Is The Timeline BROKEN? || FNaF Theory

[@Cxsonn]

FNaF3 is definitely talking about the FNaF1 location, because there's a source code thing that says "Five Nights at Freddy's 30 years later". Also Security Breach could be in the 2030s which solves a lot of problems. Edwin is still broken though regardless of anything. His age is a paradox in general.

[@azimuddin1890]

If its broken, then we need to put it back together, LolBit.

[@Boigboi88]

I honestly still like the idea that both Frights and Tales are written in-universe by Fazbear Entertainment as a way to use their own history as a way to make money by making Goosebumps-like books. It would explain a lot of the game cabinets in the Pizzaplex having characters from Frights on them "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story" - Dusty Rhodes

[@Sing87eh]

That can't happen. It would actively go against the reason for in-universe content

[@thatoneguy609]

One possibility you don't seem to be considering is that events could have happened in the book timeline that are _similar, but not the same_ as what's seen in the games. The fire referenced in the Stingers is obviously _invoking_ FFPS, but I wouldn't call it a perfect match either. For starters, how would they have even recovered William's charred body or the Puppet's mask when SB shows that the corridors they were trapped in were deep below the pizzeria? Especially considering that the Tales epilogues make it clear that there's no big hole in the middle of the dining room prior to the place getting built over, and the story describes the characters looking all over for possible exits only to find nothing, let alone any kind of secret entrance to the underground corridors. And why would absolutely nothing remain of Scraptrap in William's appearance in Room 1280? He's even described with both arms. On top of this, William Afton is known to have died at the site of the fire, and is referenced by Larson as a known serial killer, even "notorious for wearing a bunny suit". The first issue with this is that from the rest of the world's perspective, Afton would have disappeared decades prior when he returned to the FNAF1 location and died in the Spring Bonnie suit. Even if the public was somehow aware of Springtrap/Scraptrap (in which case I can't imagine he would've survived very long), why would they have any idea that he was Afton? The second issue is that nothing is supposed to have ever been proven in a court of law, and in the games Afton's reputation is even intact enough for a company bearing his name (Afton Robotics) to continue operating and producing robotic children's entertainers even after the MCI. This really wouldn't make any sense if he was actually seen by the public as a killer. Let it also be noted that the layout of the FFPS location as described in the epilogues is very different to what's seen in the games; there's this whole arched main hallway leading to a bunch of other staff-only rooms that straight-up doesn't exist in SB or HW2. Dittophobia has its own share of issues. Despite the Nightmare animatronics being said to run on a visible rail that runs through the FNAF4 bedroom, nothing of the sort is visible on the Private Room monitors in SL (and somehow I doubt the nightmare gas would affect the cameras). Not to mention that at the time Dittophobia takes place, CBE&R appears to have been abandoned while also still having Funtime animatronics in their designated rooms. Even if we assume these are replacements that were made after Ennard's escape, the story would still have to take place after SL, and despite that there is clearly no experiment taking place on the Private Room monitors either. Nothing ever happens in the FNAF4 bedroom throughout the entire night. And what's more, the FNAF4 gameplay is heavily tied to Mike due to little details like the hospital IV, the flowers and the reversed FNAF1 phone call. This directly conflicts with Dittophobia, which tells us that the FNAF4 house is a near-exact replica of the actual house that Rory lived in before he was kidnapped. This would mean that the experiment was specifically designed around the test subject, and yet it wouldn't make any sense for the FNAF4 protagonist to be Rory (especially considering that the Nightmare animatronics don't even behave the same; Rory is literally unable to win because they all attack him at once). To make a long story short, if Scott intended for these stories to line up with the games, he would need to have forgotten major details of his own lore. Which plenty of people seem happy to conclude, but I don't know what the point is of theorizing if we can just justify anything that doesn't work as "oh Scott's just really bad at his job and treats his own lore carelessly despite him having assured us that he doesn't".

