Israeli F-15D Baz Vs Eurofighter Typhoon Fox-2 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simualtor | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@adspie]

are you usinf motion chair simulation?

[@damiansback]

Same fight but with guns only.

[@JTACRIFLE]

Its too late for me.

[@panan7777]

First kill: fancy dancing, killing your airspeed, WILL kill you?

[@theymusthatetesla3186]

.....I'm covered in soft, grey fur, so no thanks! ;)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Those Fox-2s are pretty insane I tried to give you guys lots of external shots so everyone could see these things looping and turning around, pretty cool stuff to see. Anyway thank you to Galaxy for helping with this video and thank you to all of you for watching and your support, if you have any ideas for videos in the future go ahead and comment them in the comment section and maybe we can do a video with some of the ideas.

[@packray665]

You in an f15c against an f35 BVR

[@wurfyy]

I think what happened with that missile is not that it tracked the Eurofighter, I think it tracked the F-15 all the way but passed close enough to the EF to trigger the proxy fuse. Essentially, had he chosen just a slightly different flight path that would have put him out of the path of that missile, you might have instead died very unexpectedly. Looking at the path, it just doesn't seem like it tracked the EF.

[@debbiestimac5175]

A-10 versus Apache.

[@Curtislow2]

At 3:40 it almost looks as if you could be tracked by friendly fire.?

[@donnybrookinhooligan1088]

Yeah, them Pythons are wicked lethal. Galaxy needs to up his chaff/flare game. Good job to the both of you!!

[@unabletocomprehend7229]

Grumman F11 Tiger: I shot myself down with my own cannon, get on my level. Eurofighter Typhoon: Look into my irises.

[@donnybrookinhooligan1088]

I'm the captain now!!

[@dsdy1205]

Wally Schirra: First time?

[@mxaxai9266]

Missiles aside, it's amazing how dynamic the whole fight was. None of this "lol were stuck in a spiral until we hit the deck". The instantaneous turn rate of the EF is crazy, and it also has the thrust-to-weight ration to just use the vertical whenever it wants to (similar to the F-22).

[@aim120C]

i wonder if the human inside the machine is capable to endure those turns tho.

[@theriddler2277]

@@aim120C turns out humans are better at handing the G's than the jets are

[@EvoraGT430]

@@aim120C Pressure breathing FTW

[@CensoredUsername_]

@@aim120C The EF's fly by wire system automatically limits the craft to +/-7G sustained maneuvering, and it has additional features designed to allow pilots to fully sustain it. It was designed to do this kind of shit.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

@@CensoredUsername_ There was an interview with a EF pilot and he loved the fact that you could just back stick and not have to worry about over-g, really unappreciated feature of the EF

[@agnivmandal1946]

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was........ Sorry.... Had to... Don't Ban me.

[@Devin7Eleven]

Whats the original quote from?

[@tomschueneman5435]

Thomas Pynchon-designed guidance system

[@TonymanCS]

Classic

[@MrWils25]

The matrix has you.

[@ChrisRedfieldsbloodline]

I track therefore I am.

[@Right1994]

I wonder how a Eurofighter that actually has its Praetorian system would fare in such situations. I mean, from what I can gather on Wikipedia, that system is pretty nuts. Like, "detect and shoot down an enemy right behind you"-nuts.

[@tedarcher9120]

That's not as nuts, you need a second radar for that tho

[@anchises666]

@@tedarcher9120 Doesn't have to be radar. F-35 has 360° spherical coverage by infrared sensors, called "distributed aperture system" (AN/AAQ-37). Many fighter jets - including the EF Typhoon - do have an additional radar at the rear as part of the missile approach warning system, which most likely can also be used to track aircraft to a certain extent.

[@julian5857]

@@anchises666 the Eurofighter has DASS tough

[@Ganiscol]

@@muleyman68 In theory only. By the time he spots somebody behind him, his precious plane is gone, though.

