Israel’s Role in Sabra and Shatila

[@UNPACKED]

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[@kaus3587]

G’day from a Lebanese born Australian. During the Israeli occupation my in-laws neighbours were travelling through Bhamdoun and were stopped and detained by a Phalange checkpoint. They being Druze were going to be slaughtered along with approximately 10 others. Along came an Israeli patrol, the Israeli officer asked the Phalange what was going on and the response with laughter was we have some Bulls to slaughter that being their nickname for Druze people. The Israeli officer was enraged and slapped the Phalnge leader and screamed, I am a Bull as well do you want to slaughter me as well. Both sides drew weapons and all the civilians were released and it was told to all.

[@kaus3587]

Peace with Israel not terrorists.

[@dovidysiroel3751]

​@@kaus3587 israel is a terrorist state full of neo-naszi zionist jewish supremacists terrorists.

[@josephswabe5584]

That’s a canard

[@realolivertwisted]

This video is nothing but a PACK OF LIES!! Maybe *that’s* what you should call your channel, Mr. HASBARIST!!

[@TheAli2718]

So not a bad video but a few corrections: 1) IDF has admitted that their soldiers close to Shatilla and Sabra not only knew about the massacre, but some were pushing the phalangists to go back and commit more massacres. They did not report it up the chain as was IDF Protocol. 2) Begin, Sharon, and Eitan (aka Raful as he was more commonly known) were all aware of what was going on. Phalangists primary contact was Sharon so we can't really say he wasn't involved. 3) The inquiry into the massacre was limited in scope, and even they found errors on the IDF Part 4) I speak as someone who has intimate knowledge in this affair, in times of War the unspeakable happens but we need to admit mistakes and not whitewash things. Those responsible should be held to account and just because they are "Elitest" doesn't mean they should avoid prosecution.

[@TheAli2718]

Also when I speak of Elitest I am referring to Sharon and Raful who basically blamed the lower ranks of the IDF and walked of scot free

[@GhassanB]

@@TheAli2718 you're absolutely right!! And the way that the responsibility is dissipated publicly is sick... If it's not the Palestinians fault then it's the fault of the mizrahi officers who are second class and who's families are living in ghettos in israel. I'm curious; How do you think these commanders should have been held responsible? Why do you think the video is not bad when it completely blames these accountabilities away from leadership (just like pretty much all other Israeli state sponsored misinformation)?

[@benavraham4397]

The Lebanese men who committed the the massacre were given official amnesty from the government of Lebanon.

[@monafairy99]

thank you. honestly watching the part where he said the IDF was unaware was hard to believe.

[@Fee.1]

What sort of “Intimate knowledge”

[@Resalovesyou]

I love how you taught us about desirability bias and then clearly demonstrates it 😂

[@quratulainchattha3321]

100%

[@unisophia]

BS. it’s just that the facts don’t suit your desirability bias. it’s ok. your crowd never takes responsibility for anything, despite that you are aware of the positive value of doing so.

[@abc_cba]

Why does nobody mention who it all started with PLO terrorists threatening and killing Maronite Christians ?

[@yosefzanerva806]

Because that doesn't justify what eventually happened. While the PLO were terrorists, and committed horrific atrocities against the Maronites, that doesn't justify the horror that transpired. Can't say I blame them, though. They were angry. They had suffered much at the hands of the PLO.

[@dogbert52]

And the damour mass acre..... :/

[@male3399]

The malicious entity came out of nowhere and destabilized an entire region. If it had not displaced the Palestinians, the PLO would not have existed and would not have destroyed the demographics and security of Lebanon.

[@male3399]

The malicious entity came out of nowhere and destabilized an entire region.. If it had not displaced the Palestinians, the PLO would not have existed and would not have destroyed the demographics and security of Lebanon...

[@wrestlinginfodude2644]

So maronite Christians groups were not terrorist? Stop your hypocrisy and double standard,and atleast plo had more moral high ground than idf and isreal government

[@DoomGaming999]

You made this seem much much nicer then it was....

[@HM-rz8nv]

Because he's a Hasbara propagandist and Genocide apologist

[@Reptiloid5g]

Only strong society can take responsibility for its mistakes. Only society that take responsibility for its mistakes has a future.

[@mikefruge8589]

Are you referring to Israel? The Zionist state that never takes responsibility until the evidence forces them to? Have you ever heard of the USS Liberty? Has Israel ever admitted to this murder of these US Navy servicemen? What about Palestinian American Journalist Shireen Abu Akleh. Murdered in cold blood in broad daylight by an Israeli soldier. Add her name to the list of the many journalists shot and killed by the Zionist state over the past several decades.

[@baseball56765]

Correct that is why israel has a future. The day the Palestinians apologize will bring a tremendous step forward toward peace

[@Reptiloid5g]

@@baseball56765 Unfortunately I don't see it happen in a foreseeable future

[@baseball56765]

@@Reptiloid5g agreed, so we continue to be stuck :/

[@smanku121]

Need to have social values to be considered a society. Otherwise you keep getting whipped by your dad and then you whip your kids. Or the people that live where you decide to plonk back up

[@yonikatz3513]

It seems Israel’s biggest mistake was trusting others to do the right thing. Israel seems to prefer to work alone in recent history. Maybe this is one of the reasons why.

[@the2ndcoming135]

Yeah, I figured I’d keep it simple on that subject. We all got laundry day anyway😁

[@Zarghaam12]

Nonsense! Israel is a Zionist, imperialist project and without western imperialism it would exist! Christian Zionism is even older than Jewish Zionism, in case you didn't know and made Israel possible. The Europeans have a 2000 year history of Jew-hate that eventually resulted in he Holocaust ON EUROPEAN SOIL BY EUROPEANS - THE PALESTINIANS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, AND MOST THE PALESTINIANS ARE DESCENDED FROM BIBLICAL JEWS!!

