🔫Shootout: Sennheiser HD 600 vs. HD 6XX [With HD 650 Comparison]

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[@user-bf3cg9rt8k]

The review is 9/10, but you have to work on your twerking. PSSSST i heard that Etymotic has pretty good iem's.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Lmao I just pinned your comment after pinning my friend Shawn's earlier. Just gold man. I will work on it for either the next video or the one after that. "Beyond that, I'm gonna have to check my calendar." "GOOD! Because it's gonna be filled!" Sorry random Breakfast club reference. It kind of just flowed so I went with it XD :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIXIiqGZrZaro6s

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hello! How's my twerking on the new Cobalt Shootout? XD

[@aagm.]

I got here from an article on your website - enjoy your writing style and your personality shows in the vids, too. Hope you're well + thank you

[@MrRad21]

Great video Stu, I love your sense of humor and style.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thank you so much Bob! Hope to hear from you more in future videos as well :)

[@doodoobutter4406]

your videos are great, idk why but your very relaxing to watch i enjoy the lil jokes too 😊

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha thanks Doodoobutter! Did you happen to see my Thank You video? I shouted you out in there somewhere :)

[@metal571]

I see FWIW yeah, I just went through a 600, 650, 6XX, and 660S again recently and sold the 600 and 6XX to keep the other two. I also noticed not only the additional forwardness on the 600 but that additional grain there that you can't EQ out. I don't remember that at all, but I'm glad I went with the 650 now instead like you did lol. Also 6XX and 650 are basically identical sounding when I tried them back to back as well. I just wanted the prestige of owning a 650 instead, wew

[@HomeStudioBasics]

First of all, what are you doing up at 4 am?! Lol. Yess. You can clearly hear that sort of grain side by side vs. a 600. It's like brash or sand papery or something. Haha nice. I actually thought the 6XX was crisper sounding but at the time of the demo I didn't have my friend Craig's 650 on hand so take that with a grain although I've listened to the 650 A LOT. The 6XX seemed to have more air around the instruments with this feathery like quality that I don't remember the 650 having. It didn't seem veiled at all by comparison. I actually love the 650 though and prefer it easily over the original 600. The 6XX/650 for me are just about the perfect audiophile headphones. I would like to try a 660S and 58X at some point. How would you describe those 2 in comparison? It's funny; now that I'm all alone with the 600 again I still like it. Edit: Nevermind jk 3k is annoying again lol. You do tend to start to resent headphones (as well as Amps and DACs) when you have others around to go back and forth with though. It's such a weird phenomena. #istillloveyou

[@metal571]

@@HomeStudioBasics lol I think it was only like 1 something am when I wrote that. Had no idea you even had youtube reviews. What you're describing sounds like pad condition differences between the 650 and 6XX there, make sure the pads are absolutely new when you compare these things as they degrade quickly and hugely affect the treble forwardness and extension. The 660 and 58X aren't really related in sound quality at all since the 58X is grainier than all of the other 6x0 chassis stuff but I don't think the 660 is any more detailed than the 600 or 650 either, it's just got a different tuning and is easier to drive. Rtings graphs are pretty accurate to see the difference between those two, to make it easier to see. PS DUMMY THICC

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@metal571 Yeah home skillet! Been on YT for awhile now. Glad to see you stop by and comment! Definitely get what you're saying. I did check the pads and one was slightly worn in while the other was in fine shape. This was a loaner sent by one of my subs/regular readers Shawn Quint. What's funny is I put it side by side to the 600 and all 4 pads looked more or less the same. The 650's that I demo have worn in pads but they still sound laid back soooo.. Idk. Are you saying that you change out all the pads for your shootouts/comparisons before you review? If you do that's awesome. I definitely will keep that in mind for the future though as it is an excellent point. I'm going to check those graphs now. I do enjoy Ratings' measurements. PS METAL GEARRRRR

[@metal571]

@@HomeStudioBasics it's just that for the Sennheiser 6x0 series in particular, the pads have a serious effect on the sound, moreso than some other brands and models, that's all

[@metal571]

@ROMERO { 115 } I have no idea what part of the review you're talking about here but I also don't care about he said she said stuff from other reviewers. I made my point on what I prefer and that is it.