[@Taro_Yanada]

That is why I stopped believing TalesGames, because the timeline it creates makes no sense. Because we have FNAF 6 happening in October, most likely between October 23rd and October 28th. Then, in FNAF VR and Cleithrophobia we see that the Pizzaplex began construction in December. So... there's only one month between October and December: November (I'm saying obvious things, I know). So, in Novmber lone, Silver Parasol games should make their game, then Help Wanted should happen (ignoring that it's implied to happen in May), all within one month. And it could happen, but it just doesn't seem what's being implied. Also, there's Help Wanted (Tales), which is said to happen in February. So that pokes another hole. Because, yes, the story COULD happen before FFPS, but I think it works better if it happens after FFPS. FE wouldn't risk to have more incidents with the animatronics before making the games. Besides, it's impossible for The Storyteller to take place in 2024, as, yes, it's 40 years after The Mimic, but we know The Storyteller to take place in March, but if the Pizzaplex opened in May, that would be impossible. The story should take place in March of 2025, which makes sense, Edwin can still have 64. And that's another problem: The Mimic happens in the 70's. No, it's not a theory, it's a fact. Edwin says he started his business in the early 70's, it's a fact. That means The Mimic happens between 1979 and 1976 ('75 at the extreme earliest). So saying it happens in the 80's is flat out lying. I've seen people say it's a mistake but... in a series where the time is NEVER stated, being this dates consistently brought up is NO mistake. Writter inconsistency cannot justify every inconsistency. So, we have that, but there's more. In GGY it is said how long GGY was working with each therapist, all together, we can conclude that GGY was in therapy during 2 years and 4 months. That makes no sense, as we can see in SB that there are only 16 CDs, 8 for Vanessa, and 8 for GGY. That means both were in therapy during only 8 weeks. But, okay, they might have been more that we just don't see because they're not imporant. But then you have the fact that the therapy CDs end alongside CoD AND the last emails from AR, as in all of them it's said that Vanessa is making a costume. But... according to GGY, Fazbear thought it would be a good idea to have the DLC be made 2 WHOLE YEARS after the game released. The game is already old for Ruin, so it's weird that they have. And that is, of course, without taking into account Frailty and Lally's Game. So, I believe Lally's Game to be more close to a representation of Shadow Freddy with the Fredbear Plush, but that's not the point. Lally's Game is directly connected to the Stitchline, as Lally's Trunk appears in one of Eleanor's memories. And Frailty is... well, Frailty. So Frailty completely messes with the Stitchwraith Stingers' epilogues ending, as the pendant is magically not in Larson's hands, but also is apparently still under Eleanor's influence. And Lally's Game has Eleanor alive. The issue is... Lally's Game apparently happens in the late 90's/early 2000's. This is evident for many details, such as the mention of technology getting more and more exploited, plus the weird mention of Casper, and the Pizzaplex from the story being a different Pizzaplex. There's a reddit post that made me realize all of this, so please look for it because it's really good. So, it stops conflicting with the Stitchline, but it conflicts with the games. If Cade is in his mid 20's, and he was a kid when he went to the Pizzaplex, then between the story there is at least a decade and a half gap. That would place Lally's Game Pizzaplex's opening in between 1980 and 1988. Yes, IN THE 80'S. Alongside the Freddy Fazbear's Pizza's. In the Stitchline, it could make sense, as FE had BIG pizza chains and some Pizzaplex here and there (obviously less advanced than the main Pizzaplex in Tales). So... there's THAT little detail. I would also mention that FFPS happening doesn't really mean ALL the rest of the games happened, or even that they happened the way we see in the games. There are stories like What We Found, which clearly show the Stitchline's version of FNAF 3. It is definitely different to FNAF 3, but it is similar enough to make the connection. Further implied by both the novels and the movie, we see that events between continuities are not 1:1, and some don't even happen. For example, FNAF 2 NEVER appears in Frights, nor the novels. So, there's the possibility that it didn't actually happen in the Stitchline, as the game (shown by this very fact that it never appeared again) is irrelevant for the story (at least not necessary for the other continuities). This idea opens the door for FNAF 3 or FFPS to take place in different points in the timeline (as you say, 2015 or 2017). Events can differ between continuities (hence why the proto-Pizzaplexes opening in the 80's can happen). The timeline of the books it's not broken, our understanding of it is.

