💡Is The Sennheiser HD6XX OVERRATED?

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[@josepedro6451]

Happy New year Stu!. I hope that you are doing well. I guess that you know that rtings.com issued recently the results of the tests of the Sennheiser 6xx. www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-6xx Unsurprisingly it scores very high...but surprisingly the results are different from the HD650, concluding that they are not exactly the same Headphones. So once more it was proved that you are a pioneer, my friend!. You were the only one among all reviewers who always said that the sound profile of the 6xxs was not identical to the HD650 :-). I also wanted to share with you that I finally decided to step ahead and bought a tube amplifier (Feliks Echo) to use with the 6xxs. It is a high quality amplifier, hand-made in Europe (but still not very expensive). The Echo together with the Arcam rDAC have brought the 6xxs to another level. This combo adds detail and clarity and punchiness to the bass, and overall gives more depth and richness to the sound. The 6xxs have turned from being vocal-focused headphones into all-rounders where everything that you throw at them sounds really wonderful. I think I hit the jackpot and reached my end game. Best regards and keep on with the good work!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

WOWW. That's really quite a surprise, said me, never. Haha yeah man, a lot of people argued with me about that over the last couple of years and got pretty mad about it. To me, the 650 was warmer and more laid back while the 6XX sounded snappier and livelier. I thought that was pretty obvious. I always thought the 6XX was a perfect balance between the too forward 600 and the too syrupy 650 (hence why I recommend it first for every budding audiophile starting out). homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/ I've always said that in videos and articles. Thank you so much for acknowledging this and what an amazing compliment! I may make another video going over this as sort of an updated A/B comparison and also throw in the 58X since I'm purchasing it for the giveaway. So yeah, let the Memento memes commence "DON'T BELIEVE THEIR LIES" 😂 That's so great man! I too am trying to get an Amp for the studio to call my own, similar to what you have. Perhaps I should try it out!

[@SLUMSON]

Right on.. also saw another video with posted graphs of the frequency responses. Any input on the PreSonus Studio 68c ? Looking into this for a silent studio I have set up with iMac, Akai MPC Live, and headphones.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! I haven't had any experience with that joint. Looks dope, though. I have it up here in a browser tab. I'm pretty close to being decided on the Motu M2 myself for the updated studio. I had a Scarlett 2i2 first gen for a long time before having to sell it (various reasons). I have a pic here of things so far: homestudiobasics.com/intro-setup/ What mic are you rockin'? I also had to sell my LSR305's but I was researching and I keep coming back to them, lol. I may get the Yamaha HS7 but they are pretty steep for me at the moment. Any other suggestions?

[@SLUMSON]

@@HomeStudioBasics I've used the Blue Microphones BlueBird since it came out... like 20 fuckin years ago. Not sure I could recommend it as Ive never used anything else for comparison. But it works for me. Ill check out that Motu M2... you check out the PreSonus Studio 68c. I believe in your reviews. Keep up the good work! We are watching.

[@arthurcrosby5755]

Hi Stu. Thanks for your review. There’s no doubt that the HD6XX are good value for money. They do seem to please for their good middle frequency response and listener comfort too. However it seems that the sound stage is at best narrow and lacking in depth, from what I’ve read. Is this fair comment? Do any of the Sennheisers have a good sound stage? Maybe the amplifier makes a difference in this regard. Does anyone have any experience to share on this topic?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey Arthur! Yeah the Soundstage on the 600 isn't that great but most people knew that. The 650 did actually improve on it a bit, as I really enjoyed it for gaming and movies and was surprised how well it worked. Sounds were spaced out better and imaging was improved. Also mentioned this in the video! I found that a couple of amplifiers did help the 600's out: iFi's xCAN and xDSD both have the 3D+ feature which opened things up pretty nicely. I could actually listen to and enjoy Jazz after that. The other amp is the G6, which has the Scout Mode feature and SBX. These modes also help SS and imaging.

[@katsudonSaikou]

The only headphone reviewer I really trust. Honestly hearing you say it's the best single headphone to have is reassuring! Super glad I sent the Grados back in favor for these. I just hope my Fiio BTRK5 is enough to power these.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

I'm right and everyone else is wrong! haha jk. thanks man. Really nice to get nice comments on videos like these lol 😂

[@Farpun]

Hey mate, just wondering how your grandchildren are going?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha they're doing fantastic!! Thanks for asking Farpun! One of them tried to get the toy out of the cereal box this morning and the cereal exploded all over the floor. You can imagine how happy I was about it XD

[@gazzabazzazza]

@@HomeStudioBasics presumably you poured milk onto it and told the kid "there's your breakfast - most people use bowls but different strokes..."

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@gazzabazzazza XD Way back in the day I actually did that to my grandpa and he totally lost his cool with me (and for good reason). The funniest part was that he explicitly told me not to go for the toy and I did it anyway. Cereal. Everywhere.

[@chadk2790]

Video was I wanted but subscribed because the outro rap was what I needed xD. The cadence reminds me a lot of Benefit .

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha thank you so much man! What's benefit? I love rapping!

[@chadk2790]

You’re welcome brother 👏 benefit is an underground dude that got big during the Napster days in the early 2000s

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@chadk2790 Yeah man I miss those days. I was just thinking about Napster the other day because my dad moved out of the house that I grew up in (long story) and I remember way back, when we first moved in around November of 2000 and Napster was big. I was just about to turn 14 in December of that year. He set up a computer and desk for me in the bonus room and I used to play files on that all day. Such great memories. I think it was an old Hewlett Packard Tower with one of those bulky a** monitors lol. Remember Limewire, Kazaa, and Morpheus too?

[@chadk2790]

Yeah fasho, every time I got a new computer I ruined it in like two weeks with porn & limewire 😂

[@HomeStudioBasics]

HAHAHA! Yeah man. I remember back when my best friends brother had it on the PC and we watched it. Kind of weird to say but we didn't wank together or anything Lmao. Oh man that's kinda funny if you read it outloud. XD

[@intoitreviews]

Looked like you had fun with this one. Way to dredge up a conspiracy! Also are you saying I can't have 20+ headphones? Have you been conspiring with my wife? Also, bro we gotta talk about that top 5 list... I keep delaying my top 5 vid, but maybe you've motivated me to get it out. Keep up the good work!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks bro! Yeah when I started laughing and couldn't stop that wasn't planned or anything I just lost it XD Yeah that will be coming at some point for sure! Just don't really know when. I'd like to get my hands on a couple in the list so I can have them all here for the video.

[@intoitreviews]

@@HomeStudioBasics would love to coordinate, because it looks like we have different recommendations. Would be helpful for peeps to get different takes on it I think.

[@322wongamos]

I am using the k550 currently, is this a significant upgrade in comparison? And if I buy this with the atom, can I just connect it to a pc without purchasing another dac?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey there! It's just a different type of sound. The K550 is more open and airy sounding (as you know), with a pretty above average Soundstage, especially for a closed back. The 6XX is more boxed in sounding, but still has better SS than the HD600. Both the 550 and 6XX are incredibly neutral headphones. I'll never turn someone away from trying an HD6XX though, as it's still my #1 recommendation in the hobby. Check out my article, it may help you pull the trigger on one. homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/ I firmly believe it's worth it for everyone to have a 600 series model in their possession. I've had an HD600 since 2016 and don't plan on ever selling it if that's any indication. Let me know your thoughts and if I can help out further :)

[@kimbersaw]

#WantToAsk I had v-moda m100 as daily device... a week ago I decided to buy openback headphones for my second device, after do some research the choice is between 6xx & sundara, and because I already have dynamic driver headphones so I decided to buy Sundara, of course I'm at blind buy by assuming Sundara would be better than 6xx ... am I in the right choice?

[@kimbersaw]

The sundara itself is on the way coming so I don't try it yet...

