Is The Thousand-Year Door Remake Worth $60?

[@GettingMadz]

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[@Not_Preston0805]

I didn't even notice lol, Amazing video as always great work Madzzz!!!!

[@cedrikthibert7033]

It's cheap for such a great remake and it also is very rare and expensive to get a gamecube + the original version.

[@Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi]

At least it'll be cheaper than buying the orginal.

[@sammycapri5957]

So true

[@YandelColon69]

And people will still buy it cause it’s Nintendo and it’s the best paper Mario game

[@jomaq9233]

Sorta like 3D All-Stars vs. an original copy of Sunshine

[@RaziOrSomething]

Yeah and it's also more convenient then either digging up your old Wii or Gamecube, dumping it to use on an emulator, or buying a Wii or Gamecube. And not only that, but even if you have a Wii, you can't use any controllers besides the Gamecube controller, not even the classic controllers.

[@gooeydude574]

@@jomaq9233no cause 3D all stars was a very limited release

[@Metacred]

Its the highest selling game on amazon, in trouble my ass

[@GettingMadz]

actually didn’t know this! here’s hoping itll do decent

[@leontriestoart]

​@@GettingMadzdo better. I've unsubscribed from your KZbin, Instagram, patreon, only fans, Uber eats, and Spotify

[@shanegiorgio4713]

I only got my GameCube a few years ago from a family friend, and every time I see stuff like this it makes me really happy that TTYD was one of the 3 games I got from them along with it. Of course there are other GameCube games that have cost me quite a bit, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance cost me $200, and that was a used disc (most copies on ebay cost like $1,000+) but I least I dodged the TTYD bullet.

[@leontriestoart]

@@Metacred I'm unsubscribed from your Netflix account

[@TheNuts1225]

It said number 3 actually... number 1 and 2 are giftcards.

[@SquidSushi123]

Madz, the reason ttyd’s trailer has less views than origami kings is because ttyd was in a direct and the origami king was only posted on KZbin and Twitter

[@tastethepainbow]

Yeah, a better example would've been the SMRPG remake trailer, which got around 3-4 million views in about 5 months and TTYD's trailer not even breaking 2 million in the same amount of time.

[@therealjaystone2344]

@@tastethepainbowthe fanbase division really hurt the game

[@waffleboywonder8868]

Really don't know why it took so long to get trailers out for ttyd in comparison to smrpg. Especially since now they won't stop posting them not complaining but still.

[@HoodedOlive]

Something else to consider is that back when thousand year door originally released it was sold for $50, $80 in todays money after inflation. So really it’s $20 cheaper than the original from its time

[@roxygaming5968]

Copiuuuuuuuuum

[@leontriestoart]

They sold it for 50 holy 😭😭

[@HoodedOlive]

@@leontriestoart I mean the original Atari costed around $180 USD but after inflation it’s around $800-$1000 ish dollars. Don’t remember the exact number. Kinda crazy how inflation affects things

[@Rediscool9]

@@roxygaming5968 It’s not copium, they’re using their actual brain.

[@ridgenyan-botxv367]

Not to say that the game isn't worth the price, but why are you trying to justify why a re-release of an old game is being charged the same as a new game?

[@Victini862]

TTYD has earned that $60 price tag

[@Victini862]

After playing the remake for myself I stand by that statement

[@jazzimel]

$60 for a complete remake with a graphical and audio overhaul is completely worth it, regardless of it being a 20 year old game, not to mention so many have been wanting to play this game for years. Not in trouble at all. 😂

[@ridgenyan-botxv367]

You say that as if metroid prime remastered wasn't priced at 40, even while having the graphics being completely remade.

[@saltylemonton5537]

​@ridgenyan-botxv367 Metroid is a niche series that, even at its best, can't break 4 million units sold. Dont get me wrong; I love metroid, but it's not Mario.

[@Rediscool9]

@@ridgenyan-botxv367 Metroid Prime is a game that can be beaten in 8 hours. Paper Mario TTYD can take at LEAST 20 hours to beat.

