Is The UFC In Decline?

[@Beefytiing]

when you price your fans out to only be influencers, tik tokers, and celebrities, then of course it's going to decline.

[@joshuanederstigt3463]

Don't forget oil sheiks and billionair CEO'S

[@fernandovalencia5411]

This is what I’ve been saying. UFC events are rich people affairs now. $300 tickets would get you decent mid section seats pre 2020 now it’s $400 for NOSEBLEEDS. Beers cost $19 dry ass pretzels are like $15 dollars. The only way you can really enjoy a live event is to be financially well off, play big game and gamble and pray your lucky stars your parley hits other wise you’re down another -$300 or -$500 in gambling and even if your bets do hit you’ll be lucky to break even with ticket plus drink and food costs. Nelk boy OF Model culture ruined this sport.

[@Suhmstank]

The nba seams to be doing fine

[@megamanxhunter]

@@fernandovalencia5411 The UFC has turned into a government contractor.

[@romeds848]

@@Suhmstank Wdym?

[@antonio_carvalho]

Dana White gets mad when people talk about Aspinall instead of Jon Jones. The UFC nowadays is not only bad at creating and promoting new stars, but actively working against it.

[@josip342]

Great point, fans like the guy who is winning and has like 10 years of career in front of him but Dana is shutting it down in favour of a guy with one fight in last 5 years and plans to retire after the next one. Whats the logic with that

[@ayoitscris]

He's being too much like his buddy Vince with that mindset

[@thequinlanshow3326]

​@@josip342 Aspinall has maybe three years left 😂😂 ten years lmaoooooooo

[@DeanDangerousTDD7]

The fact that the UFC tried to convince the fans that Stipe Miocic would be the best opponent for Jones after he won the heavy weight title instead of Aspinall was a huge red flag for me. Aspinall vs Jones for the title was definitely the fight to make but for some reason the UFC acted like it wasn't. This shows that the UFC is either outta touch with their fan base or that they are trying to make CorporateMain$tream happy. Either way, the UFC needs to get back to focusing on competition instead of entertainment or they will lose a huge portion of their fan base. ((((& this comment is coming from an American & even I wanted to see Aspinall get his deserved shot at fighting for the title. I like Stipe & all but him vs Jones for the title, that just simply didn't make much sense.)))) American Intermediary Documentary 08/30/2024

[@SavageSaffa]

He just wants his “Floyd”. The guy that “no one could beat”

[@jmarfree7947]

I used to stay up for UFC fights, but ever since they raised prices, I stopped watching no more losing sleep for decision wins. I just watch the next morning for free!

[@hitleractually8180]

Same here....I'll occasionally watch live, since I'm up with a baby anyway, but mostly I torrent the fight the next morning.....fast forwards through all the bullshit, skip over the lame fights....cuts my 5 hour card (prelims + main card) down to about 2 hrs.

[@chillinwithluis]

How?

[@NabilBelajag]

Piracyyyy

[@nickr7703]

That’s not the issue, the issue is the environment Dana is building for the fans

[@Brittany-x8e]

No more staying up for decision wins...nailed it their

[@pancho8708]

I’ve skipped so many ufc fight nights

[@luckyspurs]

It's wild; Mike Heck was trying to sell Burns v Brady as a much better fight night than we've had most of the year. It's got Jessica Andrade co-main and Kyle Nelson in the 3rd biggest fight. And Burns is kind of washed too to be honest. It's a rubbish Fight Night card.

[@Aaron-fx5so]

@@luckyspurs Bro... That fight night is stacked, may not be as stacked as something like Cory vs Umar but it has some of the most anticipated prospects fighting on the card. Also Steve Garcia vs Kyle Nelson is a fire matchup that will be an absolute banger, if you arent excited about a steve garcia fight then I would suggest sticking to the PPVs and the PPVs only. There is so many fight nights you couldve talked shit about lmao. Fucking Steve garcia and Trever peek on the same card and your fucking complaining cause theres a women co main.

[@NewDesignVinylGraphics]

​@@Aaron-fx5sowho gives a fuck about Cory vs Umar bruh, cards from 10 years ago were legendary compared to now, there's nobody interesting at lhw and hw, even middleweight is kinda lame now

[@andywang3846]

Same. I used to never miss a single event. I miss when they put title fights on fight nights😂

[@pancho8708]

@@NewDesignVinylGraphics these are new fans. They don’t know about ufc 100 and 200

[@sandeshupreti6600]

UFC is too expensive for real fans. Too much of celebs , tik tokers and podcast ruining UFC. No one buys PPV , stadium is always out of reach, and Dana love’s sponsorship…

[@BrutalCalfKick]

I’ve got COVID and decided to catch up on last weekends fight night about half way through I turned it off because I was sick of skipping commercials 😂

[@ryanbaker8669]

This is literally a copy paste of what someone else said. Boxing has always had celebs and influencers but every day people can also go too. They aren’t mutually exclusive. You’re wrong

[@yomomma8791]

Only fight nights are affordable tbh

[@BrutalCalfKick]

@@ryanbaker8669 I think hes referring specifically to the sphere event. Typical UFC tickets aren’t that expensive in general if you don’t get front row seats but the sphere tickets 2-6k each. Honestly, you could probably get nose bleed tickets at a normal UFC event for cheaper than their PPV.

[@kingjoseph5901]

Yup, Dana's turned it into an elitist sport. All the rich come to watch where most fighters aren't paid shite

[@Scorch1028]

When your entire sport is pay-per-view, and you’re competing with sports that are on regular TV, then eventually your sport is going to decline.

[@Xmasta420]

They really had 2 great setups with Spike and then Fox. I used to be able to consistently catch fights, follow my favorites, it was perfect. Then they switch to ESPN plus and it's nearly impossible to even know where to watch a fight. I need to sign up and pay for an app to get the prelims or undercard, then pay damn near $90 for the actual main card. It's insane and killed so much of my interest in the UFC

[@puffdutchtwo]

None of this is valid stream everything free especially UFC never know when a fight will be a dud

[@holdenbaldassi3697]

@@Xmasta420methstreams thank me later

[@Trozenator]

We are in the age of “these WILL be your stars and you WILL like them”

[@midwestyle]

Exactly

[@slayermill8621]

This is what happens when there's an event each week. The "stars" sort of have to be manufactured because the UFC has to pump up the fights somehow, especially when it's someone who may be on the rise but we've never heard of.

[@natural20_]

great way to put it

[@mikkey87]

This here. The problem is it's not who is the best fighter anymore, it's who can the UFC make the most money off of.

[@nitrox1613]

Dana “Fink” White 😂

[@NapoleonBlownapartMMA]

Its kind of the UFC's own fault, they're terrified of creating stars like Conor who can dictate terms to the company, and they've been ridiculously complacent in regards to the quality of the card this year. 2024 is the worst year i can think of for UFC cards that weren't 300.

[@ernestkhalimov3901]

299 was great

[@eIcucuy]

All the ppvs were great except for 297 but most of the fight nights sucked

[@alexmartin3143]

Hey i know you.

[@toph_toff974]

if they fed Connor to khabib 2-3 years earlier.. this whole Connor era would've never existed... Id rather have true boring champions than manufactured superstars. This aint wwe ffs.

[@TheElbowMerchant]

'Sup, Nap. Thanks for the hours upon hours of great content, my dude.

[@attiylanen]

Yes it is. Boring cards, boring fighters, boring fights. There's only a few interesting and entertaining fighters left.

[@Sam-vh9zs]

Yup. Lost interest when Conor retired. He made it fun and exciting. Call me simple minded, but it’s true.

