It Is Time For War Thunder To Increase Rewards

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

After many vehicles being added and no positive push forward into reducing the grind, it is time to once again bring up ways of doing it

[@SCPFoundationist]

@@TheEuropeanCanadian Should we repeat what happened in May 26th 2023?

[@blank141]

gaijin will not listen until the day war thunder is about to die

[@flyingbullseye]

They won't even listen then

[@jacobnegedly7441]

War thunder will die and gaijin will not care

[@A_Larsen]

Same as what happened with World of Tanks. Investors blocked all change, of fear of disturbing the money-maker, and then the money-maker nearly died from it.

[@NedwardFlanders]

That's not true. Gains happy to listen when it means they make more money

[@averageyoutubeenjoyer9000]

@@NedwardFlanders They only LISTEN when their money is at risk. Take for example when Spookston or any other KZbinr that said to not buy the RDF/LT because it was just straight up bad. Guess what happened only a few days later? Gaijin buffed it. They had the audacity to remove the steam logo from their website when they got review bombed and the only reason they dropped that road map because they were literally at the edge of the game dying.

[@clevernamegotban1752]

It’s time? It’s been time, it’s been time for the past 6 years….

[@YahdDestroyer]

real

[@dentist-chan]

2 more Leopard 2A4s take it or leave it

[@jappe-d1x]

And 2 t80 premiums

[@cvrbon6]

no sherman?

[@poprostulesniak7137]

@@cvrbon6 *New* Premium M4A4 for 5 nations!

[@yaya123abc4]

​@@poprostulesniak7137 why have 5 when you can rather have 6!

[@General_kenobi12]

🎵And a partridge in a pear tree🎵

[@Viggo_06]

aaand they also need to add more bases, people literally tk eachother just to get one

[@HankyInTheTanky]

And revamp bomber gameplay, it’s kinda hard at this point to play the F-111s or any higher tier bomber, when you have people in MiG-23s and F-104s for example speeding ahead of you dropping napalm on the bases

[@LimaSierraWT]

The problem is that an air to air kill gets you around 250 rp, but bombing just one base with napalm gets you around 3k rp. That is a huge gap imo.

[@noobbonexd]

Not gonna lie… after hour and hours and hours of numb senseless grinding of always doing the same maps the 10.000 time in a row, doing the same shit, trying to get that one base for the tiny step forwards in your tectree research just to have a random fighter speed past you and steal the base you literally just dropped your bombs on… I can understand the tk…

[@Lead1121]

@@noobbonexd agreed

[@General_kenobi12]

6 seems fair

[@Viggo_06]

also, together with rewards for dodging missiles, they NEED to give us rp for SHOOTING DOWN missiles, now that every nato spaa (no bias here) is pretty much useless against these new weapons like brimstones aasm and kh38's

[@pig1114]

Every nato spaa being useless for shooting down missiles is not a good argument in favor of rewards for shooting down missiles. You’re basically asking that a single tech tree to get better rewards than all others, on top of the extra rewards they already get by just being a stronger tree.

[@standeman32]

@@pig1114 how childish

[@StealthySpace7]

I noticed this almost a year ago. I saw rewards of 8,000-14,000 RP for a top tier game, Win, 6+ kills, and premium. Without the new booster for more than 3, 6, or 9 kills, and without the 50% or 100% boost from premium, that would be like 2,000 RP. Absolutely not enough.

[@rodneycook3674]

Yeah they punish you for getting steamrolled by unbalanced teams and maps. Also air rb is the worst if you just starting out and trying to learn to dogfight you make no rp.

[@Lead1121]

back in the day, we used to have x2 rates once per day per nation....as well as x5 weekends. It's funny because even back then that wasn't enough

[@PredatoryPotato]

That’s a bit of an exaggeration. I got a 3 kill game with premium accounts and no other boosters and I got 10k. I used a premium tank so sure that will give me more but without the extra boosters it wouldn’t have only given 2000rp

[@kerotomas1]

Air rewards are fine, ground rewards are absolutely abysmal though. I would go as far as calling people crazy for investing hundreds of their hours if not a thousand to grind a single tank tree. But i guess this is the price to pay for having no endgame. An MMO without an endgame is like this unfortunately.