[@Youtubings335]

Just because I'm invested in your ridiculously underrated channel, your voice is crisp through the mic but picking up a lot of static/background fuzz, I'm sure its nothing you cant get rid of with a bit of tweaking (something i know nothing about - sorry). Great content as always!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah gotta work on that. I think it's partly due to the placement of the mic at the moment and the noise coming from outside. I kind of enjoy it but some may not. I'd like to get something like a DBX 286S for processing at some point. Thanks so much for the encouragement and feedback!!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Wow I'm noticing it even more now with the K702 through a Bravo Ocean. Def gotta fix this. Hopefully getting a new camera/set up soon!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

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[@MrSlipfilth666]

Bahahaha dummy thicccc

[@ttrons2]

Nice review I am going to pick up the 650 tomorrow.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks so much man! If you use a link in the description I do get a kick back. Really helps me and the channel out more than you know. Keep me posted!! 🎧

[@MikeVideos327]

awesome video, just helped me pull the trigger on the 6xx

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thank you so much my brother and so glad to hear my video helped convince you! You're not going to regret it I can promise you that. In fact, I'm looking to sell my 600's asap for the 6XX that's how much I loved them. What will you be driving them with?

[@MikeVideos327]

@@HomeStudioBasics I just bought the schiit stack (modi & magni 3) it's still on the way. Originally bought to get my audio technica ath-m50x louder but decided I wanted to update my headphones as well.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@MikeVideos327 Nice! I used to own the Magni 2 but sold it last year. Don't have a bad word to say about it but had an influx of amps at the time and needed the money. Please keep me posted on your impressions of the 6XX!

[@oliverarless3523]

Super helpful, great watch, thank you man

[@HomeStudioBasics]

My pleasure man! You gonna go with the 6XX? It's on sale right now :)

[@oliverarless3523]

@@HomeStudioBasics Yeah man! I plan on purchasing shortly. If you have any other recommendations I'd love to hear! The 6XX seems great though. I'm excited to watch the rest of your material! I appreciate your approach to making videos, informative and easy to watch. Cheers!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah man my pleasure! Check this article out as it should really help you decide: homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/ Keep me posted and leave a comment there as it's much easier for me to engage in dialogue. I never get follow up notification replies here lol.

[@loganynguyen]

lots of details man, good shit

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thank you for the love man! Which one are you sold on?

[@loganynguyen]

@@HomeStudioBasics I ended up getting the 6xx for the sound and deal

[@antoinep9733]

Having a bass-boost switch on your amp is a good option with the HD 6XX. Don't use it all the time, but it helps with electronic, reggae and hip-hop.

[@cxmxc]

If the mix is good enough then it shouldn't need bass boost...

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yep I've sent back the Atom so I'm going to mess around with the bass boost on the K3 and see how it sounds with the 6XX.

[@josepedro6451]

@@HomeStudioBasics Have you sent back the Atom?. Now that you "convinced" me to buy one?... :-)

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@josepedro6451 Haha I was only demoing it. They have been nice enough to send me units for reviews/videos. :)

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@cxmxc Sometimes it helps but I found that the K3's bass boost sometimes ruined the mix. Other times it sounded sublime. The E10K's I thought was done more tastefully for the majority of tracks from an overall standpoint.

[@demon-ll9eg]

nice channel + review

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks man

[@jownbey]

Great vid. The only sennheisers that seem really interesting are the hd 800. I wish id had the sense to skip entry level entirely haha

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Thanks man! I think a natural progression from entry to mid to high is healthy. If you go right to the HD 800 or something similar, nothing else will sound as good haha. That's a dark place to be. XD

[@faziolifairmont8125]

im not very interested in the HD800. just like the focal Clear, they sound a bit better in resolution but suck at everything else. And most music doesnt even have that detail unless you rather listen to benchmarks all day. The hd800 sounds too bright, closed, and wrong. its very... uncalm to listen to. like the EQ is completely fungled up.

[@shaminy1823]

I’m glad you didn’t steal my headphones. 😂

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha never man! Thank you so much for lending them to me for review. I look forward to future dialogues and got your Insta name as well :)

[@TheIgnoramus]

I do a 2 db raise past 16k hz and below 126hz with sonarworks. Makes em perf.

[@ZeBubba]

I used to have both, ended up selling the 650. They just sounded too mellow and warm for my tastes. Somewhat older pads on them might have made them even more so. Didn't think to test then with same pads then, oh well. Both are very good anyway, esp for the price.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey Bubba! Have you tried the 6XX?