[@Lightman0359]

While the evidence for it is scant, the FazProp [Fazbear Propaganda] hypothesis I keep mentioning could possibly rectify. In this specific case, the Tales books [like I posit the Frights books were with the real FNaF 3 location] are an in-universe merch series, possibly a weekly comic book, one story per week, with the Stingers/epilogues being a monthly bonus [basically the books we got are the omnibus collections that comics do for popular series or storylines]. The dates are intentionally wrong essentially, to sow this same confusion in the in-game universe [as stated the Scott/Rogue Indie Game Dev games were stated to be in HW1 by tape girl] FazProp also implies that the Fazbear Frights books were the same for Fazbear's Fright: a 1 per visitor weekly comic to attract visitors [or as a "DLC" for repeated play of in-universe FNaF3]

[@rafaelferreirademoraes3479]

The only way I can ser working is If The Mimic happens in 1987 and Mimic 2 is the Toy Animatronics. The only problem would be the customs, but you can handwave saying that Fazbear ent. dropped the designs in favor of the Toys design.

[@TranzFloofyBean]

Easy way to fix the Fnaf timeline just ask Loki to get all the branches and put it into another tree /j

[@TheUnrealRager]

9:38 I honestly think that 223 is February 23 because that could have been when the blueprints were made because I believe that lefty and scrap baby and molten freddy were created in the early 1990s in a newer version of circus baby's pizza world or entertainment and rentals or whatever and I still think fnaf 6 takes place before 2020

[@Ozeglion]

”HRY223” refers to the audio file that is playing, not to the blueprints on the screen Also Henry 100% built Lefty himself

[@playmaster_plus]

"It's not a problem with TalesGames, it's a problem with Tales" went kinda hard for some reason

[@PetraSheeley]

I don’t think Scott is doing all the math to calculate according to dates of things opening and closing and the story should rely more on the order of events. Also the ‘the first 4 games are just games’ can be used to explain any inconsistency with dates (for example fnaf 3 doesn’t actually have to be 30 years after the last Freddy’s closed)

[@spacealien3073]

Honestly my own solution, as imperfect as it may be is the location under the Pizzaplex may have the same layout as the FNAF 6 location but that's because the rogue indie game developer mentioned in the first Help Wanted based one of his games on said location. So yeah the events of FNAF 1 through 6 didn't happen (or at least they happened differently) in the Steel Wool set of games they took place in a different timeline. Its not like we haven't had parallel timelines in this franchise already with things Into the Pit and the FNAF movie. Hell there's a lot of stuff that could make more sense if there's more than one timeline here. Like Gltichtrap being a weird OC the Mimic made up doesn't make a lot of in universe sense so if it turns out that's the outfit Steel Wool's version of Afton used rather than a springlock suit then its like "Oh so that's why he was like that! Very clever stuff A+".

[@Fredboyos]

Loved the video intro before the actual intro, also you forgot What We Found mentions Fazbear's Fright lmao.

[@Fredboyos]

@Sonicmid The beginning of the story literally states "Fazbear’s Fright Horror Attraction."

[@Wizardjones69]

@@Fredboyos "30 years after the tragedy that took its place"

[@Fredboyos]

@@Wizardjones69 Huh?

[@Songal18]

Take care and rest your throat. Very interesting working out that for things to happen in the books they need to have happened in the games.

[@dillydraws]

I think the moment the main story ended and Scott then tried inserting a new character as the most important child with basically no game lore and taking a role that is easily filled (and was filled in the movie) of a way more important character is when the timeline truly broke.

[@kashveltri5092]

I just assume that Scott didn't fact-check the dates in Tales for one reason or another, and therefore, they are inaccurate. I feel like I remember one of the writers of Tales saying something like this at some point or something, but it might just be me miss remembering stuff.

[@kashveltri5092]

It's not like it would be the first time Scott ended up not fact-checking the books, leading to them having misinformation. Far from it. Just look at any of the guide books, and you'll see what I mean.

[@eiscreme3116]

@kashveltri5092 You mean the character book thingy?

[@CainG2005]

If security breach is in the 2100s, wouldn’t that make Cassie’s dad like 100 and something since he’s implied to be the bonnie bully and Jeremy Fitzgerald?

[@TheUnrealRager]

I'm just saying: how do we know Henry dies in fnaf 6? He could have been at home at the time of the fire and just activated it from his home or something, I believe he survived the fire so Edwin could still be a parallel to henry

[@CainG2005]

“I’am remaining as well, I’am nearby” - Henry

[@Cxsonn]

Even if Scott says something about the books it won't ever end

[@scratchv1nce766]

Most likely, yeah.