[@Viggo_06]

i get like 13k rp for a 10 KILL GAME, IN A PREMIUM TANK

[@kerotomas1]

@@Viggo_06 good for you, now go back and continue the mindless grinding like an ant

[@Viggo_06]

@@kerotomas1 lol why the attitude

[@Idk-cz9ms]

@@kerotomas1he was agreeing with your point btw showing how outrageous that is it’s so funny how an air game that lasts 10 minutes where you get 4 kills will net you 30k rp

[@kerotomas1]

@@Idk-cz9ms oh okay lol didn't get the sarcasm, yeah i grind through air trees with a high tier prem plane 40-60k per game with an average of 5-6 kills - and usually air battles are way faster too so your effort is even more rewarded

[@swiffin]

It'd also be nice if they did events with double research/squadron vehicle research so people can have lineups.

[@shanekhiu9884]

Yeah, and double xp weekends.

[@IIW4RHAWKII]

agreed it took me 4 weeks at casual play to unlock one vehicle

[@TheRiiiederner]

Weird i was able to unlock f15e in like 10 days of casual play , although i was surprised how fast it was the 100% booster for 5 matches does a lot

[@vogavation]

I unlocked the su-27 in one day in about 6 hours, but that's because I was using a pre nerf mig23ml

[@Viggo_06]

i hope for a new review bombing, after they stopped doing the roadmap, didnt even fkn finish it lol. Premium account + Vehicle isnt even enough anymore. your looking at like 500hrs + to complete a nation which is fucking insane

[@jaydenblain3599]

Every time gaijin pisses me off. I go to leave a bad review. And realize my bad review is still there from over a year ago

[@Viggo_06]

@@jaydenblain3599 same, its still negative for me

[@rokos.1239]

Im up for it. It feels like gaijin just went their own way. I quit the game not long ago, not planning on returning. It feels to me that review bombing did nothing, only giving us what we wanted for short time before everything turned back to normal. Gaijin is probably just renting us with those things just to have us keep playing the game

[@Viggo_06]

@ exactly, thinking of quitting to, its just not substainable

[@rokos.1239]

@@Viggo_06 well if this helps you too: im 400-500 hour player. I have a friend who is maybe 700 hour player. We both quit. We play for free, never spent a penny on anything. I havent even reached 9.0 in all my time playing. As i was about to grind for MBT-70 i calculated that it would take around 30 hours. Okay, why not just play 5 hour match everyday? Then i realised. I would grind a week for one vehicle at best. Why not spend that time drawing? If i spent 25 hours drawing i would notice progress and develop my skill, but what do i gain in war thunder? Another tank to grind another tank? I wish i spent all those hours drawing because at least i would have something i can use and have fun from IRL. So i quit and went to play Ghost of Tsushima and GoW Ragnarok so i have something entertaining to do after school. Those two games are fun and worth my time, but war thunder was driving me insane.

[@AgentK-im8ke]

my biggest issue is the "time played" reward you shouldn't be rewarded for the time you spent driving or flying but by the amount of kills and objectives you accomplished during the battle

[@Zealot2024]

What we need is some kind of progressive RP system in battles. We already get it for getting more kills, but i think we should get +15% every time we respawn for actions performed in that life

[@cubexp2.010]

Being a causal player who is stuck in the early jet ranks I’ve been losing Silver Lions more than I gain them, so I take huge breaks off the game because of how unrewarding the game is.

[@mrrene897]

I feel you. I got lucky that the Bagelpanzer 57 got that buff in the last years, so it went from 8.3 or so to 9.3, wich helps farming money with the god mode rewards. And when you die you wont loose that mich sl

[@vogavation]

if you're losing SL then that means you must be getting zero kills every single game. I think it's time to watch some guides

[@mrrene897]

@@vogavation its more like im doing a lot more rp than sl, i could go back and play low br for some battles, but farming god modes makes more fun

[@vogavation]

@@mrrene897 was replying to the comment not your reply

[@AMRsti93]

Its ridiculous how much faster air RB grinds than tanks. I started France like 2 weeks ago and I'm researching the Rafale already.. you get like easily 5-10k per match and sometimes even 20k if you do really well Another thing that needs to go is needing to research and purchase 5 vehicles of one rank to get to the next. Like tanks for example I am not interested in playing AA tanks or Tank destroyers. I should not be required to waste my lions and time researching them if all I want is an abrams or leopard 2 for example i stopped playing Britain Airforce cuz in order to get to rank 7 and 8 i need literally every tree left to right researched...

