Islamic Politics and the Caliphate: A Conversation with Dr. Hatem el Haj

[@enacausmembrane]

Marrakesh to Jakarta, all of it belongs to Muslims.

[@hopsie9983]

Really, lol.

[@NabilKaali]

He sais Casablanca to Jakarta. He should ve said AddarulBaidaa to Jakarta 👍

[@ahmadjuwayni6256]

It already does... we just need to help muslims act like better Muslims.. we don't need a world government which will end up being oppressive and tyrannical anyway..

[@shredx81]

@@ahmadjuwayni6256 you don’t think the Taliban and the Ayatollah are oppressive and tyrannical?

[@mdfahd24]

​@@ahmadjuwayni6256 A human doesn't dictate what should be the Socio-economic-political structure looks like.. Allâh made Khilāfah Fard ul Kifayah then it should the priority of Ummah. Period. Dont make excuses or show Nifāq to run from Islām now.

[@TN-kg2lv]

Edit: Original title was along the line of "Should Muslims re-establish the Caliphate?" Yes we should, no need to over complicate a simple topic. It's time to start discussing how to go about it.

[@Khaldunii]

Many points raised about how it is an overly simplified topic

[@heybudstfunow]

i*sis tried and see what happened to them brother ???!!

[@hopsie9983]

It's not going to happen. Individual states are never going to give up authority, too risky. Best closest approximate is something like the EU.

[@saimbhat6243]

I don't know how to respond to a perspective like that of you. You are just one step away from the guys in Toyotas roaming around streets of raqqa and at mighty and costly and der*ng*d pipe dreams, achieved not a shred of anything that can be called positive or constructive. How can you be so detached from reality? Did you just finish watching your daily dose of p*rn and now decided to give your stale takes in the internet comment sections. 50+ countries and 1/4th of earths population and we can't do anything about a minuscule place like gaza. And if such a global political entity is possible, you already have an OIC or Arab League, which is just one step away from becoming a shura to a Caliph. It is always a great thing to have iman and have faith in the power of the creator, but my dude! You can't read a surah and decide to lift a mountain on your back, lol. Or you cannot have a dua and decide to jump from a plane. Now wonder if people have a phobia about people like you. I don't disagree with the idea, I think it is a noble one. But it is the people like you, detached from reality and high on blindfolded ignorance who often get to take initiatives, constructed by your almost non-existent grey matter, that is the sorry state of the Ummah.

[@checkmate5338]

Of course that's the ideal. But how do we get there? That's what they are discussing.

[@PURPLEHUMAN-sr8io]

ONE GOD, One Messenger, One nation

[@DrJB]

One caliphate. One rule. One order. One world. One ummah. One God.

[@lchig0]

…was rarely the case for the vast majority of Muslim history.

[@shredx81]

And in the darkness bind them!

[@Amadeus-ms9lt]

What's important is the command of Allâh and following them. And yes, despite conflict, there was ALWAYS an Islamic leadership on Earth until today.

[@soroushdarvish9281]

makes zero sense and absolutely a useless fantasy.

[@lemonnade5974]

This will never happen. 2 billion muslims and one leader? Lol it's impossible. Nationalism and ethnic conflicts will always be in the way

[@fatimamuhammad156]

What is it that you don’t understand - “we should focus strengthening our relationship with Allah” what do you think the aim of living and working under Islam will achieve its part and parcel of the deen.

[@samiral-hanafii340]

At the end of the day, Dr. Hatem Al Haj made his point clear: he is content with the nation state as a concept for the Muslim world. He says so trying to wish wash his real intentions. Then he brings up arguments like having only one imam is a ijtihadi issue where you can be, as he claims, "flexible". Who decides then, if a state can be an independent state with an independent ruler? What if Iraq was split up in 3 parts with 3 rulers? Are all of them legitimate? If yes, then you accept that foreign powers determine the Muslim states ans their rulers. If no, you argument of having multiple Imams (ie rulers) is inconsistent. I would like both of you to debate somebody that is not from your stance (the so called middle). Debate Sheikh Mazin Abdul Adheem from Canada, Dr. Abu Talha Al Malkawi or any of these people. It would benefit the whole Muslim Ummah and everyone could make his own opinion afterwards. Just an idea.

[@lchig0]

The Sheikh did so here with Uthman Badr and Imam Tom - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5WugHlmp7-pgLMsi=1BhvFYiNmgE_fiNl

[@abdulnoor6995]

He's discussed this with Uthman badar

[@redbeardandfriends]

Salaam! The shaykh's strongest evidence for his position is the history of what happend in the Muslim world from the time of the death of Hassan ibn Ali, and there was no mention of Ibn Taymiyya's statement on this issue in the book entitled, "The Political thought of Ibn Taymiyya " he said," the name of the Islamic authority is not the most important thing.What is essential is"al Kitabu hadi wa Saif an Nasir" the guiding book and the helping sword! In other words the Quran and Shari'ah and the power to establish and enforce it!

[@TheUnknownMAS]

Working for returning the Khilafah Rashidah following sunnah is definitely a priority fardh and is the solution from Allah SWT.

[@heybudstfunow]

did you see what happened to i*s*i*s tho brother ??!

