Is the 'worst' Subaru WRX STI really that bad? | ReDriven used car review

[@the_irate_juan8462]

When these were new, I was like: "hatchback? Meh." Now that am older and have been used to the convenience of a hatchback as a daily drive, these are now becoming really attractive.

[@wilesidegenna1854]

As a kid growing up...I knew I was gonna own a subaru , but never would I have thought I would have been a hatchback subaru that I would fall in love with

[@isaiahtaylor7928]

i have one, honestly one of the best dailies you can get, just don’t put your phone where he suggests, i’ve sent mine into oblivion many a time by setting it there

[@isaiahtaylor7928]

@@wilesidegenna1854 one of the best wrx generations imo (i am an owner of one)

[@RGV2300]

Videogames popularize them quickly.

[@daixer3156]

No! Kids driving them at car meets did.

[@damilolaakanni]

One of the best looking STi's, IMO. This, the 22B and the last generation. The current one looks like a cross between the Crosstrek, BRZ and FK8 Civic. In simple terms, weird, and not in a good way.

[@ulisesavila2879]

The current one as the next "integra" just look like a lowered SUV unfortunately.

[@smoothzee8984]

The 15 and up look ugly

[@TsunamiDragonEX]

This one, looks like a Mazda 3 though, yeah?

[@wrxhex]

The 22 wrx looks like a legacy and crosstrek trying to be a wrx imo

[@ianholmquist8492]

There us no sti of the current wrx chassis

[@marvinvisser5039]

As a Subaru owner myself. Subarus have character. They don’t excel In anything. However they are incredibly versatile and an amazing daily driver if you don’t count the fuel consumption. Keeping them stock will give you really good reliability.

[@jamesbradford1931]

Jim nailed it! I had 2004 STI and it was a horrible ownership experience, mostly due to previous owners. While I do like all WRX and STIs, I would only consider a 100% stock and very well maintained example. I cannot stress this enough, GET A PRE PURCHASE INSPECTION. It doesn't have to be a specialty shop, most shops can give you a pretty good idea of what you're getting into. Also make sure you're financially able to maintain them properly!

[@BlokeWithTheWRX]

Currently have a 2012 WRX Hatchback Premium and it has been my dream car for 8 years. Got it 2 years ago and haven't regretted it. The car is basically 100% stock mechanically; Catback exhaust + a GFB Blow Off Valve. It's currently got 208,000km and stock engine, stock transmission, etc is from the factory. People underestimating the power a WRX has is crazy. They're plenty fast enough for street fun and they put you back in your seat hard. Problems that can arise is leaking oil (Often from rocket cover gaskets or turbo seals) and / or burning oil (Often from sticky oil control rings around your pistons.) After an engine flush, it made the rings 'unstuck' and was able to keep oil in and blow by has significantly decreased. Subarus are known to burn oil so don't be surprised if yours does. Don't service them every 10,000-12,00km; do it every 5000km and keep everything clean. Overall (My experience atleast) has been a solid 10/10. I bought it at 144,00km with full service history every 7000km. If your going to buy a WRX or STI, please get one bone stock or close to it. Do your own modifications and take them to a reputable workshop. Lastly, don't flog the fk out of it. Put your foot down here and there but don't be red-lining it constantly.

[@c2h6-e]

As long as you don't mod them and then go full send without upgrading the engine, the WRX STI is super reliable and a super fun car. I have plenty of friends with all sorts of Subarus and they all love it

[@znismo1]

Lol no it's not. They blow up even if they're 100% stock. The only way the engine MIGHT not blow up is if you never actually get on it and go full throttle. But then that just defeats the purpose of having a performance car, might as well get a base Impreza at that point.

[@EJ257IHI]

I modded my 2004 with Cobb Stage 2, custom tune, Walbro 255 lph fuel pump, also swapped the factory oil pickup tube, car didn't blow up. I do agree they can blow up if you start running massive amounts of boost on the stock pistons.

[@EJ257IHI]

@@znismo1 Got on mine plenty of times even with a Stage 2 and a custom tune, no issues. Fast forward 18 years later, car went through 6 owners and is still on the road. Only time I heard them blow up 100% stock is due to the oil pickup tube failure.

[@jwmmt8249]

@@znismo1 they just require a lot of maintenance, if you look after the car it'll look after you. Majority of the stories you hear about subies blowing up will be because of neglected maintenance

[@pirihern9329]

anyone out there with a stock, non modified sti with 300,000 miles or more, I doubt that

[@gabrielmartinez5961]

I own a 14 WRX hatch. I bought it new, and after 9 years the engine blew. The car only has 56k miles and I take it to the Subaru dealership for regular maintenance. The car is completely stock, and never took it on the track. The clutch did get squeaky like he mentioned, and the paint is really thin. Love this car, but it broke my heart that the engine blew. Left me and my wife stranded on the highway and didn’t get home until 4 am.

