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In this enthralling debate, Professor Tariq Ramadan and Maryam Namazie go head-to-head on the topic of Islam in Europe today.
Listed in a 2008 report called Victims of Intimidation: Freedom of Speech within Europe's Muslim Communities, Namazie has had multiple lectures no-platformed and disrupted. She is spokesperson for the Council of ex-Muslims and for Iranian Solidarity. Her writing specialises in challenging cultural relatavism and political Islam.
Professor of contemporary Islamic Studies in Oxford, Tariq Ramadan has held positions in Universities across the world, he is also persona non grata in at least six countries including Saudi Arabia and Egypt for his challenges to undemocratic regimes.
Namazie and Ramadan will be debating some of the biggest challenges facing Islam today.
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@deva8496
@deva8496 4 жыл бұрын
2020, 4 years later. Europe is more Islamised.
@DipakBose-bq1vv
@DipakBose-bq1vv 4 жыл бұрын
The British Labour Party is all Islamic.
@bhawanigupta2953
@bhawanigupta2953 4 жыл бұрын
still other countries are not understanding their tricks
@maximus8574
@maximus8574 4 жыл бұрын
@@markjayd8704 that may be possible but in europe we arent pushing people of buildings for being homosexuals we arent saying abusing women is ok, we arent radicalising our youth
@markjayd8704
@markjayd8704 4 жыл бұрын
@@maximus8574 Its islamabad, its the capital, dude! go check the human development index of islamabad. If you are ranked so high in hdi, health, security, education, freedom of expression etc Then how do you imagine shaming homosexuality or youths radicalization is even possible. Don't believe in what anyone say to you. you should go there and find by and for yourself!
@kuberkapoor100
@kuberkapoor100 4 жыл бұрын
Pkmkb
@roseh9193
@roseh9193 8 жыл бұрын
Islam is not a race, Tariq!
@faction52
@faction52 8 жыл бұрын
hi the term racism is used to define discrimination of both race and creed to be honest. the only other terms more accurate would be islamophobic or 'religist'
@jpats6124
@jpats6124 8 жыл бұрын
+faction52 Rubbish. A creed is not race either. Stop making stuff up. A religion is not a race, you can change your religion but not your race. A religion is a set of ideas, bad ones most of the time.
@faction52
@faction52 8 жыл бұрын
+Julie Paterson i know of course a creed is not a race but the term racism has been used to describe the literal race discrimination and also more broadly for religious descrimination. its just the word thay is used. it would be more accurate to say religist but i dont think that has come into the oxford dictionary just yet
@faction52
@faction52 8 жыл бұрын
+Boogey Man rubbish
@faction52
@faction52 8 жыл бұрын
+Al Cubz well any religious state christian or muslim may be considered discriminatory as their head of state has to be of a certain religion. this is the world we live in
@mackjeez
@mackjeez 8 жыл бұрын
When did a religion become a race? Is there such a thing as Christianophobia or Hinduphobia or buddhiphobia?
@ryan4305
@ryan4305 8 жыл бұрын
+mackjeez The suffix -phobia has nothing to do with races, so the term "Islamophobia" can be used.
@mackjeez
@mackjeez 8 жыл бұрын
@ryan4305 I completely agree but you missed the point of my argument. The issue is that the term (islamaphobia) is more often than not associated with race. Even in 2011 the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) began defining islamaphobia as a form of racism. Every Muslim association and even the Arab League state that"Islam is not a race", but Islamophobia is racism. Which doesn't make any freaking sense. It's like saying "Christianity is not a race", but Christophobia is racism.
@haveagoodwinter5597
@haveagoodwinter5597 8 жыл бұрын
Since the jews convinced everybody they were the chosen people. Been happening for centuries.
@ryan4305
@ryan4305 8 жыл бұрын
mackjeez What i don't understand is why so many people makes a huge deal about it. You're correct racism isn't the right term to describe islamophobia but you understood the point he wanted to make, so why don't you just add it to the long list of commonly misused words ?
@mackjeez
@mackjeez 8 жыл бұрын
ryan4305 Well, the issue is that it's a pretty big word to be misused, especially in modern western society. Imagine Christians using Christophobia the same way Islam is using Islamophobia. A journalist, celebrity, actor...etc.. can literately bash Christians and Christianity to their heart's content without repercussions. By acknowledging that any criticizing of Islam is considered Islamophobic (racist), you are creating a scenario where in western society, you cannot under any circumstance criticize the religion or it's actions. It's bad enough people died by drawing a cartoon of their prophet, but soon we won't even be able to state the obvious problems of Islam without being called a bigot, racist or even worse, be persecuted for our opinions. This "misused word" shouldn't even exist let alone be associated with something like racism.
@glitteryroses
@glitteryroses 3 ай бұрын
Maryam Namazie is so well spoken and intelligent.
@JAIJAI-ft1fk
@JAIJAI-ft1fk 6 жыл бұрын
it's time to wake up Europe
@edgarvalderrama1143
@edgarvalderrama1143 5 жыл бұрын
It's PAST time for Europe to wake up!
@zahando8803
@zahando8803 5 жыл бұрын
@The Last Saxon well didn't go so well😏😏
@elp.3478
@elp.3478 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, wake up, stop provoking us.
@niribiliborno5177
@niribiliborno5177 4 жыл бұрын
Right
@abuthalib9035
@abuthalib9035 4 жыл бұрын
@m d He is A NOT GOOD MUSLIM THEN!!
@charlottepatterson7639
@charlottepatterson7639 6 жыл бұрын
You have no right to kill me for what I say
@lunchwagondavis9983
@lunchwagondavis9983 5 жыл бұрын
That's a strawman. Neither debater promoted such a thing! Dr Ramadan was stridently clear in his support for free speech even against Islam, while the woman seemed concerned only with the freedom to lampoon Islam.
@lunchwagondavis9983
@lunchwagondavis9983 5 жыл бұрын
@Catherine Stonestreet Saudi Arabia, Iran, Oman and some other Muslim countries forbid alcohol consumption and punish violators by whipping. Except if you're Christian. In that case they allow it, although perhaps not in public. That seems very lenient to me when I think about laws regarding alcohol and drugs in the west.
@lunchwagondavis9983
@lunchwagondavis9983 5 жыл бұрын
@Catherine Stonestreet Your argument against the statement "you have no right to say something that kills me inside" is to tell that person to go back where they came from or to assimilate if they want to stay whatever you live. But is that really the right response? There's nothing in the statement that identifies the person as a foreigner and the statement itself doesn't strike me as really controversial. There are many examples of things we forbid each other to say, certainly in public, because it hurts people, because "it kills them inside". I should say because it kills *us* inside, though. We now say "the N word" when that word was once commonplace. And there are some things you can say that US courts have deemed "fighting words" and saying them akin to a physical assault. Who wants the right to say something so hurtful it kills someone else inside anyway? Or what could anyone have to say that is so important it requires being permitted to be so hurtful to someone else. Maybe there is something but I can't think of what it might be. I hope you reconsider the question. I think it's what you would want that other person to do regarding you and your feelings.
@faizasharif8564
@faizasharif8564 5 жыл бұрын
Catherine Stonestreet mother Mary wore exactly that your bible says you should cover your head then how is it wrong to practice that I think you should too
@lunchwagondavis9983
@lunchwagondavis9983 5 жыл бұрын
@Catherine Stonestreet Like I said, you're welcome to laugh at my clothes but it's not right you expect me to wear a burka. Please try to pay attention. Now, back to your request: how am I supposed to blow you, you being a woman? I'll be honest, it's a weird request, but, no judgements here! Whatever gets you off. You want me to wear a burka? Let's both wear burkas!
@naninani1397
@naninani1397 5 жыл бұрын
Why can't this people host show on Christianity in middle East?
@naninani1397
@naninani1397 5 жыл бұрын
Sir . Lebanon was a Christian country few years back now it was a Muslim country. Turkey was a ruled by a Christian leader and now a it was a muslim country ther number will be small but it will multiply in big number why they are traveling 4000 kilometers to Europe ,when they have rich neighbourhood countries like Saudi Dubai oman Qatar omen that they can share same language and culture that can mingle with them.
@alemradoncic368
@alemradoncic368 5 жыл бұрын
Boronchi Pradeep how did Islam reach Indonesia and Asia when no Islam Empire in history has ever stretch into Indonesia or China where mosques are being burnt down by the government as we speak. Look in your history books. Even the Mughals never got that far or had the technology to introduce the beautiful qualities Islam has within its way of life. Explain that. Indonesia a land of islands and indigenous people have been presented Islam by who? I’ll answer that. The Quran reached them. Not people. They read it and understood it. Didn’t spread through war or conquer.
@mudassir417
@mudassir417 5 жыл бұрын
Because we know everything about christianity and beyond that you follow ... So time to give you some knowledge fam... peace ✌🏿
@undoyourmistakes5730
@undoyourmistakes5730 5 жыл бұрын
@@alemradoncic368 ... You won my heart!
@alemradoncic368
@alemradoncic368 5 жыл бұрын
Aly Mohammed I just speak with truth and I observe what is presented with open eyes and without doubt. As long as your curious and like Allah said “do you not ponder?” I just want to be the person with the answers to your questions.
@ahmedismail823
@ahmedismail823 3 жыл бұрын
"A smart person knows what to say (and their right to say), a wise person knows whether to say it or not."
@fuyoutube854
@fuyoutube854 3 жыл бұрын
The Quran is by far and easily one of the most communal books ever written if not the most communal
@barrak2k059
@barrak2k059 3 жыл бұрын
@@fuyoutube854 alhamdulilah
@seilafeler3814
@seilafeler3814 3 жыл бұрын
Rightly said...
@ppppidk4404
@ppppidk4404 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrak2k059 he was mocking it, u misunderstood his comment.
@ppppidk4404
@ppppidk4404 3 жыл бұрын
@Michael Smyth *way of life.*^
@AntonioBrandao
@AntonioBrandao 8 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is this room full of Muslims?
@RS_0747
@RS_0747 8 жыл бұрын
+Antonio Brandao Its just you
@Tyrionhessen
@Tyrionhessen 8 жыл бұрын
+Antonio Brandao its just you.. specsaver 2 for 1 buddy
@xRsAtx
@xRsAtx 8 жыл бұрын
+Antonio Brandao No its not just you, thats what always happens with debates about islam, they flood the room to try and intimidate and jeer at the opponent and interrupt, youtube it , it happens all the time
@Logia1978
@Logia1978 8 жыл бұрын
+xRsAtx the problem is that the muslim guy is much more rational.... and that's the problem for islam and muslim haters....
@muhannadsarhan
@muhannadsarhan 8 жыл бұрын
+Antonio Brandao I'd assume that there is a method for inviting audience, maybe reserved seats or something. But at least this thread is full of Muslims ;)
@sheilaacevedo-alvarez9203
@sheilaacevedo-alvarez9203 4 жыл бұрын
She is great!
@gr8tgee
@gr8tgee 4 жыл бұрын
The lady is brilliant and she made Ramadan look as he is. A cunning two faced liar. He speaks calm nice and relaxed, but he's an Islamist at heart.
