It's A Grill, A Smoker An Offset And Vertical Smoker All Wrapped Up Into One! LSG

[@PaulNeuburger]

I have this pit and it is worth every penny. It's the best cooker I have ever owned. Holds temp exceptionally well. Versatile and fun to cook on it different ways.

[@BallisticBBQ]

I'm really getting into these multi-use pits now. Thanks, Paul!

[@eriksyoung69]

Fantastic pit. We purchased this exact setup four years ago. Versatile to say the least. Try a CHUD/HILL STYLE COOK. ITS TRULY AMAZING. That burger video posting this more was also truly inspirational!

[@BallisticBBQ]

Thank you, Erik! Cheers!

[@chuy0331]

I grill way more than I smoke but still love smokin. this has been on the top of my list but with the price tag I have been doing my research. So Thank you for this great review, all I’ve seen is 2+ year old videos.

[@eriknealson4336]

Checks lots of boxes, and LSG longevity is great. Don't forget to wear gloves when adjusting those dampers.

[@ryanb4481]

I have the built-in version of this cooker and absolutely love it. Easily my favorite of all my outdoor cookers. I've gotten to where I'm using this for 70%-80% of my cooks now. It has completely replaced all of my charcoal cookers (Weber Kettle, WSM, Pit Barrel). I'm in the process of cleaning those up and moving them to storage. This grill does everything they do just as well or better and has a ton more space to do it. I have some tips/ideas for you but I'm looking forward to seeing what you throw at this first.

[@jaybooth4815]

I think everything LSG makes is very well constructed! Very versatile cooker! Thanks so much for sharing Greg! Cheers!

[@BallisticBBQ]

I agree, Jay. Cheers, brother!

[@ActualChef]

This thing is a beast. Wow. Love this.

[@bradbenn719]

I have had this exact cooker for a couple years and like you said it is very well made. There is a lot of learning curve with using this thing in its various functions. It's unique design means it doesn't necessarily do a great job at any of its various capabilities. If you have a variety of cookers, this one probably wouldn't get used very often. As an example, I have tried using it as an offset to cook a pork butt but wasn't that satisfied with the results. The butt needs to be on the bottom grate (top is way too hot), and fire management is very tricky if you are used to using a normal offset. Damper tweaking is essential to get consistent temps and it's not forgiving. Because of the proximity of the cooking area to the firebox, you can only use small splits, which burn quickly so you'll be feeding it constantly. It is easy to spike the temps. Also, because the exhaust is at the top of the hood, the smoke isn't channeled to where the meat is like a smoke collector on an offset. It's hard to get decent smoke on a butt in this configuration inmo. It's a very nice cooker that is useful but it's not a miracle setup. I love LSG, though, and have several of them.

[@BallisticBBQ]

Thanks for the comment. I'm looking forward to putting this to the test soon. I did a big rack of beef back ribs over low-direct heat the nigh I shot this video and they turned out amazing. We'll see how it works as an offset.

[@SilatShooter]

Thanks for your integrity in your comment. I immediately wondered if this would work as an offset due to the exact points you made. Like the separate fire boxes for grilling steaks one side and more delicate proteins on the other. Looks well made for sure. But like most things that try to be a jack of all trades, it's usually a master of none. Don't get me wrong, I like it, just not as a smoker.

[@chrisbrennan2208]

Can't wait to see you put this cooker through the paces

[@ambbrano3049]

I nearly bought one and your thoughts echoed what I assumed it would be like.If it had a rotisserie I for sure would have had one and used for direct cooking only as I love the adjustable coal bed..LSG make excellent products and love mine.If you are struggling for space it’s a nice option but I have offsets and they can’t be beaten.

[@charlesschwartz3445]

I have this grill. The best single steak I make I cook on this grill. I put 3 inch bone in ribeyes on the left chamber without any fire below. I put the heat source in the other chamber, making the grill an efficient and easy to use offset. I cook the ribeyes to 120 degrees. Then, I move the coals on the right side to high and literally finish the steaks to 130 degrees in the flames. I rest the steaks and then cut and serve. Best steaks I grill and I grill a lot of steaks.

