It's a mystery how Velma got greenlit. (Velma episode 3 and 4 review)

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Velma still sucks. There's no character or plot development and just when it seems something interesting is going to happen they drop it for more forced drama and Velma judging everybody.
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[@crownedshyness9656]

Perhaps we treated Scrappy Doo too harshly.

[@MirandaSinistra]

Much like Jar Jar Binks, I would take Scrappy Doo in a heartbeat over these characters.

[@bashamd96]

I'd gladly would take a Scrappy show over this garbage

[@SamtheBravesFan]

Scrappy never should have gotten the hate he did. It was just a one-note joke they beat into the ground and when they had him in shows without yakking about Puppy Power, he was fine.

[@SapphireKnight675]

@@SamtheBravesFan pretty much a kid dragging his uncles into trouble

[@WakoDoodle]

maybe it's just me, but scrappy doo wasn't annoying in Scooby Doo and the Ghoul School as much as the series. I don't know why though. Maybe they tonned him down? But he was the least annoying to me out of all the movies, so I wouldn't mind him returning if they developed him more. Then again the kid they introduced later annoyed me more as a kid than scrappy so maybe im biased?

[@brendancoulter5761]

So Velma is basically just a self insert for the main writer, and now every major character is in love with her. Wow.

[@Chrisfragger1]

Mindy Sue?

[@masterDarts4188]

Its literally the Mary sue arc.

[@pokepwned]

The hilarious part is that she’s treated in the show the exact same way a Mary Sue would be treated (i.e., loved by all of her peers and praised constantly regardless of what the audience thinks) but she’s not only extremely flawed but actually has little to no redeeming qualities

[@jeanieolahful]

And everyone hates it. I wonder why?

[@brianjohnson5620]

Narcissistic writer who got a touch of fame in a TV series and some movies as side characters, then got her own show for 5 seasons. Then for the next 5 years back to being the side character, pit a show idea to WB, where some executives looked at it and at exist IPs, told the writer they will do her script if she reworked the character to be the Scooby-Doo gang.

[@slugyourpal]

The mystery Velma should really be investigating is how this show got the thumbs up from HBO.

[@mapleflower]

It’s a mystery on why the hell THIS got approved and why infinity train got booted.

[@mlys7184]

Two reasons... #1 Contracts with weird clauses #2 Not a very faithful person (hint... the TV exec is white)

[@VileGlory]

These are probably the same people who approved Q-Force and Magical Girl Friendship Squad.

[@capricola8682]

The MESSAGE

[@gulinp1]

Privileged women of color pitches show about her, but hides behind popular IP. It's on HBO and dumbasses who got bullied into this nonsense. Mindy, apsolutley is privileged women from day she was born (father achytecht, mother gynecologist). She went to private school, private college... Everything she knows about inequalities she learned from equally privileged people raised with golden spoon , on social medias such is twitter. And this show is great example of person out of touch with real world, trying to make social points. It feels off because she never lived through any of it. It's as offputting as man trying to talk about female struggles. This is in general massive issue with Hollywood today. Majority of Hollywood top tear people are golden generation- golden-spoon fed narcissistic egomaniacs. And ofc they can't make good stories ( or create nothing new ) since non of them every experienced any obysticle in their lifes. Now compare new directors with some Kubrick or Hitchcock

[@melantharosewood]

I find all three of those people being in love with Velma very hard to believe, because Velma attacked Daphne with a crowbar, he made fun of “Norville,” and she humiliated Fred despite being attracted to him. I have no problem with shipping in the Scooby-Doo franchise, I will only like it or give it a pass if it’s well executed and the timing is right. This failed miserably with shipping.

[@MrSuckeragi]

shipwrecked

[@kikiblue7169]

she is mindy's self insert, this is just bad fan fiction

[@MrMarcocain]

That’s what happens when a narcissist self inserts.

[@wilamblack8372]

Dude I just realised that yeah she has all members of her friend group into her...freaking reeks.

[@Dmenjivar22]

What does that even mean? Shipping in the franchise ? Huh ???

[@Nonjola]

You know, other shows had to ban attractive female characters such as Hello Nurse and Miss Bellum for being too sexy, and others such as She-Ra had to be completely re-designed to be less sexual. But then we get a show, such as Velma, that completely sexualizes teenagers. The industry is so hypocritical when it comes to certain things.

[@gameragodzilla]

I mean, look at Sony censoring even panty shots for many Japanese games, but then allows an extremely cringe inducing sex scene in TLOU2. lol

[@huntergman8338]

Yes, because it's only bad if men could ever enjoy it. But if women or people on the same political side, it's fine.

[@michaelknox3715]

Bruh the She Ra reboot had nice character designs wtf are you smoking

[@huntergman8338]

​@@michaelknox3715 No, they didn't. Those designs where basically your average tumblr art crap. They wouldn't look out of place in Steven universe. She ra went from looking like an actual woman to an effeminate teenage boy. Which is most women in modern media now. At least in the west.

[@GalaxicNerd]

@@huntergman8338 you can dislike a design all you like, but i genuinely cant take your opinion seriously if all you have to say about it is that it "looks like tumblr art crap." That doesnt actually mean anything.

