Is Too Much Exercise Science Killing Your Gains?

⁠‪@Dr__Pak‬ swings by the studio to refute all the bros and explain why scientific lifting is the shiznit!
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0:00 Intro
3:41 Is exercise science killing gains?
5:15 Being evidence based
10:40 Changing your mind
14:44 Where is the frustration?
18:41 Communicating Science
20:35 Wrap Up

[@MarkWiseTechno]

Intro segment is flawed. Greece's #1 export is Kyriakos Grizzly.

[@onurbole7921]

But he is not an export. He is omnipresent.

[@alpenjodel24]

@@onurbole7921 Kyriakos Grizzly is about 5% bodyfat away from actually physically being omnipresent around the world.

[@leonkennedy9739]

He is both the largest export and import depending on when he enters or leaves the country.

[@ctstmv1733]

We are not exporting him though. We are keeping him. Or to phrase it better, he keeps us

[@MarkWiseTechno]

@@ctstmv1733 😆😆😆

[@Daniel-pu1sd]

Next Video: Is watching the previous video killing your gains?

[@Leonardo_No_Cardio]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mikurusagawa6897]

Next video you'll watch is killing your gains

[@thatguysky123]

That sounds like an Athleanx video title 😂

[@RextheDragon881]

Is your use of eyeballs killing your gains?

[@DeadInsideDave]

oof

[@allenbrooks22]

The sexual tension of two bald men sitting this close is almost too much to handle

[@rikard4711]

You sure can cut it with a knife.

[@Theo5555]

think Pak has a boner in his pains

[@Fuq2]

@@rikard4711Or a circumcision blade

[@bytefu]

Gotta use that tension for growth. Third leg day?

[@Naru1987]

@@bytefu Bro, third leg day is the best!

[@PearlCityBeats]

"lets say you and I are on a date" "...are we not?" 🤣

[@ajmenadue2925]

With the dates and the dating stuff *thumbs up

[@reservedword1738]

Dude what the FUCK was that intro 😭 Am I on the FBI watchlist for just listening to it?

[@DeathsOrigin]

All Dr Mike fans are on a watch list. We're all here, they're watching us kill our gains

[@Dr__Pak]

Thanks for having me on real doctor. Glad to be killing everyone’s gains alongside the rest of the PhDs

[@GayBearBro2]

I'm a little sorry for saying this, but GOTTDAMN you're a gorgeous man, doctor.

[@heterodoxic]

​@@GayBearBro2 You're not sorry 😅

[@moises1514]

False​@@GayBearBro2

[@tpug1341]

@@GayBearBro2 most sorry youtube apology

[@GayBearBro2]

@@heterodoxic Only a little. I usually thirst over Dr. Mike, so Dr. Pak got the compliment because he was in the splash zone today.

[@oromani1842]

The ancient Greeks invented the three-way. The ancient Romans added women.

[@theotheodorou1374]

Women overrated

[@wesrobinson7506]

“Nobody tells you you have to be on a bosu ball, twerking at RIR 35” 😂😂😂

[@deanschanzenbach7506]

Most people are worried about the science and they can’t even get to the gym consistently

[@BaconManBruh]

People are worried about the science BUT for me anyways upon observation of various muscleheads it's that they don't really understand it fully like pieces are missing so the information was correct but it didn't digest well. You can be inconsistent and still make gains if you aren't really that serious about it and adding to injury bad technique and incomplete information pretty much hurts their gains. I know this dude he said YOU NEED PEDs like you won't grow without it like bruh no comment and he's getting pimples in his arms and near the elbows like bruh that's gnarly and sure he's gonna get bigger for sure but he's misguided so it hurts his gains and his size right now is easily attainable with noob gains its sad to see.

[@MoneyChanger02]

Me: “I need to learn more about exercise science. Let me check what Dr. Mike has to say.” Dr. Mike: “You ever seen a Mexican Donkey Show?”

[@jeffkilgore6320]

Arnold said it best, “Are you lifting?”

[@plixplux]

The original "Do you even lift, bro"

[@jarrod1687]

Do you even lift, man I miss the golden days of the misc

[@PaulSmithberger]

I have no problem with Science Based lifting. However, I think the main pitfall is falling in to a state of overanalyzing everything in lieu of putting in hard work.