[@meepmeep3018]

I dropped a 12 kill 6 assist 4 cap nuke in rank 7 French tanks, with a 30 or 50% rp booster... 12k rp. Mind you I also have prem. Meanwhile I can make 25k rp with 4 kills and a small booster in air rb. The cost difference and reward drop to tanks is like a slap in the face. I've been on French tech tree for years now and it's taking forever for me to finish it since there is no rank 7 lineup it goes right from 6-8. Maybe if the cv wasn't a fucking squadron vehicle it wouldn't be so bad but no why would we want to fill out the French tree.

[@vogavation]

@@meepmeep301812k rp is the soft cap for rp gains

[@visti3006]

I think there should be higher rewards, for shooting down aircraft in ground vehicles. To encourage more players to play SPAA's. And higher rewards for helping with repairs, so more people think it's worth to help with repairs

[@riccardopozzoni8821]

Give SPAA decent rewards when shooting down planes... CAS is everywhere and it won't change.. why playing SPAA as anti CAS when u get shit rewards.

[@m10lover]

The rewards are ok, but there’s just too much cash

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

@@m10lover shooting down CAS in an SPAA gives less SL and RP than destroying a tank…

[@hmp01]

@@Iden_in_the_Rain lets be real here, how hard is it for spaa to shot down a helicopter?

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

@@hmp01 very difficult due to the IR signature being nonexistent and the helicopter being able to hide behind cover extremely quickly

[@hmp01]

@ i dont know man I play with helicopters all the time tho still on 8.3 however any spaa easily kills me. only if I caught them off guard do I kill them. i will see once I get the ones with thermals and tracking missiles

[@Add12pack]

I think we DO need to increase rewards BUT I think we need games that last longer MORE. Bigger maps=longer games, new spawning mechanics and less spawn point costs for tanks while much higher spawn point costs for CAS give the oppertunity for more rewards by giving everyone more spawns and so more deaths. The old Outskirts of Tunisia was the perfect map, long range sniping, missies where useable the mountain in the middle was awesome, tanks that can float could actually use that mechanic and you had a city on the other side, it was perfect.

[@joshuamueller3206]

Tank SP is good, Air is far too low most of the time. F4U with 2 1000lb is way too easy to spawn and really hard to counter.

[@simpletrailers1161]

nah, bigger maps mean getting sniped from +2kms by bushed up tanks you can hardly see with your thermals. So no

[@Add12pack]

@@simpletrailers1161 thermals have left the chat

[@primeapolo2010]

Welcone to modern Warfare. You re using a tank Who never fight another tank on close distances.​@@simpletrailers1161

[@primeapolo2010]

​@@simpletrailers1161welcone to the modern Warfare. You re using a tank Who has never designes to fight another tank at close distances

[@silverbug97]

All they need to do is straight up copy from the other game they publish, Enlisted. That game also had awful grind but recently they massively slashed the amount of points you need to unlock new things and increased the rate at which you obtain points. They also have never required you to use the premium currency to spend their actually free research XP. At one point they tried to cut back on how much free XP you could bank but the backlash was so great they gave in to the community.

[@IG10705]

I have over a million XP, and I think it is stupid that it is locked behind a paywall. I do agree that some of the RP for stuff should be slashed.

[@AgentK-im8ke]

@@IG10705 they should put the same system for free XP than WOT, in WOT 10% of your XP is taken and converted in free XP, the XP is NOT taken on the reward it just watch how much XP you made and give you those +10% extra

[@integer_main]

They added "Skill" Bonus and (TT) research bonus, but none of that increases SL income. So now you have even worse SL situation where you can buy discounted vehicles, but not enough SL to crew/expert them.

[@dragonlord2451]

i love seeing 20 missile evasions a game and 0 reward for literally winning the game for the team

[@thebigwagyu]

Yeah, as someone newer to the game who has grinded up to top tier over the past few months, this is a much needed change, especially for the higher tier stuff. The grind isn’t really that bad until you hit jets, and this is largely because the game goes from having a clear division in play styles (fighters, strike, bomber) to basically 90% fighters, 10% everything else. This dramatically reduces how you can earn rewards, bottlenecking the whole experience. Having a premium account and a premium vehicle only goes so far now with how much RP you need in the higher tiers. Plus, stuff like needing to buy the vehicle and then pay an extra tax on top of that just to use it makes absolutely no sense, and it actively discourages you from trying new things out.