[@firdaus125]

@@Sam-vh9zs did you also start getting interested in UFC when Conor started his UFC stint?

[@Sam-vh9zs]

@@firdaus125not really. I’ve been watching ufc casually with my dad since the early 2000s. Mcgregor was during a period when I was old enough to really start appreciating the entertainment value.

[@bricktop.]

I actually agree with this, all the fighters have all the same skill sets these days. Theres no style VS style fight anymore. Everyones style is MMA . Ngannous gone with his nuclear KO power, Reems retired. Cain's retired, Anderson Silva retired, Conor is retired, the only actual money draw they seem to have is JBJ and he's refusing to fight anyone that might actually fight back. This whole thing will sadly dry up in the next few years I think.

[@gc8328]

I’m not racist but I just can’t watch these corny and boring muslim fighters with no charisma who endlessly make everything about religion.

[@Mostusernamesaretakn]

I think one issue is inactivity. Outside of Poatan, none of the big names fight more than two times per year.

[@TheBadash44]

This is a huge issue. I believe champs should have to defend their belts, health permitting, at least once every 6-9 months.

[@Dracon7601]

Two times for a champion isn't that low though, the biggest problem is no one outside the top is able to grow and become a star in a lot of the divisions.

[@Seeloknya_Sebaiknya]

This is individual sports. So mostly depends on fighters conditions. So if champ don't have any issue, they can fight 3 times or 4 times per year..

[@Mostusernamesaretakn]

@@Dracon7601 not just champs, but also contenders. Bo Nickal fought for 38 seconds then had his next match almost 10 months later. Look at women’s mma, it’s been a slog because there’s no movement. Grasso has been super inactive. Suarez has been battling injuries. Weilie isn’t very active. O Malley was content to wait for a shot, so was Topuria. And now Strickland is doing the same thing. Too many examples.

[@philosopher1130]

Yea the whole “ima sit and wait for a title shot and a title shot only” is the lamest shit ever, especially for someone trying to convince the world that they’re the “best” 🤷🏽‍♂️ if you think you’re the best and no one can beat you, and at the same time the champ is either recovering or has a fight of their own, you should be willing to fight anyone and everyone to prove without a doubt that you deserve that #1 spot. As soon as they say they wanna wait and not fight tile a title shot is given, that kinda shows that they’re nervous to lose their spot cuz they aren’t truly confident that they’re the best. They jus wanna take the chance as fast as possible. That’s jus my opinion tho.

[@ronswanson1410]

Roster is too bloated, stakes aren’t that high with main events, and the Boss who answers to the public doesn’t show a reasonable standard for evaluating his own roster against what the fans want

[@NewDesignVinylGraphics]

firing a ton of veterans that were making bank and brining in regional contender series guys is the worst decision Dana ever made

[@Rosa_percs]

There is waaaaay to many fighters on the roster damn near half of them need to go

[@LiLChapo1]

@@Rosa_percs

[@ramonsalazar32]

he only care about glazing jones

[@Sean-zz2lj]

So true, fights that dont mean anything aren't appealing to most. These days you have no names fighters in there hard sparring just wanting their win bonus

[@superdupermart1669]

There are no 'fighters' anymore like Rampage, Chuck, Wanderlei, GSP, Silva. There are only athletes now with little to no killer instinct

[@MBryy]

Facts

[@Keno313]

Too much stalling and point fighting. Clowns like Sterling shouldn't even be in the org. They need to make the last round of main event fights unlimited until there's a finish.

[@bachiwar6555]

i like athletes much better now, all of those guys had shit technique and were slow af

[@Kambejammin]

Alex is nice

[@valinor5397]

I don't even watch UFC and I know who Chuck Liddell is. Couldn't name a single fighter now

[@LgnSknks541]

UFC doing the WWE move. Make the brand the selling point and never let another star become bigger than the promotion so they can't leave and make money without the company.

[@TheJrockfreak]

Couldnt agree more

[@georgewitts7832]

But that doesn't even work. Look at The Rock, Cena, and Roman.

[@TheTrueBatBrain]

​@@georgewitts7832 They allow one at a time. But also notice that Roman hasn't left (Hobbs and Shaw doesn't count considering The Rock is in it), Roman is WWE and WWE is Roman. And John is still very much a company guy. WWE seem to be built around stopping another Rock from happening without them getting first refusal and a cut

[@georgewitts7832]

@TheTrueBatBrain John is a company man but isn't a wrestler anymore and hasn't been for a long time, and I can guarantee Roman will be going to Hollywood within the next 3 years.

[@TheTrueBatBrain]

@@georgewitts7832 He's just come back for a retirement tour, he's been a part timer and is definitely trading off of "wrestler turned actor" more than The Rock did

[@trevorpb16]

The UFC does not want superstars with leverage. They want a controlled roster of subservient fighters, who fall in line and do as they’re told without speaking out.

[@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071]

Yet ufc fans disrespect other organizations

[@User71956]

Isn't that the point of any business? If the people you hired are now calling the shots then why would they keep them on? Unless they're a MASSIVE draw that brings in tens of millions, it's generally a good idea to not let "the inmates run the asylum".

[@ibezzant]

Absolutely. No more McGregors! Too much leverage and hurts the bottom line.

[@micheal_Wayne_III]

could'nt have said it any better

[@dhkim3986]

Sounds like the government. 😁

[@questtech7148]

I'm old and started watching UFC with Shamrock, Severn, and Gracie. It just seems the fighters aren't as charismatic, and the fighters all have the same skill set. I understand there is a competitiveness in the competition, but the unpredictability of the earlier UFC seemed more fun.

[@Ragzy57]

I agree, Pereira is the only one I'd watch. Hands of stone, charisma of a tax accountant. I'd like to see jon Jones fight again, he's the last of the old school for me.

[@ToddDCLT4]

What’s killing it for me, is that every champion wants to jump weight the second they win a belt.

[@maigepresents5840]

If that's the only way to get the money fights then you can't blame them... the weight cut policy also needs some serious rethinking. Can't have these guys walking around 30 or 40 pounds above their fighting weight and losing it all in a few weeks. No wonder they can only fight 3 times a year

[@theekaleidoscope]

and have you noticed some fighters become pretty unlikable after becoming champ compared to before they got the belt?

[@shumishu6019]

@@theekaleidoscope now that you out it into words I never noticed now common it is, jesus

[@ToddDCLT4]

@@1800moonSugar what? That’s the complete opposite of casual lmao

[@michaelturley8222]

I also think besides the lower weight classes, because they have no alternative sport options, there is a lack of talent because they pay a lot of these guys like school teachers instead of athletes. Like they can fight 2-4 times a year if they’re lucky, they have to pay their coaches and gym and taxes and get 20,000?! The talent is weak.

[@boxalarmtrading]

The PPV model needs to change. $100 for an event is insane.

[@dylanwall696]

Am always amazed at that price that people pay to watch

[@challengerjakku1943]

Especially when all the events this year bar 300 have been utter dogshit.

[@elizabethgeorge168]

​@@dylanwall696I only buy a few per year anymore. Even then I'm splitting it with 1-3 ppl 😂

[@kingjoseph5901]

Should he no more than $50

[@boxalarmtrading]

@@kingjoseph5901 I hope the PPV model completely disappears and they have some sort of “Sunday Ticket” or “League Pass” option where I can spend $400-500 for the year and get every single fight card. I could stomach that as it would be $30-50 per month for all the events. I think they would actually make more money too as I’m sure some of the streamers would hop over because it’s a more reasonable price.

