Is war between China and the US inevitable? | Graham Allison

Taking lessons from a historical pattern called "Thucydides's Trap," political scientist Graham Allison shows why a rising China and a dominant United States could be headed towards a violent collision no one wants -- and how we can summon the common sense and courage to avoid it.
Check out more TED Talks: www.ted.com
The TED Talks channel features the best talks and performances from the TED Conference, where the world's leading thinkers and doers give the talk of their lives in 18 minutes (or less). Look for talks on Technology, Entertainment and Design -- plus science, business, global issues, the arts and more.
Follow TED on Twitter: / tedtalks
Like TED on Facebook: / ted
Subscribe to our channel: / ted

[@Zarozian]

War won't really happen unless the US wants it to. I also believe what's most important is communication and actually talking to them and negotiating with them fairly and reasonably so that we are both fully understood. The moment communication stops is the moment where people begin to think and assume the worst and jump to conclusions and this is how wars begin. I also wanna add that most people around the world are generally similar. In fact, the younger generations have far more in common with others around their age all around the world, than with any other older generations before it. The only barriers that really stands between us and everyone else are pride, prejudice, and language barriers. Eliminate those three things and we would have a united people of Earth. I also truly believe that the United States must be number one, as we are almost like a miniature Earth with--- not a melting pot, but a mosaic of different people from all around the world. None of us here in the US were rich or of noble or royal descent otherwise, our ancestors would have stayed in their country of origin. We were either exiled, poor, and unwanted people, people who wanted to start anew again, people that wanted freedom and fled from our oppressors back home. Though we were different we were also the same, we were not the best of the best, but we came together and build something great. We tenaciously pursued our ideals of freedom, justice, and liberty for all. That is why China calls us "Meigoku" the "beautiful country", not because our country and its people are beautiful, but the ideals and dreams that it was built upon is beautiful, along with the people who believed in them.

[@kelvin545]

Hope for peace

[@Zarozian]

@UCV7DTox43bcs-OxF_4B4dHg Well in my opinion CNN and BBC are mostly leftist and democratic while Fox is definitely conservative but also the only conservative social media out there. If you really want the full picture you would have to look at them both. But also keep in mind that news networks can become biased and corrupt just like governments, so it's wise to not fully trust whatever information is given. Most people in the US have finally caught on to all this and they see how they have been twisting and skewing facts and pushing things out of context. People were just too easily swayed, whether it be through social media pure pressure or through fear and paranoia. I would say Republicans are the ones who plan in the long term while Democrats only look for short term solutions. While their solutions may seem good on the outside, they cause lots of problems in the future. If I were to make an analogy, it would be a lot like the trains here in NYC. We have the liberal democrat who's holding the door open on the train at a crowded train station to let the people in, while the conservative republican is telling them not to do that. So on the surface the liberal seems like the good guy doing a good thing, we can both agree on that and so do conservatives, but what the liberal doesn't know is that when he holds the door open, he holds up all the trains behind it in other stations, causing all the stations and trains to get crowded and delayed, which leads to the issue that we deal with at our train stations today with the overcrowding of the station and the train due to the trains running slow because of these individual people who think they are helping when all they really did was make a lot of people late.

[@Zarozian]

As for the immigration caravan down south. The Republicans don't want them in here because we are a welfare state, and since they are coming here seeking shelter and asylum they will not work and therefore they will not pay taxes. So who will pay for them in the end? Us the Americans, and we certainly can't afford to do so, fortunately Americans realize this and this is why Mexican-Americans are protesting so strongly against them coming here because they know that we will all be the ones suffering for it in the end. It's bad enough that the Democrats keep people on welfare in a form of debt-enslavement where they can never get out of it, in order to keep their votes, which is why they wanted to let the caravan in, because to the Democrats they see them as future Democratic voters which will give them more power in the future. Fortunately the American people are smarter than that and well aware of it, which is why they will never succeed.

[@Zarozian]

@@kelvin545 Hopes and prayers do nothing for anyone. Watch this video "WW2 BATTLEGROUND: Japanese Invasion of China 1937-1944" and you can learn a thing or to from the Chinese during WW2 against the Japanese. It was unity and acting together as one that got them through WW2 and it was also what got humanity to where it is today. When people gather together and make sacrifices, a true miracle is born, a miracle made by man.

[@nunya257]

Zarozian Thank you for sharing that. I had never thought of that perspective at all. Very interesting and thought-provoking.

[@rustyudder]

I just fought in a war, I'm still tired from the deployment. I learned a lot from the time I've had around the people. We can grow together. No need to create another dark age scenario

[@rustyudder]

Um humans are one race, unless you are referring to our mammal friends we carefully breed for use.

[@rustyudder]

As someone who has collaborated with many nations for one goal. I know that there's little difference between me and another man from somewhere else. I served in the 82nd airborne, and 4th infantry division respectively. I served with people from all over the world and of many cultural backgrounds. This is America after all.

[@NotUnymous]

Yeah, John milks, but you needed to participate in war to get this far - something Most Western civilians won't untill it's to late

[@NotUnymous]

@MrKalashnik0va Well, US is Friends with Germany now, isnt it? Should be worth to at least try it, If the alternativ is WWIII, No?

[@america795]

when war do comes between us and hisAsian allies against china!all you gotta do is just lend us your airforce and the groundforce will be from asian allies.

[@jamesbernards8409]

This guy is coming to my university to speak this thursday. I have got chills of excitement

[@ralphnicolailatorena1151]

What happened?

[@earthalienzapa3237]

Lost intrest back to other earth K2 -18B

[@jct3439]

Right. I’m throbbing with anticipation

[@dnajournal4321]

Have you got a bonnet?

[@jaycreveling9359]

Activities for your day is great too but uuui

[@colinh9813]

This man is a fantastic speaker. Frightening subject, but a very clear perspective.

[@baltichammer6162]

So clueless its shocking. Or this guy is a paid shill for the CCP.

[@akashsinha2880]

@@baltichammer6162 Grow up dude CCP owns everything even the USA.

[@Interdiction]

@@baltichammer6162 He was in no way pushing the CCP in any favour >

[@largervoid1708]

Frightening for who?

[@TheZSOTTER]

As a Chinese, I wish to see more people from the western world, especially young people, working and having a blast in China. It's a good way to avoid misunderstanding between the East and the West.

[@ArtSio443]

then ask your government, because getting a work permit in China for an foreigner is really hard! I' be willing to

[@TheZSOTTER]

@@JohnSmith-hs1hn 下三滥

[@TheDJKILLIN]

I have seen too many 4chan gores to even think of going there, let alone young.

[@honkai8692]

you use the word"wish" when you know it is almost impossible to be done. bruh

[@honjokun0615]

How about the Chinese government stooping to block sites like Facebook and KZbin and letting people access this video freely instead of going through VPN? Also, keep reforming the hukou system?

[@bermansong2181]

As a Chinese, I never heard that our goal by 2049 is to be the absolute number one in the world. Our goal by 2049 is to be a medium level of developed country.

[@user-dx4sk5fh8d]

Berman Song But I think China number one is underlying intent.

[@yxd00181]

number 1 as a nation is no doubt, but per capita is totally different story.

[@wallacepan3897]

我国正处于并将长期处于社会主义初级阶段。

[@oov792]

as a Vietnamese I can confirm that China has always wanted to be the number one and conquered other countries for the last 2000 years.

[@luwei6940]

Tuan Nguyen lol ye we learned about how u people might feel about china. It seems true. But don’t worry. Our wives will never allow us to invade other countries. Its our wives who truly dominates china.

[@ericbanner2841]

That bridge construction timeline comparison shook me to my core. It’s not just a bridge, it symbolizes the work ethic, and efficiencies of the US and China. If we don’t get our act together, we all know what’s gonna happen.

[@acedrumsnyc]

Right on brother. If we don't change our ways, we're doomed.

[@FamilyWinn]

Lawsuits stopping progress and construction. We can't build a bridge without 100 studies of who it impacts. China thank a lawyer, you won.

[@MrColbrot]

Lmao😂 aged well. Efficiency? They can’t even make a Covid vaccine that will allow them to open back up, can’t make semi-conductors that run anything better than a fridge, and has no backbone when we land on their doorstep. China won’t survive as they are now for another decade.