@eduardofangueiro4066
@eduardofangueiro4066 3 жыл бұрын
This aged well - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan ; "In November 2017, Tariq Ramadan took leave of absence from Oxford to contest allegations of rape and sexual misconduct.[10] The university's statement noted that an "agreed leave of absence implies no acceptance or presumption of guilt".[4] In February 2018, he was formally charged with raping two women: a disabled woman in 2009 and a feminist activist in 2012.[11][12] In September 2019, the French authorities have expanded the investigation against Ramadan, already charged with raping two women, to include evidence from two more alleged victims.[13] On 5 December 2019, a Swiss woman who had accused him of rape in 2018, launched a new case against him for slander.[14] In February 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping two more women[15] and in October 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping a fifth woman.[16]"
@gr8tgee
@gr8tgee 3 жыл бұрын
@@eduardofangueiro4066 It doesn't surprise me he's a very arrogant guy who's ego is bigger then the man.
@glitteryroses
@glitteryroses 3 ай бұрын
​@@eduardofangueiro4066 So unsurprising. His demeanor oozes capability.
@Allday123
@Allday123 2 жыл бұрын
Being a Christian for all my generations I would never imagined that one day people would come up with something called defending their right to insult a religion.
@suma6881
@suma6881 2 жыл бұрын
and play the victim when people respond🤦‍♀️
@worfoz
@worfoz 2 жыл бұрын
@@suma6881 jesus is a god, the people who said he was their prophet lost their caliphate now, we expose a child rapist with the best cartoons and people are raging because they think they are the victims of muhamed cartoons... alla has slaves, if you mock alla for being needy, you do not insult a religion
@straightpath3626
@straightpath3626 2 жыл бұрын
Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim Allah said in the Qur'an Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were 'once' one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing, Will they not then believe? And We have placed firm mountains upon the earth so it does not shake with them, and made in it broad pathways so they may find their way. And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy, still they turn away from its signs. And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon- each traveling in an orbit. We have not granted immortality to any human before you ' O Prophet', so if you die, will they live forever? Every soul will taste death, And We test you 'O humanity' with good and evil as a trial, then to Us you will 'all' be returned. [ Qur'an 21: 30-35 ]
@worfoz
@worfoz 2 жыл бұрын
@@straightpath3626 scientists know that there are no heavens, Ptolemy was wrong anyone who rejects the prophets and the bible is a disbeliever, and hell is their destiny ps your man made quran is corrupt and pagan
@straightpath3626
@straightpath3626 2 жыл бұрын
@@worfoz Congratulation to you for attacking Islam impatiently. We know your disease in the deep of your heart. Only Allah's will one could know about Islam otherwise not. Allah hate arrogant people who compare any of His creation with Him.
@Chaz-oy4ew
@Chaz-oy4ew 5 жыл бұрын
Being obsessed with one's rights is very arrogant? This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He just doesnt understand human rights in their purest form. It's scary listening to him get applause.
@allthatstitching
@allthatstitching 4 жыл бұрын
Chaz The demographic of the audience provides an answer.
@duniakhalil2697
@duniakhalil2697 Жыл бұрын
Well-said Mariam Namazi!
@nikolacar3503
@nikolacar3503 3 жыл бұрын
We humans are blessed with intellect only to realize how stupid we are, and we are getting closer to our goal every day
@googaaklo153
@googaaklo153 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@anonymousanonymous-sn6wl
@anonymousanonymous-sn6wl 3 жыл бұрын
Allaah is the creator of everything earth and sky and everything in universe and above you your belief and us our believe your choice leave us alone we pray for your guidance we love Our creator.we worship one All mighty ALLAAH THAT IS IT ACCEPT OR REJECT YOUR PROBLEM.MAY YOU RECEIVE GUIDANCE.WE WILLNEVER INSULT ANY RELIGION NOR ANY PROPHET OF ALLAAH WE LOVE AND RESPECT THEM ALL..MAY YOU STOP YOUR HATRED OR JEAULOSY FOR MUSLIMS YOUR OPINION IS NOT IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE PART OF SOCIETY RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S BELIEFS WE ARE IN ONE WORLD HELP TO STOP THE WARS AGAINST MUSLIMS STOP THOSE WHO MURDER TORTURE OCCUPY STEAL WEALTH OF POOR COUNTRIES IT IS DISGUSTING ILLEGAL SHAMEFUL .STOP EVIL THAT IS A MUCH BETTER WAY FOR YOU MUSLIM OR NOT WE ARE ALL CREATURES OF THE SAME KIND SPEAK GOOD OF EACH OTHER ISLAAM IS NOT AN IDEA IT IS A WAY OF LIFE.WE BELIEVE IN ALLAAH AND FOLLOW OUR BELOVED PROPHET PEACE BE UPON HIM. HE IS THE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS NO MORE MESSENGERS.AFTER HIM WE ARE THE LAST OF CREATION.END OF TIME WILL COME SOONER OR LATER.ISLAAM WILL SURVIVE..YOU AND NO ONE CAN AND WILL STOP ISLAAM NO EVIL GOVERNMRNTS WILL EVER SUCCEED LONG LIVE MUSLIMS LONG LIVE ISLAAM LONG LIVE JUSTICE AND PEACE .WE PRAY FOR LOVE AND PEACE AND TO LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN PEACE.AND HARMONY WE LOVE ALL CREATION OF ALLAAH WE FEAR NO ONE BUT ALLAAH WE ARE NOR AFRAID OF ANY ONE BUT ALLAAH.THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.LETS STOP ALL KILLINGS AND STEALING OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES .OUR EXISTANCE.AND OUR DIGNITY..THIS WORLD NOW NEED NEW JUST LEADERS.AND STOP THIS GLOBALISATION EXPROPIATION.AND JUGLE AND PAGANISM IS GONE FROM THIS WORLD IT CAN'T COME BACK IT IS FINISH WE AS WOMAN SHOULD APPRECIATE OUR LAWS IN QURAAN OUR CHAPTERS IN QURAAN WHICH PROTECTS ALL WOMEN IN THIS WORLD WE ARE FAVOURED ABOVE ALL WE ARE GRATEFUL.TO THE QURAAN AND PRAY TO BE BENIFICIAL . TO ALL WOMAN AND MEN WE HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER WITH LOVE AND RESPECT.ISLAAM IS FOR ALL
@lizzmiirad7903
@lizzmiirad7903 3 жыл бұрын
@J C im muslim but the comment above is the worst way to preach, reminds me of christians who just say:"Repent"
@kederabdi4978
@kederabdi4978 3 жыл бұрын
@@lizzmiirad7903 and please please don't tell me that it's because it's immature when the question is based off the fact that you do indeed justify it...
@jay904duval
@jay904duval 3 жыл бұрын
@Bob Smith 🤦‍♂️
@markashdown1314
@markashdown1314 Жыл бұрын
Whataboutery from our Muslim friend on here. Flogging a dead horse.
@ashokpjain
@ashokpjain 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is a fool. How did he ever manage to become a Professor? The lady is a million times smarter.
@navidallahvaran5899
@navidallahvaran5899 4 жыл бұрын
Not at all
@anirudhsharma2415
@anirudhsharma2415 4 жыл бұрын
navid allahvaran yes absolutely
@glitteryroses
@glitteryroses 3 ай бұрын
Right! Like these days you see with Professorship saying so much nonsense and it's so baffling
@johnsteinman5496
@johnsteinman5496 4 жыл бұрын
There is no right to unjustified VIOLENCE‼️
@bijues1
@bijues1 4 жыл бұрын
www.amazon.com/Theological-Virus-Defeating-Islamophilia-Matarisvan-ebook/dp/B087YSYLW4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=theological+virus&qid=1588476127&sr=8-1 Support this book save nations
@S1990G
@S1990G 3 жыл бұрын
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@endryl08
@endryl08 3 жыл бұрын
That can become tricky when u call out any criticism as ''VIOLENCE''.
@rouanoelofsen9331
@rouanoelofsen9331 3 жыл бұрын
@@endryl08 Violence in Islam as seen by the world = kidnaping, murder, invasion
@i_______i________i_______i6073
@i_______i________i_______i6073 3 жыл бұрын
cuz the world is jealous at Islam,and want to look at Islam from a poor angle for some reasons fastest growing religion for a reason :)
@blacky93able
@blacky93able Жыл бұрын
I’m with Maryam Namazie. I admired her.
@travisjones3228
@travisjones3228 3 жыл бұрын
WOW!! The woman won this debate, hands down!!!
@victorrodrigues5448
@victorrodrigues5448 4 жыл бұрын
I *have* to be free to have the toughts that I have. And I *have* to be free to speak them, as much as I want. This is the freedom I want, because it's the *duty* that I have to myself and to others.
@waheedakhan1614
@waheedakhan1614 4 жыл бұрын
Victor Rodrigues oLmi! ymp
@abrahamjatta1676
@abrahamjatta1676 4 жыл бұрын
You have a right to your freedom but you have the right to respect others or stay away from them and also you have the right to obedience because with all your rights at your own place can't be replicated to other people or other places if they are in line with your self needed freedom.
@victorrodrigues5448
@victorrodrigues5448 3 жыл бұрын
@@abrahamjatta1676, you have no idea what freedom of speech is. What does 'right of obedience' mean, what are you talking about? Obedience, is it a right or is it a duty? You seem to be confused. If you don't agree with my freedom of speech, you are free to go. And, if I agree with that, you are free to refute my arguments. That's the freedom that you have (and that I have). 'Right to obedience'??? Obedience to whom? To you, to muslims? You are wrong, man! This is a free world, not even God forces you to obey Him; let alone men can force you. You have a long road to go in learning what 'freedom' means...!
@dazaiosamu452
@dazaiosamu452 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorrodrigues5448 everyone is obedient to something Your obedient to your view of freedom we our But as far as I see nowadays freedom means disrespecting others belief Ones freedom clashing with others World going down in hell
@rhodasmith2586
@rhodasmith2586 3 жыл бұрын
It depends what thoughts you have. Harmful thoughts is not logic to share and double standard thoughts has to be explained individually as it depends on the mental value of that individual.
@099Nitro
@099Nitro 2 жыл бұрын
It is refreshing to see you actually creating controversy and tackle delicate issue of liberal values. Good job to the whole board.
@tylsimys67
@tylsimys67 3 жыл бұрын
In Europe difference by looks, accent and especially behavior provokes prejudice from majority, yes. But very seldom a death or incarceration or even public beating.
@yunusnagdee6712
@yunusnagdee6712 3 жыл бұрын
15th
@houdkhan9154
@houdkhan9154 3 жыл бұрын
@@gingernoise711 no people are fucking bigots and racists in london you fool
@Hannestv4607
@Hannestv4607 3 жыл бұрын
****////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️ //////////*** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- *"YHWH SAVES " Elijah means------------- --------------" MY GOD IS YHWH" John means ----------------------------" YHWH has been gracious"" Zakariya means -----------------------""YHWH has remembered"" Jacob means----------------------------"YHWH will PROTECT!" *******+++++++are all prophets according to the Quran++++++********
@monkeyseemonkeydo432
@monkeyseemonkeydo432 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hannestv4607 What’s your name? And what does it mean?
@johnmajid1215
@johnmajid1215 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hannestv4607 you are one of those that Jesus speek of you words that Jesus describe you as fool wicked adulterer that's how Jesus call someone like you your bible says so
@globalcitizen4697
@globalcitizen4697 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with the lady. She is telling the truth.