[@sol5916]

You guys politicized things to the point where the only people interested in UFC are those spazzy dudes that can't get girls. It's a shame

[@roythousand13]

What does "spazzy" means?

[@sol5916]

@@roythousand13 you ever had that kid in class that would put their finger right next to girls’ faces? And when the girl tells them to fuck off, the kid keeps saying “but I’m not touching you, but I’m not touching you”. To him, that was the most clever thing in the world. He grew up to talk about politics and UFC all day on Twitter

[@roythousand13]

@@sol5916 , Okay, I understand now! Thanks for the clarification!

[@Chris-zx1ez]

​@sol5916 Why are you so accurate? It's scary, these guys are currently deeply embedded in the UFC politics.

[@DarkLight-Ascending]

New stars have a hard time being forged when all the attention is given to old, dying stars. UFC needs to quit kicking dead horses.

[@CanadianLimbo]

Fr Mcgregor and Jones are long passed their primes

[@toby099]

Not true at all. Look at how we are being force fed widely disliked young prospects like Ian Garry and Paddy by the UFC media machine

[@da_1nvad3r67]

@@toby099you are acting as if they didn’t do things to get negative attention lol

[@nickb7704]

@@toby099paddy pimblett is not widely disliked🤣

[@joelhuwae]

Nah young champions need to defend their belt and stopping to pursue these damn super fights

[@paulgodenitz]

As a long time hardcore, the volume demand from these larger TV deals definitely diluted the product. I’d propose shortening to 1-2 fight nights per month, and 1 PPV per month.

[@kingjoseph5901]

Ditch Dana, lower PPV and ticket prices, bring back fighter sponsorships, and bring it back to the working class people. It's an elitist sport now. The rich go and watch fighters who mostly get paid shite

[@ibezzant]

Facts brother. Just made the same post and saw yours afterwards. Couldn't agree more.

[@Patrick-et2bq]

I agree completely. You can't shift to 50 events a year without really scraping to put together cards. I'd be happy with one PPV a month and maybe one fight night every two months. I'm all for getting free cards, but I'm currently not even turning the TV on half the weekends because they look so lame.

[@anjukumarufcmmaboxing6672]

Dana White privilege has killed UFC. Whether its favouring Dagestani fighters in P4P rankings. Whether its giving Khabib P4P spot 1 when other fighters like Volk, Olivera and Colby deserved it. Whether its fixing the result through biased judges. Whether its favouring specific fighters in commentary through Rogan and DC. Whether its allowing specific fighters to cheat in PED and steroid testing. Whether its allowing weight bullies like Makachev to dominate lighter weight class. These are so many mistakes which Dana did that killed UFC.

[@perry3770]

It's wild how just because Leon lost, Usman can automatically get a title shot at the new champion. Completely ignoring Shavkat who has never lost a fight yet.

[@MsBrookeWilcox]

@@perry3770 another showing of the UFC actively trying to keep new stars from shining. They want their "garuntees" holding the belt. Smfh

[@moonvenerable7897]

He is 0-3 his last 3 fights no way he should get a title shot, Usman should have fought already and get himself back into title contention instead of sitting out for 10 months.

[@InternetHandle123]

are you kidding lol. shavkats best wins are neil, and neal. 40 year old wonderboy who couldnt even beat gilbert is not a good win. shavkat hasnt done anything to warrant a shot other than having an undefeated record. Usman was closing in on GSP status, lapping welterweight. shavkat got gifted #3 by beating #15, #10, and #9. Maybe shavkat vs garry, winner gets to destroy colby then title shot

[@theanswer1393]

@@InternetHandle123don’t ever talk about ufc again cuz this has to be the dumbest take I ever seen the guy is 18-0 all finish’s so all u saying don’t mean shit he the only fighter in that division that absolutely deserve a title fight and who the fuck would want shavkat vs Colby for title DH

[@drewdrewson1384]

Ya everyone knows that beating Neal and 45 year old wonderboy should be a guaranteed title shot

[@Ventis1HerO]

100$ for PPV ? No thanks

[@SmokeEater_]

ARRRRRRRRRRR MATEY!!!

[@nigerianprincewithaids]

Imagine 100 dollars for a main card like belal vs leon 2 Izzy vs romero 2 Pennington vs Anybody 😂

[@rictoectol9814]

I was out at $70 for a PPV. Yes I know that was years ago. That’s the UFC’s fault.

[@Ventis1HerO]

@@rictoectol9814 I was never in, when i started PPV's was 49$ and was too much for me :D

[@LechuzaSoul]

Just go to the movie theater they usually hold them for 20$

[@MyDrules]

Ufc is killing itself honestly

[@PatrickOrchids]

It's pro wrestling

[@MrJcock12]

They don’t seem to have the same charm. Everything is so corporate now and the UFC doesn’t seem to push their oddball stars. Not many chances for them to shine outside of their short fight window and pushing themselves through their own socials…

[@Subboxstoker]

When Disney and ESPN got involved it was the beginning of the end for me.

[@pahowitzer446]

100%

[@tooshady47446ttv]

Exactly

[@zenecawll5677]

Literally everything they have touched has been ruined

[@J.CagleMMA]

Ppv cost doubled under disney

[@issahgyandi3365]

@@zenecawll5677 ESPN didn't ruin the UFC. The UFC ruined itself with the big bag of money ESPN guaranteed them.

[@TheOfficialHyperium]

As a 30 year old blue collar worker, having worked many jobs with all types of people, its hard to find anyone who enjoys MMA the same way we do. The common person still views it the same despite the era. It's all about keeping your fanbase up to date with who's the biggest badass right now. That's gone away as we watch these pure athletes rise with 0 personality. Not their fault. They spend their entire lives actually fighting and training, not doing PR on the side like a Chael Sonnen, or any trash talkers which the UFC needs to negotiate contracts. It's not that its in decline, it's that I have no reason to gather all my friends to watch an event since 300. And as of the end of September 2024, the only champion that isn't an all-rounder (great striker, wrestler and grappler) would be Pereira with his deadly kickboxing and improved takedown defense. You went with ESPN, you got athletes at the cost of facing estranged complete monsters against each other.

[@aussieflintknapping]

Most of the cards lately have sucked. I think it's a combination of things like oversaturation of lower level fights, the company not promoting their fighters properly and the fighters being too inactive.

[@bwhere45]

How can Dana find the time with the Jon Jones meat riding he's doing?

[@lnovelli6432]

You say lately, one good card every 6-9months surely we can agree it’s far gone a decline

[@luckyspurs]

Remember when Dan Hardy used to preview every fight card from prelim to main card. You get the sense he's realised how uninteresting most of the cards are these days (those videos presumably just weren't doing the numbers to be worth the research and the couple of hours it took to film them). Even on the big UFC cards they only preview the main 5 fights now.

[@nomadgrappler9410]

Or you know the UFC is a monopoly and that guarantees a decline.

[@chingatu6644]

Lately? UFC 298, 299, 300, 302, 303, 305 were amazing/good. Recency biased is a thing dude. Has it gone down with the mainstream, casual viewer? maybe But the quality is still there

[@yashaanksingh]

UFC isn’t in decline but they are promoting the wrong guys as stars. Holding off fights to protect their fighters etc takes away from feeling like a real sport and can feel more like wwe but lacking charisma in the current bunch of big names they have.

[@jayistoxic227]

Love this take

[@maigepresents5840]

When a company valued at $11 billion starts to plateau on its EBITDA, they are essentially in decline... the UFC needs to grow at a rate of 7-9% annually just to maintain its value, given inflation, costs and a fluctuating viewership. It's basic economics bud.