[@Nivin-ut8zg]

On point, a couple of my friends how have looked the same for over a decade are always the ones who spew out the latest scientific paper. The ones who have made progress are the ones that just go in and train hard..

[@kaldordraigo4020]

@PaulSmithberger alot of it is that it looks good on paper but it doesn't translate to real life

[@User-54631]

So I can just add 2.5 lbs a week indefinitely? Never Plateau or reach a genetic limit?

[@qwerty-rh6ht]

​@@User-54631 waffling for a sake of it

[@NofirstnameNolastname]

None of this comment is grounded in science, only speculation and personal opinions.

[@galio2012]

I feel like Doctor Mike had 3 gummies before the filming of this video

[@dacarrico]

His videos should have little gummy logos in the corner as a rating, so I know how faded my man is

[@NofirstnameNolastname]

​@@dacarricohaha.

[@Fuq2]

He left 1.5 gummies left in the bag, RIR 8.5

[@HeadCannonPrime]

Dude says he takes CBD for his anxiety. He never said WHEN or HOW he takes it. He could be lit.

[@positivelynegative9149]

Worms or bears? 🤔

[@AM-bo2ns]

I feel like there's a sentiment like this in every field where educated professionals intermingle with people who just 'do it'. I'm a musician and come from a family of musicians and the number of musicians I know who are dead-sure that learning music theory or even just how to read traditional sheet music is going to 'kill' their ability to write or perform well is staggering. Excuses abound about how it'll take away the 'passion' or 'emotion' or whatever. For much of his life it included my own dad!! Very awkward considering my mom was a classically trained opera singer. Reality is that knowledge is always power and it's what you do with it that matters

[@alyakblu3]

Such a pet peeve of mine! It’s like someone wanting to be a chef but refusing to learn the names of vegetables and kitchen utensils. Like yeah you could but you could just make it easier on yourself

[@JackTheRabbitMusic]

Every musician needs to know about Swedish Inverted Triplets and half-demented augminished chords. It’s silly that musicians don’t know, but understandable; most popular music today is just pushing a few buttons on the old iPad, along with some cut and paste. 😂 Seriously though, I agree with you. 🫡🎸🎶✌️

[@RagingCookie127]

It's a funny arrogance when it comes to music, because when it comes to "playing from the heart" the main example people point to is probably Blues - a category where almost all of the greats had an understanding of music theory.

[@user-uw8uy5oe7r]

Yes, but if you like theory a bit too much then you stop practicing. I agree with you but overtheorizing every single detail is a very, very real thing. Theory and practice should go hand and hand.

[@donaldbayley4162]

"They're not even intentionally straw-manning, they just don't even know what it is they're criticizing." What an apt description of so many elements of modern culture, especially arguments around politics and economics.

[@naturalyogi]

That might be the greatest intro in the history of the Internet.

[@mikurusagawa6897]

It's a fever dream

[@kwerby3285]

Just 3 and a half minutes of uninterrupted classic DrMike bullshittery 😂

[@molseren]

While not a direct issue of scientific training, i definetly think that focusing too much on training in a scientifically perfect way, can lead to overcomplicating things to the point of disencouraging people from getting fit. So much of the fitness space is maximalist in its goals, you eat 1gram per lb of protein, you workout 3-4 times a week, you try to eat bioavailable food sources, you try to perfect your meal timing.. at some point, at least in my experience, you can focus so much on optimisation that you forget the thing that actually makes you progress: going to the gym and lifting heavy objects. Ideally with good technique. If you end up with this all or nothing approach, which ive seen some friends fall into, you can end up limiting yourself in the name of perfection. "Oh no, i only went to the gym twice this week, guess it was all for nothing, i'll just quit entirely". The endless search for optimisation can make normal folk just completely zone out, which is sad, cause you could probably get 80% of the way there, even if you might not eat all your proteins one day, or you lower your volume. Again, not a critique of science, more of how we relate to it.

