Israel, After America || Peter Zeihan

[@LarryGoldstein-l7k]

I live in Israel, and though I am not ultra-Orthodox, I work with them, and I give lectures to their college students about patents & intellectual property. Zeihan’s description of them today is correct, but he does not understand them, and has not correctly identified the trend. More of them than ever before are serving in the army, studying in college, and going into high-tech. Not enough of them, the trend will take another decade, but it is happening. Plus they are people who do things 100%, not by half-measure. As for the Saudi-Israeli alliance, it is not as firm as portrayed here, but if there is such an alliance, it will defeat Iran. Larry M. Goldstein

[@JohnDoe0224]

The first question is how Israel surivives from recent conflict

[@Aliballer]

Lol their won't be the arab street won't allow it.

[@EricoDeCastro]

His first bit made no sense, I don’t know the details but if you are subsiding studies on the Tora and people are actually becoming more religious AND growing families it shouldn’t be obvious, as he tells his prediction, that they will be unproductive.

[@detectivejohndyson]

@@JohnDoe0224easily.

[@edan513]

​@@Aliballerhow well that working out. At this point there aren't even any streets left in Gaza.

[@grampadad]

PAY ATTENTION YOU ALL!!....He said last week he wouldn't be creating new videos for a while but would be putting out pre-recorded videos over Christmas

[@photosynthesis69]

He also said “not a single 3rd country is likely to get involved” in the Israel Hamas war. He said this AFTER the US was sending or had already sent an aircraft carrier strike group to the region.

[@tlNCG]

hahaha get your meds dude@@oscararborist

[@hughjass1044]

He must have recorded this well before the Hamas war since Turkey is currently fit to be tied with Israel over it. Also, it's way too sunny and warm looking in the video for it to be recent.

[@Nalololol]

Do you know anything about colorado? Lol

[@anthonykaiser974]

​​@@Nalolololdo you know anything about biology? The trees and other flora were blooming and there were green leaves on deciduous trees.

[@hughjass1044]

I know what I see and the last several videos he did from Colorado hiking trails were quite a bit snowier than that and Peter was dressed a lot warmer.@@Nalololol

[@johngoss3997]

He made an intro video to this series noting it was recorded months ago, but to be released now during holiday season while he/his team take time off

[@k.sullivan6303]

Peter put out a video about 8 to 10 days ago, announcing that he was preparing in advance a little series of videos to give his subscribers some material to check out every day while he is taking a break over the holiday season. Some of these videos may be a bit recycled, I am not sure, but I am enjoying them.

[@wealthassistant]

I love that wording ,"paid to study the Torah and as a result they have a lot of kids", because it leaves open what is the actual driver here. Other countries have tried paying their citizens to have more kids and with 0 success across the board. Instead, if people study texts all day that tell them to "be fruitful and multiply" they might just do that.

[@autogenes]

😂👍

[@carmenmccauley585]

​@@autogenesexactly my reply!

[@krisspkriss]

Or just make it economically viable to have kids. When you look at how much middl class people make and how much their kids cost, it is pretty obvious why populations are declining.

[@iulianhodorog9979]

​@@krisspkriss Economics has nothing to do with it. Look who has many children... The ugly truth is the education of women directly impacts the number of kids, not economics😅

[@adi6293]

@@iulianhodorog9979 It's all connected but it is true that poor people have more kids, I come from a family of 6 kids and we were dirt poor, I honestly don't understand it, I have 1 child myself and I would like to have more but it would way too expensive and stressful and ideally I would like a stay home wife but I can't afford it so I guess 1 kid it is 😅

[@allenshepard7992]

The lack of snow & abundance of grass means this was filmed months ago. I hope a new book is coming out.

[@nerenahd]

Peter is always at home, recording over a green screen. 😂

[@DurzoBlunts]

Not like New Zealand is in summertime you dolt.... American?

[@ivermectindealer]

@@DurzoBlunts He said at the beginning of the video this is Colorado.

[@HarJBeRw]

He said that his "After America" series was filmed in advance as preparation content for his month long break happening right now

[@Nalololol]

Yall are a bunch of incorrect meteorologist.

[@cjosephmandolin6341]

Peter, I've been following your position regarding an American withdrawal from its current international obligations for quite some time, however, it would appear to be overstated given the United States' current level of commitment to Israel vis a vis the matter in Gaza. While the United States need not rely on oil from the Near East, its allies in Europe do rely on it and therefore I do not see an American withdrawal anytime soon, but rather only a modification to reflect the current realities of the day. No doubt, those pushing for a "multi-polar New World Order" system (Putin's words) would love to see a post-American world order, but I do not see it happening. One of the chief architects of this multi-polar new world order system, Henry Kissinger, is dead, and the others are greying out. Even in the Far East, the United States has not reduced but expanded its military footprint via new bases in the Philippines. Where is the American withdrawal?