[@ZeBubba]

@@HomeStudioBasics Nope, I thought they were just a 650 with a different color.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@ZeBubba Nah. For me the sound of the 6XX is the best and didn't sound like the 650. I found it a great middle ground between the overly in your face mids of the 600 and the warmth of the 650. Struck a perfect balance. Great pair with the ATOM!

[@tobiasjone]

The hd600 with the Chord Mojo, Can Opener and Morphit are the closest thing to my big PMCs I’ve heard. I’ve got the Focal Utopias and hd650, but I do prefer the hd600.

[@bmwlifestyle9747]

I have the 6XX and they’re the best headphones for $200 period

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yes! Thank you! Agree wholeheartedly. Can't think of a better recommendation for newer folks to the hobby. Check this out: homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/

[@MrItchyStitch]

Hi, this is a great review. I was wondering what's the intro song for this video. would you mind letting me know? thanks

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man thank you! I did the intro beat and it's here: soundcloud.com/xtra-base-hitz/tried-my-best If you'd like to purchase a lease you can here: homestudiobasics.com/beats-for-sale-3/ and finally for exclusive, just contact me homestudiobasics.com/contact/ :) I'm def getting back into making them though so stay tuned for some updates to the beat player and stuff!

[@mingkee27]

With Dekoni velour on 6XX, I can wear 4 hours all the way and no pain at all and I have big skull (sound change is pretty minimal)

[@bandhanjha8563]

Hey you should give 58X jubilee a try sometimes. I assume you are gonna like it a lot

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yeah man been wanting to get one of those here for awhile along with a 660S and then do a big shootout of all of them and end it once and for all lol. Would need a 6XX again though too XD 58X vs. 6XX vs. 600 vs. 650 vs. 660S.

[@JvicyKisses]

I'm straight dumb waiting to get my 6xx and this put me at ease on my purchase. I got it for a steal for 160$ so my only standard is that they're better than my v moda 100's

[@HomeStudioBasics]

WoAAHH nelly! Yeah bro you're gonna sh** your pants!! They're that good! Lmao seriously tho the 6XX's are the quintessential audiophile choice and pretty much a perfect headphone all around. You're going to love them. If you don't I'll eat my sock. Haha if you'd like some further positive reinforcement, check out this article i just did: homestudiobasics.com/the-5-best-audiophile-headphones-for-under-500/ Let me know what you think!! Def keep me posted on the 6XX too! :) If you need zome help choosing an amp let me know!!

[@daviewavie112]

Look into getting a dark voice 336 or other OTL tube amp. They’re ideal for driving higher impedance headphones like the hd6xx. If you do definitely experiment with different vintage tubes as the ones they come with suck. Other otl tube amps: Bottle head crack (it’s a kit you build or you can pay extra to get one already built). La figaro 339 Woo audio wa2 and wa3 Little dot Mk ii and mkiii (I think) Schiit Valhalla 2 Also I recommend picking up an hd600. Depends on what you listen to. Hd600 I feel is better for contemporary stuff (Rock, indie, rap, electronic). hd6xx I think is better for jazz/classical/acoustic vocal stuff.

[@CreativEGenrE123]

Hlo HSB. I am planning buy new Headphones. Plz suggest me what is better for mixing - mastering - Beyerdynamic dt 880 pro 25o ohm or dt 880 premium 600 ohm ?? I request to you plz reply as a as possible. Thanks lot.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! I'd go DT880 Pro as it's easier to drive. Aside from that the sound is the same. Keep me posted!

[@Reeeepicheep]

Which sounds best with tubes? I’m hearing the 600 edges out the 6XX with tubes.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! I haven't actually used a 6XX with tubes but the 600 sounds great with the Crack! I tried it at a friends house :)

[@autofocus4556]

Blue in Green is perfection

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Yep. Bill Evans' piano at the end always gets me.

[@JTB--]

I've got the 6XX. The trick with the HD 600 is using it on a Tube Amp like the LYR 3

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Nice!

[@Fizbin32111]

Wait... The clamping force is lighter on the 6XX? It's definitely perplexing why you would prefer the 600's for comfort.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! I actually like my fit a big more snug, probably more so than some. :) Every time I put on an HD600 after not listening for awhile it's like a warm hug from an old friend.