[@yonikatz3513]

@@Zarghaam12 Miss your meds today?

[@ahmedabousaad841]

If the Israelis were so innocent, then why they prevented people who were getting massacredred from leaving , why they didn't intervene and why they shot illuminating flares for the christian criminals to able to continue the massacre, look there was wittneses that testified that Ariel Sharon was watching the massacre from a watch tower near by , and why the Americans who gave guarantees to the plo , if you leave Lebanon the refugees will not be harmed . It was ordered by the Israelis and Eli Hubeiqa the head of the criminals said was ordered by sharon to commit the massacre and he was going to testify in front of the ICC when he was assassinated.

[@PourPistache]

Hahah for real ? Israel is patting itself of the back for doing the bare minimum to recognize their responsibilities in the massacre of refugees. Refugees they created by their previous operations. And you only see a trust issue ? Hahahahahahahahahahahaga

[@faradpack]

Lokhman Slim and Monika Borgman's Massaker, based on 90 hours of interviews with the LF soldiers who participated in the massacre, gives the participants' memories of how they were drawn into the militia, trained with the Israeli army and unleashed on the camps to take revenge for the murder of Bashir Gemayel. The motivations are varied, from blaming beatings from their fathers in childhood, the effects of the brutalization of war, obedience to one's leaders, a belief that the camp women would breed future terrorists, and the idea three quarters of the residents were terrorists. Others spoke of their violence without traces of repentance.[

[@johnmeskill2015]

I am trying to find this documentary and cannot find it anywhere.

[@carlosacta8726]

Sabra and Shatila was a terrible and obscene event. Yet the media never explore why the Phalange committed such an atrocity. Palestinians had massacred Christians in their homes and villages. This was a horrific and unmentionable period.

[@az1az2az4]

Nope, Sabra and Shatila took place after the murder of Bachir Gemayel by the Mujahdeen or the PLO. Stop with the none sense and stop justifying killing 3500 people in retaliation of 1. The PLO holds great responsibility the civil war and all the hard times the Lebanon faced, but that doesn't justify the massacre.

[@carlosacta8726]

@@az1az2az4 Nothing justified Sabra and Shatila. Just as nothing justified Damour, Batroun, and countless Christian villages.

[@The30115]

Yes. Still doesn't exclude Israel's role in this.

[@dogbert52]

@@carlosacta8726 oil money controls the media. Always did and always will.

[@ravenmusic6392]

@@carlosacta8726 Israel is a nation state and is going to be held to a higher standard than a militia group, that's just obvious

[@Lukas-qu6ur]

My Grandmothers entire family were brutally killed by Palestinians that invaded Lebanon. 🇱🇧❤️🇮🇱

[@thestruggleisallthatmatter8833]

Lies 🐖💨🇮🇱

[@R0DBS2]

I wish peace upon you 🇮🇱🇱🇧☮️

[@QueerCapricorn6572]

Shutup Cannibal Crusader

[@jppp-ou1of]

@@QueerCapricorn6572 you shut up big dog

[@jppp-ou1of]

god bless you and sorry for your loss im lebanese too

[@philippk819]

Of course the massacres in Sabra and Shatila also were the only [Edit: of the several massacres of the Lebanese civil war] that created an international outcry and are remembered.

[@jamaldarweesh3021]

Same way only the Jewish holocaust is mentioned and nothing about the gypsies ;)

[@philippk819]

@@aj-zt8br I was referring to the context of the video and only meant massacres commited during the Lebanese civil war. What I meant: Out of several massacres committed during the Lebanese civil war, the only one creating an outcry outside Lebanon and being remembered was the one that got some connection to Israel...

[@philippk819]

@@aj-zt8br yeah right. That must be the reason. Do you have some more jokes on your mind?

[@שומרישראל-ח3ו]

@@philippk819 its because islam and christianity share a common feeling called the Hate of Jews, they know it and Almighty G.D knows it

[@joshualittle877]

@@aj-zt8br Why? It is the only Western Democracy in the region. Name another Iran is not a Democracy neither is Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Iraq under the US was moving in that direction but who knows now. Name another.

[@MrBoazhorribilis]

Sabra and Shatila are the results of the Damour massacre. It cannot be explained in isolation. It is like trying to explain WW2 without starting with the events following WW1.

[@skp8748]

Or explaining the Holocaust without the international collusion of Zionist and the Jewish Zionist congress based in Germany backing the Allys ww1.

[@MrBoazhorribilis]

@@skp8748 what you posted has nothing to do with the subject matter. For your info, German Jews, a lot of them Zionists, died in disproportionately large numbers fighting and dying for their country where they lives for more than a thousand years. Will not get into the fine details but simply use a search engine and enter "German Jews in WW1" and get all the good stuff. Here is how Wikipedia starts on the subject: ---------- "An estimated 100,000 German Jewish military personnel served in the German Army during World War I, of whom 12,000 were killed in action. The Iron Cross was awarded to 18,000 German Jews during the war.[1]

[@skp8748]

@@MrBoazhorribilis did Britain not collude with Jews to sway Russian Jews to stay in the war? Did not count on Jewish Americans to sway Roosevelt to enter the war? Did the Zionist congress not relocate from Germany? When it came to post war settlements did the Jews not begin emigration on British occupied Palestine whilst Germany was gutted?