[@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071]

Ufc doesn't even have all the best fighters

[@I-HAVE-A-BOMB]

They are in a massive talent decline since doing away with sponsors. It's very logical. Problem is cazzies like you dont watch ONE or Belator. UFC is also insanely tipped toward grapplers just by way of ruleset, the octagon, judging and weight cuts. It is inferior to ONE in everyway save for the big boys but those divs are all puddle deep anyway

[@maigepresents5840]

@@I-HAVE-A-BOMB I don't see a talent decline, I see matchmaking based on popularity not rankings, low pay exacerbates this as fighters avoid fights they don't see as PR oppos and fights in the lower order being less exciting because fighters don't see the need to sustain brain damage for a few thousand dollars... it's become a popularity contest with Dana at the top. He needs to go to be fair

[@ezradaiquiri11311]

Dana and disney are bringing the sport down. If they actually paid all their fighters, didn't boot lick the middle east tycoons, and made the real fights that are due, like aspinal vs jones, then they'd be doing better. And their fight nights have largely been trash for a while now. Bring back the crowds and give us some fights we can get excited about. Promote your fighters better.

[@michaelturley8222]

I think the biggest issue is they try to appease the casuals with “big names” and they lose the real fans. I was one, but the sport has been so bad the last year I stopped watched. Primarily with caring so much about a Jones v Stipe fight no one cares about. Giving Colby a title fight with that much time off. Or they let personal grudges against fighters stop them from making the best fights. And lord knows how many fights we miss over a fighter wanting like 50-200K more for the fight when they made like a net profit of $300M in 2022 I think. Just poorly run, Dana isn’t a very bright or talented guy, he gets WAY too much credit. They have a great sport, not a great organization. Idc what anyone says to boot lick. Dudes a wife beater, not a business genius.

[@joshb1137]

It definitely is, the days of Conor, Ronda and Lesnar are long gone. The star power just isn't there in the same way.

[@rankalucard3960]

The new stars are gonna have to find a way to top them, which is very unlikely

[@GregHuffman1987]

i mean, youre in a starless period until you have one. At any moment, you could have someone break out. Chances are EVENTUALLY some few people will break out. Sugar Sean? Poatan? Maybe Poatan is too quiet to ever be that big, but surely its inevitable someone steps it up in a vacuum

[@Shotgun_Only]

Man, Connor McGregor gets shit on these days so much because of all the talking but when he came in, he took the sport to new heights and introduced so many people to ir

[@GregHuffman1987]

@@Shotgun_Only yeh, i was a huge fan of him shaking up Aldo's division. Aldo had got dull af and him blasting him in seconds was beautiful

[@sinoverlord409]

Where are the stars in your list? 😆

[@dopaminutes]

The UFC has become fast food. The consistency of the quality is comparable to a KFC run by teenagers.

[@spacentime77]

👏

[@James-eo6bu]

Pretty much

[@Richards80]

Best anaology ive seen so far

[@JaimeNegron-hd3ev]

True 💯 u

[@MeatySmirk]

That's literally every fighting promotion that has ever existed

[@Slop_Dogg]

Unfortunately the answer is yes. Over exposed, over saturated, low quality matchmaking

[@fudgenugget8875]

No.

[@nitrox1613]

I don’t know what other people think but the apex has been slowly ruining the UFC for me. There’s just no energy or atmosphere. Anytime they go to Paris, London, other US cities, the crowds are chanting and giving off good energy. The apex just seems like a rich cool kids club.

[@danielponcianodiaz176]

Exactly, it’s even worse with abu dabi…

[@thedonofthsht76-58]

It's definitely a part if it. It's just lazy. They just fill boring cards for espn .they don't care

[@Quiron1985]

One would say the non-Apex cards are for the rich. Seen the ticket prizes lately? (And not only the sphere)

[@mikkey87]

You watching for the martial arts or the crowds?

[@kartikey8068]

I want them to go more international, Why not a fight night in like Germany, Poland, Morroco or Japan? but Alas!

[@pizzapozz7733]

Bruvs. Better Help are scammers, theyve been found out before to not even have professionals working for them. I would thread carefully with these types of sponsors, especially since it's not a gag. It's about actual physiological health, it's not a coffee mug.

[@guusgeluk3693]

Well said

[@luckyspurs]

I love how every youtuber who promotes Better Help gets trashed now.

[@jroggs85]

Seriously, though. It's an organization supposedly dedicated to mental health that has been caught doing questionable or outright illegal stuff countless times for like a decade now. How is anyone still doing ads for them, no matter what they pay?

[@TheMMAKasual]

Fr, rat behavior

[@majortom331]

Not even a ZocDoc ad, they got betterhelp sponsors even after they got exposed. 😐

[@iamhocus]

I have given up on UFC, Dana has shown time and time again he does not give a toss about fans, especially international ones (outside of the arab emirates)

[@tylerseger6718]

Honestly with what Dana and the ufc have done with heavy weight has really disengaged me

[@nerdcotics]

Hearing Dana go on and on about how great Jon Jones is starting to get on my nerves. Frustrates me to the core.

[@beerdsy]

I like that he has to keep saying it it's like a humiliation ritual or something lol

[@beerdsy]

Just trying to see the bright side maybe!

[@Choom89]

It's disgusting and a prime example of what the ufc has become.

[@koalanectar9382]

Why? Jon Jones has an incredible record. Dana is just saying hey, if you want me to talk about you like this some day, then get good. There's nothing wrong with that.

[@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071]

Yet ufc stans disrespect other organizations

[@ChicoSuaveMang]

The absolute peak of MMA was Spider, GSP, and Bones all reigning over their divisions, with Conor and Khabib providing a mountaintop just below that. MMA and the UFC in particular have been stagnant for a while, and now it’s really starting to fester.

[@DawryMike]

The way Dana talks about his fighters makes me sick

[@asraarradon4115]

It's because the UFC killed off its competition. The reason the old divisions seemed stacked was because they made their name elsewhere. You need multiple promotions that get publicity, where fighters can make a name for themselves, and then the UFC ideally is where the creme de la creme go. Fighters also need the freedom to fight in other promotions. Boxing figured this out forever ago.

[@issahgyandi3365]

I agree. Moreover, they won't pay for top-talent. "Go through DWCS and get 10/10". "I'm making 200k a fight in ACA, Hunter, I'm good".

[@ARR409]

This is honestly a really good and nuanced take that no one thinks about. Great insight.

[@ARR409]

Also, considering that low level fighters who leave the UFC can go to the PFL and make $1 million, is a terrible look for the UFC.

[@Skiftlykickly123]

Agreed. Especially after hearing Dana say "This isn't a career... it's an opportunity." But he gets butt-hurt when his champs want to box or something

[@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071]

​@ARR409 PFL/Bellator has their own elite talent. As many fighters left the ufc still in their prime and some in win streaks, they chose not to deal with Dana white. Mma landscape has changed and PFL/Bellator has plenty elite fighters including fighters that have beaten former and current ufc champs and ranked ufc fighters.

[@aleksanderb.5254]

I have 3 points about this video: 1. Jones and Gus fought in 2013. Jones only fought once in 2014 against Glover. 2. I don't agree with Jason about some things but i really respect his views as a whole because he looks to be as much objective as possible doing his job 3. I think it would be good idea to do a top 10 free cards in Ufc history or made a video as a whole talking about the best and worst for the fight nights in the company's history

[@The101Explorer]

Idk if it’s on the decline but the direction it’s been on recently has been very concerning

[@ronnyspanneveld8110]

Every week there is a card. with one fight i am interested in. Prelim cars takes like an HOUR to ACTUALLY start. main card takes 45 minutes to ACTUALLY start. You spend your CASH and HALF of what you watch is useless rambling and commercials..