[@SeekeroftheHaqqq]

I am willing to join your cause, I would like to know the first strategy you have, which government do we overthrow first and replace it with whom?

[@RobertOfStAlbans_]

@@heybudstfunowWait, so ISIS was calling for a dar al islam?

[@laylaali5977]

No it’s not look the Taliban,Iran and ISIS and Muslim brotherhood all violent and corrupt

[@mizanulkarim7648]

How else are the muslims in gaza meant to get protection from their oppressors? Imam is a shield. This imam is not sinwar, Biden or Sunak. We need to strive as much as possible for this cause. The fact that over an hour to give an answer shows what they stand upon. Bring someone who opposes your views.

[@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah]

Ottomans were never a shield for Egyptians or Palestinians. They were just plunderers and destroyers though modernists and ikhwanies consider them khulafa.

[@mdfahd24]

​​@@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah Lmao, then change the Khalifāh if they implement Kufr but Zulm is not an excuse in Islām, just as you dont do in other stable systems. You consider Islām Framework based Khilāfah system to be worse than a Taghūti systems like Egypt, turkey, Saudi or other capitalist secular Jāhiliyyah. Such a shameful reasoning being a Muslim.

[@thequraninrhyme]

Perhaps the fact that every generation finds these Hadith of the end times directly relevant to their current happenings points in the directions of them being intentionally delivered or revealed in this manner to keep the fascination for the faith up and running and make it seem like an adventurous journey throughout Everyone’s life and across the generations.

[@djdjdjsksk306]

Please invite someone to the show how is competent in this field like Dr. Mohammed Malkawi or Mazin Abdul Adheem. It would be an insightful discussion for everyone.

[@Reewnat]

I am not a scholar to comment on whether they present the stronger arguments, but this talk demonstrates the importance of the learned speaking on topics like this (as opposed to laymen) because of all of the facets of this topic many of which I was unaware of.

[@syedatasneemtowhid8149]

I wish the khilafat or a leadership to return in the Islamic world as an atonement for Palestine

[@chadspinnox566]

Alhamdulillah I reached the same conclusion 15 years ago. Thank god they're openly talking about it. Especially solitary hadeeths which shouldn't be treated like quran in aqeeda. This has save me from extremism and apostasy. Alhamdulillah. When this is understood by more religious muslims and scholars teach this point we will decrease extremism of all kind. 99. 9 % of scholars won't admit or teach it to the layman be it Shia salafi sufi or whatever

[@nomaanalwi9495]

The question of when we’ll have a khilafah again is like when qiyaamah will come. And the answer is the same. What have we done to prepare for it?

[@ma5839]

There are differences. The Day is coming whether you want it or not. The khilafah will NOT come if we dont want it, which is where we are now. We have over 50 national republics and scores of monarchies. The majority accept kufr legal systems from tye West instead of Islam. Our leaders intentionally misguide us to go against the khilafah, as the Prophet (saws) warned us they would do near the last days.

[@Mohammad-Darwish]

I appreciate the discussion, they brought up good points, but what is very obvious from this discussion is the crisis of contemporary muslim intellectual capacity which offers no alternative view, they dont even define any clear criteria what makes a socio political project aligned with islamic monitheism vs what is not aligned, how do we even differentiate systems exactly, such questions are left blank or vague answers that is irrelevant to culture of modern knowledge. They are not able to see the link between the logic and metaphycs on one hand and socio-political constructs, nor can they see the link between tawheed on one hand and logic and metaphycs on the other. The crisis of muslims is we dont have scholars that are seriously working at the level of asool, we are only recycling at best, our muslim scholars have not actually studied the 'Modern Project' seriously at the level of asool, they have not worked on such inquiry, hence why our communities are completely preplexed. They continue to use old terms based on expired logic and metaphyscs, which renders these discussions meaningless at the end, its crucial to start taking our religioun intellectually serious.

[@TheUnknownMAS]

I don’t understand why some Muslims don’t have confidence in the solution prescribed by Allah SWT? Working for Khilafah Rashidah based on any available opinions or your derived opinion is the task given from Allah even if you get it or not. Nobody says it is any utopia. Phew.

[@syedhasan8181]

Allah gave the formula and we have to figure out how to implement that formula in our place and time. If the formula was enough, then why the rightly guided Caliphs used to sit in Shura with other Sahaba and discuss how to implement the guidance in the Qur'an and Sunnah?

[@Gondal_Fan]

Because Allah is too weak and useless and they know it. There is not a single Calipha that Muslims universally accepted so far. 3 out of 4 so called "Rashiuddin" caliphas were killed by their fellow muslims themselves. First guy only lived 2 years otherwise he would have met the same fate. So Muslims know All is too weak to give them a Calipha for 1400 years and they dont believe in Alla any more

[@laylaali5977]

Allah didn’t prescribed the so called caliphate it was just the name of the political movement after the death of the prophet and it changed to kingdoms later in modern times caliphate is the civil democratic system

[@markov.2467]

You should talk to Shaykh Usta because he has the best blueprint proposal that I've heard of so far.