[@jeffbeck8993]

Peter overstates things with unwarranted confidence common to Millennials who are instant experts and oracles after 1 minute reading Google Search results. IMO, the rise and fall of empires in history is a fair indication that the US shall go the way of all others before it. If you can get people on board with that, then current events often fit nicely, and his social media followers will gush about how A-maaaazing he is. When he get things wrong and people start seeing through the gig he's got going, the knives come out in his defense. Be like criticizing Trump at a MAGA rally.

[@bulthaosen1169]

Actually he is wrong about many things if you look at past video. American commitment will decrease. Yes. But in Europe. European economies are stagnating and is also freeloading on US while not contributing enough to US interest. That is competing with or restraining china. Israel is absolutely essential for US to maintain a footprint in that region. Taiwan will not fall for the foreseeable future too. Asian partnerships are absolutely vital since they are the ones competing and pushing back on china. Not Europe. Core strategic interest is not something US will abandon. All these people saying "looking inwardly" or "focusing on America" don't get the fact that all those actions ARE focusing on America. Multipolar world will happen. That is a guarantee. While superpower status may cease to exist US doesn't want china to get that status either. US wants to be the big pole. Or the pole bigger than china.

[@robbycook4298]

Hi Peter, I just was deployed to Saudi. The US still controls all of their national defense and military training. As well as weapons systems..like air defense. Which only US personal know how to operate. The US has increased in presence since the Biden administration. And was still high during the Trump. I do not see that changing within the next 20 years. We also have plans to be a power in th3 mildew east for the next 50 years at a min. Especially with Jordan becoming the new Kuwait (made base model being built). I don't think u got this one right. US ain't going anywhere no matter who the future President will be. But if your saying this could happen or what would happen if the US leaves I can see that. But what it looks like is less US troops in some areas and higher troops in targeted areas. Supporting the nation our troops are in with providing the bodies under US commands. That's most likely the future.

[@tumslucks9781]

Wrong! In 5 years Saudi will be a radioactive desert. Oil wealth is useless in smouldering ruins but this requires a level of intelligence the stupidly selfish Gulf Arabs do not have.

[@Alex-pd8zi]

Bad revelation. If US is SA air defence then because those air defence have let through a lot of Iranian drones and had SA oil plant destroyed - US is not ready for modern war

[@raphaelsasson9726]

Many other base assumptions Peter makes are also wrong. For example, Jordan is completely dependent on Israel since Israel is the only reason the Jordan's still exist. If Israel stops supplying water to Jordan, this will immediately destroy Jordan as a state. They have absolutely no alternatives. Another example: The bigger the orthodox jewish population gets, the bigger portion of them both serve in the military and participate in the labor force. Right now 65% of them are working, and it increases stadily in the past 20 years. Moreover, as soon as the goverment cannot support them, it won't, and they will be forced to work. Due to the latest events, there is a boost in military service applications among this population. Another examole: the most growing population in israel is not the orthidox jewish, but the religius jewish nationalists. And they serve in the military more than anyone else. Also, they are working just as the secular population. But the biggest wrong assumption is that parameters don't affect each other. Every parameter continues to remain constant. If right now religious people don't work in Israel, Peter assumes they never will. Well, everywhere outside of Israel, these orthodox jews are all working. The only reason they don't in Israel, is that the goverment allows them by paying them. As soon as the goverment cuts these subsidies, as happend in the early 2000s, their will to work will spike. Same with military service. Where there is a need, there is a will. Linear extrapolation does not work in such predictions.

[@robbycook4298]

@@raphaelsasson9726 I completely agree with your assessment.

[@nerenahd]

@@raphaelsasson9726 Bro, Peter is basically a KZbinr nowadays. And he definitely learned that the more radical/outrageous the content is, the more views. His conclusions are usually a 101 masterclass on Euler diagrams. In other words, he might identify many facts correctly, however his conclusions are usually way off (aka the collapse of China, the collapse of Germany, de impending retirement of USA from global stage, so on and so forth). I listen to his videos while cooking or whatever only for the factual info, 'cause the conclusions are usually laughable.

[@whycantyouwakeup]

This is a great video. The inverse of this video would also be interesting. Would you make a video exploring the potential of America After Israel?

[@markpukey8]

He did. He published 4 books on the subject. I highly recommend all of them to you.

[@JagjitSingh-ec1gb]

​@@markpukey8Books names or sources?

[@markpukey8]

@@JagjitSingh-ec1gbGo to Google, search for "Zeihan Amazon" and you'll get links to all four.

[@AlbionTVLondon]

60% inflation in Turkey. Let that sink in.

[@GBGB000]

Many ultra-Orthodox women in Israel DO work while their husbands "work" as rabbis and yeshiva teachers. They start businesses, open stores, operate childcare centers, etc. It's quite common. And even among men, the younger generation is increasingly joining the army and becoming involved in tech and startups. The situation will look very different in another generation or two.

[@olterigo]

I don't think people unfamiliar with Jewish history in the modern era quite appreciate the potential (and I'd say very likely) change in the pace of change.

[@adairjanney7109]

Yeah Israel has a GREAT human rights record

[@roejogan9322]

What country has a great human right recorded dude?

