Is Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom just Breath of the Wild AGAIN? | Nontendo Podcast #40

[@Jibily1]

I like to imagine they have cardboard printouts of each other placed off screen so they can stare at each other despite not being together.

[@wille5080]

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Wood had a “waifu” body pillow with Bob’s face on it. 😂

[@skytwin8047]

They already said they both have a screen and camera on the side so they r actually looking at eachother while they talk in real time

[@VSMOKE1]

Come on what is this 1999 or something you use a good 4k monitor 🤣

[@liamc3433]

I'm sure that's where there screen is

[@Combat6271]

No cap when i load this video i said that exactly that xD 😂😂😂

[@ukaia]

This is hands down the best remote set up I’ve ever seen. Thank you both for putting in the effort to make it so immersive

[@TomBresson]

Love the way these remote episodes are shot!

[@Chowdah99]

Woods hair blowing in the wind was very majestic as he made his points

[@Saylor28]

The way Majora's Mask differentiates from Ocarina is the transformation masks. It completely changed the gameplay with being a Goron and a Zora. It was mind blowing, especially at the time of release.

[@Ganonslayer13]

Not to mention it’s set in a whole new setting. It’s crazy to me that it took them 1 year to make MM, which is my favorite game ever, and it took them 6 years to make TotK and it’s SET IN THE SAME MAP!!

[@Blackbird9070]

Wood: “Let me google if Link is right or left handed in Breath of The Wild” BOTW Box right behind him: “Am I a joke to you?” 😂

[@tracq8494]

came here to comment the same thing. goofy dudes

[@nickprovence]

Same!

[@tjmeyer6656]

Idk about the rest of y’all, but when I hear that jingle I can’t help but feel giddy and happy. It’s such a nice tune

[@SpikeSlania]

The direct sequel that I feel Wood is forgetting is a Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds

[@MajoraSnow]

also Phantom Hourglass

[@AnxiousDavid]

it wasn't a direct sequel, though it was a good game imo. It takes place after awakening and the 2 oracle games and it's a different Link set many years in the future.

[@AnxiousDavid]

@@MajoraSnow phantom hourglass was a story sequel but was the 4th game made after ww and on a different platform (not just generation wise but also handheld vs home console)

[@twistedimagev2]

different systems, not really a sequel in the way Wood is referring.

[@markl1109]

​@AnxiousDavid in Japan Link between worlds is called Trifoce of the God's 2... its definitely a sequel

[@Shadow650Nintendero]

Let's support Wood and let him couch stream Tears of the Kingdom without the need to look at Twitch's chat. So he can play the game comfortably while we can watch him.

[@joekelly9332]

Actually though, that should be a thing when it comes to the biggest Nintendo releases that Wood cares about

[@asajc6210]

when you guys film separately… wtf are you looking at when u look over at each other

[@perrub]

I'm sure a PC monitor with the video chat so they can see each other. They just set it up to the side so it's more emersive

[@GoldChocobo77]

@Pedro Soares exactly. They had said exactly that the 1st time they did it remote. But it was maybe explained only in the bonus

[@jethrojacinto2798]

Seriously 😂

[@MadOwlMurphy]

Love your Podcast so much! I personally appreciate you integrating the ads into the Podcast instead of giving the feeling that you are just reading down an ad! Also all the Candy and Stuff looks so good

[@shortschanal2180]

Between the leaked art book and the side by side comparisons it seems the new game could be very surprisingly different from the first

[@GoldChocobo77]

Yeah Im guessing they recorded before the leak. Before the leaks show the game will be very different from botw

[@nxtlvlzeph]

tbh it will probably be very similar visually, with botw. same artstyle, same map with some differences and new locations, but that’s it. botw was basically a sandbox with tons of unexplored possibilities, and I think totk will expand upon the base that botw established. ie an actual story, old school-ish dungeons hopefully, a bunch of new mechanics, an improved weapon durability system, more content, better bosses etc etc. I imagine totk will be for botw what link between worlds was for a link to the past, but on a bigger scale

[@charliefen]

Thanks for reminding me about A Link to the Past and Between Worlds! That was the weirdest sequel ever, many years apart.