[@zeenatmohammed2608]

Salaamualaikum from South Africa. A vary deep and insightful conversation. Your knowledges are beyond me. Jzkl khair. Muslim armies marching around would be a folly ,a moving target for our enemies. We must constantly work towards unity wherever we find ourselves. Unity,not necessarily uniformity. Discreet and undercover. Muslims have to go "underground " now,like the ANC in the apartheid struggle here

[@abuyasir9792]

In the saying of Uthman ibn Affan, "Allah deters by the power of government(sultan) those who are not deterred by the teachings of Quran."

[@Ahmad-ps4hn]

Regarding the hadith of sneezing, I was surprised to hear it. I myself has always thought that when I confess something really truthful, I start feeling chills and ticklish around my face and my nose, causing me to sneeze. Sometimes I have really deep epiphanies and when I profess it out loud I start to sneeze. For example, one time I told this woman that I'm truly in love with her sincerely and I started to sneeze. I noticed this pattern of sneezing and confessing the truth that I started to Google the correlation and I found that there are other cultures who believe that there is a correlation and today surprisingly sheikh said there's a hadith that's possibly authentic to verify it too. It's amazing subhanallah and I personally wouldn't dismiss that hadith because I've experienced its truthfulness myself

[@oak7723]

Was this program about HT ?? @ Yasir Qadi, if you are sincere, Why don't you invite HT and let them give the answers, instead of you incorrectly preaching the issue of Caliphate and creating confusion.

[@AKirenM]

Walaikumusalaam Wa rahmatullahi Wa barakahatuhu This discussion is of much benefit to the Ummah and the details provided are greatly appreciated, alhumdulillah. Thank you so much for explaining that the ideal way for good changes would be to begin at a local level by exemplifying Islam ourselves, seeking Allah (swt)’s guidance, aiming for Jannah, and attaining His pleasure. Jazakum Allahu khairun Aameen to the beautiful duas Barak Allahu Feek, Aameen Assalaamualaikum Wa rahmatullahi Wa barakahatuhu

[@skywalkersohan8656]

Read Wael Hallaq's Impossible State to understand why modern nation states are unislamic.

[@fatality153]

The question that is really being asked here, imho, is not that of the abstract concept of a unified political authority over all muslims, rather, it is whether the current form of political authority dominating the Muslim world is one where Islam can be practiced as a world view,, and if not, and it is not, would the way be to reform Islam to fit the political form, or reform our approach to politics and statehood to fit Islam as a worldview? And furthermore, what is the role of the Scholars to prepare the intellectual substructure necessary to garner the critical population mass necessary to make this change, be it gradual or abrupt.

[@ibrahim.1606]

By the comments you would think the biggest scholars of our time are part time keyboard warriors.

[@syedhasan8181]

No, they are not the biggest, but only keyboard warriors are doing something while others do nothing. Planning to do something is doing something, but doing something without any good plan is doing nothing :)

[@heybudstfunow]

cool story bro

[@ebrahimadan3630]

Slm,hope you are not among the warriors.

[@wasiahmed6176]

Lol. People know that what these guys are doing is placate the muslim sentiment.

[@zawarshah8335]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Dont take anyone as authority

[@shehzebimam4991]

Humbly request that representatives/members of groups that are actively working for the Khilafah are invited to discuss the matter since it is their expertise because the Ummah should come to know what are the various conceptions of it in our present reality and what is the road map those groups propose to get there. The matter is quite clear that it is fard upon the Ummah to have a Khilafah & Khalifah. The time is now to have robust discussions with those involved in the work for it and to let them address concerns the wider community/Ummah may have. Also I wonder how Dr. Qadhi & Shaykh Hatem reconcile their position of Khilafah being of lesser priority relative to the well established classical discourse which was quoted in detail in this discussion. It would also be nice to have follow ups with Shaykh Hatem if possible where he can detail how he envisions revival starting from Muslim countries in their respective ways when the entire configuration of nation-state model was designed to foster enmity, division and hatred among the Ummah by colonial powers that carved up Osmanli Khilafah & Mughal Sultanate. Even if we accept the premise that every Muslim country should strive for reform in line with the shar'iah, what would the Shaykh propose in terms of overcoming the deeply embedded foreign actors/entities especially the US & all its machinery in meddling with the affairs of the Ummah no matter the country. When you have a ruling elite loyal to the US & other Western colonial states how can we have representative governments & leaders? All this needs further elaboration and a clear, constructive road map so the Ummah can begin to have tangible solutions. The vicious ideological grip of capitalist nation-state model has ensured nothing but humiliation & oppression for the Ummah in the last 100 years since the fall of Khilafah. We don't have a single successful example where a representative leader came to power and successfully implemented the shar'iah because as Wael Hallaq articulates that the shar'iah is incompatible with modern nation state. So having a well thought out plan for this would be one way to provide alternative methods for establishing Khilafah.

[@hmf33]

Asalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh, what was the book Dr. Hatem recommended on Islam & Politics by Shaykh Nadwi? and also the book that Dr. Yasir recommends us to read towards the end? Jazak Allahu khayran

[@ashleyrandleas8157]

Masha’Allah. Qul hu Allahu ahad ❤️ may we work to unite the ummah and may Allah unite the ummah

[@genzigzag]

You need to first remove the influence of the CIA and Mossad in North Africa and Turkiye. Second that would include identifying the false Royal families of Saudi, Jordan etc... Third, establish the United Islamic Republic with its capital moving between the capitals of each Republic member every 5 years. This body would be separate from the governance at the town/city, district, province levels and Would guide the collective GDP to strengthen the UIR's place on the world stage.