[@JM-yn8mb]

And you probably think any country in the Middle East has a better one?

[@dfrcj]

Which country in the Middle East HAS or WILL EVER come close to Israel's human rights record?

[@adairjanney7109]

@@JM-yn8mb literally almost all of them, take Jordan I dont see them commiting genocide you fools

[@roejogan9322]

@@dfrcj omg lets start: Yemen- over 10000 killed since the start of the civil war. Syria- over 10000 killed since the start of the civil war. Chemical weapons have been used against civilian population. Ethnic cleansing of Yazidi christians Saudia- Multiple human rights violation in regard to human trafficking and state sanctioned assasisination on forge in soil. Turkey- ongoing oppression and ethnic cleansing of multiple ethnic minorities most specifically the Kurds. Egypt- ongoing suppression and oppression of Coptic christian minority. That's just from the top of my head. Btw- everyone of these countries have a "stellar" record of execution of LGBT civilians

[@curtisep5885]

Been waiting for this one for a LONG time. Thx Peter

[@thorus528]

Just came across your channel. Interesting angle. Great to see there are still some intelligent self-reflecting Americans out there. Your type is seriously under represented here in the rest of world.

[@oskarvomhimmel6936]

There was a king named Herod who was so afraid to have power taken away from him that he ordered the killing of all babies under 2years of age in his domain, apparently also killed 2 of his own children and a wife...I am not sure if he is/was the same that had John the Baptist killed and beheaded...in any case, he was also held in high regard by the Roman Emperor for his loyal service, and...also a great builder of his times...a few decades after his time, the same Roman Empire that held that King bb in high regard moved into the Province he reigned over and destroyed his city and temple, eventually triggering the Jewish diaspora...Today, mr Nutty a'who? Seems to be equally "appreciated" and "held in high regard" by the major power of our era's leader...and history, including the killing of babies and his very own people (the kings in question) seems to be happening again...Could that be a clear sign of future events in the region?...I'd say it looks like it...😶‍🌫️

[@edweinb]

Interesting analysis but I wonder, if America goes away, would the Saudis be able to hold their own country together?

[@misterwhipple2870]

Nope.

[@randomguy3496]

That was literally his point. Not alone. Yes with a strong alliance with Israël.

[@minzblatt]

Not enough. Sometimes 1+1 is not 2 but 0, like in this example. Zeihan did 2 or 3 takes before on the whole Saudi deal before, which is why most of us are wondering why he is now just omitting the critical part of that deal. Saudi basically promised to cooperate with the little nation to secure military commitments from the US against Iran. The deal was never just about cooperation with the little nation, which they already have behind closed doors. It was always about US military assurances and a continuing presence in the Golf, which the US public is less and less in favor of since the sh.shows of Afg, Iraq and Syria.

[@michaelbrown7142]

Unfortunately the Saudis couldn't fight its way out of a paper bag.

[@doujinflip]

Not to mention the feudal theocracy movements the Saudis have been allowing support for, developing a Muslim World with a hair trigger against America (culminating in 9/11) but ignore even more blatant anti-Muslim campaigns from China, Burma, Serbia, etc.

[@PoliceScanner.Stream]

Thanks for another great truth bomb Peter.

[@tylerduke5859]

"Why did I decide to do this on the uphill part?" Lol you're always fun Peter cause you still take time to not be a seemingly all knowing robot and show us you're still human. Happy New Year and looking forward to more videos as always :)

[@pocophone2010]

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[@shtroizn]

As an Israeli - I am not entirely on board with your assessments here Peter: 1) There are changes happening within the Orthodox Jewish population in Israel - for instance - many women are studying and working - including in the Israeli Defense Industrial complex. Also, since October 7th, thousands of Orthodox Jewish men have asked to be drafted in the IDF - this marks a remarkable change in viewpoint and could result in an agreed upon solution to the issue of who carries the brunt of the burden regarding military service, work and taxation and more. Politically of course - this is a potential powder keg. 2) The United states not interested in the Middle East?! I guess this series is about a hypothetical scenario of this happening but the United States is very much interested in the Middle East and the Abraham accords - especially what was supposed to happen in September (the signing of a normalization treaty between Israel and Saudi Arabia and the future opening of a major economic corridor between India, the Middle East aka Israel and Saudi Arabia, and Europe). This is most likely what led to the Hamas attack (likely orchestrated by Iran) and the Houthi and Hezbollah attacks. 3) One of the painful realizations now in Israel (among many painful realizations) is that it cannot count forever on US assistance. Without it - Israel not only has a problem with ammunition and weapons supplies but mainly - at the United Nations Security council. The first issue it will most likely remedy to an extent to be more self sufficient and manufacture its own ammunition. The second issue - hard to see any country with a Veto at the UN Security Council stepping in on behalf of Israel. This is a big problem which could in the future lead to a weapons embargo on Israel (only strengthens the 1st point - that Israel has to rely on itself).

[@minzblatt]

October comes after September, so that point makes no sense.