[@thehind8861]

@@weasle2904 thats why it drowned 3 different times in 2 months right?😂😂

[@spacekraken666]

I think that Typnhoon's missile wasn't actually tracking him, but you three maneuvered in such a way that the missile almost ran into him while trying to catch you. Not sure if it self-destructed or actually proxy-fuzed on the Typhoon but that was very impressive. Imagine intentionally tricking the enemy into splashing himself lmao

[@victorshikhman]

Having watched this channel about 6-9 months, with plenty of BVRs and Fox2 after the merge, this episode stands out. These Fox2's are already on another level. The next generation will not be survivable on aeronautics alone without crazy tech - AI-guided maneuvers, EW or laser defense, maybe all three.

[@peterweller8583]

LASER's mounted on sharks

[@imadrifter]

@@peterweller8583 oh shit its Robocop hisself

[@JathTech]

They'll need to start adding active defense to planes like they do tanks. Imagine having your flares also try to impact enemy missiles and take them out.

[@peterweller8583]

@@JathTech flares with IR sensors well if that aint cuter thana puppy pulling a wagon.

[@SJstackinbodys]

Python missle: *misses* Python missle: "so anyway i started tracking"

[@oscarzheng9902]

not only did the typhoon get missile spammed, the missiles looped around and around until theres 4 fox 2s chasing you

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

its like fighting a bunch of crows diving at you from multiple directions lol.

[@crapsadwitch5699]

Mans playing ace combat in DCS

[@jamielonsdale3018]

@@crapsadwitch5699 High Speed Datalink Antenna confirmed

[@sizzilingsausages8121]

“That’s a missile coming at my face” I laughed so hard 😂

[@dsdy1205]

5:12 Words cannot describe how much I love this shot. The smash zoom, the heavy brass, coupled with the missile punching straight into the F15. Perfect. If normal dogfights are like knifefights in a phonebooth, this is a gunfight

[@nairobimusicaltheatreiniti8131]

It's easy to forget modern war isn't a video game or movie. The science is so advanced you're dead in no time.

[@whalehands]

So Behind Enemy Lines is starting to be more true? This was one of the best episodes yet! I like this so much better actually is because this is more likely what would happen in a modern day merge. Not chasing the other around for a Guns kill. Letting the missles off immediately. This is more exciting. The sound you hear in your cockpit when the other jet passes you sounds so good! I always wondered what that sounded like or if you could hear them at all.

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

It's actually more likely you would never see the mirage. Just yank your nose around and let rip.

[@mikedebear]

Watching these python missiles crank 21G in a turn to chase the target makes me think about how lethal an unmanned fighter will be in the future. The AI to dogfight better than a human isn't there yet, but it won't take long at the current rate of development.

[@rhysgoodman7628]

Kinda sad to think about though. The “magic” of flying and being a pilot will be obsolete. That just sounds depressing. We discover the ability to take flight but ruin it for ourselves.

[@anchises666]

"Dogfighting" - as in pulling G's and chasing each others tails - is no longer necessary even today. If you happen to end up in a merge - fly straight and let the missile do the turning.

[@dmomintz]

So after watching you spam 6 python missiles in a row... It's exciting to think that the new F-15EX can carry up to 22 missiles on it's rack.

[@GuardianSaint1995]

cant wait to see the F-15EXX where it carries 50 we be hitting Ace Combat level of missiles

[@dmomintz]

@Apsoy Pike No, of course not, but I like the idea of blotting out the sun with missiles

[@rhysgoodman7628]

@Apsoy Pike well maybe it’s like the F-35’s “beast mode” in that it obviously compromises the F-35’s stealth, but is a secondary role that the aircraft can fulfill when stealth is no longer needed. I can imagine that once majority air superiority is achieved, an F-15 with maybe 16 or so missiles rather than 22 could be carried and just used to wipe the skies clean.

[@sean70729]

@Apsoy Pike At least 16 though.

[@peterweller8583]

Yeah and with data-link and a Bone missile truck in close how many tax dollars would little Jimmy ripple fire?

[@therealshug]

5:05 I just gotta say that I absolutely love these sudden death KIA black screens you've been doing, they're awesome

[@Kwaj]

Are these ACME Company missiles? I swear Wile E. Coyote ordered a few of these.