[@smithwrx5910]

What blew? Spun bearing? head gasket? Ringland? either way... That super sucks ...

[@wardcathcart121]

This is STi

[@TDT0188]

Valve spring or rod bearing probably. There was a known valve spring issue that they would warranty as well as class action suits against the pistons for ringland failure and the main and rod bearings for just being poorly made.

[@gamerfreak10210]

About 2 years ago I traded my 2011 wrx 116k miles for a 2011 sti with exactly 16,667 miles on the dot when I bought it. 29k almost 30k but it was in great condition and had such low mileage I couldn’t pass it up. I absolutely love my car it was my dream car and now I have it. Super fun to drive as well!

[@MartinJones123]

The worst WRX in my opinion is the 2022... It looks hideous! Great video 👍

[@blowurn0se]

Agreed!

[@Ali-yj6pl]

Specially the rear end!

[@MartinJones123]

@@Ali-yj6pl The entire design is just wrong... Especially the proportions...

[@daixer3156]

@Ali Those taillights just gotta go

[@jayvaughn3382]

I got both. 😂

[@mwboost]

Widebody has the best guards Subaru made I reckon. Never get sick of mine. Never blown any subie over the last 14 years either. All turbo and tuned. Current MY11 has been tuned for 8 years and going strong. Most reliable cars I've had. Honestly hasn't cost me that much in maintenance either. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@204_mod_shop]

I got a 04 WRX with a APv2 installed on it for the last 8-10 years with a stage 2 91 Oct tune

[@Hutchy86]

The old boy bought one new. Runs a tune with supporting mods ( nothing to insane ) gets driven hard as a daily. Is approaching 240,000kms and to date only thing that went was the turbo at around 170k. Uses a bit of oil but they all do. Keep up the upkeep and they’re surprisingly good

[@charlatanshost18]

Glad I stumbled across this channel! Really informative and an excellent buyers guide. As an 2015 STI owner, I really agree about the comments regarding the car's previous history. My mechanic has so many stories of abused ones that come in needing a rebuild or with blown headgaskets with very few kms. I've had mine for nearly 4 years (although with only 72,000kms) and it's been bulletproof and a really fun drive.

[@claudioalvarado5371]

Buy a WRX 2011 with 114.000 km forged an tuned from 55.000km big turbo, 1050cc, turbo gtx 3076r inyector, water/meth, etc 438 whp broke the block at 122.000 km :( buy a new block, bearings, rings some new gaskets, re-use pistons(JE) and rods(HTUff manley), runnig like a champ again cometic gasket work really fine for me

[@Crogunson-wb2zl]

Guy in country Victoria ran his 2015 STI without a drop of oil on the dipstick for weeks topped it up with 4 litres it still runs but yeah if you know fuck all about basic stuff like checking engine oil coolant levels, buy a Camry for a couple grand it's cheaper than STI short blocks & head gaskets.

[@longdomedia]

This model is easily one of the best STI's to be released, definately become more appreciated since the VA chasis came out.

[@SoulsSave]

Ya videos or photos doesn’t do its justice. I love the wide aggressive look

[@4doors671]

Lol can’t compare this to the VA STI. This thing handles like a boat and the engine is worse

[@ryanwasilewski7742]

⁠@@4doors671 how are you gunna call the smaller/lighter chassis a boat 🤓😭 the VA is the most disconnected and numb/uninspired feeling of all the generations. Also how you gunna call the engine in the GR/GV worse ? Aside from the 2019+ type RA blocks they’re literally the same 😂 goofy

[@4doors671]

@@ryanwasilewski7742 I’m not the only one saying that the stink eye Subarus handling is shit. Also lightness is not the only contributor to a cars handling.

[@ryanwasilewski7742]

@@4doors671 As a Subaru tech who has driven every generation of Impreza/wrx/sti and owned a good portion, it’s clear you have no idea what your talking about lmao. There’s a reason the “stink eye” was the last chassis to compete in the WRC, the VA is/was too large (weight and dimensions wise) to be close to competitive. Subaru made that car fat and wide to appeal to normies and the masses and it shows thru and thru. I also didn’t say the GR is the best handling generation. But to say the VA handles better is a hilarious cope.