[@gazzabazzazza]

I'm sure the 6xx and planars will sound different. I've heard anecdotally that there are serious quality control issues with hifiman products. Stu has done several hifiman reviews. He likes them I believe (he was going on about I believe how planars really allow you to hear the timbre of instruments). I was initially keen on getting some planars for the experience. I was very interested in the Sundaras. A friend had some planar IEMs (from audeze, who make stuff like the LCD-1, which some people love e.g. metal571). In a brief, completely superficial audition I thought my friend's IEMs sounded sterile. Planars are to my understanding fast, precise and detailed. Be caution about the earcup shape of the hifiman products (circular). I don't like feeling my ears touching the inside of ear cups or the headphone etc.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey!! I think you made a great choice. The Sundara is my second pick on the Top 5: homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/ HiFiMan headphones are really hard to talk about though, because it's a bit Jekyll and Hyde. The only reason it's second and not first is because of what Gary alluded to; the fact that you really never know what you're going to get with one as far as build quality. You could theoretically luck out and never have any issues with your Sundara (and I hope you don't). You may have an issue with the terminations into the ear cups and the sound sometimes cutting out. I really hope they fix this moving forward. It may not manifest in all models and really depends. The Sundara overall is an extremely well built product though for the most part. They did make it a lot more robust than the older model 400i and 400S, but this time around the cups don't swivel. You may not even care about that. It was just a design choice. As far as sound, yeah, the Sundara has better bass extension, better Soundstage, and just generally sounds better because it is a planar magnetic headphone. They tend to perform better than dynamics like the 6XX because the sound is more realistic, more natural, and there's better instrument Timbre across the board (how an instrument may sound in real life vs. through a device). Comfort is also very good. I prefer a 6XX but it's kind of a toss up. You'll likely be very satisfied with how they fit and feel on your head. Also keep in mind what Gary said: The shape of them is a bit awkward and depending on the size of your ears you'll find them touching. I don't mind it too much as the pads are super comfy, but your mileage may vary. Do you have an amp to power them? Let me know!!

[@kimbersaw]

Thank you for your responses, Uhm I had ifi micro black label to be used to my devices... I thought this dac amp is had enough power to drive sundara, and yeah sir I do research in your chanel and your website too, even I don’t understand english very well at least I knew you are talk a lot about good things about this headphone, and the reason why I chosed and assuming this is good headphone for me is Yeah because you said so.... haha no just kidding I just curious about the planar’s sound because all this time I've only heard dynamic driver headphone so I want something new in my life and I need something ‘beautiful’ like sundara.. so thanks about your responses maybe someday I will ask you about your grandchildren. #sorryformyenglish

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@kimbersaw Haha no worries! Are you THE Kalinka Fox? Lol. What did you decide? Love the Black Label.

[@xoselet]

Stu , about sound signature, between hd6xx and philips fidelio x2hr, are similar or can be complementary?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man def complimentary headphones. :)

[@philipsills5298]

Just received mine a week ago from Drop. Cost me an additional 70 Dollars in import taxes grrr...UK buyers beware. Bought a balanced cable from amazon and feel they are driven better through it. Initially I was unimpressed by the sound going from the AKG702/7xx's and the fidelio X2HRs plus the clamping force was ridiculous but after a little headband adjustment and gentle EQ Ive been chilling reading a book listening to music with these for the last few evenings and they are really growing on me. There is something about them I cannot put my finger on but they sound premium. They are not as aggressive as the Fidelios or wide as the the K7**'s but they are in their own right great sounding. Glad I listened to your recommendation and got some. Now just for a pair of HifiMan Sundaro's and Beyers (I am torn between 880 and 990 edition currently) and my collection of top 5 is complete! Guns N' roses Sound awesome through them!!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah man! My pleasure and so glad to help out. What you're hearing is that they're just "right." There's really no other way to describe the sound of a 6XX/600 series headphone. It's sound in it's most pure and correct form. Nothing more nothing less. I have the K702's because of that very reason; sometimes I want a wider Soundstage and a bit more air for Jazz and other quieter Genres (Acoustic guitars sound incredible with a 702), but also gaming and Netflix. I also have a 9500 because well, price to performance ratio is through the roof and I bought one in 2017 so I've had it awhile. I'd really like to get my hands on an X2HR for comparison to the 9500 actually. Hey did you happen to purchase a 6XX through one of my links? If not that's okay but if so thank you so much! I'd be eternally grateful if you did the same when you eventually get the Sundara. You're really going to love that one as well as there's nothing quite like a planar magnetic. Hmm.. If you prefer a more neutral sound I'd probably steer you towards the 880. 990 is kind of a bass head can with a super bright treble but to be fair the 880 is relatively bright also. I'd say it's like the semi-open version of the Sony MDR V6, perhaps a bit of an upgrade even. What do you think?

[@WakeUpB2P]

Hi, i know you got lot of question here but if i may ask do you think the 6xx will be good paired with a JDS Element II Dac/Amp ?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah man I'd say go for it! Check out DMS' review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXOal2VnjLiMsKs Let me know what you think.. My favorite is 6XX with the ATOM or Objective 2 specifically. I also have demoed the Element first version and liked it as well.

[@WakeUpB2P]

@@HomeStudioBasics Yeah i'll comeback to you when i'll get it & tell you how good it is :)

[@Youtubings335]

I entered the headphone scene with the 6XX as my first purchase and I honestly think you cannot overstate the class of these cans. I made every bang-for-buck decision along the way and right now I'm powering them with the JDS atom with a FiiO K3 as DAC (looking to upgrade, would love a suggestion). I don't like throwing around the term 'endgame', especially with my lacking experience, but I would honestly find it hard to believe it gets much better than this without throwing some serious cash into diminishing returns. Great vid as always loverboy, fuck Mr Metal

[@HomeStudioBasics]

No no no! We love metal. I was just poking some fun at him :D ;) :) You're totally right though, it's hard to justify purchasing much more than the set up you mention. I think audiophiles get jaded real quick and then decide "Well there must be something better." In reality, it doesn't get that much better. Not enough to warrant the wank fest we're currently seeing in audio. You know who I'm talking about - those lame reviewers who get hundreds of thousands of views while shilling products that maybe make like a .01% difference. They fancy their titles and thumbnails up and make it irresistible to the unassuming guy. They even use.. ARROWS. Lol. THIS DAC IS THE DEAL. OF. THE. CENTURY. Arrow arrow arrow arrow. XD That is, until the next one. :P The problem is that it's never enough. I'm perfectly satisfied with what I have now so it's that much more of a blast to make fun of shills and people who make such bold claims when, in reality, you're still forking over your kidney for like a .05% increase in pleasure. Suggestions for an upgrade? Lol. Well lemme tell you man, if you just spend like $500 more I think you'll finally be happy. Just a little more man. I know you can do it. It's not that big of a deal (no pun intended). Don't look at it like flushing money down a toilet. Just think how it will make you feel. Ha seriously though.. I don't know what's better than that. Maybe a Mojo? In reality, the Mojo is like the only exception past $100-300 that I would even consider is an actual upgrade in terms of sound. Diminishing returns tends to kick in way faster with Amps and DACs, and I'm dead serious when I say that they're completely and entirely overrated. I don't care. It's all so stupid. Since when did a DAC become more important than how the song was recorded? People are now placing more value on it than the actual headphones! It's just crazy and I will keep saying it over and over again. It comes to a point where you actually want to start pissing people off. Sorry for the rant. :D

[@autofocus4556]

Can you use them with a Scarlett 2i2 or do you need an amp as well? I was reading some of your articles. Good info.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man thank you! I haven't actually used these with the 2i2, but I used to have a first generation and I actually really liked it with the headphones I had at the time (Audio Technica M50). It does have a bit of a higher output impedance, (specs indication less than 10) which actually may do pretty well with these! I remember plugging in my HD600's and the 2i2 def gave off a warmer tone. If it's your first foray into Amps and DACS, I may recommend you a neutral solid state, but there's nothing wrong with purchasing the 6XX sand trying it with the 2i2 if you already have one lying around. What do you think? Did you happen to see this article? I think it will really help: homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/

[@autofocus4556]

Home Studio Basics Do you have any experience with the JDS el stack 2 or Element 2? I read your recommendation for the JBL MKII monitors and figured one of those would work well for switching between the JBL’s and the HD6XX. Also, if I’m not recording anything, would the Dac/Amp set up be better for mixing in a DAW as well as casual listening and just get a Scarlett down the line for field recordings or vocals? Lastly, ever listen to Ellington Indigos? Cheers.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hmm haven't heard the Stack 2 or Element 2. I reached out to JDS again but no response yet. Not sure if they're busy or nah. XD I have heard the original Element though and yeah, great option for what you're looking for. The 2 would be the same as far as that goes. Yeah no reason to get a Scarlett now if your goal is mix down/master. I don't have a 2i2 anymore but I just mix beats on what I have here. I will be getting a Solo 3rd gen or 2i2 soon though, for rapping and recording guitar :)

[@autofocus4556]

Home Studio Basics thanks for the info.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@autofocus4556 Yeah man! Keep me posted for sure.

[@cnoevo99]

Hd6xx vs DT 177x Go....which has better sound for gaming and music ? Could I drive them well with a sound blasterx G6?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah the blaster will be fine for either as it has a lot of power. Check my video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH60epyCh82Jb8k As for the 177X Go, I'd consult inToit Reviews on that one as he has the headphone I believe and could give you a much better comparison. Tell him I sent you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioWQqIydjbdmb7M

[@Pirxel]

I have them, and I agree the sound is pretty much perfect, but I'd also say they are the only headphones you need only if you live alone or can lock yourself in a room, the open back is great but if you live with anyone it just doesn't work - too much sound comes out and goes in. If I was forced to have just one headphone for sure it would be a closed back that I could also take with me when going to work and the 6XX for sure doesn't check many boxes here.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! What closed backs do you like?