[@UmMusab-yd2ob]

That sound like a start. Where are you located?

[@HistoryNexusII]

Shifting the capital shift every 5 years would be very counterproductive. There shoule be no problem centring the capital in Madinah, while maintaining a provincial capital in every 'Republic member'

[@ahmeddeedat2743]

Yasir Qadhi is my mentor from 🇪🇹 Keep making duaa for 🇵🇸💔

[@nebiladem2271]

Brother make sure you guys work to create unity among Habeshi Muslims. My understanding is that there is huge no of population but very disintegrated society

[@achm3dz]

The famous hadith mentions, " “Whoever among you sees evil, let him change it with his hand. If he cannot do so, then with his tongue. If he cannot do so, then with his heart, which is the weakest level of faith.”. In the west, there are too many evil around us which we cannot even speak about, let alone change it with our hands. So what we do is hate it with our hearts, and thus, we are at the weakest level of faith. And yet, there is no "faith crisis" if there is no Khilafah when we all know that the only way to reach the highest level of faith (changing an evil with hand) is through Khilafah. سُبْحَانَ ٱللَّٰهِ

[@alib7489]

1h16 min into this discussion, and I must say, this is one of the most absorbin, thorough, and academically rigorous discussions I've ever heard on this topic of Khilafa. جزاكم الله خيرا to both esteemed Sheiks.

[@أبوأفنان-ب3و]

وفقكم الله تعالى لكل خير

[@royaltyonline-coza]

Timeline 1h28... those movements that don't encourage activity in working towards political Islam did not understand the life of Habeeb Sallallah hu alai wa sallam. This activism of Rasoolullah Sallallah hu alai wa sallam was discouraged by the Enemies of Islam (Quraysh). Hence, those movements who say "don't actively engage to reestablish the Khilafah" gives us an indication of whose agenda they are backing. Sad to say, but it does.

[@victormwabe]

Thank you YK for bringing the topic to discussion and for your ijmaa quotes, your guest however literally skirted it and you were polite on pushback. Asalaam aleikum.

[@moepharmo]

Sheikh Qhai you are much better you heal the hearts of the misguided, thankyou for your help in my life

[@Usman-ys9tw]

Lol, confuse the already confused with terminologies. Islam in times of peace is different and Islam in times of hardship, difficulty is different. You can’t bring food to me when my house is on fire because it is a Sunnah. You can’t do just acts of worship when what is happening in Palestine. Muslims (especially the imams, ulemas, muftis, faqis etc.) needs to do politics, bring in numbers, get the govts. To pass bills. No building in the world gathers more people then a masjid on a firday. This needs to be done in muslim countries atleast.

[@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah]

Most people want to establish their own version of a Khilafah. They don’t care if it will be ruled by Jahmies, Shia (like it was with Turkic/Kurdish/Persian dynasties of Egypt, Middle East, Central Asia and Hindustan) or whether it’s gonna be a modernist-ikhwani Khilafah like they are trying to create now under the label of “Turan”. The fact is Jahmi or Shia or Panturkists or modernists can establish anything but a real Khilafah. After the decline of Abbasids when they gave power to Ajamies, de facto the real Khilafah stopped existing.

[@sibelshinaishin5170]

We majority of Turks are absolutely against Turkısh involvement in any religious notion of khalifa. We are a democracy, we fought hard to get rid of the Arabist version of Islam. In Turkey men don’t have the upper hand, he can’t marry more than one woman, he doesn’t have the upper hand in getting divorced, etc. We want to keep it that way.democracy is the best representation of islam. As for your clear misunderstanding of the Turan is the union, which is not based on domination of any nation. It is the cooperation of Turkic peoples for mutual benefits. That should concern no one nor should it concern of any one but Turks.

[@aibrahim11]

Great discussion, lacks specialization! With all due respect to two of my most beloved scholars: they both lack political specialization to pass on a judgement of what is feasible and what is not. You made some great points from a shari'ah stand point, but not so much when it comes to the pros and cons of the current nation-state/international order, and whether or not there is a political alternative. This discussion should be in the presence of a group of political scientists and current affairs analysts so the final opinion of our two beloved scholars would be qualified.

[@iyadhilal5011]

A very side question to Dr Yasir Qadhi: did Imam Qurtibi mention Abu Bakr al Asamm only or he mentioned Mutazilite too? This is because when translating Qurtubi quote you added Mutazilah to the quote. We know that Amr bil Maroof and Nahy an el munkar is the fifth basic element in Mutazilah theology which includes Imamah or Khilafah.

[@rashidsheriff2880]

I found this conversation ,at times, hard to follow for some reason. But overall a much needed discussion.

[@MohamedShou]

Why? Was it getting too technical or something?

[@AmirKhan-pm8cb]

During the abbasids you had a more devolved method of rulership. However in the end they recognised a singular khaleef

[@dayan47]

The Chapter The Believers in Quran المومنون verses 52-54 sums it up as only Allah can. The end reality is we are all tribal preferring our culture and traditions and holding on to the notion that they are the best. We may try to establish political Islam on a large scale, believing that we are following some model of the sahaba joining foces under the leader i.e. khalif, yet in order to expand and consolidate the system using the terms khaliphate كلافة/خليفة would necessarily assume that those implementing such would need to be "true believers." in order to have success through obedience to all that Allah and His Messenger ordered.