[@AUS-NewbiTLorD]

I bought a 2006 WRX STI 8 years ago at 125,000kms (original engine) for $21k. It's now 212,000kms and the only issues I've experienced was: Radiator. Fans. Clutch. CV Boots. Thermostat. Rocker cover gaskets were leaking recently and fixed that up. Overall maintenance (i.e. Fluids) and replacing it all myself over the last 8 years has probably been about $3500 all up. It's been a daily driver, driven on average 3-4 days a week and it's probably been the most reliable and low maintenance car I've owned (compared to a Ford Falcon, Mitsubishi Lancer and Toyota Yaris). Occasional spirited driving, mostly driving off-boost when not out cruising with groups or friends. It's been great. Spent 7 years of it's life in Darwin, NT and now in SE QLD. Only thing I can recommend is that if you plan to buy one of these cars, learn how to do regular maintenance yourself and have mechanical sympathy. Never let the oil drop past 3/4 as EJ257s motors can be easy oil starved. Don't lug the motor as the ringlands are prone to failure.

[@kylejohnson8051]

The removable cup holder piece: put it in the back cupholder, makes the front one deep enough for a large coffee without getting in the way of the shifter. The rear remains at the right depth for a medium or small coffee without touching your arm while driving. It's a little neat idea that makes a big difference and was cheap to make 🤙🏾

[@akane-1]

Ray here. I was a Subaru only performance tech for over 4 years. You did very well with this review, only a couple of things to add: - Running 98 octane fuel is a minimum. They “say” 95 is ok but the factory tune prefers to wait until it knocks to pull timing instead of having safe ignition tables for Australia. That added safety margin will keep a “daily driven with mechanical sympathy” STI alive. Detonation is death on these motors with there factory glass pistons. -If you are going to buy ANY Subaru turbo 2.5L, or any Subaru turbo model in general, a compression test and leak down test is a MUST! I cannot stress how important this is. Due to the “subie rumble” exhaust note most people won’t pick up if the engine is hurt/running rough unless you have years of experience and a keen ear for these engines. Any proper seller will have no problem performing these tests if they have nothing to hide and the few hundred it may cost extra to the purchase can save you well over $10,000 (the average cost to rebuild a mild performance motor addressing the factory weak points). -power steering pumps fail, rear shocks leak, sometimes rust forms on the pinch welds around the rear hatch and cheap pads and rotors will have the brembo’s squeeling like a pig. The good? The Subaru STI has a sort of “character” which will keep you addicted to the car and funneling money into it like a lonely millionaire at an “adult establishment” Keep up the great work 👍

[@ReDriven]

Ray, this is exactly the sort of comment we love on here. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, genuinely appreciate it. Legend. - AK

[@jasonschubert6828]

I am actually surprised that the power steering pumps never seem to get mentioned in these type of reviews. Seems to be an issue across the range too.

[@ThatwhiteSTI]

My power steering pump SCREAMS in the winter cause it gets close to 0 degrees F where I am. As for my motor. I did everything right to keep it alive, but I wasn’t told by the previous owner she beat it up in the winter song donuts and cyclones in the snow. Sad to say the OEM replaced motor by the dealer blew up in 20kish miles. I was lucky enough to buy a built motor before it went. I’m just waiting to get the last bit of parts and money to get it installed. It’s also an outfront block too

[@thechunkyhen]

Steering racks also tend to develop leaks. Also the plastic end tanks on the stock radiator go brittle and crack around 100k+ miles.

[@ThatwhiteSTI]

@@thechunkyhen I’m at 80k something. When it does go I was recommended to get a 2015+ steering rack

[@bradce6552]

Hey guys, love the videos, they’re all enjoyable. Bang on with everything in this review! (owned one) also love that you guys are actual car enthusiast, not just the regular journalist. Keep it up fellas 👌🏻👍🏻

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so so much Brad. - AK

[@williamlee4214]

If people give you guys sticks for the silly bits ignore them: Keep having fun and you will keep making more of these. (and better they will get!)

[@jamess3644]

Great video, I own a 09 hatch STI in South Africa which I'm sure is pretty much the same right hand spec as the Australian ones. I am not a mechanic nor an expert but in my 9 years of owning it here are some of the things I've learnt: 1. Engine - Pull the Oil dip stick out when the car is running. If you see white puffs of smoke coming out then it probably has Ringland failure (I wish I knew this when I bought mine). I bought the car at 50k km and the piston rings where broken and pieces of the pistons had broken off. ScoobyWorx rebuilt the motor with forged wiesco pistons for me with a stock map and I'm on 125k km now and all is still strong. Picking up a second hand one with a forged motor or just forged pistons with a stock tune would also be a benefit in my opinion. 2. Fuel - We only get 95 octane petrol so make sure your map is correct for your fuel and don't use anything less. We tend to over fuel a bit so a puff of black smoke out the back would'nt be considered a bad thing in your rear view mirror on occasion as you really don't want your engine running lean. 3. Other issues I've had - Boot button is electric and the rubber protection comes off so try not get it wet else it won't work. Recaro seat height adjustment also broke. Paint is the softest substance on earth so try not scratch it... All in all, it's a great car that always puts a smile on anyone's face that drives it.