[@aariq2791]

Hello Stu! Before I make up my mind to save for the sennheiser hd 650 and a dac amp ifizen/k5 pro/g6 please let me know if these songs will fit the hd 650 good or best:- 1) Tears for fears-everybody wants to rule the world. 2) The weekend-blinding light 3) Counting stars one Republic 4) Lindsey Stirling crystallize or Artemus dubstep violine. If you don't have the time to check all these please check 1 & 2. I generally tend to like a warm and smooth sound without piercing highs. Do you think it'll be a good buy?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Good buy? YES. I don't have the 650 right now with me though. Number 1 is one of my favorite songs ever. That whole album actually.

[@antoinep9733]

Shadmaan Aariq 6XX is great for Lindsey Stirling, although you don’t get the full impact of those electronic bass beats. Violin can be murderous on brighter or treble-spiked earphones/headphones.

[@aariq2791]

@@HomeStudioBasics Hey man thanks, no 1 is also my favourite song. Also listening to dark side of the moon and I like it. You suggested that album in your written review (top 5 audiophile headphones). I guess I'm saving for sennheiser hd 650 now, I'm sad that hd6xx isn't shipped to my country ☹️.

[@aariq2791]

@@antoinep9733 Hey there, thanks for replying. Do you think I'll be able to get at least 70% impact for modern songs like weekend blinding lights or Lindsey Stirling dubstep after applying EQ (Bass Boost)?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@aariq2791 Yeah bro, 650 is fine too. To me it's a bit warmer and more smoothed over than even the 6XX. Where are you located?

[@Alex-underground]

Nice video, thanks for your view. I also thought about all those viewed headphones a lot lately, I think there is not much difference between the sennheiser and for example the well known beyerdynamic and audio technica line. for me they are all sort of same quality headphones. I think it is more about taste ====your taste==== not audio quality. yeah i also was always talking about quality . but i think we have to think more about taste. Your humor is nice,nice if you keep it this way, i enjoyed it

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks so much man! Always great to hear from you in emails. Hey is that you in your profile pic? Haha sup cat! Nah but yeah you're right about taste but are you referring to flavor of the sound profiles between cans?

[@Alex-underground]

@@HomeStudioBasics You are welcome man, Hmmm your question about soundprofiles. i think it is just about the image of all those headphonescompanies.. How v shaped a headphone is, is just the brand image. every brand want an image of course..Like beats dr dre a trash quality headphone of course, we people with knowledge of studio headphones know,. with cheap parts selling expensive because it is a dr dre headphone bla bla bla. Commerical attractive for people with no knowledge about quality just being the popular guy or girl no more no less. Being in our water : the quality headphones (studio headphones the real thing), so see the v shape in this message, the color of the sound. yeah man i enjoy to sent you emails, i enjoy getting them back too. thanks man

[@blax100dk]

Will this or HD 560S be good for gaming? I really want to be immersed in games and movies and of course music too, or is the sound to boring for entertainment? Edit: and will the creative Soundblaster G6 be good enough sound quality wise for these headsets and driving them? Edit: have choosen the 9500 instead as you say they are good for gaming thanks!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man Haven't heard 560S but likely yes if it's anything like the 599 or 598. HD6XX/650 actually have pretty decent Soundstage (better than the 600 anyway), but I'm not sure I'd use it full time for gaming. 6XX's sound is just so pure. I love it for pretty much everything. Yes the G6 is perfect for them. Oh just saw your last sentence haha. Have you received them yet?

[@blax100dk]

@@HomeStudioBasics Yes sorry for the very late answere I didn't get a notice. They are amazing the best headphones I have ever heard (Its my first hifi headphone, the rest are gaming headsets that are even more expensive) and with plenty of bass. Though in some games I think the sound can be a bit to bright but for the money they are amazing. I use them with the dragonfly red the g6 was for my little brother and + a philips 9500 too. And they are great for movies too. If I where to upgrade are there better headphones that still would work for gaming and movies too? I am thinking of upgrading my dac too because I don't think the dragonfly red is good enough for my dali rubicon 2 speakers but maybe I am wrong. Thinking of the burson playmate 2. For both the speakers and the headphones. Edit also have philips modified the 9500 to and s version or something? Is my pair from 2021 different from yours from 2017 or was it 2019? I think it may be a misplaced 9600 review on the 9500 amazone page.

[@blax100dk]

@@HomeStudioBasics Got the burson not only did it make my speakers sound much better, the philips got a better sound too. But my speakers needed it even more so, amazing how good these headphones for the money, though i want to hear what a more expensive headphones does differnetly. As my speakers are now better sound wise than the headphones, but the headphones are more analytical.

[@noah4087]

i bought the fiio k5 pro. i think im just gonna get these 6xx but ive had trouble deciding between these or the hifiman sundaras. any opinions help a lot thank you

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Gosh that's tough, man! You're in the right place though. Check this article out as I go into great depth: homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/ Let me know what you think and we'll go from there.

[@noah4087]

@@HomeStudioBasics so i have the philips 9500 and i just bought the dt 880 600 ohm instead of the 6xx. but now i want a more lively warm headphone for music. i was thinking either the sundaras or the he5xx from drop. im a pretty new audio file and im thinking i would really like either the sundaras but kind of want to save some cash and i feel like the he5xx sounds similar.

[@noah4087]

@@HomeStudioBasics but if sundaras are all around better i want to shell out a bit more for them

[@jiajiacai2417]

Hi, it may be a dumb question, but I really want to know it's better to have a DAC if I use JDS AMP? Can I use these with my Android phone? Or only on PC?😅

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey there! Not a dumb question actually. You could actually use your phone's dac into a JDS amp like the ATOM via 3.5mm interconnect. I suppose it would depend on how good the dac is on your phone though. What kind of phone is it? And yeah you can use the 6XX with your phone but I would personally not just plug it into mine as there likely won't be enough power to drive it loud enough. I'd also just plan on getting a DAC + Amp or a dac/amp combo all at once because it will save you headaches down the road. It's just good practice to pair a good dac with a good amp. Yo dog I heard you liek amp dacs XD

[@jiajiacai2417]

@@HomeStudioBasics Thank you! I assumed pixel 4 is fine? or buy JDS DAC instead

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@jiajiacai2417 It's hard to say man. I did a bit of research yesterday and I couldn't decide one way or another. Maybe just try the Pixel first with the Amp and see what it sounds like. Let me know for sure!

[@jiajiacai2417]

@@HomeStudioBasics hahaha, sure.

[@maltesefails9199]

What do you think about the 58x jubilee? Are the 6xx better than the 58x ? Also i love your sense of humor and the movie clips ahhaha

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! Haha thank you! XD Haven't heard the 58X but will be getting one very soon! I heard it was a bit grainier, and has more bass but take that with a grain of salt. Are you considering the 6XX? Can't go wrong with it. It's still my top recommendation in the hobby. Check out this article and let me know what you think: homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/

[@maltesefails9199]

@@HomeStudioBasics eyy your amazing you actually commented back. I have the 58x and people say that its a smoother version of the hd600 because it had more bass and less treble (only a bit). However i would love it if you could make a video about it. Finally, do you think the fiio k3 would be a good pair with the hd58x? Thanks

[@HomeStudioBasics]

My pleasure man! I think 58X is 150 Ohm correct? If so you'll probably be fine. HD600 with K3 is pushing it. Works, but I hardly ever pair them because I'm mostly maxing out with little headroom on high gain. If you go balanced with the 58X, you'll be more than fine. In fact, I keep the K3 around because I do plan on getting some balanced cables for my HD600. 4.4mm and 2.5 :)

[@adrianmorrish8494]

Ordered my 6xx yesterday on Drop, it may ship on June 4th, and arrive in the UK sometime, just ordered a balanced cable (Ali express) just to try out as I have balanced on my btr5 and my ifi hipdac and want to try on both just to see what scaling sounds like

[@adrianmorrish8494]

The balanced cable you linked too sadly wasn't available at the moment on amazon us or uk

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Keep me posted!!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah I'll have to look into that, thank you!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hmm. Just checked and it's available! Oh well.