[@HeadCannonPrime]

That is the same in the weight loss world. People slip up one day and then go eat a cheesecake because they couldn't be "perfect". But the truth is you get 90% of the benefit just by showing up and trying. The only BAD workout is the one that you didn't do.

[@jasonisfamous6544]

True

[@serop43]

This same principle can be applied with everything in life. Go to any therapist, listen to any ancient wisdom it’s always SMALL daily changes that are measurable over time. Nobody is sustaining a weight loss diet but Ozempic is easy. Lazy

[@littleratblue]

Yes and no. RP's content is, specifically, focused on bodybuilding. If you want to compete in competitions, then you need to outperform your competitors and, if even one of them is following science-based guidelines, then they're going to kick your butt if you're just doing "stuff in the gym" and your only real goal is to "get stronger" so you can "impress the ladies". Lessons in how to compete as a professional-class bodybuilder in high level competitions is a very different context than, say, how to live a healthy life or look good enough to attract attention. For those contexts, sure, these details are largely irrelevant and more likely to throw you off than to help you. Maintainability is a key concern with health. Fashion, skin care, confidence levels, etc. are as or more important for dating goals. I don't think that RP is anything less than clear that their focus is on teaching you how to optimize for hypertrophy. Likewise, a channel on preparing food, in bulk, for thousands of people in a single sitting might make it absolutely clear that, that's what they're teaching. If you show up looking for general fitness or general cooking guidance, and instead are showing up to listen in on advanced level stuff for specialized scenarios, you're going to get thrown off. Most of us aren't bodybuilders, looking to pack as much physical, dumb meat on our skeletons as it will hold. Treating their information like it's generally applicable to our everyday fitness regimen is coming into it with an unreasonable mindset.

[@Rohit_23-h6n]

I've watching the channel for 3 months and training accordingly, the results are very pleasing to me, Thank you RP🙌

[@srleplay]

Everyone knows that every month Science magazine publishes new lifting guidelines and makes old ones ineffective, like Apple did with iPhones, so you have to continue subscription

[@danielbarnes8514]

Exactly Instagram and KZbin has replaced those now. One month it’s do high reps, next month low reps, next month high carbs, is the thing, then low carbs. They space them out so people don’t pick up on the contradictions, so to keep selling and selling.

[@dassolosyndikat5113]

​@@danielbarnes8514 It's all a scam do whatever you want however you want. I train my own way and never listened to anyone and i'm built like mike tyson literally without a trainer steroids or any type of enhancements it's all about the will.

[@christophegroulx7816]

@@danielbarnes8514 Load under tension and high carbs, that's been the meta for a while

[@jasonisfamous6544]

​@@danielbarnes8514lol when lifting magazines were still a thing i could read 2 saying the opposite things at the same store.

[@user-bl9tg2vu6v]

Bro, your videos are gold.

[@jordanbeck6628]

The shake weight at the back 💀

[@LykeArgy]

Yes im not the only one ...

[@Fuq2]

That’s the post workout, workout. Vanilla shake at the end, super thick.

[@zackmeaders6199]

The anti science lifting scene basically boils down to lower ROM and quicker eccentrics. When I do bent over barbell rows all the science goes out the window and I just power through it

[@xander4644]

Same. No amount of studies will convince me to keep my chest on the pad for a chest supported row

[@Micheldied]

Honestly most anti-science boils down to "thinking is bad", because being detail-oriented is a horrible thing, or something.

[@IronMic-ee4kt]

And that's why you have the physique of a 14 year old girl

[@IronMic-ee4kt]

Well that's why you have the physique of a 14 year old

[@kalterverwalter4516]

lower Rom Like partials which is also scientific?

[@paddy3622]

paralysis by analysis.

[@survivethrive2468]

💯

[@_baller]

Nippard is the Frodo of KZbin fitness

[@WtbgoldBlogspot]

My favorite episode of RP is the one where Mike talks about Greece for a loooong time

[@GFMarine]

Damn, so you're telling me that my daily 10 hour tricep workouts are too much?

[@kwerby3285]

10 hours might be cutting into your sleep. Try 8 instead.

[@Vacated204]

“ITS AN 8 HOUR ARM WORKOUT”

[@onurbole7921]

In my experience, after 5 and half hours it starts to get counterproductive. But it is anecdotal so don't trust me.

