Is the ZL1 Camaro better than a Hellcat?

I drive the mighty ZL1 Camaro and tell you how it really stacks up against Dodge's monster hellcat. Which car do you think is the better car to own?
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[@jrichhy4321]

I’ll take a ZL1 in a heartbeat. Car is Very much Under Appreciated. Hellcat’s are cool as well , but more people should give props to this menacing vehicle and I’m a Ford guy.

[@jermainejpshepherd2778]

In 1 word: yes. Problem wit the Camaro is that GM doesn't advertise it enough.

[@joew8695]

Truth.

[@cjgroovestreet]

I like them both equally

[@joew8695]

The best way to go in life is to have one of everything all sport/performance makes and models. No favorites just one of everything.

[@shawnpetty3837]

It's more than that. It's not like the Camaro is some unknown entity like say my Kia Stinger. GM just seems to make some awesome power plant choices but also poor usability choices at the same time and it hurts them.

[@nicholasherrera3620]

False. To update or improve anything on these cars is hilariously way to expensive for what little numbers are increased. Whereas a 4 door sedan that puts down the same power while weighing much more is much more logical to me.

[@LeadfootLou]

The ZL1 is a great car. You can't go wrong with a ZL1, Hellcat or a Shelby. Love them all even though I own a Shelby. Excellent content as always.

[@BI6BADWOLF]

Amen to this. I appreciate them all. All very well done cars.

[@robertc4311]

Facts.

[@prontopower6615]

Absolutely love my ZL1. I have the 2021 convertible in black . Fastest car I ever owned. Love it so much that I sold my 2018 Corvette 6 months after I got the ZL! !!!

[@simbanugz2906]

If at the expense of being able to see out the back seat is worth it. In my teens i was a Camaro guy in my 40s its ford & dodge because of being a larger man with a larger wife ...lol

[@lilpre504]

Lmao

[@jamesrichardson1748]

gotta agree. I always thought of Camaro as a really tough, but uncomfortable boot.

[@JUSTiNSWORLD]

Taking $1 MILLION DOLLARS Worth of Cars to a FAKE HELLCAT Meet... 🤣 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/poKmqaB3abOtms0

[@kd4029]

😂😂

[@virusworld3730]

❤️🤍💙

[@alexandermcdole8464]

Yeah I love the looks of the ZL1, Don't own one, but do hate to see it go away. I'll be driving my 99ss until I die.

[@richki.24]

ZL1 is my dream car .... maybe some day

[@robertc4311]

It will happen...

[@slicksavage9839]

You’ll get it 💯

[@kevinanderson9752]

I daily a Zl1 1le and most of the complaints are overblown. It’s one of the best performance/dollar cars on the planet. Wish modding it was easier but so is life .

[@StrideX21]

I had a zl1, I love the look of the zl1 1le but idk if it's worth the extra few grand for me to get it because of the looks. I'll probably take it to a track maybe 1 time lol what do you think?

[@StrideX21]

Also I'm sure a 2023 zl1 1le will be a classic/sought after car

[@darock400]

Definitely don't want to see it go. I am a Camaro guy, I have a 2018 SS and I prefer that more than the vette. It's a lot more bang for your buck. The quality is just perfect for the money. I'm sure going to miss it but I'm keeping mine SS.

[@stevenberry3294]

The Vette , just because of the different configurations available for the dash gauges why it's a better value and in touring mode it rides better than the Camaro.

[@antoniok52]

@@stevenberry3294 I’d hope so for twice the cost.

[@thullraven1]

I'm a Mustang guy and I don't want to see the Camaro go. I own a 2018 6 Speed Mustang GT, but I love the Camaro and Challenger as well.

[@CiiDisabledGang]

I was born with one arm, and would love to drive the ZL1 somebody. I drove the Scatpack and that is a beast. The ZL1 is something I’ve been dying to get my hands on. One day we’ll get there. This was a dope episode, look forward to more!

[@matrox]

Keep pushing, you'll get it.

[@arkarius944]

There's a dude out there that messed up an arm and tracks it with the other one, or at least he was for a while!

[@Solusspiritus]

No offense bro but.. hands?