[@bballballin21]

I think I cracked the case, the killer is Velma because she has an alter ego. The mystery behind her missing mother, is that she’s been dead for years and Velma is in denial about it.

[@jturner2577]

That would actually be an interesting twist. If only the show was good.

[@TestyCool]

I bet the old Scooby Doo crew would have solved the murder mystery in a single episode.

[@dwaneanderson8039]

Maybe Velma murdered her own mom and buried her in a shallow grave.

[@EEsYouTubeChanel]

I totally agree! And her “hallucinations” are half projection while she actually goes off on a murder spree. It’s never someone Velma forms attachments to that dies

[@rdphoenix07]

I personally think Velma's mom took off because she couldn't stand her god-awful daughter. In fact, I bet she's the killer.

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

I've had more fun watching reviews of Velma than watching the actual show.

[@chinjianle269]

The only time spoilers is ok

[@Baldjotarokujo]

Ill ONLY watch the reviews tbh

[@mr.vargas5648]

Velma has really made me realise what horrible people the left is.

[@Missmiserie]

Same I haven’t even watched the show I started out watching reviews so I could get an idea of if it’s a waste of time… and so far it seems like a flaming dumpster of a show

[@einsamerkeks5977]

Some! The reviews have more production quality behind them than the entire show

[@mir6629]

This show is literally just a self-insert. The mystery aspects of this show are neglected just so Mindy Kaling can fantasize abt these characters crushing on her

[@rdphoenix07]

I'll bet Mindy and the writers don't know jack-sh*t about writing mysteries, just like the writers for She-Hulk knew jack-sh*t about writing courtroom cases.

[@mr.vargas5648]

Every character in the show is a self-insert. That why they are all horrible people. The jokes are so weird. Is this what millennials find funny?

[@sangheiliwarrior86]

@@mr.vargas5648 Who would willingly self insert into Fred or -Shaggy- Norville?

[@if7723]

@@mr.vargas5648 Sir, no one except the insane writers and maybe the producers finds this funny. But it is getting views so I at least get the producers.

[@xxvskrunkle]

@@mr.vargas5648 we do not

[@guilherme5094]

I would forgive half of Velma's bad things if it was just funny. Saying no to modern 'entertainment' has never been easier.

[@TheMasterYapper]

I don't know why but I foundthe show entertaining. Pls help

[@mr.vargas5648]

Why would you forgive this toxic ahole of a character that bullies manipulates and guilt trip everybody around her?

[@mjsugod1385]

@@TheMasterYapper Rest in Piss

[@liammccoy5604]

Characters who are shitty people can be entertaining (It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia comes to mind) but you have to actually have good writing and character chemistry. I didn’t watch Velma past episode 2 but based on what I’ve heard, it doesn’t get better after those first episodes.

[@if7723]

@@liammccoy5604 That, and the world they live in has to know they're shitty and not Jesus 2.0.

[@MirandaSinistra]

I really wish the teacher had responded to Velma's unbelievable stupid question with a dose of reality. Like the fact that any person willing to become a serial killer wouldn't attend a class about not murdering people.

[@lilchristuten7568]

Or you know, because a serial killer wouldn't change because of a class "teaching" them not to kill people and instead would likely set them off. Such a class would just beat them over the head about how wrong it is to kill people which wouldn't help in the slightest.

[@pokepwned]

To be fair the girls were forced to take that self-defense class so it would likely be the same for the boys and the “not murdering people” class, regardless of how stupidly ineffective that would be in practice

[@NathanPatrickLane]

@@lilchristuten7568 Just like how DARE programs increase the likelihood of students becoming drug users

[@lilchristuten7568]

@@NathanPatrickLane Yeah teaching ignorant kids about the types of drugs that are out there is a really stupid idea if you don't want them to use them.

[@koatam]

@@lilchristuten7568 It's also something that can't just be changed with a class. They already know they are breaking the law, they know it's immoral, they are fully aware of everything. Successful serial killers don't care. In what universe is someone this deranged swayed by a low budget high school PSA.

[@azzburgersaf1973]

It's pretty much a badly written harem fanfic. The protagonist is the Author's self insert OC character and there are over three characters that have fallen head over heels for the MC, despite the MC doing little or nothing at all to earn it.

[@Dave102693]

Sounds like a lot of harem anime

[@rdphoenix07]

@@Dave102693 Yeah, a very poorly written harem anime.

[@if7723]

@@rdphoenix07 This would have to be a poorly adapted harem anime, those things are usually just 1:1 of the source material with filter effects. I don't know if they could deviate from source material this hard.

[@MasticinaAkicta]

The type that on webtoons would end up nr 250th top harem stories....

[@krajicsek13]

So it's My Immortal 2

[@thefirstofthelastones8952]

Mindy Kaling should be arrested for making this.

[@animezilla4486]

The only ones that should be arrested are the executives that greenlit the project

[@thefirstofthelastones8952]

@@animezilla4486 Or how about every idiot that worked on this show... Like holy balls, if I were in charge of Warner Bros. I would've not only reject this show but also burn the freakin script, a show this terrible shouldn't eveb exist! Heck Koala Man on Hulu is more entertaining than this!