[@rafkenjakistam3082]

Yea I'm pretty sure Scott forgot about the dates. He just made a sequence of events without adding years to them

[@tomast7339]

many people will dissagree with me, but sometimes, we need to igno broken timelines like this I'm a huge fan of Pretty little liars and the timeline there is a mess. episode 13 of season 3 is taking place on Halloween of 2012. episode 12 of season 5 is taking place on thanksgiving of the same year so it's supposed to be two weeks and a half. however between those two episodes we have 48 episodes and almost every episodes is a day or two which so many things happened during this time. the fandom calls this "The never-ending November" same thing with FNAF. we just got a broken timeline and sadly we have to live with this

[@jonathanhibberd9983]

"Broken" implies that there was ever a coherent, whole timeline in the first place. I would bet money there wasn't. This has never felt like a planned out coherent story. It's always felt like a disjointed combination of ideas mashed together.

[@DavidN-fy1gi]

I personally believe fnaf 3 takes place in 2013. The whole 30 year gap was from Freddy’s closing in 1983 when the original murders happened. Not to mention the “Epic Face” meme is plastered all over the walls in fnaf 3. This would make Fnaf 3 take place 10 years after Fnaf 1, and if you think about it, this makes a lot more sense because think about how old Henry, Micheal and everyone would be if they stuck around until 2023. They’d all be very old.

[@CainG2005]

1985 is when the mci happened. Fnaf 1 takes place in 1992/1993. Not 2003, and if it’s about the 20 years thing that phone guy says, it’s most likely a hyperbole or something about fallfest. Fnaf 3 most likely takes place in 2023.

[@blocks4857]

​@CainG2005 fnaf 1 is a failed business. Remember that Fazbear's Fright is based on the legends of the 1985 pizzeria, so fnaf 3 taking place in 2015 makes more sense than 2023

[@zeldristhecactus1304]

I personaly believe this 8:20

[@MJPlushYT]

Yes it is

[@TheUnrealRager]

5:53 can I just ask you, how do we know that the pizza plex and the fnaf 6 pizzeria don't exist at the same time? I mean, it's definitely possible, and fnaf 6 doesn't have to take place in 2023, in fact, if fnaf 3 has been revealed to be set in 2017, the fnaf 6 pizzeria could be in 2017, 2018 or 2019. Just saying

[@CainG2005]

The pizzaplex is built over the fnaf 6 pizzeria

[@TheUnrealRager]

@@CainG2005 yes, the one from the games is, but the books are set in a different pizza plex

[@thedarkdevil1661]

I think Fnaf 3 is in march 2015 (30 years after the MCI + The logbook "real value" clue giving a 23 year gap between the fnaf 1 era and Fnaf 3) and Fnaf PS is in dec 2017 (the weeks the respective games released). 8:37 also the only place with the "childhood memories" is the first place, as Fnaf 2 only lasted about 2 weeks, and Fnaf 1's pizzeria was so unpopular, due to the first location, they had to go bankrupt the same year fnaf 1 happened. 8:58 as I mentioned earlier I believe the games happen the same week they released, so Fnaf 3 happens on Monday 2nd March 2015. 2/23 (Feb 23rd) is exactly 1 week (the Monday) before March 2nd. This definitely explains why Henry never mentions Springtrap. Or it could be people thinking Nessie97 means Vanessa's birthday is September 7th, but with Henry and his birthday instead. This "it takes place the week it released" theory has been the case since fnaf 2, with nov 11th being night 4 in fnaf 2, plus fnaf 4 being released in july and it being implied to be summer in the flashbacks. I also think the storyteller is in early 2021 (the year Edwin would turn 65, instead of the year he turns 64), giving a good 2-3 years for the pizzaplex to be built and open the year before the storyteller. If he turns 24 in mid 1980, then he'll only turn 65 in mid 2021, and i believe the storyteller is said to take place early in the year, meaning he'd still be 64 despite it.