[@MrBoazhorribilis]

@@skp8748 You are still prevaricating and not addressing the subject matter of this discussion. Here are some facts: --- Britain did no collude with the Jews or Russia . Russian Jews were in no position to determine the acts of the Soviet Army during WW2. ---- Roosevelt entered WW2 after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. It had nothing to do with Jews. ---- The Zionist Congress took place in Basel Switzerland because of some internal disagreements among the German Jews. As a result, the congress was moved from Munich to Basel. ---- After WW2 ended with the Holocaust and the murder of 6 million European Jews, Israel was established and became a member of the UN. Jews from all over the world had the right to emigrate to the State of the Jews. The end. ..... And yes, ISRAEL LIVES

[@skp8748]

@@MrBoazhorribilis I talked about ww1 don't misquote or misdirect.

[@acejones6110]

crazy how this is still occuring to the Palestinians. they need their own state

[@unisophia]

who needs what?

[@Omkuskom]

if they would agree to any of the previous partition plans they'd already have it. if they have been more peaceful maybe that would have been easier as well..

[@KevinGallant10]

I mean they operate as a terrorist state. If the Palestinians put their guns down their would be peace. If the jew put their guns down you have a 2nd holocaust...

[@randyflores2411]

What I find absurd is trying to justify something that horrible.

[@NarnianLady]

A small correction: The Chief of Staff at that time was Rafael Eitan. (also known as Raful). Rafi Eitan was a Mossad agent who helped to find and bring Eichmann to justice 🙂

[@ahmedabousaad841]

Yes it can proved , they shot the flares to enable the criminals to continue the massacre , the US gave the PLO guarantees that if you leave , the camps will be protected, the Israelis turned away survivors and prevented them from leaving the camps , witnesses testified that they saw Ariel Sharon watching the massacres from a near by watch tower and the main witness against Sharon ( Eli hubeiqa ) was assassinated 2 days before testifying him in the Hague . So please dont try to cover the Israeli responsibility for the crime , Ariel Sharon ordered the massacre, the American government that gave guarantees for the safety of the Palestinian civilians and the Christian fascist that committed were all responsible.

[@ahmedabousaad841]

He should bring himself to justice , at least this massacre is a proven act of genocide , unlike the holly hoax .

[@goldball9916]

40 uninterrupted hours the attack continued from thursday september 16th to sunday the idf learned of the atrocities as early as thursday evening but chose to do nothing and allowed it to continue the

[@josiel152]

very well thought out report enjoyed learning what that war was about and the horrible massacre which I recall being broadcased on American TV. Too bad TV never broadcast the the PLO massacre, as far as I remember, of 4000 people at a later date.

[@faradpack]

Israel trained, Armed and transported the killers. Just Wikipedia

[@MBEG89]

How about mentioning that the PLO attacked first, so in revenge the christians attacked them back. Lebanon let it go for a reason.

[@SJR_Media_Group]

And the Truth shall set you Free

[@RitaNathaniel]

@monika he literally didn't do it, he didn't say anything bad about Poland. You rather seem to be uneducated and don't understand him. He just compared the situation the Jewish mother was in and the fact that she suffocated her child because she was trying to hide and stay quiet to the countless similar situations Jewish mothers went through during the Holocaust in Poland because of the German terror apparatus. We all know Poland was under German rule and occupation back then, and Germans forced these situations, so it's not about Poland being bad per se, but about the situation being bad for Jews in Poland's territory, and situations like this happening, and they were happening, the same situations. There are countless documented stories from the WWII period in Poland, describing how Jewish mothers, hiding, killed their newborn children - by accident or on purpose, because they were trying to survive, often entire families of people were in such hiding places, and little baby crying could have revealed their hiding place to the Germans. So he compared the situations accurately, that's all. And I'm Polish from Poland, btw.

[@xiaochaozhou6241]

i never see a more self-righteous liar like unpacked

[@benavraham4397]

Who killed the refugees in Sabra and Shetila? It was Lebanese Christians who did all the killing. They are people with names, families and addresses. They are not mindless animals. They did it because their people had been murdered by the Palestinians. The Palestinians murdered Christians and the Christians killed Palestinians in revenge. Make a video about Lebanese🇱🇧✝️ Christians and leave Israel out of it!

[@alangervasis]

Well, if you jewish israeli colonisers hadn't commtted atrocities against palestinians and thrown them out of their homeland and made them refugees in lebanon, none of this would have occured. You cannot wash your hands and leave without taking accountability. Your invaders are still building settlements after demolishing palestinian homes and making more refugees. So stop the hypocrisy.

[@benavraham4397]

@@alangervasis Go back further. The Levant had been all Christian, and Muslim armies conquered them and made them like Indians in America. The Arabs should have stayed in Arabia, and now that the original Levantines are asserting themselves (including Jews) the Arabs should learn from liberal white Americans and step back and consider reparations for invading and colonizing the Levant🇱🇧🇮🇱.

[@benavraham4397]

@@alangervasis It's a funny thing. Until the 1990's, most of the Israeli were from Arab countries☪️, just like Itamar Ben-Gvir's family🇮🇶, and the single largest group of Israelis were Moroccan🇲🇦 Jewish Israelis. So, Israelis were mostly Jews who had never left the Middle East. They simply gathered to together in one place, Israel🇮🇱. That is why there are so few Jews✡️ in the Arab lands today. They are all in Israel🇮🇱 now.

[@ravenmusic6392]

They SLA would not have made the progress it did in the conflict if it wasn't for Israel, and Israels intervention In 82 shifted the local force balance in their favour. If you arm a militia with tanks and guns then look on as it massacres hundreds of civilians, you are implicated in that. Israel has never had success intervening in Lebanon, everything between 82 and 06 has been a disaster politically and militarily for them

[@benavraham4397]

@@ravenmusic6392 The Muslims had Christian blood on their hands and got back what they had given. Funny thing is, the Lubavitcher Rebbe said that Israel should illuminate the PLO, and leave Lebanon immediately. The secularist Israeli government ignored the Rebbe, and spared the PLO, and stayed in Lebanon for the next 18 years, (just to show how stupid they are). The Rebbe absolutely opposed Israel giving land away.They ignored him, and today Egypt is running a cold war against Israel, and rockets are being shot from Gaza to Tel-Aviv.