[@aprilliu5449]

because we must works at lest 8 hours everyday in China，sometimes even from works at night 9 ：00 ....itis called“996”，which means works from 9：00 in morning to 9：00 at night six days a weak...actually I really envy Westrn no burden works but have earning so much money 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@adityaj950]

Even though I am Indian, I have always admired China, firstly for being the only Asian country to rise up to the USA's level, and how collectively the country has worked hard together to be what it is today. The Chinese government is often criticized for being totalitarian, but whatever they have done has ultimately benefited the citizens of China, unlike in our country where most leaders have only had the goal of fulfilling their own agenda for their own benefit to gain power rather than working for the people, despite being a "great democracy".

[@kennyhalperin5302]

So you admire communism over democracy? Really?!

[@adityaj950]

@@kennyhalperin5302 Nope both systems have thier inherent flaws. Would prefer democracy anyday. China's communism has actually helped setting out a long term road map for development and innovation in a very streamlined way, which is quite tough for democracies, as ruling parties change all the time.

[@abtechhacks4734]

Some great thoughts brother!! ❤️❤️❤️From 🇵🇰

[@thelakeman5207]

A nation of individuals will never beat a country who works as a group.

[@sometingwong9041]

@@kennyhalperin5302 - if you don’t think your being socially engineered by us gov you really are in the dark.

[@jifa17]

Dr. Allison is a true scholar. He used facts to support his arguments. He was unbiased and focused on the problem, not ideology, as many scholars did.

[@woutkoopman]

But do you really believe he's saying something that people don't already know? Is anyone under the illusion that we'll never have another war? What about a world war? With the current alliances fairly evenly spread it seems to me this was always inevitable, and for most people I know his is no surprise. He's not really bringing up any solid facts in my opinion. He states a few opinions, gives us the growth prediction, than says countries often go to war over this, but that's not evidence. There's no document stating China is out to destroy the US or vice versa. He simply states that they might become eachothers enemies at a certain point, which everyone knows.

[@Thesebjustseb]

@@woutkoopman This is a TED talk just under 20 min long. If you actually want hard facts, you'll have to read a scholarly book. I recommend "The Tragedy of Great Power Politics" by John J. Mearsheimer on the same subject. However, even after reading it, the uncertainty still remains, and no questions are really answered. If anything, more of them pop up. But at least you get some hard facts on which to base further consideration.

[@johnryan1287]

Sure, sure. Wanna buy a bridge?

[@kino.kylo.kin1]

Dude he's talking as if everything USA does in Europe is for world prosperity and not it's own dominance

[@sharkamov]

@Jeff: . . . . Do you even _hear_ yourself???

[@themkk2008]

I am interested in China for over 20 years, lived there for close to a decade, travelled to pretty much everywhere in the country and have a Chinese wife. I live back in Europe now and I am quite often shocked how negative and condescending we from the west look at China, partly because the country is becoming powerful and we can not get our head around that there is a race or a country somewhere else which is capable of achieving a status which one day might be higher than ours. When I read the news or comments like here it seems that all how Chinese could achieve their rise is through theft, unfair practices and being corrupt. I am not saying that all is good in China, of course not, where is? But I recommend to all the people who think that all what Chinese are doing is cheating, travel to China and have a look for yourself. I know nobody who actually has been in the country who has not been impressed by the Chinese. Again, not saying that anybody is better, but one thing we in the west will have to get used to: China is claiming back the place where they have been most of the past.

[@EntertheDragonChild]

the most land China ever encompassed is arguable, but the mongol Khan conquest of China and then Kublai Khan, the line of Genghis khan, Emperor of China’s Yuan Dynasty was also mongol not Han! The west called them Tartarian rulers of China and the Easterners called them Manchu Qing Dynasty of Manchuria/ Manchuko

[@1943stone]

@@EntertheDragonChild you’re stuck in a view of history based on race, which is a very superficial understanding in terms of Chinese civilization, bear in mind that the so-called “Han” have been mixed in a lot of ethnic minorities throughout its history, what had persisted for centuries is its way of living, language, culture, every aspect of the civilization. And such views on China are popular in countries like Japan or Korea, as they are countries of single ethnic group, which has limited their vision on civilizations of multiple ones.

[@wyz9815]

@@EntertheDragonChild Many Western people have such narrow views of the world and other cultures. China is civilizational state, not a nation states which is based on race. Chinese say China is a country with 100 countries, and western people can never understand that.

[@commie5211]

@@EntertheDragonChildpior to industrialization, the barbaric always wins. because the more advanced civilization was based on agricultural not conquering. wasn't the roman empire faced the same problem?

[@AO00720]

People doubting the inevitability of war, are honestly clueless, i don't hope for a war, but that's just hope, it doesn't change anything.

[@leopard36cat]

it started 3 years ago no one has noticed that's so strange 5 million are already dead from bio war And there was me think de Nile was a river in Africa. It seems the rest of the world is in denial.

[@ilovetech8341]

The main problem is we would have to share our naval supremacy and China isn't off to a great start with the China sea.

[@abdalscnd5904]

Very eloquent n articulate speech with this outstanding ability to summarize less than 20 minutes, such a huge sophisticated difference of the two world powers! I believe it's such a wisdom that makes view scholars only to shine well above their peers

[@TheFoolintherainn]

Yes, but can he boil water or tie his shoelaces in the real world? It's all great until you go for the application in the real world.

[@abdalscnd5904]

@@TheFoolintherainn I appreciate your comment but putting in practice or changing into real action is entirely different question n outside my comment on/about, professor's eloquent ability to explain a wider issues within minutes, that yourself agreed with me! wisdom always deserves honored

[@abdalscnd5904]

@@TheFoolintherainn besides the professor's ability, I agree with you that the way US come to be the only power, is the same rule they'll undergone But, that that's not only for the US. but this is the rules n real tangible judgment fo anyone power or person who transgress n oppress others for little times! But to my wonder, its easly apparent that China is also walking both internally n externaly all the same way as the powers befor them

[@shuochou4531]

My village (in China) did changed a lot...I could only eat meat once a week when I was a child. I hope peace...love is wise, hatred is foolish.

[@jaydez2338]

嘿嘿，战忽局吗。/滑稽

[@richardyoung6696]

@@jaydez2338 也是实话啊，乡镇生活变化不小

[@mullimulli6259]

There are too many people in the world and not enough resources. Pollution is a big problem. What are the options?

[@spartanares4345]

@shuo chou As your American counter part, I support the Chinese people. In fact, I love your food, culture, and history - just not the CCP.

[@riojimatsuoka]

Bs. 600 million still live on less then 5 green bucks per day according to premier Li Keqiang. Just check the latest NPC. That man has a very poor understanding of China.

[@darrendelong]

Whenever we goes to war. The common folks suffer while these leaders sitting at the top safe and sound while they commands people to sacrifice their life.

[@seedplanter7173]

WwIi

[@huanglong08]

that's leadership. you cant ask the commander to march at enemy, just like you cant ask CEO of a bank to go on street and sell insurance to random folks

[@mindyourbusiness4440]

Trust me with nuclear power all would suffer

[@adamrouse9426]

Not if the leaders lose that war.

[@babybibendum9114]

Thucydides’s trap worked in western history, but did it work in east Asia history?

[@philli1588]

I think it's fit too,at least judging from my country's history(China),the Han people clash in huge scale with other people or nation whenver han are weak and overpowered,and then a new dynasty is build yet with the same old rules and fate with its predecessor(sometimes it's uprising or revolt tho)

[@yamyas]

History of east Asia has been revised, deleted and even forged a lot. It can be a fantasy of winners. Be aware of that.

[@richardivonen3564]

@@philli1588 Thus the ancient Chinese proverb. Better a year of tyranny, than a day of anarchy. Multiple civil wars took their toll on China over many centuries, and this may help explain the current Chinese mindset. EDIT: Ater Alexander the great overcame and absorbed the Persian Empire, internal divisions developed after his death. Internal strife brought about the demise of Greecian dominance. Internal strife weakened Pax Romana and opened the door to it's demise. Trumpism has corrupted our nation which is already highly polarized, at an incredible rate. A HOUSE DIVIDED CAN NOT STAND. Simply a word to the wise. What you heed will determine the direction you travel. Peace be with you.

[@magicsmurfy]

I love the way you present, besides the facts and deep thinking that u r able to bring to the crowd. I am learning your skill too. And I am a Chinese person at the age of 50.