@aamnahqaiserqadri5897
@aamnahqaiserqadri5897 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Muslim and I love to practice Islam, that was Taught by our Prophet PBUH
@deebonash1495
@deebonash1495 4 жыл бұрын
Muhammad was a white racist and sexist Sahih al-Bukhari Book 3 Hadith 63 -Narrated Anas bin Malik: While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib." The Prophet said, "I am here to answer your questions." Sahih Muslim 6081 - “It was narrated that Abu Juhaifah said: ‘I saw the Messenger of Allah with a white complexion and some white hairs.’ Sahih Muslim 6071 - “It was narrated from Al-Jurairi from Abu At-Tufail…he was white with an elegant face.’ “…the whiteness of his cheeks.” 4:1208 Sunan abu dawud- 3:1002 The Muslim sources even go out of their way to remind us how white Muhammad was. They frequently reference the whiteness of his various body parts-something that was not mentioned about any other prophet, from Abraham to Zachariah. Find the following in sahih albukari “The whiteness of his shins.” 1:8:367 “…the whiteness of the thigh of Allah’s Prophet.” 8:3325 “…the whiteness of his leg.” 456:7:67 “…the whiteness of his stomach.” 9:90:342 “…the whiteness of his armpits.” 8:78:631 Find in sunan abu dawud “…the whiteness of the forearms.” 20:3200 *WHITE MUHAMMAD OWNED BLACK SLAVES* Sahih Al bukhari- 7263,6161 Black slave shot to death while holding Muhammad's luggage- 3858 So mubammad had sex with a 9year old girl, robbed caravans, beheaded hundreds of Jews (he is okay)- but this black man grabbed cloak before spoils were divided so he is going to hell Provisions of the Afterlife Which Lie Within Prophetic Guidance (By Ibn Qayyim Al-jawziya) list 28 of the slaves muhammad owned. Named a woman "ship" in arabic because he loaded her like a ship to carry his things. Muhammad had sex with his slaves- ibn ishaq page.653 (i guess thats only creepy when thomas jefferson does it) *he called black people "raisin heads" sahih albukari- 7142 A woman may never be a leader because their mind is deficient of a man, and since oprah wants to run for prez and she is black. Guess muhammad disagrees-7099 *MUHAMMAD SAYS SATAN LOOKS LIKE A BLACK MAN* ibn ishaq page 243. If you say muhammad was black. Thats a death penalty. AL SHIFA-Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman page 387 Why are some black people muslim.... they should be some of the last people to become muslim. Muhammad was clearly a false prophet. Muhammad thought he was possesed by a demon.. he was a sinner and couldnt save anyone let alone himself JESUS THE CHRIST HISTORICALLY EXISTED, HE HISTORICALLY CLAIMED HE IS GOD, HISTORICALLY WAS CRUCIFIED FOR DOING SO, HE HISTORICALLY ROSE FROM THE DEAD. If he failed, morality becomes subjective, but guess what he didnt! There is real hope for real Justice from our creator. The day of salvation is today! What do you have to lose but your pride!
@conniead5206
@conniead5206 4 жыл бұрын
Have you researched how your sacred text was put together? Or by whom? I gather that of the some 600,000 writings that were gathered only about 2% were kept and the rest were burnt. This occurred long after his death. One seeking to run everything gathered the writings and he gave them to one man to go through. If Muhammad was a true prophet and the last one what were these two guys? You do not even face in the direction of the gathering place (mecca) that Muhammad went to, searched for his path, and then supposedly found it. Men who come after a person who was supposedly gifted by an entity ALWAYS mess with things. Abdul ..... Malik is the one who picked the guy who burnt 98% of writings about or by your Prophet. Then Malik created the Quran. Muhammad was long dead and neither met him. Petra is the direction the earliest mosques faced. It also fit the physical description of his mecca. The rivers are no longer there but the were. Your mecca was never visited by Muhammad because there was nothing there. No trade routes, no olives, no grapes, no mountains, no farms, not even a creek, let alone two of them. The New Testament, Old Testament, and the Torah have similar problems.
@conniead5206
@conniead5206 4 жыл бұрын
Deebo Nash Actually Arabs generally do not consider themselves “white”. Real Arabs are actually semetic. Hilarious. Anyway, I suggest you read up on the genetics and research about Homo Sapien skin shades. And look at color charts. Especially for varying shades of brown. I stand out when I am in front of a white sheet. My makeup is pale beige to beige depending on how much I am in the sun. Add to that is you and I share the same ancient “mother”. As with ALL our Homo Sapien relatives, the farther from the Equator our people settled the lighter shade of brown they tended to be. How much time spent in sunlight affected it too. Old photos of many indigenous of what is now North America show most as dark brown to “black”. Not red. Same with some of the Japanese and other East Asians. I gather “pale” did not start showing up among the Homo Sapiens of Europe until a measly 14,000 years ago. The source I read said it took about 6,000 years for it to be the dominate shade of brown. This has probably been adjusted since I read about it two years ago. You and I could might be able to trace our genetic markers back to the same tribe in Africa. I gather we evolved from the same rodent that survived a near extinction event. Hi coz’.
@deebonash1495
@deebonash1495 4 жыл бұрын
@@conniead5206 this is grade Sahih. Ya dumbass how about know that this is from their top scholars not my words. Sahih is as authentic as it gets. Donkey
@bensonhoon7018
@bensonhoon7018 4 жыл бұрын
"Can any Muslim convince me that Koran is the true Word of God? Can anyone tell me the name of the person who died on the cross instead of Jesus? Why He admitted He is the Son of God? Why Allah resurrected Him? Why He didn’t tell the truth to the disciples of Jesus that he is not Jesus but instead commissioned them to preach Jesus’ resurrection to the whole world?"
@dionl.garcia8981
@dionl.garcia8981 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this discussion.. very interesting ...
@camilla1234567zz
@camilla1234567zz 5 жыл бұрын
this guy is literally contradicting what he says 5 mins before and is interrupting her. He is quite clearly, as the lady mentioned with his view on gender segregation, a misogynist.
@jennymisteqq695
@jennymisteqq695 4 жыл бұрын
Hannah Abdi Islam and Women’s Rights. A classic oxymoron.
@jennymisteqq695
@jennymisteqq695 4 жыл бұрын
Hannah Abdi Where on earth did you find killing and raping women in the tenets of Christianity?
@harooncoulibaly4271
@harooncoulibaly4271 7 күн бұрын
You watched the image only or with sound? There is no contradiction in his speech. It is you who listened him with four ears.
@RememberTheSlapFilms
@RememberTheSlapFilms 4 жыл бұрын
By their fruits shall ye know them.
@joehouston2833
@joehouston2833 4 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@upstar21t
@upstar21t 4 жыл бұрын
You have a picture of ahriman so I doubt anyone should listen to you.
@marabara7863
@marabara7863 4 жыл бұрын
Fruits of crusides ? Or the frutis of Temple knight ? Or the fruits of colonization ? Or the fruit of destroying Iraq, Afgahnistan , libea .... ? The fruits of Hiroshema? WW1 /WW2 ? Inded By their fruits shall we know them !!! AMEN !!
@shaguftahamid6877
@shaguftahamid6877 4 жыл бұрын
Remember The Slap Films ❤️❤️❤️www.alislam.org/
@agentbrody7
@agentbrody7 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-wt7mm the fruit of your labour. "fruitless are the deeds of darkness"
@liaqatkhan49
@liaqatkhan49 5 жыл бұрын
Tariq is not offering a solution..just looking to control and belittle.
@stephanielynn608
@stephanielynn608 5 жыл бұрын
PRECISELY!!!
@kessikessi7533
@kessikessi7533 3 жыл бұрын
Charle Abdou and all world attacks is 100% made by intelligence to make ppl hate Islam and Muslims so they go vote for racist parties like marine lepen and SD
@harooncoulibaly4271
@harooncoulibaly4271 7 күн бұрын
May be you watched the images without sound.
@carlosrosado-martinez8288
@carlosrosado-martinez8288 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Ms. Namazie (please forgive me if I got that wrong) was awesome. She was articulate, educated, truthful and insightful. It’s even more impressive that she didn’t fall into the philosophical and semantic traps this gentleman attempted to throw at her. Hands down she was the winner of this debate!
@carlosrosado-martinez8288
@carlosrosado-martinez8288 3 жыл бұрын
@Pain Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but in the future let’s use facts.
@anwarhussain4852
@anwarhussain4852 2 жыл бұрын
" Open Discussion & Contextual REFORM in Islam is Badly Needed " !!!!
@paulgrech4210
@paulgrech4210 3 жыл бұрын
The lady taking part in this debate spoke with deep subject knowledge. There was little or no fat on her words, delivered with authority, conviction and utter clarity
@ugursenturk5860
@ugursenturk5860 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@paulgrech4210
@paulgrech4210 3 жыл бұрын
@@ugursenturk5860 when you quit giggling, do you have a point you wanna make?
@ugursenturk5860
@ugursenturk5860 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulgrech4210nah
@paulgrech4210
@paulgrech4210 3 жыл бұрын
@@ugursenturk5860 shocker
@ugursenturk5860
@ugursenturk5860 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulgrech4210 absolutley
@biomutant242
@biomutant242 5 жыл бұрын
Islamic critical thinking is an oxymoron!
@charleskittelp.1125
@charleskittelp.1125 4 жыл бұрын
I notice that the muslims did not clap their hands when Maryam end her speech!
@ahmadabdullateef3386
@ahmadabdullateef3386 4 жыл бұрын
It's a thing you know. Unlike christianity where you cant question anything and atheism who just ask unnecessary questions, we muslims are allowed to ask questions and to have doubts. Faith in Islam is strengthened by doubt and asking questions. Why do you think muslims have so many scholars?
@charleskittelp.1125
@charleskittelp.1125 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadabdullateef3386 I have a few questions: 1. Which kind of god give the rules like that quran 4/34: "...beat your women...", 47/4: "...who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them...", 5/33: "....The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land..." 2. quran and allah did not end slavery! He forbid pork in one verse, but he did not send a single verse without other options for ending slavery. Which kind of god did not end slavery? 3. What is the definition of pedophilia? Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine. Reference:Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255 In-book reference : Book 26, Hadith 60 English translation : Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 325
@ahmadabdullateef3386
@ahmadabdullateef3386 4 жыл бұрын
@@charleskittelp.1125 Quran 4:34. Only applies to women who abuse their rights and by extension their husbands. Explicitly stated you can't cause harm, can't hit the face can't leave a mark. Its not beating then is it? And secondly quote who dam verse. Quran 4:74 "So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds." Its a war verse. Really don't see the problem here. Quran 5:33. Again its a war verse. What do you expect them to do, hand them roses? 2. There are multiple verses in the Quran whereby slaves are freed to forgive sins, slaves are allowed to buy their freedom etc. Not one verse condones slavery so yes it came to end slavery, without going through a bloody civil war. 3. Lets say he did. And? Consider these things (or don't): She was previously engaged to another She was fully aware and knows what she agreed to For over 1200 nobody made an issue about their marriage until 1905, what where you guys doing in that time? Sleeping? Its obvious it wasn't an issue and thus was not paedophilia at all for 1200 years unless your ready to condemn your ancestors of paedophilia as well?
@charleskittelp.1125
@charleskittelp.1125 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadabdullateef3386 I didn't ask you what is the interpratetion of verses, what kind of god says that things? 1.The verse (4:34) does not contain your explanations and it is unclear what you make these explanations. What kind of god wants believers and non-believers to fight for himself or for his command? Frankly, I would expect a god not to care for him or her to be believed. You send orders to a society and society does not want to give up their beliefs, then you bring these people across and send war orders! If there is such a thing happen today, what is said to the man who says these orders? What is the place of war (beheading, cut the 5:22 hands and feet on alternate sides cut off...) based on belief in orders that send messages to humanity? Will we act with these rules accordingly in 2100? 2. Many options are offered instead of releasing! As I said, it directly prohibits pork but contradictively, an order from God does not prohibit slavery. 3. Are you a psychopath? We live in 2020, you say where was your mind until 1905! What you say is really pathetic arguments. If our ancestors are cannibals, should we be like that right now? If we look at what you say, we must live in this century according to the rules of the seventh century!