[@toseeornot2see]

The charter from 1964 needs to be read in the context of the Nakba, which was the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, that had just taken place in 1947/48.

[@inmyopinion651]

What punishment did the two men found responsible receive?

[@johnmarks9994]

Israel was not only involved but Ariel Sharon gave the order, with the IDF used as a blocking force.

[@Anverse-14]

Asking. It is great and all that the Sabra and Shatila massacre is acknowledged and treated as civilized as it should be, but something needs to be asked. What have the Israeli done to compensate the victims and living survivors of the Massacre? Or is that Lebanon's problem? You can't really expect pulling down Sharon as some kind of a moral victory when the victims is still left behind, only surviving with the consequences of the IDF's actions. Again, what has been done more than just sacking the defense minister and few other generals? Because if that is the case, then it'll just be a pat in the back for the moral argument of Israeli awareness of this tragic chapter.

[@GhassanB]

Nothing has been done. In fact, to say the government failed to hold the perpetrators accountable is an understatement, on the contrary, Israel is proud the actions of the IDF have effectively been rewarded. Sharon eventually became prime minister, and many others involved gained serious prestige like he did. The victims and their descendants have lived at least 2 more violent invasions from Israel into Lebanon after this, and Palestinians in Lebanon are still subject to ghettoization and exclusion, and most are stateless until today as Lebanon has refused to naturalize the refugee community.

[@zer0875]

Begin was a terrorist and became a PM and Sharon (who has no like for Palestinians) wasn't exactly going to stop the killings. Fact is Israel had the responsibility on the ground as the PLO fighters agreed to leave. Clearly Israel is to blame.

[@carlossanchezatiquipa6901]

lei que los testigos de la masacre vieron personas extrañas entre los falangistas, que parecian hablar ingles y frances y que varios perpetradores reconocen que los israelies los habian entrenado y dado armas para la masacre

[@emiliobello2538]

Waltz With Bashir anyone?

[@leftoo4u]

You are just trying justifying Massacre . It’s a worst and worst thing can be done by any Vbloger

[@Gamla123]

My friend was a medic on one of the missile ships off the coast. He saw the flares. Didn't think anything of it. It's very hard to prove who knew what and when.

[@goldball9916]

1982 israel invades lebanon and surrounds the capital of beirut a major siege begins on the city with 400 tanks 1 000 artillery guns airstrikes and navy ships pummeling the city destroying 500 buildings followed by intense saturation bombing, israel shuts off the city's water and power supply for days, on september 14th the christian president of lebanon and israel's allie bashir gemiel is assassinated, israeli defense minister ariel sharon instructs the idf to allow the lebanese christian phalanges militia to quote "clean out the refugee camps at sabra and chatilla" "we are going to mop up west beirut..." -IDF General Raphael Eitan These camps mostly housed unarmed women children and elderly people after the idf surrounded the camps and disarmed the lebanese militias, the phalanges entered sabra chatilla for 40 uninterrupted hours the militants began a terrible slaughter using guns knives and axes israeli figures put the number of victims at 800 but the palestinian red crescent estimated as many as 2000 people perish, the attack continued from thursday september 16th to sunday the idf learned of the atrocities as early as thursday evening but chose to do nothing and allowed it to continue the israeli invasion of lebanon would eliminate 15k-20k lebanese civilians and palestinian refugees "as i watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occured to me to punish the unjust the same way: to destroy towers in America" -Osama bin Laden I'm only here to spread truth and not make angry arguments.

[@yoelrappaport5991]

​@@goldball9916then don't lie. The plo and later Hezbollah's main tactics are to use young civilians as their troops and hide inside civilian areas (just like hamas today), making a war with them seem like it's Israel vs civilians even tho they are completely responsible for endangering so many civilians who got hurt in the end.

[@YawnyCatBird]

I'm a Christian who grew up angry about the Sabra and Shatila massacre, not because I have any personal connection, but from reading about the events on Wikipedia. In my opinion, this was an event heightened by political tensions. Thanks for this video. No, I do not blame Israel.

[@ahmedabousaad841]

You Christians are as fascist as the Israelis , even worse to this day Christians refuse to take responsibility for it and bring the criminals to justice , to the contrary all the fascists that committed it were given government posts , both Israel and its fascist Christian Lebanese allies were involved in the massacres at the highest levels.

[@RRG932]

Don't listen to those lies

[@user-jp3tp7fv1s]

they were occupying lebanon at the time and surrounded the camps and let the phalangists commit the genocide as they watched.. (according to witnesses and the phalangist themselves) Ariel Sheron was found guilty, elie hobeika was on his way to testify on sheron's role but died in a car bomb like a dog before he couldve.. connect the dots

[@zeroounce8874]

That’s their secret service tactics- shoot at christians then shoot at muslims and tell them the other side started.

[@jimmycricket7385]

You do know that wikipedia is edited by Israelis, don't you?

[@thomasellner6331]

This has nothing to do with Israel , it was lebanese killing Lebanese in a civil war .

[@GhassanB]

Ye.... IDF only watched happily, lit the way, and kept help out for days.

[@GhassanB]

Def clean hands 👌

[@djl5634]

@@GhassanB well they chose the side who wasn't hell bent on Jewish genocide. Eye for a eye. That's the way of the region. The only thing they will understand.

[@tsunzulu1823]

@@GhassanB you know what's the PlO killed thousands of Maronite Christians without reason. It was these Christians who opened up Lebanon for these Muslims, and in return they backstab. Islam has ruined the middle east.

[@carlosacta8726]

Of course not....Of course not...nothing ever has aaanything to do with Israel!!!!