[@billnye5183]

Don’t let that stop u one of my moms friends is paralyzed from the waste down and somehow drives a z06 manual don’t ask me how 😂 and I don’t ask him how he does it but he does drive it and he drives it so well u can’t even tell he’s paralyzed until he gets out with his wheelchair

[@Lonsito-]

LOVE THESE VIDEOS 🔥🔥

[@MIXINGBOWLMAN]

Not enough room for me Challenger and Charger better daily driver and better buy. Looks like whomever traded it thought the same since you were at a Dodge dealership 😂

[@kewan2045]

If you need a car for a bunch of people to fit in I agree. Better driving experience Camaro all day.

[@MIXINGBOWLMAN]

@@kewan2045 bunch of people meaning more than you and one passenger 😂 that means no kids, no family trips, no trips to Home Depot. These are practical things you need for a daily driver. Or maybe you a bigger dude taller and or wider Camaro is a poor choice.

[@Batman-D]

@@MIXINGBOWLMAN Taking a trip in a Camaro is not bad….Done it plenty of times

[@kewan2045]

@@MIXINGBOWLMAN do you feel the same way about 2 seaters? You can actually fit kids or small people in the back. That’s why dodge sells more it’s practical. Still not a better drive than a Camaro 🤷‍♂️

[@kewan2045]

@@Batman-D very nice. Done it several times especially nice with the top down ☀️

[@AllJSeries]

Nice review! I’m a tech for GM, and that 10L90 transmission is amazing with the engine combo. Subscribed

[@charlesdalton985]

My son just bought a LT1 6-speed, darn fun car to drive. I can only imagine what another 200 HP would do for the driving experience. Side bar - no issues for me regarding visibility, and honestly I thought for sure I would. And the dual mode exhaust sounds incredible - you are right. Thanks, as always.

[@jamesshiver5380]

There are some visibility issues. For starters, u have trouble looking through a curve because of the a-pillar. Turning ur head to switch lanes is a pita because visibility but u get used to it and develop different methods. I love mine and wouldn't trade it for a REHC in a hundred years.

[@JUSTiNSWORLD]

Taking $1 MILLION DOLLARS Worth of Cars to a FAKE HELLCAT Meet... 🤣 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/poKmqaB3abOtms0

[@matrox]

Yep Mine is a 17' SS with a stick. Definatly exciting and nice riding cars.

[@matrox]

@@jamesshiver5380 Lots of cars today have that, not just the Camaro.

[@dominicksforza3484]

The difference is staggering Charles, the extra 200+hp transforms the SS into a true beast that will scare the crap out of you if you're not careful, I know as I have a '17 ZL1. My friend who did the mods on my car told me "when it don't scare you anymore is the time to add more power".... He's crazy but he's right as he is heavily involved in late model GM performance upgrades. It's cool you and your son share passion for performance cars, you can go to the track and go full on or just do the 1/4 mile runs togeather, either way there's many memories of running a great car together and he will remember them long after you leave him for the beautiful racetrack in the sky. I envy you as my Father had absolutely no appreciation for performance cars and had no desire to even entertain the thought of going with me or even talking about it. Hope you and your son have many safe days of enjoying the SS.

[@thefamilydog4115]

Just picked up my new Camaro SS and wish I could have afforded the ZL1. Such an amazing car

[@marcojordan7430]

I think the camaro zl1 is the better car to own.

[@haroldedinjiklian6267]

Ofc it is

[@Democrats-R-hypocrites]

Just sold my 2020 zl1 with 2500 miles on it so I can get a track hawk. Mind you. I got waxed by one at the track and it was my personal best time of 11.1 bone stock even the tires

[@blancavostrikov1304]

@@haroldedinjiklian6267 Camaros are slow

[@alwaysdriven]

@@blancavostrikov1304 no they ain't! A trackhawk makes everything seem slow unless you are pumping more than 700hp as well with AWD

[@nightowl32]

as a former 2ss owner....yeah.... it's unfortunate that the cam is leaving us.....America will be one less nostalgic model on the road....great vid!

[@ardelld8465]

Thank you for this great video with 21 ZL1Camaro. I like the ZL1 Camaros. Sad to see them go. Sad to see the V8s go.