@Rico-Suave_
@Rico-Suave_ 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the whole debate it was good, thanks for posting it
@cyrilclarke7469
@cyrilclarke7469 3 жыл бұрын
My peace i bring to you my peace i leave with you please give ala his rightful place ln his world he is going to judge all evi jesus is the ansure .
@ppppidk4404
@ppppidk4404 3 жыл бұрын
@@cyrilclarke7469 I didn’t understand ur sentence?
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 3 жыл бұрын
***////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////**** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** are all prophets according to the Quran
@jetmirzhabari8808
@jetmirzhabari8808 3 жыл бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 I dont understand
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 3 жыл бұрын
does someone explain this curiosity in Islam to me? If Allah is not YHWH! **The word God (Allah, El , ELohim,.......) is just a title !! YHWH is the proper name of the 1 true God!** Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ALLAH IS YHWH*** Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY GOD IS YHWH*** Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ELOHIM IS YHWH*** Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY EL IS YHWH***
@wanderlost7707
@wanderlost7707 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know what the guy was trying to prove - his arguments were so fuzzy, but imho he ended up proving that Muslim=Islamist.
@edgarvalderrama1143
@edgarvalderrama1143 5 жыл бұрын
Islamophobia is my default and instinctive position! I call it "self defense!"
@billymandem1628
@billymandem1628 5 жыл бұрын
Thats sad
@siciidjava4216
@siciidjava4216 5 жыл бұрын
I am Muslim i respect other people believes like Christians, they are my workmates.
@MsWencai
@MsWencai 5 жыл бұрын
Anglophbic one word.
@Un11-v5e
@Un11-v5e 4 жыл бұрын
The loss of humanity in ww1, ww2, can you define
@bimsalabim3842
@bimsalabim3842 4 жыл бұрын
It will be cool if you know Islam a little bit minimum read the qur'an first. If u still Islamophobia, it's yours.
@usmanidriss57
@usmanidriss57 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly in every meaningful society there is right to freedom of expression, but it should be used with respect for humanity. So please don't allow political selfish interest to blindfold the TRUTH.
@donaldhawkins5209
@donaldhawkins5209 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is dieing thank goodness
@Chowmein977
@Chowmein977 2 жыл бұрын
@@donaldhawkins5209 ur mum is dying white boi sharia law takin over inshallah Allah hu akbar
@abebrosiczki637
@abebrosiczki637 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chowmein977 My brother, please be a good example to other people to spread the message of Islam. That's how Muslims are.. 🙏🙏
@shoqolatiste
@shoqolatiste 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chowmein977 HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh this nikka
@tomolo2619
@tomolo2619 2 жыл бұрын
***////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////**** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** **********are all prophets according to the Quran**************
@renelaizer6518
@renelaizer6518 5 жыл бұрын
Would an Islamic country allow her to speak out against Islam?
@ranadib1759
@ranadib1759 4 жыл бұрын
How
@ranadib1759
@ranadib1759 4 жыл бұрын
What so America can block off Mexicans deport all muslims and blacks have no freedom of speech but were bad
@iwillspeakwords6249
@iwillspeakwords6249 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Muslim allows to speak any things against Islam, but after speech you have to run, flee as soon as possible 😃
@christopherdesimone206
@christopherdesimone206 3 жыл бұрын
@@ranadib1759 Is that English your speaking?, because I cant understand what your trying to say. Did you mean; What, so America can block off Mexicans, deport all Muslim's, and black's have no freedom of speech, but we're bad?.
@JC_inc
@JC_inc 3 жыл бұрын
@Rene Laizer The Islamic countries’s constitutions aren’t based on the Magna Carta/Judeo-Christian. It’s up to every country to uphold their laws.
@Strawn149
@Strawn149 3 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed with a liberal actually speaking up for liberal freedoms. Very rare these days.
@saidinmas
@saidinmas 3 жыл бұрын
Are you liberal enough to portray the French president like Hitler as freedom of expression?
@uverpro3598
@uverpro3598 3 жыл бұрын
She's a Communist, not a liberal.
@saidinmas
@saidinmas 3 жыл бұрын
@@uverpro3598 Can she be a liberal communist?
@mustplay7212
@mustplay7212 3 жыл бұрын
@@saidinmas no. liberalists are liberals.
@uverpro3598
@uverpro3598 3 жыл бұрын
@@saidinmas No.
@Kayla-kl1ky
@Kayla-kl1ky 5 жыл бұрын
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it"
@TobyKaparu
@TobyKaparu 10 ай бұрын
"Islamophobia" is a smoke-screen term. Having a phobia means having an irrational fear. But fearing Islam which wants 80% of humanity enslaved or exterminated is totally rational. Hence, you cannot call this a phobia.
@PhosphorusX
@PhosphorusX 8 жыл бұрын
Maryam Namazie is my heroine.
@kishanzala
@kishanzala 3 жыл бұрын
Politics uses religious differences to only create discomfort.
@edrian3485
@edrian3485 3 жыл бұрын
never said a truer words.. politics focus on more for world than afterlife thats why they willingly to do anything to get everything in the world before dying..
@Wu-Li
@Wu-Li Жыл бұрын
They'd use anything to get into power
@virendraSingh-je3sx
@virendraSingh-je3sx 4 жыл бұрын
Why no freedom of expression in Islam and why Islam is compatible with secularism and democracy.
@ThirstyTHOR
@ThirstyTHOR 4 жыл бұрын
It's incompatible.
@harminderthandi5954
@harminderthandi5954 4 жыл бұрын
what? in islam words like freedom and do not even exist.
@harminderthandi5954
@harminderthandi5954 4 жыл бұрын
@@SMShah-nc6rv only anyone of these 180 karore ppl got any brain then they can verify, Muslims got kuran and alah, so they they don't need brain, alah have given to them all the instructions in the kuran.
@harminderthandi5954
@harminderthandi5954 4 жыл бұрын
@@SMShah-nc6rv kuran only religious book o have not read, i have learned a lot about kuran by observing how Muslims behaviour around the world, alah is biggest dictator on the planets, i have a glass of water in front of me,. get alah to drink this glass of water, i promise to change my religion and become a devoted Muslim right now, put up or shut up.
@harminderthandi5954
@harminderthandi5954 4 жыл бұрын
@@SMShah-nc6rv your alah have declared that im a kafir, according kuran i have to be converted by persuasion, by threats if i was living few hundred years back in history my head would have been chopped of me being a free thinking person, tell me who were your ancestors before they converted in to islam?
@sweetelle2196
@sweetelle2196 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly , instead of making his point he just attacks her. How about do your own research mate and make some valid points, what a waste of time
@craigg5051
@craigg5051 4 жыл бұрын
This was interesting... I learned a few things which is the idea of a debate. They each had some weak points and some good points. The personal jabs at each other took away from the quality. The moderator did a great job of keeping it civil and ensuring the audience followed the rules of the debate too. We need more of this respectful debate so that some listening is done too. A hot topic indeed.
@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR
@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR 3 жыл бұрын
The argument she presented has no foundation and at best apocryphal.
@negao360
@negao360 3 жыл бұрын
@@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR elaborate
@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR
@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR 3 жыл бұрын
@@negao360 Ask specific questions and I will do my best. Identify yourself as I do, it helps mankind to know who they talk, write and argue with. So please elaborate on your elaborate and be specific.
@tomolo2619
@tomolo2619 2 жыл бұрын
***////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////**** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** ***/////////////////are all prophets according to the Quran/////////////////***
@shazimkhan4825
@shazimkhan4825 2 жыл бұрын
@@negao360 well for one she has no understanding about shariah! she doesn't understand what Islam is and who Muslims are - Her understanding of shariah is so wrong its funny!
@MaheshCharan001
@MaheshCharan001 3 жыл бұрын
Emancipate our self from mental slavery, None but ourself can free our mind. - Bob Marley
@EllasPOSEiDON
@EllasPOSEiDON 3 жыл бұрын
This is not fair because BM also was a kinda brainwashed person, so became rastafarian (sort of christian). Another fairy tail.
@hashir2737
@hashir2737 3 жыл бұрын
who is bob marley?
@medicalmafia2258
@medicalmafia2258 3 жыл бұрын
This song of Freedom...
@achmedwilders-baudet7006
@achmedwilders-baudet7006 3 жыл бұрын
Taking a little part of something, whether it's from a song or from a religion, to justify your own small mindedness and to trick other people into liking you.. I see a lot of that nowadays.
@BabahajaTsaragi
@BabahajaTsaragi 3 жыл бұрын
You are not the reference to the authority of Islam
@debiprashad5553
@debiprashad5553 4 жыл бұрын
Europe people need to study Quran and hadis only that can be able to understand how much dangerous instructions are given there,....
@danhub2700
@danhub2700 4 жыл бұрын
Dangerous and backward anyone believing it is giving up there own intelligence :/
@Potjenjks2988
@Potjenjks2988 4 жыл бұрын
Debi Prashad I won’t read a book of which I know for a fact is filled with hate against all that isn’t islamic.
@60toodles
@60toodles 4 жыл бұрын
There aren't enough showers i could take afterwards to feel clean again. no thanks
@debiprashad5553
@debiprashad5553 4 жыл бұрын
Mr topple if u do not know properly what is the main aim of Islam in Europe so how u can protest them that can be able to decive u very easily,
@richardpucci6771
@richardpucci6771 4 жыл бұрын
yes Debi, I'm reading the Quran now, too often I see "kill the infidel"...and wait till you have greater numbers, then assert Islam"...scary
@yasirshar8221
@yasirshar8221 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and interesting debate and i appreciate to Lady she is leading very well
@cartooncreat6929
@cartooncreat6929 4 жыл бұрын
Best example in india kashmir pandit
@shaguftahamid6877
@shaguftahamid6877 4 жыл бұрын
cartoon creat ❤️❤️❤️www.alislam.org/
@jesseriker260
@jesseriker260 2 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone in their right mind want to be a Muslim anyway? I don't get it????
@soongsimon567
@soongsimon567 2 жыл бұрын
Muslims are mostly born into it. People who converted to Islam either believe in the Quran or are forced into it with brainwashing or marriage. Personally if everything is depicted as the same in the Quran and is reflected in any Muslims dominated countries or societies, the majority of the people could be Muslims. But no its quite the opposite, Islam and Muslims are two entirely different things as to what the Quran teaches and what these 'Muslims' practices.