[@jacobkart8210]

Love your guys content. Honestly wish you had some of your adds outside sponsored videos. I’ve been caught looking for that one surf shark dog episode. Dunno if it’s even a good idea to do something like that…… but I have opened up vids before to skip to the add to show someone else……

[@GoldenLeafsMovies]

They've clearly stated Tears is a direct sequel to Breath, in fact before they revealed the name they said it was a sequel. I distinctly remember when they won Game Of The Year they announced the dlc stuff and said they'd like to keep working on the game. I imagine much like God of War Ragnarok, they kept playing around adding more stuff and eventually they just turned it into a full sequel. So yes I think it's inevitable that it looks like Breath, unless they do a whole overhaul which at that point it'd be a new game altogether, not a sequel. Also I think technically the first Zelda sequel was the second game since I think it plays out directly after the events of the first one. There's also Phantom Hourglass which is directly after Wind Waker and Spirit Tracks which is implied to be years/decades after Phantom Hourglass.

[@Tarennys]

Zelda II is 6 years after Zelda I. Phantom Hourglass is a direct sequel to Wind Waker and Spirit Tracks is at least 80 years into the future from Phantom Hourglass

[@feefore1605]

Nintendo also straight up said it started as a big DLC for BotW but it got so big that they decided to make it into a full sequel instead

[@jessbeez]

​@Feefore that's exactly what I heard. Idk why there's a whole podcast on this, no disrespect.

[@isengrom6883]

I think what needs to be stressed is, the devs behind BotW did go on record saying that they had so many good ideas for dlc for botw that they realized it would better to just make a new game and put all of the ideas in it. So in that sense, yea TotK is dlc for BotW but with more added flavor on top of it

[@The_Ganondork]

Let’s take the 3DS/new3DS approach to full remakes versus 1:1 remakes/remasters. So it’s now newResident Evil 4

[@nomadicgamer9466]

I could sit and listen to you two talk about Zelda all day. Great podcast!

[@cthululuu]

People are entitled to their opinions, but the ads have not bothered me. You’re creating content for us to watch for free, and there’s nothing wrong with you doing an ad read for a company who is paying you to just talk about them for a bit, especially one you actually enjoy. I applaud you for trying to make it better for those few who gave bad reviews because of something so stupid, but it’s not an issue with you guys. You shouldn’t feel bad for other peoples short attention spans

[@beleloy808]

this aged quickly

[@neonswift]

Yeah. I get what they were saying though, but all it would have taken is them watching a breakdown of that particular trailer (and listening to anyone who had read the patents) to know this was not just DLC. There were new enemies, new mechanics, new weapons, very clearly new locations, all shown, but on the surface without much analysis (or maybe attention) its certainly possible you could perceive it as just DLC but again that feels like a lack of awareness. Like Wulf claiming there's only one island completely ignores just how many islands and other objects were shown in the sky, we just didn't see them up close. This mindset they had aged badly before they even said it because the evidence was there already.. I missed this podcast at the time, but looking back its interesting to hear how they perceived that trailer. And frankly, for Nintendo they spent 7 years on this (the same time between Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time) so it would have been bizarre for them to have done very little design and development during that time. The DLC claim just never added up. Even without the trailers, the patents clearly outlined fundamental ways that would have had to make significant changes/additions to the world. e.g. the Ascend ability (as we know it to be called) just wouldn't work in Breath of the Wild because there isn't enough ceilings to even ascend through.

[@ilitsa]

14:03 There's been a few sequels in Zelda's mainline games: Legend of Zelda(original) -> Adventure of Link A Link to the Past -> Link Between Worlds Ocarina of Time -> Majora's Mask Wind Waker -> Phantom Hourglass -> Spirit Tracks Breath of the Wild -> Tears of the Kingdom

[@BeatEmUps]

Each of those examples are wildly different games though, that's what we were trying to get at with this being the first DIRECT sequel, revisiting the same game again with new stuff. Majoras mask is the closest example out of all the ''sequels'' but again, that one was a whole new place/characters/game/mechanics.

[@Applescentedcandle]

The amount of work that must have gone into getting yourselves and multiple cameras and monitors set so that you could make it look like you guys are in the same room is NUTS. And then lining up the lol table and switch. Sheesh. Very well done.

[@fakename4232]

Hearing wood talk about the ads at the end makes me want to say this. I listen to y'all on Spotify and I have a bigger problem with the regular ads sprinkled throughout on the Spotify episodes, mainly the audio mixing. It's just very jaring to be relaxed and listening to y'all then out of no where comes "YOU CAN MAKE MONEY PLAY CHUMBA CASINO!!!!" I don't know if you guys can mess with the audio levels on those ads but I would greatly appreciate it. And please, keep up the good work. You guys have the best video game podcast around.