[@RacerX9]

Absolutely.. I agree

[@christopherhenson5509]

Absolutely, you're safer in a ZL1, 2SS, compared to a Hellcat Especially if you live in Cleveland, or Detroit You won't have to worry about being shot & killed, and car jacked, all because you have a Mopar vehicle

[@daytonraught629]

Lmao ain't this the truth Youngstown is the same way

[@rayrussell6064]

It's tough to see a iconic muscle car disappear due to the brute strength of the V-8s and that goes for any of them. Awesome content RACER-X keep up the awesome work you do for the muscle car community. God bless you and as always be safe 👍

[@RacerX9]

Thank you Ray

[@kyletyra6257]

Love how I saw the hellcat in the rear view mirror😂😂 sounds about right! Just playing! Love all American Muscle! Great Video

[@mistressplettetko]

Always putting out amazing videos with the best info. Thank you for always making such wonderful videos✌️✌️✌️🖤

[@23kartel30]

I’m laughing about how you intro the back seat 😂 🗣 really really small!!! love the reviews my guy 💪🏾

[@marcojordan7430]

I'm buy me a Camaro zl1

[@vondrelleraven4380]

Cmon buddy racer x. Lol that's alcantera sir. Top of the line

[@Usaamah_Haarithi]

So the ZL1 has been called a track car by track car guys… comes in just under a cppl Porsches, AMG GT and some other really nice cars… The Hellcat is a drag car… both nice cars for the price. However I have to say did everyone forget that the Viper is the fastest car around Nürburgring… I mean out of EVERY OTHER CAR… Why is nobody talking about this car it’s freakin awesome

[@RabatinLLC]

Cause it’s too rare, expensive, and no traction controllability

[@mikehoncho7165]

I drive a GT350. Sometimes I wish I would have gotten the ZL1 instead. Then I go for a spirited drive through the hills and forget all about the Camaro. I'm sure I would be happy with the ZL1 too, especially with more torque and h.p.

[@kyoakland]

The zl1 is way better then a gt350

[@RexxCollects]

They should have kept making these!!! We need competition to push eachother and the ZL1 is solid competition!!! They look real good and sound awesome!!! As always, great video!!!

[@wileecoyote5749]

They would make them if they are sold enough

[@daytonraught629]

@@wileecoyote5749 but gm doesn't market them sadly

[@Hull9]

@@daytonraught629 which is baffling, why not promote something you put so much time and money in producing.

[@daytonraught629]

@@Hull9 I know it blows my mind

[@matthewarcher9323]

The camaro Zl1 is my goal of investment after college. Right now I’m saving up for an ss.

[@chadpittman7826]

Awesome content buddy 👍💪

[@robertc4311]

Excellent review!

[@blue_kojira8981]

Whoever was doing the T pose stance in the reflection when you were going over the wheels. That had me laughing. Good vid!

[@andrewg.2165]

Hopefully taking delivery of mine next week! Got back on the list to order a 2024!

[@AceGreene]

I found you via a ZL1 review about a year ago. I’m purchasing whichever year is the final ZL1 and taking it to Lingenfelter for the 1000 hp Exorcist package. Can’t wait for you to review it! 😎

[@ebuttah5]

Umm that’s Hennessy your talking about

[@AceGreene]

@@ebuttah5 LOL, damn. I’ve been researching so many shops they’re running together.

[@AceGreene]

@@ebuttah5 going with Lingenfelter, though.

[@StrideX21]

He's right they do respond well to mods. The 2018 zl1 10 speed I used to have made 572whp and 570wtq with stock tune, cold air intake and mbrp cat back. With a tune on e40 from pray performance it made 649whp and 671wtq. Can't wait to get another

[@gabrielmora8358]

Pray performance is something else man ngl !

[@mr2hard2see]

I have a heavy modded supercharged camaro and love it. Thanks for repping for us chevy guys

[@sobelowtriplefo5623]

im gunna get one next year sheeesh great vid man

[@SovereignKnight74]

What a beast! Sounds great too! Still, the styling IMO seems farther off the path of the OG Camaro look. Perhaps it's the styling that is causing the sales to fall behind vs the Mustang and the Challenger? To some, looks are everything too. That said, There's no denying that the ZL1 offers a tantalizing display of agility and power. That would defiantly tick the appropriate boxes for fans! Great review, Racer X!

[@2011joser]

I think the styling is killing this great car. I’ve driven them and it feels like you are in a pit and the vision is really bad.

[@_Tra_B]

it's most well rounded car when you factor in cost, handling, technology, and just overall performance

[@JeepSrt-dr9fg]

Awesome video I’m still saving for the Hellcat 💯 both are awesome though

[@tflnorthamerica4585]

Just ordered a ZL1 1LE looking very forward to it! Already have the SS.