[@MatTMurdockNT]

​@@saltylemonton5537 But we're not comparing Metroid to Mario, we're comparing it to Paper Mario which is a pretty niche series within Mario

[@Rediscool9]

@@MatTMurdockNT Don’t even go there. Paper Mario is still MARIO at the end of the day, his names in the freaking title.

[@Christoph8]

I don't care what it costs!

[@lewis9s]

I just hope that this is the start of them making Paper Mario as RPGs again. If they don’t want to make RPGs, then they shouldn’t make RPGs but then why even call it Paper Mario when it’s really something new?

[@samtheg1801]

Because... It's mario... Made out of paper... And 4/6 games in the paper mario series don't play like the first 2

[@leontriestoart]

​​@@samtheg1801I mean yeah, but the ones that are less rpg-ish are kinda mid. (Except spm and origami king my beloved) Edit: also these are technically sequels? Except super paper Mario I think. The "super" seems to indicate that it's meant to be completely different gameplay wise, but the other ones still try to be rpgs while not really doing that good of a job at it

[@mamounelhadidy6552]

why don't you mario fans have a soul

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

they’re still rpgs at the end of the day lmao

[@DAVID-ANDERSON]

Origami King was in the right direction with bringing back traditional Paper Mario gameplay and having partners that help you when battling. My only issue with that game is you don't get EXP from battling, you have to find hearts in the overworld that level you up

[@voltron77]

Bro, origami king has had its trailers out for a way longer time. Also, this game is going to sell well because half of the fan base wants the old style and the other half will be interested one of the old ones.

[@mrdansings]

Origami King is potentially my favorite game ever, I don’t understand how it gets so much criticism. I really hope this remake is just as good, visually it looks stunning!

[@tastethepainbow]

I like a lot of things about it, but it still feels held back by certain stupid creative restrictions and a battle system I felt could've used just a few more tweaks. Other than that, I quite enjoyed it, even if I didn't like it as much as the first two. I put it on equal with the third game.

[@السراقالمجهول]

because it isnt that good? simple as that bro

[@TheLargeGoose]

I don’t like defending game prices because I think everyone would rather pay less than $60 for any game

[@TheDiamondCore]

$60 is a completely fair and justified price for this

[@VioletStreak02]

That’s just you, others will disagree

[@davepumphernickel9568]

@@VioletStreak02lol no I would agree I’m not partial to wanting to pay more than 60$ for a game I’ve played before, and even then if they don’t add anything new I’m not buying it, it’s a remake for people who never played it, and want another trip back to have easy access.

[@ridgenyan-botxv367]

So many people are talking about how the price is "justified" given the quality of the game, and, while I don't necessarily disagree, I don't know why a re-release should ever be at the standard game price.

[@confuzedduk1008]

@@davepumphernickel9568Well, there’s more people who haven’t played than people who have. I agree, it’s not ideal for people who’ve played it before, but people who’ve played before don’t need to play it again. I haven’t played the original, so I’d be willing to pay 60 bucks as long as I know I’m getting 60 bucks worth of content out of it. Obviously, 60 bucks as a standard for games as a whole is not great for the industry, but that’s off topic and something I could ramble about for months, so I won’t. So, yes, 60 bucks for a game isn’t great, but for a remake of a widely loved game, people at least know it’s worth the price of a standard game, even though 60 isn’t good for any game.

[@VioletStreak02]

@@davepumphernickel9568 again, that doesn’t mean that everyone agrees

[@blindspuut]

I mean really, since not a lot of people have played this installment, anyone who doesn't know about it will think it's just a new Paper Mario game, so I think it's earned it

[@السراقالمجهول]

so its just trickery at this point theyre selling a 20 year old game that was sold for 20 bucks after it became a player choice title for 60 bucks like its a new game

[@Corgipon]

With how brilliant the game looks because of the breathtaking graphics and awesome music, $60 is worth it. Plus it’s actually much cheaper than the original.