[@lj7780]

palestinian children were put in schools run by UN with over 45 children per class and 1 teacher who was so now and then in the classroom, outside were the children severly bullied by lebanese police and army, palestinians were not allowed to contruct a proper sewing system and did not get permission for roofs other then iron Corrugated sheets, which was freezing cold in winter and bloody hot in summer, the libanese have devided the christians on one side and moslims on another side with lebanese police at checkpoint between and there was a constant curfew, after 8 pm nobody was allowed to get out, also food suply suffered, Palestinians had to sneak in food with risk of being shot, what is difference with Gaza ?

[@parrotraiser6541]

Israel is on the side of truth, and vice versa.

[@skp8748]

How can an imperial colonial project be in the side of truth?

[@varoth465]

@@skp8748 Get meds

[@R0DBS2]

@@skp8748 if Israel was imperialist it wouldn't have strived towards peace with Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Bahrain and several other nations

[@dovidysiroel3751]

Zionist neo-naszi jewish terrorists are never on the side of truth, they are masters of propaganda and have a PhD in deception.

[@ahmedabousaad841]

Israel is a colony made up of fake foreign settlers that have no right to exist , can you explain how could a colony be on the side of the truth , if its existence is based on lies, give the land back to it's people you theives and leave .

[@colinstephenson5454]

You didn't mention any names of those in the Phalange responsible - Eli Hobeka for example Also I would be very interested to be given a reliable source of the massacre of 4000 Palestinians in Shatila in 1985

[@colinstephenson5454]

Oh & thank you good presentation as ever

[@tomerschubert2095]

Well them being responsible goes without saying, they were the ones committing the massacre

[@carlosacta8726]

Eli Hobeika's wife was raped and murdered by the PLO.

[@stevesinclair4159]

it never happened its pure PLO fantasy

[@damephisto]

Nice storytelling...

[@Dischordian]

Asfar as I understand it the Phalangists marched from Isreali territory and training camps under the protection of the IOF while the IOF bombarded the camps and phalangusts carried out the massacre...the idea that this was arranged by Lebanon is utterly absurd.

[@wingofshu]

Look up bombing if the king David hotel in 1946 in Palestine

[@stevesinclair4159]

You forgot to call us Jews " Christ Killers "

[@whyjay9959]

Bombing a military headquarters, how terrible.

[@s123-v3x]

The Jews kill soldiers The brave Palestinians are killing civilians

[@yoelrappaport5991]

The king David hotel bombing was only to send a message to the Brits with a warning note so no civilians would get hurt, the British ignored the warning leading to civilian deaths.

[@LubisR-qs7gu]

Once liar, forever liar.

[@elcamionero1200]

They knew everything. And very soon they will pay the price for their complicity!

[@raykirkham5357]

I THINK UNHINGED WOULD BE A BETTER NAME FOR YOUR CHANNEL.

[@Dischordian]

100%

[@realolivertwisted]

😆🤣 PERFECT!!! Nothing but LIES & HASBARA!!

[@mdog111]

Interesting anlysis but if your aim is to genuinely educate casual viewers, why have you failed to mention why there was such a large contingent of Palestinian refugees in southern Lebanon in the first place and why the PLO had such an antagonistic attitude towards Israel?

[@גרשוןפרלמן]

Simply put, they tried to wipe out the Jews of Israel and lost. They then tried to take over Jordan. There too they lost. Then they tried to take over Lebanon, the Lebanese Christians fought them, but in the end, they won.

[@AwfulDog1]

And the large number of Palestinian Moslem refugees? Didn’t they come from Israel bd were pushed out by the Jews?

[@yoelrappaport5991]

They tried wiping out the Jews and the Jews with some logic I guess didn't want them near them, leading to kicking them out of the land.

[@PamelaVacaru]

You are lying 😂😂😂

[@mottyk8491]

Menachem Began is a true Israeli hero

[@awadhalabi9172]

He was a fascist and terrorist wanted by the British for killing civilians and he used to give the fascist salute

[@rayboustan8744]

how did this shining democracy punish the man responsible for this abhorrent massacre? elected him PM

[@goldball9916]

Wait but killing children in gaza yom kippur can cleanse? 7:40

[@yakov95000]

Gentiles kill Gentiles and they blame the Jews...Btw Sharon was framed.

[@mikeyc.1979]

why would Menachim Begin, a terrorist, want to prevent such an atrocity when he was involved with and committed many similar attrocities himself?

[@yosikama2611]

Typically, the focus would be on whoever committed the crime. And since this was a set of two massacres, it's pretty unusual that the initial act is completely ignored. I wonder if there's any serious investigation of the entire event.

[@NikkoYM]

Fergal Keane did investigative journalism for BBC's Panorama in 2001 ("The Accused"). I was lucky enough to be able to watch it somehow online years ago. Now, I can't find it anywhere. There are transcripts of it out there. Just be aware, if you read the transcript - (cw) graphic descriptions of graphic violence. The program consists of various testimonies.

[@Yorkish8]

To understand the conflict you have to go to 1948 while establishing the "Isreal" state 750000 Palestinians and 450+ of their villages where burn to the ground,fast forward to 1964 when the PLO was established to resist against injustice. Imaging someone investigating there own crime, nothing could be more bias. Democracy for the Jews and apartheid for the Arab so called Isrealis.

[@albertomanopla3346]

exelente vision

[@MuniS90]

How many difficult moments we will see , how many commissions of guilt or innocence we have seen over time , the ultimate end goal of all this “ accountability” is result of peace , coexistence and no killing of cilvilains . Unfortunately that goal remains elusive to say the least . So I agree , it is important to self critique , but that critique must change behavior . Is goal achieved? Has behavior changed . We are seeing another event unfolding in Gaza that will soon need tohave an “ accountability commission” . So does the previous ones have changed anything on ground ? 34000 and counting 10X the size of Shatila !!!!

