It's ACTUALLY HARD... (Genshin FIXED Imaginarium Theatre!)

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Jello Impact

Jello Impact

Күн бұрын

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@THESocialJusticeWarrior
@THESocialJusticeWarrior 2 ай бұрын
Jello: The buffs aren't good enough! Also Jello: They made them better! Also Jello: I wont use them! 😆😆😆😆😆
@chawa5594
@chawa5594 2 ай бұрын
the existence of hydro on this one made it feel really easy because neuvillette and furina carried four floors for free, and an arlecchino i borrowed carried two more for me lmao
@pondreezy
@pondreezy 2 ай бұрын
I guess inazuma really does shine eternal
@egemag
@egemag 2 ай бұрын
C6 furina ?
@sahil00001
@sahil00001 2 ай бұрын
And 2 floor by trial maulani
@MJAY552
@MJAY552 2 ай бұрын
Haha opposite here. I borrowed my friend's Neuvilette, really helped ton
@stoesniper
@stoesniper 2 ай бұрын
@@egemag my c0 pipe furina carried two floors for me as well, and last two from borrowed neuvilette, two my tighnari, mualani, and arlechinno
@Ponidesu
@Ponidesu 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: protect the monolith is a freebie here if you're just trying to save your best for later. I threw my worst filler characters at it and only bothered to keep the ruin guard focused on me by hitting it enough times, combined with a few bow stuns. Kept it off the monolith for most of those 3 minutes and got the star. 🙃 It actually taught me a bit about how aggro works in this game since that never comes into play.
@ferend4038
@ferend4038 2 ай бұрын
Only if you choose the right challenge. I chose ruin crabs and etc, it was basically impossible to get the star
@Toqrainbow
@Toqrainbow 2 ай бұрын
i picked the lawachurl one when i cleared on my accounts and felt like as fool when i watched other people’s clears 😂
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov Ай бұрын
​​I chose the same last time, and got the star on my second try. Crabs deal almost 0 damage to the monolith, so you really need to taunt only one enemy there. Just use light attacks so it does not die fast
@ferend4038
@ferend4038 Ай бұрын
@@Romashka_Sov will take that in to account next time
@xShikari
@xShikari 2 ай бұрын
They could allow to play less than 4 characters in a round. That restriction cleared would be welcome.
@shadowwalker4633
@shadowwalker4633 2 ай бұрын
That would take away the random teams - you would just use 5 strong dps to run all through it without teams - with that on you could lose 4 dps in 2 rounds which makes it more team based
@muhdamirul2225
@muhdamirul2225 2 ай бұрын
Why everyone want to use 1 character. We already have that in Abyss. Then what is the originality of IT if player still can one shot using 1 character? Does it feel rewarding or just want to speed run for primos?
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 2 ай бұрын
@@muhdamirul2225 Why is easy. People want to save characters for later, not be forced to use them up and not have them available later. It won't happen, though. The vigor thing to have an impact needs vigor to be an issue, and that means 4 character teams.
@banjoowo4001
@banjoowo4001 2 ай бұрын
no that would make every buff, strategy meaningless
@NekoM3
@NekoM3 2 ай бұрын
It's just an abyss with restriction to make you pull more characters. "The mode is annoying" is the conclusion of most players except for content creators and understandably so. The mode should have just been Simulated Universe mode from the sister game HSR.
@TheRoleplayer40k
@TheRoleplayer40k 2 ай бұрын
Su is even worse when it became DU with over inflated stats and random on random
@NekoM3
@NekoM3 2 ай бұрын
@@TheRoleplayer40k If it's that bad. I suppose I'm wrong then. I played the game for a few months starting from Argenti patch to the new penacony patch. I had fun playing SU.
@joachimsienkiewicz341
@joachimsienkiewicz341 Ай бұрын
@@NekoM3 It's not even half that bad, hell, it's not even comparable. DU was introduced as mode updating every other patch. First instance just lacked some needed interplays, blessings etc to make more playstalyes enjoyable. It's already better now after first update and shows lot of promise in the future + we are getting another separate big SU expansion in the next patch (2.6 - SU expansion, 2.7 - another DU update). It's still miles above IT in every way (+ Du levels up your chars if you need it). Also, IT is a monthly endgame, that's why its fomo gallore format sucks in current state, SU/DU are permanent game modes with optional endgame activities.
@HoshiHero
@HoshiHero 2 ай бұрын
Hard to focus on the gameplay and keep track of the strategy when there's constant generic youtube edits distracting from it. As a past generic youtube editor myself, I appreciate the effort and understand the pitfalls, but I wish I'd listened when someone commented that less is often more with these types of vids.