[@HeadCannonPrime]

Dr. Mike: After 2 hours it starts to get chaffed.

[@JackTheRabbitMusic]

I do the 16/8 thing; train for 16 hours/sleep for 8 hours. Triceps should get at least 6 days of work every week, at 100+ sets of 78 reps.

[@tomvandongen8075]

I had just this second put my violin bow down and picked up a needle of Tren, thanks Dr. Mike!

[@TheHybrid350]

great collab, Dr. Pak is great

[@paulwitt8186]

I see both sides of the debate. I believe in science, I think the work you both do is important, but I think those labeled as “anti science” are just exhausted with all the information out there. Like a lot of things in life and the fitness, industry, people on both sides of the issue talk past each other but ultimately say the same thing. Dr Mike basically said it at the end of the video. Get in the gym, do what works for you, and go hard. That’s exactly what Sam Sulek would tell you. Sam would say dont over think it and don’t use “science” as an excuse not to go hard. He gets labeled anti science when he is really saying the same thing as Dr Mike.

[@kurts3252]

Eric Bugenhagen has entered the chat

[@eltrain8694]

Bout' to comment the exact same thing. I'd love a Dr. Mike/Boogs collab!!

[@tonysims9892]

It's a mindset! Just horse-cock the weight to be thick as frick!

[@MGD313]

MINDSET will never kill your gainz.

[@kengurney5725]

this whole video is pencil neck shit. /s

[@mcfarvo]

It's about the mindset. If you want to hoist enormous loads, then pencilneckology will make horsecockery less probable.

[@user-dz8id9gp3p]

I think you guys are undervalued. I come from a culture of little to no information or insight… Guys like dr mike and 3DMJ taught me how to train how much volume… the importance of recovery…. The basic principles brought so much clarity and joy… thanks guys. You are doing a great job

[@RjTheTrigun]

I didn't have Dr Mike Isratel talking about donkey shows on my bingo card for today but hey 2024 is going well

[@neco5740]

The thing I realised is that it doesn't matter how optimally you lift if you don't do the work. I can look at gym bros and judge their ego lifting range of motion of 5 cm for all I want they still have 3 times my arm circumference because they have been training triceps 5 times a week for the last 5 years. My technique and training is maybe more efficient set for set, but If I train arms only every blue moon at the end of my session for a few sets then it's no wonder they are my weakest part.

[@drchef9544]

Still they worked like 5 years only for 4cm of extra biceps and still they injury themself every 6 month

[@emmang2010]

Yes finally! What I've been listening to for some episodes on Iron Culture for a while now.

[@RealGregJamesBeam]

Thanks for the content.

[@Yupppi]

Exercise science is killing me. Today I did the squat day from the old free Greg Nuckols' Stronger by Science powerlifting program and walking back home I was pretty sure I wasn't gonna make it.

[@superredhawk43]

New to the channel, but I think a good followup video/discussion for this video would be describing study design in exercise science. What makes a good study vs a bad study, what are common limitations and what implications does this have on data, how do we interpret data, what are challenges associated with running studies, maybe some ethics, etc... Im sure hundreds of videos already exist on these topics, but the Dr Mike perspective would be informative and funny.

[@Konstantinos143]

Dr Pak, nice to meet you sir. Never new you existed before

[@faildozer6288]

Great video. Dr Mike gives measured takes for the most part saying marginal or substantial improvement more often than massive or something hyperbolic. Jeff gives them god damned percentages though. Dr Pak has that big stoic euro sense of humor and im here for it.

[@happym5717]

Some of the jokes were low key out there today. 😂. Dr Pak is the perfect Collab for Dr Mike.

[@jkalinsky11]

Dr Mike love you, yr best ever. I want to say I just saw your back and chest video with Chris willamson and it's one of your best videos ever. Just you guys bs ing is awesome. Pls do more of these on your channel

[@cherriagana]

So Mike knows about strength,hypertrophy, anime and now correctly using a reference to transistors and voltages :D.

[@daze4135]

Next video: Is killing your gains exercise science?