[@yosefgreen3130]

Progroms that we’re gonna be against the Hebrew population that definition is always only used for the Hebrew population so you’re twisting Menachem Begin‘s words

[@goldball9916]

1982 israel invades lebanon and surrounds the capital of beirut a major siege begins on the city with 400 tanks 1 000 artillery guns airstrikes and navy ships pummeling the city destroying 500 buildings followed by intense saturation bombing, israel shuts off the city's water and power supply for days, on september 14th the christian president of lebanon and israel's allie bashir gemiel is assassinated, israeli defense minister ariel sharon instructs the idf to allow the lebanese christian phalanges militia to quote "clean out the refugee camps at sabra and chatilla" "we are going to mop up west beirut..." -IDF General Raphael Eitan These camps mostly housed unarmed women children and elderly people after the idf surrounded the camps and disarmed the lebanese militias, the phalanges entered sabra chatilla for 40 uninterrupted hours the militants began a terrible slaughter using guns knives and axes israeli figures put the number of victims at 800 but the palestinian red crescent estimated as many as 2000 people perish, the attack continued from thursday september 16th to sunday the idf learned of the atrocities as early as thursday evening but chose to do nothing and allowed it to continue the israeli invasion of lebanon would eliminate 15k-20k lebanese civilians and palestinian refugees "as i watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occured to me to punish the unjust the same way: to destroy towers in America" -Osama bin Laden

[@dylanwhodiesalot5690]

Someone please teach this man how to say yallah

[@GhassanB]

Why? So he can be better at appropriating my culture? After stealing my land, identity and even my food with a rifle, now my language? 👀

[@dylanwhodiesalot5690]

@@GhassanB spoken like someone who has no idea about Israeli culture. Is it proper for me to claim all arabs in israel are appropriating my culture for speaking Hebrew? No, that would be ridiculous. Grow up

[@GhassanB]

@@dylanwhodiesalot5690 they don't take Hebrew with a rifle... They speak it out of necessity to be allowed to live as second class citizens in an ethnostate

[@GhassanB]

@@dylanwhodiesalot5690 I am intimately familiar with Israeli culture :) Not by choice, by force

[@dylanwhodiesalot5690]

@@GhassanB then you would realize that a majority of Israeli Jews come from Arab countries (their diaspora experience, not origins) that they were forced out of making your original comment incorrect and ignorant

[@suleimanhussien1559]

Biased to Israel ,why wont you tell how Palestinians lived in camps since 1948? Why wont you tell why they were not allowed to go back home in the first place ?

[@whyjay9959]

Arabs keep them cooped up in camps, not Israel.

[@dogbert52]

Who declared war on who in 1948 habibi?

[@suleimanhussien1559]

@@dogbert52 you cant come and declare half of the land is yours and expect people to be cool, any way without the british support hagana couldnt do any thing

[@Bubatz_braucher]

@@dogbert52 The zionists declared war when they colonized the land that was never theirs. It would be as if I took over your house and banished you to the basement and call it 50/50. Israel has no right to exist in the first place. Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, not to the zionists, not the British or the Turks.

[@R0DBS2]

I don't have anything to say except what the comment above me

[@rolandaboujaoude5245]

بشير حي فينا

[@therightfoot81]

Did Israel Know??? They provided perimeter security while the massacre actually happened.

[@unisophia]

if someone tells you to wait outside while they pack their belongings to move to another flat, and maybe sometimes give you a box to carry to the car, and you help them willingly thinking that you are doing something good, but later you realise that you actually participated in burglary and helped a thief, you are still responsible for your part, you should’ve known better and your naivety doesn’t fully absolve you, but it’s light years far from the real criminal. yet, since you are the only one who is ready to take any responsibility and the real burglar outright denies everything, those who either seek to blame it on you, because they hate you anyway and are always happy to blame you basically for anything, as well as those who are too dumb or too lazy to seek real justice and are satisfied with the low hanging fruit which is again, blaming it all on the least responsible, but the most conscious party, all of these types just jolly dance around throwing rocks at you, while the real burglar walks away scot free, planning his next “project” :) nice, right?

[@therightfoot81]

@@unisophia I have absolutely no idea, what it is, your trying to explain here, no clue what so ever. Your reply is full of roundabouts and Cul de Sacs and BS. I doubt you were even born when this massacre happened. But if your trying to defend the actions of the IDF who were complicit to the war crime that was indulged upon the camps that day, I encourage you to study the independent reports from Journalists who where on the ground and bore witness on that day. Perhaps then, you can construct a more mature reply that doesn't sound like an extract from some novel novelist. I have spent a lot of my past life on deployments to the ME and the one song that never changes its tune is the hate, Israeli people have for the Arab community which goes beyond vile, but, the same hate exists on both sides and with the same hatred of each other. The only difference is that one side has a military super power supporting while the others has nothing.

[@muhibalisfamily]

Will Israel recognise the Nakba I mean you said it yourself democracy stands for the truth

[@gamisag]

you got to ask yourself if a country goes to a war it can prevent or at least not go to Beirut iin hope to gain political win is it ok to understand and say they got the most moral army? you got to ask yourself if givving territory to the palestinians could prevent thousands of murders on both sides, can you say its still a defending army? you got to ask yourself if the majority of israelies are supporting the right wing that prefer one holy land instead of a chance for peace is that land holy and those people chosen? i got to ask myseklf as an israeli how can you teach a just nerative to our chldren without being a liaer? how can you love your country and hate what it does? sadly our story of shoa and gvura endeed in 73 the last defending war, or 40 years ago with the peace with jordern since then rabin was murdered along with the just voices that seak justice not just for the jews

[@suleimanhussien1559]

There was a lot of Palestinian massacres in Lebanon’s committed by Israel and it’s militant allies ,but sabra and shatila are the only ones are remembered because unintentionally some reporters we near there and took some pictures and videos of the massacre !