[@GatlingPea32]

More like, execute her by firing squad

[@vallerianredha8822]

She's admitting to assaulted her own male coworker, she's just another amber heard.

[@heavenlyarianator6335]

The gang unmasks the villain to discover mindy

[@FoNgThOnG]

I like how Velma doesn't even need the glasses. She's only wearing it cause it belonged to her mom.

[@jacobc8036]

Wasn't one of the running jokes in every other series is she can't see without her glasses!

[@Kanyon85]

We went from "I can't see without my glasses" to "I can't be seen without my glasses"

[@jacobc8036]

@@Kanyon85 don't drag Johnny Bravo down to this shows level like that!

[@Mupyeong]

It's because these types of people are all about pretending. In this case, pretending to be capable showrunners.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@Mupyeong That's why most actors shouldn't be given creative jobs. Their entire job is pretending.

[@stormevans6897]

Rewatching that single King of The Hill scene made me laugh harder than every episode of this series combined.

[@EEsYouTubeChanel]

Bobby Hill is voiced by Pamela Adlon a woman That’s the underlying humor Also when Peggy Hill says she “doesn’t have a groin” is hilarious

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

That actually got a chuckle out of me

[@fumomofumosarum5893]

​@@EEsKZbinChanel is it though...? is it really...?

[@AliMohamed-fu5lc]

@@fumomofumosarum5893 idk what that person is saying, the VA for bobby genuinely provides no underlying humor. Thats like saying everything bart simpson says is inherently funny because he is voiced by a woman. Its the scene itself that is the humor.

[@jendoe9436]

“That’s my purse! I don’t know you!” My brothers and I drove each other crazy by shouting it at each other 😂 What’s pretty interesting is that before that scene, the instructor (rightfully) asks why Bobby is in a Women’s Self-Defense class. He responds with something like “I hate men, just like you.” Her immediate response is something like “I don’t hate men. I just don’t want to be a victim.” It went over my head as a kid, but as an adult I totally get and fully support her point. 👍 That whole episode is hilarious, and KotH is honestly one of the best shows to tackle topical issues while still being entertaining.

[@jakesimpson3373]

If Fred got released from prison, then doesn’t that make Velma the prime suspect again?

[@Damianweibler]

They say that people who use logic to make sense of her show will find Mindy waiting outside your window

[@Trular-kreyss]

@ForeverDreamWithinADream Everyone also forget fact girl that Daphne was trying to drown in snower was found murdered.

[@Reikotsu]

So every single person is in love with Velma now? Bruh, what kind of sick self-insert fantasy is Mindy having here?

[@crazygur1y]

For real, you gotta be likeable for people to, you know, like you

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Some may write this show off as some bad Fanfiction but you gotta remember than even Fanfiction has some sort of respect and love for the Source material. Velma doesn’t

[@jturner2577]

There are dozens if thousands of fanfics that are not only better then Velma but are spectacular in their own right.

[@talithakoum3922]

Well said.

[@angelsartandgaming]

Heck I've seen better self insert fanfics that were better than this. At least fanfic writers have a love for whatever they're adapting.

[@wesstewart2677]

Yeah, I’m 100% confident I could find a fanfic online right now blindly that would be better to adapt into an adult animated show of Scooby-Doo. fanfics/headcannon just is better sometimes imo.

[@michaellarose4913]

@@angelsartandgaming Same, this is just bad. I mean they don't even focus on what should be the focus of the show, the mystery. Instead, they're focusing on teen drama and shipping characters without any development or reason. there's a reason this show is halfway over and the gang is no closer to solving the mystery. If this was canon scooby doo, they would have figured things out by now or have a pretty solid idea of whose behind it besides a person whose been missing for a couple years.

[@Underworlddream]

With the show obssestion with stereotype and with the show having Daphne knowing how to fight, I wonder if they make Daphne Asian because in the movies and shows it shown that Daphne knows Martial Art.

[@DaHuntsman1]

honestly with how racist this show has been so far, i wouldn't put it beyond them to have done that

[@VileGlory]

And with her dealing drugs in the previous episode, I'm surprise she doesn't have ties to the Triad.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

@@VileGlory Give it a few episodes.

[@TheCrimsonElite666]

Honestly surprised that the writers haven't made her go full Hollywood Asian by making it so that she's obsessed with honour.

[@omorinintendoswitchedition]

Velma is the biggest Y/N-like character I’ve ever seen

[@luluzin5022]

Except I've read fanfiction where Y/N is an actual decent human being 😂 The point of Y/N is having little personality, but good enough to be relatable to the reader. Whoever relates to Velma needs to be treated for narcissistic and sociopathic disorder.

[@Arcademan09]

What'd y/n

[@Antisocial_Cryptid13]

@@Arcademan09 Y/N stands for "Your Name". It's used in self-insert fanfiction.

[@Jane-ow7sr]

I hate how they made Norville's dad look like older Shaggy 😭 complete slap in the face

[@budwyzer77]

He's voiced by Shaggy's live-action actor Matt Lillard. Fred's dad is voiced by the real Fred/Megatron Frank Welker. I doubt either man got full scripts beyond their own lines.