[@rioz1932]

I just purchased my first sport car ever I ended up getting a 2021 hellcat challenger my second runner up was the zl1 I’m a bigger guy so the challenger was the way to go fits me nice can’t believe they make something that will make a heavier man feel comfortable but if I was smaller I’d take a much harder look and probably might of went with the zl1 I think they are very nice and sad to see them go good video

[@davemurdock7727]

It definitely handles better! That’s for sure 👍🏻

[@MrFpsdestroyer]

I do like these zl1s, however I would want the previous taillights over the ones this one comes with.

[@justinkrizenesky]

17-18s

[@MrFpsdestroyer]

@@justinkrizenesky yeah I know, pretty much the only thing i don't like about the new ones, well and this goes for all the newer camaros honestly is the space on the inside and visibility otherwise great car

[@justinkrizenesky]

@@MrFpsdestroyer space is definitely different from a Mopar, but visibility is easily adjusted to, especially if you set your mirrors correctly

[@MrFpsdestroyer]

@@justinkrizenesky yeah thats why I like blind spot, because its hard sometimes, I went from a challenger to a kia stinger miss that car but some bad stuff happened when I had that car it wasn't from the car though, and then I got my mustang

[@camarochris78]

Yup but that updated tech in a 19 and up is 🔥🔥. J am not cool with newer lights either.

[@JUST_CALL_ME_D]

Quite honestly I’m in between both cars right now and a Z06 lol. The hellcats just have raw unleashed power. Whereas the ZL1 hooks and goes which is awesome. Thank you racerx for this video

[@6thgenbang]

Yea I respect Mopar and the sc 6.2 but my SS with basically a tune and headers I can dust them

[@TB-vb3ov]

BS. A tune and headers isn't beating a hellcat...that's like saying a tune and headers would beat a Zl1 lol It takes FBOs or a few bolt ons running E85 with a tune to keep up with a cat

[@Ericcarter42]

As a ZL1 Camaro owner I love the car and it’s very fast yes but I think for a lot of people is why is Chevy so afraid to put the matching horsepower in the Camaro that dodge and mustang puts in their cars they probably would have sold a lot more of them if they would have done so that’s just my take on it but they are an excellent car

[@bowinkle8316]

I so agree with u.

[@robertc4311]

I don’t even think it’s because of the horsepower, I think it’s because just like when they killed the 4th gens, GM follows the trends instead of the hearts. GM doesn’t know how or care to market it’s stuff. Except the trucks. When is the last time you saw a Camaro commercial? The big ass. Dodges sell because they market the cars based on heart. Look at the Dodge commercials, power slides, donuts, and general hoonin’. Who tries to copy that with dumb shyt street takeovers?

[@Ericcarter42]

@@robertc4311 I hear you but I definitely think it's because of the horsepower because if you look at the demon when it came out everyone jumped on it for bragging rights of having 840 horsepowerwhen the red eye came out everyone jumped on it and bragged about having nearly 800 horsepower when the Shelby GT500 came out with 760 horsepower everyone jumped on it but then you have the Chevy ZL1 Camaro with only 650 horsepower I guarantee if Chevy put 800 horsepower in a ZL1 Camaro everyone would jump on it guaranteed

[@CarLanguage]

I would’ve like to see how you build one of these x

[@jaybman2700]

Nice car, but I would definitely pick my hellcat over that “because I did lol“ to me the hellcat has a much fiercer road presence especially my wide body, but that’s just my opinion, but great video nonetheless

[@brandonsiniawski4619]

I love the ZL1, it’s such a good overall package, and it doesn’t take a lot to get them to run a good 1/4 time. JLSpeed got his to run 9.90’s with just a cold air intake, headers, drag pack, and E85/93 mix. It’s possible to run 8’s with that little baby blower. I got a 2019 SS, and I’d love to get a ZL1 but I think my next step is going to be a C8. I wish they’d put the LT5 in the Camaro but I don’t see it happening unfortunately 😔

[@wesd2845]

I heard it's happening with the 2024 model year. They're calling it 'The farewell package'. The LT5 is only going to be available in the zl1le model. Just Google 2024 Camaro farewell package. I'm keeping my fingers crossed as a lot can happen between now and then

[@D3RPZILLA]

Love my 21 ZL1... zero visibility issues especially with the camera rearview mirror for me. If you are 7' or 4' I could see having issues. As others mentioned, it can be a little tricky getting in and out if you are careful and don't want to bang up the tight Recaro side bolsters or hitting your foot on the wide side skirts, lol. The seat does have an option to auto back all the way for vehicle entrance and exit to make it easier for people who need that. I love almost everything about the interior minus the silver trim so I've been converting all of the silver into carbon fiber to spice things up a bit. Rear seats are fine.. I have no issues driving around with my kids (teens) in the back and I've sat in the back (passenger side with seat moved up pretty far of course). Would I want to sit back there for a 10 hour road trip? No, lol, I have an NV3500 for that :D The car is indeed pretty low to the ground and flares out wide so navigating a tight drive-thru can be a scary event haha... They def should of included a front camera in the grill or something! Anyways, great video!