[@ChrisScherf213]

I didn’t know I needed that intro so much until I heard it 😂

[@Philusteen]

As a fat 57 year old (formerly morbidly obese), I'd just tweak the "preference" pillar to be "preference and response," because it's not just about what I want to do, but also a) what works that I DON'T want to do, and b) how I'm feeling and responding. It's that final piece in the science-forward process: what's actually happening and how to either nurture it or nuke it. Cheers! 🖖

[@_baller]

I think the main reason why people might shy from science based lifting or whatever, is it tends to be, slower tempo, deeper stretch, focus on mind muscle connection, and perhaps even odd exercises, and minimal momentum, while the more gym bro muscle bound vibe, just goes for that “heavy ass weight” and makes it move, so it’s like the science stuff is somewhat limiting in ones potential, unless of course someone is on steroids then it goes further, but this is why I incorporate nearly all forms of training at one time or another, because I find them all valid, and the denominator being minimal RIR, intensity, and progressive overload….

[@christophegroulx7816]

Minimal RIR is not supported by science

[@_baller]

@@christophegroulx7816 you’re dumb

[@riverludington5293]

Dr.Mike, make an order of importance chart for exercise variables: Top priority (Big differences): Consistency, Progressive Overload Bottom Priority (Minuscule differences): A small emphasis on the stretch position

[@_baller]

You know what I find funny about long length partials, those aren’t actually valid for complex movements, take the bench press for example, the long length partial, is actually just training in the chest “zone” of the movement, of course it’s going to grow the chest more, the full range of motion requires other muscles to assist and engage taking tension off the chest, just lift the damn weight lol

[@andy3410]

Can’t wait to hear Lyle’s response to this!!!

[@TracySnitker]

When I started looking on KZbin I was looking to learn make sure I was doing exercises right and get the best information and I found that with jonni, Dr Mike and Jeff nippard

[@VangaroZeon]

Dr. Mike was on a roll xD

[@tommywolfe2706]

I was a distance runner in high school and I was pretty good. I ran a couple dozen times a week, 3 times in the morning before school, twice a week during school (PE test) and for my practices after school, and then a few nights a week I would run after practice before bed to burn anxiety. I ran for 2 hour timed runs, just running as fast as I could, I ran 40 miles one weekend while on vacation with my family I quit running after high school and started working out 5 days a week, muscle groups broken down. I gained 25lbs in one summer. Then I plateaued. All that running made me feel the need to keep working that hard all the time. But what I did was go down in the length of the workouts and the frequency.....push exercise days and then pull days and leg day. I gained another 20lbs in the next year or two and then plateaued again. So, I started super setting. Back/triceps, chest/biceps, leg day and then a deadlift day. Then 3 days off. I gained another 20lbs. My dead got up to 415 for 3 reps too, strongest I had ever been. My quads got up to 32" while my waist was 34" inches. Nitro tech, cell tech and tuna was all I took as well, no other supps. I also have worked with CNS overload in my lifting and have gotten my body out of a funk with that. You have to keep it guessing. You have to make it work hard.

[@JRRichards123]

Thanks guys

[@bartekj3657]

When will dr. Mike compete in the bodybuilding show that he's getting ready for?

[@austink4596]

I think the criticism of science based lifting comes from a perceived lack of intensity. This can come from some individuals who use science based lifting as an excuse to half ass a lift. Just because you lift with lower weights and better form doesn’t mean you don’t have to push yourself hard af to see results.

[@movestattoo4561]

No it doesn’t. A big part of criticism is overcomplicating very simple things. But content creators have to do that because they rely on views to make money. Also there is a lot of criticism on exercise science because there is a ton of issues how the studies are conducted.

[@danielbarnes8514]

@@movestattoo4561it’s like, if I make something so confusing only I can make sense of it, well then that means you get to pay me to explain it to you.

[@paulwitt8186]

Well said. This is exactly it. Those labeled “anti science” don’t believe the world is flat, they just don’t over think things, and understand the importance of consistency and going hard. And that is really what Dr Mike said at the end of the video.