[@commandergeokam2868]

Omega lol

[@GoblinDogThing]

Would be awesome to see a relatively era accurate fox 1 bvr fight. R-27Rs vs AIM-7Ms, etc.

[@sandipm5267]

As per the legend, these missiles are still tracking to this day.

[@ZratP]

Damn it looked like watching those Ace Combat 4 QAAMs. Special close range missiles that could loop and stuff. We were all like "probably doesn't really exist in real life", it's the fantasy/arcade vibe of AC. But when I am watching this, I realize it's it not that exaggerated.

[@PreceptorGrant]

This is pretty crazy. It actually kinda reminds me of a high speed version of a knife-fight between nuclear attack submarines, the way that once weapons are out and running they just keep coming back around, and even threaten the vehicle that launched them.

[@oleksii.malovanyi]

It was like "forget about all the merges you've seen before", I was saying wtf all the video long

[@foobar201]

Holy cow that final round! Truly a knife fight in a phone booth.

[@eddiefu9598]

3:23 Just funny how those missile coming back and forth trying to hit the target at the first round. Like it’s saying “I’m gonna get you this time”😂

[@BlooFlame]

This has got to be one of your coolest videos. I love the stationary perspective.

[@dubravkohubak5387]

stationary looks like flies mating...with missiles

[@danielberger1378]

This may have been your most evenly matched fight yet. Well done from both of you 💪

[@lightningxx]

I know it seems like "today we dont want to go to the merge", but in a lot of cases, they have to visually ID the target. So its not so simple

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

also a valid point.

[@glxytoni]

tru

[@SimonBauer7]

same thing with the f4 in vietnam and no guns tbh.

[@vincenzoclesceri4673]

Love your stuff man. I’m a flight instructor building hours to go commercial. Flying fighter jets has always been a dream of mine. One day I’m going to save up enough to get a whole set with this game. When that happens I’d love to see what it’s like to dogfight you. As someone who understands the principles of energy management and displacement maneuvers, it’s awesome watching you utilize these aircraft to the best of their ability. Thanks for the awesome content.

[@xxthotslayerxx]

I never had my butt clenched for THIS long, absolutely astonishing dogfight!

[@avramnovorra]

Insane is definitely an understatement here... Also, Round 4's moment where you tag each other reminds me of that one MiG-29 v F-16 vudeo from way back where you shot down the viper, he spun outta control, but STILL tagged you with his 9X... this was pure chaos through and through 🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@jamesj.7750]

That's pretty terrifying if missiles are getting this good. The far aways scenes of the missiles doing crazy stuff was ruined by KZbin compression 😞

[@MarksUselessChannel]

The F-15 is just a bad ass. From day one.

[@Ganiscol]

Watching these eels chasing you guys, I get flashbacks to Hunt for Red October and the final battle of Star Trek 6 😅

[@JohnL2112]

“You arrogant ass, you’ve killed us!”

[@forlornfoe]

Classy work reliably catching those missiles with your face, apparently you personally are a hotter target than the roaring jet engines. That was some wacky missile juggling.

[@plymouth3011]

Antics like this makes you believe in fighters doing 'Tokyo Drift' at building level in movies.

[@RonakDhakan]

Interestingly 'Baaz' means 'Eagle' in Hindi.

[@santifresnel2320]

is the EF pilot saving flares for the New Year party?

[@End_of_Lvl_Guardian]

The EF pilot was very poor. He kept crossing right in front of GS's nose, just giving him free shots.

[@AximandTheCursed]

"...and there's a missile coming for my face..." GS Imagining a real fighter pilot saying this as it happened, promptly collapsed laughing, those missiles are bonkers!

[@Arkeny-SS]

this is by far one of the best videos . so far in this channel had a lot of fun by just watching those missiles drifting .. haha :)

[@irancartaxo8353]

That missile as 3:30 was almost like hollyood movie missiles.🤣

[@dilldoe1991]

8:11 because the missile knows where it is at all times…

[@u4ia420]

With the Python pulling crazy maneuvers, can it accidentally reacquire the friendly that fired it? Can you accidentally shoot yourself down with one?