[@adrianmorrish8494]

@@HomeStudioBasics haven't hit order button yet cable is still in. my basket, so not too late. So if I use the link you posted it should work this time? What's the name of manufacturer I can search for it then if problems

[@HomeStudioBasics]

EEEEEHAAAAWEEEEEWWJKWJREkAAAAAAAAAAAWAAAAAA/I don't WANNA audio anymore! - 0:54 Yeah well I've demoed 500 - 1:29 I'm Sorry But This Is Just So, Asinine - 2:00 Build/Cables/Termination - 3:30 Shut Up And Stop Telling Me What To Do - 5:40 They're LYING - 5:51 He's Kind Of A Snob And Kind Of A Nerd So, I'm Not Going To Listen To Anything He Says - 6:43 Genre - 9:00 Amplification - 10:57 Final Word - 11:59 Twerk/Rap - 12:16 Yum Yum Sauce Good You LIKE!! - 13:39

[@1badMucker]

I own the 580 Precision. The sound falls between the 600 and 650. If you ever get the chance to listen to a pair I think you may enjoy the sound.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Wait do you have the original 580? I would love to try that one actually. Also want to compare the 58X to the rest.

[@diamondhellspawnscorpion]

Home Studio Basics are the 58x & 6xx similar soundwise?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@diamondhellspawnscorpion From what I've heard the 58X has more bass but comes across as grainier but I really want to try it for myself.

[@Martinullis]

Hi mister Home studio basics, I’m looking to buy a portable dac amp for my hd 6xx’s. For me the hip dac, the nx4dsd and the dragonfly red would be the same price. The things I’m most looking for are clarity, all around. I listen to jazz, classical, some beatles and some electronic music by Röyksopp (happy up here for example). I feel when I plug it into my laptop and phone, especially the low end gets muddy. This is most prominent in the jazz I listen to as it is quite busy and things get ‘dumped together’. What would be your (or any knowledgable viewer) reccomendation? Would love to hear from you!:)

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! Definitely NX4 as it's the cleanest and most crisp. Very neutral. The DF Red is my second choice followed by hip. Hip is pretty warm, DF Red is crisp and open but the NX4 is the most neutral out of these. :) Hope that helps! What kind of Jazz do you enjoy?

[@Martinullis]

Home Studio Basics hi! Thanks a lot for the reply :) The jazz I listen to ranges from Stan Getz to Ben webster, Miles Davis and Bill evans, that kinda jazz. The only thing that scares me away from the nx4 is seeing a lot of comments saying it falls apart on them within a couple of months, but the features look so nice!

[@Martinullis]

Home Studio Basics does the warmth of the hip dac take away from the detail and clarity in the hd600 line though, if not I like the way it looks and the availablity of it.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@Martinullis Yeah tbh I've heard a little about the build but maybe that's from Drop? Idk. The model I got from my friend is really well built. I love all those guys!!! Bill Evans my God he was incredible on that piano right? His ending composition on "Blue in Green" brings me to tears pretty much every time I listen to it. That song just does something to me man.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@Martinullis Nah man not in my opinion anyway. I will give it another listen tonight when I get home and give you some fresh impressions though. Sit tight!

[@viniciusmiguel3599]

Dude your sense of humor is like weir... i mean good!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Oh it totally is weird and just... yeah lol. I don't even know. I love KZbin because it's a great outlet to vent all of my strange quirks and allows me to be free like Tommy Pickles. pbs.twimg.com/media/D48pNcSW0AcUYvV.jpg

[@viniciusmiguel3599]

@@HomeStudioBasics Keep up the good work ma man! That`s why the traditional TV is dying day by day. Just be youg wild and free. Cheers from Brazil.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@viniciusmiguel3599 I don't care what anyone says Chuckie. Nakey is good. Nakey is free. Nakey is.. Nakey!! Thanks for the love man. ❤ much appreciated. Did you see the g6 vid?

[@viniciusmiguel3599]

@@HomeStudioBasics Yup i watched the g6 vid, and i'm in a big dilemma between the g6, k5pro and zen to pair with my future 6xx ... i mean, i like the g6 because of its features, but i want good sound ya know?, a person who owns the g6 told me that it sounds awful compared to the k5pro(zeos from z review also said it in his live stream). But i've seem lots of people saying that the g6 sounds almost as good as the k5pro... The zen seems to be the best choise, but its soo hard for me to import one. The point is. Does the g6 sounds close, or as good as the k5 pro or zen?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@viniciusmiguel3599 Lol who ever said the G6 sounds awful compared to the K5 Pro has no idea what they're talking about lmao. I'm sorry but that's just asinine. I went back and forth in depth with the G6 and compared it to like 6 dacs. The differences are extremeellllyy minuscule from product to product. I swear man this dac obsession is getting so stupid it makes me want to scream. It's elitist bull sh** , and/or a bias against Creative and nothing more. But, still, that's just my opinion man XD So to answer your question, yes. The K5 Pro and G6 sound really really similar. G6 vs. Zen? Again, very similar. I mentioned both in the G6 video and time stamped them. Did you see that part? I don't have anything against Z, but most people will tell you to take his opinions with a grain of salt. I can't speak to that. It's just what I've heard from many people. Anyways, I'm actually going to be doing a shootout of the G6, K5 Pro, Audioengine D1 and Mojo as like a gaming shootout (as they all have optical in). Maybe I'll add a quick sound comparison to the Zen in there too! Do you run Tidal?

[@antoinep9733]

A touch more low-end would be nice, but yeah, still a favourite.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

True.

[@RATsnak3]

the 58x apperently has more low end and theyre cheaper.

[@swilkins1984]

I feel like it is the headphone I can recommend to anyone looking for an open-back and every audiophile should own or at least hear one. There are more detailed headphones but you'll be hard pressed to find a more pleasing, accurate sound and broken in it might be the comfort GOAT. It is not the best but it checks every box and is dirt cheap for an audiophile headphone.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yes! That's exactly what I'm saying. There are always going to be people who will argue but those guys aren't the average newcomer looking for pretty much 95% of what the hobby is about. Thank you for this I think I'll pin it for new people who stumble across this vid. Do you have a 6XX?

[@swilkins1984]

@@HomeStudioBasics Basically. I have a 650.

[@seanisaacdelapena3533]

i have the 6xx and I'm not sure if i need an amp. My motherboard can get the headphone to deafening volume, does that mean my motherboard is powering the headphone just fine or do I still need an amp?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man!! Looks like volume is good. How does it sound to you? Clear? Crisp? Not muffled? Let me know!!

[@seanisaacdelapena3533]

@@HomeStudioBasics i can only compare it to a $50 headset and i would say the 6xx sounds normal to me, if that makes sense. What I'm trying to say is that, it wasn't as game changing to me as I expected.

[@sofreshsonu6748]

Thanks for the review goat 🐐

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha thanks man! You looking to get a 6XX?

[@sofreshsonu6748]

@@HomeStudioBasics yessir had a few back in forths with you on ig and it helped make my decision..just supporting

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks mate!

[@tolgacetintas8771]

Hey, i love watching your videos and getting information. Have a equalizer setting for Samson SR850 ? Thanks.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thank you so much Tolga! Nah but I'd just EQ down 9-10k lol. Other than that the headphone is great. Maybe 4-5dB?

[@tolgacetintas8771]

@@HomeStudioBasics Thank you again for answering to me. I made a setting using equalizerAPO but something is wrong. 2.5khz down 2.5db, 4.6khz boost 3db, 8khz down 4db, 9khz down 4.5db and 10khz down 4.5db. I don't use quality adjustments. I use the headphone mostly for gaming (Competitive). some sounds are crushed under big sounds. i can't hear the details (sneaky footsteps, reload sound and other important details etc.) BTW, i use sound card (soundblaster z) with this headphones.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@tolgacetintas8771 The most interesting thing about the 850 is that I never thought they were sibilant with movies or gaming haha. Maybe keep 8, 9, and 10k about the same? I find that it helps a lot with detail retrieval though I have never played competitively with an 850. Only single player. Let me know how it goes!

[@6643bear]

Hi , I have 6xx with custom cans bass mod , does improve bass at the lower end , regards mark

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Idk i don't have that mod.

[@6643bear]

Ok , there’s something to look at possibly. Regards mark

[@franksam8610]

I started with the jubilee cause I was new and was not sure what to buy.. since every KZbinr had they’re opinions on every other headphone.. now I have 2 new ones first the elear when it went on a big sale and now the z7m2

[@HomeStudioBasics]

NIce!