[@luckyspurs]

Also they should stop having the commentators hyping trash cards by the cage, at the start of the main card. It's so fake it makes their own commentators (Bisping, Cruz, Anik, Rogan, Cormier, Felder, whoever, they all do it) sound less sensible and trustworthy.

[@sicarius.m1]

Nonstop Burger King ads 😂

[@randyphillips6506]

It’s gotten so bad I’m literally a nfl fan now

[@AaronTheBaron93]

*an

[@TheHyena-ru8bz]

One of the biggest reasons UFC has declined is because of the blatant greed and corruption. Back in the day the best always fought the champ. Now the competition gets diluted for lousy money fights. A perfect example is how Colby Covington and Jorge Masvidal had title shots. Yet, we have monsters in these divisions like Shavkat who is undefeated with a 100% finish streak.

[@johnartine9550]

Shavkat was relatively unknown at the that time though, while masvidal and colby were reaching star level status, business wise would be very smart to push them to fight usman, but now the decisions made are being very questioned and redundant. Talks of Usman getting a title shot on a 3 fight losing streak instead of Shavkat is just insane, as well as khalil rountree fighting for the title which makes no sense

[@naturalianoss]

Yes but Shavrat is boring and sells no fights

[@johnartine9550]

@@naturalianoss a guy with a 100% finish rate is boring?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nicklazzaro5055]

@@naturalianoss im sorry but thats exactly what a belt does for a guy.... ya think khabib was a big seller before he got the belt? Nobody cared ab him before the belt. The belt brings named contenders which sells fights.

[@ttt22295]

The ufc has changed and even fans don't want to watch real fighters their want sports entertainment their want to see the next conor mcgregor or the next ronda rousey old days of ufc with real fighters is done

[@hulkman245]

18:57 an all time gate doesn't mean anything in this day and age because the UFC keeps upping their prices. Derick Lewis vs that nobody blob had the highest fight night gate

[@davidgrogan3840]

The amount they charge to watch fights is crazy.

[@PayDay4Youtube]

Its the inevitable when u put on a fight card every week. The product becomes watered down because u need fighters so the quality of fighter is nowhere near where it was when the UFC used to only put on 20-25 events a year

[@colinb8332]

Exactly. And not only that, but Dana refuses to pay the fighters better wages, meaning you’re not going to get the volume of good fighters you need to fill those cards.

[@ImOnlySIeeping]

try 10-12

[@olivergosling3668]

Multiple issues have caused this: 1.) UFCs obsession with building the company over creating stars. How many times have we heard Dana shitting on fighters? You’re a promoter for fucks sake! You’re supposed to “promote” the talent. They’ve only ever been interested in promoting the company. 2.) Fighter pay! The established guys fighting today came up watching UFC through the “golden age” of 2007 era. They got familiar with the stories of brown envelope bonuses and “huge money”. Whereas now, anyone looking to get into the sport is only too aware that fighter pay is generally pretty shit, for what you have to put yourself through and your likelihood of making it to the top and a good, well paid career out of it, is pretty slim. 3.) The best fight the best! UFC pride themselves on this, but with everyone so skilled these days, almost every division is a ducking wood chipper, just churning guys up! There is zero consideration to how 95% of the roster is booked, so guys (and girls) can barely string more than 2-3 wins together. 4.) The sport of mma. Back in the day, it was so much more pure, with so many more specialists competing. Now almost everyone fights like everyone else, so there is no real individuality. It also results in a lot more close, competitive but relatively uneventful fights. 6.) It’s just too tough to do more than a couple of times a year. Not the UFC’s fault, but fighting other highly trained professionals is too tough on the body to do more than 2 and occasionally 3 times a year for the majority of fighters. So there is just endless log-jams with guys waiting way too long for time shots, or not getting them because in spite of having a 6-7 fight win streak, they end up losing because they want to earn money but don’t get a title shot due to champs being injured, fights being delayed, etc. It’s just sad really, as the sport is pretty much non existent, it’s a company and that company is only interested in making money. They don’t see anything anymore than that and it’s a case of fuck everyone, the fans, the fighters, whoever gets in our way! The best thing they could do for the sport would be to open up the new divisions available, make some big fights, new champions, PPV for all the champs regardless, make a big deal about making bonuses noticeably bigger, get rid of show and win, retire the vile excuse for a human being that is Dana White and generally go on a massive PR exercise of appearing (and ultimately being) a much nicer place to work! You’ve made a success of the company. You’ve won! Well done. Now stop shitting on and keeping down the fighters and show people you’re actually giving a shit. Having watched this sport in huge detail for 25 fucking years, it makes me so sad in seeing how this sport has gone. We were all so desperate for it to go “mainstream”, well mainstream mma fucking sucks! 😢

[@benmckinstry4023]

Great comment, it has been going downhill for a few years now IMO.

[@DanAddison]

Point 6 is a really interesting one that nobody seems to acknowledge. These guys compete so few times in their UFC careers, most champions somehow have never been matched up with literally the majority of their ranked peers, and you get legendary veterans that never met each other despite operating in the same division over the same time period. So it’s impossible to get enough data to accurately judge who is the best (in, say, football you get Man Utd playing every other club a minimum of twice every single year, while in MMA a fighter might compete once total so we have to extrapolate, project, wildly guess at how they compare with others). When they do fight it’s subject to camp timings and injuries and opponents schedules and suitable cards etc etc…. So basically the sport has to be massively ‘curated’, in other words creatively and very selectively orchestrated, by the organisation. Like, even if they threw out all consideration of popularity, marketability, growth, and tried to make it 100% about meritocracy, everything is still hugely subjective and compromised. So even when you get someone saying, for example, “Jon Jones is undoubtedly the greatest coz he has so many high profile championship wins against known stars”, that smdoesnt necessarily mean that there aren’t 5 guys on the roster who couldn’t beat him handily if the matchup was ever made. The whole sport is just a bunch of manufactured narratives and flawed opinions. It is what it is, but we’d do well to remind ourselves of this as fans.

[@eunolee4055]

Get this guy a Pulitzer

[@alexbrown975]

The talent is there, pay is higher than it's ever been; crazy bonuses being announced in press confereneces. I literally think it's the culture of the sport that has changed. Prices for PPVs and tickets have skyrocketed so you now attract a different fan base. I completely agree with you about the specialist, that was one of the most intriguing things about the sport back in the day and why Khabib and Periera are so popular today. Then we have the match ups, the best should fight the best but now it feels like certain fighters are being protected to maintain their star power. Finally, the apex and the contender series has killed fight nights. We have too many events so half of them are complete trash.

[@Grok_Fractal]

Regarding Dana, I doubt Hunter Campbell will be any better as the CEO, probably even more of a shark

[@dylono.t.2509]

UFC is turning into WWE, pushing old stars for the belt, while putting the young guys on the back burner. Edit: Not to mention meritocracy has been dead for a while now. Can’t tell if this is a sport or entertainment.

[@kad9947]

Merit was UFC's main strength, and it was a punch to the liver of an old, corrupted, and dying boxing. I don't care if it is another "boring" Russian all over again, I just want to see the best fight the best, give Poatan-Ankalaev already.

