ISA - What Is It And How To Disable It? (ENG) Marek Drives

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4 күн бұрын

What is ISA and how to turn it off?
In 2019, EU lawmakers have agreed on GSR or General Safety Regulation package. The goal is noble: to boost safety for passengers, pedestrians and cyclists. The new measures are expected to prevent 25,000 deaths and reduce serious injuries by at least 140,000 by 2038.
Among the mandatory systems is ISA - Intelligent Speed Assistance. It's emits an audible warning, when you exceed the speed limit, and when the speed limit changes.
As of July 7, 2024 these systems (including ISA) are mandatory for all new cars sold in the EU. All the new systems have to be active every time the vehicle is started.
Here are examples of how to disable ISA in a dozen or so of the most popular brands.
BMW 3:20
Citroen 3:46
Dacia 4:03
Honda 4:34
Hyundai 5:02
KIA 5:18
Lexus 5:40
Mazda 5:59
Mercedes 6:09
Renault 6:20
Suzuki 6:33
Toyota 7:05
Volkswagen 7:41
ISA - find out more:
New rules to improve road safety and enable fully driverless vehicles in the EU
ec.europa.eu/commission/press...
Intelligent speed assistance (ISA) set to become mandatory across Europe
road-safety-charter.ec.europa...
GSR
www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdo...
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@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 3 күн бұрын
We don't ISA in Canada. Thank you very much. I have KSA. Kevin speed assistance. It's worked for decades. Sometimes my wife thinks she's ISA. She comments on my speed constantly.
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 3 күн бұрын
Ah, yes! The "don't you think we're going a bit fast?" warning system. Also known as "are we in a hurry?" safety feature.
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 3 күн бұрын
@@MarekDrivesENG 😂
@christianronn5301
@christianronn5301 3 күн бұрын
I have never wanted to buy a Dacia before. Now suddenly I do. How full of customer contempt do you have to be to put crucial settings like this deep in the touchscreen? I don’t have ISA in my ‘18 Passat but I do have lane keep assist and it stays the hell off until I manually turn it back on again. Now if only the start-stop feature would work the same way…
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 3 күн бұрын
Yes, LKA has to be on by default since about 2018. I recall VW PR telling us how to disable it during the Touareg launch event :) As burying ISA settings deep in any menu, I hope such carmakers will see their sales dwindle until they come to their senses.
@gonz6255
@gonz6255 2 күн бұрын
Volvo EX30 here. The dealer suggested to program the personalised button on the steering wheel so it turns ISA audio off, and he actually did it for me. It's now a reflex : put the car in drive, push the magic button, and drive.
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 2 күн бұрын
Volvo did the right thing.
@Ostap1974
@Ostap1974 2 күн бұрын
I would argue against saving lives. Being driven many cars with speed limit detection -- I have never experienced a car that would work properly. So even if I was a true pedantic driver, higher blood pressure from false positives tends to increase the risk of heart attack...
@RaduB.
@RaduB. 3 күн бұрын
My Mazda 3 is of 2021 vintage. So I was spared of ISA. 👍 Usually immediately after starting the engine my left hand goes automatically and turns the "i-stop" off, though. Then the lane keep assist follows, rather sooner than later, but I sometimes find this feature useful...
@romariossoossoiramor150
@romariossoossoiramor150 2 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot
@LTUman
@LTUman 2 күн бұрын
Good one. Thanks!
@ast5515
@ast5515 2 күн бұрын
I have a feeling German cars will be very popular in certain circles, as they can usually be tinkered with using readily available software (BimmerCode for BMW, VCDS for VW group, etc.), and it's going to make it very easy to get rid of this crap. Permanently. If not, we can always find the speaker in the dash, remove it, and smash it with a hammer.
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 2 күн бұрын
Funny you should suggest that, because the first thing I did when I found about ISA last year, was drive to "my guy", who installed Android Auto on my MINI. He says it's increasingly difficult to code something on cars (including VAG), because they are online, and they revert to the last approved software version. And even if they don't do it automatically, the dealer will install the current software version, when you leave the car in for service. Also increasingly often the warning sounds are emitted through the audio system speakers, so you're fucked from every angle.