[@RSXengineering]

DOES AND DONTS DO get a good intake or downpipe and get protuned buy a reputable Subaru expert. This will highly improve the torque curve and solve tuning issues. DO NOT go Stage 2 or more without upgrading the fuel system. Also, Bigger turbo = built block. DO get an IAG Air Oil Separator, cylinder 4 cooling mod and better radiator. Torque and excess heat kill these engines. DO NOT install a BOV if you are not running speed density. DO use 5w-40 oil instead of 5w-30. DO change your fluids and sparkplugs ahead of time. DO let the oil get up to operating temperature before getting into boost. welcome to the subie life

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so much for this mate, exactly what we love to see in the comments. - AK

[@eyecontrol4900]

Only thing I would say at 22:00 , is that the STI's will go up in value a lot more than the ST or the i20N. Since they killed off the Wrx Sti, these will get the "collectors item" badge, and will hardly drop in 2nd hand price at all I reckon.

[@goprob1]

I am new to this channel and totally impressed! You are a scream AK! as well being clear and concise with no waffle! and thanks for not doing the "whats up guys intro" so many youtubes have. Well done!

[@ReDriven]

Ah cheers mate! Wrapped you've enjoyed, I'll just go and edit out all my new "yo yo what's up guys" intros from future videos! - AK

[@FkNSRS]

As someone who loves Subaru - This car is probably the cheapest WRX and STi you can get on the market. Originally having a GC8 and my ex-partners father having a GC8 2-door STI - my G3 STi-R doesn't give the same OMMMFFF as those. That being said - the GC8 had some life issues, the boot was surprisingly not life proof and people would constantly want to race me. The GC8 STI was that on steroids (and being on the Gold Coast, u were either just outgunned by AMGs or tailgated by Commodores or Falcons). The G3 WRX/STI... great balance of power and life-proofing without looking toooooo bad (Looks at the GF8). A throttle controller in cabin out of the box (in the STI), which is great when im driving casually 99% of the time, and a boot you can actually put a A2 box in. Camping? Yes. Road Trip? Yes! Beach day? Yes! that Snorlax foam couch that EBgames once sold for $200 that didnt fit in my old GC8 but fit in a Mazda 2? Yes! Is it the GOAT of WRX's or STi's - hard no. Is it a car that with the proper care will serve you faithfully and through many different life situations and stages? Yes. You're not going to get around the Subaru EJ engine issues no matter what series - each has their own problems. Can it be mitigated with timely services and fixes - definitely. Is it the fastest of the WRX series? No - definitely not. But you're also going to be overlooked for hoons or cops because let's face it - you wouldn't be watching this video if you through this car was a hoon machine. Don't let looks decieve you - this car can pull it's own weight (and they're thiccccccc). If you're looking for a 4wd hatchback that has a bit of power with the ability to carry you through each life stage, the G3 series is an excellent starting point to exploring your options. And with a massive market for aftermarket parts that don't break the bank too much, you can make this car your own. Owned since 2019 My G3 WRX STI Spec R Mishimoto X Radiator Mishimoto CAI Perrin intake Whiteline front/rear thicker sway bars (24F/22R) UltraRex front/rear sway bar and H brace Cusco Oil Catch can Perrin 3 point port solenoid Tien Streetflex coilovers Process West Intercooler Invidia catted downpipe w/ R400 turboback exhaust GFB adjustable BoV 200kwatw / 400nm Tq 185k kms. She's loud, purrs and spools up very quickly - even in it's lowest settings. Had the chance to buy another car during my time when looking for vehicle? As much as I'd love to say yes and get an Evo8MR, I don't think it would have served me as well or through my various life stages as I have had to date. That's what this car brings - life proof with a bit of power behind it.

[@loganwilson6727]

Bought an 09 STI not long ago, only problems I have found are a helicoil put in crooked which is a big pain. And it needed some new front end rubber (bushings etc.) the car has almost 200k and was driven in Canada winters.

[@txomin5147]

the car was rust free or damaged by the canadian winter?

[@loganwilson6727]

@txomin really not too bad, just surface rust underneath and a little bit of bubbling on rear fenders

[@GTS300Coupe]

Love this channel. You guys deserve over 1 million subscribers! The continent is very informative entertaining and original.

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so much! - AK

[@2810Mad]

I like how the channel is growing. Keep at it!