[@MiamiDolphinsfan4]

I usually skip ads but I watch the ads both of you do because they are fun and creative. Keep up the great work!

[@NoOne-yp1qe]

I thought I was the only one!

[@XFL6XYT]

55:00 wrong game you're thinking of links awakening, Majora's Mask actually happened its part of the child timeline and leads into twilight princess

[@labman472011]

I for one love all the ads that Bob does. That man has such a talent to sell stuff lol

[@mpratt69]

It's a remaster. They didn't remake any part of the game they remastered the assets/textures. If they didn't remake any of the functionality, story, etc. it's a remaster.

[@ob1slam]

Yeah can't lie, TotK just looks like dlc. Considering how long they've been working on this, I was fully expecting it to look much more different and the graphics to be at least, a little better. To say I was disappointed with what they've shown, is an understatement.

[@XFL6XYT]

32:00 I bought totk for $46 because I used my gold coins to bring the voucher price down around $10

[@manojlds]

Duh, it doesn't work that way

[@slowbrodragon6951]

guys, I love your sponsor segments, you guys always make it fun! Don't let those mean comments discourage you! You guys rock!

[@lucyann0503]

Bob saying "thank you" over and over at the end while Wood is trying to end the podcast is hilarious🤣

[@Pisceanripple]

It tripped me out when the dog phased out of existence at the start lmao

[@kengelina]

I give y’all 5 stars and frankly wouldn’t be here every week if I didn’t think you gave us a 5 star podcast. I like that you get excited by your products and do bits with them; I do however agree that 5 minutes for an ad is too long. A quick bit of 1-2 mins would be ideal; it’s still possible to share your enthusiasm for a product in that time frame - you guys are creative and can do it.

[@tom32090]

Link between worlds was the last sequel not majora

[@no2pencilman]

Every time I hear the big-band theme, I can’t help but hope that for one show (maybe show 500, or 1000) they go big, full sound stage with live band, guests, like a nontendo version of late night

[@H.N.I.C_Hennessy]

Ngl I gotta agree with Wood, Link being left handed was unique and the fact that they flipped it is understandable but not making it optional to change his stance is dumb

[@megamanvgc]

I can confirm that the Australia and NZ eshops still had vouchers this entire time. Vouchers are around $147NZD which actually works out cheaper than US prices.

[@waterking19]

What is Wood’s hair regiment? It looks so voluminous and silky.

[@DanielPangemanan]

I’m catching up to these wholesome podcast from episode 1, and I’m loving every single one of them 🙌

[@Vee_the_andre_ventura_hater]

Bob’s and Wood’s switches aren’t lined up and it’s messing with my OCD!

[@Lexi-M]

Even though the two games do use the same landscape, I really believe it could still be great as long as they add in new places, NPC’s, travel points & most importantly… more story, dungeons & ACTUAL Zelda side quests. (rather than the fetch quests from the last game). If they put enough content when it comes to story/ dungeons / quests, we are in for a treat.

[@ElOsoMarino]

Metroid remaster is a good example of the middle point between a remaster and a remake, i feel like it looks so much better that it counts as a remake, like Gears of war Ultimate edition

[@shivastorm8680]

I don’t mind the ads, you guys are having fun and you gotta make money. Keep up the good work

[@himhimhimhimhimhimhimhimhimhim]

I remember something about the Zelda devs saying that they were trying to make a bunch of DLC for BOTW and then just decided to turn it into a standalone title.

[@Umbrella2]

I hope they change the Zelda style again after TOTK like they did with WW and TP.

[@zekeguffey2159]

I'm playing catch up on Nontendo 😅 So happy to see my favorite KZbinrs again!!!!

[@Lexi-M]

Wood. DONT ruin this game for yourself by starting it on stream. If anything… sit on your couch & Record your reactions to the beginning or something. Then stream it later on. Zelda is too important to you.

[@keiz_]

I did look through the leaks of the Art books, and it looks like they have added a lot for this new game, and I don't think it's going to be the exact same.

[@piotrsura]

Thank you! I actually appreciate the more fun/natural ad reads (thank you!), please don't let people's negativity cramp your style Thanks! too much. Thank you!

[@kbknowno5679]

Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild are the same world !

[@ItZxNoTxMe]

The box behind you literally shows link with the sword in his right hand lol.