[@dukesixtwo]

Drive-thrus are the worst in my ZL1, getting in and out is kind of awkward but coming from mopar myself. I dont regret a thing! Im FBO rn and its running beautifully!

[@D3RPZILLA]

@@dukesixtwo lol, yeah, I still don't trust myself in most drive thrus, haha.

[@StandngOnBusiness]

I love them zl1’s with that mad aggressive front, was thinking about getting one only thing is the size for me, I’ll hate to get one the regret it a few months later trying to trade it in for something bigger 😭

[@keiththarpe8291]

Good afternoon X! 🦇

[@robertc4311]

Great video! The only reason I didn’t make a ZL1 my 7th Camaro is because it is so hard to get in and out of when you have bad back issues. You got to be a gymnast...on the other hand, the Charger Hellcat is much more useful in the daily grind....the trunk on the Camaro was hard to put regular suitcases in...

[@oreos922]

The boat does have a lot of space

[@lucianoalvaradojr4605]

I currently have a 2020 Challenger Scat Pack Widebody. I am planning on getting either a Camaro ZL1 or a Challenger Hellcat Widebody soon. They are both great cars.

[@roostafish961]

I drove a ZL1 manual today because of this video. I have a C8 on order and was in to actually sit in and see a C8 in person. There was a ZL1 on the floor and we started talking about it and what I knew about it (thank you RacerX). Anyway, the salesman says, go take it out. Go get coffee and take it for a good drive. Make sure you have a big smile when you come back, you may change your mind on the car you get. Now I’m seriously thinking of buying the ZL1. We’re both skinny and we got the seats awesome. Like you said, it’s a great place to do business. The rear view camera makes all the difference in visibility. Now I have to decide whether to cancel that C8 order or not….

[@SocraticMind89]

Ilove both vettes and maros, IWOULD feel a lot safer in a Camaro than a Vette given it’s beefier nature

[@mrfedy4038]

Buy the ZL1 !!!

[@CrazyAboutVinylRecords]

Not better, not worse. Different. I recently bought a 2013 ZL1 Convertible with only 8,100 miles on it. It is currently at a local performance shop getting a bump to 660 rwhp: long tubes, lower crank pulley, cam, etc. Haven't driven it too much yet...we're just beginning to shed Winter here in New England...but I love the car. For reference, other cars I have owned over the last 4 years: 2016 Mustang GT, 2012 Corvette Z06, 2019 Challenger Widebody Scatpack. I hope to hang on to this ZL1 for a while longer than those. Lol.

[@jeffwilson5349]

Got a 22 ZL1. Wanted one since 2012! I drove the car from point of purchase to my house. I have not drove it since! Prolly sitting 6 months now.Unbelievable car , just hard as hell to get in and out of!!

[@nerychristian]

Why don't you sell it?

[@failingup4907]

Jeff, what you said isn't going to make sense to anyone! I have a C7 corvette and I have back issues and I can get in an out of that fine. A camaro should be even easier. How old are you, like 70?

[@stonewall3041]

9:17 the dude in the Ram thought you were playing with him. He had to come back & pass. 😄

[@randyromero7326]

I am a Chevy and Camaro fan I bought one last Camaro Z28s in 2002 and still have it.The ZL1 IS one of my favorites ,It is very sad to see it going away again ,I also have a ZO6 C6 CORVETTE absolutely love Ana a 72 Chevy Elcamino ss 496

[@christophercatuogno6615]

Sad to see Camaro go and prefer the personality of the ZL1 much more so than the C8 Z51. Trying to get my hands on a ‘23 ZL1 1LE but with all the constraints and supply chain issues, its takes some patience and work. Hoping orders can get placed soon. The ZLE will be a long term keeper next to the C8, especially if this is the end of the road for Camaro in general.

[@larrytaylor5488]

Gm please don't discontinue the Camaro it has so much more to give .