[@Jane-ow7sr]

@@budwyzer77 must be desperate for cash huh

[@budwyzer77]

@@Jane-ow7sr They probably only saw their own lines and had no idea of how bad this was going to be.

[@mattm8870]

@@budwyzer77 The project been in the works for over 2 years so it possible they signed up based on a completely different script.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

@@budwyzer77 Actually, Norville's dad is played by Gary Cole. You know, Mayor Jones from Mystery Incorporated, Dr. Possible from Kim Possible, and Principal Shepherd from Family Guy.

[@thatpatrickguy3446]

There aren't any characters to develop, just shallow caricatures. This show deserves the scores it is getting online.

[@magallanesagustin4952]

It deserves worse. The scores and reviews are waaaaaaay too generous.

[@thatpatrickguy3446]

@@magallanesagustin4952 Agreed, but unfortunately I can't enter "the square root of -1" as a grade, though it would be the perfect score for this mess.

[@mikshiinyanshi]

"THAT'S MY PURSE! I DONT KNOW YOU!" 💀

[@francreeps4509]

With how violent Daphne has been shown to be I wouldn't be surprised if the show pulls a bait and switch and says Daphne was the culprit all along and her entire motive is the most shallow thing ever like "Can't have competition for being the hottest girl in school if I'm the only girl in school"

[@desiree7633]

I'm saving this for later

[@luluzin5022]

Daphne was strangely calm about her close friends dying and Fred being the prime suspect. That plot twist would actually make sense, but I doubt this show is capable of good foreshadowing like that.

[@woffles6765]

Mindy: Write that down! Write that down!

[@lilplaguedoctor5557]

I think I've seen this somewhere... Yandere simulator anyone?

[@slicerneons3300]

Please don't keep going if it is really this bad. Your mental health is far more important. We love you too much to let you suffer under this evil

[@neraslight4997]

TRUE

[@TheReZisTLust]

My guess to being greenlit is sexualizing people who aren't adults cause It's weird how much that's been a popular theme in adult shows

[@madamkoifish]

Well it is hbo. Unfortunately.

[@bootyholebandit2905]

You’re so close to cracking the case

[@TheReZisTLust]

@@madamkoifish No but Netflix too, pretty sure I heard Cuties was still up. Never googling it cause fuck all that

[@neraslight4997]

@@TheReZisTLust Yeah it is, I’ve got Netflix and got curious, that’s a fucking yikes.

[@TheReZisTLust]

@@neraslight4997 yeesh, took one for the metaphorical team. May you rest in peace under the fbi watchlist eyes 🥺

[@shineyorkboy]

Wait, why are they assuming the murderer is male? Isn't Velma still their primary suspect? Especially now that the guy she blamed turned out to be innocent? Should the primary suspect be the one deciding which students get police protection?

[@neraslight4997]

Sexism spotted

[@NZobservatory]

The show attacks rich people who had everything handed to them and it's written by a rich person who had everything handed to her.

[@BrightWulph]

And she fails to see the irony.

[@NZobservatory]

@@BrightWulph I’d say she doesn’t see a lot.

[@nightwishfan1991]

This show: "combat centuries of toxic masculinity." Also this show: Daphne violently stabbing a woman in the leg with a pen. I swear this show either lacks self awareness (ironic given the terrible meta humor) or it is trying to be everything at once and not hitting any of its intended goals.

[@fatemakhan3843]

Mindy is the sole definition of "Privilege" itself. She grew up in a upper class, went to an ivy league college & never had to struggle in her life to get where she is. She made Velma herself insert but this version of Fred is actually her.

[@zeogold]

The only thing I get from this show is: 1. The people who write on this show need a visit from Chris Hanson. 2. They think all cops are useless. 3. They'll never see any man in a good light. 4. The way they talk about women who don't do things they want them to do, could give the way Incels talk about women a run for it's money.

[@ZombieSandwiches]

This show thinks it's groundbreaking by having Velma have an unnecessary conflict regarding her sexuality. It's 2023, and she can't grasp the concept of bisexuality? It feels so pointless and not believable at all. She even said she was attracted to men and women during the scene where she talked about naked pictures. Did they just forget they wrote her saying that? I wouldn't be surprised if this dumb subplot ends with her saying she likes boys and girls, and the show treating it like it's pushing norms and being progressive and pretending like they're the first show to have a bisexual. When in actually they're just being pretentious.

[@jturner2577]

I get not understanding your sexuality . But to not even grasp the concept of Bisexuality when it's known to occur in thousands of species?

[@thomashanson9173]

Kailing is definitely stuck in the 90s. She probably doesn't understand modern trends very well. Even the popular girls as far I can tell, don't seem to be wearing modern trendy clothes and are just generic popular girl clothes. I could be wrong about that last part.

[@EggFighterXB-]

@@jturner2577 Thousands? How come

[@luluzin5022]

The Owl House beat them to the bisexual main character. Velma is just patting itself on the back for doing nothing at all.