[@MAD_Villain1981]

Fixed fights also

[@american1207]

Fans don't care about merit. If Dana believed in Merit then we never get the likes of Periera, Conor, O'Malley, Lesnar. A lot of their biggest stars were spoon fed to a title shot and the fans absolutely loved it. And other than Stipe what old guys are they pushing for over a younger guy?

[@stephencox8723]

⁠@@kad9947merit was never the UFC’s main strength. Weird matchmaking has been around since the company’s inception. favorites have always been played in regards to gets what matchups. for example, big nog defended his interim belt against mir to let lesnar fight couture for the real belt.

[@kad9947]

@@stephencox8723 True, but I was a boxing fan, so my standard of merit was pretty low, back then, lol. Now I understand.

[@FightYourCouch]

More is not better. The oversaturation and watering down of the roster has led to some truly lackluster cards. The UFC is supposed to have the best of the best.

[@fernandovalencia5411]

Quality over quantity. Even if every fight was super high level and you get a highlight KO every week. Seeing that all the time is going to lose its flavor. Back then what made the fights so spectacular is that they were not so often events. Anticipation and building hype was part of the whole experience and thrill. But unfortunately we don’t get spectacular fights or KOs back to back. Just technical sparring sessions, lame wrestlefuck, decision machines. And the hardcore trying real hard to say they’re hardcore defending this bull shit with Dana’s nuts throat deep in their mouth saying “the sport is evolving” they’re more technical.

[@ibezzant]

A lot of REALLY good comments on this video. One thing I didn't read too much is oversaturation. The UFC should start doing two shows a month. One PPV, one fight night. There's just waaay too many events and fights with men/women that aren't appealing or have drawing power. Imagine if they took the 12 best fights from one month of fight night cards and put it on one event. That would be pretty sick. Could better fill out the PPV prelims as well.

[@kasquerade6692]

I have been feeling this for like 2 years now. It's a mixture of bad cards and a big amount of the fighters being just unlikeable as hell

[@TheMMAKasual]

That sounds like too much media

[@AwesomeDude24_7]

Blame Dana for hiring some dude off the streets who won a sweepstakes, as his matchmaker. I’ve never seen worse fight cards, like the one’s we’ve had this year, awful!

[@sambo731]

Don’t be sponsored by better help boys

[@stanparker9556]

What's the story with better help? Are they another scam paying influencers to advertise for them?

[@thijsdeboer389]

@@stanparker9556 unreliable and not trusthworty, which is especially bad when vulnerable data about people's mental health is at stake. Besides that just fake veneer techs but for psychologists.

[@t.j1301]

​@@stanparker9556 they had a lot of controversy couple years back allegedly because of shit service from just bad therapists, completely unfair pricing and they apparently paid for fake reviews andddd they apparently broke privacy promises by giving away customers private info like email address etc and who knows what else while most probably getting paid for it. This is all alleged do your own research but just from on google search it should be quite clear. I said 'apparently' and 'most probably' and 'allegedly' because UK free speech is basically non existent.

[@Liverpool5095]

​@@stanparker9556Essentially. It's a phony so-called "easy therapy" option and their so called therapists are just uninterested human robots giving mostly copy-paste answers to their paying clients that you'll find on google. Clients have even received dangerous and horrible advice by these 'online therapists' that has only worsened their mental isues. The 'therapists' are untrained and unprepared.

[@I-HAVE-A-BOMB]

They dont care, they dont care about the sport either all they care about its geting media credentials for UFC. Sucking off UFC and cradling the balls

[@ManMountainMetals]

NASCAR priced out the fans UFC is trying to do the same thing

[@notthisguyagain8557]

I'd say so. The espn deal is ruining it for me. You dont even see walk outs. You dont see corner advice. Izzy vs ddp the commentators and the ref blatantly ignored izzies fence grab and groin shot. Undeserving title shots. How do you guys illegaly stream? To hell with paying.

[@3volk715]

That faceoff between Jon and Tom says it all that Jon will never fight him. Tom towered over him and is all around bigger. You can say Jon isnt scared all you want but there aren't guys out there with Toms footwork and size for Jon to train with. Remember, Jon was scared to the point of nightmares of rampage.

[@daquansteward1690]

Ight bro this post is about if the ufc is falling off. Stfu about jon and tom already. Ya'll are insufferable

[@agegarret]

​@daquansteward1690 in what way is the fact that the 2 best heavyweights arent fighting each other, not a contributing factor to the ufc falling off?

[@ImNotYourEnemy]

Man Jon is old. He should retire. He can't beat Tom. Daniel fought Stipe the second time when he should have retired. Jon knows he can't beat Tom, why? FATHER TIME IS UNDEFEATED. Yes get your 💰 fight and let Tom take over.

[@thibaultdellavaris4943]

I think we were just spoiled up until ufc 300 and now the cards are just good, but not phenomenal, so it feels a bit dead

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

I consider myself a hardcore fan but my interest with the ufc is falling off sick of watered down PPV's and dead apex cards every week 🤦‍♂️the matchmaking is horrible and its turned into a soap opera

[@jessechaos132]

You're not a hardcore fan speaking like the typical casual lmaoooo

[@Hughjazs]

@@jessechaos132lmao what? Are we suppose to jump up and down for joy for EVERY card?? I try and watch ufc fights whenever they’re on but a lot of these fight nights are so lackluster and just boring

[@matejerben1547]

Couldnt agree more

[@srinivassuresh466]

Ufc is at a place similar to wwe after 2002. Dana white doing whatever the fuck he wants promoting whoever the fuck he wants, makes random fights and flips out when you question his decision. I dont see it getting better.

[@Choom89]

100% it's a circus run on Disney money now.

[@ttt22295]

The ruthless aggression era was awesome what you talking about

[@griffindault]

​@ttt22295 and when you think of moments from that era did any of them actually occur in 2002 or the first half of 2003? It was a transitional period and the RA era didn't really get going until mid 2003.

[@srinivassuresh466]

​@@ttt22295I am not talking about the product. I am arguing about Dana white's running of the business. The ruthless aggression was helped out by it being right after attitude era. Plus raw in 2003-04 was terrible with triple h rain off terror. The overall quality was not really as good as attitude era.

[@jamesasher63]

Being in the UK it feels even more like you've got to have a really good card to get me to stay up all night and pay increasingly more money. It was so much easier with BT sports but now they want me to get a discovery plus account and pay way too much for cards that basically don't excite me

[@juliooquendo220]

I wish the tickets not be expensive. I wanted to go to the msg show but the tickets was over 600 plus dollars and that was the nosebleed seats.

[@Afflictamine]

the ticketing websites are dogshit in Australia too, can never actually get any tickets because scalpers use bots to buy them all, also the company sell the first bunch to all their friends first too

[@juliooquendo220]

@@Afflictamine I guess I can watch it at home or go to a dave and busters and just watch it while I eat.

[@Afflictamine]

@@juliooquendo220 yeah pretty much, probably get a better view and food and comfort at home anyway lol

[@juliooquendo220]

@@Afflictamine yeah I was going to take my girlfriend to her first UFC fight but I guess going to dave and busters to watch a good fight and eating food is better than watching nosebleed seats

[@luckyspurs]

Was actually really happy the fans where I'm from Greenwich, London, didn't buy the most recent card there, with the insane ticket price the UFC had put on a really really average card. Had huge amounts of empty seats and even the atmosphere itself was extremely muted. It's the card that ended that run of sell out gates Dana used to bang on about in every post fight press conference.