[@bighomie95873]

I love the ZL1, but I’m 6’5”, and it’s uncomfortable. My Challenger is the perfect daily driver for me. I also didn’t know the ZL1 had such a small displacement blower. Makes sense why folks commonly switch to the Magnuson 2650 blower

[@181le6]

Yup, it's a smaller blower, and they have to spin it a little faster. That's gonna create more heat. This is why it didn't work so well on the C7 Z06. More heat, and very little room under the hood for the supercharger and it's intercooler. That would allow the supercharger to become heat soaked, and put the car into limp mode. No good. That's why when they built the 755 hp C7 ZR1, they used a bigger 2.65 liter supercharger, so they don't have to spin it as fast, and they had to cut a hole in the hood, so they could now fit a nice fat cooling brick on top. They weren't gonna make the same mistake twice. Now everybody's putting a 2.65 liter SC like the magnuson tvs 2650. I'm not sure, but i think the hellcats and demons use a 2.9 liter SC?.

[@LETHALCAMARO44]

I’m 6’6 and I’m very comfortable in my Camaro

[@bighomie95873]

@@LETHALCAMARO44 and thick thighs? Weighing 280 lbs?

[@LETHALCAMARO44]

@@bighomie95873 I’m a twin my brother is a bit taller and about 230 lbs and he owns a camaro too

[@josephlutz6673]

I can say this I'm 6ft4 330 had a 16 camaro ss with the Magnuson on it was stolen in January was pushing 650 hp tomorrow I'm picking up 18 zl1 872hp I don't like the fill of the seats for a big guy but I wanted the car hope it widening out a Lil in time

[@samuelmcginnis3240]

9:18 you made that ram mad he try to come behind you and catch you lol 😆

[@randypleva2397]

Sad day when we lose these cars . Never thought I would see the day AGAIN!!!!!

[@timquick9147]

Beautiful muscle car but my problem with it is visibility and it’s tight interior maybe if it had the same interior space as a Dodge Challenger it might of been a more popular and successful then it’s competition

[@JUSTiNSWORLD]

Taking $1 MILLION DOLLARS Worth of Cars to a FAKE HELLCAT Meet... 🤣 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/poKmqaB3abOtms0

[@gummybear41283]

ya I sat in a Camaro and felt claustrophobic, the roofline is way too low and the doors are way too high. Then I sat in a Dodge Challenger right after and it was sooo much roomier and comfortable and the view is perfect

[@timquick9147]

@@gummybear41283 yeah they should of gave the Camaro more room

[@StreetCars101TV]

Do you think by them going away with the ZL1/ ZL1 1LE that they will go up in value?

[@jamesnichols9753]

I started my Camaro experience with a 67 SS and wish I still had it, but the X took it and sold it. My next was a 79 Z28, sold it to buy a house. Now I have a 2012 SS convertible, 45th Anniversary with only 17500 miles, and never seen a winter. Don't know if I'll be around when they do bring it back, but I hope so for the younger generation.

[@no_lft_shft]

I love the ZL1. As far as capable the ZL1 takes the cake. I have a hellcat and I still think the Camaro is just a more capable car.

[@redeasy55]

Zl1 have no top end speed i gap them on the regular 💯💯👍🏽👍🏽

[@BlackghostKiller]

@@redeasy55 yea from a roll not a dig race

[@jtc1964x]

@@BlackghostKiller Dig also - Hellcats, when on proper tires, consistently beat it in the 1/4. but you have to have the right tires

[@BlackghostKiller]

@@jtc1964x exactly you gotta change the tires on a HellCat because the car gets no traction and also remember this too i've seen many videos of dudes that changed the tires on their HellCats and they still couldn't gain traction and also it depends on pavement too keep that in mind as well

[@jtc1964x]

@@BlackghostKiller Agreed. I will say the ZL1 is more RELIABLE at putting its power down. GM's traction management system is vastly superior to the Chrysler-Benz ESP system. Dodge also puts really bad tires on the Hellcats - even the widebodies.

[@ricardof9394]

I have no issues seeing out of my ZL1 Camaro. I am 6ft 3 and 226lbs. As far as looking out the back window truthfully I never even adjust the mirror to use it, all I need to see is besides and in front of me.

[@Kawiboy]

New Sub 😉.. Enjoying the content 👊 👍.. OLD G

[@mmf9765]

I hope one day you can review the hertz Zl1, only 24 made, 750hp 739 tq

[@tawpruitt]

1st, I live in Mabank so id love to meet you. 2nd- i love my ZL1 (2018) and it’s bittersweet to see them go. As an owner, my unit just became more valuable but that means no new style to look at…not ever, and that sucks.