[@noahjung4322]

No, Sabra Shatila is not committed by Israel but by the Phalangists. Educate yourself. Also the other ones were not committed by Israel: Sabra Shatila 1982, Damur 1967, Karantina 1976, Tel Al Zaatar 1976 and Sabra Shatila 1985 again (PLO against Amal)… One of the reasons it’s the most famous is because Jews were involved (lighting) and there are still too many racists.

[@suleimanhussien1559]

@@noahjung4322 all of them were commited bychristian maronites ,tal azatar was given the perfect situation by the syrian bathist hafez alasad to do the masscare without any support for the palestinens by the outer world , the same as sabra and shatila were given the perfect circumstances and situation by besging the camps and allowing only maronites to enter and leave the camp ,and also was documented that some israeli soldiers were laughing and happy with the results

[@dogbert52]

@@suleimanhussien1559 habibi , who declared a genocidal war on who in 1948?

[@suleimanhussien1559]

@@dogbert52 as i recal no body declared that ,but massacares were commited by israeli hagana such as deir yasen and much more...

[@MrBoazhorribilis]

@@suleimanhussien1559 Where and who documented that "some Israeli soldiers were laughing" ? ... Stop lying.

[@goldball9916]

Israel looked at what the phalanges militia did and for whole 40 uninterrupted hours the attack continued from thursday september 16th to sunday the idf learned of the atrocities as early as thursday evening but chose to do nothing and allowed it to continue the militants slaughtered using guns knives and axes.

[@agentminecraft9986]

The video forgets to mention the PLO withdrawal from Lebanon, which motivated the Phalangists to attack innocent Palestinians

[@awadhalabi9172]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing

[@dogbert52]

Their withdrawel happened only after this terrible event.

[@agentminecraft9986]

@@dogbert52 The event happened because the PLO left for Tunisia, so they were unable to defend the camp.

[@dogbert52]

@@agentminecraft9986 when? And when did this happen?

[@agentminecraft9986]

@@dogbert52 September 1st, 1982. On September 16th, the massacre occurred

[@slimbelgaied7093]

Nice, very proud to see israel the peaceful, non murderous, non genocidal state have nothing to do with this massacre. The same way they had nothing to do with al tantura and dir yassin and gaza now. Such a great country indeed

[@DJS11811]

Bashir was killed by another Christian.

[@rolandrodriguez7145]

Nice history lesson 'so do you think if we give 100 billion dollars to all palestinians in Jerusalem to move else where would they move out?

[@johnsimca7093]

While I do not agree with everything you say, I find your channel to be fairly,objective

[@djl5634]

Well bad thing have happened by both sides. But the reason it exists in the first place is ignored. As well as the reason it continues. Israel has had a rough time. And the thing is they wouldn't exist if not for conflict that they had little to nothing to do with starting.

[@jibaruz]

If israel didn't exist most civil wars and blood would not have happened and this is harsh truth for many.

[@mercurial71]

Really? I find this video and most of the others on this channel to be pure propaganda. I am trying to understand the entire situation objectively, but this guy seems to be presenting the IDF as some kind of heroes, whereas we have all seen them shooting Palestinian youngsters at point blank range and beating defenceless old men and disabled people. How can any group of people claim a territory and treat the original inhabitants of that land as a subspecies to be herded around like goats, based on some ridiculous stories made up a thousand years ago? On the other hand, aren’t Western fossil fuel companies responsible for propping up the Jordanian regime that has done nothing to help against the occupation? In any case, this channel seems to be pure Likud propaganda, so it’s impossible to take it seriously.

[@omarjassar4650]

So IDF was like corporal Schultz " I KNOW NOTTING " But seriously , What's the story about all the other massacres ??

[@mikeyc.1979]

your bias is clear.

[@richardthomas4471]

Israel aided and abetted the massacre at Sabra and Shatila by providing a cordon around the refugee camp. The Paratroop Battalion providing the cordon was commanded by 25 year old LtCol Amir Maimon, currently the Israeli Ambassodor to Australia.

[@martinmartinovic1530]

What a joke this video is😂😂 anyway hats of for the production quality.

[@nyyotam4057]

Not enough research went into this. A lot of people might raise an eyebrow when you say something like "Israel cannot be responsible for a massacre perpetrated by Christians". It would look strange to some, Christians might actually do something like that to Muslims. What I mean by that, is that the Sabra and Shatila massacre, simply cannot be understood, without first understanding that many of the Christian perpetrators prior had family members who were massacred at Damour, like for example Elie Hobeika - whose family and his fiancée were massacred at Damour by the "Palestinians". So the Phalangists were, as they were seeing it, exacting revenge. What about "love thy enemy"? Guess it's only a guideline.

[@mariapapadopoulou4499]

And afterwards Aaron Sharon became the prime minister of Israel.

[@andrewgeorges]

I cant believe the audacity you have to use sabra and shatila as a marketing and propaganda ploy for israel. Your page makes me sick

[@dieselboy610]

Who cares

[@nawaazlallmahomed3969]

Nothing can justifies this massacres folks now anything changes the more wars they will waged every factions will becomes stronger folks

[@AntonioRodrigues-cc2fw]

Israel is the good country always helping others

[@randlewhitney6560]

Only if united States does the same thing

[@feedcount]

We were responsible for massacres comparable to October 7 but bro we did the bare minimum and "investigated ourselves". The amount of propaganda of this channel is insane

[@rolandrodriguez7145]

That's how you gonna get peace its worth it ' rebuilt jerusalem beautifully for tourism and investors and no more fighting 200 billion good

[@cyb-m]

Israel should annex Lebanon and Mediterranean coast of Syria and create a larger state of Kna'an.