[@cosmocorpseking]

I like the ad reads! Love how creative they are. I also just subscribed to trade my first bag of coffee will be here this weekend, thank you! :D

[@Gramps935]

This is exactly how I feel! I never finished BotW and I have seen nothing in the trailers that makes me want to buy this new game. I could just go play more BotW.

[@SilentGamer6742]

How do you feel now!!

[@christophercaiazzo4217]

Don’t mind the same place since it’s a new story tied into the old one but they do need to bring in dungeons to change it up.

[@maxisenberg9093]

The mario plumbing site also had secret chimes when you click on different things (ime the logo makes the GC startup noise)

[@wilfisi588]

y’all set up is dope !

[@Zorgot.]

honestly, I like how it looks like Breath of the Wild, with the same map and everything, it'd be cool to re-explore all of the places again and see something new or different about them

[@Umbrella2]

Hmm I dunno as someone who has spent over 400 hours exploring BOTW I want something new now.

[@Zorgot.]

@@Umbrella2 there is new stuff everywhere on the surface and in the sky

[@BrittannieDuncan95]

I dont mind the ad reads i think they are really fun and creative how yall do them

[@jaKobus914]

Ideally the “Uppies” is a lot of pieces from the ground and cause holes in the ground that become caves.

[@sonictonic_]

Loved this episode. Very cozy feeling. I think Wood’s Uggs helped with that. 😁

[@jessicalee4737]

if you read the description in the switch store for tears of the kingdom one of the lines is.."the adventure is yours to create in a world fueled by your imagination." thats a pretty strong hint at heavy crafting mechanics in the game, not a mission plug and play thing

[@petemellows]

TotK is $100 in Australia. But, I picked it up for AUD$70 as an Amazon preorder.

[@julianx2rl]

5:18 - What about A Link Between Worlds?

[@NintenGeeksMaria]

Don’t know why majingles mask made me laugh so bad 😂

[@TherealBlackheart]

The building mechanics theyre talking about sorts reminds me of kingdom hearts an building the gummy ships

[@justemilyjayne]

i have over 200 hours in breath of the wild and have not finished it. I just need to fight ganon. i just didn't want it to be over.

[@twistedimagev2]

The Ad reads are fine. We love Tokyo Treat / Sakura Co / Trade and any other sponsors you guys get! dont let dumb comments by idiots bother you, you guys are KILLIN IT! and the sponsors/ad reads are great as they are. another great episode, just wish I could hear the bonus even tho I cant afford to sub on Patreon

[@MikeMaz1022]

I also wanna believe that this game is a prequel to skyward sword. That would be a crazy way to bring the timeline full circle

[@GWT305]

Metroid prime remastered looks better and sounds better on a box than Metroid prime remake.

[@sparktaylor8489]

I'm in the boat that Tears of the Kingdom is probably the end of the timeline, Zelda may or may not become Hylia like how Hylia became Zelda. And with wood bringing up how the calamity forced everyone to skyloft I think it fits even more.

[@SnakeEaterGaming]

15:55 this whole part wood talks about right here reminds me of god of war Ragnarok. They took the combat and gameplay from the first game and added to it with mechanics and features. So it still feels fresh and familiar at the same time.

[@christophernash8166]

I have heard theories that the game will be years in the future where the ruins have been rebuilt and that a lot of gameplay will be done in the areas surrounding Hyrule and obviously in the sky. I assume these beings who put the shrines and towers in Hyrule will be involved in bringing the sky islands and other things meaning this new story will be full of many interesting things. Sorry if I sound dumb, I don't know anything really about Zelda lore.

[@bloodmarth]

“Let’s check if Link is left handed in Botw.” Wood, look behind you! Look Wood! LOOK!!

[@jace15076]

The Minish inhabit the tiny sky islands. They will seem massive when Link shrinks down.

[@HarmonicWave]

Haha. 28:48 Wood jokingly talks about how they made Zelda nice and cheap, referring to the $69.99 price point, but then he said $40, and I almost thought he was referring to Breath of the Wild being on sale for $39.99 recently. But no, he was being fully sarcastic.

[@charliefen]

About ads, they don’t bother me, but I did see somewhere in the Discord that some were annoyed more due to iTunes (or whoever they are listening through) also putting their own in, which I can see would be annoying!

[@_shivers]

Pretty much.