[@mikeriewer4722]

Fantastic hot rod

[@willgray3514]

Hurts my heart to see the Camaro ZL1 go. I'm a Mopar guy but grew up a GM fan.

[@smoothdrive3055]

😎 So.... What u sayin is that u a bandwagon gotcha!!!

[@christopherwilliams8991]

I own a 2018 ss camaro 50th anniversary hot wheels edition. 4 days ago , I bought a 2023 zl1.....I absolutely love this car! To the 5.0 mustang and turbo audi I left I the dust.....RIP

[@ocmotivator]

Great video! I’m partial to the Hellcat of course. 😈

[@RacerX9]

Lol.. thanks buddy 👍

[@vettesweetnos]

Camaro is a strange proposition, for a track car/twisty bits I'd go corvette, for a family car a charger redeye. No regrets with these 2 and a Z06 coming this summer.. If I couldn't afford both then a gt500 would be a good compromise.

[@edgarruiz5860]

I am a Camaro guy actually I have a 2SS 2017 and god is a monster. cant wait to buy a ZL1

[@masterbaiter7757]

Yes, in every way possible.

[@timothybrickley4025]

I traded my WB SP 6M for a ZL1, because the HC W/ WB 6M cost a lot more coin-two very different philosophies; love them both-can’t afford both 😁

[@readyon3506]

is it true that the 2023 Model is going to get a power upgrade? i heard 680 HP like the CTS Blackwing .

[@mont7481]

I've had both the ss and now the 2021 ZL1. I've been killing the stock hellcats and edging out the redeyes. The handling is amazing until the road is wet and cold, then shit gets scary. Didn't want the harsh ride of the 1LE, but definitely going to seriously increase the power and handling. I rented the hellcat and definitely did enjoy the power, but the handling was not as capable. I was torn between the mustang gt500 and the chevy zl1 camaro, so I finally chose the camaro and very happy with my choice. Been having a lot of fun

[@nerychristian]

How much?

[@That_80s_Geek]

Sad to see it go if it does. Iconic right along with Pontiac

[@jmmartin7766]

In my line of work, I've been fortunate enough to be able to drive several versions of the Camaro, as well as the Mustang, Charger, and Challenger. Of them all, the Camaro had the best acceleration and handling-- because it's built low to the ground like an actual "race car." That said, I also *disliked* it the most-- exactly because it *rode* like a race car... You could feel every nook, cranny, and small piece of gravel on the road. Imho, the one with the best combination of handling, ride and acceleration was the Hemi-powered Challenger SRT. Fwiw

[@raymondrocco8607]

No way the Camaro acceleration better than the New widebody Charger Redeye !!

[@StandngOnBusiness]

@@raymondrocco8607 those cars heavy af tho

[@jmmartin7766]

@@raymondrocco8607 I haven't driven any widebody's (although I am a fan), so I can't speak to that. Don't doubt it, though. 😎👍

[@raymondrocco8607]

@@StandngOnBusiness Don't matter !! Still faster !

[@satxgeesy]

@@raymondrocco8607 dicked out lmao

[@tomhorn1876]

What This Reminds Me Of...:"You can shut the gate on this one, Maxi. It's the duck's guts." It's even Black on Black.

[@paulcondie2520]

One with GM's magna ride suspension would be the closest thing to heaven! Lol I know the 1LE package is equipped with magna ride not sure about all. I have a 2015 Cadillac ATS premium performance with the magna ride, simply amazing

[@camirocz]

Zl1does everything well. Definitely the better all around car.

[@larrylewis7786]

Sorry to see it go, wish I could afford one ...😱

[@jeffnoob8448]

How did i miss this video

[@justdoinit2378]

We don’t buy these cars for the trunk space boss man lol. Great review man. Definitely loving the content on this channel. Keep the great videos coming brother. Take care.

[@therealmortgoldman2x418]

One is a sports car the other is a muscle. Both are beautiful.. but you’re right the zl1 will match the hellcat on straight line

[@xtexasxfightx]

The ZL1 is great. I have a C8 but have considered trading it for a ZL1 so I can upgrade the ZL1 to something like 850 HP. It's a sick car.

[@livinglife3230]

I’m kind of the exact opposite. I’ve got a ‘18SS MANUAL but I eventually want the c8. Not sure when I’ll get tired of changing gears though.

[@eugenejones5087]

@@livinglife3230 I traded my c8 for a zl1 and haven't regretted one minute of it. The zl1 is much more fun and powerful.