[@hgeorges7849]

Read about Damour Massacre

[@ianspeedy]

So in what world does an accuser investigate an incident that they are accused of. This guy saying Israel was the only party who had the integrity to investigate Sabra and Shatila, and by the way the reason Palestinian where there is because they were kick out of Palestine 1948, so who cause all this to begin with. if no one kicked the Palestine out of their homeland then Jordan, Syria and Lebanon and elsewhere wouldn't have this problem. This is why this will always be a conflict and won't be resolve in our life time.

[@isharafathima-c9g]

Massacre was not a Israeli fault , It did under the patronage of IDF.

[@surijosuperbaby]

Wrong

[@ResilientWon]

Kings 9 4-9 denies your claim.

[@leohochhauser]

What’s this with your incessant hand movements and the background music. I’m interested in history but can’t watch this noisy talk.

[@stevesinclair4159]

Its a display of his schizophrenia

[@waffensachverstandcom5505]

Israel Is a democracy with highlights and flaws- but the only one in that area south of Bosporus

[@Hchris101]

What is that profile picture.

[@waffensachverstandcom5505]

@@Hchris101 German Major League Action Personnel

[@ricb7801]

It's a strange democracy that denies the right to vote to millions of Palestinians born and raised there but gives the right to vote to some fat retired American born and raised in Brooklyn.

[@maurhes4423]

So? USA is a democracy and look what they did to their own population and the middle east. Boeing a democracy doesnt caninoze you

[@realolivertwisted]

“Israel is a democracy” 🤡 HILARIOUS 😆

[@monk7946]

America acknowledges many things it's done...........ok?

[@jimjones1130]

Israhell

[@Wann910]

5:13 just like now. Not jews war but BB netanyahu war

[@benavraham4397]

It is absurd to blame Israel for killings done by Lebanese Christians! 🇱🇧✝️

[@R0DBS2]

They blame us for everything these days 💀

[@benavraham4397]

@@R0DBS2 "These days?" My, you are optimistic!

[@ravenmusic6392]

@@benavraham4397 It's because the Lebanese and Israeli forces were operating in-step with the SLA during the conflicts. Numerous reports after the fact have noted that Israel had multiple chances to intervene in the massacres and did not

[@benavraham4397]

@@ravenmusic6392 I read that the Lebanese government gave amnisty to the actual killers. As far as Lebanon is concerned, the event is seen as natural and forgiven. The massacre took place on the night of Rosh HaShana, a solemn Jewish holiday, so to have the Israelis at their minimum alertness. I heard that the Christians used knives in order to be silent and not arrouse the Israelis, and that the Christians killed only the young men, who had been the actual combatants of the Palestinians. The bottom line is, the Palestinians had massacred Lebanese Christians shortly before, and the Christians redeemed the blood of their murdered kinsmen.

[@ravenmusic6392]

@@benavraham4397 Oh ok so what you're talking about there is called a revenge killing, plain and simple. I don't care how many other massacres occoured, it doesn't justify the mass execution of refugees, and even less the aiding of that killing by a UN member state! And no, it wasn't just knives, it was guns, vehicles and other heavy weapons, the Israelis knew full well what was going on and directly facilitated the location of the camps through their recon assets. Killing young men is also common in genocides and war crimes, its what happened in both Germany and Bosnia, male civilians are killed as revenge, that doesn't justify it. The reason why Israel is hated in Lebanon isn't even because of this even, its because of the thousands of civilians they've killed through their invasions and utterly indescriminate bombings that's galvanised the population. Hezbollah wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the southern Lebanon conflict

[@ameerchehab]

Yeah it needs Einstein to predict what the Phalangists what they were going to do, and Sharon rose to become a Prime Minister. Yes it sets israel apart...

[@carlomassa9641]

yes,,,,,,,they did

[@alexskanstein]

"not realizing what's going on" 😅 why Israelis didn't let the journalists to enter the camps ?? why when the civilian victims tried to run away the Israelis didn't let them and when they told the soldiers that Phalangists are killing and raping they just answer "Go back to the camp" ?

[@elioshabbar8443]

Ha, the opening part about cognitive bias almost got me. This video, this whole channel is unilateral in its views. The last part about democracies not being afraid of the truth made me grind my teeth, either the most delusional person on earth or the most dishonest

[@arthursebastiany7311]

yes, yes it was.

[@eleworld9371]

Trying to be ‏‪4:27‬‏ 🤦🏻 to deny that

[@gabrielcalderon3]

I posted and then my comment disappeared 😂

[@seancurran8249]

🇬🇧🙏🇮🇱🇬🇧🙏🇮🇱🇬🇧🙏🇮🇱

[@marhaenthemchannelreupload1344]

Sorry lads, at this video u wrong

[@muhibalisfamily]

Begin was a terrorist right?

[@almitrahopkins1873]

Now if they would look at its own acts in Gaza…

[@MrBoazhorribilis]

I presume that you are talking about Hamas and Islamic Jihad. There are ZERO Israelis in Gaza for the last 17 years.

[@banjonotkaz00ie64]

@@MrBoazhorribilis yea they just bomb them from jets now veryyy different and oh the graveyard was a hamas base obviously why are those kids in it

[@R0DBS2]

Israel is not responsible for any deaths as it withdrew from there

[@almitrahopkins1873]

@@MrBoazhorribilis People, maybe. It's easier to bomb if there are no "israelis" there, isn't it?

[@MrBoazhorribilis]

@@almitrahopkins1873 I do not know what you are trying to intimate but I read the reports and almost all the fatalities were the result of bullet wounds specifically targeted. No bombings.