[@XYVTN]

I think adding rewards to the drones would be horrible. It would just lead to people just camping in drone view 24/7 and not playing the game to get easy RP/SL. Either they have to make it SL only or find another alternative.

[@DarlinaLTesh]

Silver gain is pretty decent nowadays. RP gain, tho.... not so much. What bothers me the most is the fact that shooting down airplanes barely gives any reward. Especially when playing AA the rewards should be higher. In higher tiers the AAs can only attack airplanes mostly... so getting air kills should at least be more rewarding. It's absolutely insane that someone with 2 ground kills gets more points than the AA player who took down 6 air units... it's nuts.

[@Gumpy-ze-forest]

This game is in a state of cerebral death, I just uninstalled it today after 7k hours on it 😢.

[@FreeFragUK]

I think Gaijin should consider/make two major changes to the game. Firstly I think they should split the game between WW2 and Post WW2, the two time periods are very different gameplay experiences and further to this the alliances in both time periods are completely different too. The latter note is important as it potentially impacts game modes/maps/events. The second change should be to the progression pace, as you've already alluded to. This may become less of an issue if you split the tree between WW2 and Post WW2. As a final point of consideration, there's a good chance that by splitting the trees Gaijin may see an additional influx of players as people would no longer be forced to play through WW2 if it doesn't interest them. Raising awareness of such a change by engaging with KZbin and perhaps a marketing campaign working on the idea of "play your way" could also yield more players if it was to raise awareness of the various game modes and the community modding side of War Thunder.

[@Maefyre]

I like the idea of being able to start like israel at every nation. Start at reserve for 1 jf you want ww2. Start at 7.0ish (with some jiggling) for post ww2

[@averageyoutubeenjoyer9000]

They won't do that , Gaijin designed War Thunder to be grindful in order to force low IQ wallet warriors into spending money to get to top tier stuff. There's a whole video dedicated to this topic , search it.

[@TheApotheCarrot]

1.) Defensive Assist: for drawing an enemy's fire who is then killed while engaging you. 2.) Intelligence Assist: for using MG or map markers to reveal enemy locations for teammates who then damage/destroy them. 3.) Mobility/Firepower Assist: Additional reward for enemy destroyed while immobilized or disarmed by you. 4.) Decapturing Assist: for decapturing a capture point held by the enemy. 5.) Holding the Capture Point: For staying on the point when it is under your team's control. 6.) Objective Assist: Additional reward for damaging an enemy on or near the capture point 7.) Breakthrough Assist: for killing an enemy that has been camping in a small area for at least 2 minutes OR has fired into your team's spawn in the last 60 seconds. ***8.) Phoenix: Additional SP awarded for all actions if you would not have had enough SP to spawn another vehicle upon the death of the current vehicle.

[@tyruido1175]

What about the most obvious which is just simply RP costs reductions across the board? If not then at least at top tier

[@cocoadesu2918]

^ this, just need that and increase rewards and then end of discussion

[@TheRiiiederner]

Not for planes tho

[@Organic_Chemistry_Junkie]

There are many things the devs could do here if they so wanted to. The simplest option is to make costs scale at the same rate as rewards do, which would make low tiers less of a grind breeze, but would make high tiers less frustratingly long. Currently the grind is exponential as you go down trees, while rewards only linearly increase and then logarithmically cap out. However, in the current climate, simply reducing grind is unattractive to snail's bottom line, while any hint of increasing grind anywhere would push the playerbase more towards revolt. Instead, I feel there are other specific options which can be tried. It *IS* in fact possible to both reduce the grind and *benefit* Gaijin's bottom line to therefore make such a proposal *realistic to implement.* 1. Talismanned vehicles can transfer unused modifications RP to another machine in your lineup. Pretty self-explanatory, makes premium vehicles and talismanned tech-tree vehicles much more valuable as a result. 2. (Premium Account Only) Free conversion of a set amount of Convertible RP to either research or modifications RP per day of active premium account. Each tech tree you get has an independent modifier here. The bonus scales up the further you progress down the given tree in question, thereby rewarding players who have stuck with the game a long time. 3. Simplifying and enhancing the research bonuses for tech tree completion. The current system manages to be simultaneously an overly complex set of rules for a paltry number of games per day and a pitifully small bonus. Instead, I would have it be a flat % increase in the final RP (not base RP) for how many tiers you have unlocked and spaded every machine in. This modifier stacks infinitely for however many tech trees you have gone down and spaded. For example, at a 5% bonus per spaded tier per tree, spading all 8 tiers of the US tree will net a permanent 40% increased research bonus (+5% per fully spaded tier). This bonus should intentionally be fairly large to reward people who have stuck with Gaijin for so many years despite multiple instances of "questionable" decisions.