[@livinglife3230]

@@eugenejones5087 I know there’s a power difference from my SS but the zl1 pretty much looks the same. I test drove a ‘15 Vette when they came out & I felt crunched in there, I’m only 6’2. Is your zl1 manual or automatic? And if I got a zl1, that’s something else I’ll have to consider. My SS is not my daily so changing gears is nothing. If I got that c8, my excuse from not getting a manual is they don’t come in one, LOL

[@eugenejones5087]

@@livinglife3230 I have the 10 speed auto. I'm also 6'3 and I was cramped in the c8. The zl1 has a little more room but it's only a weekend car for me. I don't think I could drive it everyday because it's just too small. I will say it's just as fast or faster than a hellcat and most Vettes.

[@johnblack4915]

@@eugenejones5087 but u should have waited for the ZO6 right🤔?

[@jamesbottger5894]

Of the Muscle cars I like the Camaro the best by far. It's the best looking and it will out handle any of the others. Anybody can make a car that goes fast in a straight line...

[@dominicksforza3484]

In a word... YES!!! I've got the '17 ZL1 with the 10sp auto with every option except the engine block heater as I live in the south. The LT4 s very responsive to even the slightest modifications. The 1.7 sucks however, in '17 Chevy shipped 10% of the ZL1s with defective supercharger and after fighting with the incompetent dealership service a*shol*s i replaced 1.7 with the 2.9 whipple (rattling a bit which is normal but if I had to do it again id go with the Magnusson 2650), pulley, cat delete exhaust, custom performance tune and CAI for 647whp. Very low boost and it still more than fast enough, the extra 100+ hp makes it an even harder car to launch as it's a bitch even in stock 650hp mode much more so with 775 crank hp. It still gets 27mpg at 70mph. Over that it begins to drop off which is easy since this thing don't feel like you're going fast till you so easily and quickly hit 100+, you can floor it at 120 and still be thrown back in the recaros. I had a '15 SRT 392 Challenger that was a nightmare and after 2 years and 22 service calls the dealer just wouldn't fix it so Dodge ate it as a lemon law car. A real bummer as I'd been MOPAR most of my life, the last 3 cars I had were an '06 HEMI Charger R/T, a '13 HEMI Charger R/T MAX (the Dr Dre sound system was the best sounding car stereo I'd ever heard, to this day) and the '15 SRT 392 CHALLENGER. As beautiful as the CHALLENGER is I went for the '17 ZL1 rather than the '17 hellcat and I'm glad I did as it has 64000 miles and it is every bit as insane as it ever was. The only thing that mechanically went bad was the fans unit, there's 11 intercoolers on this thing to do away with the overheating problems the C7 ZO6 had, when the fans turn on it sounds like a damn jet plane but no matter how hard I drive it, even in high heat and humidity the temp guage never moves from its normal operating temp position. And YES, the guage is operating properly. The ZL1 is a true badass that never gets old and looks truly menacing on the road. I'd buy another one before I'd touch a hellcat, especially since Dodge still has quality control issues, after what happened to me and knowing from 2 friends who have hellcats that have been nothing but nightmares I'm even more comfortable with my daily driver ZL1.

[@N7-WAR-HOUND]

Awesome as always racer X shout out to the dealership for flying Blue and yellow

[@ChazGarrett391]

My father in law bought that car from them. Vicious machine.

[@morrisf3957]

Hellcat best muscle car . Camaro best pony car.

[@houstoncowdog]

I saw an orange one of these the other day at a stop light and it did look really cool. I do think they are a little over priced but I think there’s a pretty decent chance they’ll go up in value as V8 cars are phased out over the next several years. All that being said I think I’d opt for a a 991 instead for roughly the same price. It’s taking all the discipline I have to not order an orange LT-1 right now but I’m going to stay on target on finding a nice, lower mileage 991 911S that I can afford.

[@tawpruitt]

You should drive both. You may change your mind.

[@robertc4311]

I think you are tracking correctly with values...Porsche’s just keep on rising in value.

[@anthonymitchell6539]

Camaro site!! American muscle!

[@bigross0318]

The ONLY Thing I don’t like about my zl1 is the trunk opening is kinda small which I found out when I was running late for the airport. My luggage rode in the back seat hahaha but Definitely need to be mindful about what kind of luggage you have.

[@luciusael]

Legend...

[@SelectiveSocial401]

Are they going to replace the camaro or start from scratch again?