[@CainG2005]

1. The logbook is most likely meta and doesn’t take place in either fnaf 1 or 3. 2. The fnaf 1 location is the old Freddy location that closed in 1985 when the mci happened. 3. Or 223 could literally just be 2023 shortened just like how Henry’s name is shortened plus he’s literally talking about follow me in the insanity ending which is shown as a mini game in fnaf 3 with 2023 as the year of the game. 4. Plus, Scott said we solved fnaf 1-3 with 1993 and 2023 being the general consensus for fnaf 1 and 3’s years and the source code teaser for fnaf 3 “five nights at freddy’s, 30 years later, only one” pretty much confirms its 2023. Also we didn’t know the year of the mci back when fnaf 3 released so why would Scott add a random year that would basically be impossible to solve at the time and make it 30 years after that date. And remember, fnaf 3 was meant to be the last game so fnaf 1-3 is a complete story. Tales is most likely canon but was not year checked. Even the accepted 2024 date for when security breach takes place when assuming fnaf3 2015 doesn’t work as it doesn’t align with the calendar seen in the game (with July 4th being on a Wednesday) which only works with 2029, 2035, 2046 etc.

[@thedarkdevil1661]

@CainG2005 1. Yes, IK, but then that basically means none of it would be canon. Including Cassidy talking to CC, which then makes the Stitchwraith being a GF parrallel mute too. 2. Yes, it is. But it was closed after the MCI, reopened as the Fnaf 2 location, and then they moved back to the old location, which stayed open until the early 1990s until it went bankrupt from limited customers. 3. Soooo you're saying.... "HRY knows about Follow me, which happened in the 1990s, therefore Fnaf 3 has to happen before HRY223 since he would've only learnt about Follow me in Fnaf 3, since Follow me happened in Fnaf 3"............Soooo Follow me happened in Fnaf 3? So it happened in 2015/2023? Noooppee. It happened YEARS before Fnaf 3, so of course Henry could've figured out what happened before Fnaf 3. What does Henry knowing about follow me have anything to do with when Fnaf 3 takes place? 4. Please tell me where Scott said we solved Fnaf 1-3. As the only evidence, before AR's scrapped email for Fnaf 1 = 1993 (specially 1993, not just early 1990s) is "Matpat: The IRL murders happened in December of that year" I believe it's 1992 due to Fnaf 2's Sun to Thursday shift, and Fnaf 3 saying Mike's been there at least since Sunday (the day before the weekend end/the day before Fnaf 3 started on Monday). Meaning a Sun-Thurs Shift for Fnaf 1 would mean it happens in 1992. As for the calendar, it also lines up with 2018 and 2023 (a year with Jan 1st at the start and has 28 days in December), with 2018 being the year I believe the Pizzaplex began construction, and 2023 being the possible year of Security Breach if Fnaf 3 is 2015. (2023 for this uses the Sunday -> Saturday Calendar. And 2018/2029 would use a Monday -> Sunday Calendar.)

[@CainG2005]

@@thedarkdevil1661 1. Logbookmeta just means that it’s not an in universe item but is used to solve the lore. 2. And? That still doesn’t debunk the 30 years 3. No I’m saying that something shown in fnaf 3 (the game) as a minigame, and then Henry talking about it with “hry223” in the corner with 2023 being the most commonly accepted date for fnaf 3. It could be a coincidence but it’s all a bit iffy. 4. It was a steam post i think responding to one of matpat’s vids and talking about how no one solved fnaf 4’s story 4. Except those years don’t have a July 4th on a Wednesday whereas 2029 and 2035 and 2046 etc do.

[@CainG2005]

@@thedarkdevil1661 and the July 4th is circled in the calendar. Steel Wool and Scott want us to look at the date for a reason.

[@thedarkdevil1661]

@CainG2005 Ya. Why would they an American company circle American "independence day"???

[@Oreo-kv4gc]

Yes

[@Luigifan305]