[@shtroizn]

@@minzblatt I see your point but well, there were delays and all kinds of issues with the agreement - no one really knows if Hamas/Iran/Putin were set on a date or not. October 7th happens to be Putin's Birthday which could be a coincidence (or not). Iran also dismisses the accusation that it orchestrated the October 7th massacre. In some ways, Hamas may have actually attacked prematurely since there are indications that Hezbollah was planning a joint attack from both fronts. Hamas botched this up. Again, we don't have all the information, maybe if some top Hamas leader is captured by the IDF - Israel can wrest more info out of him.

[@niallsheehan474]

How about treating their neighbours like human beings and trying to get along .

[@mohamedelbchiri6149]

I think Israel will never have a Rest because God want them like that

[@ocheltree1]

So the US gives 2 billion dollars of taxpayer money for another country to financially support their people in not working but studying the torah? I'd prefer healthcare for my own people with my own tax dollars.

[@Mcfunface]

Of course you would, but unfortunately there is disproportionate amount of representation in Congress by literal Jewish ancestry who make the decision in the first place.

[@ocheltree1]

@@Mcfunface , true. I am not against Israel or Jews or anybody for that matter, I just think we spend way to much on helping people outside of the US when the people here need way more than we get.

[@Mcfunface]

@@ocheltree1 Likewise. But there is a conflict of interest.

[@RichieSawant]

It's a 2 way street, the financial system as well as scientific prowess in America is built by the Jews in US

[@bufordhighwater9872]

Sometimes I can't believe that we actually get these briefings for free. Seriously... We get these for free.

[@dbearden3232]

Would you stop with this. It's a dude walking in the forest talking for 4 minutes. There is content on KZbin that took hundreds of not thousands of hours to create and you're gushing about a "shower thoughts" video.

[@sof553]

Talking about an Israeli-Saudi partnership is beyond farcical. You would have to know literally nothing about the region, current or past history, to believe this nonsense.

[@TS-zp7pe]

Man calm down, it’s not even accurate

[@jeffbeck8993]

@@dbearden3232 Gawd, thank you for the reality check. The culty 'guru' vibe in this guy's comment section is creepy. He's got his rap down, so he just tweaks it when he's wrong, and people still gush like teenage girls. It's like a Trump rally, but with douchey Millennial man buns instead of red MAGA hats.

[@michellemason1273]

@@dbearden3232have you even looked into Peter Zeihan’s credentials? He’s not just some random guy walking in the mountains. He’s got his own Wikipedia page. Governments and Fortune 500 companies pay to hear what he has to say.

[@RobertNorthrop]

Wow - Colorado looking pretty green for December. I just drove from the western slope to the Denver/Boulder area and it was snowery than that.

[@KevinBalch-dt8ot]

Climate change.

[@albertstahl3474]

very cool sun glasses in addition to interesting perspective

[@kamikazeabe-ru8735]

There's something to learn about this guys spouting nonsense with such confidence

[@ninjacorp.7501]

Mars, in a post-American world...

[@svenhoek]

This is a Pre-Oct 7 take

[@anthonykaiser974]

Looks like May 7.

[@backtoreality5849]

was just watching latest video (after this one) from zeihan, on India assassins in Canada and USA. then it was unavailable to continue watching and removed from my history also. Interesting to see if it comes back and or if this post stays

[@toerape]

I got the ping from TY there was a new vid, but missed watching it. Went looking, but couldn't;t find a re-upload :(

[@kursk124]

Excellent analysis. Thank you sir

[@steelcross839]

What is the economic base that allows Turkey to spend so much on the military. Can you do a separate review of Turkey's finances?

[@minzblatt]

It has a stable economy that is unlike most nations around not dependent on selling raw commodities such as oil which it doesn't have in amounts worth mentioning. In the last couple decades however it suffered from bad financial policies, corruption and mismanagement, which made this growth rocky to say the least. Btw. the Turkish domestic military industry is a by-product of the US imposed sanctions on Turkey after the Cyprus war in 1974 and Turks are very proud of this fact to this day with the recent renewal of sanctions linked to 5th Gen fighter jets. 2025 will be the 50th anniversary of ASELSAN, which is basically where it all started. And if we're lucky we will see the maiden flight of the first domestic fighter jet tomorrow. With a booming drone tech industry both in air and on sea (USVs), this will ultimately guarantee them superiority over most of their neighbours for the foreseeable future.

[@raphaelsasson9726]

actually, the answer is simple: borrowing. In a globalized world that has low inflation and low interest rates, Turkey has based the vast majority of its econimy on cheap forign caoital borrowing. in the past 2 years however, the Trkish economy is going through a serious crisis, and is in risk of collapsing. They are fighting hyoer inflation, and low economic activity. This is due to higher interest rates worldwide, which made borrowing much more expensive.

[@dingus6317]

Don’t they have record inflation right now?

[@j.benjamin3782]

Here's how the demographic argument about Israel's reduced power doesn't pan out: The secular birthrate is 2.2, above replacement levels, so, regardless of the seculars losing demographic dominance in the broader society, as of now they retain the absolute population trend to continue their levels of military and research contribution.