[@Tomissohot]

This game is worth everything

[@pokemonanimebattle3615]

People are saying $60 is better than the $100 used is also leaving out that you need to biy a used wii or gamecube if you dont have it, a gamecube controller if you dont have one, and a gamecube memory card if you dont have one witxh will be like an extra $500

[@powerfullpummel6417]

Not to mention this is a whole ass REMAKE not a remaster of course its worth 60$

[@DAVID-ANDERSON]

​@@powerfullpummel6417The Switch version of Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door is a remaster not a remake because the Switch version doesn't add new mechanics or extra content to the game, all its does is build on the original and only improve the graphics. A remake is something like Resident Evil 4 PS5 / Xbox Series X or Persona 3 Reloaded, where those games were remade from the ground up with new added story, new mechanics and redone voice clips.

[@daniellejackson6543]

​@@DAVID-ANDERSONRemakes are just built from the ground up regardless of gameplay changes. I personally don't consider fe7 remake one because they are basically different games all together.

[@DAVID-ANDERSON]

@@daniellejackson6543Resident Evil 4 PS5 / Xbox Series X version is a remake because its not a brand new game in the series, its a remake of the original Resident Evil 4. Just because the game plays differently doesn't mean its a remake, thats like saying Final Fantasy VII Remake / Rebirth is not a remake because the game changes so much from the original, its not a brand new game in the series cause then it would be a sequel (Final Fantasy VII Advent Children) or a prequel (Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core) Also Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 according to Tetsuya Nomura is a remaster even though he said Kingdom Hearts 1 and Kingdom Hearts 2 were rebuild from the ground up because they lost the gaming code for those games, but the only thing that changed are resolution, frame rate and textures.

[@السراقالمجهول]

*ehm* dolphin *ehm*

[@DaBaseBallZ]

It better be,or else we'll get another sticker star

[@boo1_gaming927]

SMRPG sold 3 million copies already, which outsold the original. Yet again, it didn't get a European version during the SNES days, but still. If TTYD on Switch sells just as much as OK, if not more, then I could see Intelligent Systems going back to the original formula.

[@DAVID-ANDERSON]

The original Paper Mario Thousand Year game on Gamecube sold 1.9 million coipes, so knowing how much people have a Switch and with Paper Mario Origami King as of right now selling 3.34 million copies, the remaster will outsell the original

[@waffleboywonder8868]

Unfortunately intelligent systems seems to busy with fire emblem to even make advance wars in house let alone a high quality Mario spinoff not to mention the current director is a stuckup crybaby who doesn't understand why people prefer the old paper Mario's over his games.

[@Supervhizor]

yeah. they remade it from the ground up, its not just a texture upscale and resolution bump.

[@TopTierGamerMan]

If people are complaining about paying $60 for an upgrade of one of the most loved GameCube games and most protected games ever created, that’s a them problem, not the game.

[@therealjaystone2344]

$60 games is just overpriced

[@TopTierGamerMan]

@@therealjaystone2344 for a high quality AAA game?

[@SERMareep2007]

Tf? Some cases yes but this is absolutely not one of them​@@therealjaystone2344

[@Poly_Hes_Gone]

@@therealjaystone2344 wasn't the original 80 when put in todays prices (yeah it was 50 back then but due to inflation it's 80)

[@LegitMLG360noscoper]

Literal downgrade at 30fps

[@Joshi_ForReal]

I think it's worth it cause it has Toadsworth in it 😌

[@WL-bs4nc]

So true

[@ThePastaPlant]

As someone who played games like 64, and Color Splash. I'm interested in what makes people like TTYD so much.

[@daniellejackson6543]

As someone who played ttyd one difference between ttyd and 64 is that the partners have hp and there are badges that effect partners. Ttyd feels like a general improvement compared to 64 overall and I love it a bit more.