[@BenKuyt64]

the biggest problem with the UFC is the cost to be a fan. If you aren't a tech savvy person, you're the only friend who watches UFC in your friend group, and you want to watch every PPV, the cost of being a fan is like 2k a year. In a time where every dollar is needed, being a UFC fan is one of the more expensive hobbies you can have.

[@ItzSailorChaos]

Well you technically don't have to be tech savy, there are plenty of secured and free streaming sights too use. Definitely feel you on being the only one in my friend group. It sucks ass. My brother and I only have each other to talk to about fights coz most of our friends don't watch it

[@BenKuyt64]

@@ItzSailorChaos yea, but most people aren't going to know how to pirate and stuff. Like, I'm a master of piracy, yo-ho-ho and such, but I know people that have no idea about it

[@nicklazzaro5055]

@@BenKuyt64 i mean if they can click on a link or use the internet... its not exactly difficult.

[@BenKuyt64]

@@nicklazzaro5055 I worked IT support for 5 years. Trust me mate, for about 90% of the population, it is that difficult

[@nicklazzaro5055]

@@BenKuyt64 weird that runs at ab an infinite higher clip than what my experience is... i send my friends links and they watch at a 100% rate..... for many years and for many people.... wild.

[@SkankHunt699_]

I really really enjoyed this video breakdown. Brought up some great points. I will say, I personally need Fights every week. Every Saturday since 2014...I really haven't missed one and generally block out my Saturday for these... I don't think I can go back. Lol Nice work as usual!

[@Choom89]

It's been in decline ever since they sold out to ESPN/Disney. Ever since then it's been arm and arm with WWE, entertainment not competition.

[@Keno313]

The cards are more bloated and the avg fighter is far worse. Point fighting needs to go.

[@juangraciaofficial]

Don't blame the WWE, trust me, if WWE had influence in the UFC, the product would be better cause the guys would learn how to talk and sell a fight instead of just tweeting and being keyboard warriors. The main issue here is Power Slap. The moment that shit came out, it became Dana's main focus and he has disregarded the UFC

[@ricardodeleon1307]

The downfall was when they sold out and went public

[@iMeRKBaTMaN]

Everything just feels prehistoric to me Bisping saying the ultimate fighters winners will go on to be household names just shows what era they think they’re in

[@Choom89]

100% meanwhile guys like him and Forest are getting checks from power slap😭

[@mrt445]

I really miss Pride.

[@hawk1093]

MMA peaked right before the Fertatita's sold it. It's been downhill since.

[@Choom89]

100%

[@naturalianoss]

peaked with khabib vs mcnuggets and been free falling since then

[@nom7808]

@@naturalianoss buddy, no one but muzzies gave a fuck about khabib, Conor made him a star. And now look at the UFC, saudis are running the show, they only want muslim bruddas to be the champs. But people arent dumb, they see this shit, muslim bruddas in the ufc will be the downfall of a UFC empire. Mark my words marshmallow boy 😉

[@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071]

Nope, not if you watch other elite organizations

[@nom7808]

@@naturalianoss Highest Grossing and Most-Watched Event in UFC History was ufc 300 buddy, khabitch never sold ticket.

[@crocodile6097]

Yes, the PPV’s are too expensive.

[@EnigmaMaster]

PPV price is set by ESPN not the UFC. The UFC has no control over the price increases

[@eIcucuy]

Illegally stream the fights that’s what I do

[@crocodile6097]

@@eIcucuy so do I, makes it harder to watch with family tho

[@User71956]

I'm just a curious outsider observer who is more of a WWE guy, but I was under the impression that ESPN+ had UFC PPVs bundled in that package.

[@EnigmaMaster]

@@User71956 nope, PPV are separate from the ESPN + subscription, that only gets you the fight night events

[@nuckynuciano1574]

My interest peaked at the beginning of the rbk Era. U can't say you're trying to legitimize the sport with uniforms, while saturating the market, not allowing fighters to express themselves with shorts, lose sponsors, and continually contradict yourself(dana) with favoritism. Rankings mean nothing in ufc. And the pay is truly laughable.

[@GinkgoPete]

Cant make new stars when you promote a drug cheat that will never fight again and if he does its against another ancient retiree.

[@PrestigeWorldwideNAM]

Whats wrong with 2 "retirees" fighting each other...Doesn't it make sense?

[@paca-wd8wu]

⁠@@PrestigeWorldwideNAMbecause one of those guys has the heavyweight champion belt. And despite 4 years of inactivity has not been stripped or vacated the title. To hold on to the belt, a champion must regularly defend against the top contenders. Jones would rather retire after fighting a man who is 42, hasn’t fought in four years (his last fight he was brutally KO’d). Rather than anyone in the top 5 much less Aspinall, the interim champion. Jones basically wants his cake and to eat it too. He wants to be known as the badass heavyweight champ. (In which case he should fight Aspinall.) While simultaneously get an easy fight and easy retirement with Stipe. If Jones was stripped of the title and was simply fighting Stipe veteran to veteran in a non-championship bout that would be fine. Instead he refuses to defend against any of the TOP 5 active fighters in the division. And still be praised as a legitimate heavyweight champion.

[@itchweeed47]

I watched a video recently that kinda addressed this trend, to sumerise: The increase of skill/talent of fighters is leading to less KOs, and more decisions. While Judges seem less and less willing to explain their scoring (1 judge might rate takedowns as higher than strikes landed), which is driving interest down.

[@Kazwick12]

I think the model of stacking ppvs to the max and then leaving fightnights the scraps, gets people excited for ppvs but then many times the card doesn’t live up to the hype leaving fans feeling like the quality has declined

[@pancho8708]

You think ppvs are stacked ?

[@Afflictamine]

they also shove boring WMMA fights onto PPV main cards while leaving a lot of rising stars on the prelims

[@nitrox1613]

@@Kazwick12 Yea at this point I would rather have had 299 and 300 semi stacked but still have more good fight nights. Fights like Almeida vs Blaydes and Moicano vs Turner could have been good fight night main events.

[@Deagnetic]

There's too many fighters, too many cards, and it all costs too much to follow it all for an average fan to invest in specific fighters as well. There are far less "stacked" cards because they're all spread out in the year, and even then, we get some shit show main event no one wants to tune into which screws over other fighters trying to break out as well. I feel that that less can be more for the UFC if they condense the talent pool a bit, pay the main fighters more from the fighters cut, and start stacking these fight nights/numbered events more. The fighters that get cut (lets say everyone under the top 15 of each division get cut) should be put into a UFC-Owned-Minor League Championship and they have to fight their way into the UFC.

[@Kazwick12]

@@pancho8708 I mean they’re more stacked than they use to be, we get a card with like 4 apex main events on it when they could use one of those to save us from a trash apex fight night card

[@24burnaa74]

This is Dana’s own doing . There’s too much ufc cards in happening every weekend , you can tell ufc is more focused on quantity. And the “ Quality” fight cards always end up being disappointing.

[@frankschwarz408]

My theory is that the UFC isn't necessarily in decline, only that there are slow (less quality cards) in certain parts of the year as there will be inevitable gaps in fights for star fighters. In fact, I only think its growing as the rest of the world is taking the sport more seriously and creating gyms and like any sport, atheletes, or fighters in this case will only evolve and get better. Similar to Soccer, MMA appears to be a sport just about every country is willing to participate in. Personally, I'm very interested in seeing Khamzat's next few fights. He has fallen off with me a little bit with him being sick and pulling out of fights, not to mention him missing weight against Diaz. But I was amazed with his domination of every fighter up until the Burns fight. And even when he fought Usman and people were saying if only Usman had more time to train and if it was a 5 round fight things would be different, the fact that he got Usman, an exceptional wrestler, down to the ground several times was extremely impressive. He also has knockout power as we saw against Meershardt. He should definitely rematch against Burns and Usman if he continues to win all his fights.