@basicallymussy553
@basicallymussy553 4 ай бұрын
You know how to get it ? Learning .. cures all curiosity and ( they are others ) mentality .. read the Quran listen to stories of the prophet for the sake of learning only and see where it goes
@glitteryroses
@glitteryroses 3 ай бұрын
It's why they get indoctrinated from childhood. Have you ever seen them chanting in Madrassa? You wouldn't even ask that question. It's like the prime example of indoctrination. And being that it starts from childhood, it becomes so ingrained the host of them can't see anything beyond it. Additionally, a manipulative touch is added with the idea of "Islam demands the questioning of everything" when the questioning involved here, is always walled within the crux of Islam and its provisions. Anyone questioning anything outside the same, is subject to the consequences that Ms. Maryam exemplified. Easiest example I can remember, there's a DW documentary on Iran... There's a lady "teaching" some teenagers on Islamic Principles and asking them to question whether Allah would like action X. (That's what the questioning is always about... Whether Allah will like this and that. Don't you forget that the reference for Alla's preferences are the Qur'an... So it's just an ouroborous.) She says... "Doctors say that wrists are seducive to men... Would Allah likethat?" The kids say "no," of course. Because that's what the Qur'an says: they should only dress to please him. Which means dressing "modestly" (a term that extends the full spectrum of burkas to just complete skin coverings like Dubai women.) So of course, now they'll be covering their wrists forever because some imaginary doctors deem them seductive. (Your guess is as good as mine. If the so-called doctors exist, they're male, Islamist perverts) I am in a medical degree and have never heard anything about wrists being seductive. It's comical at best, and simply manipulative and brainwashing at worst. That's how you become Muslim. It's consistent indoctrination from the minute you can tell a cup from a shoe and speak a few words. Plus constantly being fed the idea that kafirs/nonMuslims are lost and bad, and YOU happen to be in luck to be following the right path. A few come to their senses though, eventually. I have three ex-Muslim atheist friends, two male and about 25 years, one older, almost 30. Though you have to appreciate the mental Fortitude it must take to snap out of all the brainwashing anf intense fearmongering.
@glitteryroses
@glitteryroses 3 ай бұрын
On the other hand, I have another friend who converted to Islam in adulthood (21 years) in a seemingly Traumatic Maladaptive Response. She was in an all Catholic highschool and got massively bullied for having no religion. She wasn't Christian, neither was she atheist or agnostic because her mother simply didn't care about religion. She was into Astrology later on... Her mom was very abusive and she went to love with her Muslim dad who was very nice to her. In her head, this equated kindness with Islam, due to the cruelty of her mom. She became Islam as a result. BUT, she couldn't bear it for even 2 months because she was constantly being haggled to stop Astrology (which she really loved... I don't believe in it but I understood hoe much it meant to her. She would go to Astrology lectures and stuff to actually learn more...) They wanted her to cover up, to be subservient to her stepbrothers, to be silent while men talked... She kept telling me how miserable she was... But stuck it through until she got a job... Then left Islam. I think she wasn't prepared for what it was, and the juxtaposition between her cruel non-religious mother, against her kind Muslim father, fuelled by Christian bullying made her equate Islam with kindness... Only to realise it was just a maladaptive response and kindness can be found in many places that don't come with all these repressivez unnecessary strings attached. My two pence!😂
@atulanand7815
@atulanand7815 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh, the first guy's question was not answered by either of them. The whole session felt more like personal attack on each other.
@RKthruthelens
@RKthruthelens 3 жыл бұрын
Beheading is not being honest.
@squaredog6588
@squaredog6588 3 жыл бұрын
@@RKthruthelens that’s weird, I didn’t see any beheadings in this video
@ashirgujjar4092
@ashirgujjar4092 3 жыл бұрын
@Felsimore Gumtang And what about who Killed 20 million people around the world? America?
@Un11-v5e
@Un11-v5e 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashirgujjar4092 You are free to say Christianity was hidden power to destroy the peace they are free to act like sinner theirs beliefs all are sinners accept the sin then what is need to do for good deeds the loss of humanity around the world the experiment of arms in nagasaki hirosima but not in Christian country
@negao360
@negao360 3 жыл бұрын
@@Un11-v5e what?
@Ange0967
@Ange0967 Жыл бұрын
The peaceful Muslims are the non practicing ones.
@kimtata9675
@kimtata9675 5 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that I'm Christian 😊
@gulkhan-dg3do
@gulkhan-dg3do 5 жыл бұрын
I’m happy for you if you follow real Christianity the first scripture then I’m proud of you. Because Old Testaments said Jesus is the prophet and believe in one God only.
@reformedcatholic457
@reformedcatholic457 5 жыл бұрын
@@gulkhan-dg3do Old Testament says Jesus is God Psalm 2, Daniel 7:13-15 that is real Christianity. Because Jesus and the Apostles quoted the Old Testament many times showing they werent making things up but it was taught before Jesus came.
@rak7968
@rak7968 5 жыл бұрын
Biblical Christianity no where in the Bible is there a belief in the trinity that Christians belief. This was a development doctrine made by the church in the 4th century. Jesus was just a prophet and the father is the ONLY true god confirmed in John 17:3. Unfortunately today Christians have diverted from Jesus true teachings and are followers of Paul
@reformedcatholic457
@reformedcatholic457 5 жыл бұрын
@@rak7968 You know I can give you quotes by Christians who knew the Apostles who taught the Trinity who lived around 100 AD BEFORE 4th century? I will give you passages from Scripture on the teaching of the Trinity.
@AftabAlam-if7xd
@AftabAlam-if7xd 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Muslim and I'm better Christian than you... I'm following Christianity and my master my messenger of Almighty GoD better then you and I'm so happy...
@raviofnewyork
@raviofnewyork 5 жыл бұрын
I will consider this man a 'bully'.
@ferasehsouna148
@ferasehsouna148 5 жыл бұрын
So I think the definition of bully in your mind is : a person who tells facts ( facts don't care about your feelings)
@jamesreilly5515
@jamesreilly5515 5 жыл бұрын
He stated if you don't agree with Islam,dont mention it, you criticize islam dont speak about it,where in Islam is freedom of speech
@mariavenchxo6330
@mariavenchxo6330 5 жыл бұрын
Stop with the misinterpretation he literally talked about it in the video
@habib2308
@habib2308 5 жыл бұрын
James Reilly We do not speak however we want in Islam . We have laws and rules. Modesty and class.However, if you chose not to follow them , it’s your problem. we do not believe everyone came on this earth to start speaking anyhow they want(this is not democracy). People had free speech that’s how the message of Jesus got tempered with and Christianity came to be. Filled with lots of errors and bunch of human ideas people thought will be good as a religion . Immensely Changing the teachings and the words of Jesus. Jesus doesn’t even know what a church is. Holy communion. The music in churches. All of that came after Jesus departure. So basically, the Christianity we came to know now is a man made (free speech ) religion . In Islam , All of the prophets spoke for their people including Jesus and The Prophet Muhammad (sws) spoke for his nation .He then he didn’t speak out because he had free speech. Revelation was happening through him, he was being recited to the book Directly from Angel Gabriel and he was immediately reciting it out.
@anzhelikanadaraya1367
@anzhelikanadaraya1367 5 жыл бұрын
so do I, he is upolite and has no logic at all
@Yarivperelmuter
@Yarivperelmuter Жыл бұрын
Mr Islam Defender is losing in front of a coherent and an articulate eloquent woman. His backward mentality just doesn't let him grasp her free thinking and valuable and valid points .
@Aristotelezz
@Aristotelezz 8 жыл бұрын
Tariq Ramadan blames the non-Muslims for not understanding Islam. Fact is that the Muslims themself are the ones with the least understanding of Islam. They are split up in hundreds of sects who often have so much differences that see eachother as unbelievers and murder eachother because of that. So the misunderstanders of Islam are the believers themself. And if they dont understand it, why should others, and why should we listen to Tariq Ramadan who only can give a private meaning?
@fabulousinflorida
@fabulousinflorida 8 жыл бұрын
You know that's actually one of the best comments I've ever read on the complexity of understanding Islam. You're so right. If Muslims can't agree on how to live under Islam the "right" way and condemn each other for their views on the religion, how are the rest of us supposed to understand it. Thank you, I will use this argument next time I find myself in a debate about Islam.
@Aristotelezz
@Aristotelezz 8 жыл бұрын
+JandCStevens Maybe this can help you to: The Quran repeatedly claims to be a “clear book” (5.15) “easy to understand” (44.58 , 54.22 , 54.32, 54.40) “explained in detail” (6.114), “conveyed clearly”, (5.16, 10.15) and with “no doubt” in it (2.1). But nevertheless there are many bloody sectarian wars among Muslims going on. All because of disputes about the clear book. Basically the Muslims themself prove these verses wrong!
@Tyrionhessen
@Tyrionhessen 8 жыл бұрын
+Aristotelezz tell me who isn't split, why do you have right wing or left wing, why do you have christian and chatholics why do you have protestant and atheist, your argument is that islam should be only 1 sect? well guess what they don't have it since they lost the ottoman empire, since then had to accept artificial borders(the brits bribed some to rebel), nationalism, and the first world repeating the same wars in those same land and destabalizing with constant regime change. Today you dont have 1 islam but many different islams unless all of these muslims unite. The more you stigmatise them, the more they will get united, what goes around comes around. Instead try maybe to live in peace for the greater good of the humanity, but no, you just a selfish greedy , bastard i wish you would born 100 years ago and live the misery of our grand fathers, today we could achieve so much if we worked together instead of hating each other, and don't blame the muslims because i'm sick of seen uneducated ladz yelling the same sentences about muslim people, these people they are more humble then you, more kind then you,more modest then you and you generalize everyone like a baby
@Aristotelezz
@Aristotelezz 8 жыл бұрын
+TheCrowdsOpinion There is not one religion where it's members brags so much about, they say Islam is the only religion, all others are false. But indeed like all other religions Islam is split up in many sects who often make war about it. On that level there is nothing special about Islam. But they have according to their believes very little reason to be split up. The quran repeatedly claims to be a “clear book” (5.15) “easy to understand” (44.58 , 54.22 , 54.32, 54.40) “explained in detail” (6.114), “conveyed clearly”, (5.16, 10.15) and with “no doubt” in it (2.1). You said: "you generalize everyone like a baby". The quran constantly speaks about the Christians, the Jews, the unbelievers, the polytheists. This is a generalisation, they are all the same, and there is not a compliment given. This is the way Muslims are schooled. But in return, if you talk about the Muslims, than you must realise there is no such thing as the Muslim. They are all different. The best way to show how rotten the message of the quran is, is to talk in a quranic way about Muslims. People who normally keep quiet angry stand up in defence of the Muslims, or some Muslims.
@Tyrionhessen
@Tyrionhessen 8 жыл бұрын
Firstly , every single religion claims to be the truth, you might only hear more about muslims because they are active in social media and youtube and so, if you go in africa you have those missionary claiming that they have the only true religion etc, so please stop your ABSURD FALLACY, everyone believes that his set of believe are the true on, but the difference is that we must be ale to listen to each other and make our points why we are different at thats all, respect the person. Then you cite some reference from quran, but you don't add any context, any point of view, any understanding, you just read and traduce it in english that's all you did, and then you claim that muslims have to take the quran word for word, this isn't the case, you have to understand the context and the times we live in, of course islam needs to make certain points clear, as the one for apostasie, most muslim are against the death penalty in that case, but this is something the muslim community has to speak up against, it takes time and eventually we get there. The quran does speak about other faiths too, and it DOES compliment them,muslims consider jesus as a prophet, david,abraham,etc it compliments those who did the right things it promotes multi culturalism and tolerance towards other faith, unless you break the muslim pact, you keep making stufff up the hole time, STOP GENERALIZING Terrorist with Muslims, you nutty, should I blame every atheist because some of them keep attacking muslim people(physically) no, do I have to blame all jews because of the atrocities they comit in palestine? no, your way of thinking is very short sighted, have a bigger picture of a world where people live in peace regardlesss of their faith and this is what we must work for, but your solution is the easy one wish will only make the future more uncertain to stage war against islam because of your bigot ideas, no more point tlking to you if you quote every single time some verse and take it literate word for word, because this just proves that you know 0 about islam
@Empiezaelllanto
@Empiezaelllanto 10 ай бұрын
A live face-to-face debate is always good to watch, both educational and entertaining. Probably the only thing missing was no final vote on a winner. Would be really precious if they could repeat it now, after 7 October 2023 (if that's at all possible if one is under investigation on rape charges).