[@andyman233]

In ground RB games, at the end of a battle how about getting rewarded for NOT dying? (or by being the highest on the leaderboard of your team with no deaths).

[@swiftbear]

Repairing, too many times I go to a difficult position and smoke up to get a teammate up and running only to get 150 SL , this needs to have exp also.

[@sgkaptain6653]

In my opinion shoting down planes in GRB should give way more rewards than killing tanks since cas is way too OP (And grb needs to give more rp i hate when i Get 9 kills and i Get the same rp as if i got 2 kills in arb)

[@Mamba_1_1]

This coming from a guy that said there is nothing wrong with the grind lol

[@KTheStruggler]

I just wish they would give the premium perk where you can't lose SLs in a match to all players. I'm not good at the game, and getting up into rank 4/5 ground and nothing is more disheartening / rage inducing than watching your SL count dwindle to nothing because you're on a horrible streak

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

8:50 you do get points for tanking hits. Hell, I was playing in arcade yesterday in the STRV-103, got in a bad position, instantly disabled, but they couldn’t kill me. I took so many shots (pause) that I got 800+ score.

[@IG10705]

I've been having that happen lately get hits and no pens

[@chandradefiant595]

The real answer is for them to add more medals. “destroyed an enemy while in smoke” and “destroyed an enemy who’s within smoke” are easy adds.

[@manuelguedes9844]

I agree with the need to reward defensive flying in air. Also reduce the ground strike rewards for fighters and increase it for strike aircraft and bombers. Spading some coastal vehicles is such pain. It took me 229 battles to spade the USS Cyclone, a gun boat with mediocre 25 mm main guns at 3.7 that dies from fire of rank I boats.

[@darthstalinus3842]

For aviation they should try personalized srategic bombing targets for strike aircraft and bombers

[@danielbeale3558]

Also at top tier air you can spend the first few crucial minutes just dodging amrams and by the time you’re set to engage 90 percent of the enemy team is already eliminated leaving you next to nothing except to farm ai targets

[@andrewswitzer6334]

I would just prefer all that "free RP" get applied to whatever you are researching at the moment instead of being banked to spend GE on.

[@letsgobrandontrump2024]

I have almost 20 million free xp I’ll never use

[@HotWheels1776]

@@letsgobrandontrump2024 Yeah, I have slightly over 9 million banked RP. Gaijin please give us some way to use that XP without having to spend real money to do it

[@northythefosk7501]

@@HotWheels1776 An easy af way is let us use SL for it and it could be a lot of SL but still would be nice like 1k SL for like 500 RP or such

[@HotWheels1776]

@ that could work. At least it would be something

[@psychomusician1]

Having just over 70m free XP sat there for me is insane. Would be nice to have boosters that instead of giving like 50% RP it was 25%RP + 25% free XP conversion or something like that. I'd like to use some of the 70m

[@litrize1]

SPAA needs some serious help as far as rewards go, you do your job and shoot down an aircraft and are rewarded with barely any lions or RP and gets better rewards if used as a dang IFV....

[@igorborracini5722]

5:27 Playstyle buffs would be good overall, but would suck for countries like Italy where the only viable early jet is the F84G being forced into the strike role when it's actually a great fighter too

[@Viggo_06]

YES, gaijin hates their players so wont happen tho

[@Lead1121]

I will NEVER forget that back in the ground forces beta, the RP gain was on par with Air RB RP gain. The two small beta tech trees (USSR and Germany) were easily grinded to completion within the first few weeks of the beta, causing Gaijin to reduce RP gain, with the "promise" of bringing it back on par once the ground forces went live. The game progressed and they never changed it back, actually they reduced Air rewards to be somewhat in line with ground forces while also reducing ground RP gain. This has continued to get worse until recently where they brought back RP gain to somewhat "normal" rates after years of nerfs. ultimately we are still around the RP gain that the beta had years ago. This is unsatisfactory. The game needs RP gain to increase 2-3x more.