First off, 2023 doesn't work as "30 years later" in the first place because FNaF 1 was never in 1993 to begin with. The only reason the community latched onto that year was because Matpat's first FNaF theory was about comparing the game to an irl murder that took place that year, and then when people compared the in-game date to the calendar for November that year, the week ended on a Friday so they figured that it lined up. But then FNaF 2 explicitly confirmed that Fazbear Entertainment signs their weekly checks on Thursdays, meaning that ever since FNaF 2 released, FNaF 1 has been CONFIRMED to have taken place in 1992 instead and people just seemed to gloss over that fact. Next, there's the "real value" code in the Survival Logbook which, when solved using FNaF 1's proper date of 1992, shows that Michael was indeed writing in this book in 2015. The only time he would have this book with images of the FNaF 3 office in it is either during FNaF 3 itself, or maybe during FNaF 6 at the latest, since it was later "found and re-gifted" to us, the irl reader. Plus, no Freddy Fazbear's Pizzas closed before 1985, so FNaF 3 obviously couldn't be set BEFORE 2015 at the absolute earliest, but all of this additional evidence more or less confirms that it had to be in 2015 exactly. So yes, like it or not, "30 year later" is absolutely referring to the closing of the ORIGINAL Freddy's, because any other alternative is now impossible with the facts we have. In addition, it's extremely likely that FNaF AR takes place in 2020, considering Vanessa is 23 at the time and has 97 in her username. FNaF AR is clearly after HW1 since Vanessa is corrupted by Glitchtrap by then, and HW1 is confirmed to be after FNaF 6 because FNaF is confirmed to be one of the events that have an in-universe indie game based on them. So yeah, FNaF 6 CANNOT happen in 2023. It's most likely in 2015 with FNaF 3, since Mike also draws a grave when asked where he'll be in one year, implying that he knows he's gonna die soon. To put it bluntly, the only way to prevent an unresolvable contradiction here is if the 223 in HRY223 DOESN'T mean 2023. Heck, we already know that he has other audio logs in the same game, so CLEARLY that wasn't the only one he made and played during that entire year. Instead, it probably just means that Henry has made at least 223 of these logs in total, over the course of designing and enacting his plan. All the other logs we hear probably have similar but slightly different numbers assigned to them, and we just don't see them since they're not being played straight from the computer like 223 is. Finally, we know from in-game calendars that Security Breach can only take place in a select handful of years (specifically ones where March 9th is on a Friday). The first post-2015 option would be 2018, but that would contradict several things, the biggest of which being Vanessa's timeline of events, so that's out. Due to leap year shenanigans, we don't get another viable year until 2029, making that the absolute earliest that SB could take place. There are other years that might technically be possible, like 2035, 2040, and so on, but the more we stretch things out, the worse they line up, so 2029 is our best bet. In conclusion, when you take ALL the evidence into account, The Storyteller being in 2020 does in fact work, so long as you aren't put off by the idea that the Pizzaplex has been around for nearly a decade by the time of SB. But hey, that would give them plenty of time to gradually change the many minor things that differ between the books and the game, like how Glamrock Chica apparently changed from classic yellow to the current white design.

[@Wizardjones69]