[@ThePastaPlant]

tbh i wasn't expecting anyone to reply, but thanks for the input.@@daniellejackson6543

[@g24eva27]

I own the original and got it used for 20 bucks back in 2005. But this game is definitely a 60 game. I cant wait to replay it with the updated cardboard look.

[@lordkaos31]

Paper Mario typically releases once every four years. The gap between the TTYD remake and origami king is 4 years so easy to say they put in the same amount of effort into this remake as they would a full brand new game.

[@السراقالمجهول]

did they design a new game? did they program everything from the ground up without a base? did they make a new story? design new worlds? no, no they didnt so its not a brand new game

[@2mista]

5:40 I think its worth noting that it was also sold for $20 as a nintendo selects for a while

[@sayonarameaninggoodbye]

which means it sold very well, so the price makes sense

[@Sylvia1335]

I miss the Mario and Luigi games also, the best games in Mario history. My favorite was Mario and Luigi paper jam

[@gligarguy4010]

People always make up reasons to be mad. It's the nature of the internet.

[@serpy007]

We're still surprised at this price and having this discussion in 2024?

[@justineld4905]

60? I'd pay 200. TTYD is one of the greatest games of all time and should be used as the basis for every new Paper Mario game they will make in the future.

[@johnnyhickman3083]

Considering how high the original is priced nowadays, I have no problem paying $60!

[@Pietrothesquid]

$60 is it worth it for a masterpiece game like paper mario ttyd

[@TurtleLoverTy]

I think the main thing to note is that Origami King wasn’t announced during a direct, so the trailer on KZbin was to only way to figure out info about the game (besides twitter). Meanwhile, Paper Mario TTYD was at the end of a direct, when most people are watching

[@CamdenAndrews-hl3hu]

I really hope the game does well, I'm dying to have the old Paper Mario spirit back. Also, I just found out Madz loves Super Paper Mario as much as I do. And he needs more subs just for that.

[@DAVID-ANDERSON]

The original Paper Mario Thousand Year game on Gamecube sold 1.9 million coipes, so knowing how much people have a Switch and with Paper Mario Origami King as of right now selling 3.34 million copies, the remaster will outsell the original

[@lasercraft32]

I don't care what everyone says, $60 dollars for a remake shouldn't be allowed unless its a full fledged _overhaul._ It should at _most_ be $50 dollars. And other remakes like Mario vs. Donkey Kong should be $40 dollars. I get Paper Mario fans are obsessed with this game cause its "the best game ever made" and stuff, but even if its worth the price for this game OTHER remakes do not have any reason to be this expensive.

[@raymaikeru]

It's more so people are taking what they can get, and the fact Nintendo is being merciful by keeping their standard $60, when Microsoft and Sony already moved onto having $70 as their standard. Also it practically is an overhaul. It's built from the ground up, very updated graphics, and new gameplay features and content as Nintendo has confirmed on Mar10 Day. Of course, that stuff we'll just have to wait and see. But at least this means we can get TTYD for $60 than frekin $385 (not joking).

[@DucPr0]

“It should at most be $50” like, your argument about pricing is just as arbitrary as the $60 Nintendo is selling it for. If it comes out for $50 you’re just gonna say “it should at most be $40”.

[@CirqueDuSomni]

I wonder how they do there pricing fr pikmin was so cheep. Is it like a name thing because it’s Mario they can sell it for higher?

[@omnivorousapple1720]

Pikmins more like a port then a remake they hardly changed anything for pikmin

[@otherlego]

I think in this case it’s because it’s a remake of such a highly anticipated game

[@ThenamesC]

Only news channel I watch

[@Zordyn]

It's a nintendo game ofc it'll be $60

[@MasterEm243]

Should I expect a new game to be in trouble again in 2 weeks?

[@afro-prince9518]

Madz, about the " blueprint for future Paper Mario games." If I know nintendo, even when they have a winning formula in their hand, nothing is set in stone when they make games. Case in point, the zelda formula.

[@migatte2172]

I hope they do cuz they know damn well that people want more rpgs in the future 🗿

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

Wdym the Zelda formula?