[@m10lover]

More bases however is needed, or bases that don’t die and can take infinite punishment

[@PUTLEADINURHEAD]

My position is this. Because there is just so much content in the game. Top tier vehicles should only need, no more than, 56,000 Rp and ~15,000 DP for upgrades. There is no need to increase rewards...just slash all existing grind requirements by 75% or more.

[@ToddMorgan-el5iy]

Rewards should increase based on difficulty: Sim > realistic > arcade. Remove damage cams, kill cams from sim and realistic - have them viewable in replays. Keep the cams for arcade. Allow players with premium accounts to ban up to 6 maps, and give thumbs up to six. There, game fixed - older player base returns, more money spent on game. Simple.

[@nicksober4763]

We need ground Enduring Confrontation and Air REALISTIC Enduring Confrontation

[@hurlios]

Man I totally forgot about that “area bonus” in air. It’s been so long

[@mariopatlevic7040]

The best time for that pressure was the last two years when we had a roadmap. This year Gaijin gave up on it as the demand died out. Nobody said anything about this. This shows that Gaijin is going back as usual. The grind for top tier is horendous and to get and enjoy anything there is just utterly painful.

[@slimygrimy-l7m]

No ... They need to change the game modes i played for 6 years i stopped last fall... Im DONE capturing the d point .. You can add as many vehicles as you want if the core gameplay hasent changed since the game came out its not going to ... Its always about the next unlock, the game could be ao much fun it has the tools but nope

[@halabhalab-t7f]

Imagine if in Air RB, you could get rewarded for being a target and getting your opponents attention for your teammates to kill them. Sounds very unreasonable but a bait and switch playstyle sounds interesting.

[@thatrandomswede8108]

love to just now find out you dont get anything for missile evasion when it even says "exp_missile_evasion"

[@Schmidt_64]

Also adding xp for scout assist even after the scout marker despawns. Maneuver Kills MUST be credited in air- especially if someone yolodives the closest enemy who does not die or if the only closest one is someone who dies to yolo that yolo should be rewarded/slight punishment to the teammate who died . Collision kills where 1 gets the kill and the other doesn't needs to revert to dual credit for each player as well. Also, a lot of kill assists in ground are simply not being credited if the player lives long enough later, they just somehow are considered anymore...

[@knutdrum430]

How about having Gaijin implement an animation where one of the crew members pops up from the hatch when using binoculars? It would add a nice dynamic touch to the game. Of course, integrating open hatch protection mechanics might be challenging, as well as creating animations for each tank with a hatch. But if something like this were to be added, we could definitely be buying custom skins for our tank commanders! -right? :D

[@combineconformist]

cosmetic stuff can come later

[@keatonwastaken]

Even with Premium, if you don't play for 6 hours a day, grinding even medium tier vehicles take days as an average player. I really don't think it should be this damn slow.

[@rominavvv261]

i think they can do ,that we can research vehicles with 2 rank less instead of 1 rank ,like with rank 4 vehicles you can research rank 3 to rank 6 , that would help a lot in the research grind

[@InternetLaser]

A lot of your statements about SPGs and heavy tanks relative to light and medium seem pretty exclusive to realistic. SPGs and Heavy tanks tend to dominate in arcade. I've always thought that doing things like killing an enemy with an ally in their sights (presumably saving that ally) could reward team play and better target prioritization. More ways to get base defender (like by sitting on the point to prevent capture in the first place rather than only by killing an enemy after they've initiated capturing the point) might incentivize objective play too.

[@turbrojewk]

All of these ideas make lots of sense. Too bad for us, Gainin is more concerned with making money than they are with making a game that people enjoy because it's actually satisfying to play.