@jennifer97363
@jennifer97363 4 жыл бұрын
He tried to diminish Maryam’s excellent points with the typical patriarchal ‘woman- emotional’- because he was irritated.
@precluderblogg9746
@precluderblogg9746 4 жыл бұрын
I generally don't sympathize with feminists but she is a genuine one who cares about the sufferings of fellow Muslim women. That guy is an Islamic apologist.
@christinestanding
@christinestanding 4 жыл бұрын
@jax demax EXACTLY ! typical projective identification.
@GenesisRevelationJESUSCHRIST
@GenesisRevelationJESUSCHRIST 4 жыл бұрын
Good job lady👍👍👍 But I disagree with you about open borders. Just look at European countries with open borders.
@ssam7384
@ssam7384 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@krislove1167
@krislove1167 5 жыл бұрын
Maryam- Well done!
@MAX-TECH-INC
@MAX-TECH-INC 3 жыл бұрын
She made a good point about being able to mock Christianity liberally and not Jewish or Islam.
@PlanB52
@PlanB52 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know how many Jews in Hollywood mocked Judaism? In Israel we have a tv serious called "The Jews are coming" - Mocked everything in Judaism! As a Jewish guy, its fine with me. Religion needs to care about its people and those don't believe in that religion. Definitely not harm anyone physically!
@alnotbiggaytho7124
@alnotbiggaytho7124 4 жыл бұрын
0:45 if Saudi Arabia and Egypt want you away, you're probably doing something very right
@shaguftahamid6877
@shaguftahamid6877 4 жыл бұрын
Alperen 0485 ❤️❤️❤️www.alislam.org/
@atottotbaba604
@atottotbaba604 4 жыл бұрын
??
@bus-_k4623
@bus-_k4623 3 жыл бұрын
No
@lightofshira
@lightofshira 3 жыл бұрын
if you steal, kill or do other kind of crime you will be banned from arabia. so i think u are just dumb and a criminal who thinks this kind of crimes are right. so do your research or shut up you internet warrior.
@T-19-
@T-19- Жыл бұрын
Not at all. It’s something called khurooj.
@AJAYKUMAR-ni1vt
@AJAYKUMAR-ni1vt 4 жыл бұрын
Islamophobia is very much justified when we look at the history.
@shukeelc5177
@shukeelc5177 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need to look into history to criticise and expose Hindu idolatry. You can simply look at India today and look at what the Hindu Supremacists are doing in Islam today to Indian Muslims, Christians, and other minorities including so called lower caste Hindus who are treated like animals by members of their Hindu
@irfanmohammed4011
@irfanmohammed4011 4 жыл бұрын
Another racist asshole...!!!
@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY
@BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY 4 жыл бұрын
For example, when Muslims ruled Hindustan for 1,000 years! You, damn ungrateful racist when ISLAM civilized Hindustan!
@morbidgirl6808
@morbidgirl6808 4 жыл бұрын
Christianity is the most criticised religion in the world. Yet, Christians are very tolerant about it. Muslims? Very intolerant.
@dg2103
@dg2103 8 жыл бұрын
Why do you label yourself an ex-muslim? What a ridiculous question. It's for the same (or at least similar) reasons that trans people label themselves trans, or people who are ex-army are often given the title of veteran. It's because these changes have had major influence on their life and it gives you an insight how/why their insight has changed. Another reason is that certain minorities are often stigmatised (gay people, trans people, or in this case ex-muslims) and so to speak out and to be counted for helps to remove stigmas and promote acceptance. That's why people should be applauding for coming as gay/ex-muslim, it takes courage and in the long it helps promote acceptance of gay/ex-muslim people.
@Mohamed-bm6yk
@Mohamed-bm6yk 2 ай бұрын
I dont like terms like islamophobia and antisemtism its all a non abstract victmhood concepts This man is the best teacher in the world
@Lionoftruth7
@Lionoftruth7 3 жыл бұрын
Go to Europe have 10 kids each and not follow their laws isn’t a civilised way to settle down . Is it ?
@fbbinoire201
@fbbinoire201 3 жыл бұрын
Go to Middle East bomb them with all kind of weapons , steal their oil , gold and other resources isn't a civilised way to settle down.Is it?
@vasudevsarvam6912
@vasudevsarvam6912 2 жыл бұрын
@@fbbinoire201 Peacefuls be like:
@fbbinoire201
@fbbinoire201 2 жыл бұрын
@The young G you dont even know to read properly , when i said settle? go back to school little kid
@fbbinoire201
@fbbinoire201 2 жыл бұрын
@The young G cry again
@kandaharanar2091
@kandaharanar2091 3 жыл бұрын
Love this conversation one of the best 🦁🦁🦁🦁💪💪💪💪💪🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🦦🦦🦦🦦🦦
@josephbroemeling1946
@josephbroemeling1946 2 жыл бұрын
I liked it to some degree, but I disliked how he was always attacking her instead of answering the question, which just went to show me he's wrong since when you don't have a good defense the next best thing to do is demonize your opponent instead of defending your position.
@harisahmad427
@harisahmad427 2 жыл бұрын
he didn't attack her lol, he had to aim the discussion at her because she quoted his words wrongly.
@rsahi1587
@rsahi1587 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful and important debate. I fully agree with the Lady debater. Oxford Union work is badly needed in today's controversial world.
@muhammadkhan-wu6mb
@muhammadkhan-wu6mb 2 жыл бұрын
One should never insult others. As a result he can react more severely .And then situation will be aggravated. Never play with the emotions of others.I think that man was more reasonable as compared to lady.
@levi_2134
@levi_2134 2 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadkhan-wu6mb both are right but slightly with the man
@ryanmarlin2974
@ryanmarlin2974 Жыл бұрын
@@levi_2134 the man is entirely right
@satrioem6162
@satrioem6162 Жыл бұрын
@@muhammadkhan-wu6mb he can react more severly? Is that islam teach you?
@sidy6526
@sidy6526 Жыл бұрын
@@muhammadkhan-wu6mb We never insult you personally, we criticism the ideology of extremism. If you think that criticising @islam is personal attack on you, then that's your issue and it should be changed if you are living in a non islamic country.
@haroldchapman7238
@haroldchapman7238 7 жыл бұрын
Why was Prof Ramadan allowed to subvert the clearly defined (1:30) structure of this debate, by directly asking questions of the other speaker ?
@Taryuman
@Taryuman 5 жыл бұрын
Cus he's a cool dude, unlike you . He completely and utterly destroyed her with that chess debate kung fu move while subverting your sacred british structure of debate with a real conversation. She made a fool of her cowardly self choosing not to answer such an incredibly direct question hoping it will just go away, a master stroke indeed.
@Taryuman
@Taryuman 5 жыл бұрын
@Catherine Stonestreet Give us an example then. Just asserting shit without reason is no argument.
@hustler212
@hustler212 3 жыл бұрын
I thought British were clever...but then they accepted islamists in their country...and Samuel was killed...
@ALLAHISENOUGHFORPALASTINE
@ALLAHISENOUGHFORPALASTINE 3 жыл бұрын
British who converted to Islam are they not the owners of Europe
@SakibAhmed-ub3ct
@SakibAhmed-ub3ct 3 жыл бұрын
France is not Britain 😂😂. That was what Tariq was saying - don't act upon your ignorance. That's precisely what you did 😂
@hustler212
@hustler212 3 жыл бұрын
@@SakibAhmed-ub3ct hey... trying to capture silly nuances...that won't work...no one buys that
@themusicgaragetmg2330
@themusicgaragetmg2330 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, after so long, this vid is still drawing new audiences
@valroniclehre193
@valroniclehre193 Жыл бұрын
Thats because religious denial is an undyingbeast.
@kavitaadhikari7595
@kavitaadhikari7595 3 жыл бұрын
There are 57 Islamic country in the world,rest are secular. That's it.....
@avgnoob4679
@avgnoob4679 3 жыл бұрын
Oh right you seem to forget about Israel also most Muslim countries only say they are Islamic but operate like a secular nation
@kavitaadhikari7595
@kavitaadhikari7595 3 жыл бұрын
@@avgnoob4679WHOSE ARE THESE COUNTRIES & WHY HAVE THESE COUNTRIES DECLARED THEMSELVES islamic? The reality is that they have declared islam as their state religion.
@avgnoob4679
@avgnoob4679 3 жыл бұрын
@@kavitaadhikari7595 ok but they don’t rule with Islamic law also Islamic law isn’t what ISIS does it’s debated on Islamic law taxes non-Muslims lower than Muslims because we pay a religious tax which we don’t expect non Muslims to pay because they don’t believe in our religion Also Islamic law lets non Muslims communities govern their self with their own law And I repeat no country on earth as actually put in place Islamic law so relax dude
@kavitaadhikari7595
@kavitaadhikari7595 3 жыл бұрын
@@avgnoob4679 What is the need of state religion? It's simple that other people become secondary city zen...
@avgnoob4679
@avgnoob4679 3 жыл бұрын
@@kavitaadhikari7595 yeah that’s what happens in Jewish states like Israel and old Christian countries like Spain But in Islam it’s different we are equal in everything with non Muslims. For example Muslims pay more taxes than non Muslims because of our religious tax called Zakat while non Muslims pay Jizya which is lower than Zakat tax And Jizya can’t be taken from non Muslims if they are not given full protection and welfare like Muslims would be given Not to mention non Muslims aren’t obligated to join the army in times of war but they will be protected as citizens of the country same as Muslims And like I said before non Muslims communities are allowed to rule by their own laws in their communities. They aren’t second class citizens in any way shape or form
@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv
@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv 5 жыл бұрын
As an Atheist,i think its time for a nice decent Crusade 2.0.
@FirozKhan-tl5os
@FirozKhan-tl5os 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha lol 😂😁
@lunchwagondavis9983
@lunchwagondavis9983 5 жыл бұрын
How atheistic of you to see the value in a thing like the Crusades.
@منتصبالقامةأمشي-ص7ت
@منتصبالقامةأمشي-ص7ت 5 жыл бұрын
Lunchwagon Davis in many ways, Christianity has become a symbol of Europe rather than a creed. But it’s unacceptable to say they’re against non-Europeans.
@lunchwagondavis9983
@lunchwagondavis9983 5 жыл бұрын
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv OK, dude, you hate Muslims! You hate 'em so bad you start to vibrate, your face turns red, and your voice gets so high-pitched you sound like a yipping Chihuahua! Got it. Thanks for sharing.
@lunchwagondavis9983
@lunchwagondavis9983 5 жыл бұрын
@@danieljoseph6404 You're so sure you blurt nonsensical shit like this, i guess. Crusades were all launched FROM Europe to attack Muslims in their lands -- where Crusaders generally got disemboweled if they didn't turn back home in time.
@agentbrody7
@agentbrody7 3 жыл бұрын
Dont you get enough funding from the school or wherever? Jesus Christ, the ads!