[@4eignr]

I’m Chinese and I’m 15. I was born in Brooklyn but raised in a rural village in China after a year of being born bedside my mother left my Dad and he couldn’t take care of me. However within my time being there, naive and unknown of what communism is. I’ve never noticed a difference or large difference between the American people and Chinese. The only difference I saw is naturally that all American individuals are more independent and keep to themselves. While if you walk down a street in China and you make friends, they will literally give you food and invite you to their homes and stuff. You don’t get that here in America. I think the light on Chinese people should be shown a lot more.

[@rajitspdstr]

Wrong. American people are one of the most generous people out there. First hand experience, I am from India btw

[@evani4910]

thanks.chinese are friendly.

[@michaeladamson8109]

the point of this video isnt to insult Chinese people or focus on them, its about the rise of the CCP, and the destruction they could cause.... 'Chinese people' arent a problem, the regime they live under unfortunately, is.

[@cfjuggh1267]

Michael Adamson 国民党是被大陆老百姓抛弃的，别洗了，除非你祖上是大地主大财主，90%的民众认同ccp

[@michaeladamson8109]

@@cfjuggh1267 give me an actual point to contest instead of stating nonsense and i will give you a valid response.

[@isaacwang9240]

Kennedy once said, he is not so concern the kind of govt a country have , He is more concern if it works. Deng Xiao Ping also said, he doesn't care what is the color of the cat, as long as it catches mice. In short it is not about democracy or socialism, it is about leadership and determination.

[@Red4350]

good point.

[@marcoswang5034]

Its about good governance and bad governance

[@Jimmy-wh1fd]

@K4M4K4Z Are you not being watched by Facebook or Google? What is your point?

[@lhsia5932]

K4M4K4Z democracy : India dictatorship: Singapore which one do you prefer?

[@user-ps8ps7om8l]

@K4M4K4Z what you described is not even close to what it's really like in China, and I can assure you that's just too ridiculous to happen

[@liaoyiwei]

The fuse is not North Korea anymore, is abolutely Taiwan

[@Johannesai1]

That bridge nearby Cambridge University wasn't inaugurated after four years; me: "Just like in the Republic of Costa Rica 😅"

[@gerardtrigo380]

I would argue that there is no such thing as an inevitable war. People were saying that war between the US and Russia was inevitable in the 50's and early 60's, but it never happened.

[@surfbum482]

Korean conflict? Which was fought by the Chinese and backed by the Russians?

[@ariefmad64]

Vietnam? Afghanistan? Korean war? Soviet and USA is fight each other but using proxy war, ini the end USA won, and Soviet collapse...

[@pedacompaustralia3588]

The substantial difference is that Russia never had any hope of matching and then exceeding the US in economic and military size and progress, whereas it seems China will achieve that within the next 20 years unless the US takes the decision to attempt to militarily stop them.

[@nicobruin8618]

Nuclear weaponry does really change this equation yes. However the Soviet Union post WW2 was not really a "rising" power. Whilst according to all economic models, China is.

[@gerardtrigo380]

@A Artisan So we should be pushing for a world government based on an American system or let China decide our world government. Also you push the fallacy that just because it is hard to walk away doesn't mean you should not walk away. Another fallacy is that any system will stay on top forever.

[@davec8473]

No, just the war in the TED comment section

[@m.j.2377]

Exactly 😂

[@seedplanter7173]

Who's Ted?

[@harryyoung4263]

that bear

[@susanfrary7424]

Wonderful! Thank you.

[@liang4910]

If everyone agrees and Abide by the existing rules of conduct. there will be no war. It is not a question of the rise of new forces, but of the failure to abide by the rules of conduct.

[@gpalmer456]

For what it’s worth: to my brothers and sisters in China and throughout the world: peace be with you.

[@chriss7196]

Thank you.

[@nathanmeares3502]

And also with you

[@fengchang4788]

希望中美双方充满更多的祝福，而不是敌意！I hope China and the United States are more blessed than hostile.

[@urdbest3212]

May peace be with all of the tubers, America, Canada, Middle East and the rest of the world.

[@miaoxuebeijing]

George Palmer n n

[@EyFmS]

Corona virus has joined the chat

[@funmaster4632]

@@MrWest-ph5yg or the global elite are using it in all countries to reset the economy and steal some too. They borrowed themselves another ten years.

[@aps-c1766]

@@funmaster4632 what is more funny is. a lot CEO resign before this happening.

[@wafi9462]

APS-C like who?

[@aps-c1766]

​@@wafi9462 , CEO and COO of Groupon inc, Tobacco company Altria CEO, he got covid 19 bill gates, leave from Bod Microsoft and berkshire Hathaway Disney CEO, Bob Igor, cannabis MedMen. CEO Step down Aurora Cannabis, CEO step down Credit Suisse, Tidjane Thiam, CEO caught stalking. L Brands, Les Wexner. CEO, retired Outdoor Voices, Tyler Haney, step down Boeing CEO, Dennis Muilenburg Dispute there is a lot more, some of them get dispute, some of them retired, some of them just step down for fishy step down. 2019 and 2020 so far. have more CEO step down than previous years . it's seems some of them know this pandemic will comming

[@wafi9462]

APS-C wow. No smoke without fire

[@truthfinder4116]

Prof. Graham Allison has drawn a famous analogy and comparison between what the historian Thucydides observed and the modern day Sino-U.S. relations. Some scholars don't agree with him, but it does not even matter if Thucydides ever existed. What really matters is that the competition between China and the U.S. is really fierce and could turn disastrous at certain point of time.

[@Z_Victory_Z]

Z 1 second ago Never mind the fact that China is hellbent on taking over the world and subjugating the U.S. to its mandates and rendering it a de facto vassal state of Beijing. China has openly broadcast these ambitions. Their efforts are on clear display through asymmetric hybrid warfare measures. A hot war is coming. Now the USA is showing its hand as it pivots eastward from Ukraine. The current eastern European conflict was/is merely an appetizer for the main course that will be eaten in the Taiwan Strait. The USA has decided to expend money that it doesn't have and old, used, hand-me-down military tech/weapons on Russia in an effort to take a nuclear armed ally of China out of the game before the real game kicks off. With Russia bogged down in a Ukrainian quagmire (spent militarily, economically, and with increasing "war fatigue" and unrest amongst the Russian people), China will be isolated to face the brunt of a US-led attack that will include the UK, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, probably India, and, at least logistically, the Philippines. The US will trigger the Chinese into jumping into a naval effort to take Taiwan, and then it will be gloves off. Xi is fighting internally for his political life and the hawks in the CCP are pushing him, increasingly so, to have a go at Taiwan. When that happens, China will get smashed.

[@djs9931]

When will Ted, himself, come out to talk?

[@Ambigant]

Regardless of your opinion on these matters, you have to admit... This guy is super knowledgeable and it makes for an incredibly interesting talk. Thanks TED.

[@writerconsidered]

Yes, also whether he's right or wrong he at least wants to avoid a horror show for both sides. That makes him a humanitarian.

[@PTKhai]

@@prdamico I think your point 2 and 3 are what most people called "opinions".

[@PTKhai]

prdamico I think you are confused between hard core facts/truths and opinions derive from facts/truth. If you know the difference between the two, you’d find that a lot of what he says are opinions derive from facts/truth.

[@FINEDENTIST]

Whippy Wawa Not to be contrarian , but unless anyone has been in a coma over last 40 years what he says has always been self evident.When Nixon opened up China what went through our minds hmm ! They built transcontinenal railways in both US and Canada while we struggled during ww2 they completed Burma road which we predicted would take a year with heavy equipment,they did in 3 months with manual labour and little equipment.I put out a question,to all who had Chinese acquaintances in University,they shared everything food ,equipment but never knowledge, as opposed to all others, we used to support each other assisting one another, you always knew who was in same courses and if difficult is arose help was available , ask a Chinese to help and most could having taken most of courses in their country before starting here definatly guaranteed good grades and selective post grad positions , they would answer you this as a routine, no no you figure it yourself? This behavior continued into Graduate studies even though position placing competitions were over and cooperation and sharing would have been most beneficial , but no , wanna freak out one of these students, go over and start examining their work in detail, they return a couple times and repeat .Over the years this constant remains, take take - no give.

[@2_protects_the_1]

yeah but some Ted talks offer some really really stupid stuff. Less than a month ago, It speaks for it self.