the only way to work the timeline is put fnaf 3 on 2015 and fnaf 6 on 2016 (also fnaf 1 doesn't really take place on 1993 when the logbook real value code puts fnaf 3 on 2015 and fnaf 1 on 1992, fnaf 2 have a definitive date, 1987, in jeremy's first paycheck is on a thursday, if its the same for fnaf 1, it puts on 1992) 1945: William Afton and Henry Emily are born 1958: Edwin murray is born 1967: Afton first son is born, Micheal Afton 1972: His second son is born, Garret afton Henry Emily children are born, twins: Charlotte Emily and Sammy emily 1974: William Afton and Henry Emily fought together at the vietnam war, they became friends, this was the start point of afton obsession with pain from other people, he love murdering people in vietnam, a obssesion he had to lock until 1983. 1977: Fredbear's family diner is opened Fall fest events are made 1979: Edwin first and only son is born, Davic Murray, sadly fionna has died after david's birth 1980: William Afton third child is born, Elizabeth Afton 1983: Freddy Fazbear's pizza is opened Fredbear and friends show is aired, and fazbear enterprises made merch about the band take cake to the children/security puppet minigame (october 30) Fall fest 83 burns down (october 31) fnaf 4 nightmares cc pov fnaf 4 minigames (modified memories, because of cassidy plushie and his "friends") (sammy is there to, he being the "plushtrap street kid") (and Garret died with 12 years old) Fredbear and friends show is cancelled Fredbear's family diner closed down Henry is divorced and lost his son (sammy) 1984: fnaf 3 first tapes explaining how to wear springlock suits Freddy and friends is aired The Mimic (tales story) 1985: B-7 (part I-II) fnaf sl elizabeth lines between nights circus baby pizza world minigame fnaf sl "cancelled" article Afton builts a bunker and puts circus baby and the other animatronics there, the bunker would be opened in 1987 for rental parties fnaf 3 "multiple springlock failures" tape gumdrop angel find player 2! Twisted wolf/susie fruit maze Little jeremy is abandoned at freddy's because of his parents toy bonnie/jeremy puppet/gabriel Midinight motorist second mimic line up sees afton stuffing Gabriel alive in Freddy Fazbear animatronic Funtime foxy/fritz Freddy/cassidy Pig patch/Andrew fnaf 3 tape about the springbonnie costume being "moved" fnaf 1 first article fnaf 1 second article afton is charged but freed, he is later fired, when he comes home, he kills his wife stuffing her remains in a box with 2 locks GGGL fnaf 2 cutscenes All of the mci agony that was kept in the ballpit creates shadow freddy/agony demon/eleanor, the other side of that agony from the mci souls became shadow bonnie fnaf 3 night 6 tape fnaf 1 third article Freddy and friends is cancelled Freddy fazbear's pizza closes down (The events that took place there have become nothing more than a rumor and a childhood memory) 1986: coming home Fnaf 2 location is made, with the classics retrofited with the endo 02 and so it turns into "unwithereds" Foxy GO GO GO location closes in 1 or 2 days 1987: Freddy fazbear's pizza Grand re-opening with kid friendly robots and facial recognition save them fnaf 2 night 6 article night 7 (14 november 1987, duane/phone dude uses the name of fritz smith and tampers with the toys facial recognition and steal some spare parts, he works there because he heard about the rumours/investigation) bite of 87 (14 november 1987) Freddy fazbear's pizza closes down fnaf sl intro Circus baby's entertainment and rentals is opened to the public for rental private parties in their homes chica's party world is a location used for that rental services, using the toy chica or funtime chica animatronic 1990-1992: Freddy's re-opens with the classics with the old endo 01 from the 1985 designs dittophobia fnaf the week before (upcoming book) phone guy stuffed in golden freddy by the 4 main animatronics, he uses "its me" to communicate fnaf 1 fnaf 1 fourth article The last freddy fazbear's pizza is closed 1995 (find player 2! 10 years time skip): sergio's lucky day 1997: William Afton fourth and last child is born, Vanessa Afton 2001 (dittophobia 10 years time skip and b-7 time skip): blackbird together forever the breaking well The new kid (agony demon/shadow freddy/eleanor tries to assume the form of the girl cassidy, the demon uses the name and figure of "kelsey") You are the band follow me Andrew attachs into afton keeping him alive while torturing him over and over again fnaf sl bad ending fnaf sl custom night minigames fnaf sl custom night final cutscene room for one more 2015: felix the shark fnaf 4 nightmares mike pov what we found fnaf survival logbook fnaf 3 (bad ending) night 6 article 2016: the puppet carver pizza sim (lore keeper ending/complete ending) ultimate custom night Cassidy wants to andrew stop keeping afton alive, she ended up in omc lake 2018: sammy emily became ceo of fazbear entertainment the man in the room 1280 1:35 am Freddy's locations re-opens friendly face he told me everthing hide and seek lonely freddy kids at play the cliffs the bunny call The real jake pizza kit step closer jump for tickets out of stock fetch 2019: help wanted (tales story) the scoop in the flesh prankster help wanted (the game/all the tapes ending) fnaf AR special delivery (trailer, emails + shadow bonnie only) Sea Bonnies circus baby pizza world re-opens dance with me count the ways 2020: jeff's pizza opens for the public (june 12th) into the pit (june 26th) To be Beautiful The Stitchwraith Stingers all freddy's and circus baby pizza locations are closed down for good fnaf hw curse of dreadbear (vanny mask ending with springbonnie plush/sb pizzaplex teaser) tales epilogues cleithrophobia 2021: frailty under construction happs pressure 2022: the storyteller tiger rock nexie the monty within drowning submechanophobia somniphobia animatronic apocalypse bleeding heart GGY 2023 (third year of pizza plex being open for the plublic): Alone together The bobbiedots (part I-II) security breach (base game/PQ ending) 2024: help wanted 2 (PQ 4 ending first/mask bot ending last) fnaf world, cc being the protagonist, fredbear plush is cassidy fnaf 3 happiest day (possibly) fnaf sb ruin (elevator ending) 2041: lally's game

[@CainG2005]

Security breach has to take place in either 2029 or 2035 as the calendar seen in the game matches those years. Also a majority of this timeline is headcanon, like there’s no evidence Henry and William fought in the Vietnam war lmao 💀

[@Wizardjones69]

@@CainG2005 the party room 4 referencing happiest day saying "40s years old" 40 years since fnaf the bite

[@CainG2005]

@@Wizardjones69 no, that’s about someone’s 40th birthday which is seen on the daycare whiteboard.