[@user-ho1yn6ms7y]

It’s not cheap, but there’s no doubt the build quality on this is absolutely top-notch. Lots of thought and attention to detail went into this cooker.

[@BallisticBBQ]

Exactly! I appreciate the view and your comment. Cheers!

[@blackshirt5530]

You gotta do a tour of your grills/backyard!!!! Looks like bbq paradise

[@s.taylor5029]

I have that same grill as well. I love the Santa Maria style cook ability. Ive done ribs, brisket, and pork butt on it. Great smoke flavor! Cant wait to see more cook vids on it.

[@BallisticBBQ]

I'm looking forward to putting this to the tests. I did beef ribs a few hours after the burn-in and they were amazing!

[@SmokinJoesPitBBQ]

Beautiful cooker!

[@drillsgtlangdon]

So far, it seems like an awesome pc of equipment. As for the test: Before purchasing any grill, I always say, Cook a brisket! While cooking it, explain and show us all we need to know during the cook. (Fire management, damper/Flu control etc)

[@BallisticBBQ]

I'll do a brisket, but I'm going to run a few other cooks first.

[@drillsgtlangdon]

@@BallisticBBQ Looking forward to it

[@bobbicatton]

Undeniable quality with LSG. Enjoy👍😊

[@BallisticBBQ]

Such a great company. Cheers, Bobbi!

[@0347kali]

I've been using a kettle for 20 years. I love the size of this grill. Can't decide if I should go this direction or the El.Patron.

[@vinht4189]

Exactly my dilemma as well

[@garyjennings9458]

Looking forward to seeing you use this beast! Thanks for the introduction Greg!

[@BallisticBBQ]

Thank you, Gary! I'm looking forward to more cooks. I did beef ribs after the burn in and they turned out really good!

[@garyjennings9458]

😋beef ribs are my favorite

[@tonystrades8007]

Greg I completely forgot about this channel went back and saw you responded and your right you did make wings had to bench watch a few of them had to go back almost 10 years time for some new ones thanks I just turned my notification for this channel too

[@BallisticBBQ]

LOL! Now worries, Tony. I'll get some updated wing cooks for you on this channel brother. It's been a while!

[@KillerMillerQue]

Great review... and that grill is looking better and better! I might have to go back to LSG..🤔

[@robertjason6885]

What I’d like to see you do with this cooker? Hmm… ship it to me!!! That thing is incredible!

[@gofy8481]

I also own this grill, and it is the best. I owned a Pitt and Spitts Charcoal Grill, and a Pitt and Spitts Pellet Smoker. LSG is FAAAAAR better built, and more functional. Individual fuel adjustment, fuel doors, etc, it goes on and on. It is just better than anything out there. I own a Yoder pellet smoker, which is good, but I am going to get the LSG pellet smoker, I think I will find it is also the best.

[@dogsubx2]

Looks like a really nice cooker. The only thing else i'd want is a probe port. Any backyard cooker that is expected to BBQ or smoke should have probe ports IMO. i'd just prefer not to prematurely wear the gasket with probe wires.

[@txfieros]

Reminds me a lot of the Pitts and Spitts charcoal grill with the tall roll top lid instead of the short cover. The two divided sections is pretty nice though.

[@dwaynewladyka577]

Very impressive. Cheers, Greg! 👍🏻👍🏻✌️

[@OptimusPrime-x9x]

That’s for cooking for a large family. I’m happy with my Ninja Woodfire

[@barriosjose76jb]

Awesome BBQ pit! Very versatile!

[@BallisticBBQ]

It sure is! Cheers!

[@wolverinegnr]

Looking forward to seeing you cook on this

[@michaelcollier5164]

Nice overview. You've reviewed a lot of smokers/cookers. How about a tour of which ones you have kept and which ones you might have moved along and why. Seems that your backyard might be a bit over crowded.

[@davisgrove8931]

Another great video! You get all the fun toys!