[@CodingMazaa]

Short answer: Yes. Long answer: Let's wait and see

[@delequint]

It's a question of when not if

[@versatilesse3670]

Most insightful. Thank you

[@stephanieanderson1924]

This is so important right now.

[@kodiak736]

The biggest crossover since infinity war

[@lllool8404]

China's nothing compared to USA.

[@jebes909090]

@@lllool8404 it depends on the length of war. The longer it goes, the more it goes in China direction.

[@elmohead]

Nah, this will be bigger than a Marvel X DC crossover.

[@samwick6029]

Thanos and CCP both love birth control and force the world appreciate for it

[@joaosousa4946]

@@lllool8404 you are so wrong that it hurts

[@xzerox2112]

The speech gives me confidence in humanity and the coment section lost it for me.

[@aaronfigueroa51]

Yeah this comment makes me sad

[@digitaldazzle5836]

洩矢諏訪子 that’s because communism in any form is evil. I love China very much and the people that live in it but the government is purely evil. So is America’s government.

[@johnhanser2313]

Digital Dazzle 所以说需要你来做些什么？

[@xingwen3128]

Amost Every Chinese people.is or has a family member that is in CCP. So, CCP actually is people

[@S3aCa1mRa1n]

You’re easily persuaded then.

[@xuhuang6654]

“You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one. ”

[@vernonsteinkamp1088]

Everyone lives in a yellow submarine

[@codyandrex152]

Very objective video. Was not expecting this.

[@Cannabisqualityengineering]

I don't think the idea will come from these KZbin comments...

[@jmayor88]

Hahaha true that!

[@carlosroman7552]

@@jmayor88 we'll see, keep scrolling

[@zodiacfml]

They have been at war ever since. A traditional war that costs money and lives is the least likely as they know that they need to keep this from happening as both will lose.

[@R0cpeR]

You never know man

[@WindermereSun]

Need to promote the concept of global citizenship and the fact that zero sum game is not the only game in town. We organic humans will need to collaborate in dealing with the AI in the future....time to learn to acquire allies rather than enemies. We all need to help one another in order to survive on this planet.

[@nicobruin8618]

There's just one point I wish to make concerning WW1 and Thucydides's trap. It was not the tension between the dominant power Britain, and the rising power Germany which started that war. It was the tension between Germany and Russia. Sparta and Athens went to war due to Sparta's fear that Athens would become to powerful. Sparta, the power to be eclipsed, started that war. Rightfully so, because the Athenians blatantly violated treaties signed between them and other Greek cities. But Britain did not confront Germany when Germany surpassed her Industrially. Britain attempted to keep some balance in the concert of Europe, but the balance wasn't shifting in Germany's favour in 1914. In 1914 Germany was the dominant power in Europe, it had the strongest army. But its large neighbour Russia, was the fastest growing economy in Europe. German high command estimated that if the growth of the Russian economy, and subsequently also her army, would be allowed to continue undisrupted than Germany would no longer be in a position to defeat Russia in a protracted war by the year 1917. Hence they were eager to kick of a war with Russia, and subsequently did nothing to stop the conflict between Serbia and Austria-Hungary from devolving into war.

[@dhirajmeenavilli5508]

Honestly the biggest mistake the Germans made was letting Otto Von Bismarck walk.

[@mitsos306ify]

Regarding the athens-sparta war, this had as ultimate result the rise of the Roman empire!

[@Wunderpus-photogenicus]

“Let China Sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world” so states a quote often attributed to Napoleon Bonaparte. Currently, China is much more awake than any other country in the world.

[@eggominiwaffles5865]

Quite literally shakes the world

[@robertmuller3145]

U don't know anything about history.

[@jonnynumonic1026]

No body is scared of little China men.

[@cricketcavalry575]

@@jonnynumonic1026 Never underestimate opponents. Else you will be the first one to get fucked. India attacked China 50 years ago on the same idea and got punished.

[@anilgowdam112]

@@cricketcavalry575 India did not attack, stupid Nehru agreed for agreement, go and study history.

[@simplica1]

Excellent presentation and still very relevant 3 years on! China has never had any intention to get into any wars and US is the one that needs to get over their drummed up fears and addiction to wars.

[@hanselencinas3089]

China has no intention getting into any war against countries that are able to defend themselves but is bullish against weaker countries with no regard to their sovereign rights.

[@GoodNightGoodGuy]

That's a Proporganda point of view. As China ramps everything up. Threting it's out laying, sovereign nations "to take them as thorough their right!!? Who is the true dragon? Waiting.

[@Interdiction]

China has every intention of stealing resources whenever and wherever it can .You only need to take a look at how they are building man made islands SPRATLY ISLANDS ,So understand how dangerous they are .If the USA disbanded their forces The Spratly zone would be taken by China within a week of them doing so .But you already know this

[@KM-dc8ro]

China is an imperialistic brute. Wake up

[@amiridon2080]

Why cant we all be great again? Why focus on holding someone back? Leaders need to evolve. Lose the crab in a barrel mentality

[@yaz2928]

Because the US is addicted to war and sees China as the next meal.

[@flysmask]

I know right? It'll be great if every country is great, then nobody will dare invade anyone.

[@PresidentialWinner]

P.o.l.i.t.i.c.s.

[@pcstar123]

It is like the school bully not working on academics and hates the good students making good grades and his only tactics is to intimidate and fight to stop the good kids progress! The American leadership were doing this in school and continue so in international relationships! I don't see US capable of making any major reforms or future plans.

[@Diegoscomeback]

As Thanos said, (he is indeed fictional but the words are true)"this is a finite universe with finite resources", its not about a better life, is about who live better than others...Sadly.

[@joaovictorferrari7859]

Albert Einstein said: "I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones" #nonukes

[@onexcomputer]

Perhaps with teeth and fist.

[@nimbette2]

Viruses

[@LoboalphaMASTER]

Dude, the threat of nuclear anihilation is precisely the thing that has kept us from having more worldwars, all of the superpowers fear utter destruction from a nuclear war, so they avoid armed conflict and do proxy wars instead. Millions would have died in world wars if it wasn't for all of those thousands of nukes in the arsenals of all the world's superpowers.

[@onexcomputer]

@@LoboalphaMASTER Can we avoid the inevitable forever?

[@CMCSS-to3to]

Nukes are the only thing stopping war. It's called MAD. Without them we would have had WW3 in the 20th century

[@wernercaspary7159]

Is the USA 🇺🇸 willing to share the world stage with China 🇨🇳 ? 🤔 Excellent presentation. Greetings from Germany...🍺🇩🇪

[@botneo2427]

Better invest in doomsday survival bunker & stuff

[@MrBallardbuddy]

Not gonna lie, china's president is ambitious I've no problem having them sit at the table as long as they play nice

[@TheFoolintherainn]

It's not whether the US gov't is willing to share a world stage with china, it's whether any major world power would be stupid enough to align themselves with thousands of years of imperial rule and Communism. This country doesn't tolerate the reeducation camps, kidnap doctors and scientists to force them to work for the government, mandate to people how many children they can have... Look at China's vs western world investment history - UNICEF, IMF, Doctors without borders - those aren't Eastern world concepts? Communists don't go into spread education literacy jobs and investments - they go into oppress, control, suck out resources and colonize a country to call it their own. They just did it to ecuador. They've been doing it to African countries for decades. They have a long history of corporate espionage, how did China end up on the NAFTA treaty to begin with? That was supposed to be for North American countries? They have devalued other countries currencies to buy them up and control them - like they've done to Canada- their dollar is artificially low because of China, China deliberately floods markets to destroy currencies, investments, and stock markets ... They colonize areas, putting their Chinese factories in places like Northern Italy but don't create jobs for Italy, they use slave labor in undercut other EU prices - aren't forced to manufacture under the same epa standards, no matter where they are in the world! But they can get that "made in Italy" label and avoid having to pay tariffs! The USA in the UK have a history of bringing education, technology, literacy and hospitals along with their investments... China has reeducation camps. They use international and green funding to do their infrastructure projects - they never spend their own money. They can't - Communist governments don't create wealth nor innovation. Their history as a country under imperial rule - then when they switch to Communism mid 20th century.. you don't know a lot about their history because it's whitewashed. They decide what you can know! But NOW they're suddenly going to play fair? Please - don't fall for the last internet video or article you read... Use it as a springboard to go forward with the conversation -more research. How is it I never hear people fact-checking TED talks? please don't be a parrot. Take the other side of the debate and see what you get Regardless of the outcome.. what you'll get is a bit more intelligent

[@RAiNfORAiNbOW]

​@@TheFoolintherainn China's purpose is to make westeners' news more interesting so they get more inspiration and continue doing the actual work in innovation and art. We are one species they are playing the provocateur cause they couldn't do anything else. It's the least desired role but everybody else took the fun ones and someone has to play it cause if we don't we'd meet aliens one day who did and they'd beat us since they worked faster under pressure Its a leftover instinct from when there were 2 isolated tribes. One just lived to survive the other started fighting over nothing they met one day and the surviving one got fucked

[@Ghosthackable]

@@TheFoolintherainn America First, make America great again, Trump 2024.