[@keran6019]

First of all we should get more points for SPAA. SPAAs has always more research points needed to finish the vechicle on the same BR (quick examples: American 10.3 - Wolfpack has 214.100 points, and XM975 has 243.000 points). Also playing SPAAs is very specific and mostly boring, especially after you grind your way to missiles. Then you wait entire game for sometimes one plane that can still outmanouver your missiles or other 4 people in SPAA are gonna fuck it up before you notice... Playing SPAAs is mostly not a lot of fun in ground battles. So we need better rewards for it or finally add real GROUND battles without planes. It is unfair af, u want to play planes u play planes, u want to play tanks u get fucked constantly by bombs or rockets out of nowhere. But as soon as you take out with SPAA you can kill 5 planes and still get shit reward so its pointless to play it.

[@I3lackEye]

Agree with all of it

[@tendopain7526]

they need to add spotting to all ground vehicles and remove its association with aircraft

[@ace_ofchaos9292]

“Heheheh… ahahhaahhahaha! You’re serious?” -Gaijin

[@The1Maldo]

Would love if decapping in ground rb would actually give you points not only capping

[@J.G.Wentworth007]

Continue to fight, continue to stay alive, and continue to go forward! -TEC 3:40

[@Tir33nts343]

Gaijin won’t care, they want the money, I would really appreciate them increasing rewards for destroying ground troops in Air battles. I would also like them to increase rewards for shooting down planes in ground battles

[@meepmeep3018]

I love how I can drop like 15 kills in coastal and get 3k rp that's my favorite part

[@rahmanlinux9602]

THe base respawn needs overhaul(context: base bombing for bomber&attackers but faster jets ruins it)

[@azurge9997]

they need to remove the thing where you get less rp the more kills you get in grb, you need to pull a pure masterclass to get above 9k rp in grb with premium account. but in air rb u need like 1 kill and maybe an assist and u get 13k

[@n0ld0r86]

Gaijin can't milk the players for obscene amounts of money if the grind isn't mind-numbingly frustrating.

[@0li945]

Oh pls. I'm trying to spade every vehicle in swedish techtree since i have mained it and unlocked everything. This would be a godsend.

[@shikikanaz4624]

They should add extra rewards for spaas so more people play them. Rn, shooting down a aircraft is the same as destorying a ground target. Combined this with you maybe get 1 or 2 aircraft kills it's not very rewarding. This be even better as gaijin wants to add more and stronger spaas to counter the cas spam so itd be good if they added a small idle bonus for playing spaa so you dont miss out from instead playing a actual tank. They could also double or triple to rewards for a air kill as well

[@cjnewson88]

A slight boost to rewards would be helpful, but Gaijin has always been about using Premium accounts and Premium vehicles to reduce grind. And frankly, I don't mind that because it's still quite possible to grind the game without either. To use myself as an example, I finished the US tank tree long ago. Spaded most. I finished to US air tree somewhat recently. Spaded most. Same with the British tank tech tree and almost there with the British air tree. I did this with no premium account (except for a relatively short time many years ago)... Never bought a premium tank... Heck most my playing wasn't even focused on grind, I literally played hours of US Tanks even after I'd completed the tech tree, just for fun. So, even without paying any money for this game, it's still quite achievable to grind all the way to the end of top tier on the current rewards. A boost is always nice but the current grind is nowhere near as bad as for something like World of Warships..

[@JesseKF]

We used to get rp for dogfighting within 1km of each other... they already removed that.

[@dudemynameisdebo]

I have every Vehicle in the US, Russian and Swedish Tech trees. I would not care at all if Gaijin cut the grind into 1/3rd of what it is.

[@funwithmagnus8570]

I've finished three ground trees, I ground out three event vehicles and am struggling seriously when it comes to working through the air trees. I can't stand either air mode, probably because I'm bad at dogfighting. Most of my air rp has come from ground rb but I get F all rewards for downing 4 enemy aircraft and destroying two tanks. I can get more rp bombing bases with a tallied bomber and that is just hair rippingly boring. You get F all rewards for shooting down aircraft in an spaa, you get nothing for shooting down munitions. I guess their model has worked on me. It got me to buy tallies I otherwise wouldn't have.

[@pinchasthegris]

The normal grined should be as fast as premium at its current state.