[@hubismaximus]

I think the other thing about "disagreements between scientists" is that the nature of those disagreements is very different from "Bro Lore". It should be, by the nature of scientific reasoning, a disagreement over something measurable and quantifiable: the specificity of a specific experiment, the way the data is being interpreted, the broadness with which those interpretations can be meaningfully applied. The disagreement itself is in a sense a form of knowledge -- about the limits of the existing work and about the context and systems it exists in. Bro Lore is at best pseudoscience and superstition, and at worst some version of "I'm just built different".

[@isaiahdanz3308]

The main issue that occurs with exercise science is the same with most; people don’t think about the findings deep enough, with enough free plasticity and wit about the implications and steel manning the counter implications. Good literature and philosophy is what for centuries, was meant to complement science, and namely, to coagulate a truth, for even one truth takes centuries to attain in each respective culture. What I have philosophically outlined so far with the science-has been the following: Firstly, albeit no sequence is really needed, one must focus on as great technique as possible, but also allow some failure to occur when reaching muscular failure. Secondly, plan or have most exercises in which you progressively overload in strength, volume, and intensity of controlled eccentric and concentric movements (emphasizing the former until it’s no longer possible, then finish with the ladder as priority, known as lengthen partials). Thirdly-use subjective and objective parameters to assess if the stimulation (pump) is solid in contrast to how fatiguing you may be (volume control). Fourthly assess the intensity benefits and costs that all movements have, some exercises may be more easier variations, to avoid joint pain or injury, but they come with the cost of losing intensity, here, emphasizing masterful technique can reduce this cost and benefit discrepancy. Finally, do hands on experimenting, understand what exercises does everything for you, and when to adapt. The science needs to be philosophically thought out to interpret properly, otherwise, you’ll get narrow mindedly stuck in each study, almost like a maze.

[@toddapplegate3988]

Great example of science describing in better detail is lengthened partials (full rom, lat shrugs, Arnold "get a full stretch", Platz "deep squats", all hinting at the science) but then study says hey this what they are saying.

[@ithk9496]

sometimes after dr. mike says something all you can do is pause the video, put your head in your hands, and just sit there for a while processing.

[@valdrfears5266]

Mike has always been hilarious but this intro was absolutly insane lmfao

[@DjDolHaus86]

I feel that a lot of people don't really understand how scientific literature actually works, like the basic "Aim, method, results, conclusion" nature of things and how to interpret them in the real world

[@JackTheRabbitMusic]

The only stipulation is that you may not eat from the tree of knowledge.

[@nitinnair4353]

Could you please do superhero workout plan videos for Captain America, Spider-Man, Aquaman, and Deadpool or Wolverine.

[@guillaume4519]

Even if I weren't interested in muscle gain, I would be pretty interesting about how you explain things and point out the lack of logic or should I say the "traps" for logic that invaded the social networks (and even IRL discussion). With a lot of instant 18+ humor !

[@ericmalitz]

The issue, historically, is that the studies are flawed. We are walking around with a huge amount of bad information like “don’t squat below parallel,” “avoid the low back,” etc.

[@dant3232]

this is a important video for keeping perspective that most guys wont watch because there is no secret for bigger biceps

[@nachobed]

As an apprentice electrician, your transistor example caught me really off guard 😂

[@stephenbrock5836]

I liked a lot of what was said here, despite all the joking around - which I also enjoy. And, to me, I think Exercise Science is a lot like Systems Engineering. That is, what is "best" is determined by the person designing and what the desired outcome is. I know I've seen other videos on the differences between strength training and hypertrophy training. They aren't the same. The out come is different. Doesn't mean that one is better than the other, it's just a matter of what the person wants. And we all get to pick what that is - high strength, huge upper body, best "all around" body, whatever. Saying that science can get the "perfect" workout is like saying that a Lambo is the PERFECT car (I know Dr. Mike will say it is), but what if you have a spouse and four kids? Not sure that the Lambo will be the best option. So take it all in, and use what makes sense for your specific goals.

[@henrismith7472]

Nice Calvin & Hobbes tattoo Greek man!

[@DeBedschbacher]

Yo Doc, double "is" in the title!