[@CristiannoMartins]

By the way, I just learned the channel icon that appears at the video and burned someone's TV is linked to the annotations option under settings for the video. Turning that setting off will hide the icon, so probably the person (if they read this, anyways) can try and disable annotations on videos and turn it on only when they want to follow some links in the video (avoiding the static icon burning their panel during long video sessions)

[@jemiebridges3197]

Good info, but the shows only an hour long, how do you get burn in?

[@linkssz1699]

​@@jemiebridges3197 because the logo is always in the same place so every time they watch an episode that logo is wearing that colour of pixels out faster in that part of the screen. you can also get burn in from movies and games with black borders because the pixels that are off for long periods aren't wearing out like the rest of the screen.

[@ZBatt1]

On Spotify there are added ads like not ready by you guys but that are not apart of spotify because I have premium. Theyre like edited in ads, weird

[@melissasmall4284]

PLEASE don't rob yourself of the enjoyment of Zelda. 😆 Dude you put so much work in all the time I think you deserve to enjoy the game however you most want!

[@Kanoshem]

the vehicle stuff looks like banjo kazooie nuts and bolts tbh (which I love)

[@adrianescobar4392]

1:03:02 Bob, love your barbie thank you guys impression!

[@nicholascolagiovanni7158]

"I want to be able to repair weapons" You can... go to the enemy / location that has the weapon you want and get another one haha. Thats the whole point

[@Christopher_Lefevre]

I don't know if Wood knows that the ads on the audio podcast are TERRIBLE, but the ad reads they do are fine. It's the automatic inserted ads that are grating in the audio version. I refuse to listen to the podcast on audio because of it.

[@bloodmarth]

Well, I’d like to listen to you guys thru Spotify or Apple Podcast but I don’t. And don’t think I will anytime soon. What’s the point of me listening to you guys thru those apps if they’re behind in episodes? As I write this comment, both apps are only on ep. 39 which came out Feb. 16. I’m already caught up and don’t want to wait if I know your podcast is update on your channel. Good for everyone who wants to wait or refuses to use KZbin. So I’ll just keep enjoying your podcast on your channel 😊👍

[@n_logan]

I like the long ad reads ngl

[@Roctendo]

We’ve always had the vouchers in Australia, even during the time you didn’t have them. They are $135 aud though

[@julianx2rl]

Saying TotK looks like BotW is like saying that Smash Ultimate looks like Smash Wii U... You're not wrong!

[@nicoleswanson787]

I like your ad reads! Its actually natural instead of the fake type of read which I personally am not a fan of.

[@danzilphilip6501]

Waiting for my two favourite people❤

[@adorkablemikey]

That intro takes me back and makes me remember that I just turned 30 🤣

[@BlairSlavin]

I like your loooong Ad Reads

[@Kimikokrashh]

Damn i wish the new game was 70 dollars in canada it’s gonna be 90 dollars here just for the game alone 😢

[@GoldChocobo77]

I know right. Same boat here. With taxes is gonnela ba 102$

[@chainclaw07]

To me, considering it just an extension to botw is if they keep the same structure. Can you head toward ganon right after the tutorial? Are there gonna be memories to unlock for story? Just how OoT had a linear story just going from point to point and MM had a 3 day cycle and every character functions on a schedule on that cycle. And every quest is a result of where people are on that cycle. So I'm totally OK with botw+ if they change structure slightly, updates combat and weapon durability, + we're getting vehicles as well

[@jessirarara]

Don't worry Bob. I still haven't finished BOTW yet either. Though for different reasons. I just couldn't get into it myself. It's a gorgeous and wonderful game. I've just gotten to the point where I don't enjoy open world games like I used to. I enjoy open world games still, but just not worlds as big as BOTW because it's too much. I enjoy open world games where I can finish the game in around 25 hours, but can put tons of more hours into if I want to.

[@imnotkaiser]

The main villain in tears of the kingdom is demise, as he set the curse in skyward sword that everything will loop

[@savanilly]

Anybody know which Megaman video Bob was talking about? Would like to see it

[@Jxudo]

TotK just isn't exciting. Just feels like oh boy, I'm going back to that boring hyrule again and those piss poor characters. But this time I get to build a car...

[@kingg2981]

Yes it'll be botw but jam packed and an open world that actually feels like a world like the stone talus with a bokoblin base, the bokoblin mining operations, and dragon carrying the moblin. The amount of playability from world activity variety alone will be par to minecraft.

[@liamevans1543]

The whole putting stuff together and making vehicles so far remind me of banjo-kazooie nuts and bolts. Idk feels like the vibe.