[@CreativEGenrE123]

Hlo HSB. I am looking good pair of headphones for Mixing - Mastering purpose for my Music. I am thinking about beyerdynamic dt 990 600 ohm premium , dt 880 600 ohm premium and Sennheiser hd 600. Please suggest me which one better for my Mixing - Mastering purpose.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Woo that's a toughie! Right off the bat the 990 would be good but is the weak link between these three. A bit too much bass for mixing. The HD 600 is also good, but a bit of a dark treble. IMO you want some sparkle up top. The 880 is pretty much the perfect mixing can. For a long time I recommended the 600 and it's still a good choice, but I'd swap out the 600 and put the 880 in top spot nowadays. It's got a rolled off bass, but not abnormally so, with a perfect mid-range and brighter treble which is what you want mixing because it exposes flaws quicker. I still use the 600's daily but I'd go with the 880 here. It's a more even and predictable sound across the entire frequency spectrum. If you REALLY wanted to lean towards the 600 I'd def go with the 6XX instead. It's a near perfect headphone and super hard not to discuss here as well. Let me know your thoughts and If I can help out further!!

[@CreativEGenrE123]

I want in my headphones these things - 1. Long time comfortable. 2. Real - truth Sound 3. Good Sound stage 4. Best for Mixing - Mastering 5. Good Bass. This things i m looking.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hmm. Based on that I'd probably still go with the 880. The 6XX won't have quite as good of a Soundstage unfortunately. I would recommend you something like a K702 but it's bass response is rather lean. Are you looking for a good amount of bass, or perhaps you would rather hear the intricacies and nuance without the impact?

[@DibsonAlexaBliss]

6xx is the best value for money headphone of all time

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Absolutely without question!

[@MrChristopherMolloy]

Good review. If you'd like some feedback, I suggest scaling back some of the silliness. People click on these vids to hear reviews, all the other stuff is just an opportunity for them to click off it.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man thanks! To be honest, I'm probably not going to scale back on it. Most of my regulars really enjoy it and at the end of the day I'm going to be myself regardless. If people don't like it that's on them and they are free to click away. I deliver some of the best and most in depth content infused with my own sense of humour and style, and my subscribers have always appreciated that. Thanks for stopping by!

[@majestyk3337]

The problem with the 650's is they sound worse as the pads flatten. The 600's are the opposite...they sound less bright and have slightly better bass. The narrower the 600 pads the better. No one is lying when they say they prefer the 600's.

[@RealJonzuk]

have fun paying 150$ more just for that ill enjoy the HD 6XX until i can afford the 600$ sony MDR headphones

[@ohnonate]

Does classical sound better with the 600

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Still a bit closed in for my liking I don't really use the 600 for classical.

[@ohnonate]

@@HomeStudioBasics thanks for the feedback. What would you suggest? Thanks

[@andrewilliams2139]

HD 650 has better cable and is brighter the cable with the 6xxx makes it darker

[@therealchoiboy]

sorry to hear that you are a graphic designer. unfortunately I too work in this decrepit dirt of a field.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Lmao that seriously made me laugh way harder than it should have. 😂 I remember a guy back in college named Dakota Ling told me being a graphic designer is a soulless job haha. Fortunately I don't have to do it at a soul sucking firm. Check out my portfolio sometime! Link in description :)

[@therealchoiboy]

@@HomeStudioBasics Will do. I'd say its prob not as soulless as FB content moderator, accounting or data entry I'd imagine. but eh its [barely] a living. plus you could do cool stuff independently aka youtube. tbh the music keeps me goin'

[@redforrori]

The count tho....lol

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Haha! Glad you enjoyed!! :)

[@MoonMugsUK]

@ 2:18 pmsl

[@soulfulfool]

6 series performance depend on source quality, or am I that kind of snobish audiophile that shows middle finger to budget amps xD power must be clean let force be with you

[@phaenius]

You look like a young Roger Waters.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Hey man! Haha not sure if that's bad or good but thanks?

[@phaenius]

@@HomeStudioBasics Not good or bad, just something I noticed. Especially now that I'm watching the 1967-1972 The Early Years discs. Wonder if you play the bass as good as him. :)

[@HomeStudioBasics]

​@@phaenius Ha nah. I play acoustic guitar though! I went to one of his early vids and there were some chicks (and dudes lmao) who were like Oh Roger! You're so cute hehehehe. I asked good or bad because I thought he had like a weird look to him lol. If you had said Gilmour then I would instantly know dead sexy. Here's the vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGbak6awrL98pKc In this video he's pretty studly though heh. He's even got the Koss Pro 4AA's on! (or whatever variant). You've seen Live at Pompeii right?