[@woffles6765]

@@EggFighterXB- Wdym?

[@Invidente7]

Oh my god! You actually are going to review the full series! Even the critical drinker gave up!

[@thefirstofthelastones8952]

And that foo watched The Ring of Power... I pity these two.

[@lapislovesgaming8739]

Not much to watch in terms of Cartoons lately

[@mckstellar1005]

The worst part is there are like specks of good things, like the occasional jump in good animation that they immediately butcher. It's almost as if they enjoy torturing the audience with potential that they massacre intentionally.

[@BrightWulph]

@mohamed zayan The fact he was willing to sit through the whole book, just hanging on to the vague hope that the X-Men will show up is just so hilarious you can't help but laugh.

[@mckstellar1005]

@mohamed zayan yeah the Hitler joke was decent as well but nothing that can come close to saving the show if anything it makes it worse because it feels like there is wasted potential on the writing staff or its like a broken clock... even it can get it right twice a day...

[@mckstellar1005]

@mohamed zayan that's the saying... say a 12 hrs clock is stuck on 2 o clock... it'll be right at 2:00 am and pm meaning it'll be correct 2 times a day

[@stun3282]

This is all just mindi stroking her ego and narcissism. Shes literally said she “sees herself in Velma.” This clearly shows that she is just vicariously living through Velma.

[@kentlindal5422]

A good writer would see their way out in the opening monolog, "This is MY story, from MY perspective. " make seasons 2 from everyone else's perspective and show her to be a delusional, melodramatic psychopath, who everyone hates.

[@jturner2577]

That wouldn't made the show even passable, but it would be a bit interesting.

[@lightspeed7312]

Never before have I hated someone for making trash. Now I have.

[@dramonmaster222]

Mindy Kalling must know some people in Hollywood because that's the ONLY reason I can see this show being Greenlit.

[@eightbitmonk]

The real mystery in this show is how it was ever green lit and discovering one redeeming quality before it ends.

[@kbraven7007]

I don’t think that anyone not even if Scooby Doo and Sherlock team up can ever solve that one

[@thebigidea9659]

I despise the fact that the entire mystery gang has the hots for one of the most obvious self inserts I've ever seen. It is really really gross.

[@KLWarlord]

It's almost like this show is full of terrible people written by terrible people 🤔 Bless you, J, for suffering through this. I lasted about eight minutes.

[@positivepenny5477]

I still quote "that's my purse" and "I don't know you" now years later cause that was funny, such a good show!

[@Steakknifejr_Jorpele]

Im so glad the rumors that "gigi" would be named "Scoobi" were false.

[@dylanmorgan5589]

The show would be immediately better if Velma was in prison solving the mystery from inside the cell with help from her friends. Any abrasive personality quirks could be forgiven and it would really demonstrate her genius. Plus proving your innocence is a powerful motivation to fight the internal conflict.

[@altairtodescatto]

Nothing can convince me that this show isn't a money laundry scheme

[@Damianweibler]

Well its certainly not entertainment

[@MrSpeedysam60]

I've seen people suggest it's for a tax write-off. The fact that this is a credible suggestion...

[@dragonvoladorx7041]

I think this is just Mindy's wish the way she wanted her younger years in high school and college to go

[@MyPalJimbo]

Your reviews for the first 4 episodes are literally my entire source of information about this show. Everyone is talking about it and I don't have HBO Max but thanks to your in depth analysis, I know what everyone is blabbering about. Thanks. I hope you'll finish out the season although I can't blame you if you've had enough of this shit.

[@TwilightWolf032]

Oh yeah, a MURDERER is ignoring all the laws and killing people right and left for who knows what reason, but Velma is more worried about sending the boys, the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, to a class about NOT MURDERING PEOPLE! Because "muh patriarchy" is much ore important than teaching girls how to defend themselves, isn't it?

[@MarsM13]

"Why'd they bother making a mystery show if they don't care about the mystery?" Because that's the joke. The show is really about relationships, politics, and meta-humor, and that the mystery is an afterthought is supposed to be funny. The mystery will presumably be solved at some point, and it will matter less than the Rosebud mystery in Citizen Kane.

[@----S.]

2:29 If they try to put crystal cove in this show they will literally be digging their own grave. Nobody messes with Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, Warner probably wouldn't like to see one of their oldest brands being trampled on in this way. The only thing keeping this show alive must be some contractual obligation that forces the show to have a minimum amount of episodes (like anime that by standard contract have at least 10-12 episodes per season).

[@CmdrBrannick]

Considering that this Velma is a self insert of the showrunner, it speaks volumes that everyone is into her.