[@BallisticBBQ]

Thanks, Davis!

[@Isovapor]

This is the charcoal grill I want! I just need $4000 and permission from my wife! Cheers!

[@BallisticBBQ]

LOL! Believe me, I get it!

[@MichaelLamerique]

me too!!!

[@surfingonmars8979]

My wife said, “Yes, dear. Of course. Anything you want, honey. You deserve it.” Alas she was not actually talking to me…….

[@user-cm3wd5hk1p]

The money is the easy part!

[@surfingonmars8979]

@@user-cm3wd5hk1p My first THREE cars and two motorcycles didn’t cast that much ADDED UP! Of course, that was a long time ago, and one motorcycle was abandoned by an older cousin who left for Vietnam, and the cars were such junkers that the guys probably woulda paid me to haul them away if I knew what I was doing in the negotiations. But, still…..

[@garryhammond3117]

Wow Greg! - This unit is amazing. - I'm surprised there are not two thermometers - one over each side, as they can run quite independantly, other than that, I can't wait for your cooks! - Cheers!

[@jgsimonian]

They have an option for that, which is what I opted for.

[@wolverinegnr]

Damn Greg just when I thought the El patron was the one you introduce this one😂 now I’m undecided lol

[@erokbrewmeister9231]

I want one of those LSGs !!!

[@thommtum]

I absolutely love mine. Do a smoked turkey on it.

[@dank9288639]

damn i need a 70% raise so i can buy all the lone star grillz damn it 😂

[@bradbenn719]

The longshoremen's union will be hiring right after they shut down this country.

[@hbgriss]

Very rad set up 🤘🏼

[@BallisticBBQ]

I think so too!

[@crd26a]

Any plans and / or timing of plans to do a comparison with the El Patron? I'd love to see pluses / minuses and how they stack up. Also, a comparison of those vs. A kamado would be amazing

[@BallisticBBQ]

Great idea. As soon as I get a few cooks out of this, I can do a comparison.

[@shumardi1]

@@BallisticBBQ I would love to see that!

[@jojocircus7178]

Seconded. U Must do this. Pls!

[@markwindholz816]

Its missing one attachment that would take it a step further to being an even better grill. And thats a rotisserie attachment. All that 304 stainless, double wall, heavy gauge metal must carry a hefty price tag. Lol.

[@bradbenn719]

There's no place to put a rotisserie setup on this grill because the entire hood rests at bottom grate level. It would require a frame separate from the hood to hold the motor and rod and would need cutouts in the hood to accommodate it.

[@keletienne7947]

I was thinking rotisserie as well heh

[@cubanmama4564]

Great video. We are trying to decide between this cooker and the El Patron. Being able to build it is a nice option. I do not see a rotisserie option. Would you consider releasing a video showing how to cook something on this grill? Ribs? Brisket? Pork shoulder? Chicken?

[@BallisticBBQ]

100%! I did a nice rack of beef back ribs after I burned this in, and they were amazing! I'll be putting all of the low n slow options to the test.

[@cubanmama4564]

@@BallisticBBQ is there a way to add a rotisserie to this BBQ? We looked at the El Patron but it is not capable of building into an island and is smaller. We are getting rid of a Primo Junior and a Santa Maria grill and replace them with this larger grill/smoker.

[@ivse9696]

Wonderful Grill 👍👍👍

[@BallisticBBQ]

Thank you 😋

[@erickgt13]

Could you do a comparison between this one and el patron. Or provide suggestions on which to pick.

[@SpYucaipaSoCal]

I wouldn’t call it a offset with much potential. You end up with 24”square to smoke on. Anything else you can do on a Weber.

[@jasonpapas5815]

Greg, if you could only have either the ACG or the El Patron, which would you choose?

[@KayJay940]

I grill on my offset / firebox all the time. You just need good cast iron grate. I dont grill on the smoker itself because im not cooking 300 burgers at a time nor would I want to deal with the cleanup.

[@jarjon5]

I did not see any negatives which means it’s perfect. Fabulous! I guess everyone else can disappear.