[@kalonjeebless]

Really learnt a lot and absolutely impressed by this Lecture.

[@tktkdiamond]

yup we're not ready for what's coming total complaincenty will be are undoing

[@NThony1]

We need him to give us a 2020 update!

[@jasonsmith530]

Kung flu

[@joes282828]

Tic tac ufos

[@bernard7384]

@Mike Lay damn I see. So you can come out with 100% reliable sources? I see that you are a professor in harvard as well I assume?

[@joshjones6072]

True, tensions are still rising. Now perhaps if the CCP were no longer such a rising power perhaps the tensions would subside. Easiest answer: take all foreign manufacturing out of China. It might work, it might not. They might just try to attack and take over all the newer manufacturing countries. Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. It might just be inevitable in this case.

[@philsun3706]

@@joshjones6072 Don't need it, Covid will do it for us. And you believe Veitnam, Indoesia and Malayisa can replace China? You think China don't have domestic manufacturing? Please, foreign investment to China rised to a new high in the first 6 months this year, oh if you want to know, Xingjiang export to EU rised a new high as well.

[@NewMessage]

Time to start learning Mandarin.

[@luism5514]

Bureaucracy, corruption and too many different interests, cultures, political parties, and not a common bond is what is stopping America from completing any infrastructure or anything for that matter in any reasonable amount of time. Different cultures are ok, but we need to be united by a common thing, at the very least a common language, for language is the most fundamental element of communication and understanding that can tie all us together and unite us as one unstoppable force.

[@cheejudo]

@@luism5514 True, we do need to be united! However, that will never happen in the US because the DNC only cares about illegal immigrants not not actual Americans.

[@TurkiyeCumhurbaskani]

They cost $5.99 a bag in supermarkets

[@claudiaswitalla8142]

Should have started years ago.

[@NicolasDuqueMrDuque]

@@GeneralPatton88 哈哈哈哈

[@jackcheng7437]

He give us a excellent speech!

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Yes. War is only a matter of Time.

[@rustyudder]

We don't want that, it would mean destruction of everything we have built. On both sides of the spectrum, we want growth across the board.

[@masterdriveroftoyotazupr4164]

“China is a sleeping giant. Let her sleep, for when she wakes she will move the world.” ― Napoleon Bonaparte

[@jiaqiliu7075]

@ooOmegAaa China has awoken, China's rise is unstoppable

[@badterrorist9384]

@@jiaqiliu7075 China growth rate is slowing down and recorded slowest growth rate in 27 years

[@lighttraveller3468]

Changing the word 'move' to 'destroy' would be more correct since the China Napoleon referred to has become Communist Red China, which is NOT China. Take for example, the not so long ago ten years Cultural Revolution (1965-75) not only had 4 millions of capitalists, scholars, property owners.....etc. tortured then killed, it also wiped out several thousand years of Chinese culture from that piece of land. Red China is the opposite of China in key areas such as philosophies and values.

[@jiaqiliu7075]

Ze Atheist you have no idea what China has done in recent years . Many China’s Cities is under industry conversion. From the resources-based city to the sustainable energy city .In my hometown,government shut off many factories of dirty industry and coal power stations for reducing air pollution and CO2.China’s economy is stable and developing.Even 6% is the lowest number

[@joelruiz6137]

Tell that to Genghis Khan or the Japanese during the rape of nankin

[@andrewjordan5173]

This talk continues to age very well

[@davidcantu2665]

History does not repeat itself, but it rhymes. Incredible

[@frankblangeard8865]

The United States is like a man in his early forties. Testosterone and sperm count are declining but the ego is still big. Identity crisis! U.S. must prove masculinity and show how tough we still are. But age is relentless and younger men will rise to challenge the old man. Some men age gracefully and some (U.S.) make themselves look foolish.

[@wangyingsen458]

Chinese is the nation who build the great wall instead of invading others as long as they could like Rome Empire. China will be America's friend or enemy only rely on Americans treat China as friend or enemy.

[@huangdihuangdi6395]

@@wangyingsen458 天无二日。一山不容二虎。卧榻之侧，岂容他人鼾睡。外国人其实是有很了解中国历史的。总之，中国人真得做好充足的战斗准备。

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

@@wangyingsen458 - Yet America has been the greatest friend and ally in the history of nations, to China, like no other nation in history. And because of the CCP/CPC, almost no (or very few) Chinese people even know it, or understand how or why, or what the U.S. has done to benefit China.

[@kinddragon313]

@@huangdihuangdi6395 这根本就不是一码事！！！

[@user-ld7lr2cw6x]

SkylineToTheSeaAndMe we all know that ,we don't hate Americans.have you ever heard that"let's destroy American"? we just say"get our people richer,to be the no.1". what i can see is there's almost every Americans hate Chinese,some of them said"start a war with communist china",some said that"oh,i hate ccp ,not the Chinese people",but when they want to stop us to develop our economy ,stop us to get our country unified, we won't accept it peacefully

[@lightening1296]

America needs to learn to get along with others, not always like you are either with me or against me. There's middle ground.

[@kimobrien.]

The American workers hail the 1949 Victory over Imperialism in China. You victory over the running dogs of Imperialism is our victory too. We too will overthrow our Imperailist masters in Washington and raise the revolutionary banner of World Socialism as you throw out the capitalist roaders who want war and crush the new KMT running dogs. Peace amongst the workers and peasants of all countries. Down with war, down with the greedy capitalists and death to world Imperialism!!! Workers of the World Unite We have a World to Gain and nothing to lose except our chains!!

[@jagdpanther2224]

We can stab their back as gratitues!

[@II-tj5eg]

@@kimobrien. salute my comrade. Capitalism is the ultimate blood sucking vampire which drained people's fortune and spirit. As a CCP member I truly appreciate the US working class recognition for PRC. The momentum is accumulating in society my dear friend, the hay is being stashed up on the hill and only do we need is a single spark to ignite the whole mountain. Let's see whether Bernie will be elected in 2020 and if so, there would be a reinvigoration for Marxism and Communism! I hope the day will be coming sooner!

[@MrMuaythai84]

if u know ANYTHING about china you would know it never got along with anyone matter fact they invaded so many smaller kingdom int heir past

[@user-dv4cm1sf4v]

Kim O'Brien you are crazy man，but i like it😊

[@ericberen5698]

Very brilliant talk.

[@radarsounder]

Great speech and true insight.

[@gibsonsg6201]

The question that begs the answer is : so China grows exponentially since 1978 and now the poverty rate is 10% instead of 90% and America feels threatened? In other words, the US simply wants to keep everyone in dire economic positions and be enslaved by a system that they abolished when they fought the American civil war, between brothers from the North and the South. How many wars the US has had started since 1945 and how many China had initiated? Funny how A bridge outside of graham’s Cambridge office took 7 years to complete and 300% over budget as per the American standard. China took 43 hours to build a similar bridge with twice the capacity. No, this can’t be allowed to happen again, this is a threat to the very existence of American ways of life. Imagine all the resources and technologies that went into war efforts going instead towards betterment of humanity. All the lives that were lost, how many heartbreaks and broken dreams for no rhyme or reason simply just because a Superpower felt threatened or was jealous of others as rising stars. This is world leadership? No, this is gangsterism and thuggery!

[@gibsonsg6201]

@@evelynlo458 it’s no point to try reasoning with people bent on either badmouthing or jealous of China’s leaps and bounds above all nations both in poverty mitigation and general improvements on so many different fronts. Besides, the numbers of deaths caused by China could very well have been again false data and innuendos laid d by yet other countries and people with hidden agendas.