[@MrDael01]

2.1 is a very high birthrate compared to Europeans but a low birthrate compared to their middle east neighbors. It's that comparison that matters

[@TomorrowWeLive]

God willing there won't be one

[@blackberry5908]

Free earth from Israel.

[@cindybogart6062]

Peter, last month Saudi Arabia wanted the USA to give them the same type of security they give to Israel. What would happen with that? The Security is what they are looking for. The USA gives $6.5 million a year to Israel. I always wondered why that amount goes up every year! Give it to the British, they started all this.

[@shuki1]

USA gives 4.2 billion USD to Israel and Egypt since the 1982 peace treaty. For Israel, it is a nice bonus but no longer a large crutch it depends on. A small yet growing part of Israel understands this and the continued cost of this aid being the dependence on the US administration and US military products. If this aid would be reduced or stopped, Israel would be able to spend elsewhere, something Europe and Russia or CHINA would strive to win.

[@CCGNZ65]

GOOD point Cindy,the US gets a lot of blame that should be directed to the UK and the "Sun never sets on the British empire" era. Even to include China's hostility at correcting the "Century of Humiliation",which seems to get transferred to the US.

[@taliabraver]

Has anyone here actually been to Israel?Israel is one of my favorite places,dont believe everything you see on CNN!Trust me if anyone went to gaza you would last a hour,and try to get into Israel.Gaza before Oct 7 was alot nicer than alot of middle eastern countries!The Israeli people have built a powerhouse!All the nations around want to be friends with Israel.Where is one country to actually help the people of gaza?@@shuki1

[@EugeneYus]

Less than 1% of the world population and we sure do pay a lot of attention to the chosen ones

[@guydreamr]

There's plenty of other commentators with non-American perspectives for you to listen to.

[@WhyteHorse2023]

Seeing as the last of the holocaust survivors were infants at the time and are now 75+yrs old... sympathy for Jews is running out quickly in light of what's happening in Gaza. How does that saying go? You become what you hate...

[@MahkyVmedia1]

Why do I get recommended these types of videos?!

[@proffittspeaks]

One thing I find odd is Peter is clearly hiking in the summer yet this is supposedly a new video.

[@floridacoder]

America, after Israel perhaps. Israel is at serious risk of losing American support because of the war crimes. They started with strong support following the terrorist attacks in October - myself included, but bad actors lead by Netanyahu have committed attrocities impossible to ignore and impossible to support. Israel is going to find it difficult to gain new allies while they show no interest in protecting civilians. Especially from Muslim countries. The Saudis risk their own power domestically if they support Israel. Remember the Shah of Iran? The Saudi royals can lose it all if they incite a revolution.

[@maorshoval]

Well maybe the actions are difficult to support but they are not war crimes , i read the geneva convection and followed the war very closely, they follow international law , the problem is hamas not only does not, but they put civilians in harms way because they want israel to lose support. I never supported the bibi goverment but people see People dieing and automatically cry out war crimes , they should read what the international law states.

[@floridacoder]

@maorshoval deliberately bombing a refugee camp to target a single Hamas commander is by definition a war crime. Under the Geneva Convention. It's right up there with bombing a church. The attacks against ambulances, hospitals, refugee camps, and other obviously civilian targets are war crimes. Period. An Israeli spokesman admitted live on air with Wolf Blitzer to the bombing of the refugee camp, I guess not expecting Wolf and millions of others to be taken aback. The total disregard for civilian life is unacceptable and the Israeli people, of all people on this planet, should know better.

[@roywalsh9676]

I love these videos very entertaining but any relation to reality is purely by accident.

[@jamal9042]

Peter: The USA has a dozen or so military bases in the Middle East. How can they not be interested in the ME? Reconcile please.

[@Lora_Lynn]

Coming from Colorado? When? Not in December, not even October, autumn golden Aspen leaves. I'd like to know what you think today, post 7 October.

[@joeshirou]

Anyone revisit Peter’s videos and just see how wrong he is most of the time? Like it’s staggering.

[@FreedomisFree26]

I don’t think he realizes there are bugger things at play and people pulling strings that hes unaware of

[@mikedee1]

He might just be a propagandist. He’s SO polished and SO SURE of his analysis.

[@DieFlabbergast]

Yes, it's staggering how often he is right. You must be an expert at cherry-picking his statements. You are probably the type of person who does this with every Internet opinion-maker. Now, if you posted a meticulously researched breakdown of his predictions (and btw, he rarely makes specific predictions, he just points us in the general direction of LIKELIHOOD) and compared them with the actual outcomes, we might take you seriously. Otherwise, you're just a comedian.

[@housiksarkissian2491]

he is a passionate in his job, they say talk is cheap.

[@viciouswasinnocent8575]

Here ya go. Zeihan's a hack:kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqbTfmiVr613mK8si=XusrIGca-KUepQgh@@DieFlabbergast

[@kellsAC1]

Europe will be disinterested helping Israel due to the fact that the Muslim influx in European nations to such an extent, that the political processes will need to involve and actually appease the Muslim interest. In every case, Israel will need to be self sufficient and can still rely on the USA for at least another 20 years

[@ginojaco]

When was this recorded? The situation regarding Gaza isn't mentioned, and there are leaves...