[@zaidcarlos75]

Turkey? Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatuAllâh wabarakatu dear Sheikh, You commented regarding Turkey. Then, you compared Turkey to Malaysia. You mentioned the leadership. Where is Turkey, & where is Malaysia, Singapore, Siam, Indonesia, China, Myanmar, Vietnam! Shall I continue insh'Allâh...?

[@ruhaimahamed3705]

Dear Sheikh, please continue the series on the prophets.

[@RIMJANESSOHMALOOG]

I don't think we can establish khilafa at the moment, even if we want it badly, but local reforms are 100% possible. And this is what we should focus on (Circle of Concern vs Circle of Influence).

[@MansurSögütgülü]

Why u think that ?

[@mdfahd24]

Sahaba never doubted it in Khandaq when RasūlAllahﷺ said regarding the conquering of two Superpowers of the time. What makes you doubt today? Stay firm in the Deen and strive to make it victorious, Nasruminallah wa fathun qareeb

[@nahidmen]

what does it mean to establish khilafah? doesn't it mean to establish justice and rule of law, where the law being the hadd, and those derived from Shriya's fundamentals? does it mean to enforce personal level ibadah, or does it mean enforcing ban upon personal level sins?

[@nahidmen]

as far as I understand, establishing Allah's deen means in no way to enforce personal level bindings in any way. it's absolutely forbidden for the state to enforce Deen's personal level ahkam's on anyone. establishment of deen only means that there must be justice at state level, the judicial system will act according to the laws derived from Shriya's fundamentals when it comes to dealing with criminal actions.

[@ma5839]

Khilafah is a specific legal system. The furu' fiqh of Hajj exemplifies how the entire Muslim Ummah can be organized and to follow a collective will, intelligence, behavior throughout the hours of the day, day by day, for specific time periods. Setting aside national limitations, in theory every hajj could be 10s of millions performing in unison. The khilafah system as exemplified by the khulafa rashidoon provides the Ummah the way to reimplementing khilafah in totality and specificity, for The Cause of Allah. Remember, the Cause of Allah means: Divine Revelation of The Holy Quran, and Sunnah, supercedes human machinations.

[@ma5839]

Yes, there are specific ahkaam which form a system with definitve legal parameters, rather than mere principles without specific legal structures.

[@amuthi1]

It means establishing religio-fascism.

[@DanishAli-rm2ky]

Or does it mean imposing people like baghdadi or mullah umer on muslims.

[@abuyasir9792]

Surah al Kahf 18:26 And He Allah doesnt allow anyone to share with Him in His Rule. Surah Teen 95:8 Isnt Allah the Best of Judges?

[@dbh-o8m]

I like how the thumbnail says how should we do it rather than should we do it, it's progress

[@saracentiano]

Amazing!

[@zafarahmad4954]

I don't know why the Sheikh has to mention Sh. Nadwi several times. Nadwi's book talks about his concerns or fears about Maududi's explanation of four fundamental terms of the Quran. One can agree on the concerns but nowhere Nadwi had anything that countered Maududi's argument. Whatever Maududi derived from the Quran could not be refuted by Nadwi.

[@sophosalpha]

Maudoodi was a genuine scholar much ahead of his time. He is the top most political philosopher in modern history of Islam

[@rashidology7341]

Have either of the speakers read Professor Muhammad Al Massari's ground breaking work on the events of the Saqeefah? He goes into all evidences and clears up many misconceptions, moreover his work on Hijrah and citizenship clears up the issues related to cessation, multiple leaders/limited autonomy, meaning of the 'Arab in the narrations etc

[@Afthab19]

I clearly understood what these sheikhs meant , it was a bit technical and absorbing video but still i agree with them If we try to establish Caliphate then we become Fifth columnists inside our own countries , we may bring upon ourselves Orwellian surveillance as the state may see us a perceived national threat working to undermine National security for establishing Caliphate Even if we establish a Caliphate hypothetically, we have to worry about its borders , separatism and secession more than implementing shariah

[@boygenius538_8]

Then so be it. We must do what Allah commanded of us.

[@ak_athariyyah]

Establishing a Caliphate is good and is needed to advance Muslim rights, perspectives and to protect Muslims. However we need to not romanticise the past Caliphates in think that under them the Muslims lived a fairytale Islamic life within the Islamic Law (Shariah). Even now establishing the Caliphate would not suddenly change the state of the ummah, it's lack of religiosity, it's economic power or military might etc. But with that said every Muslim should want its establishment and work towards that within their capacity. However this not an obligation to establish as no Islamic evidence suggest it is obligatory to work for or to establish. In fact many clear obligations take priority in establishment and calling towards before this Caliphate. Plus we can live and establish good firm Muslim minorities and Muslim majority countries without a Caliphate. But it maybe easier and quicker under a Caliphate. From looking at the seerah it seems Caliphate is established as a by product of the ummah being majority upright and religious. This issue is not one to split or argue over because that will certainly not lead to the establishment of a Caliphate and Allah knows best.