[@ZachSeaman]

13:34 “Same” I felt that 🥺

[@TheHappyhorus]

Dr Mike, does this mean we’ll be seeing the RIP 🪦 Hypertrophy APP soon? 😂 I know your gonna laugh but I’m back at the gym (kept fit at home) after 20 years and just got back to 16in natty arms in 5 weeks training from like 15.1/4’s inch. Anyway watching your videos is giving me lots of motivation dude so thanks man 🙏

[@ThatsNotVeryFunnyLol]

The thing thats crazy to me is that people act like they cant form their own opinions, come to their own conclusions, do their own research. You can hear, study, etc whatever you want. Once you gather that information, its up to you to decide what to do with it. Apply it and see what works for you.

[@alonzoking6124]

Dr.Mike could you cover gaining muscle with range of motion limitations due to injury? I have rods and pins in my legs, but it’s been 10 years since my original injury.

[@strongmen]

Interesting timing, Jeff Nippard just released a video "The Most Ridiculous Attack on Science-Based Lifters".

[@PenguDZN]

where

[@Veran42]

@@PenguDZNon his shorts

[@WooliteMammoth]

Conspiracy???? I think so.

[@gustavogomezied3]

He’s just mad cuz the horsecock man trashes his videos.

[@Fuq2]

Imagine being so self inclusive and narcissistic that you have to make a self appointed split between “smart science based lifters” and regular ones…

[@timbeech2056]

What exercise science has to say about the technique of specific lifts is of infinitely less value than motivation and I find that I have to pick one or the other. Slow eccentrics, low weights, pauses in the stretch position etc do not motivate me to lift. They don't motivate me to turn up to the gym. I've done those things for years in the past and continued turning up out of discipline, but I lifted less weight and felt capable of less volume because my nervous system seems to down-regulate with the shear "meh" of it. I take some lessons from those years for sure but the biggest thing I learned is that you need to enjoy how you lift. It makes your sessions better and it makes you keep turning up for them consistently over time which is the single most important thing. If you don't enjoy lifting with the techniques espoused by the science-based types, do what you enjoy instead. It will work better for you.

[@beingofstrange]

this all day. plus, if you look at ALL the studies, theyre always on newbie lifters and never/rarely talk about diet, height, individual neuro muscular firing for each person, levels of testosterone, NOTHING. after 3 years of lifting who knows if your body doesnt do well with slow progressing crap, everyone that looks good seems to be horse cocking weights around, honestly

[@dubCanuck1]

Heya Doctor Mike. I'd be interested in a video on training/retraining to overcome asymmetry caused from athletic training. For instance, I played hockey. I shot right-handed and by the time I was like 11 years old, I had shot several hundred thousand pucks. I also checked primarily with my left shoulder. This caused my left shoulder/trap/delt/pec to become way more prominent than my right. Although I'm right-handed, my right-side's ability stabilize, and lift is quite a bit less, and the connection with the muscle is far less. I probably got some junk advice as a youth about not training asymmetically to strengthen one side vs the other (and gain size). I feel like any athletes who played "sided sports" could probably benefit from it.

[@mikehawkslong5529]

Ah yes, the thumb thumb is back. Blessed be it i am🤙🏽

[@Ricky_Rick123]

I'm going on vacation for one week, and I was thinking about training extra hard to failure for my last 2 workouts before the week off. This way I can spend one week recovering. Does that make sense?

[@primejoyofbearding2128]

I cant even begin to comprehend what things came to Dr Mike's head during the first 3 minutes of this video 😂

[@EarhirX]

It is a great video overshadowed by an amazing comment section

[@jackwebster9381]

The issue affects beginners mainly. They just need to bench press and bicep curl and they’re good. But they’re getting overloaded with information about reps in reserve and what time to eat. It’s already daunting enough for them to get in the gym where (in their mind) everyone else is jacked and knows more than they do. It does feel the deck is stacked. And then those intermediates who just enjoy training get some random guy disturbing them to give them advice they never asked for. But for those of us with the necessary interest, the science stuff is super useful and fascinating.