[@afro-prince9518]

@@Aktedya1-jt7vw look at the recent zelda games that released. LBW to TOTK.

[@waffleboywonder8868]

Nintendo is well within their right to make the games they want and we are well within our right to not buy. Also paper Mario is developed by intelligent systems not Nintendo proper hence why the games aren't as great as they used to due to fire emblem being their top priority along with having a stuckup crybaby directing the newer entries.

[@AyameSohma1993]

The average Joe, or normies won't even know that this is a remake. They'll just buy it because their kid loved Paper Mario: The Origami King. Or something like that. We, as Nintendo fans, know it's a remake, but even then it's not advertised as that anywhere on the title or box art. It doesn't say remake, remaster, HD, etc anywhere on the front of the package. So I wouldn't worry too much. It'll probably sell well. Also, I think it'll probably sell better now that the Switch 2 was probably delayed to 2025. It actually has breathing room, and won't be competing for whatever shiny new Switch 2 titles are on the horizon.

[@grantedspong]

Oh my god thats a lot of refrences already, im like 30 seconds in and i saw the wii thing on the thumbnail and at the top of the video it shows the ds battery and date. THATS SICK

[@Octav2000]

Replace ttyd with lm2hd

[@Zetchzie]

Unless 1HD is packaged in ill buy it second-hand

[@therealjaystone2344]

@@Zetchziewhich 100% doubt

[@FishStickz8877]

Definitely worth it waited 999 years looks great and they’re adding new things

[@syndere6755]

I am really hoping it ends up well. Also please, just more Mario RPGs in general, they're great

[@Evixyn]

It can be sold at seventy USD and it still will sell a million copies, ha ha.

[@junaglacierz1929]

What’s hilarious is that I bought a copy of thousand year door at a game store last year for yeah $100+ to find out a few months after that Nintendo was re-releasing it for the switch. Not sure if I should keep it or to resell it back to the store.

[@sayonarameaninggoodbye]

I’d keep it, it’s a nice little relic

[@MrSPW93]

Complete graphic overhaul. Updated soundtrack. QoL features and more to one of the best games ever made? People complaining about the price clearly dont realise how costly remaking a game is. Full retail price is generous for this masterpiece

[@Infindox]

The original game costs $100 or more for a copy, and the only other way to play it is emulation so... Yeah im fine with it.

[@nomo4u886]

This game is worth every penny

[@voltron77]

Why are people complaining, the new features still haven’t been shown and this game was asked a remake by a lot of fans.

[@DukeTheDukeTheDukeTheDuke]

i dont think there'll be new features

[@voltron77]

@@DukeTheDukeTheDukeTheDuke It has been confirmed there would be new features. Maybe paper Luigi and the magical compass, but definitely something. I’m hoping for super bosses or a hard mode.

[@DukeTheDukeTheDukeTheDuke]

@@voltron77 oh cool

[@SuperPlacido1]

@@voltron77 Where did you see that it was "confirmed"?

[@voltron77]

@@SuperPlacido1 On paper Mario TTYD’s website, it says something along the lines of “experience this classic with brand new features”.

[@donanilao7724]

60 dollars or no, I'm still buying the remake day one after my high school graduation.

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

Listen it’s either $60 or some unreasonably high price

[@alexanderrego1998]

Gotta keep in mind origami king has had almsot 3 years of the vid being up ttyd trailer only been out for 5 months

[@rubiks_20]

why is the second channel getting more activity than the main channel?

[@GettingMadz]

Main channel I’m keeping for bigger videos only with high quality animation - these videos only take me a day to make

[@nathanblackburn1193]

First of all the original is crazy expensive and secondly this isn't a mildly upgraded port it's a full remaster, like the people who worked hard to develop this still need to be paid y'know?

[@GettingMadz]

10000% agree!