[@beardedchef5756]

I am getting a pellet smoker from them with a charcoal basket basket and cover.

[@micalo31]

I've been wanting to get tis grill for a while. I've always wandered if you could do a whole hog on this pit. You have the room it seems and the zones for controlling heat at the shoulders and legs. Good distance from heat. Just a thought

[@BallisticBBQ]

I was wondering the same thing. You couldn't do a real big hog, but I think it could be done.

[@thebiffer100]

Greg can you offer your opinion please if this LSG vs the El Patron will be able to burn log splits only if I desire with that true offset flavor? Thank you for your reply in advance.

[@kellymccoy8500]

Looks good

[@erichoehn8262]

Wow! I wold love to see you do a Turkey on it

[@BallisticBBQ]

Good call!

[@MrFrame1979]

I have the 20x42” LSG offset, which I looove! I was thinking about the Santa Maria, but now I’m looking at this one again. I know you have a Santa Maria, so what are your thoughts on the two? One pro to the SM is the rotisserie. Anything else?

[@davecowan4174]

Beautiful unit. A question about burn in: I have always run a fire first to get rid of manufacturing stuff and then sprayed and ran another fire. I was concerned that spraying first could seal in the manufacturing stuff. Any comment?

[@lynncox760]

Bang on correct Dave. I personally would get it raging hot to around 500f for about an hour minimum then let it cool. Then apply a high temp oil to the internals and wipe off any excess. Then run it to 425 for an hour. Let it cool. Once more with high temp oil (avocado oil works wonders just pour it into a pump sprayer) then do a couple more rounds spraying and wiping down just the grates and you will have a well seasoned grill that will wipe clean fairly easily. Basically, treat your grill like you would a good iron skillet.

[@mikedupuis1003]

You should have two thermometers instead of one in the middle. How accurate it would be not sure but i think it would help. Mike

[@ChrisSmith-rm6xl]

Just to save everyone from looking it up, it's $3400.00. Not unreasonable for hand crafted stainless steel, but that's a lot ofvmoney.

[@frederickturgeon4921]

How does it compare to the El Patron?

[@BabyBackManiac]

i’m not sure if you’re familiar with a “cheeseburger.“ But if so, I would like you to make one with that. All kidding aside, What a freaking tank! That is such a beautiful, well-built machine! Great walk through!

[@BallisticBBQ]

LOL! I'll make a 20 pound cheeseburger for you! I just came up with that idea by the way. Cheers, Justin!

[@Istaygrilling]

Stainless steel latches and dampers are nice and all but where the heck are the handles? Looks like an awesome 1 size fits all tho.

[@BallisticBBQ]

If you're talking about the firebox doors, the 1/8" thick latches serve as the handles. The doors open downwards so that's really all they need.

[@hazman440]

Very nice ...

[@jojocircus7178]

Cant help but imagine this grill with the grates from the L Patron

[@06314]

I’m gonna purchase the el patron how would you compare this cooker to the el patron should I stick with purchasing the el patron

[@BallisticBBQ]

I really love the El Patron and this burger was only my second cook on this grill. If you're wanting an answer right now, stick with El Patron. I haven't done any long low and slow cooks on this, but I'm very optimistic.

[@kencritlindemann]

Gosh, I’m at the same decision point as @06314. I was literally about to place my order for the El Patron after watching your review of it for the fourth time. I was convinced El Patron represented the best versatility/functionality ratio for my purposes. Now I am wondering which unit suits me better, however, I am leaning toward longer splits, rotisserie and fire bricks over what I see with this unit (pizza is not a high priority for me). I wish you could enunciate a clear distinction between the two LSG grills (besides versatility), but I do realize you need more time with this guy before you can draw concrete conclusions.

[@wolverinegnr]

Hi Greg do you like this over your sunterra Santa Maria grill with brasero? Thanks

[@spageddie3266]

What can you say about Lone Star Grillz Vertical Smoker and their Smoker Cabinet? Are they as good and same flavor profile as their offset stick burner?