[@Mawin268]

Do you think HD6xx is a good step up from shp 9500?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Well that's an interesting can of worms lol. I've caught some heat on this channel for my love affair with the 9500, but it's mostly fun to just annoy people because they get so butt hurt about it. It's definitely an interesting comparison though my friend. As an upgrade? I don't know. That's a really tough question actually. Soundstage is definitely better on the 9500. Bass is lean on the 9500 but still sounds really good. I think it rolls off a bit harder than the 6XX. The mids on he 6XX are def better than they were on the 600. The upper mid/low treble area has always been the point of contention on the 9500 and yeah, it can be a bit essy but I have always thought that sentiment was way overblown, esp. when you can just EQ it down a couple dB or use an amp with a bit higher output impedance. Just my opinion, people got mad. The treble on the 9500 is definitely brighter than a 6XX. As a true upgrade? It's hard to say. The 9500 for it's price is just an absolute steal, but they're basically also giving away the 6XX at this point. I like having both around (I have the 600), but I would say that yeah, I tend to listen to my 600 more often than I do a 9500 although recently the 9500 reminded me yet again of why it's so good. See why this is so hard? Lol. Hey check out my comparison I did awhile back, it may help also: homestudiobasics.com/sennheiser-hd600-vs-philips-shp9500-the-final-showdown/ Let me know what you think!!

[@darensweeney5925]

I agree with you about having 900 different types of headphones. I have a 6XX, and my only problem is that it squeezes my noggin' like a vice. I also have an AKG240 as a semiclosed option with a very very comfortable headband. And I have a Sony noise-cancelling headphone. That's all you need, really, IMHO.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah man! I have a K702, K612, 9500 and HD600. I suppose maybe I could use a closed back but I don't really care that much lol. Only reason i have K612 is because I'm planning on doing a huge shootout of the K600/700 series. I really loved the 240 though. One of the best sounding headphones I've ever heard and that's why there's not much reason to splurge much past that price point. I actually love the tighter clamp of the 600 because it makes me feel like I'm receiving a warm hug XD

[@darensweeney5925]

@@HomeStudioBasics Hey, my 240s just broke. (I think maybe the something needs to be soldered--something i don't know how to do.) Are the K701s, 702s, etc., much better than the 240s as a replacement? They all have that "hammock" headband that are sooooooooooooooooooo comfortable. Other companies with these headbands are much more expensive and, my bet, surpass that point of diminishing returns. Cheers.)

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@darensweeney5925 Yeah bro! Love the K702. Have one here for gaming, movies, jazz, etc. Comfort level is going to be a huge step up from the 240. It's funny to me though; listening to a 240 was one of the most memorable experiences I've ever had with a headphone though I had the K240M 600 Ohm Austrian model. I've also owned the 240S Chinese model. It's hard to beat that sound (600 Ohm version). I was floored. To be honest, I can't really say whether or not the 702 would be a true upgrade from a 240 and I don't say that lightly. The 240 is a special headphone for sure. You're still going to love a 702 if you decide on it though. 240 places more emphasis on around 5k I believe and it's just really unique but works so incredibly well with older rock and classic R&B (Smokey Robinson, Temptations, etc.)

[@metal571]

No I think you're probably right, as there was an OEM pad change when the 660 came out iirc while the 6XX uses the older OEM pads? So it depends. The two sounded just about identical to me when I had them side by side, but who knows. I wasn't sure if it was the same either, but oratory is 100 percent convinced aside from the pads that all internals are identical to a 650 PS y'all be spittin fire PPS review the LCD-1

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! Haha thanks :) For whatever reason I felt like the 6XX was a bit crisper than the 650. I have no idea why. Would love to demo a 660. I def don't doubt that the internals are the same. I feel like the 650 is so smooth and warm that it can almost be a detriment at times, while the 6XX reminded me more of the 600's crisp character but without the annoying mids. Plus it's way cheaper so I would almost never recommend a 600/650 to people nowadays when they can spend a fraction and get the 6XX. I spent over $300 for my 600 plus the cost of a Magni/Modi back in 2016 but times have def changed. I got to demo the LCD-1 at Audio Advice but it was only for a few minutes. My impressions were: Flatter than a freakin' pancake lol. I have a pic on my phone. Def going to review that though here soon!

[@metal571]

@@HomeStudioBasics make sure you try the LCD-1 with the Reveal EQ. It's free and plugs into APO as a VST. Helps bring it essentially perfectly in line with the Audeze house sound. I don't agree with all of their presets, but for LCD-1 the midrange and treble adjustments appear to be highly influenced by my initial by-ear EQ profile for my now infamous review. Sundara is still better overall but, need an amp for that

[@gazzabazzazza]

@@metal571 but the sundara's like only 37ohm?

[@aariq2791]

@@gazzabazzazza sensitivity level(SPL) is about 93db or less which means tough relatively low impedance(Ohm) it'll take more power to produce loud/enough sound. Also the sound will be less energetic with low bass impact without an amp. So amp-dac is required to get the full performance and loudness.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@gazzabazzazza It's very inefficient like Shadmaan said. Still needs some power to get loud enough.

[@aminfahmi]

What do you think about pairing 6xx with fiio k5 pro?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Great pair! Love it! Any reservations on snagging one?

[@aminfahmi]

@@HomeStudioBasics it's already on its way

[@patrickangodung1297]

Thinking of buying the 6xx but I only have a FiiO K3. Will the K3 be enough to power the 6xx?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! Meh it's really cutting it close. I would invest in something like a Zen, K5 Pro, or ATOM. Did you see my shootout? Let me know what you think! kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJauiqF7p7OSbLc Will you be running Tidal or anything over 48kHz?

[@patrickangodung1297]

@@HomeStudioBasics Oh that's too bad. I bought the K3 for it's portability because it runs on USB power. I guess HD 58x is the next best thing.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

You could do that, or you could just get an E10K since it has more power and headroom for the 6XX. But yeah, 58X and K3 would also be good. Let me know!

[@patrickangodung1297]

@@HomeStudioBasics I cancelled my order for the K3 and I'm going to buy the Schiit Hel instead. Just waiting for 6XX to become available again

[@erezaviv]

I think the 4xx is a better buy. i have both and i find the 6xx too dull and boring for my taste.

[@intoitreviews]

Most nonaudiophiles would agree with you I think... some audiophiles get caught up on the top end of the 4xx. Sheepskin pads help a bit with that though and the staging in the 4xx kills the 6xx. Different strokes for different folks though. Glad you like your 4xx! Great purchase for the $$$.

[@erezaviv]

@@intoitreviews Personally, i don't have an issue with the treble on the 4xx, in fact i really like the energy in that area and find it very engaging, even though some say its not as resolving as the 6xx. soundstage and imaging , also airiness is clearly better on the 4xx, so as comfort, for me at least.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

I would recommend the 4XX over the 6XX if not for the treble. It's just kind of unforgivable almost lol. Tends to ruin certain tracks. I will say it does outclass the 600 series aside from that. Everything is better: Timbre, Soundstage, Bass extension, etc. and it sounds more buttery smooth and organic. There's nothing quite like a planar headphone. The build of a HifiMan also tends to hold me back from recommending it because that's super important as well. You just never know what you're gonna get. Very Jekyll and Hyde. 4XX is probably the most reliable though out of the bunch (aside from the headband adjustment issue which happened on inToit's pair). Comfort I'd rather have the 6XX though I love the 400 series with the original pads or the hybrids. Sheepskin's aren't intimate enough for me. I need a warm hug and I'm not getting that with them XD.

[@intoitreviews]

@@erezaviv Hey man, your preaching the choir a bit. 4XX with sheepskin pads and a bravo ocean is great, and takes care of most of the peaks to me. But I think some people want what others say is best rather than deciding for themselves. Glad you've made your decision. Feel free to check out my review of the 4XX ;)

[@adrianavellojulio2725]

I'm here 5 months late... But I have HE4xx for more than a year an HD6XX for less than a week, but I think HD6XX wins in dynamics, in HE4xx you have an infinite soundstage but the dynamics are... Like all sounds at a very similar level (of loudness)...

[@i_i8924]

I keep going back to the Fidello X2 but that my preference

[@irun2sanaxox]

hell no they ain’t, there’s a reason why they loved like they are

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Absolutely and why I made the vid! :)

[@laowai2000]

Pretty happy to pick up an "as new" pair of these just under $130. Nicely paired wih iFi stack... Enjoy the content....love

[@HomeStudioBasics]

What a deal! Glad you're enjoying them :) and thank you! More videos coming soon.

[@laowai2000]

@@HomeStudioBasics keep it coming. one of my favorite audio channels. re-reading my old comment, no idea why it ended in love!! WTF Got to add since getting the XXs find it impossible to go back to the HD560s. XXs also sound wonderful on cheap Chinese Rod Rain Solo rip-off.

[@Sid1804.]

The 'Ya, Well" was epiccccc.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

xD

[@pegun]

How do they sound driven by jds atom vs an otl amp?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey there! ATOM is super clean sounding and a great match with the 6XX as it doesn't color the sound in any way. A Tube Amp would add some warmth. Did you have any in particular that you were thinking about?