[@simonvance8054]

Personally this is my favourite shape ever in the WRX/STI especially in the hatch. Subaru had that cool aggressive look in this model, now the newer ones look like just another conservative Japanese car with a bit of sportiness to it. I’d absolutely rather have a good cond used car of this model than a new one or later model even if I have to spend money on repairs. Great video, this was hugely helpful information. Thanks!...

[@Mike_Ehrmantraut.]

As an owner of a 2013 WRX hatch, I really appreciate this video. Of course while not being an STI, this still mostly applies to my car and it points out inherent flaws and weaknesses that a new owner should be aware of. That being said, it also shows the good side of these cars and really allows for a buyer to understand the car and who it's for. The biggest gripe that I have with mine is of course the factory stereo. It is quite bland and even with Serious XM, Bluetooth compatibility, and a factory optioned subwoofer, It still leaves a lot to be desired as far as usability. A close second is probably the interior. While I am not that bothered by the quality of the plastic, it does squeak quite a bit as compared to other cars I've driven. Of course, that's easily remedied by just blasting some tunes, but its worth paying attention to if you're the quiet drive type. Overall, I love my car and I can't imagine myself getting rid of it but I will definitely be referring anyone that's interested in buying one to this video.

[@Marticus518]

Great video with amazing background work, awesome job! I used to own an STi like this, fantastic car and a perfect daily driver / weekend racer. Interior rattling was my biggest gripe that needed some effort to minimize and kind of loud on highways with road noise. Storage space is great with the hatchback and you have no issues hauling around people in it either, I was overall very happy with my ownership, although now I drive a 2012 STi sedan because.... big sti wing in rear view mirror :)

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so much mate. - AK

[@1stcrusader1]

I’ve had MY08 since new and driven 150k, has been completely reliable, only thing done in addition to regular maintenance is replaced noisy power steering pump.

[@officerplod1482]

Great voice over. Very funny. When will you do a review on the 100 Series Landcruiser with the 1hd-fte engine?

[@tonycarranza4161]

hatchback FTW! I can attest to the reliability if you don’t go crazy in mods. my 06 WRX is still ripping at 190K with just a catback

[@pirihern9329]

keep it stock with spt add ons and do not abuse it. maybe it will make it to 300,000 miles. I'm 70 retired 2006 sti with 140,000 miles

[@ddsgardening7437]

After our 25 years of being with Subaru, yes we have ordered a 120n in Silver pic up Augustus this year my wife and I can't wait and our dog loves the idea of rear heated seats 😀

[@JoseLopez-dv5rk]

I hope myn is good i bought it from a 60 year old man just sitting in his drive way he also had a bugeye wagon and 2020 sti i bought it from him with 86k miles said he never abused it never even really went passed 80mph 🙏2013 white pearl wrx completely stock

[@westhouse2012]

Owned 1 and sold it because of all the kids! Still wake up from night sweats in the middle of the night. Was the most enjoyable, raw car I owned. Loved it. Miss it....should've just invested in baby seats with bolstered neck support....

[@butwhole9704]

11-14 sti sedan is my favorite, if I bought one it'd be a 11-14, I have a 11wrx, super comfy and roomy inside.

[@Wiseguy248]

The first issue you want to worry about are head gaskets. Second, timing belt, water pump and thermostats. These EJ's don't like overheating. Seen too many owners give up on fixing them due to those issues.

[@ianholmquist8492]

Unless you are pushing way way more hp than stock, head gaskets are not really an issue with any generation of the ej257

[@pirihern9329]

heat soak issues if driven hard in hot weather. better if tmi, swapped to fmi

[@neilbarron858]

The squeek re clutch is not the weld on firewall but the clutch pin binding. It runs dry and will start to damage bush

[@samgao]

I had a 2010 wrx. Sold it at 134k miles. The ONLY major thing that happened to it was my throw out bearing died making the car undriveable. That happened about 125k. But replaced it for about 900 parts and labor, and boom. Everything was good to go again, for another 100+ miles! Interior was just really drab, and the sound was not the best…

[@johnnyquest456]

I’d love to see an all EV 24 hour endurance race if they are the future 😂

[@gar24407]

The cup holder cover still in one piece??? That was a garage lady for sure 😂🤣

[@oddities-whatnot]

Im in the UK, a browse on Auto Trader reveals a handful of WRX STI examples from various years. I would only get one from a Subaru dealer, with FSH, unmodified and no more than two previous owners.

[@Cusick_Skate]

bought a 08 hatch, replaced the block because it spun a bearing. now its built much stronger and will all be brand new again once I'm finished with it! love this car, its just a money pit

[@joseph1980.]