@Welzy79
@Welzy79 3 жыл бұрын
They are halal ads. Ads will fund future terror attacks
@at6686
@at6686 3 жыл бұрын
Be strong my son. it’s but the devil tempting you.
@zuhaibk1397
@zuhaibk1397 3 жыл бұрын
Try "KZbin Vanced"
@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR
@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR 3 жыл бұрын
His name was never Jesus and he was never crucified (dead on the cross as a God). Christ is a borrowed word from the Greek Christos. get these facts right and all will come good.
@stevenmartin5888
@stevenmartin5888 3 жыл бұрын
Watch on a mobile. Slide the progress bar to the end. Click replay. Boom - no ads 👍
@RahulKumar-yu8jm
@RahulKumar-yu8jm 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see this type of debate in a islamic majority country.
@bladewed
@bladewed 8 жыл бұрын
Tariq Ramadan is only outdone by Reza Aslan... when it comes to denying the direct link between Islam and the disgusting things that happen as a result of it.
@haatpraat530
@haatpraat530 7 жыл бұрын
2017.04.17 France, Paris, Islamist murders cop & shoots 2 others. 2017.04.08 Russia, Malgobek (Russian cops get machine gunned down by Islamist) 2017.04.07 Sweden, Stockholm (Islamist ploughs into a shop killing 4) 2017.04.04 Russia, Astrakhan (Islamist shoots 2 cops) 2017.04.04 France, Paris (Islamist throws Jewish lady to her death from apartment) 2017.04.03 Russia, St. Petersburg (Islamist(s) bombs train) 2017.03.22 England, London (Islamist runs down 5, stabs a cop to death) 2017.03.17 France, Paris (Islamist slits father & son's throat) 2017.02.03 France, Paris (Machete wielding Islamist attacks cops at Louvre) 2017.01.11 Germany, Oberhausen ('Allah' screaming Islamist stabs woman in shop) 2016.12.29 Austria, Voecklamarkt (Woman stabbed while reading a Bible) 2016.12.19 Germany, Berlin (Many killed by Islamist with truck at Christmas market) 2016.10.16 Germany, Hamburg (Kids stabbed by Islamist while chilling by a river) 2016.10.05 Belgium, Brussels (Islamist stabs 2 cops) 2016.09.26 Russia, Kara-Tyube (Islamist stabs another Islamist to death..big deal?) 2016.09.08 France, Boussy-Saint-Antoine (Islamist woman stabs cop) 2016.09.07 Belgium, Brussels (Islamist wields machete at cops) 2016.09.03 France, Belfort (Author almost beaten to death by Islamist) 2016.09.02 France, Vincennes (Yet another Islamist stabs a cop) 2016.08.31 Denmark, Christiania (2 cops shot by Islamist) 2016.08.30 France, Toulouse (Cop stabbed by Islamist) 2016.08.27 Germany, Oberhausen (Islamist stabs couple during their picnic) 2016.08.19 France, Strasbourg (Jewish Rabbi stabbed by Islamist) 2016.08.06 Belgium, Charleroi ('Allah' screaming Islamist stabs 2 cops) 2016.08.03 England, London (Islamist stabs woman to death while praising 'Allah') 2016.07.26 France, Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray (Islamist slit throat of Catholic priest) 2016.07.24 Germany, Ansbach (Islamist denotates nail bomb outside winebar) 2016.07.19 France, Garda-Colombe (Mum, kids stabbed by Islamist during breakfast) 2016.07.18 Germany, Wuerzburg (Axe wielding Islamist hacks fellow train riders) 2016.07.14 France, Nice (Bastille Day trunk driver, 84 dead, many more mutilated ) 2016.06.14 Belgium, Etterbeek (Gay guy stabbed by Islamists) 2016.06.13 France, Magnanville ('Allah' screaming Islamist stabs couple) 2016.05.27 France, Saint Julien du Puy (Islamist stabs jogging cop) 2016.05.20 England, London (Islamist stabs 4 women, while screaming 'Allah') 2016.05.19 Germany, Baden-Württemberg (Pensioner stabbed to death by Islamist) 2016.05.10 Germany, Grafing (Knife wielding Islamist hacks fellow train travellers) 2016.04.17 England, Manchester (Care worker stabbed by Islamist) 2016.04.16 Germany, Essen (Islamist bomb Sikh temple) 2016.03.24 Scotland, Glasgow (Ahmadi moslem stabbed to death by Sunni) 2016.03.22 Belgium, Brussels (Airport Bombs) 2016.02.29 Russia, Moscow (Female Islamist ** BEHEADS A CHILD! **) 2016.02.26 Germany, Hanover (Gang of Islamists beat another Islamist to death...yawn) 2016.02.18 England,Rochdale (Set of Islamists beat another Islamist to death..oh really?) 2016.01.27 Sweden, Tanum (Man stabbed to death by Islamist work colleague) 2016.01.11 France, Marseille (Teacher attacked with machete by Islamist) 2016.01.01 France, Valence (2 injured while Islamist drives into them with car) 2016.01.01 France, Valence (2 injured while Islamist drives into them with car)
@ballayran9321
@ballayran9321 3 жыл бұрын
They say that EU and UK don't like Islam, but please check the Muslim percentage in the population of those countries, it is huge.
@zanzibarspice8686
@zanzibarspice8686 3 жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter its percentage what matters how they are treated
@ballayran9321
@ballayran9321 3 жыл бұрын
@@zanzibarspice8686 then why they accept that much muslim people to their countries? Soon, EU and UK have more muslims than christian😅 why do they want this?
@zanzibarspice8686
@zanzibarspice8686 3 жыл бұрын
Islam is the true religion and no one can change the truth sinve it prevail..... UK and Americans are humans since one may have a will but the Authorities may not like the act of reverting but u cannot force people but I may askt who Attack Muslims in Middle east?
@Alphae21
@Alphae21 3 жыл бұрын
@@zanzibarspice8686 islam is lie?
@Nasir1969
@Nasir1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alphae21 ..simply you are the biggest liar....so whatever you says is definitely a lie.
@abbadanwali1173
@abbadanwali1173 3 жыл бұрын
This type of FORUM is a welcome decision to enlighten the public on their religions. I thank Allah SWT for giving us this chance to understand the right thing to follow and the wrong thing to throw away.
@zalpherjorges7757
@zalpherjorges7757 3 жыл бұрын
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@zalpherjorges7757
@zalpherjorges7757 3 жыл бұрын
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@xenzorygames4116
@xenzorygames4116 3 жыл бұрын
the exactly the reason why your religion is not safe for other religions... because you guys will go to the extreme to even behead people.
@xenzorygames4116
@xenzorygames4116 3 жыл бұрын
don't act as if you are victims, most of the part of History your religion was always the perpetrator.
@ShanKhan-cj7nv
@ShanKhan-cj7nv 3 жыл бұрын
So when are you throwing away Islam?
@anoopvyas5828
@anoopvyas5828 3 жыл бұрын
No matter what is said by someone about any religion. Everyone believes what one sees around the world. People should practice what they preach. One should show preaching in action not in words... Truth always prevails...
@inesinesi7399
@inesinesi7399 3 жыл бұрын
But there IS ONE TRUTH
@nathanaelking496
@nathanaelking496 3 жыл бұрын
Truth is very fluid in nature. You can make a lie become truth if you repeat it enough. It is the reason religious people rant all the time.
@thenotoriousm0e852
@thenotoriousm0e852 3 жыл бұрын
You know what goes around from media and your Anti-Muslim channels that give you a certain perspective. Travel to those countries, speak to the people and you'll see that the world isn't really that black and yellow
@elaaa099
@elaaa099 3 жыл бұрын
People in USA ore europe think muslims live to become terroriste. NO PEOPLE we have the same normal life as the world. But no when it cames to islam they all say bad things, and one think i have nothing with our comment but if a persone who is bad and has a religion being muslim, christian ore other religion am i suposed to hate every one who is of that religion? No
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 3 жыл бұрын
**////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////*** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- **"YHWH SAVES "* Elijah means------------- --------------**" MY GOD IS YHWH"** John means ----------------------------**" YHWH has been gracious""** Zakariya means -----------------------**""YHWH has remembered""** are all prophets according to the Quran
@jeffalexander1104
@jeffalexander1104 8 жыл бұрын
If Ramadan had been better prepared and stopped attacking Maryam he might of been able to stick to the question and also meet the time limits imposed. Namazie answered the questions posed clearly and rationally. Ramadan tried to use double speak to obfuscate the questions. Glad I never had a professor like him in university - I would have dropped the course first week. What a disingenuous speaker.
@soundousbouzegza7075
@soundousbouzegza7075 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t need you hon in his classes. He had 30 other American universities to deal with and more open minded philosophical people. You don’t deserve to have him as a teacher
@buttofthejoke
@buttofthejoke 3 жыл бұрын
@@soundousbouzegza7075 Sadly you lost your idol after 5 women came out with accusation of rape. This guy is out there saying he can't debate with Irshad Manji because she's a woman. Of course he's sexist, but you might think that's a plus
@samayjain6409
@samayjain6409 5 жыл бұрын
United = *Heaven* Divided = *Hell* .
@aqeeladaiyanzeva2731
@aqeeladaiyanzeva2731 5 жыл бұрын
Respect everyone
@sweetmusic846
@sweetmusic846 5 жыл бұрын
@@aqeeladaiyanzeva2731no one's saying we don't respect Muslims but in London and shit they aren't integrating. And they have a deep deep hatred of Jews and we are bending over backwards to welcome them and they're crying bigotry. Plus, 9-11 would NEVER have happened without Islam
@dongkhamet1351
@dongkhamet1351 5 жыл бұрын
samay jain there is an innate division between heaven and hell. What would it be if the hosts of heaven and hell were to be united?! How can angels and demons unite ideologically or otherwise? 'Hope that helps
@rusidahzaidi9703
@rusidahzaidi9703 3 жыл бұрын
I know my right but I won't hurt my children. Simple example.
@glitteryroses
@glitteryroses 3 ай бұрын
You have no right to hurt your children. What are you blabbing about?
@portishphonic
@portishphonic 6 жыл бұрын
well I'll be damned, a public figure woman that's not an Islam apologist.
@giannigiovanni2826
@giannigiovanni2826 5 жыл бұрын
International Version Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.
@LiradeTerpsichore
@LiradeTerpsichore 4 жыл бұрын
YES!!! Exactly!. She was great
@RashidKhan-cp3ks
@RashidKhan-cp3ks 4 жыл бұрын
Very very Good news Now a days In Europe Discusse about Islam and opene debets on Islam The way of Life Ma Sha Allah Soon World's,. Humans Home to world's last corner Discusse .of The Islamic culture and . The . Way of Life .personal life Public. Life Human Life And Islamic. Political life and .Islamic Economics .and muuch more Topics. Best wisher. Of the world Human All communities Brothers And sisters. Of All. Mother And Father only One Adam . And Hawwa. .Dr.A R.khan Bharat
@petergriffiths799
@petergriffiths799 3 жыл бұрын
36 minutes in I agree all should try and respect other views. But words of criticism still don’t justify a reaction of mass murder. The two levels of action do not equate.
@ReanimaterR
@ReanimaterR 8 жыл бұрын
You debate here, the people to whom the debate matters don't care and listen to their imams. We need documentaries about critical thinking, science and all kind of religions mandatory in schools. We may hopefully raise more atheists this way or at least more moderates who do not follow blindly religious dogma.