[@pegun]

@@HomeStudioBasics no not really, it's just that when I sometimes see people saying the HD600 or HD650/6XX scales with better amplification and OTL sounds the 'best'. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@pegun Yeah as far as that goes, a Bottlehead Crack or Darkvoice 336 are great options, but there's nothing wrong with using a ruler flat solid state amp like an Objective 2 or ATOM. Solid state is a bit more reliable over the long term and will present the headphones as they are. If you think that's what you're after, I'd go that route. You can always mess with tubes later. It's great to just have a good Solid State around. That's just my opinion though. Most people start out that way and add later on. What do you think? You could also try out a hybrid tube like the Bravo Ocean. Great little amp. Check out my shootout. It will probably help you out a lot! kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJauiqF7p7OSbLc

[@herrwarmduscher5204]

6:05 One of the best movies I've seen in the last 10 years. You have to be pretty talented to write that script and direct the movie.

[@ruskie8103]

have you ever used the HD 599 SE?? I am torn between that and the HD6xx

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man nah I have not. Would like to get it here for a video but have heard the 598. The differences are likely not that significant though. 598 was good but the 6XX is going to outclass both. Where are you located and what's pricing like on the 599 SE?

[@ruskie8103]

Home Studio Basics USA. 6xx is 220 and 599 is $200

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@ruskie8103 I'd just get the 6XX man. I thought it was $195 on Drop? Just checked it. It's still worth like way more than $220 but I may wait til it goes back down to $195. For instance, I paid over $300 for my HD600 back in 2016. That pisses me off though that they raised it $25. More demand I guess. It's truly a remarkable headphone no doubt. There's really no point in getting a 599 if you can just get a 6XX and that's the main takeaway imo. Some people will tell you to get a 58X. I haven't heard that one but I've heard a lot of conflicting view points on it. Would like to get it here and settle it once and for all haheh. Let me know if you decide on the 6XX and if you purchase through my link it really helps to support the channel and blog. Keep me posted!

[@ruskie8103]

Home Studio Basics only thing that has me worried is build quality. Friend of mine said they have been known to cut corners on the Drop editions

[@arthurcrosby5755]

Has anyone tried the Sennheiser HD599 Open Back headphones? They are advertised as having “impressively natural spatial performance”. Are they referring to sound stage here maybe?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! Check Metal's review of them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foC1f5ZphrZso8U

[@gazzabazzazza]

yep - funnily enough what I've got on my head. think metal571 described them as a gateway into the audiophile rabbit hole super comfortable and sound ok, though i've tweaked the EQ using Peace i've also got hd58x - which i think i prefer (just a bit more bass extension and make the treble's a bit crisper

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@gazzabazzazza GAAAARY! I've been looking for a 58X for awhile. Would you be willing to send it for demo?

[@gazzabazzazza]

@@HomeStudioBasics please don't take offence but i'd prefer not to. I'd have to ship them intercontinentally and i do use them in parallel to the hd599. I only use the hd599 because they came with a long cable (i can't use the hd58x in bed when watching movies, etc, due to the lack of reach). I think they're good (the 58x) but what do i know. I'm not an audiophile. I don't even have a dac/amp yet :( i wanted to get the dx3 pro (due to audio science review's amazing review of them) but the v2 has an increased output impedance (10ohms) would could cause distortion on lower impedance headphones (not confirmed but theoretically). Also, there have been some concerns about topping reliability too. I honestly don't know what to get for a dac/amp. The atom's amazing (going on all the reviews) but I kinda wanted a dac and an optical in (so i could in theory cut out any USB input issues). There are so many dac amps, i just don't know what to go for. I know we've talked previously about this but i didn't rate the dragonfly red (more detail but felt it was trebly). Then there's the whole portability issue - i wanted better audio than my mobo but couldn't really find a happy medium between desktop and having something to compliment my phone output. Anyway, back to the HD58x - I know metal doesn't rate them (or at least in comparison to the hd6xx). I did deliberate about getting the hd6xx but came to the conclusion they're close enough (to the 58x) to mean it's not worth the investment. That's why i started looking at planars. I might as well go for something which breaks new territory.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@gazzabazzazza Nice! No worries man I totally get it. You probably told me you're overseas and I may have forgotten. Not sure. Optical in? Did we talk about the K5 Pro? It's def bulky and not portable at all but does have the optical in. I would say G6 but you'll just be draining your phones batt as it's bus powered. So flexible though with the line/optical in and outs. Did we talk about the hip-dac?

[@MutedNoti]

What the hell was up with that bugs bunny pic near the ending lmao

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha I accidentally imported that from a folder and was like well why not just throw it it there and act like it was an accident. xD Move along folks, nothing to see here LOL. When I watched it in playback it cracked me up so I kept it in.

[@maximianocoelho4496]

just looked it now...hella funny bro.

[@antic4312]

I finally bit the bullet and decided to get a 6XX in the latest drop. Now to rock them with the e10k until I give in and buy a Schiit stack. RIP Wallet.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Don't get a Schiit Stack. Get an Objective 2 Stack. LOL. O2 + OL DAC = Bliss. Bro, you made a great choice with the E10K though. I still use that thing and it still sounds exemplary. Let me know when you're ready to spend money! :)

[@antic4312]

​@@HomeStudioBasics Haha yeah my e10k is definitely well loved at this point. The 6XX got here finally and I'm surprised at how the e10k can drive them. Reddit / Head-Fi made it seem like they were not even going to play back music with it. After your last reply, I went on eBay and managed to snag an O2 for like $40 at an auction lol. Thinking I'll probably hook up the e10k to the O2 once it gets here, but I'll also keep an eye out for any deals on the OL DAC. Thanks for the help. :D

[@cnhhnc]

Dude, totally agree. HPs? Way too many, lol! Crazy stuff. Bought a bunch years ago. Gave up, lol! Today I Use HD600s and ATHM50, and Beyerd. DT 990s when I want more BASS.. Old school.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

I had 12 in 2019 sold most of 'em. Now I have 13 more. It's disgusting. I want to blame the fact that I review gear 😂

[@ROCKSTAR3291]

It doesn't get much better after the 6xx, in fact it's quite difficult and expensive to find a true upgrade. I've owned much more expensive headphones like the Arya and Clear, while I did get more clarity and bass extension, they were not smooth and natural.

[@SLUMSON]

Not overrated.. different. Natural, present, clear, balanced. Low pressure (open back) with good bass and precision sound replication. For SLUMSON instrumentals... they the best.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

So cool you are up on these man. SLUMSON forever! Looking forward to hearing new joints from you.

[@anupambphoto]

That freak out. I felt that.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha! Yeah man this hobby can be real strange. XD You in the market for a headphone?

[@anupambphoto]

@@HomeStudioBasics I need a good day for the 6xx and Magni 3+ !!! Love the channel btw !

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@anupambphoto Thanks bro!!! Maybe get an Objective 2 or ATOM instead :) ;) Who needs that Schiit?

[@DaMotaGaming]

I'd say they are from being shockingly and underwhelmingly disappointed upon first trying them on my cellphone, laptop and playstation 4. They're not as sharp or clear as I hoped and are quite faint to my dislike. ... Hopefully I figure out the semi-open all-foam over headphones I tried at an audiophile experts shop which I regret not buying on the spot last year...

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! You will definitely need an Amp/DAC for best results. Do you still have them? If so, I can help!

[@wesleyleigh4063]

I personally think it is (Overrated), but only for Audiophiles. For anyone else it's the best in class. Granted the 58X was reduced to $129 recently. for that price i'd buy it, but having since moved up and developed a fondness for Planars over dynamics I would seriously suggest the Verum 1 as your first Audiophile headphone - even if its more than double the price. Granted you might still like Dynamic drivers, I have just mostly abandoned them at least until I can eventually afford the Clear - though I will more than likely use it far, far less and more so for nostalgic reasons - Kind of like returning to an old radio or listening to lofi music. For this purpose though the 6XX just doesn't cut it, it's just too flabby and dull. Granted I don't even know if the Clear is that dissimilar, though people seriously seem to think so.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah man planars are def a cut above although it's not night and day. It's still very subtle, but definitely noticeable. Timbre and resolution are better than dynamic headphones and they just sound slightly more realistic. That's the thing though; I always somehow return to the hd600/58x/6xx and still love it. It's a weird thing for sure and I don't know exactly what to make of that. I don't think the 6XX sounds flabby/dull, but the 650 def can come across like that. I wasn't impressed with the Clear for that price but it's been awhile since I've heard it. I will be going back and trying it again at some point.

[@bucephallus1]

Hi, i realise i’m in a minority but i think the 6xx are very mediocre. However i’m old, so i should be listening to Grado’s. Shame i don’t like them, sonny. 😄 Thank god for k712s especially with Metal571 eq settings. Great channel btw

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks John! Hey different strokes for different folks right? Back in my day we had to walk FIFTEEN miles to get to school .. in the SNOW!! XD Yeah I love the K series too. Going to be doing a gigantic shootout on those actually: K7XX/701/702/Q701/K612/K712. I know you'll stay tuned!!