[@TheUnseenWaffle]

I would like gajin to think about removing the penalty on RP. For example, if you use a 14.0, get 12k rp. All that rp should go to the vehicle in 1.7 if the vehicle you are using is aced. That's all. It would probably make the player feel more rewarded once they got to top tier and easily finish grinding out the rest of the tech tree. Or, make the reserved rp purchase via silver lions.

[@52BigHitter]

Bro no reason it should take a year+ to get to top tier even with premium. Ridiculous how long it takes to enjoy all the game

[@shikikanaz4624]

Heli rewards need a fix especially for pve. I reckon they should double to rewards but make it so it gives more rp for mods than the actual vehicle grind so lime 80% to module and 20% to the next heli

[@rpgenius2851]

I got a silver lion and rp reward pop up on only one occasion when I evaded a missile in ground RB

[@SeventhCircle77]

Finally someone talks about it. Grinding high tier ground with just premium time is horrible.

[@gindrinkersline3285]

For the love of all that is holy: choosing maps - if not that, increases the number of banned maps.

[@TheRiiiederner]

Idk, i just go through numbers today and realized that if i play every day just he 5 battles i could get top air top tier at the end of the year which doesn't seem like that slow

[@deca0]

They’ll be like “oh the air rewards are slower in ground than they are in air? Lets nerf air rewards!”

[@rcheysnarfs2747]

The game needs to add matchmaking playlist. Rotating specialty playlists too like how CoD does the 24/7 Shipment for example. I would play WT a LOT more if I could have a playlist that is only the city type maps. And I'm sure some others would love to have a 'large maps only' playlist.

[@ev0h]

If anything, all I ask for is to remove vehicle repair so I stop going in negative for grinding a game when I'm having a bad streak of games..

[@emilelerate6454]

It’s been time for like 3 years for ground to have more rp rewards.

[@StealthySpace7]

Air kill rewards in GRB need to be doubled at minimum. Also, you should get RP and SL for shooting down weapons. Why would I waste a missile on a maverick if it isn't going for me? I have incentive to keep it and let my team mate die because I'm down a missile now with nothing to show for it

[@abdullahebadr]

They should really increase the reward of hunting down a plane with SPAA.

[@Zaeryth_Redtail]

For ground, could we PLEASE get rewarded per tick while capturing bases and not just on completion. The amount of times I get no rp for caps because I die while on it, get forced to leave, or the game ends. Very frustrating

[@Shibafoom]

air was supposed to be PVE/PVP however if you dont get like half of the ground targets the rewards are a joke

[@raymondo6498]

i have this wild out of the box idea Why don't Gaijin come up with a new game mode that doesn't involve capturing a point ?? ........

[@FEnrir584]

If only we could get some type of targeting computer for spg’s would be great cause these vehicles haven’t been made to directly face the enemy

[@avbiker]

Maybe giving a little something something to the SPAA guys out there shooting down incoming missles. Nothing crazy just a little thank you for watching your teamates backs.

[@frederikjensby9273]

Rewards based on roles, would actualy make it fun to play stuff like strike aircrafts, rn my games are filled with Mig fighters, that goes for bases instead og fighting.

[@hades1890]

War Thunder should have been increasing rewards FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS, instead they slowly scraped off small bits every update just to try and make us pay to grind. I have used premium for years and I can say it is a redundant feature much like the RP system to the base of the tree, no one would buy the premium if they made the extra decal slots and skin sliders a separate feature. At this point they should just change RP to just be for modifications and let us just buy out the vehicles with SL since it's 10x easier to get that than their bs RP.

[@ValcryeTheSecond]

I just want to see ground level out with air. At top tier air, I can easily pull 10-20k rp with a mediocre match but exceedingly good ground RB games net me 10k at most. Literally all i want is for them to level it out more

[@mlgrocket]

the air grind i think is fine right now, they need to at the very least make ground and naval the same as air, which they were supposed to do last year. but we're still waiting on that, along with about half the roadmap. the missile evasion thing shouldn't give rewards until they fix it, as it likes to pop up for no reason. i've evaded missiles in ground battles, in a tank, with no missiles being fired from a single person.

[@Bandit0313]

I haven’t played WT in a month. Gave up. I’m not going to spend another 6 months to 1 year to grind out the German air tree just to get the Eurofighter. I already did that for all of US air and ground, not doing it again.

[@AxlePlaysGames]

Gaijin won’t change it because they want to sell top tier premiums