Bought one a few weeks ago. Wrx S prodrive. Tuned to 325. So far so good. Living it

[@stuartedge5906]

I have a 2008 WRX STI spec R with 260,000km on the odo. Still a great car. It has had an engine rebuild, thanks to Michael South Engineering (MSR). With forged pistons, stronger rods, flex fuel, it has tons of torque. Also a gearbox rebuild due the centre diff viscous coupling causing a thumping noise when warmed up. I have updated the technology with a Pioneer head unit with Android Auto. Now I am installing Alpine sub-woofer and amplifier and speakers to upgrade the sound. This makes a huge difference for anyone who appreciates good sound. Fun to drive, plenty of space in the back with the seats folded. Contact me if want any further details.

[@nealforreals2098]

Dang, how much did that cost you?

[@SUBREW]

Bought a 04’ w/159k miles 5 years ago and now at 174k with no issues.

[@Phurzt]

08' was my first wrexy. Still drive it daily. Thing is a lego set. One of the best sports cars to own.

[@danbywaters6123]

Great review. For me, these Subarus are a little bit special. With the boxer engine, their unique sound and a brilliant AWD system, they have real soul and character. They are a bit 'different', and that appeals to me. Between 2015 and 2020 I owned and daily drove a MY11 WRX (the first of the wide bodies). Such a fun car. I sold it on to buy something a bit btter suited to family life but really miss it. Mine had about 60k on it when I bought it and had just had a clutch replaced under warranty (collapsed pressure plate). I put another 60k on it and the one and only fault I had with it was a failed brake pedal switch. Very common on Subarus but a replacement switch from the dealer is only about $20 and replacement takes about 2 minutes...... Even with 120k on the clock, it was still on the same brake pads that it left the factory with, and they still had plenty of meat left!

[@kzz8971]

I think the WRX of this generation is better suited for street driving. The STI is too difficult to drive for some reason. The WRX is easier to drive and lighter. I’ve driven both so I know, and currently have a ‘13 STI.

[@williamnguyen6859]

@@kzz8971 I'm curious to what makes the STI too difficult to drive. Would you care to explain? I'm thinking of getting one.

[@kzz8971]

@@williamnguyen6859 For one, its difficult to get going from a stop. Even on a stock clutch, I stall my car from time to time. Also, I don’t really like the notchy feeling when you shift into gear on the 6-speed gearbox. It feels unnatural. The body of the car is stiffer and heavier than the WRX. I think you should drive both and see which one fits your needs best.

[@imobul7829]

STI is true drivers car . I own a blob STI with ej207 motor that i had done a fully forge motor top to bottom 2.1 stroker . Puts a smile on my face every time i drive.

[@04WELLYDEEP]

I've got a 2012 sti a-line (auto) sedan. Ive had it for a year now and it's been awesome, sitting at 105,000km and was at 95,000 when I got it and cost me $22,000. It feels awesome to drive, super fast, super good cornering and touch wood - it's been very reliable. My experience with it so.far had been very good - one thing to remember is these have a cambelt so make sure you're prepared to spend about $2000 to do that.

[@genericsneeze5569]

thats my favorite wrx impreza hands down. It is so good looking in my opinion. Im not saying older ones are bad, this is just better

[@HinCheeTang]

Not sure about the worst one, but I'm 200% sure the best one is the GC8.

[@konohanin8686]

maybe not the most beautiful WRX but one of the nicest looking hatchbacks, and around 6-8 times more affordable than a sedan variant around here really considering buying one

[@jzfromauburn]

Ripper content as always! Redriven please do a review on the Evo X and GR Yaris!!!

[@ReDriven]

Both in the works Ollie and thanks so much mate. - AK

[@natel5370]

Good shout sir a jdm evo x is a weapon in manual form loved mine .. out of the box you can make them dance literally.. the 4B11 motor is very underrated due to die hard 4G63 lovers hating on it but 400/400 is a blast in one !!

[@JWOLDING]

As a 25 year old I bought one of these 17 years ago over a 180SX type X for the same money. The WRX was far more practical than the 180sx at the time. 4 doors, I literally took my grandmother out. I still own the WRX. I also own a manual VL Calais turbo, plus a BA Barra turbo with far more power. That pair are much faster in a straight line but the GC8 is just a better all round performance car. It is my favourite.❤❤

[@ManyArmedMooseDei]

I’ll say this much, mate: head gaskets, while very important, are, fortunately, dirt cheap! They’re just a couple pieces of thin metal, and are decently easy to replace, whereas with certain high end Italian cars often have issues with snapped connecting rods, which are a great deal more expensive and challenging to replace. Ferraris. Ahem. Regardless, if you get a car that’s know to have a weak link, prevention is better than the cure; replace that part.

[@biglap.australia]

A few years ago a friend of mine bought a new one of these and month latter had another car give him a love tap while going down a two lane road. That tap was enough to cave in the centre pillar and bend the chassis rail. The 2 month old car was written off! He couldn’t believe it! So the insurance company at the time offered him to just order another. He went stuff that and requested the insurance company he buy something else.