[@ZnR_r3k]

Watch the whole video first

[@anchises666]

There is a small chance you can accidentally collide with it but it won't target you, even if it's looking right at you and there is no one else around.

[@hphp31416]

real one has IFF and datalink to avoid it

[@member5488]

Python also looks at the target with normal optics as well as IR sensors so it actually visually IDs the target as well as homes in on heat. This makes them ignore flares and the sun and if configured correctly, it should ignore friendlies even with out a data link.

[@CNCTEMATIC]

Some of those turns are so insane. Honestly I find it hard to believe that such crazy lateral accelerations could be achieved by an aerodynamic vehicle IRL. Probably we'll never know for sure...

[@johnhermann7498]

That was hilarious and terrifying at the same time!

[@gromm93]

Airplane: $450M. Takes 1 year to build them. Pilot training: $4M. Takes 3 years. Battlefield life expectancy: 15 seconds.

[@quasimondo1933]

Makes me curious how effective these missiles would be against supermanueverable jets like the Su-35

[@BullRoarer_]

We need an RAF Typhoon and ASRAAM video against the F15/Python

[@MythicPi]

I'd love to see a vid where you fire the IRIS-T instead of the python so we can get an idea of what being on the other end of either of these missiles is like. Great vid though! Always a great day when theres a new GS video!

[@nathanaelgilkes4412]

imagine growling does one of those mid-action, cut scene intros

[@tonyennis1787]

Helmet-mounted targeting is a game changer.

[@Ba5edAF]

"That's a missile coming for my face" -Sidewinder G

[@dennishook6529]

Love your channel. The one thing I have learned from you is that it’s not always about the plane. Even an older plane in competent pilot’s hands can out fight almost any newer plane. And a little sprinkle of luck dust thrown in. So I think the Ukrainian pilots still have a great fighting chance against the Russians.

[@rhopag]

That ground view is awesome! Views from below or above would be cool too.

[@IceyJones]

that crazy missile went for you, but was proxy fuzed by him

[@Name-ps9fx]

Didn't know you could bump-fire missiles! Well done!

[@kgjung2310]

One step closer to Macross style hyper-maneuver missiles. Now fire them in groups of 6 so I can finally see an Itano circus. Eurofighter almost got Tupoleved (missle/torpedo coming around and killing sender instead). Do these kind of missiles have a safeguard against that from really happening?

[@julian5857]

Most likely they have datalink but that's ofc classified

[@zonacrs]

Fox 2 knife fight in a post merge phone booth! That was insane.

[@evangalinsky2499]

the burn time on the python is insane lol must be a fairly long range capable "short range" heater, at least if fired high.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I think it can reach out about 10 miles max range which is pretty cool.

[@shay0l728]

@@GrowlingSidewinder 12.5* ... next one (python 6) will be able to reach 62.5 miles with same capabilities (:

[@fishbones8698]

@@shay0l728 somehow, I don't believe you

[@commandergeokam2868]

@@shay0l728 how is that even possible?

[@donnybrookinhooligan1088]

The true capabilities aren't public gents, no nation would post numbers on weapons that took untold hours and an ungodly amount of cash to develop. If the Israeli air services announced that their new missile can hit everything that isn't painted pink, I would bet you a tray of nachos Iranian MiGs would be Pepto pink tomorrow

[@AsbestosMuffins]

those missiles are wicked scary if they're tracking under such intense turns

[@timbaskett6299]

I'd assume that the missile would have some kind of IFF interrogator on board. They maybe infrared, but I'm sure there is some type of RF system working.

[@donaldlee8249]

These fox-2 fights are far more intense and entertaining to watch than gun fights

[@texasknight5175]

“You’ve killed us, you arrogant ass!”….😂

[@adrianstachowski9422]

Those modern missiles are nutz. I wonder what comes in near future lol

[@urban4957]

Gotta love the grey dorito VS the desert diamond. Keep up the satisfying af content

[@MarksamtheMarksman_Official]

These Pythons are built different.

[@NavyCuda]

It's almost like the missle was still tracking you but proximity detonated.

[@cloudforest4087]

That was a wild missile. Just like the animal, it coils itself to strike.

[@gr1pen]

This is the first time I saw anyone go one-circle with a missile.