@humanoid1960
@humanoid1960 8 жыл бұрын
+ReanimaterR , I agree with you. there should not be religious schools in the west or any country. All schools in a country should be public and free. May be there should be a subject called religions of the world where religions are studied objectively, for example: when considering hinduism....talk about why the concept of the untouchables (Dalies) is wrong... it is inhumane, organised marriages, burning of the wives with the dead husbands. In islam: The imposition of the death penalty for apostasy, homosexuality, adultery etc while paedophilia is condone. Christianity vilification of homosexuals, turning the blind on paedophilia in the church. Judaism and the abuse of Palestinia ect. All I want to say is that it is inhumane for society to encourage religious believes that insults humanity's common sense, logic and reason. We have to say loud and clear that it is not right to believe that the earth is only 6000 years old according to the abrahamic religions. that so far there is not empirical proof of any god existence...that we all first and foremost human and nobody's slaves. that we are children of the universe and that we all live in a big house called EARTH.
@fbbinoire201
@fbbinoire201 3 жыл бұрын
the biggest dogma is the atheism
@christyvarghese4744
@christyvarghese4744 2 жыл бұрын
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@JohnDoe-le3yd
@JohnDoe-le3yd 2 жыл бұрын
Lot of massive assumptions there. And a lot of dabbling about nothing. Btw, before u argue about the beliefs of Islam. Maybe actually learn what Muslims believe
@DaMaziii
@DaMaziii 2 жыл бұрын
He did not make any sense at all!!! He had nothing to offer
@leithalmeme1486
@leithalmeme1486 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I believe a random person on the internet could absolutely verbally destroy a professor in a debate.
@easyenglishmethod3602
@easyenglishmethod3602 6 жыл бұрын
There must be free of expression everywhere in the world. The woman is correct
@saamerlailnajd5561
@saamerlailnajd5561 5 жыл бұрын
If she will speak bad thing about ur queen what's ur reaction going to be !?!.
@asianbrosas3603
@asianbrosas3603 5 жыл бұрын
Saamer Lail Najd It’s her opinion, she won’t be killed like I would if I were to talk shit about the Saudi Prince, or of Allah in a Muslim state.
@saamerlailnajd5561
@saamerlailnajd5561 5 жыл бұрын
@@asianbrosas3603 from ur words I can read that u have a diluted urine in ur brain
@asianbrosas3603
@asianbrosas3603 5 жыл бұрын
Saamer Lail Najd Personally attacking me because you have n argument? No way to hide your barbaric religion?
@saamerlailnajd5561
@saamerlailnajd5561 5 жыл бұрын
@@asianbrosas3603 if ur serious to debate let,s set rules ND regulations. Don't just talked non sense
@vasudevvasudev8295
@vasudevvasudev8295 4 жыл бұрын
What about the disappearance of christians from Lebanon and Syria.
@stephenellis2866
@stephenellis2866 4 жыл бұрын
Vasudev Vasudev they don’t belong there
@coolshady5
@coolshady5 4 жыл бұрын
They are fleeing from the crumbling nation just as we did its not because of persecution dumb dumb
@mohdyunosmahmood4037
@mohdyunosmahmood4037 4 жыл бұрын
They died in the hand of ISIS ... lol creation of US
@kl6379
@kl6379 4 жыл бұрын
They are not disappeared they left
@vasudevvasudev8295
@vasudevvasudev8295 4 жыл бұрын
@@kl6379 Obviously one opts to leave when survival pron to excruciating hardships.
@yesufabdulhakim9326
@yesufabdulhakim9326 4 жыл бұрын
while no idea is sacred humans should be ………i love this woman
@anwarhussain4852
@anwarhussain4852 2 жыл бұрын
Tariq with all Respect due to You - I didn't think that ' she had contradictions '. As a matter of Fact - I feel that she " Truly Brings home a great many ' Core Important Points ' that need ' Sorely to be Addressed ' !!!!
@RobertWilliam-yu8gi
@RobertWilliam-yu8gi 8 жыл бұрын
Negative, Islam is protected from so called hate speech while Christianity isn't.
@UKgamer87
@UKgamer87 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert William Nobody including Muslims have said anything offensive towards Christians!
@RobertWilliam-yu8gi
@RobertWilliam-yu8gi 8 жыл бұрын
Uk Gamer Negative, they are brainwashed by their Quran to hate Christians and Jews. Quran Surah 5:51: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends. For further info, please go to the following link. thereligionofpeace.com/
@999TnO
@999TnO 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert William Few do. But not enough.
@Svartalfgeist
@Svartalfgeist 8 жыл бұрын
Do you see Muslims stand up for the same rights for Christians in Islamic countries?
@sitkijahja3953
@sitkijahja3953 8 жыл бұрын
Oh shut it, you got millions of Christians in Muslims countries, the world today is not cut dry like you think. it's all global all mixed..Muslims in Europe and all the way around...there is no such thing any more Christian or muslim..all share same space shhh...cherrrrr upp
@Svartalfgeist
@Svartalfgeist 8 жыл бұрын
I am not denying that fact. I was implying that Christians tend to be bullied and oppressed in Islamic countries and often have no protection at all, both physical and legal. In some countries they are not even allowed to be Christian. Can you say the same the other way around?
@theoblivionlord
@theoblivionlord 8 жыл бұрын
+Sitki Jahja Christians are persecuted in muslim countries, testube and dnews already covered this.
@mhd9166
@mhd9166 8 жыл бұрын
+The Oblivion Lord Are you sure ? before isis or after isis ??
@theoblivionlord
@theoblivionlord 8 жыл бұрын
+Mehdi El Before
@gbtusa1325
@gbtusa1325 3 жыл бұрын
Why do islamic apologists always point out short coming of other religions when asked to talk about Islam and its teachings.
@noskpain2792
@noskpain2792 3 жыл бұрын
To ignore what the real problem is in Afghanistan
@stub1256
@stub1256 3 жыл бұрын
Because they know they have problems that they cant deal with.
@roymeynell9198
@roymeynell9198 3 жыл бұрын
We in Europe do not except radicalised mentality of many who follow Islam ,millions have decided to come to Europe rather than on fifty Muslims countries ,many of us are alarmed by this religion ,we have been christian countries for more than five hundred years ,and migrates must understand when they come to our or other Christian countries they must understand ,they come here and must adhere to our culture and beliefs not the other way round .
@yousefalshaikh4683
@yousefalshaikh4683 3 жыл бұрын
muslims adhere how they can adhere and wont change their beliefs at all as that would make them change their belief systems and result to them not being muslims at all and many countries in europe are not christian countries but christian majority countries and are secular nations muslims come to live their lives not to attack other people so i do not see a reason for you to be alarmed and 99 percent of muslims do not have a radical mentality so there is no reason for your RADICAL mentality
@diliprathod49
@diliprathod49 8 жыл бұрын
Tariq Radaman blames Charlie Habdo and justifies his brutal murder and fails to explain why Islamophobia is created. Why does he, like a typical Islamist, strays from the topic and brings in Christianity and Judaism? Why to clap? it's the most wayward deliverance.
@whitexchina
@whitexchina 8 жыл бұрын
+Abdul Alan Yes, you like Muslim aplogists because you are a Muslim. Bias!
@diliprathod49
@diliprathod49 8 жыл бұрын
Straying is a desert quality.
@karinasmith2214
@karinasmith2214 8 жыл бұрын
+Dilip Rathod The Muslims always find an excuse for what they do. This idiot is telling us NOT TO PROVOKE the Muslims.... what a bastard... I can feel a threat on his words, and he is justifying the killings and atrocities
@karinasmith2214
@karinasmith2214 8 жыл бұрын
+Dilip Rathod Muslims ALWAYS justify their action. Terrorist Iman Choudary was asked more than 20 times during an interview if he condemened the blowing of the Twin Towers. The reporter wanted just a YES, or a NO. Choudary NEVER SAID EITHER
@soranokentai586
@soranokentai586 8 жыл бұрын
+Dilip Rathod i dont think he trying to justify anything he merely pointed out that if you insult or criticize the jewish religion you get a lot of backlash where as insulting islam is socially accepted in western society thats and dont forget jewish people after the holocaust have killed many in the name of isreal ,their religion and have publicly threatened the lives of people who oppose the way of life they are trying to pursue the media just doesnt show it to you and you arent informed enough to see that there are two sides to every story and that hardly is there ever just one side to blame for the injustices in the world. If you only blame one side it just so happens that you are on the other all sides are to blame maybe not equally but if you ignore the possible improvements you can make on your side then dont expect the other side to ever improve just continue blowing up the middle east and sending thousands into lives of perpetual chaos until no one on the other side is still alive.
@yakupwiragapa7865
@yakupwiragapa7865 4 жыл бұрын
The greatest man in history is Jesus. He had no servants, yet they called him master. He had no degree, yet they called him teacher. He had no medicine, yet they called him healer. He had no army, yet kings feared him. He won no military battles, yet he conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified him. He was buried in a tomb, yet he lives Today. Amen.
@salimahmed9016
@salimahmed9016 4 жыл бұрын
Taking nothing away from Jesus (pbuh), Prophet Muhammad was successful and saw his ideas take root and flourish in his own lifetime.
@icemanire5467
@icemanire5467 3 жыл бұрын
@@salimahmed9016 yeah his ideas of butchering whole tribes, slavery and taking women as concubines like at Banu Qurayza weren't great ideas I have to say.
@78asaisee
@78asaisee 3 жыл бұрын
@@icemanire5467 …islam n muhammad abolishing slavery bro. Please read the Quran with understanding. Get the real source about islam. Google Dr Sabeel Ahmed. May Allah bless you
@ayaanbhatti967
@ayaanbhatti967 3 жыл бұрын
@@icemanire5467 the tribes that he so called "massacred" attacked the muslims first and the muslims had a smaller army and they tried to take prisoners rather than kill the people of the tribe. the so called "slavery"comitted was when he bought dlaves from the cruel masters at a point where he could barely afford them and freed them right after buying them so he essentially freed them. read the story of sayidinah bilal. the so called "concubation" that he did was when he freed a slave and asked her to marry him to which she agreed. they then had a child after all of that. im literally a 14 yr old kid that can tell the truth from historical bias unlike yourself. may allah guide you to the right path
@sharletthomas3951
@sharletthomas3951 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@vikmvc2446
@vikmvc2446 2 жыл бұрын
Saying interpreting quran correctly will solve problems is BS. Quran taught to kids will lead to problems
@choppalou
@choppalou 3 жыл бұрын
Respect for that lady 👏👏👏
@thenotoriousm0e852
@thenotoriousm0e852 3 жыл бұрын
She lost though
@choppalou
@choppalou 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenotoriousm0e852 People in the West are blind and trying to be liberal and fair to everyone. Nations which were conquered by other Islamic nations or nations with a very high percentage of Muslim people know, that when the muslim Population have a certain percentage , the rest will have to change for their requirements. Look at nations like Nigeria, Ethiopia,… when Muslims have a certain they try to form the country into a religious one and are not liberal for other religions. I am talking about the religious and political Islam. There are of course many normal, not so religious Muslims which suffer also from their brothers in faith.
@amanms2542
@amanms2542 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. She could not focus her argument on the topic. She brought all the rubbish from the entire Muslim world but still failed to convince the audience.
@jocelynburrell3415
@jocelynburrell3415 3 жыл бұрын
The United Nation Must be told to read Quran it address Men not to establish Islam the Hellfire will be the dwelling place
@jocelynburrell3415
@jocelynburrell3415 3 жыл бұрын
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