[@stardust.7507]

I was wondering how they could make it any worse than it already was but I would rather not watch it myself because I fear I would end up gouging my eyes out and dying from cringe so thank you for taking one for the team

[@malik2978]

I'm so glad someone else brought up the fact the entire cast has feelings for the absolute dumpster fire that is Velma in this show . Like that's self insert 101 right there disgusting 🤢

[@commonsense5199]

Velma "had" a chance to be a better person but she decided to humiliate Fred in court that made him had a tantrum and he lied about killing those girls. 3:59 why Velma eating a sandwich during the investigation? Isn't Norville the one with the Eating Disorder? Even that blonde girl had a blade and wrap it around her fist. And Velma Said only just men are violent? And That blonde girl fights Velma in the tournament and didn't have the blade. Inconsistency! Oh yeah that blonde girl is also the one making fun Norville's Dad and mental health including as she said "there's no me in kill me"(This idiot). Then she turns 180 an saying mental health is not a joke. Why the change? Inconsistency? Or she's defending Daphne because making fun of mental illness is happening to her. You know, Blonde girl is 2nd suspect of the murders. I don't understand why there's a tournaments if Daphne's moms teaching the girls "go limp" aka Playing Possum, that doesn't defend anyone. But this works only for Velma to win her fights. Velma also said she keeping the picture that Fred texted her. Such Hypocrisy. 9:29 it is weird. It is important to have good hygiene in general. How Good Hygiene is patriarchal? Parents(including mothers) teach hygiene, teacher teach hygiene and even workplaces teach the important of Good hygiene. This is after pandemic were it important to washed your hands! When Norville confessed and said he's good at playing dumb but Daphne sarcastically say nooo. Daphne knew Norville is a simp even brought up Velma in the car scene. The show put Daphne Loves Dangers to put her in Velma's childhood flashback so Daphne and Velma can have this Forced Chemistry. Wow! Those two are so different and not like other kids they made for each other. Also the flashbacks add scene where Daphne Stole a teacher's wallet and she pull a knife on to The Blonde girl who pushed Velma and Daphne said Apologize. Sigh.... I know they're childhoods friend but Daphne and Velma didn't even interacted with each other in these flashbacks. And Daphne, Blonde girl and the Knife could be more evidences why Blonde Girl is the suspect for the murders as Blonde girl might be the one to frame Velma to go to jail and keep Daphne to away from her. I got a feeling in next two episodes Fred is going the one who simps now. I just want this pain to end.

[@bbletsplays1130]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow turns out Velma is the killer and has the stereotypical version of multiple personalities and that season 2 will have her go on the run from everyone else.

[@happynihilist2573]

Again we NEED to pay respect for J and her continued suffering and loss of braincells, it's torture few can bear... F

[@bbgunz1705]

0:06 Ooooh. New avatar expression. Love it. That's definitely my face whenever I hear anything about this show. The only good thing this show seems to bring is finally getting this channel closer to reaching 30k subscribers. Hope you reach it soon, M and J, and I'm sorry you had to suffer to get it.

[@maskedblanks7774]

There were rumours circling around that the girl who Norville bumped into (Gigi) will be nicknamed "Scoobi" or at the very least replaces Scooby. I hope that that is seriously not the case but at this point, I really wouldn't be surprised if they did that in this shitshow.

[@jturner2577]

It's not

[@destroyerofyorks]

It wasn't real, fortunately, but the fact that everyone believed it without a second thought really says a lot about the quality of the show.

[@maskedblanks7774]

@@destroyerofyorks Oh thank God it's not real. But yeah, wouldn't have been surprised if it was.

[@maskedblanks7774]

@@jturner2577 Thank God.

[@Raximus3000]

This thing is abyssmal. How can smth be this bad? The cherry on top is that they use some really detailed animation on the horror dreams. Why? Why did they do that?

[@SamtheBravesFan]

Probably because that's what they cared to make look good.

[@flarestorm9417]

Yeah, that's one of the saddest parts for me. The art style and animation isn't bad, it's the character designs and writing that bring it all down. A Scooby Doo show in this art style could work if it wasn't bogged down by the creator's self-insert, activist nonsense.

[@GummeeHater01]

I laughed more for one clip of king on the hill than I did for the entirety of velma so far. That's pretty telling in and of itself

[@ExtremeRy]

King Of The Hill is amazing

[@CaptainLunar1994]

There's a saying... Terrible people doing terrible things can be hilarious. Seinfeld for example showcases a cast of honestly terrible people, ranging between jerks, to narcissists, to at the very least someone with ZERO care about social norms to the point of being obnoxious... And yet it's considered a classic comedy show. Then you have shows like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia which the ENTIRE POINT OF is to show crappy people being crappy and how their lack of well... EVERYTHING that makes up being a decent person puts them into hilarious situations... The thing that makes them funny is there's the idea that yes, it's a terrible thing they're doing... BUUUUUUT their mindsets and how they think it's either a good call or even just HOW they go about it, can be outright GUT BUSTING... Here's where Velma falls apart... NONE OF THE SITUATIONS ARE FUNNY! And more to the point, there has to be SOMETHING at least SOMEWHAT likable about said terrible person for the comedy to work. They could be snarky, they could say things you WISH you could say, they could even just have an OVERALL affable personality but actually be quite terrible in general... The point being Velma doesn't get that you can't JUST have terrible people and call it a comedy... You have to have what they do IMPACT the show and it build to a crescendo of it all toppling down on them. THAT is where the comedy comes in!

[@Evelyn-pl3we]

yes! It’s like Shameless as well. Velma is just TERRIBLE in this series and annoying.