@ast5515
@ast5515 2 күн бұрын
@@MarekDrivesENG Eh, people managed to hack the heated seat subscription on BMW, they will find a way. I hope...
@viliukas15
@viliukas15 3 күн бұрын
Mazda MY24 driver here. I usually keep ISA audible warning ON because a) the beeping it is not that annoying (politely beeps twice every time you exceed the speed limit), b) with pressing "mute" you also mute audible warnings of other driver assistance systems, such as Lane Departure warning, Blind spot monitoring warning, front and rear cross traffic alerts and SBS forward alert.
@marjacu3809
@marjacu3809 3 күн бұрын
You beat me by 10 minutes. I wanted to write exactly your comment, word for word. Sucks that Mazda decided to implement it as such, but at least the chime is better (after a minor sw update). Now I want to ask you, Mazda has a setting to give you some leeway of up to 10kmh until it chimes, but it doesn't seem to work. How does it behave in your car? Note I have a 2024 Mazda 3 Sedan
@viliukas15
@viliukas15 3 күн бұрын
@@marjacu3809 the same. I also tried. This function was useful and worked on my MY17 Mazda, but on MY24 it just doesn't seem to do/change anything
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 3 күн бұрын
@marjacu3809 the warning threshold was a different safety feature, and yes, you used to be able to set it 5 or 10 km/h above.
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 2 күн бұрын
@viliukas15 interesting about turning off all the audible warnings. I haven't driven a new Mazda with ISA, I just recorded the button for this video. It seems Dacia has done it best so far.
@baubaul
@baubaul 2 күн бұрын
My Mazda traffic sign recognition records a 5 mph limit from a side road when I’m on a 30mhp road. Have fun with that. Luckily I’m in UK so ISA is not mandatory with the beeping
@wesseltendolle
@wesseltendolle Күн бұрын
I’m picking up my new Volkswagen ID.3 next week. Very curious how annoying ISA will be.
@emersonmsd
@emersonmsd 2 күн бұрын
I had an EV9 for the weekend and did exactly as you described.😅
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 2 күн бұрын
Well done! 😉
@Ribeirasacra
@Ribeirasacra 3 күн бұрын
I do have not yet driven a very new car. But from what I hear the beeps are all the same. You have to take your eyes off the road when you hear a beep and see what the dash is informing you. Here in Spain roadwork signs are low, ground level. They include speed limits. Are the cameras in the cars able to read these? You did not mention it but I thought there is a speed limiter within with this safety initiative. Thus cars will not be able to go faster than the limit it thinks set on the road. Is that correct or is that for the future?
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 3 күн бұрын
These cameras read signs from all over the place, including ones the shouldn't (like that parallel road I mentioned in the video - there's a 20 km/h speed limit on some access road, while the limit on the main road is 50). Some sort of speed limiter is mandatory, but it's not active by default. Depending on the car you can set it yourself or it will adapt to the speed limit automatically. It will prevent you from crossing the speed limit, unless you overcome the gas pedal resistance. It's kind of like reverse cruise control. Instead of setting the minimum speed to maintain, you set the maximum speed, which shouldn't be exceeded. You can also set the car to inform you about the changing speed limit visually, and then there's a prompt, whether the car should adapt the speed (for cruise control or the limiter) to that sign.
@Ribeirasacra
@Ribeirasacra 2 күн бұрын
@@MarekDrivesENG Thank you for the explanation.👍
@jjookkaaooss
@jjookkaaooss 2 күн бұрын
How is ISA dealing with different speed laws in the EU? For example, in Croatia speed limit is valid until the next junction - aftewards it is the standard limit for that road type.
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG Күн бұрын
Same problem in Poland, but that's up to satnav to provide such information. In order for ISA to work there needs to be satnav. So no more cars without it.
@vidpetrovic8907
@vidpetrovic8907 2 күн бұрын
Now I know that my next car will be a Dacia or Renault
@laupakhin
@laupakhin 2 күн бұрын
I've got a 2017 model, so no ISA for me, but I dread the day I have to replace it with something with ISA. My first question that I'll be asking the dealer is "how do I turn the stupid beep off?"