[@shehzebimam4991]

if we could live fine as minorities or well in Muslim majorities, then explain our situation in the last 100 years ... the fact is these "countries" are a direct byproduct of colonial take over of former lands of Islam and on top are in the firm grip of our colonizers because of their lackeys literally being put in positions of power before they left So then how can we seek to live under complete Islam in this present reality where the so called Muslim majority countries are ruled by iron fist? Easy to say each country should look to reform but there seems to be a clear disconnect in recognizing the actual roadblocks that ensure those reforms don't take place. The ruling elite are heavily entrenched and will stop at nothing to neutralize any such effort. As long as the elephant in the room, the power brokers, remains unchallenged, it does not matter how many individuals per say become pious. We are unlikely to witness a holistic revival. The ideal would be to have work done among the masses to build a collective understanding of Islam as a comprehensive system that can address our problems and have the sincere among the elite with means to create a ripple effect on board.

[@ayn_al_shams]

42:20 considering how much you were stressing the importance of nuance and differentiating between striving for muslim leadership vs a general khilafah, one would think the issue of obeying the leader wouldn't be mixed with the issue of khilafah. The majority's position, that there be one imam, is not disconnected from reality at all because they aren't undermining the authority of such leaders in obediance but instead they consider such a situation as prohibited

[@waheeb_m]

Great discussion. Jzk khair

[@turboparadise]

While working towards hilafah if you are not neglecting your other duties as a Muslim then there is no problem. Whether you get there or not you win.

[@UncleSaif]

Well done !!!!!

[@waqarsarwar4522]

The guest is miture enough to say that maybe i was right when i was young so to me that summarize it, khilafah will be established by young people. In sha ALLAH

[@laylaali5977]

It will never be stablished because it was a mid evil political system

[@faisalniazi1899]

99% of all my problems would be the same, whether i live under jahelia or a caliphate. But Allah allow us to live in the best way. A way which He is pleased with us.

[@taqiyuddinzulkifli6056]

Ok. Having said all that, now who is my leader? I live in Australia, there’s so much disunity and mixed messages and so many affairs of the believers needs to be fixed, so who is my go to amirul mu’minin?

[@YemeniteYokel]

I can't wait for the reactions to this discussion.

[@MohamedShou]

Why?

[@soroushdarvish9281]

well any negative reaction will just be embaressing and from a dark place

[@mohamedosman8439]

Good debate and conversation very educational for millions of emotionally trapped Muslims . I just want to remind people of a great point dr ghadi made about romantasisaion of the past and disregarding the atrocities that happened under their watch. I think dr Hatim is having vision and wisdom as dr Gaghdi

[@mohamedosman8439]

I meant to mention that the rest of the world were not asleep when Muslims ruled for 800 years

[@MohamedShou]

I love these two Sheikhs I have literally learned the basics of Hanbali Fiqh from Hatem el Haj and of course *learned so much* from Yasir Qadhi I don’t care about the triggered criticism that will come after this but these two men are doing what’s best for the ummah Anyone curses or disrespects these two men may Allah curse you 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@_zaaphiel]

What's the Hanbali ruling on cursing people?

[@boygenius538_8]

What is the hanbali opinion on the obligation of a united khilafah and its priority?

[@abrarhameem1000]

1:25 when Yasir Qadhi said this is perhaps will be a series, I jumped for happiness insha'Allah May Allah bless it

[@ibnmusaa]

This is what we need more of. Thank You Shaykh !

[@intansharuddin1749]

just wow masya Allah!!all so inspiring, even the title ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@abuyasir9792]

an objective of the Shariah Islamic Khilafah system is to protect society from certain actions which, if they occur, would be damaging to the whole community. Examples of such actions include drinking alcohol, murder, adultery, apostasy and theft. The punishments for these crimes are not geared merely to reform the individual, but are a deterrent to the community.

[@amuthi1]

Keep your non-functional religio-fascism to yourself.

[@laylaali5977]

You mean Taliban

[@googooboyy]

2 very brilliant minds.

[@imazspams6760]

They didn't even talk about how Ummah is suffering for not having Caliphate

[@ArtandKnowledgebyZiyaanZuber]

Well said, Khilafah was a result of the dawah of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him for 23 years . Now the Muslims are like in the makkan era in some places and madina era in other, so we basically came back especially after colonization, most importantly, the colonization of the mind and thought and aqeedah. Even if muslim countries are 'independent' WE have to educate and do tarbiyah of every muslim household upon islam and when we have a community in which majority of Muslims fulfil the fard and stay away from major sins and shirk, only such people will be ble to get Khilafah and live in a Khilafah. Because there are many Muslims who would oppose it, so both should go hand in hand paralelly

[@OmarOmar-bh1iu]

الخلافة الخلافة الخلافة.......ام الفرائض khilafah is the mother of other obligations.sharia cannot be applied without khilafah

[@snakejuce]

Not to be that guy, but can you PLEASE choose a warmer/darker color tone for the walls? You can go anywhere from monochrome to flat complementary and warm colors. Something that won't make the eyes bleed while watching 🙃

[@rubel_r]

Why are we even talking if it is Sunnah or not. Does it really matter, in this day and age. If you and me both like football, we create a football club so other football enthusiasts can come along and we can have good time, and protect our common interest in legitimate way. If we all love Islam, and our prophet, should we not then have common khilafah or khilafahs that will be working towards a same goal??