[@AricYouTube]

Luigi’s Mansion 2 HD: …

[@THATTOFFEEGUY]

If they fuck up TTYD, I'll eat my own shoe

[@daniellejackson6543]

I doubt they will it looks like they are barely changing anything which is a good or bad thing based on perspective. I'm just hoping that danger mario is still in the game.

[@nerdtuga9180]

Origami king was just a trailer while TTYD remake was part of the Nintendo direct and most people saw the trailer there instead of on its own.

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

Hey in relation to the eventual chance of a Super Paper Mario Remake, the 2D Bowser section in TTYD is apparently the predecessor to SPM, so it'd make sense to remake TTYD before SPM. But man am I excited to actually play TTYD, i grew up in the Wii era so i missed out on having access to Gamecube games when i even had the chance (because I'd rather have Wii games lol) and currently got a WiiU so no Gamecube stuff. So not only do i get to try out TTYD and form an opinion on it (i like having opinions, and also am very curious about it. How many more ways can i say im curious? Im pondering my interest on TTYD right now) and geg to see the origin of my favorite Paper Mario game. Lets agree that Sticker Star doesn't need a remake tho ok?

[@Wario1382]

Sticker Star deserves a remake even more so it can finally become playable

[@ddnava96]

TTYD is a game that took me 40 hours to finish the first time I played it like 10 years ago and I didn't even go for the 100%. In contrast, Super Mario Odyssey took me 45 hours to 100%, and many hours were spent only farming coins to get my total to 999 so the castle gets a top hat or practicing glitches I saw online. I believe simply finishing the game would've been like 30 hours So yes, TTYD is well worth the $60 price tag

[@Growingcrazy8]

60$ is COMPLETELY fine by me. A STELLAR game remade in beautiful HD and cheaper than buying it on GC. It’s fine by me!

[@kingrobotnik6950]

But is it fine by you lol

[@السراقالمجهول]

buy for me then, i live in a third world country,, if the game was 50 i wouldve been able to afford it but now i cant

[@ChinCat-Creates]

This would be a good podcast

[@morphstarchangeling8024]

60 dollars for a better looking ttyd, and it's guaranteed to work vs trying to buy a copy of the original which used will cost you around $80-100 and unopened will push into the $120 dollar range. I think people need to not be angry about the remake costing $60 and just be happy we can even get a version of the game for that low.

[@sonicboss5716]

While ill be more excited for this because ttyd is my favorite rpg ever, i would be down for a super paper mario remake

[@Shadow-Joop-157]

In the first 6 weeks Super Mario RPG sold almost as much as Origami King and it will probably sell more than Origami King. The Thousand-Year Door is much more popular than the original RPG and it's going to get a remake. I think it will sell well

[@tastethepainbow]

It's also likely to be closer to the end of the Switch's lifespan than SMRPG was. Once the Switch's successor is inevitably revealed, people are gonna be saving their money up for the new console rather than on a late release on the previous one.

[@Shadow-Joop-157]

@@tastethepainbow From all the information about the switch 2 we know that the switch 2 is backwards compatible. Nintendo has always used that to keep old games alive longer

[@chibi2239]

The last time people complained about pricing was LoZ: Tears of the kingdom...and that game sold like 10 million in like days to a week. No offense, but i kinda feel like complaining about pricing is typically BS. If the price was so terrible...you wouldn't buy it or you'd just wait for a better moment/price to buy it, not complain about it before launch. The fact people are complaining tells me they're already getting it Day one anyways but need something to get uppity about. And it definitely seems forced with TTYD. Go back and LOOK at OG TTYD. This new one is clearly re-doing so much and isn't just "an upres," you know? (Sorry, didn't mean to rant. 😅 great vid as always, Madz!)

[@krispykrongle]

We need a 3D Land remake if we’re getting a 3DS Mario remake of a spinoff then we can get that as well

[@bennettnez4711]

Like on top of the one for switch with bowser story?