[@cornpop6154]

One Championship is a better product than UFC and they dont try to nickel and dime you. Muai Thai rules in the cage with 4oz gloves? Yes sir.

[@irishpizza2823]

They've had Chingiz Allazov (#1 PFP Kickboxer) locked down for a year now with no fights. They only want to fill 99% of their cards with local Thai's, who'll take a reduced pay check, no problem. It's criminal to let a guy like that sit on the shelf and collect dust.

[@nicklazzaro5055]

i like the array of products they put out. I dont watch enough but i like that they have mma fights, muay thai fights, half and half fights (1 round standup only, 1 round mma).... and when these guys fight in One they get paid so thats always a plus.

[@JR-wj9bh]

cry about it

[@hitleractually8180]

Nah, One does waaaaaaay too much. And the down time between fights is ridiculous. I don't have 5-6 hours to sit and watch an event. Get rid of the BJJ matches. Get rid of the kickboxing matches. Just gives us the MMA and cut the down time in half and I would pay more attention.

[@ironlift2275]

And one doesn't test, which is the biggest upside ever!!!

[@randallsavage13]

I feel like there’s to many fighters on the roster to keep up with and it makes it hard to relate and really get familiar with them and for them to really stand out

[@AlAl-b5j]

Its just inactivity. The top fighters make sooooo much money they only have to fight once a year, and they'll pull out of fights for the smallest of reasons.

[@amir9-p7d]

And when they fight to survive until the bell winning by boring decisions

[@amir9-p7d]

And when they fight to survive until the bell winning by boring decisions

[@guusgeluk3693]

Dislike for the betterhelp shilling

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

It feels like the UFC has become a content provider that provides fights instead of a fight promotion. There are just too damn many events now.

[@maigepresents5840]

The problem is that they have to show 7-9% annually growth to keep their investors happy...that's impossible to do without either hosting more events or having their top talent fight more often....

[@kingjoseph5901]

PPV is too expensive and so are tickets. It's a sport for people like that reptillian Mark Zuckerberg

[@offbeatfiles]

UFC is just super underwhelming at this point. No star power, basically zero entertainment value, dana being an ass and refs/judges acting like they're in Dana's pockett at times, Dana burying every talent instead except of glazing on Jon Jones etc.. They really should watch what PRIDE was doing in it's hayday. Make the fighters iconic and give larger than life aura to them with entrances etc, I think it really would do a lot.

[@eamonshields2754]

I’ve been saying this for awhile… no one fights anymore. All the top guys fight once a year if we’re lucky.

[@luizperez3357]

except for poatan. guy is single handedly carrying the ufc this past year

[@martinsalazar9590]

​@@luizperez3357 we need more kickboxers they fight every week

[@eamonshields2754]

@@luizperez3357 agreed. He’s a legend

[@benm5913]

Yes. Athletes being fighters vs fighters becoming athletes is a generational shift in mentality. This affects stories, stalled divisions, and intensity of fights.

[@midnightshinobi1]

I think that’s the most unspoken point. The fighters now are high level athletes who fight. Not fighters who trained to be good athletes. It’s a slight difference but has huge impact on the spirit of the fighters in each event

[@adamchirico3805]

Advertising better help is a disgrace

[@mexicanoaao]

Tbh, I don’t mind it. They gotta make their money and being able to get brand deals like that is important to keep the train rolling. I agree tho, would be better if they got more trustworthy sponsors

[@ThaRewixPro]

Whats wrong with better help?

[@adamchirico3805]

@@ThaRewixPro KZbin search away bud!

[@josephnissenson3252]

​@ThaRewixPro They've been found to be fraudsters who often times don't even have real licensed professionals working for them. Furthermore they also sell their patient's data to make an extra buck. All online companies do this but the problem is their product is a therapy sevice, and confidentiality is one of the most essential foundations of a therapist-patient relationship. Therapists that are worth their salt often treat that confidentiality as serious as laywers and priests taking confession do

[@josephnissenson3252]

​​@@mexicanoaaothrowing out your integrity for money, on such an important issue such as the mental health of your viewers, is a disgrace no matter what

[@LunaticTheCat]

Bruh, the Better Help advert ain't it. Ffs, do some research into your sponsors.

[@TVE-32]

When your main goal is making money and not the sport you are "selling" the downfall is never far away... quantity over quality!

[@HEYMANFOODREVIEWS]

Sick video! Personally I preferred when the UFC had regular knockouts. Whilst the skill level is higher now it’s much more defensive and this sometimes as little boring for a viewer! (All said GSP is goat!)

[@Linebecken]

You forgot to mention that some of the fight nights are suffering due to stacking out the Middle Easy cards for oil money

[@siblej1]

The most off-putting thing about the UFC is Dana

[@matikhorasani3842]

I used to be a huge fan of UFC in the early 2000 to 2010s era. Not sure what changed, but I miss the old fighters, especially the ones that either came up through the early TUF seasons or those Pride veterans. Nowadays I can't even be bothered watching any fights. The Khabib and Connor rivalry was the last time I was actually excited for a fight and that was a few years after I had stopped following the sport.

[@Notenoughwin]

I think it peaked years ago in the early days of Connor and Rousey

[@johnriley4425]

I disagree. A single fighter isn't what makes an entire organization fun to watch. You're entitled to your opinion but the UFC did absolutely fine without either of them. They're still breaking attendance records to this day without them

[@yaboyreege7158]

@@johnriley4425agreed. People will argue that there isn’t one or a handful of superstars but I think currently there are many more stars that many more people know of. Several divisions are stacked with way better talent too. The lightweight division alone right now is arguably the best of all time. I don’t think the ufc is going downhill at all seems kinda obvious to me

[@RichardLove-r4l]

id much have this era....the jiri v poatan stare kinda capped that era off to me...the t ferg winnin streak...that was my golden age

[@Afflux212]

I’m gonna be the next ppv star

[@virityrealtual3831]

They ditched Ngannou, mighty mouse, for what? Ufc aside from lightweight is literally less exciting than one fc. Hope more talent flocks over to one fc where they get paid, respected while competing in more stacked divisions.

[@Andrew-un8tx]

Wumao BS

[@kingjoseph5901]

Theyre dumb

[@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071]

PFL/Bellator getting bigger with more stars, love it

[@blacklotus108]

@@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071 yup I used to be a huge ufc fan but nowadays one fc pfl and bellator have my attention more often

[@hybrid.catastrophic.impact6071]

@@blacklotus108 Absolutely. More options for us hardcore mma supporters

[@Thiccolo]

Unlimited upswing is impossible, UFC has been nothing but profitable since the sale. It was only a matter of time that they contract.

[@TaKa4oh8]

The new owners choices are ruining the UFC

[@chrisreynolds35]

Better help ad mean instantly clicking off video.

[@thedonofthsht76-58]

YES!!! IVE BEEN FEELING THIS!!! 30% of fighters are from contender series. They are worried about filling cards not quality cards. Id never watch if i was paying. I thought I was just getting burned out but I'm glad it's not just me

[@iancarrey4123]

Better help is a scam

[@kingjoseph5901]

Yup, made by the gays and jews

[@StLMikie]

Before anyone uses Better-help please do your homework on them.

[@matepavic6929]

Yes. Next question.