[@soumyasundarghosh2403]

@@gibsonsg6201 how much do you know about China's tofu construction projects? Chinese architectural and logistical projects like roads and buildings are inferior in quality. It's the reason why countries like Fiji, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Many African nations no longer allow Chinese bid in their infrastructure buildings projects.Also would like to point out that there are no ngos or charities helping the poor in China, the ccp shut it down in 2012, the reason stated was that when there is no poverty then there needs to be no charity all the while the threshold income of a Chinese citizen to be considered below the poverty line is $400. Clarity should back the claims they name, not state issued statements.

[@OU-812]

It's their military machine growth that is the concern. Feel free to leave the US anytime

[@gibsonsg6201]

@@OU-812 Seriously? The US has nearly 6,000 nuclear warheads, Russia has over 6,000 and we are worrying about the nearly 400 China has? IF my information is correct, China is also committed to an unconditional “No First Use” pledge and I believe is the only nuclear armed country to such commitments. IF your concerns were about their military industry growth, might you have meant their lack of focus on a more aggressive appropriation of fundings from their GDP? Saudi - 8.4% US. - 3.7% China - 1.7% Other nations were Russia, France, Russia, South Korea, the UK, Australia, Israel, Italy and Germany. Of the 12 nations that were identified, China placed 10th just ahead of Italy and Germany standing at 1.6% and 1.4% respectively. Do I see a little hypocrisy here? It’s ok to have the US shock and awe all over the world and others not so much even in terms of self defence and protection of their sovereignty?

[@888gan4]

straw man

[@Zarozian]

The real question is why the US would view it as a threat? Also China and its people have always been the super power throughout the majority of human history. This is a country whose people have sacrificed everything for a greater future for their children. To understand them better and what made them so strong today, you'd have to look at their past. Their government also plans in the long term and look for the long term solutions and their people are tenacious and hardworking and do their best to be successful no matter where they go. They are also very conservative, efficient, and selfless because there is no individualism, your life was not about yourself but about what you can do to create a better future for your children and what knowledge and experience you can pass on to them, to give them an advantage that you never had. Their greatest strength is their unity despite their differences with each other, cause China's history is a history of war among themselves for the longest time.

[@CalebMcFarland]

Zarozian And who also murdered many of its children after and during various uprisings such as in Tiananmen square. They had nation wide oppression after that uprising. And also what is now China was divided and much smaller for a great deal of its history. The Japanese invasion forced them to unite. hence the wall of China. Also really the Roman Empire, the British empire, the Spanish empire, Mongolian, Egypt. They ruled massive portions of the planet for quite a while. I mean China is definitely a very old culture that has done a lot, but it’s not exactly what you’re describing.

[@Zarozian]

Caleb McFarland Well to be fair, most people don’t know anything about China and its long history. But they were light years ahead of everyone else, including the Roman Empire and Egyptians. Both predating them and outlasting them. They also had the most cultural influence in the east, as seen with Japan and Korea. Also Tianamen Square happened after the Japanese invasion and during their occupation by the British, US, France, and a lot of other countries. They have also been united by Qin for 4000 years as a nation, but you have to understand that China is much like Europe, their appearance, culture, and even language are different from each other.

[@Zarozian]

Bonk Shtup I’m talking about it’s 4000 years of history before the British Invasion. It’s always pride and arrogance that brings down a nation in the end. Also comparing China to the Soviet Union is a bit of a stretch. I understand that most people for some reason, whether it was due to media influence or China Uncensored, have this very negative image of China in their heads. But believe me- I rather you go visit China yourself and you will realize that it’s not what you imagined at all. They basically want the same thing the US wants; world peace and unity.

[@Wanderor2003]

@@louisadaway1716 Just a detail : the US supported an outright *dictatorship* in Vietnam. The popular uprising against that dictator was not primarily communist at first but, ironically, the war/invasion transformed the movement into an army in which the communists were better organized and became the leaders. This made China and the USSR offer support to North Vietnam, making the confrontation worse. Still, in general, you are right that the USA fought anything that the USSR touched. - Note : the USSR was a dictatorship, put in place by Lenin and Stalin with a communist discourse (in which they banned and chased ALL other socialists and communists by the way), but it does not at all represent what the people wanted when speaking of socialism or communism. Tons of communists and socialists rebelled, and died. The notion or propaganda of Soviets was supposed to be a great democracy ironically (each collective was to elect a representative in a huge parliament). Lenin and Stalin actually LOST the elections! Objectively, we cannot conclude that socialism, which by definition is supposed to be democratic, existed in the USSR. We can say it was communist in the sense of State property, but was mostly a military and totalitarian dictatorship. I understand that, for an American, capitalism and democracy cannot be separated, but that is not a common world view outside the USA. That last bit may *seem* ideological, but I care about History, and what the people wanted and said when the Russian aristocracy fell. Also called intellectual honesty. The culture in the USA has a very dishonest conception of history and of anything left-wing. It is an obvious/visible bias.

[@iron60bitch62]

Zarozian China is a dictatorship do you understand that the people of China have virtually nothing to do with what Chinese government

[@chegadesuade]

Did everyone else get flipped off by the thumbnail too? Best thumbnail preview ever

[@jcZo23]

Flipped off?

[@chegadesuade]

@@jcZo23 Hover your mouse over the thumbnail, the guy flips us off

[@baristanyildiz]

Impressive & inspiring speech, thank you 🙏

[@ClassNav]

Having watched this. I believe it is necessary to look into the relationship between Western banking and corporate interests with China. China has a right to a place at the table but the West has suffered because of deindustrialisation. The problem I understand to be is that of the greed of these banks and corporations that have effectively asset stripped many Western nations in favour of a fast buck to be made in China. What I believe needs to be addressed is the disproportionate and unaccountable influence of financial institutions and corporations right across the globe. If this will not be addressed then a future war is inevitable.

[@pr0newbie]

I agree. And the rest of us 99.9% should stand together and not let the nonsense both sides' media spew separate us.

[@robpet4424]

You nailed it !

[@patbrennan6572]

You are so right, A busy nation is a happy nation and work give us a sense of well being. Let's become employed again.

[@lovegarbage]

You can't pay $1 to source a training shoe from China and sell it at home for $100 without bad long-term consequences.

[@fanofrpgalore1546]

“Xi Jinping is the smartest and most capable leaders of our age” This research is funded by the CCP

[@DeeJaPhil]

Very well said Graham, I thoroughly enjoyed and understood your lecture, a great insight into rising tensions between the West and China.

[@snowissj]

Curious to hear what he sees now, summer 2020.

[@Darkhartx1]

It's not a war against China, it's a war against the party. And honestly it's completely necessary. Capitalists have loved the ability they could outsource the manufacturing of all of their products for slave wages in China for a bit too long.

[@spenzonius5212]

Here is a thought. How about no war? Seriously, nobody wants thousands of young men to dead for something that can be avoided.

[@dankstuff5344]

@Jon Osterman You are wrong on so many levels.

[@webdev8284]

KZbin recommended this to us. Hmmmmmmm

[@Also_sprach_Zarathustra.]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPCZ5efl9V3nNE on @UCqnbDFdCpuN8CMEg0VuEBqA Channel, Synopsis : Russia’s meddling in the United States’ elections is not a hoax. It’s the culmination of Moscow’s decades-long campaign to tear the West apart. “Operation InfeKtion” reveals the ways in which one of the Soviets’ central tactics - the promulgation of lies about America - continues today, from Pizzagate to George Soros conspiracies. Meet the KGB spies who conceived this virus and the American truth squads who tried - and are still trying - to fight it. Countries from Pakistan to Brazil are now debating reality, and in Vladimir Putin’s greatest triumph, Americans are using Russia’s playbook against one another without the faintest clue. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoPCZ5efl9V3nNE

[@gghdkkliam3390]

So that means u browse this kinda things a lot

[@WR-mg3qf]

Who let you get through the firewall. Back you go! Sho sho

[@sybelyan2535]

I get recommended too. Guess the hashtag is international politics...besides these people commented hereunder really exposed their ignorant and racist nature. Yes Don’t look around. U r just right above.

[@cheezenip2737]

Well.. Time to enlist!!

[@lucianliu6920]

Ok so the speaker is the one who created the term "Thucydide's Trap". It has been a buzz word here in China since the Trade War. BTW I was there at Sanyuan Bridge to witness the beginning of its 43-hour renewal. It was a strange feeling to farewell the old one as we knew for decades and waiting for the new reincarnation to born.