[@stephenderry9488]

Peter is having a Christmas vacation. He's been building up a backlog of videos on the same theme, recorded across the year, to release over the Christmas holidays in his absence.

[@roblangsdorf8758]

The book of Judges tells of one cycle that Israel experienced a number of times in its first centuries after spending 40 years wandering in the desert: God would bless Israel. Israel would start out thanking God for the blessings. But as time went on Israel would take God's blessings for granted. So God would allow Israel to be conquered. After awhile, Israel would cry out to God. God would then provide a new hero to deliver Israel and the cycle would begin over again. At this point, is Israel trying to fight their current war in their own strength or are they looking to God for victory? What will it take to change this? When you look through Israel's history, do the alliances that Israel committed, to work out for them? What will happen in the future?

[@asha8443]

As an American, I am tired of having my taxpayer money sent to a country that commits genocide on a daily basis.

[@nate_8403]

our human rights card cant be played anymore

[@MrDamon888]

Luck of common sense is not good trait.

[@ChristopherMHeaps]

Me too.

[@syweiner434]

Yes, stop buying chinese.

[@richdobbs6595]

Apparently, you are not aware of the definition of genocide. The Palestinian population or culture aren't about to disappear. Rather, their population continues to grow at well above replacement rate and their culture of suicide bombings and rocket attacks are well established and vibrant!

[@srzar]

Can you do one for Iran? Thanks

[@leeanderson5955]

Maybe let Israel manage their own predicaments with their own money, manpower and military. Maybe the US should manage our own predicament at our southern border. The way to do that is to leverage our imports from US companies in Mexico.

[@drorjs]

In israel we are mostly concerned now about the 2 proxies of iran. Hamas and hizbolah. Hamas has been hit hard but is still standing and the current exchange with hizbolah is still only through air strikes and artillery and hasn't escalated to full war yet. This won't go on forever but "the day after" is very foggy for us at this point.

[@dave9351]

1 Hour ago "On my home trail in Colorado" ? Did spring/summer arrive & no one told me ? I'm confused Peter :) Brought some heat from the Gaza to melt all that Colorado snow ?

[@mitchellbunnell7448]

Colorado loos like a tropical paradise in Dec

[@arozentz]

Thank you Peter. Very sharp analytics!!

[@SolaceEasy]

Gaza invasion perspective missing. Failed states to the North. Economy based on globalization. Internal dissent & corruption.

[@hopposai787]

wrong. 100% wrong. i couldn't disagree more. if this was released 2 months ago i could maybe get behind it. before oct 7 saudi and isreal were in fact normalizing relations. since oct 7 and the invasion and genocide in gaza there is 0% the saudi government would or even could align with them, let alone be a protector of them.

[@wdhewson]

It's amazing to me that a 10 y old wants to be a dentist, goes after that goal, and after 25 year achieve that goal. Yet our "mature and experienced" politicians cannot "see, set, and achieve" even a medium term goal !!

[@briansullivan6448]

I like that he termed a regional war/border dispute/skirmish as something "getting very blam-y." Nice word.

[@vahanghazarian8873]

"Armenians aren''t good Christians..." Peter Zeihan This is what one of the people whom I have followed and learned from. Peter is all about the truth ,and every one whould know the TRUTH. Peter, you need to make a video and explain why you said this. Thank you.

[@Barnabasanon]

LOL! You talk like America can just retire and "live happily ever after"!! LOL! Believe me, it wont be long before America will change its mind as things start to be abit hot around their ears! We are still on planet Earth! No one can escape when shit hit the fan!

[@joewalker36]

Local Middle East conflicts really doesn’t affect us all too much

[@Flintlockon]

@@joewalker36 It will if it leads to a massive breakdown in the region and suddenly all trade ceases and the American stock market gets wrecked with all the USA companies and allies that rely on the region and the shock to the global stock trade causes a depression and every bubble to burst which considering USA debt is a pretty big one which wecks the USA economy and then the whole region goes towards China or Russia as they seek protection and secure trade and the USA loses all influence in the region and the USA becomes a regional power limited to the Americas until they also pivot toward China the same way many Asian countries had previously pivoted toward the USA in the last 50 years now they turn away from the USA and back towards home and the USA now alone as the USA can no longer protect them or care to and then the USA becomes isolated politically and economically to the North American continent where they wither as a regional power until they collapse like the Soviet Union did. The Soviet Union did not really affect the USA much but the USA fought for global dominance because it was the prospect of the USA waking up one morning to find the whole world was communist and did not care what the USA had to say about anything and everybody has nukes now so even the American military is completely worthless as it can only really operate around the world with cooperation from other nations and if they are all in a nuclear umbrella pact with China or Russia for defence the USA can do zero without risking destruction just like how the USA is tip toeing like a ballerina around Putin. It is about isolating the USA and then letting it die on it's own while noone else cares or becoming so irrelevent that anything the USA says means nothing to anyone and all that is left is all the domestic social problems that eat the USA alive while other intrests become the undisputed dominant global superpowers economically and politically and the sentiment you express is how it loses it all. It really really does affect us all.