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 2 күн бұрын
Hopefully by then more carmakers will implement better ways of dealing with ISA. Single button solutions or it's a no-go for me.
@Denis-tm5js
@Denis-tm5js 2 күн бұрын
For this reason alone I did not want to wait for the FL Hyundai i30, although it was just half a year away. I knew it would have this ADAS crap baked in, so I opted to buy the PFL model. I just turn off start stop and LKA when I start the car, and I am good to go. I think Dacia / Renault have the best disable system of ADAS, program what you dislike, 2 clicks, and be on your merry way.
@skemsen
@skemsen 2 күн бұрын
Is this ISA collecting data sent to government branches and/or sold to insurance companies? I feel like there is a lack of transparency regarding data collection and handling from modern cars
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG Күн бұрын
Yes. It's collecting data about how often do people turn it off, and how often they exceed speed limits. The data is sent to the EU road safety authority. I assume it's for the body to evaluate how its regulations are fucked up :)
@skemsen
@skemsen Күн бұрын
@@MarekDrivesENG God damn big brother nanny state! 🤬
@takuan650
@takuan650 2 күн бұрын
I'd probably go for used cars which haven't this cr@p installed. I'll stay with my CX5 Mazda Diesel for a while longer I suppose.
@Gilotopia
@Gilotopia 2 күн бұрын
When are you reviewing that sexy duster?
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 2 күн бұрын
It's already available for Channel Members. No ads. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5XHhn5pntCYodU
@TheAllMightyGodofCod
@TheAllMightyGodofCod 3 күн бұрын
Wait, do they know you can be deaf and still drive? I want a car with speed recognition. Mine doesn't and and sometimes I am cruising through a road with speed cameras and I remain at a lower speed because i cant remeber if the speed restriction had ended or not but I dont want an annoying beeping sound!
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 3 күн бұрын
Traffic sign recognition is not perfect, but good enough. Also these days Android Auto shows you the speed limit.
@TheAllMightyGodofCod
@TheAllMightyGodofCod 3 күн бұрын
@@MarekDrivesENG yes, it does. But sometimes it doesn't so I would love to have sign recognition as I hate to pay tickets 😅
@rimmerblues1586
@rimmerblues1586 20 сағат бұрын
Yes, even in the UK we get this lovely feature - so much for Brexit!! 😩 I can't deny that this feature can be of use, especially when driving in unfamiliar areas, however you should be able to turn it off or mute it easily because an angry/annoyed/stressed/infuriated driver is not a safe driver. But now it's about to get worse as new cars in the EU from today will actually physically limit the speed rather than just telling you off. I feel that car manufacturers should no longer express the feeling of freedom and pleasure in their new-car adverts as it just can no longer exist (at least in Europe).
@MarekDrivesENG
@MarekDrivesENG 7 сағат бұрын
Not quite: road-safety-charter.ec.europa.eu/resources-knowledge/media-and-press/intelligent-speed-assistance-isa-set-become-mandatory-across "The ISA regulation provides four options for systems feedback to the driver, from which car manufacturers will be free to choose from: 1. Cascaded acoustic warning 2. Cascaded vibrating warning 3. Haptic feedback through the acceleration pedal 4. Speed control function" So far all implementations I experienced were cascaded acoustic warning. I'd prefer haptic feedback through the acceleration pedal.
@10mbc
@10mbc 3 күн бұрын
Well well well... I have bought a new car in 2024 but it's, basically, a 2017 model with a 2021 engine so no ISA. The one that is now on sale, it does have ISA. I was looking to Hyundai Kona and then at the new Dacia Duster and I was just impressed how well the new Duster implemented the countermeasures for EU's stupidity. The Kona is just not that good but not as bad as the Suzuki but it shows a lack of understanding of a driver's needs. Yes, a car that is similar to the Suzuki would be a deal braker for me. I think you left out Tesla, it's similar to the Merc as it's a one touch deal. We need that in Hyundais. So my care has no ISA but, of course, it does have a load of EU in it. When I start the car, I need to disable the stop / start system (button on the left), set the driving to mode from Eco to Normal (button near the gear lever) and disable Lane Keep Assist (button on the steering wheel. I would love to have a button like on Dacia or have all the buttons on the left, grouped together.
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