[@q4u2die4]

[Quote] At the end of the day, Dr. Hatem Al Haj made his point clear: he is content with the nation state as a concept for the Muslim world. He says so trying to wish wash his real intentions. [unquote] اجتنبوا كثيرا من الظن ... .. . إنما الأعمال بالنيات ... .. . ‏إياكم والظن، فإن الظن أكذب الحديث

[@taqiyuddinzulkifli6056]

Next podcast should discuss how to get towards khilafah please

[@nahidmen]

in this time, one solution may be, the existing governments of the separate Muslim countries are to give allegiance under a single Person who be called as the supreme leader of the United Muslim League. who would have the power to dismiss a govt if they doing injustice and on the basis of respective country's huge population's complain, under an unified constitution. and he would be removed and replaced through the vote of no confidence by the majority number of country's governments.

[@wasifjalal6965]

Oh, what a delightful fantasy we've stumbled upon! Imagine, if you will, a world where all Muslim-majority countries surrender their sovereignty to a singular, omnipotent "supreme leader." Yes, because clearly, centuries of diverse cultural evolution, distinct legal systems, and independent political developments are just minor hiccups to be swept under the grand rug of unity. Picture the harmony of cultural differences magically dissolving as everyone embraces the same traditions and interpretations of Islam. Sunni, Shia, Wahhabi-why not throw in a few more denominations for good measure? After all, religious unity has always been a hallmark of peace in the region, hasn't it? And let's not forget the political landscape. Those pesky democracies, monarchies, and autocracies can finally join hands in a blissful dance of uniform governance. What a quaint idea that countries with starkly different political systems would happily submit to a single constitution. Who cares about the intricate legal frameworks meticulously developed over centuries? Economic disparities? Pish posh! The wealth of oil-rich nations can surely trickle down seamlessly to the poorer ones. It's not like economic policy or resource management ever leads to conflict. Just imagine the joyous redistribution of wealth-Saudi riches flowing freely into Somalia and Yemen. Utopia achieved! Oh, the linguistic kaleidoscope of Arabic, Turkish, Persian, Urdu, and dozens of other languages will blend effortlessly. A Babelian paradise where everyone suddenly understands each other, all thanks to our supreme leader's divine linguistic unification powers. Of course, historical animosities and national pride are mere trivialities. Centuries of rivalry and conflict will evaporate overnight as everyone unites under the banner of the United Muslim League. Nationalism? Just a fleeting fad! Sectarian divides? What sectarian divides? The proposal's sheer brilliance will make Sunnis and Shias embrace in an eternal brotherly hug. Military autonomy? Who needs it? Let's just pool all our armies and see how wonderfully that works out. Human rights? Well, those varied standards across different countries will just harmonize themselves. Women's rights in Saudi Arabia, free speech in Iran, and religious freedom in Pakistan-it's a melting pot of rights! Leadership legitimacy, you say? Simple! The supreme leader will obviously be accepted by all. Why wouldn't they? Accountability? A quaint concept for those not enlightened by this proposal's genius. And, of course, the logistics! Imagine the seamless coordination required to manage this utopia-no room for resistance, corruption, or security risks. The local governance and public support will naturally fall into place, because who wouldn't want to be part of this grand design? International relations will be a breeze. The world will surely welcome this monolithic entity with open arms. Economic integration will occur without a hitch, and all resources will be managed equitably and without dispute. In the end, who needs practical, nuanced approaches when you can have such a splendidly idealistic vision? Implementation is just a minor detail in this grand scheme. After all, what could possibly go wrong? Come out of fantasy land

[@amuthi1]

Do you know the comic "Isnogud" with a theme of constant fight of "wanting to be the kalif instead of the kalif". You might enjoy it.

[@riazuddin6339]

Understood, but the state of affairs with Muslims on the ground is desperate! What is the solution? Do we just simply sacrifice the current desperate situations and look forward to a better united future? Clearly, due to lack of unity all these happening. Are we just going to bite our lips and say “ unfortunately it was Palestine and Rohingya and uguir Muslims turn this time around to suffer and let it go?” I don’t see anyone or any groups taking any positive steps other than discussion like this from time to time and leaving it to that! Millions of Afghans/ Iraqi/ Syrians killed by outside forces, have we taken any steps after these atrocities collectively or as an individual nation to prevent future atrocities? The answer is no! hence current atrocities in Palestine. How much more time do we need for these spectrum of opinions to unite? These are the common questions from common people, clearly, I don’t want my family or my country to be next in the queue for another atrocity! Immediate action required to unify the ummah.

[@asmaehichou9363]

This discussion is highlevel and too nuanced to be extreem so I listened to each word which does not mean i agree or disagree. I belong to those who prioritise establihing Khilafa within family the establishing Khilafa in having the eid on the same day in Belgium for example ...