[@talithakoum3922]

Worth noting that _Seinfeld_ was never this vulgar or this toxic, and stayed away from politics.

[@budwyzer77]

The characters from Seinfeld and IASIP never got REWARDED for being horrible! They gained nothing and ended every episode worse off than they started. Velma is just a terrible show written by terrible people.

[@McChicken03]

This show feels like 2017 buzzfeed energy, just overly focused on social commentary while basically solidifying why society views social movements as bad, basically shooting them selves in the foot.

[@Aussieroth7]

I never thought I'd appreciate the Scrappy Doo episodes but here we are.

[@MyThirdUserAccount]

You know those dork-kids in school people would ridicule, and you'd think "I'll try being nice to them" only for them to open their mouths and you find out immediately that they're arrogant, self-centred, deluded, and hostile - and then you go "Ohhh, yeah, now I get why you aren't liked" ...This entire show feels staffed, written, and voiced by those EXACT type of people.

[@thetruestar6348]

This is literally just self insert for Mindy she clearly didn’t have any friends in high schools

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

If this is the way she acted in HS, no wonder no one liked her.

[@KrisKrossed95]

The fact that this could have been a college drama without changing the majority of the show makes this especially sus, why do they need to be 15-17??

[@dodojesus4529]

But then they wouldnt be 15-17.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

@@dodojesus4529 And that's a problem?

[@dodojesus4529]

@@mitchfletcher2386 for them it apparently is

[@greenghoul157]

How can a show be both woke and racist and sexist at the same time this is literally hell

[@mattm8870]

Pretty sure that because it's really racist sexist wolf wearing woke sheep clothing.

[@Samaru163]

I always hate it when the argument of, "Why aren't men taught not to kill women," is brought up. It's like whoever makes that claim automatically assumes that the male sex are, at default, murderers and have to be taught against their nature. When in reality, the reason why it's not done is because people, men and women, are taught by their parents, peers, and society, to be good and respectable to their fellows. The ones who kill are exceptions and never got the lesson in the first place. Even if a hypothetical class about not killing was held, would it change the mind of a serial killer? Or would it just be a waste of time and frustrate all the people who aren't ever going to kill someone outside of maybe self-defence because it feels like they're being punished for an extreme reaction? It's better for everyone if the people being targetted by killers know how to react when they meet those few outliers rather than punishing half the population of Earth for something they won't ever do. You're very brave for handling this.

[@VileGlory]

Pretty much. If a person legitimately wanted to harm someone, no class is going to convince them.

[@talithakoum3922]

Exactly. Unfortunately, evil people will commit evil acts no matter how many classes you make them sit through.

[@francesmiklovic5624]

nah you're wrong for this one. you're just using the ben shapiro argument. gross.

[@talithakoum3922]

@@francesmiklovic5624 This will come as a shock to you, but evil people who yearn to commit acts of evil will not be stopped by laws, let alone classes and lectures. Laws - government - cannot purge evil from the human heart. So men, women, boys and girls should all know self-defense. If that's Ben Shapiro's argument, then he's correct. The only thing "gross" in this situation is people like you, begging for something that doesn't work and disparaging something that does.

[@francesmiklovic5624]

@@talithakoum3922 evil people aren't just born genius. They are raised that way. Saying that evil people are just "born" that way takes the blame off society and off of YOU.

[@Contherage]

I have these two sides that are at war with each other. One side hates that shows like this are a thing. And the other side that loves that these shows are a thing because now I get to listen to everyone deconstruct the show and say "this is why this is bad". And at the same time I do hold those that watch the show just to deconstruct it in high regard, because I bailed in the first 3 minutes of episode 1.

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

It’s like Mindy Kaling can sense our collective suffering and just pumps these out like it fuels her.

[@dakota7745]

Wow, so the creator mary sue'ed herself into velma, NOW everyone is in love with velma, refuses to see her flaws and despite her venomous personality, shes practicality perfect and never has any consequences for her actions. Projecting much?

[@aspirec1376]

What I really don't understand is how over-the-top the violence is. Blood and gore is expected, its an adult show. However, often characters will be spurting fatal ammounts of blood everywhere, then shown to be fine a few scenes later. It has happened in literally every episode so far

[@twinzzlers]

Mindy thinks glasses are ugly? Seriously? I look like an orangutan without my glasses.

[@thetruestar6348]

Remember hygiene and working out is morally wrong apparently. You need to be a slob and fat so you get body positivity points

[@SamtheBravesFan]

Which would just end up being Twitter likes. I mean, forget working out, you just have to have a not-unheathly diet and your weight stabilizes and you don't get obese.

[@LexVanguard2004]

Lmao no way did Mindy write every character lusting after her irredeemable self-insert 💀

[@JohnPaul_kun]

the most tragic thing about this show is the money that was put on this garbage it could have been use for an existing good show or movie or prequel

[@jturner2577]

Yep we could have gotten that Billy and Mandy movie instead of this Abomination.

[@LattePunch]

A dark adult take on the series could work if virtually anyone who isn't mindy is in charge of the next reboot.