[@phaenius]

@@HomeStudioBasics Yes. I like Pink Floyd. Not a super-ultra-uber-fan, but I listened all of their albums and rare tracks more than once. And nah, sorry, you don't look like Gilmour. :D He might have been good looking when young, but he gained weight later on and lost his hair. :) Roger was ugly, but at least he stayed slim and kept his hair (although gray now). :) And you have a weird look like Waters too. :))) Anyway, I considered buying HD6XX but at the exact time I wanted to make the order, they went out of stock for Europe. Maybe it's a sign not to buy them? (I wonder) After all, they are not that nicely built like the Senns. I read that those Mass Senns are manufactured in my country (Romania) and everything built here is shit in terms of quality. Do you recommend them? At the moment I have Sennheiser's HD598. Will it be a noticeable improvement? Edit: And oh, I somehow managed to find a new, unopened VHS cassette with the Pompei concert on ebay, I wonder how it resisted being sealed after so many years. :O

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@phaenius Sorry this is late. I didn't get notified of your response. Lol I didn't ask you if I looked like him. I said if you had said him I would have known that you thought I was attractive. ;) Haha if by "weird look" you mean I'm dead sexy, then you would be correct good sir :P Anyways enough of all that silliness. Nah man 6XX is built the exact same as the 600 and 650. It's cheaper and to me actually sounds a bit better than both. Definitely sounds better than a 600 no contest. It's supposed to be basically a clone of the 650 but I find it a bit less warm and a little crisper and snappier. Kind of like a cross between the 600 and 650. I would snag one for sure. $25 off right now at Drop: massdrop.7eer.net/2qJ4a Really an easy recommendation when you consider the price you're paying vs. the other 2. I have an HD600 still, but I wish I had the 6XX. It just sounds better to me. The mid-range is not as forward. That's the main takeaway. The 600's get annoying in the mids in a hurry. Still almost a perfect headphone though. I'm actually listening now with the 600 + Bravo Ocean into the DF Red as the DAC. Dope! *Petit Biscuit, Bipolar Sunshine, Cautious Clay* - Wake Up. Let me know what you decide! If you purchase one through my link I do get a kick back so it's much appreciated. Def keep me posted man!

[@watchdog005]

Longtime audiophile here. I owned the 600 before this guy was born. The 600 cable is a better cable. 43.00 when it was available vs 11.00 for the 650 or 6XX. Don't worry that the 600 cable is thinner, it's actually stronger and sounds better on any of the 3. The 600 cable is reinforced with Kevlar the material used in bullet proof vests. As far as sound the 650 or 6XX is warmer but the 600 is neutral and more accurate. If you like the one that's more colored then go for it. The 600 has a long break in time. Turn the sound up to 3 oclock on your amp and let it burn in. 600 got a class A rating in Stereophile and it's sound described as electrostatic which is an accurate description. Much more neutral and detailed then the 650 or 6XX. If you want a good headphone amp for the money buy a Creek. Both these headphones are great. It's a matter of tastes or flavor. Don't listen to this guy. You might like the 600 more.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

The 600 is not the better purchase nowadays my friend, sorry to say. Most people that get one will end up replacing the cable as well. It's not that it isn't strong. After running over it with my chair countless times I can agree with you on that. It's just long, super annoying, and constantly gets in the way. Also the 600 isn't more neutral; the mid-range on it is pushed too forward which has been confirmed by graphs and a plethora of other people. Pushed too forward does not equal neutral. So let's dispel that myth real quick. It's a flawed headphone. It's irritating and in your face (in the mids), while the 6XX is both more realistic, accurate, and neutral sounding. 650 is similar to 6XX but a bit warmer and more syrupy. The 6XX is the best out of the 3 because it sits right in the middle. It doesn't sound overly warm like the 650, nor does it sound too shouty like a 600. It's nice and crisp without being overbearing. Before the 6XX I would say sure, get a 650 or 600. But not now when you can pay a fraction of the price and get a better headphone. Go with a 6XX friends. Don't believe watchdog005 Joe's lies. XD I'm trying to save you money. He wants you to pay retail. Who do you trust more? :P kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5C8Zoh4aN2rjZo In all seriousness though, there's a reason why the 6XX is Drop's best seller and has near perfect reviews. It's basically the perfect audiophile headphone.