[@BallisticBBQ]

So, I have never cooked on one of their insulated cabinet smokers, but I had their offset vertical and now own the offset cabinet and they produce the same results and the traditional horizontal offsets. They are offset using splits and the only real difference that I've noticed is the much smaller footprint.

[@joshhoffman1975]

Greg is the master of everythng! ❤🎉💯🏆😄😁😆

[@wwjj64]

Ive been looking at this grill for years to replace my Hasty Bake, but its just so $$$$

[@marijnl]

I wish this would be available in Europe.

[@GoatRoper911]

Is this better than the LSG "El Patron" and if so, how? I was about to order that one.

[@BallisticBBQ]

Ask me this question after I have a few more cooks on both pits. This was only my 4th cook on the grill. I'll give my opinion, though. I can say, as a grill, this has the advantage of two adjustable charcoal grates.

[@GoatRoper911]

@@BallisticBBQ Bummer it doesn't have the pizza door and it is substantially more expensive. Chris is making this confusing!

[@albeenokrokadil]

Those vent handles need rubber sleeves, otherwise, too hot to adjust midcook.

[@AA-BB]

If you want wheels on it it’s only an extra $300 🤣

[@BallisticBBQ]

Well, that's for a cart with wheels. Just like all of the built-to-order Santa Maria pits, the base price is for a built in grill. Carts are extra.

[@jimcourtney3451]

I think his point is how do they justify adding four wheels for $300. They are pricing the average consumer out of their market.

[@zacharysmith7872]

@@jimcourtney3451 LSG stuff isn't for the average consumer. That's fine, there are ton of great choices for the average consumer. Is everything supposed to be average?

[@jimcourtney3451]

If you’re willing to pay $300 for four plastic wheels then there’s always a market for consumers like yourself. I realize it’s a fine cooker but come on.

[@zacharysmith7872]

@@jimcourtney3451 That's for a 24x48 steel cart with industrial casters made of steel. Are you being intentionally obtuse?

[@JorgeRodriguez-or6pz]

Price and where do I get one?

[@rickhale6396]

I would like to see a smoke like a offset .

[@BallisticBBQ]

It will happen soon!

[@morpheus6d9]

Nice shirt

[@wwjj64]

where are the videos using this grill?

[@Mr.Burton17]

Awesome cooker for sure but the 4g is a mother

[@chip6515]

not seeing the flat top accessory when trying to order . i see all the other options but not that one

[@BallisticBBQ]

Here it is, it works one El Patron as well... Not just the pellet smoker. lonestargrillz.com/collections/accessories/products/pellet-smoker-la-plancha

[@toddpower4674]

I like.

[@paulmarion3290]

They need to make that 5 feet wide by 6 feet long for whole hog with wheels under it to pull it behind a truck and a large wood basket in front plus a battery operated crane to lift the 200 pound pig into the smoker .

[@jeremywoodall9800]

Am I missing something? I see grilling options but how can you use this for cooking a brisket like you would on an offset? How can you evenly cook a brisket with the fire on one side. The heat transfer can’t be even. Since the “cold” side is so small one side of the brisket is going to be getting much hotter than the other. I have so many questions. It appears to me that it would be a great direct heat cooker with wood or charcoals but any other indirect smoking/cooking seems problematic. And for the price, you could get 3 different cookers for three different types of smoking/bbq/grilling that will do better jobs at what it was designed for, and save money. Some one prove me wrong I’m not trying to hate I just don’t see it.

[@BallisticBBQ]

Yes, you’re missing something.

[@salvatorecarapazza248]

Fuckin' awesome!

[@johnmanzo9329]

Does it have any temp probe ports?

[@BallisticBBQ]

It does not, you'd have to pass the wires under the lit, but the gasket keeps the seal.

[@johnmanzo9329]

@@BallisticBBQ Thanks

[@Jbennyho]

Does it come in a smaller version like maybe 36”

[@BallisticBBQ]

It does not, but that's a great idea.