[@heybudstfunow]

there is no establishing khilafah in your family lol that's fake brother and just makes you feel good

[@DhikrDose]

Anyone with a Salafi background watching? I used to believe yq to be a deviant for so many reasons but that's ridiculous now thinking about it.. he's just being misunderstood by some simple minded folks like me

[@zainhanifmiah]

me too, i’m an ex-salafi

[@gihansalamdat3786]

What is more realistic? All muslims pray Fajr in the mousque or building a caliphate? The Caliphate was something already existing…

[@MohammadQasim]

Why are you undermining khalafah to be not necessary (Waajib) I understand its not available right now and we can in the meantime be pragmatic but the necessary nature of it shouldn't be denied. Allahu Alam.

[@syedhasan8181]

Isn't Fard means you must do it right now and not postpone it? :)

[@AK_UK_]

Whose the caliph in your so called caliphate?

[@heybudstfunow]

but look what happened to i**si**s when they tried ??

[@ahussain9]

Excellent discussion mashallah

[@GhaniAhmadi-rx4qg]

I really appreciate you Dear Yasir ❤️ That was absolutely important and significant discussion about Islamic politics and caliphate. Thank you and your guest. Respect from Afghanistan 🇦🇫

[@wasiahmed6176]

So, according to the scholar here, the khalifa is the successor of the group. So if that were true, then the muhajiroon would have been okay to pick their khalifa and the ansar would have been okay to have their khalifah. No?

[@ismailsarchives7477]

The khalifa being a "representative" is a modern interpretation. No, it would not be ok. You can't have two in the same place because of the hadith.

[@EwaHa]

Before we can think of a caliph, we must first unify the ummah. For now, there is no agreement on any issue, and the caliph must be recognized by a majority.

[@ismailsarchives7477]

The OIC was an attempt to do that. What's your next step?

[@ma5839]

You misunderstand. The Truth/alHaqq supercedes the majority. Allah AWJ has already revealed & fulfilled His Favor, establishing Islam. The Ummah is the Ummah of the Prophet (saws). The Ummah consists of: believers, Muslims, and hypocrites. The believers are united behind him. The problem is the Muslims are misled by the hypocrites who were empowered by the disbelievers. Hypocrites, like Ibn Ubayy al Salul, mislead by claiming to bring unity, claiming Islam, while always conspiring against the Cause of Allah & the believers. The answer is: advance call propagate struggle for The Cause of Allah in the way of the Sunnah & the righteous khulafa. Even if they are a minority, as Abu Bakr & the Sahaba were after the Prophet (saws) died

[@jagoman85]

The Caliphate is a means of building unity, rather than the result of unity.

[@chipwilliams6236]

that's just an excuse modern day Muslims really care for having a caliph.

[@Nafshadow]

Al-Hamde li-Allah Forever الحمد لله دائما و أبدا

[@rashedjamal3055]

Alhamdulillah. I have benefitted a lot from this. Thanks a lot Dr. Yasir and Dr. El Haj.

[@ShonMardani]

Do you know a single shaykh or imam who you can call Khilafah? Yasir, do you want to be khalif of all Muslims including the Shias?

[@naijiri]

May the Khilafa rise again.

[@mudassirdaimee5985]

Very important and theopolitical intellect talk jazakallaho khairan

[@thestraightpath2909]

اللهم صل وسلم على نبينا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه أجمعين وسلم تسليما كثيرا إلى يوم الدين

[@taqiyuddinzulkifli6056]

We don’t need lots of imams. Instead we should have a lot of governor in different muslim lands but ultimately all working together under 1 imam

[@checkmate5338]

This topic of discussion in my humble opinion, is why we need Shaykh Yasir Qadhi to teach Islamic history.

[@BeObjectiveBeHumble]

The many authentic Hadeeth on the Mal'hamtul Kub'raArmageddon mention the West will fight the Muslims under 80 Banners/Flags, each of them with 12,000 soldiers, the same Hadeeth never mentioned the Muslims coming under different banners, do you think the Muslims could take on a nearly 1 Million Army from the West without a United Khilaafah???

[@usmanahmed4447]

Allah (s.w.t) bless us all like He (s.w.t) blessed/ess The best of The Ahle Bayth

[@millsali7654]

Painful as it was listening to these 2 brothers, pontificating with intellectual verbal gymnastic and sawing the seed of confusion and conjecture!! Let's keep this simple especially for these 2 "sheikh" brothers. Forget the topic of Khilafah, I think its obvious your not interested in it, while working hard to prevent the sincere Muslims from this intellectual struggle. How is it that you "sheikh" brothers feel so comfortable living in this kufr world order??? We ARE living under, kings, prince's, oppressors and dictators, so what should come next??? 😂

[@ismailsarchives7477]

Dismantling of the Sykes-Picot borders, obviously.

[@althea_is_smokin_hot]

Sir,caliphate by its definition removes the religion aspect of islam as caliphate is pursuit of territorial power. Violence is an integral part of caliphate,and sword is its time tested weapon. Ummah and caliphate are outmoded concepts of islam in 21st century. Example: Gulf countries of Arabian peninsula. Can they form a caliphate ?

[@M3ITASNUVA]

Al-Hamdulillah for all .

[@moali4470]

It’s easy to live in an echo chamber Why not invite from those who call for the Khilafah? Given the situation around the Muslim lands, this discussion is not going away no matter how much you wish to belittle it. Your hand has been forced, that’s why you felt it important enough to address it The more people become aware of it the quicker your voices will be drowned out