[@manofwar2354]

​@@joewalker36you seem do not remeber what happend when king faisal stop oil for muricans You went back to stone age 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@joewalker36]

@@manofwar2354 Yea that was 50 years ago... US is a major oil exporter now. Also stone age... just a bit of an exageration lol

[@manofwar2354]

@@joewalker36 no it is a reality go look for the footage Us from long times had fuel but it doesnt depend on it

[@24525]

This guys detached from reality

[@albertan9386]

Israel costs the American tax payer millions of dollars per day. At the height of the financial crisis in 2008 and 2009, the USA was still pumping 10 million dollars per day into Israel directly. Indirect financial infusion such as underwriting Israel's military expenditures are even larger.

[@maryanncrody4867]

i think you need to understand that the politicians here cannot upset the baptist. so it is for israel

[@maryanncrody4867]

plus the preacher class does not have the education to do anything else

[@maryanncrody4867]

the baptists are a drag here too

[@thirsty4knowledge200]

@zeihan on geopolitics , you never talked about the recent China brokered peace deal between Saudi and Iran . If the plan was a fight for dominance why did the deal happen.

[@Rob_F8F]

The was to restore diplomatic relations that were severed in 2016. One of the litmus tests for the Saudis was that Iran stop arming the Houthis in Yemen. How is that going?

[@ranradd]

Thanks Peter, that was a great review!

[@NaProbablyNot]

This assumes that all the children of orthodox families will also be orthodox. That has never been the case. Many go reform or secular over time.

[@stalbaum]

Appeciate your analysis. What I think you don't account for is this: while U.S. policy is changing, withdrawing, true; we are also kind of emotionally stupid and will get reinvolved over, racism, anti-muslim sentiment, one of our merchant marine ships sinks with a chihuahua on it, veterans get an anger hardon for some reason, mexican cartels, almost anything. We are going to be in and out, more half-assed or arbitrary than disengaged. It is not really post American. It is more of a selective and unpredictable America.

[@NerdlySquared]

I like this analysis, it rings true. But it also probably underestimates the amount of balkanization that’s virtually guaranteed to come down the line and the inward focus that will come with it.

[@kevinpritchard3592]

Very interesting analysis today.

[@khalidmn9821]

Story finished since octobre 7th

[@DonJDawson]

Thanks Peter

[@j.w.8663]

I was about to say...Why is it so green now in Colorado!...Then I read the description.😮

[@sirguy6678]

It’s always fun to watch Peter try to read the future with his “magic 🎱 ball” - it’s a lot of informed guesses- but it briefs well…

[@Nalololol]

Chinese bot👆

[@terryhoath1983]

The big question is this. Is America (Will America be) DISinterested or UN/NOT interested ? Not quite the same thing. Peter doesn't seem to understand China. If the crunch comes, BECAUSE IT HAS GOT ITS' POPULATION UNDER CONTROL, China has all the food and all the energy that it needs. There are many keys to the Chinese economic miracle but birth rate reduction was absolutely vital .... 37,000,000 Americans living in abject poverty and that poverty concentrated among the breeders. Children do not sow, neither do they reap. They merely consume.As most American are a bit squeamish about child labour, children are parasites upon the economy. We are right to be amazed at the Chinese economic miracle. We also have reason to fear China. What will the American politicians do if China seizes Taiwan ? What if China ignores Taiwan seeing it as too much of a porcupine for the time being and goes for the Philippines. Failure to support the Philippines will be about as stupid as the current failure to support Ukraine adequately. What if, because of American stupidity, the newly gung-ho Russians take over Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan and then take a nibble at a few Aleutians ?.... What when the Chinese come sniffing around Wake Island ? Americans should understand that if it had not been for Britain and France holding out against Nazism for 9 months and then Britain alone for a further 17 months, long before December 1941, there would have been some brave Americans fighting a guerilla campaign in the Appalachians and Cascade Mountains, but, the USA east of the Mississippi would have been Amerika Ost, certain areas of New York having high barbed wire fences around them .... the USA to the West, would have had an unintelligible name. As we saw in December 1941, despite the efforts of Billy Mitchell, the USA did not have an air force worthy of the name and Pearl Harbour(Pearl Harbor) demonstrates military incompetence that was almost beyond belief. With regard to Ukraine, stupid and pig-ignorant Republicans are belly-aching about the cost but all the USA has done so far is open up some garden sheds on some military bases, dragged out some rusty lawnmowers and old scythes, sent this junk to Ukraine, to make room for far more sophisticated sit-on petrol lawnmowers and combine harvesters, the US high command unable to disguise their dribbling as they salivate over the latest John Deere, Mountfield and Mitsubishi kit. On the face of it, F16s seem pretty juicy but they are NOT exactly F35s .... are they ?