[@jameswilliam5247]

Great lecture

[@michellelim1835]

Best ted talk, i love how engaging he is. I do wish we can all come together not fists apart, but hand in hand. Our fight is not against each other. Our fight is for survival, for life, for humanity.

[@kristianweeks9204]

Look up a documentary called “one child nation” on Amazon. It will show the real reason China has grown to power so fast.

[@a_darqstar154]

Mr Ace my 10th grade US history teacher talked about his in 1998. 20 years ago he was saying this same exact thing. If you see this Mr Ace your a prophet!!

[@Munchausenification]

Napoleon Bonaparte also said China would rise to superpower status. Look it up

[@nonyabizness.original]

everyone was talking about this for the last 35 years. not to dis your teacher or anything- glad to hear you had a good one!

[@kab00mKap0w]

Is he a prophet by reporting what China said they would do?

[@chaosawaits]

He may have been a prophet but he didn't get you to work on your grammar

[@otherpatrickgill]

if you look at history, countries in western europe constituted less than 10% of global wealth, while the east constituted over 80%. China in the modern sense did not exist then, but the modern country is populated by people who see a linear progression between the ancient empires and the modern communist state. From the perspective of a country under 500 years old, China can be seen as rising from next to nothing to become a world power nearly overnight: from a Chinese perspective, they are only regaining a little of their dignity.

[@MrColbrot]

Problem is they chose a dictator, and just like every other dictatorship, they will fail.

[@KiranKumarBokkesam]

Where is the philosopher Santayana from?

[@brianmason9803]

Brilliantly clear and logical, informed by the facts of history and well related to our current situation. He does not go into the 'third nation' that could trigger the wars in our version of such Thucydides' traps'. However, Japan seems to be a prime candidate, together with the South China Sea development.

[@warrenpuckett4203]

As Trump was fading The CCP started complete take over of Hong Kong. But when will it take it's long wanted possession the pearl of great price? One that it has been after for over 70 years? The Island of Formosa. Taiwan is the Chinese name. What is the price going to be?

[@12sex2b]

This is a brilliant idea of Ted, to make sure people understand and read up on their history, for all people, for all time

[@sharkamov]

- I sincerely hope you're aware of the Australian journalist and film maker John Pilger's critically important axiom: *‘’Hidden history is **_always_** the key to the truth.’’* (As this 'lecture' exemplifies!) . . .

[@tvgerbil1984]

America does have a tendency to get itself tangled up in some small but significant wars every few years or so. When it get distracted, its pressure on China usually lessens as a result and lowers the chance of a direct conflict with China.

[@robertschlesinger1342]

Excellent talk. Very thought-provoking and worthwhile. China has been a continuous power for thousands of years. I don't think it's a matter of when China will be the dominant world power, rather I think they already are and it's a matter of when America will see this obvious fact.

[@marktrinidad7650]

Dont worry America is on its way to banning and sanctioning Chinese companies and prevent it from taking market share on our American companies.

[@robertschlesinger1342]

@@marktrinidad7650 America is so dependant on China for most everything, a trade war would quickly destroy America and China would easily sell their goods elsewhere along the "belt and road." China already is a superpower and probably the dominant superpower already. By the way, I'm not worried about China; I'm worried about America doing something foolish.

[@Petagamer1467]

This war if happened, it means dooms day for the entire humans.

[@Constantine_Aurelian]

Yeah or it could put China in it's place

[@ccnt89]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/baWtYp2tntWanbs

[@ccnt89]

KingOfGorillas oh and China has banks in the top 5 now too and they have an economy of 26 trillion with no debt and America has 18 trillion of which 90% of it is debt to China 🇨🇳 Im not chinese but calm down and sit down now you not messing around with Iraq

[@teddyhailey3035]

Do you think they care it’s that old adage if I can’t stay in power NO one can I’ll destroy the surface of the earth if I have too..on a small version I’ve heard it be for if I can’t have her or him and what ever comes to that person mind Acid facial or a run him over with the car trick ,shoot to kill you seen it all in our schools or heard about it ect . You see it in the news just in small versions people killing over a chicken sandwich it’s just that now theses people have whole countries to do their biddings...and some very deadly,mean toys to play with...

[@lorddark9919]

I refuse to be a puppet of a communist country. If you can’t believe in freedom for the individual than your a enemy of mine. Period. If you don’t want a war. Then leave me and my freedoms alone. But you won’t. You want it your way. Your rules. Your ideals. Thous blood shed will have to be split.

[@RF-xj1ej]

"A third party's action forces one or the other to react and drags the two somewhere they don't wanna go. " Look at India now...

[@Ottovonostbahnhof]

You couldn’t be more wrong. The geographical difficulty limited the leverage of the SINO-India conflict in either’s geo-political strategy. The space and time available for conflict are so narrow. Taiwan is the battle field of empires. US and China will go full on for it.

[@Ottovonostbahnhof]

Darius Chong HK? the protesters there are expendable utility for Neocon

[@RF-xj1ej]

Tony Montana agreed.

[@vmundi]

As a indian the publics opinion is that we want to live peacefully without getting involved in wars.. however this doesn't mean we give up in face of external pressures.. India has always believed in not having meditated discussions for any conflict so the point of India dragging anyone is a far fetched idea.. The problem is that China doesn't have problem with India alone.. which makes the whole world go against china..

[@andrew1717xx]

Don't forget russia, tiawian or an aggressor-- north korea.

[@fjm1235]

Allison is insightful.

[@fallennate]

This confirms my belief that we'll never escape this planet till we can all work together as one.

[@ProductofNZ]

Why do we need to 'escape' to anywhere? I like it here. Better than that dump, Mars.

[@dammyjodger4950]

@@ProductofNZ exactly. We look after the planet It looks after us

[@generalripper1964]

Truth be told, the US Chamber Of Commerce would be fine with a Chinese form of government and economy. The majority of Americans would probably be ok with it as long as Netflix continued to stream, Call Of Duty XX was distributed, and iPhones keep being made; they could care less.

[@chfgbp6098]

That sadly is quite true...

[@briangbur8743]

American Exceptionalism

[@Donnah1979]

Maybe the difference isn't all that big, when all comes to all...

[@mirthedestroyer8657]

A large number of us are pissing our pants

[@tiggergolah]

I suppose its a good thing that it only took one third of the population of the former British colonies to support the cause of liberty and independence from Britain, or we wouldn't be having this conversation. The introduction of a Chinese form of government in the U.S. would lead to civil war or a revolution. This is why the 2A exists, to prevent and/or overthrow any such attempt at tyranny.

[@claudiaswitalla8142]

12:45 ok just going to put it out there that none of these but one include Chinese history and the one that does, they were literally being invaded by a foreign power--even if they didn't retaliate a war would still happen. You can't use European/Western history to determine the future of China. It's an entirely different system.

[@claudiaswitalla8142]

and the only examples he gives are ww1 and ww2, western battles!

[@Musabre]

@@claudiaswitalla8142 If you think China had no part in ww1 and 2 you are hopelessly ignorant on the subject. I'd take 2 minutes to google "china in ww2" in particular. You will want to alter your statement rather drastically afterwards!

[@claudiaswitalla8142]

@@Musabre I'm not saying they didn't! You may have noticed that the speaker in this and white people in particular seem to dis the Asian battlefield of world war two. And China only had a part in it because our friendly neighbours Japan who just popped by last Tang Dynasty (and briefly before) to learn everything from us then use it all against us.

[@claudiaswitalla8142]

Just one's opinion :) None of us really know what will become of any of the world's superpowers. We can only try to hypothesize the likeliest outcome.

[@ogasi1798]

erik do you know anything about the world wars? go read a book, watch the world at war, do something smart please.

[@Grandcapi]

His book, Destined for War, is a must. Great reading and a lot to learn.

[@saks2760]

Im very excited by his speaking. A really good teacher he is. Even makes me interested in History.

[@tclem14]

It’s sad the United States is already in steep decline and it’s political situation is a clear example.

[@Jancan20]

It is declining because it is too busy playing world police and pursuing socialist agendas within the country .

[@WindermereSun]

Need to promote the concept of global citizenship and the fact that zero sum game is not the only game in town. We organic humans will need to collaborate in dealing with the AI in the future....time to learn to acquire allies rather than enemies. We all need to help one another in order to survive on this planet. In nature, all things come in cycle....it is simply law of nature.