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

These missiles have a hell of a tracking system and turn radius they are very determined

[@chrisfitzmaurice7484]

He will bust 250k subscribers in a week or two. Thank you for service, sir.

[@azure664]

I always look forward to see these awesome videos, keep up the great work.

[@octopus92]

The best air to air missile dogfight I've ever seen 👍👍

[@Appreciation-Community]

Growling Sidewinder the type of dude to carry a Damascus butterfly knife. Lol only kidding, great video as usual.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

looooool not my knife I swear.

[@sbg911]

Assume the winner of Rnd4 was whoever's parachute touched down last? 😀 have to say these newer super-manoeuvrable missiles seem simply insane!

[@tedytarrify]

Round 4 was crazy... What I am interested in is pilot survivability... how many of these dogfights resulted in someone dying versus ejecting and surviving?

[@btbd2785]

The Pythons are the most bad ass Missles!! But his own IRIS tracking him, lol!!

[@terrywest111]

My favorite bit of GS comedic gold here: @11:02 "AND THAT'S A MISSILE COMING TOWARD MY FA-!" *Dies in a hilarious fireball*

[@LordRoxy]

Excellent; really really good representation.

[@radioactive9861]

They are called 'missiles' and not 'hittiles' for a reason. (I couldn't resist!!!)

[@joelcueto2460]

That's pretty cool GS, I guess if a fighter aircraft did make it to a merge and armed with the Phyton 5, that aircraft already have the advantage in dogfight. Our airforce currently only have LCA (FA-50) but its already integrated to be armed with Phyton 5 and I-Deby missiles, cool video GS and more power.

[@davebarnett7026]

Round 4. Arthur: Your arm is off! Knight: No it isn't. Arthur: What is that there. Knight: We will call it a draw.

[@stevemc6010]

That's the most audible booms I've heard yet from the pilot's view

[@poethepenguin2438]

First we got Supermaneuverable aircraft, and now we got supermaneuverable missiles. What's next, supermaneuverable chaff and flare?

[@lukew_ch]

I'm wondering if someone came up with the idea of a long range variant of this, like strapping a lockon after launch ir missile to a booster. Aerial equivalent to the ASROC

[@jamielonsdale3018]

You're someone, and you have independently come up with this idea ;) Yeah yeah, I know you meant 'I wonder if someone ELSE came up with the idea'...

[@ExCenterProductions]

That second kill was insane

[@jamiegable964]

Israel turned the F15 into a monster with the Python and the double kill was awesome great video GS

[@Viviana088]

growling sidewinder has entered ace combat mode with this match *SOMEONE QUE FIRE YOUNGMAN!!!!*

[@przemekz8977]

"Dancing with missiles" is more adequate title for this film😁

[@billkillernic]

On 3:16 it seems that the missile was several meters away from the aircraft is this how that misile works like exploding on a distance?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

No I think that’s just the best it could do, and it was hoping for frag damage

[@anomaly_echelon7994]

Looks like they've made a short range version of the missile used in Behind Enemy Lines

[@tonyrun5802]

Lmfao when the missile doesn't know where it is anymore

[@tomriley5790]

Looks like that missile was tracking you but exploded on the proximity fuse due to him - like you say one in a million, rather crazy and a bit scary!

[@BuriBuster]

Once mr. missile leaves the rails, he's no longer your friend.

[@bryanmyers9977]

That is starting to look like submarine vs submarine combat. I'll bet the next generation of missiles really do behave more like torpedos... smarter and more deadly. I wouldn't want to be anywhere in the same sky with them.

[@dylan4972]

'and that's a missile coming for my face' 😅

[@jaydeveas2930]

Holy Fk! Those Python literally wrap you up into it’s coils. The more you struggle, the tighter the death grip gets!

[@b0sscaner]

i see fox2 dogfight, i click instantly. keep up the great videos growling sidewiender, much love. o7 :)

[@PrayedForYou]

This was aweasome, had me flinching when you caught a missle to the face. Can't believe you shot eachother down too!

[@johnbockmann]

This is one of my favorite matchups, especially with those Pythons.