[@soulfulfool]

when you swap from headphones that actually have clarity and resolution to 6XX its like you would take some dirty cloth from the shed than wet it and threw it on the speaker, I guess lot of people like that old dirty sound 🤷‍♂

[@jjpablo]

Dt880 to me are my reference budget headphone. Since then I’ve upgraded to the dt1990 and I’ve absolutely loved them. I never like the hd600 series. Too veiled and shouty.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Nice! Yeah I didn't find the 6XX shouty which is why I recommend them. Still love my 600's but they are outclassed nowadays. Is the DT1990 bright like the 880?

[@jjpablo]

Home Studio Basics it’s not as bright. But if you’re used to the 6xx then they’re bright af.

[@shelly6482]

The Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohms made my HD 600s sound boring. Plus i really liked the sound of the AKG K701 so i ordered the K712s.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Updates on K712?

[@shelly6482]

@@HomeStudioBasics Yes HD 600 and K712s run with Aune T1 really smooth sounding set. But still in love with the Beyerdynamic A20 with DT880/990 600ohms for dynamics with my cd player. Also got a Topping D50s for the stereo downstairs added it between PC and Aune x8 magic dac and it made it sound really meaty and bigger sounding. Topping D50s is very intresting with the digital OUTputs!

[@shelly6482]

Plus the DT880/990 edition 600ohms need 100 hours pink noise burn in to fix the treble

[@Tripokaridos22]

I am searching all these years a Headphone that sounds like Sennheiser HD25 but must be Over ear... And no one knows this answer... Man please help me... I cant find a bass so tight and fast like HD25.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah man, the HD25 is really something special. If it weren't for the Supra-Aural fit, that would be the best closed back of all time. Still comes pretty close. As for your question, man that's tough. I haven't really come across anything quite like it. Transients are incredibly fast, as it's perhaps THE best headphone for Metal and Progressive Rock like Chon, Plini, Animals as Leaders, etc.. These are all the headphones I've demoed: homestudiobasics.com/headphone-reviews-comparisons/ and out of those, I really can't say there's anything that compares as far as how tight and fast the bass is. Some people may think I'm crazy, but the original M50 is the only one I can think of that had that sort of lively, fast character with a thumping sick bass. Nowadays I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much knowing what I know about neutrality, but I will never ever knock the headphone like others have. I have only fond memories of my time with it. Let me think about this some more.

[@Tripokaridos22]

@@HomeStudioBasics so Audio technicas M50 are the closest to hd25 ? I understand that nothing compare to HD25 but mate i really cant listen them more than 10 minutes. Until now i have only buy depending by what u said , u are the only one that i can trust u are the only one that care ans the only one that likes neutrality but also if a Headphone is good even if it Is U shape u gone tell the truth.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@Tripokaridos22 Hey man thank you! Right now that's the only one I've had personal experience with that even comes close as far as a closed back with speed and thump. The Focal Listen was also really good but it's been awhile since I've heard that one. If it was an open back would you mind?

[@Tripokaridos22]

@@HomeStudioBasics i have more than 12 open back Headphones right now. I love open backs . i have HD 598 ,599,58X,600,650,660s, 700 , Beyer 990 , shure 1840 , shp9500, x2hR , R70 ,K612, k240 . I started from closed backs but didn't like them some p5 p7 from Bowers n wilkins some other Sonys JVC , B&O etch etch... But i dont know its like artificial sound not realistic to me. Buy now i am looking to buy a closed back with tight bass and not harsh highs. I am between Meze Classics 99 - M50X- focal listen the Pro ones with the Red pads. I really dont know what to choose for example i recently bought DT770 pro 80ohm and didnt like them they was Thin harsh om highs and bass wasnt tight and fast....but it waa very progressive and go low end, i make a Mod on them inspired by HD25 aluminium i post it on Head fi , i.put alluminium inside the cup and inside the felt ring the bass got way tighter also i use coffe filter in front of the driver and highs got lower also clarity and soundstage got lower .... But it was better than the stock for.me. So in the end what do u think ? Focal listen pro ? Claasics 99 ? Or m50 ?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah the P7 is horrible lol. One of the worst headphones I've ever tried. I did like the P9 though. The Focal Listen are really really good.. haven't heard the Meze but Audio Advice here in my hometown carries them so I def want to try those out soon. Looking at the Listen vs. 99 on Tyll's graph. Treble is very similar and there's the same sort of roll off after 1k, but the bass looks different. On the 99 it rolls off considerably after about 40Hz, Listen has basically no roll off. More on that in a sec. M50x of course is great.. My original M50's had too much treble but the x toned it down. Good question! I'd have to listen to the Meze first, but the Listen was a headphone that is pretty severely underrated. It's been awhile since I heard one but I remember the bass was pretty much perfect. It wasn't quite like anything I've ever heard, done a bit differently. Virtually no roll off, but there's a dip around 100 Hz that comes back up around 200. So there's a little "V" in there but it's more like a "U". It's just done incredibly well imo. The sound signature somehow was able to be lively and exciting but also smooth and laid back at the same time. Very non fatiguing. Treble is a bit darker and knows it's place; definitely not overly bright. I think you will love it. It's one of those headphones that you can listen to for awhile without feeling like any one particular frequency is out of line. Similar to a PM3 actually, though the PM3's mids don't roll off after 1k and the bass is a flat line.

[@TheAceBase]

I just picked up some HD650s. I like them over the 6xx they have a better build

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Glad you're enjoying them!

[@MrStingraybernard]

Yea I don’t think anything beats the 600 series for comfort

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Absolutely mate! This is a big reason why it's great for the majority of people. It combines everything into one complete package. I really can't say that about many other headphones (if any). With other products, it seems like you're always sacrificing something. The great thing about the 6XX is that it appeals to most everyone, especially newcomers. I let this girl borrow my HD600's last summer and her reaction was priceless. She couldn't stop talking about how amazing the experience was and that's why I always recommend them. The problem with audiophiles is that they're jaded. Always looking for something "better", when this headphone represents 95% of the hobby at under $200. I mean they're practically giving it away now.

[@TheSolidlad]

Save for IEMs with foam eartips. Like my TIN T2s.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@The Bishop Ah! Forgot about that one! Def right up there in the top 3. I think 6XX, Carbon are top 2. What would be the third? K612/702 are both very comfy, 9500 too. Any Beyer would probably take 3rd spot though.

[@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207]

tried the 600 and wish it has more detail. any recommendations?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Maybe you'd like something brighter? Let me know.

[@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207]

@@HomeStudioBasics I am looking for something super analytical and crazy detailed with some soundstage. But also flat responding. With noticable instrument separation.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207 Maybe the DT880 would be right in that sweet spot. What do you think?

[@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207]

@@HomeStudioBasics hmm...wouldn't that be a downgrade from 600 though? I was thinking somewhere between 600 and the 800s. Is Focal Elex any good?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207 Hmm downgrade? Not really. 880 is right there with the 600 and K701/702. Just a diff flavor. But no worries. I personally haven't heard the Elex but have heard the Clear and Elear and wasn't that impressed for that price. That's kind of what I'm getting at. Diminishing Returns + that price range is really awkward. 600-800 range. You may as well just go for an Ananda. That would be my recommendation if you want a true upgrade from mid-fi. The Ananda hits all the marks. I'd probably EQ 9-10k down just a couple dB but it's a fantastic headphone.

[@m.rod6751]

I got the HD6XX for Christmas and sent them back today , to tight for my BIG HEAD

[@HomeStudioBasics]

LMAO. How about these: homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/

[@0nemoa]

They are definitely overrated. They are great if you like not having soundstage, image and enjoy a very dark, veiled compressed headphones. They were ok many years ago. But if you want anything realistic sounding you will go with the HD 490 Pro. They are the new top dog. And they are leaps and bounds better than the 6XX/650.

[@robovirtuoso1354]

I wouldn't call it "overrated" because it is considered "cheap" in the grand scheme of "audiophile" things. It is still on the side of sanity.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Absolutely man! Crazy good value. I paid over $300 for my HD600's back in 2016. Nowadays good audio is getting much cheaper, which can be both a blessing and a curse. Curse because it sends people down the upgrade-itis rabbit hole faster lol. I guess that's debatable though, and you can look at it from 2 perspectives: 1) If you have a pretty good inclination that what you have is just about as good as it gets, you may not have a desire to venture down the hole, or 2) Because what you have sounds so good, you get curious about "higher end" gear that supposedly sounds even better and get sucked in that way. I'm fortunate in that I've had the chance to demo a lot of gear so I know that in the grand scheme of things, paying more is mostly overrated and you won't notice that much of a difference due to diminishing returns and all that.