[@meganh9460]

Its not exactly the United States in steep decline, but the west. Mainly because the United States no longer wants to lead the west. With Merkel now leaving, that leaves a very unpopular Macron. People do argue that if the west is stronger, than the United States becomes stronger by association but i think the costs out weight the benefits on that one.

[@juanm.5381]

@@Jancan20 the world police part is inevitable. The united states is a global empire and everybody benwfita from its Pax Americana.

[@kimobrien.]

@@meganh9460 Macron President of the Rich and 70% of France agrees. Go Yellow Vests.

[@jimkuan8493]

I want people understand that China always have the farmer mentality. China does not hunt even since the ancient time. They built walls to fend off the hunters from the vast North and Central Asia steppe. They closed their doors to the rest of the world in 1500s when their gigantic ships could travel all the way to East Africa. China is never interested in colonization which is actually the reason for any wars to break out. So the real story is not about war between US and China. China does not want any war. It is in their nature and their mind set. They don't care about world domination. They just want to be prosperous from hard work, in another word, farmer mentality. But the West and US are hunters. They thrive in wars and make wealth out of the wars. They can not comprehend a gigantic China is not interested in doing the same when China has the means to do so. It is not fathomable. So they invent all the talking points to claim that China will be invader. But talking points are just talking points. You must understand China deep down in their mind set to really know the truth.

[@TheMurale786]

Says so a Chinese guy after occupying Taiwan,Macau,xinjiang,Pakistan and Africa

[@jimkuan8493]

@@TheMurale786Ah, Taiwan's name is actually Republic of China. It is returned back to China after Japan lost the Pacific War. Maccau is actually on lease from China, just like HK, for 99 years. Once the lease is up, the land is returned to China. Pakistan … what do you mean? I don't think China occupy Pakistan. Africa? What do you mean China occupying Africa? China is DOING business in Africa. Are you telling me that each time you buy something from a shop, the shop owner OWNS you? Have some logic my dear Indian friend. :)

[@duarraltd9118]

Excellent! Yes indeed people don't actually understand the Chinese and Asian mindset in general.

[@huuduyvu9714]

Western has European colonialism and American imperialism, but in the East, China owns Chinese expansionism. Most of Chineses never accept it, just like how Americans or Europeans react about theirs. You built the wall against Northern tribes, but you treated your other smaller farming neighbors like - or follow my way, accept my social, political structures, giving land to me when I ask and I will let you there, or not, then I will annex you. Vietnam is the one who understands it very clear. Most of our history is against your invasions to keep our national identity, our language, our culture from your "Sinicizing" policy: burning native books, destroy native buildings which have high architectural and historical values but keep all things Chinese have built on our soil. These events are recorded in our official history written by our feudal dynasties, and can be checked by Chinese sources, so don't say "these are fake, or heavily influenced by nationalist propagandas". No, that's actually things happened in the past. Ngo against Nan Han, Early Le and Ly against Song, Tran against Yuan, Later Le against Ming, Tay Son against Qing. Even in 1979, you backed and supported the Khmer Rouge to against us, they murdered thousands of our people; and when we stopped it by overthrowing them, you attacked us on our borderline, invaded and occupied 6 Vietnamese provinces, murdered our people like the way the genocidal Khmer did to us but just in a smaller scale. Then you called us "small hegemony", maligned us "want to establish a new Indochina States" when we clearly don't, and continued attacking us until 10 years later. But the nicest thing is, while the international community was watching the judgement for Khmer Rouge's top leaders, your government denied any relations between you and them!

[@fisherfriendman]

@@huuduyvu9714 History is full of examples of invaders and such. It sets the tone for relations with neighbours, but i think you harp too much in the past, knowing that China is not another dynasty, and neither is Vietnam. Vietnam has actually been colonised by the French who introduced profound changes to Vietnam including cuisine and written language. The victimization attitude that many Vietnamese adopt when in forums is astounding to me, because you should have more belief in your ability to navigate the world as an equal, not harp about past events, when your country is an independent member of the world fraternity, recognised by your neighbours, and your ex colonial master, France. Be brave and look forward. China is already doing that, and you risk staying in the past, harping about the past.

[@perhapsme6005]

China, US and Taiwan..... Thucydides's Trap 1) Thucydides's Trap usually applies to small entities that have been vying for Thucydides's Trap might have been applicable to small national states in regions where they are full of them. Thucydides's Trap is also apt in industries where there is no

[@campbelltown3065]

Classic Chinese answer: “Too soon to tell”

[@longjiang2005]

TRUMP 2024

[@yinx19]

If we want to succeed in moving to Mars, we can only achieve this as Earthians. Time to fight Martians, not each other.

[@yinx19]

@MrKalashnik0va is my government authoritarian? lol, did you just assign me a government based off of my name? This is what free speech enables sadly - false assumptions. So I don't know what to tell you, I want to support 100% free speech as well, but there are certain things that should be off limits, so I would support like 80% free speech.

[@yinx19]

@MrKalashnik0va I am Canadian. Poor Mr. Trudeau is very misunderstood.

[@yinx19]

@MrKalashnik0va Sure. Well, see how fast you jumped to conclusions about me being under an authoritative government? ...just because my name sounds Chinese? and ended up being wrong? ...think twice, think thrice.

[@yinx19]

@MrKalashnik0va Your effort is applauded - super good use of your time. I understand multiple languages, thanks for noticing.

[@Lindenlc10]

@OVOD.net Or, just stop fighting everyone and help someone. ; )

[@ordinarypercept]

"16 cases in which a rising power threatened to displace a ruling power. 12 of these ended in war, and the tragedy of this is that in very few of these did either of the protagonists want a war. Few of these wars were initiated by either the rising power or the ruling power. So how does this work? What happens is a third party's provocation forces one or the other to react and that sets in motion a spiral which drags the two somewhere where they don't wanna go. If that seems crazy, it is, but it's life." ... looks around in 2020 ... yikes, does not seem crazy

[@trevorwilloughby1231]

Do you know which 16 powers he was referring to?

[@cuac5869]

@@trevorwilloughby1231 he literally made a chart in power point with the flags of the counties . Yo can just go back and look in the video. It's even color coded between war and peace. Lol

[@prarthanapal7004]

Graham Alison is a very good speaker

[@jimmyliu4614]

I believe the majority of citizens in both country appreciate peace. No war.

[@SangAcquiescentFroid]

1:36 - the no-look page flip and stare got the point across

[@Bluuplanet]

War is not inevitable. We must keep trading. This doesn't mean capitulating to their terms. Healthy trade has negotiated terms. "If goods don't cross borders, armies will." -- Fredric Bastiat

[@stevenmendoza5621]

I read somewhere that all trade wars have lead to a war.

[@Bluuplanet]

@@stevenmendoza5621 No. They lead to higher prices. Always. But the answer is not to accept whatever terms the other country offers...that leads to higher prices for one side. When you go to buy a car, if you accept the sticker price without negotiating, you're not getting the best price.If you simply ask the salesman for his best price, you're not getting the best price. You have to walk away and wait till the salesman calls you up with a better deal. You have to have a "trade war."..your money for the dealer's car.

[@bangbang7519]

Bluuplanet so u.s has not always fucked only their own citizens but there too.

[@mikemorris1760]

Seeing as how we are a war based economy you tell us if war is inevitable Captain Obvious.

[@king-radioactivelighting8803]

Happening right now!

[@Dovid2000]

China has my utmost respect. While their growth in the past 40 years is unprecedented, let's remember that the United States over the past 50 years has been wasting its resources on foreign wars when it could have been helping to rebuild its cities and infrastructure.

[@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv]

But the hegemony of dollar is backed by its military.

[@AndrewNovitsky]

2:15 if you look at the right shadow the lecturer cast you will see a shadow of a giant spider with human head giving the lecture.

[@samarn]

Haha i had a feeling like this

[@GenghisD0ng]

Interesting

[@overseer3072]

7:00

[@abhishekanand354]

Illuminati 🤔😱😨👾👻

[@narayanalou9282]

spider doctor, the assistant of spiderman

[@Hartleymolly]

2 years ago….wow how scary it is.

[@murphymurph8282]

When you see the word 'China', if you haven't been to China before, please check out what's the first image coming up in your mind, and ask yourself where did I get that from