[@onuraydinli322]

You guys are awesome. Really enjoyable and informative videos. Certainly deserve millions more subs

[@bridgetclinch3678]

Just lost my 2013 manual WRX one of those that I got new to an idiot crashing me, good review, they're an awesome car

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Another great review as always. I'd add that it's worthwhile getting a couple of quotes for insurance if you're looking at these machines.

[@ReDriven]

Oh mate that's a tough one. We've considered it but with the amount of variables, not to mention how we'd make sense of that for international viewers (which make up a huge percentage) it has been relegated to the too hard basket. Awesome idea but we simply don't have the resources to make it happen. - AK

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

@@ReDriven I definitely understand the problems associated with that and wasn't suggesting that you provide that information. I was implying that insurance premiums for the performance Subaru's can be pretty eye watering when compared with other vehicles. It was a deal breaker for a friend of mine who was looking to purchase one a few years ago. And he had an excellent driving history! Thanks for your reply.

[@ReDriven]

@@davidbrayshaw3529 that’s an excellent point David. We’ll totally include that sort of information next time we film a performance or high premium car. - Ak

[@joshuathomas4934]

Good tune. Good oil. Good driving habits. No launching. No doing pulls everyday. No lugging engine. Push it only as far as you are willing to pay. If you drive normally and have a little fun occasionally. It will last a long long long time.

[@johnl2613]

My 2008sti is 150K still running fine. Only biggy was the noisy power steering pump which I eventually changed...

[@Langaz85]

Owned my 2012 WRX for 12 years and still going as well as the day I got it. Brilliant car.

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

I did happen to see one stopped on the side of the highway plooming out white smoke/steam/vapour. As I drove by smug as an EV driver at an environmental conference in my cheap Toyota.

[@smithwrx5910]

Not only is the 08 sti my dream car. Ive owned one and modified it for the last 13 years. This channel has done its research and was open about the not so good. Still on the original engine internals at 340whp on track days. some day it will give out but prepared to rebuild the stock motor when that happens

[@Texas_Cruiser]

It seems like not having a pro tune is a big factor in ones that don't last long.

[@vv247]

My from new 2014 WRX hatch limited has been spectacular, no mods other than a COBB access port stage 1 tune which is waaaay better than Subaru's tune. Dealer serviced and loved and cared for every day.

[@Bixnoodle]

2008 STIs were fine. it was the 2008 WRX that was a total joke

[@NathanElcoate]

Thankyou for bringing some sensibility to the tired argument. I say come to the hills and I'll show you what one is capable of. Not everyone cares about highway pulls. One of these G3 hatches would be an awesome upgrade from my GD. Nice review 👍👍

[@toothpicka1468]

Who said this is the worst sti y’all just making titles up for click bait. Everyone loves the sti hatchback it’s sought after and still holds tremendous value even with high mileage.

[@ReDriven]

Mate even a quick look through the various forums and owners groups will show this gen as the least popular. - AK Also, we despise click bait but finding a balance between keeping the algorithm happy while not misleading what the video is about can be a challenge. But please know, we'll never stoop to click bait levels, we despise that shit. - AK

[@ianholmquist8492]

It's the worst looking generation. Imo

[@thisistheend_777]

​@ianholmquist8492 not the hatch...pig nose is ugly

[@FrankieBNJ]

The s206 interior with black trim in place of the silver trim should have been a standard for all sti’s of this gen. Such a simple change makes the interior look night and day!

[@heres_the_sauce]

Owned a 2011 sti hatch and still regret selling it. Amazing car

[@EpiclyReckless]

The hatchback is the BEST generation. I loved mine. Most reliable car ever

[@DEVILTAZ35]

They actually look really good in black. I just had one beside me yesterday.

[@oscarzt1652]

i like the style and thoroughness of your review, reminds me of mat watson at carwow.

[@trentmorris2502]

For the money I would go an i20n for sure. These are great but the levels of tech and safety on the newer cars is amazing.

[@Blakfire386]

I own a 12 white hatchback. Stage 1+. Great summer daily. Own a 05 legacy 2.5 gt. I love Subaru. Yea issues will come, but knowing issues can arise is half the battle.. want true Japanese reliability. Go Toyota or Honda. I’m friends with the Subaru gremlins.

[@ddsgardening7437]

Cheers mate have been a Subi owner since 1998 Gt Forester ×2 and MY 07 WRX Hatch ,top review really enjoy your style reviewing 👍

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so much mate. - AK

[@head0927]

IMO best STI. If you have owned any hatchback then you know there is almost nothing better to daily then add AWD perfect daily.