[@PoketronPokey404]

I started crying when I saw the PMTTYD switch trailer for the first time. There is some new features shown in the Mar10 day gameplay. The partners have back sprites and have new renders. Completely somewhat related note, but M&L Paper Jam was actually butchered similar to paper Mario. If you look at scrapped and uncut stuff of the game. The trio was supposed to go back and forth between The M&L and Paper Mario realm. Also Nintendo released The Bowser’s inside story remake the same day as NSMBU Deluxe.

[@PFGFrankly]

super amrio rpg, it was originally 20 but today money is 40 dollars, but with new content, make sense its 60 dollars plus have to remake the game the ground up

[@ApolloDawn85]

If TTYD wasn’t a remake of the best game in a franchise that hasn’t seen a decent game in 17 years, maybe I would complain, but people paid $60 for Color Splash and Origami King and those games are objectively flawed in respect to their combat. So I’m fine with paying full price to send a message to Nintendo that I want more Paper Mario like this.

[@Super_star_remix]

17 years? Orgimi king may have not been the best paper mario game but its still really good

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

Gonna have to fight you on this one. In my opinion, Color Splash is the defenition of "decent" and Origami King was really good. I prefer both over Super Paper Mario

[@supermariof0521]

I'm convinced the only people trying to dampen the hype for TTYD HD are Modern Paper Mario apologists who feel threatened that Classic Paper Mario might actually have a chance at making a comeback.

[@charliep7112]

Origami King fans like to call TTYD fans toxic, but guess what, DogsEatingDogs6 is apart of the Origami King fandom is is definitely more toxic than any TTYD fan, dude made a 2 hour video getting angry at 3 children who upset him in the KZbin comment section, and he's apart of Origami Kingdom, which is a pretty toxic group of people. I would like to see Origami King fans point to anyone from the TTYD fanbase as toxic as DogsEatingDogs6 and the Origami Kingdom.

[@vitalost9935]

Both sides are stupid, just enjoy both, admit to the flaws of the newer games and still enjoy where they succeed.

[@charliep7112]

@@vitalost9935 thoughts on DogsEatingDogs6?

[@charliep7112]

@@vitalost9935 who's worse, DogsEatingDogs6 or GamingMagic13?

[@Super_star_remix]

Nah I've played paper mario 64 and it deserved a remake way more than ttyd.

[@kenallenchannel3911]

I hope we get more paper Mario in the future

[@EnlightenedFenix]

TTYD is peak paper mario, and as a person who owns the original and beaten it many times, I will definitely buy this one even at $60.

[@RaziOrSomething]

I hope Luigi's Mansion 2 HD has story mode multiplayer, because me anf my family love playing the LM series, and we have played through 1 and 3 together (LM 1 3ds multiplayer was painful), but never 2, only ever the Scarescraper.

[@crazycanyon3028]

If you can’t tell it’s an old game it doesn’t deserve a price cut (at least not a big one)

[@theguywhomakesstuffbutbetter]

Ahh don’t worry about it CDKeys has me covered

[@BasementDweller_]

How’s it in trouble? It’s already doing amazing with preorders.

[@Reyn_the_Insane]

The sad part is this is releasing in the final year of the Switch. It is absolutely imperative that this game sells well, otherwise we'll just get more Sticker Stars. Nintendo needs to market the hell out of this game so that the average soccer mom buys it for her kid.

[@Rulegram]

Given that it’s a ground up remake, it’s probably laying the brick work for a true sequel (using same engine, mechanics etc); they’re in this for the long haul

[@السراقالمجهول]

this is the origami king engine

[@WooperK]

TTYD is kinda overrated but im still going play it and enjoy it

[@sealink129]

To be honest, I’m completely willing to pay that. While the story, gameplay, and character assets aren’t original, they’ve remade the game almost completely. The graphics and soundtrack have been revamped, the character sprites have new animations, and there have been several other things that show that they’re wanting to improve the original game, however minor the change (such as background locations having lit up windows and doors to show that you can enter). That’s more than most of Nintendo’s “remastered/remade” titles get. That’s not even taking into consideration that the original GameCube version is upwards of $75-100 rn, and before this was announced, was much closer to $150-200 depending on condition.