[@robertdole5391]

This needs an update

[@Oscarrrrrrrrrrr]

Hey Peter, what microphone setup do you use here? I see a small device attached to your phone and the sound is quite good!

[@jdee8407]

When that Turkish government minister had a heart attack live on TV after saying "Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah" probably softened their stance on Israel.

[@emirergun1474]

He was an MP from a small conservative party, called Saadet. Not minister

[@harun776]

I’m not so optimistic for Israel without America..

[@HC20047]

Where do you see the US foreign policy doctrine heading over the next couple of decades? There is a standoff in the congress regarding Ukraine, yet we see the US navy policing the Red Sea to enable transit for trade vessels and sending additional carrier groups into the western mediterranean, so in some way we can still rely on the US to get the rest of us out of the tight spots that we can't help ourselves to construct. Will we be on our own (spoken as a European and a Swede) in, let's say, 2040? Also, the "end of China as a nation" would be interesting to hear you elaborate on.

[@ShadiRahall-z6f]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@blaisemorris1301]

How that Ukraine war going now, you seem pretty quiet on that front?

[@tavuzzipust7887]

This is from before 7th October and needs to be totally revised.

[@nathanroberts3470]

Were you by chance eating lunch today in Downtown Denver at West Saloon & Kitchen? I think i might have seen you. Didnt want to bother you at lunch

[@darrylhalden1948]

you need a very strong intuition to glimpse what will happen - knowing history and politics etc etc is only ever looking in the rear vision mirror

[@timbargoti602]

Good Question about Zeihan's posting it today when he obviously had filmed this pre Oct 7th .. I think Peter is trying to say that the only way out for the Israelies in post Oct 7 is to make peace with The Saudies. BUT HOW : ? well go back to pre 1967 lines more or less .. and Isrselis and Arabs can march hand in hand into the future . There is no other way .. is what is implied here

[@cantan111]

@Zeihan what would you invest in if you are me & u were in America.

[@edinkaimovic1539]

Maybe Instead looking for security guarantor better option may be changing politics

[@captdawn]

On the dole? The Orthodox Jewish families have working mothers. Highly educated working mothers contributing significantly as the sole breadwinners. With large families, you know they are relying on housekeepers and nannies and tutors, which means they are creating jobs for others. On top of overseeing intense religious education. These women work in tech, medicine, research, etc. Israel has amazing driven contributors! Orthodox Jewish families are not all sucking up welfare... Please also remember that Israel helps allllll it's citizens, including Sunni, Shia, and Druze muslims and Christian Arabs. Seriously, it's the ONLY country in the Middle East where there is real freedom. And opportunity.

[@ERizzo5]

Free 🇵🇸

[@tonyoostendarp7611]

Excellent insights

[@ridvanyavuz5030]

How many days would you give Israel on the map if America stops backing up or no power any more in the middle east.?

[@BESTINTHEWORLD0007]

8 years

[@barneyfife291]

Thanks

[@larryhand7219]

Where are you in Colorado? It’s December and you are walking without a coat and the trees are leafing out. Looks like spring.

[@marksienicki1253]

Pass

[@marycollins8215]

Thank you.

[@xchazz86]

Yup, usually when you allow unjust advantages to one social clique they tend to get more entitled and significantly more unproductive. This only widens the gap with the rest of population and leads to pretty rapid social disintegration. Any policy that unfairly widens the social gap is self terminal, period. No religion required.

[@Shineon83]

Filmed in the spring-according to the greenery

[@ehulbert5]

That is not Colorado in December.

[@GJWielinga]

Wow, it's so green where you are!

[@sitbestill8480]

The animosity between the Turks and Iranians is much older, deeper and visceral than many could comprehend, shame because Iran is a much better fit with the West than either Turks or Arabs.

[@dvoravithanovsky6902]

You should be the secretary of state!!!!!!!

[@ShadowOfMoria]

what about the current gaza situation?

[@chrispinchak1511]

Why does it look like spring where you are?

[@tuttlespeachtree3413]

Peter Zeihan is giving us all subtle lessons in counter intelligence. Only communicate sensitive information in areas where there is guaranteed to be nobody else listening or recording, like the mountains of Colorado.

[@jeffbeck8993]

Or he's just a space cadet. Colorado is a magnet for them but nowhere near Arizona and New Mexico.

[@Mohika881]

Interesting but missed a couple of points and options. Firstly, Iran, Iraq and Syria are far more populous that Saudi Arabia and Israel. That is likely to be a factor in any conflagration in the future. Secondly, Israel could make peace with Palastinians by creating a two state solution to 1967 borders. It could then sign peace treaties with most of its neighbours. This would change the view of the Arab populations and dissuade hostile regimes from acting. Peaceful coexistence is the safest option for all.

[@alana523]

Agree with the Haredis becoming a problem. They should not be exempt

[@apollothirteen9236]

The American working class and the working poor need to be taxed more to meet the financial needs of the Federal Government and it's allied nations. High income earners and the wealthy are taxed enough. It's not fair to put anymore of a burden on them.