[@watchdog005]

@@HomeStudioBasics LOL, the 6XX is an exact copy of the 650 just a little cheaper made but the sound is identical. If you want something between the 650 and 600 get the 660 though I don't care for it. The 600 is not flawed nor do any headphones have a flat frequency response like an amplifier, they all deviate from flat. No the midrange is not pushed forward, the bass response is rolled off slightly in the mid band and in the sub frequencies. Neither the 600 or 650 is a bad or flawed headphone. The only thing flawed is your hearing. The 600 is the original that received the highest praise class A ranking in Stereophile. Rarely does the remake beat the original that got race reviews, it's more to satisfy those who like the component with a different flavor. Some people like the coloration of a mid bass hump which is fine but it does take away from the original sound and in no way makes the 600 flawed. It's neutral not flawed. That's like saying I like Coke better then Pepsi because Pepsi is flawed. The 650 and 6XX are not neutral through the highs either like the 600 is. I'm not saying you're a bass freak but there are those who prefer a way exaggerated bass and don't care to hear what's actually recorded and reproduced accurately by neutral headphones. I don't base anything on measurements. Two components can measure the same and have two different sound qualities. If you think frequency response is what creates a great audiophile headphone you're wrong. You are not an audiophile and have a lot to learn and experience before you can call yourself an expert on reviewing a product.

[@watchdog005]

@@HomeStudioBasics LOL, the 6XX is an exact copy of the 650 just a little cheaper made but the sound is identical. If you want something between the 650 and 600 get the 660 though I don't care for it. The 600 is not flawed nor do any headphones have a flat frequency response like an amplifier, they all deviate from flat. No the midrange is not pushed forward, the bass response is rolled off slightly in the mid band and in the sub frequencies. Neither the 600 or 650 is a bad or flawed headphone. The only thing flawed is your hearing. The 600 is the original that received the highest praise class A ranking in Stereophile. Rarely does the remake beat the original that got race reviews, it's more to satisfy those who like the component with a different flavor. Some people like the coloration of a mid bass hump which is fine but it does take away from the original sound and in no way makes the 600 flawed. It's neutral not flawed. That's like saying I like Coke better then Pepsi because Pepsi is flawed. The 650 and 6XX are not neutral through the highs either like the 600 is. I'm not saying you're a bass freak but there are those who prefer a way exaggerated bass and don't care to hear what's actually recorded and reproduced accurately by neutral headphones. I don't base anything on measurements. Two components can measure the same and have two different sound qualities. If you think frequency response is what creates a great audiophile headphone you're wrong. You are not an audiophile and have a lot to learn and experience before you can call yourself an expert on reviewing a product.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

@@watchdog005 Sorry for the late reply. Your response went into the spam folder and I didn't see it. You're just about the only person who won't acknowledge that the 600's mid-range is flawed and pushed too forward, so perhaps you're the one with hearing issues? Just a thought. I also didn't mention bass and treble anywhere in my response. I'm mostly focusing on the mid-range discrepancy between the 600 and 650. "LOL, the 6XX is an exact copy of the 650 just a little cheaper made but the sound is identical." "Two components can measure the same and have two different sound qualities." You kind of just proved my point. The sound of the 650 and 6XX is not identical to me, but: that's just my opinion. I can't exactly say why I perceive the 6XX to be crisper sounding and more lively, but those were my impressions. I never claimed to be an audiophile anywhere in my reviews or videos. I actually claim the opposite if you read and watch my content. I never said frequency response is what creates a great audiophile headphone, but I *am* saying that it definitely helps in verifying what you hear. I never called myself an expert either. I simply did a shootout video and gave my own impressions and conclusions of the 3 headphones. You're the one who's condescending down to me, as if you know everything. Maybe you should make a KZbin channel and give your own opinions? (I'm being serious) The mids on the 600 were too forward long before my own frequency sweeps verified that. Ratings' sweeps also confirm it, but even regardless, it's common knowledge and pretty much a universal consensus at this point. Anyways, we're going in circles here. I probably won't respond to this thread after this. You can disagree with me without coming off the way you do in your replies. There's a clear difference in the way you convey your stance vs. the way others have. Thanks for stopping by though. Have a great day!

[@khajitt]

@@HomeStudioBasics I might be late, but I think he was just salty that people can get HD 6xx (which is basically a steal compared to HD 600) lol