[@TheKabuto90]

First party Gamecube and Wii games are ridiculous. THIS is why ports and remasters/remakes sell for full price, because time and time again people have proven to be willing to pay multiple times that on the secondhand market. It's all about demand.

[@Frozzfire_Blackheart]

"The best mario rpg game is in trouble bc it cost $60" MY ASS

[@RandomBacon09]

Honestly, if TTYD remake has that bonus Luigi story people have been hoping for, I think the $60 would 100% be justified all because we could play as Luigi LUIGI NUMBER ONE!!!

[@slik_vz]

I kinda doubt it

[@raymaikeru]

Even though Nintendo has confirmed that new content IS being added to TTYD Switch, I doubt it's gonna be the Luigi story as a full-on story mode. I'd cough up $10 extra if they actually do though.

[@RandomBacon09]

I’m still gonna hold out at least some hope cause if 3D World can get Boweser’s fury, we could get Luigi’s side story

[@newmnsilver]

Glad I still kept the original gc version! Also, a great remake example that I would pay for: Resident Evil 2 and 4 Remake. Still kept the original material (majority of it), tweaked and added new material to the point where they felt like stand alones. Worth the full prices. Not a great remake example? Dead Space "Remake" which was essentially just a remaster. Not worth full pricing. Yes yes these are Capcom games, but I'm sharing these as examples :P

[@farbencut]

- “Grrrr, this game is a 20 year old game why is it 60$? Anyways I’ll pirate the original now.” - (Me) “Wait what, why?” - “Nintendo is so bad at game preservation you can’t even buy the game nowadays” - (Me) “We JUST talked about the remake. You yourself said it’s the 20 year old game” - “But it’s a completely different gameeeee” Shortened version of an actual discussion I had with someone online.

[@SwitchMoments]

NOW WHERE IS MY NEW MARIO & LUIGI GAME 😭

[@waffleboywonder8868]

Probably getting turned into a co op platformer after all it's called Mario and Luigi they don't have to be RPGs right?

[@pokepress]

While I’m not expecting the remake to be a sales flop or anything, I do get the impression that the hardcore TTYD fanbase is a bit over represented in the online gaming community and may not be fully reflective of the larger market. Then again, I’m also someone who thinks TTYD is just decent.

[@questionmarkquestionmarkques]

i dont think its worth 60$ as with most nintendo games however ttyd is probably one of the closest to reaching that level of quality

[@feliry]

Any paper mario fan would pay even more than this

[@NedsonMonteiro]

I really dont get why ppl are upset about Paper Mario TTYD remake being $60! Why can't we appreciate that Paper Mario TTYD is back! Who cares how much it costs? At least it aint over $100, tf? Let's be grateful🙏🏿 We have been BEGGING FOR A RETURN TO FORM PAPER MARIO FOR YEARS!!!

[@CitrusArchitect]

YES. It's got lots of content, and even if it didn't the quality of the game is enough for it to pick up at full price. It's ambitious, fun, quirky, and my favorite Nintendo game of all time. So yeah I'm a little biased but it is 100% worth it, trust me :)

[@slycooper759]

A 60 dollar price tag never stopped anyone

[@helloskittysuprise]

still gonna buy it but it should have been $40 tbh

[@Snrndnbfbdbfb]

I miss when brand new games were affordable for everyday people

[@chronicchronicling-jb8zz]

Between the two Luigi's Mansion being 60 is definitely more problematic. TTYD is an RPG, it's not something you're gonna complete in a weekend.

[@BadmanYT-1254]

Hopefully the new console will support Nintendo Land

[@TheDudeSama]

Annnd it's sold out on Amazon.

[@StaticIsJustOkAtGames]

mfw the triple A game has the regular triple A price

[@catborg780]

While i don't like it, as long as these re-releases aren't 70, I'll deal with it