[@TreyBergeron]

Check out the El Patron, it basically looks like a smaller version of this

[@paulludtke6076]

@BallisticBBQ I reached out to LSG to see if they have a 36 inch unit. ​Chris replied they do not. I love all the features of this grill but I don't need a grill this big. It's not the cost for me, it's the physical size. If you work with LSG a lot maybe you can help suggest a smaller unit. Even a 42 inch would be better.

[@Ralphie_Boy]

👍👍

[@moegreen40]

I think the Patron would be a better choice for me.

[@BallisticBBQ]

You can't go wrong with the El Patron. If your cooking leans towards grilling, this may be the choice though.

[@shumardi1]

@@BallisticBBQ I don’t know. You have the height adjustable charcoal grates in El Patron that can also be used as heat deflectors if you want to smoke. Looks to me like El Patron would be a good grill. Since El in Spanish means “the”, I have a hard time saying “the El Patron”.

[@StevenLibrizzi]

What is the price for it

[@twinheatingairconditioning135]

2 fire boxes 1 thermometer.

[@arturob3069]

cybergrill

[@waymor2460]

All-in-one cookers generally aren’t great at any one cooking method. I have one smoker and one grill which work perfectly. Was this sponsored?

[@BallisticBBQ]

Well, of course the grill will work perfectly as a grill. I agree that your argument could stand as far as the offset style cooking, but we will see in future videos. I can tell you that I did a rack of beef ribs for the family after the burn-in and I was impressed. Yes, LSG is one of my sponsors and I did activate the "Sponsored Video" notification which popped up on the screen at the beginning of the video. I also advised that the video was sponsored in the description box.

[@richb2229]

A Swiss Army knife doesn’t do anything well. It’s a compromise between all the things it does.

[@shumardi1]

I agree. In my mind it is a matter of how many grills you want to buy and how many you have room for. Or is there a particular type of cooking that you want to specialize in and you buy a cooker particular to that style of cooking

[@marijnl]

After years of trying in a regular oven and on the pizzastones etc on grills I finally splurged on an actual pizzaoven with professional refractory floor (on wood and gas) and man let me tell you, nothing beats it. Finally. But it is expensive, very hard to manoeuvre of course. That's the downside of the best tools for every job.

[@tarnamoss4391]

A brother i would like to request from you coming from Florida 3 packer briskets on your new cooker! Thanks

[@erictrier1217]

Two burn pots and only one temp gauge???

[@coreym8145]

are you not supposed to have this notified as a promotional video.

[@BallisticBBQ]

I'm guessing you didn't see the "Includes Paid Promotion" at the beginning of the video? Take another look.

[@ajk374]

There are too many compromises. Just get a smoker and a separate grill.

[@BallisticBBQ]

What are the compromises?

[@JoeJoSounds]

3700 dollars for this thing. Yikes!

[@3pedal372]

Have you looked at any bbq prices lately?

[@BallisticBBQ]

You get what you pay for.

[@JoeJoSounds]

@@BallisticBBQ I am sure you are right about that! I have watched your channel for a long time. I have used your recipes on my Pit Barrel smoker. You have made me long for that sunterra Argentine grill. I think you and your channel are just great! I am sure this grill is top notch and cheers to those who can afford it. Sadly I can’t, nothing wrong with that but I am sure I am not alone in trying to justify almost 4k for a grill. Maybe not🤷‍♂️. Either way keep up the good work and thanks for doing what you do.

[@darrellm.9622]

HOLD UP HOLD UP.... U SAID U USED PAM SPRAY BUT U telling everyone to use a FAT GREASE....WELLL WHY U DIDN'T USE BACON GREASE

[@SteveH-nf2ts]

wow, sorry not that rich. nice though.

[@MrDanbecker]

🙂👍🥂

[@danieltroska5480]

Way to exspensive man!,even to pricey for a pro earning à living with it.😢

[@GabrielGonzalez-mn9fz]

It does everything but none of it well

[@frederickturgeon4921]

How does it compare to the Yoder 48” flat top grill, Competition model.