[@robovirtuoso1354]

@@HomeStudioBasics I hear ya. I'm also on the situation #1 you cited. While I don't exactly call what I have "cheap", I only have 2 headphones, one brutally detailed and one forgiving. Never got the temptation to "upgrade" for years now, because I know those 2 headphones give me listening pleasure now, and that I already did my due diligence before choosing those two among the plethora of choices and so I made the right choice.

[@ikipearl]

But I'll watch your videos so you can tell me about the best pair out there😂😂😂

[@HomeStudioBasics]

XD The best pair of headphones is the pair that you don't have yet. :P

[@LyuboA]

what about if i need Closed Back headphones don't know why but i never liked open back and i had the chance to try some very expensive crap

[@WaRRioRofLight.]

I am a Sennheiser Fanboy. I just love everything from sennheiser. Even the cheap headphones just sound great.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yayy!! Me too! We can be fanboys together! 😂🙂

[@WaRRioRofLight.]

@@HomeStudioBasics I love to hear that from you. Me now Subscriberrr!!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

WOOOP WOOP!! Maximum bro fist👊🤓

[@WaRRioRofLight.]

@@HomeStudioBasics YEESS 👊👽

[@miladesn]

6XX is not overrated, 58X is though. They have very low details, for the price they are fine but they are no giant killer and with 6XX just being only $50 more, they make no sense to me. Just get the real deal.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

I'm itching to get the 58X so I can compare! I will be giving away either one of those or a 6XX :)

[@Farpun]

I don't think the 6XXs are overrated

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Nah they ain't.

[@gazzabazzazza]

Wtf is wrong with you in this vid?! 😂 Definitely more goofy than normal. Good vid btw. I like how you seem to have enjoyed making it

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hah yeah man at that Metal bit I truly lost it and couldn't gather myself. I have no idea why. But yeah I really had a blast with this one. I hope you laughed as well. XD

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Also I did a few lines of blow before hand. That could have factored in lol.

[@gazzabazzazza]

@@HomeStudioBasics yep several proper lols. Even some of the cuts / edits were just so wacky had to laugh at them :D

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@gazzabazzazza Haha nice! Yeah man I couldn't help myself. It's just so much fun.

[@progz5232]

How are your grand childern?

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man they're doing well! Thank you for asking! Are you thinking about getting a 6XX?

[@progz5232]

@@HomeStudioBasics thought about it seems pretty cheap for a good pair. Still thinking what I wanna do

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hmm, maybe this will help you decide, man! homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/ I think you should get one honestly. It's one of the best purchases you'll ever make. And yeah, the price seems crazy, right? That's why you should jump on it. Let me know!

[@maximianocoelho4496]

Damn they are overrated!!! and just because I cant buy it in Europe!!! In ebay I have seen selling for 300 euros, that is unfair Drop.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

You can't buy from Drop in Europe? Don't they have an EU site? Let me look.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

drop.com/talk/28994/eu-store-gone I didn't know that. Back in November it was up and running. Hopefully they'll bring it back. Maybe I can reach out to someone and see what the deal is.

[@maximianocoelho4496]

@@HomeStudioBasics No need mate...i will try to look for other pair of something in the EU market...because here is hell, like the HD 580, or the HD 565 Ovation, grandpa headphones.

[@maximianocoelho4496]

Worst thing is that Drop know about our situation but doesnt do much to fix it...i mean the headphones are made in Europe. is like they dont want us to buy on purpose.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@maximianocoelho4496 Keep me posted bro!!

[@universeman657]

What? Only peasants own fewer than 100 pairs of headphones that cost at least $3000 each. Nice video tho

[@HomeStudioBasics]

XD Thanks man!

[@antoinep9733]

Universe Man Stu’s core audience are audio peasants.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@antoinep9733 How DARE you.

[@lodewijkveldhuijzen7884]

650 is 6xx, only difference is the paint.

[@lodewijkveldhuijzen7884]

Well, and smaller plug on the cable. How come you say they sound different? Really curious. I normally like your stuff. Maybe I've been misinformed? Doubt it though. Ps I own them.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@lodewijkveldhuijzen7884 Hey man! I talked about it in the video and here in the comment section a bit. :)

[@lodewijkveldhuijzen7884]

@@HomeStudioBasics Ah! Must've missed that. Will take another look. I like your content man. All the best.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@lodewijkveldhuijzen7884 Thanks bro! Much appreciated :)

[@MrStingraybernard]

Bought these and the he-4xx and and the he-4xx was better in every way

[@Hzq_ali]

Sound is subjective dude. What is better for you might not be better for someone else

[@MrStingraybernard]

I know that dude , I’m stating my opinion if it’s ok with u ...

[@intoitreviews]

Most nonaudiophiles would agree with you I think... some audiophiles get caught up on the top end of the 4xx. Sheepskin pads help a bit with that though and the staging in the 4xx kills the 6xx. Different strokes for different folks though.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

pbs.twimg.com/media/DiKP480VQAAuwq-.jpg XD

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha seriously though. Here's my copy paste from another comment: ========== I would recommend the 4XX over the 6XX if not for the treble. It's just kind of unforgivable almost lol. Tends to ruin certain tracks. I will say it does outclass the 600 series aside from that. Everything is better: Timbre, Soundstage, Bass extension, etc. and it sounds more buttery smooth and organic. There's nothing quite like a planar headphone. The build of a HifiMan also tends to hold me back from recommending it because that's super important as well. You just never know what you're gonna get. Very Jekyll and Hyde. 4XX is probably the most reliable though out of the bunch (aside from the headband adjustment issue which happened on inToit's pair). Comfort I'd rather have the 6XX though I love the 400 series with the original pads or the hybrids. Sheepskins' aren't intimate enough for me. I need a warm hug and I'm not getting that with them XD. As a long term investment, I think the 6XX is the safer route and still sounds phenomenal, hence why I recommend it. Still thanks for stopping by and chiming in!!

[@soulfulfool]

So... how are your grandchildren? 🤣🤣

[@imabeliever85]

No

[@LyuboA]

i can tell you that Sennheiser HE-1 is overrated so probably this one is too btw HE-1 costs $50 000

[@ChillToMusic87]

Yes definitely overrated! The Hd 600 is so much better. The Hd 6xx is god awful!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

👍

[@L0nkero]

I dont know about 6XX but all headphones from older HD 600-series are imo overrated AF, like every wannabe-audiophiles trophy number ones. And I think that the whole "scaling/synergy/etc"-thing around them is pretty much a meme which is probably based on when people started "finetuning" the sound more to their liking with tubes etc. I hope you get a chance to try out ATH-R70X some day, those are imo better than lets say 650!

[@intoitreviews]

I've been itching to review an R70X for a while. Will need someone to send on into the channel for comparison, or sell me a used one in immaculate condition. I think you're definitely on the right track there!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha yeah. How dare you say something bad about the 600 series. How dare you. This should be the official meme of the audio file community: i.imgur.com/mSRzANL.jpg

[@ImWanderinIf]

let's be honest audiophile hobby is just liquid OCD, mainstream 30 dollar headphones are good enough for enjoying music

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! I don't know about $30, but about $100 is 85% i.e. something like a V6/7506, I would consider the 6XX 95% of what the hobby represents, and the other 5% is like a good planar or a Utopia which I still probably wouldn't buy at that retail price but may consider it at a lower price, as the *last* headphone I ever purchase after selling everything else lol.

[@ImWanderinIf]

@@HomeStudioBasics i was getting into this hobby but i kinda stopped when i realised that when i am "in the zone" and enjoying music it doesn't really matter what headphones i use, i can enjoy music on a cheap headphone or on an expensive one, the truth is that there isn't that much difference between a cheap headphone and audiophile headphone today, both of them cover the entire useful sound spectrum and the frequency response is retalively close on all modern headphones, the expensive one gives more of the peripheral or marginal details that aren't really that essential for music enjoyment, if you think about it a 30 dollar headphone sounds better then everything on planet earth 70 years ago, and yet 70 years ago music industry was exploding and people were spending good money for a single song to listen on much worse quality than what a 30 dollar modern headphone gives, that's why i think that this hobby is mostly OCD and if anything this obsession with the holy grail of sound makes music less enjoyable cause you obsess over the sound quality too much, not saying that it's necessarily wrong to be an audiophile

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Oh no you're absolutely 100% spot on with everything you said. It's a disease and I'm getting really sick of it actually. Esp. because of this whole measurement BS with dacs which is the single most idiotic thing that I've ever heard. I have zero f'ing interest in how a dac measures when I'm listening to music. In fact, you said verbatim what I said in my video here and it's nice to see that people are starting to realize all of this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKC1c6abp72Br80