[@Wizardjones69]

@@CainG2005 with the happiest day references all over 1983 + 40= 2023

[@CainG2005]

@@Wizardjones69 except the calendar seen in security breach debunks 2023 as being as a possible year for the game to take place, and the mci didn’t happen in 1983, it happened in 1985, which would make it 2025 which is also not a possible year. The years security breach has to take place in is either 2029 or 2035 as they align with the calendar.

[@mikes8995]

I'm a believer that FNAF 3 and 6 take place in 2023. However, I think you misinterpreted what was stated in 'The Mimic'. The story states that Edwin got his patent for the robotic vacuum cleaner when he was a college student, yes, and it also states that it sold enough to allow Edwin to start his business out of school. This means after he was done with his college education. It's weird how it's worded as "right out of school", implying right out of high school, but it actually means right out of college. Which means his business doesn't necessarily have to start in the early Seventies like 1974. It most likely started in 1979, assuming 'The Mimic' story takes place in 1984 after Fredbears' shut down in 83'. You're my favorite fnaf theorist, and I have nothing but respect for you for all your hard work. I just thought I'd share my opinion on this subject.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

the issue with that is that Edwin is 24 in the storyteller and started his business 5 years prior, meaning when he was 19, and that by extension means the Early 70s was also 5 years ago, because it is explicitely stated that he DID start the business in the early 70s. Also, unless he finished college in one year that wouldnt make sense anyway.

[@Wizardjones69]

​@@ImpulseEvan37the problem is that the "24 years old" is because of fionna's death as said on storyteller Fionna has died when he was 24 years old, so he is a little older on the mimic story 26-28 years old

[@ImpulseEvan37]

As I said in the video, the mimic story does NOT refer to the “first” 24 years, it said NEARLY ALL of his 24 years, meaning he is CURRENTLY 24

[@Wizardjones69]

@@ImpulseEvan37 its said that in a scene that goes back and forth between the present and reminiscing on the past the storyteller says that edwin was 24 years old when his life was full of promise before his wife fiona had died, but in the mimic fiona had died 4 years ago so edwin should be 28 years old edwin being 24 on the mimic would mean that he graduated with 19 years old at college, which isn't likely so the 24 years line is indeed part of a flashback

[@sonixx3272]

Imo the timeline broke once illusion discs and TFC became a thing.

[@tylamcgilverson3923]

Yea fnaf six takes place in like 2015

[@dillydraws]

why?

[@orliag218]

I dont think 223 is year 2023 for 1 reason. It is really stupid way name a file. Like really, only 1 file a year

[@dillydraws]

It's not stupid especially when it comes to documenting things like a journal or game files. It's not 1 file a year, but multiple that is sorted into years. Like this Hry223_1 Hry223_2 Hry224_1 And so on and so on.

[@1SpeedyYoshi]

This all gets solved if you just believe fnaf 3 and 6 arent in 2023

[@bossco839]

You have to ignore the "Five Nights at Freddy's 30 years later" to do that

[@davlikefish86]

literally. 2015 and 2017 work

[@c.r.blankenship9040]

All of these problems are solved if you don’t assume Fnaf 3 and PizzaSim are in 2023, which there’s no reason to do. Fnaf 3 most likely happens in 2015 so that fixes all the Edwin problems

[@CainG2005]

2015 doesn’t fix Edwin’s problems. The earliest security breach can happen is 2018 due to 2018, 2029, 2035 etc matching the calendar in security breach but assuming mimic70s, the storyteller happens in 2019 and since the pizzaplex is around 4.75 years (or even 2 years 10 months) it doesn’t work. The writers for Tales most likely just messed up the years.

[@Fredboyos]

I will also disagree with the FNaF 6 audio thing. I still believe it isn't the year. Another thing to point out about it is the "..." after HRY223, which would fit with Scott not being exactly clear about when the game takes place, making "223", as you mentioned, February 23rd. I might be stubborn about it but I'll believe that unless it's confirmed otherwise.

[@Wizardjones69]

i don't see how the february 23 theory is useless for the plot when it could mean that one year have passesed since fnaf 3 events (so it takes place on 2016), fnaf 3 is stated to be on march, so one year has to pass after fnaf 3

[@elioridacow]

Yes