[@surreshk]

Ocki the editor guys 😂😂 Bro a true NYer

[@NickNovisky]

Dope calvin and hobbes tattoo on dr. Pak’s forearm tho

[@ZinoxOneWay]

I adopted the “short god” from the video with Jeff 😂😂

[@Cduboi61]

Can you do a video on athletic based training Ex: gaining/ maintaining muscle while also competing in competitive sports. I play semiprofessional lacrosse and most of the season we play 2-3 games a week. In the off season I am able to stick to my routine quite well but in season it is difficult to fit in training sessions without the risk of impacting my performance in games/practices. Most of my time outside of playing is forced to be spent on recovery and I fear that I lose muscle since I’m not doing direct training.

[@esembee7717]

Social media amplifies different opinions and leads to people choosing sides/camps, as if supporting sports teams. Lots of us consumers of fitness social media content are maybe foolishly searching for the optimum magic bullet for gains, and buy into the camp that aligns with what we want to do/hear. Ultimately a half decent workout program, done consistently will work for most of the gym going population.

[@MisterCynic18]

9:30 I think that's the core of it. Most people would prefer to be in a cult than have to sort through uncertainty and doubt.

[@TheGreektrojan]

100% This applies everywhere and why everything seems so fractured. People are fundamentally uncomfortable with uncertainty and they seek out whatever source they can find that can sell them narratives of certainty. Science backlash is because it wasn't as absolute as people thought it was. Most of the 'just lift bro' subset of lifting advice is actually more convoluted and complex than the evidence based stuff, its just they want to keep their own narratives running.

[@Moose92411]

Oh boy, that note that people who flock to science tend to be the people who are uncomfortable with uncertainty hit me HARD. I've done exactly that, but thankfully I'm educated enough to understand that there are no certainties. That's a tough pill to swallow for some folks.

[@EyeseeUriP]

It works because lift heavy weight build muscle, has always worked lol. The body will do what it does, without the need for the knowledge part. I mean I look at both of you and think, if this is what having scientific knowledge makes me look like, I don't want it LOL.

[@RJB_TV]

wildest intro in RP history?

[@VonW0lf3N5t31N]

Aha! I knew I needed more high RIR bosu ball twerking in my program!

[@mugshotmarley]

It took 2 gym bros to make a comment about how I was lifting. So heavy where Im dying by the 6-7th set to the point where Im sacrificing technique for half the set. Dropped down my weights between 15-20% and it supercharged my gains. Maybe cause Im nearing 40 but trying to lift like I did in my teenage years 5 days a week wasn't optimal

[@DavidWied]

Just watched a 1 hour Cbum video with 1 ad 14 min here with 4 ads how much money do you need bro??

[@squabdiggity743]

Why are you watching any ads at all? I haven't seen an ad on youtube in like 5 years, lol!

[@Mylo2001]

I just do what Dr Mike tells me to do, back lifting 2 years I'm already bigger and stronger than most dudes in my gym 💪

[@JoeMazzolaTheFirstPersonCook]

A good lay person explanation is that science isn't a list of facts, its a process of trying to sift through the noise to get closer to what's going on - so if we did know everything there wouldn't be any need for science anymore

[@AllTheHandlesTaken]

Wait, we need public links? Damn. I expected my critics to have access through their institution.

[@sp3llb]

Could you, pretty please with sugar on top, do a review video of action bronson training and nutrition? And make sure Scott the video guy finds the video where he goes to a pizza place to make a video about the food they make and brings his kettlebells and makes the cooks train with him. The original video is already hilarious.

[@sp3llb]

Couldn‘t leave it to scott the video guy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYC0hoiveLenn6csi=yWRUpcJS7biaLw4n

[@Gnom882]

Please make a video about at wich point science deviates from personal training, if it does. Reason is science is researching what works on average for everyone. We often have the "problem" that science "break" when we look at extremely gifted lifters. Those outliers who semingly can do what they want an gain muscle. I think it wolud be helpfull for the topic to explain how deviation is known in exercive science ( not everything is gaussian) so it might be clearer for people to understand why somethings work for all but at soem point you need the experience with your own self to progress further.

[@Mark-ks9jj]

Intelligent individuals will ALWAYS have healthy disagreements, its one of the main hallmarks of us.

[@jesusvaldez8677]

nobody: AthleanX: SimpLy eXisTinG iS KilLing yoUr GainS!