[@BertoAranda]

I love the fender flares & front bumper look on this gen, My ‘14 only had 1 literally small fender bender 😐 otherwise it would be perfect

[@grantkahale8933]

Fun fact - In this generation from 2011 and 2014 the WRX had a quicker 0 - 100 time than the STI due to being lighter and having longer gear ratios and could do it with one less shift.

[@Dragunov302]

This depends on the driver.

[@vult5853]

That's hilarious if true

[@LabVectors]

Maybe worth an honourable mention of the 2010 WRX STI Type-Uk. The 2010 Type-Uk Sedan is the fastest, best accelerating and most powerful Subaru ever made. Coming with 326HP as stock.

[@ianholmquist8492]

I think you'll find that the 2019 s209 sti is the fastest, quickest and most powerful stock subaru ever made with 341hp

[@ravipeiris4388]

I drive a 2011 Maybach 57s with a V12 6.0 liter making over 620 hp and 738 lbs-ft of torque. Yet the Japanese manage to pull more horsepower per liter than my V12 is simply amazing ❤. Much respect for Japanese engineers 🎉.

[@kody7041]

the brembo brakes themselves usually have to get replaced or get timecerts installed because the threads usually strip out.

[@rwdplz1]

Had a 2014 STI I bought brand new, daily driven for 7 years before I sold it. The North America Navigation head unit was terrible, laggy, and liked to take the scenic route. The brake light switch failed, I replaced it, and a month later Subaru issued a recall. The engine suddenly failed without warning at 31,000 miles, dealer blamed the oil pump, replaced engine and turbo under warranty. The worst part? I sold it at the end of 2020 for $24,000.Not bad, right? THEN the used car market went nuts and Subaru discontinued the STI, and I could have probably gotten almost what I paid for it new.

[@m.m8760]

Great review. Well researched. I don't agree about the "complete nightmare" bit as this advice applies to purchasing any used performance car.

[@NZNeiko]

I love my 09 sti , had to rebuild it at 152k kms but It’s by far my favourite car to drive and daily

[@samartz]

This last hatch was the best looking hatch! And paul walker drove it 😁

[@daixer3156]

And now he's dead. What does that say about the hatch now? Hmmmm 🤔🤕😵

[@normls8615]

3rd gear on highway in 02 non STI wagon is the cars happy place. Driving it is my happy place, & it's stock as well as the families favorite ride. But for a new happy place GR Yarris.

[@JackalCars]

This was really, really good. Top notch research and super-informative, thank you!

[@richiesworld1]

The updated G3 hatch is one of the best looking WRX's imo.

[@garylai363]

Still have my stock 2012 WRX STi hatchback in white, all stock, 70,000kms, bought it brand new. It's been a good car, shit on gas though, and burns oil, but I haven't driven it much and it hasn't given me any major issues. A part of me wants something newer with a better ride and better cabin sound dampening, but there's nothing new that is very interesting and still a 6 speed that will set me back a bunch of money.

[@DJ_Driven]

Owned a 2012 STI limited purchased brand new was one of the best cars I ever owned. Traded in on 2013 STI SE (0range 1 of 100) with only 5,000 original miles, and now it just sits in the garage LOL. Probably going to post up for sale to a collector.

[@mikeburgess449]

It’s the ringlands not just the the head gaskets!

[@NicoCoeurDeLion]

Even back when I was a Z guy I appreciated these STIs and now that I have the 2014 Impreza Sport I even have more respect for it. Can’t wait to get one

[@ultimatedonar]

I really need a "Mmmmm....shit driver." t-shirt added to the ReDriven merch.

[@ReDriven]

Great idea!

[@oky69]

This model never caught my eye until I saw a couple of them in the flesh , in my opinion they would make an excellent daily . I prefer the early style blue interior in my sti bugeye , that’s just my preference . Any one looking for a sti I suggest carrying out a compression check, budgeting on engine hoses , rocker hat gaskets. The EJ257 is a good Torquay motor but don’t expect it to rev like a 207 . A good tune , free flowing exhaust and intake will make it a ausome daily .

[@stevehatch5453]

Great car to review and loved hearing the level of detail that you do go into without going near any yawn material. Cracked up with the "any big chunks out of the alloys.. mmm- shit driver". Bloody spot on 😂😂

[@UnknownGamer-cw3uo]

I own an 08 WRX that’s been modified a little and needs some work and I love it even tho I know it isn’t the best looking and it’s a narrow body my main love for them came from Ken blocks gymkhana and Dirt 4

[@MadaniK_80]

He asked so nicely I actually liked and subscribed 😂

[@ReDriven]

Haha thanks. Welcome!