[@MrRobot1984]

Legit question, how the hell are shows like The Prince, Santa Inc, and Teenage Euthanasia still on HBOmax? But shows like Final Space and Infinity Train had to be removed to tax purposes?

[@theagentsquidfiles504]

Honestly, some of these premises have the potential to be really funny. The idea of an incel-type reading a book on feminist theory and coming away with "All women are beautiful" in a perverse way could be really funny if it was done with self-awareness, tact, not sexualizing minors and without butchering a beloved character with over 50 years of history in popular culture.

[@EquesTron]

1:18 I don't think I've seen that face from you before. It's hilarious. 🤣

[@unigenius]

I'll never understand how a mini-series like this has to have filler and padding episodes!

[@kuridragon9099]

Mindy Kaling was annoying af in the office, and quite unfunny, turns out she wasn't acting

[@ABHyt]

I simply don't think the writers know how to write likeable characters or character development. Like if we take Fred, he starts as a racist who refuses to talk to unattractive women. But after having a conversation with Velma about both their insecurities, he goes on to remember her name and later defends her against the school bullies. Logically, the show would treat that as a furtherment of his character, but the next scenes are making fun of the fact that he's a manbaby, body shaming him, and turning him into Hitler. Sooo, was what he did not a good development, cuz the show seems to treat it like it's not. The show then does this with Fred several more times with him, like when he learns to appreciate "inner beauty" but then Velma just rejects him for being a bad person. There's no logical through line to anything that happens.

[@KevinKess]

@Alberto Beto Hernandez Your idea for making a likable character could actually work. But, I imagine if someone went with that idea, the writers of this show would find a way to this version of Fred Jones into an even more pathetic manchild.

[@buck342443]

One thing I've learned about Mindy Kaling through this show is that I don't want to leave her alone with children out of fear of what she might do to them, It wouldn't surprise we learn years from now that this woman is a female version of Bill Cosby.

[@bradonhoover3002]

I think Mindy didn't realize that everyone was laughing *at* her character in the Office and not with her

[@mark9960]

Yea, this is a self insert. reminds me of my childhood edgy fanfiction where folks pointless die. all the characters are in with me.

[@jpiccone1]

I'm starting to think The Office was good by accident. This show is not just bad, it's vile. But you have to give her credit, this is the first time America has been united about a TV show since Mr. Rogers died.

[@EmoBunny69]

I mean you have to keep in mind mindy wasn’t the only writer on the show, not to mention she didn’t create the show. She later was able to become a write; just like John K. So it’s honestly just Mindy sucking at writing, based on her other shows, they aren’t…good.

[@steampunckairship]

Dear MJ, I just want you to know that you and fellow reviewers like you bravely sitting through this horror, are like Richard Engel to me. You are on the ground sacrificing your sanity so that we can learn the truth about this horrible situation. Godspeed!

[@basil6060]

so the whole gang is attracted to a Mindy Kailing self insert 🤔 how self obsessed and out of touch can a person be 😂

[@kacperparzecki7164]

Maybe this truly is a cartoon made to show how laughable is woke content? Like Velma is pushed to be absolutely unlikeable, its hard to imagine that the creator don't see it yet can make jokes about how Velma is hated

[@dodojesus4529]

That is a legit theory

[@KelShu]

I hate how unlikable they made Velma in this show; she's rude to everyone, racist, sexist, a selfish & inconsiderate friend, an unapologetic body-shamer, literally eats out of the garbage, and is just downright unpleasant. I don't understand why Mindy Kaling would think anyone would like a character written this way.

[@noahwiley2846]

Why are they making a version of Scooby Doo a show centered on mysteries not focused on mysteries?

[@rioulethebeats9717]

Lets not forget that this is a origin story so the velma and Daphne ship wont work. Unless they say this is a poly relationship

[@lygonthereddragon]

what is it with these shows giving the main character a toxic relationship or a toxic relationship being glorified?

[@azjugallo]

I love how it's implied a "Don't teach guys to murder" course would be more effective on the ONE killer than the "self defense" course would be for ALL the potential victims....

[@nixuniverse5240]

5:45 This joke actually would’ve been funny if she said “We only have $50 in the budget”

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

*Ahem* *THESE ARE GOD DAMN HIGHSCHOOL KIDS!!!* Fred is 15! and while no, it is not CP* it's still very very weird.

[@iswearimthisclose9795]

Ya know I’m just waiting for the cancellation

[@eic6916]

At this point I feel bad for the animator with so many dislikes for this show

[@peppyrobo7049]

Considering Velma is pretty much a self insert of her voice actress her being at the centre of this romance between like 4 people is so fucking weird

[@Chrisfragger1]

I couldn't stop laughing at the fact that they turned Scooby Doo into a black woman for Not Shaggy to rebound on after being rejected by Mindy for not being white.

[@williamharmon4039]

I think I heard that might actually just be a rumor and the character is named Gigi.

[@jturner2577]

That was just a rumor but I could have easily seen them do that.

[@Chrisfragger1]

@@williamharmon4039 I thought I seen it in clips? Maybe they were edited as a parody....

[@dodojesus4529]

Hes gonna fuck the (not) dog