@IndisputableConnoisseur
@IndisputableConnoisseur 2 ай бұрын
@@HoshiHero agreed
@WiffleWaffIe
@WiffleWaffIe 2 ай бұрын
Love the addition touches from the editing!
@maxtotheham
@maxtotheham 2 ай бұрын
I wish Hoyo would just give us a calendar of the next 3 or 4 theaters so I know if I have to build more characters
@Predapz
@Predapz 2 ай бұрын
If the leaks I saw were true, the next season is pyro, electro, and geo with Kinich, Yelan, Venti, and Sucrose being the special invitation characters you can also bring along. (If this is wrong, I'm sorry)
@ardaozoner
@ardaozoner 2 ай бұрын
So far from what we see there are 3 categories in each theater, main element, secondary element and like a support element, in my opinion the main elemnts are pyro and hydro since we have the most characters from these element and i think we will always have at least one of these two elemnts, secon elemnts can be pyro, hydro, cryo and electro, and the support or 3rd elements are geo, anemo and dendro since we have the least amont of cahacters in these elements dont reallt have reactions and they are mostly supports, and dps characters usually wants the same elemantal support which could be hard to do in IT
@Re_V
@Re_V 2 ай бұрын
​@@Predapzthat's not a leak. That is literally written in the update notes.
@Predapz
@Predapz 2 ай бұрын
@@Re_V ah, my bad then
@midnight.blue42
@midnight.blue42 2 ай бұрын
​@@PredapzI've heard it's pyro electro and DENDRO
@BotanVal
@BotanVal 2 ай бұрын
I do agree that this imaginarium theater cycle is a lot better, but there's still a lot of improvements they need to make. My biggest issue is that there's still way too much rng involved with who the trial characters and special guest stars are. Like it is completely rng dependent on whether the trial characters happen to overlap with the units that you've already built, or whether the special cast member is one of your strong units, which completely determines accessibility to the cycle before you even begin. This is especially problematic because some of the buffs are based on the special cast units, which means if you don't have those units, you literally can't use these buffs at all. Like for instance, one of the strongest buffs this cycle was the hyperbloom buff, but you literally cannot use it without having Clorinde or Raiden, which are 2 limited 5 star units. I thought of two solutions that would greatly reduce the rng component of your team roster and improve accessibility, while still giving meaningful restrictions that you have to play around: 1.) Expand the pool of trial characters, and make it so you pick 6 of them to use. This would eliminate bad rng with overlap if the trial units happen to be the units that you already had built. For instance, if they had a pool of 10 trial characters you could choose from and you had 4 overlapping characters, you could pick the 6 units you don't have. 2.) Rather than having 4 randomized special cast members, make it so only 2 of them are random. For the remaining 2 slots, make it so you can choose one off-element 5 star unit of your choice, and one off-element 4 star unit of your choice. This would give players a lot more control that wasn't rng dependent, but still have to play around the parameters of the elemental restrictions and buffs that season. To use the current cycle as an example, someone who doesn't have clorinde or raiden could use their 4 star slot on fischl or kuki, and still be able to use hyperbloom (and actually be able to make use of the hyperbloom buff this cycle). I hope genshin continues to improve on this mode because I actually really like the concept. Genshin really needed a mode that incentivizes horizontal investment, its just that the current iteration still needs a lot of work.
@weshuiz1325
@weshuiz1325 2 ай бұрын
Glad you activated raiden's C2 you can have some funn your self as well
@grant6864
@grant6864 2 ай бұрын
the editor LOCKED ON with this video... it's fun, but if it takes longer then there's no need for all that
@bdanBdode
@bdanBdode 2 ай бұрын
It was lowkey wack but it was tuff
@Drxcture
@Drxcture 2 ай бұрын
I also think they should make the character requirements less, 22 characters are A LOT and that comes from a player who has cleared all Theaters up until now.
@crayyx
@crayyx 2 ай бұрын
I think it's fine as it is. it makes you build characters instead of using the same 8 characters the whole time and also it is an end game mode so the people who don't have characters are most likely not ready to beat the whole theater anyways so they should just continue grinding
@alexander2019.
@alexander2019. 2 ай бұрын
No, it’s end game content. Keep it as is.
@notqrow3654
@notqrow3654 2 ай бұрын
I had to force myself to use Amber as a pyro applicator and while it was a pain, I did find it kind of fun.
@ssarellas
@ssarellas 2 ай бұрын
@@crayyx It's because people like you they keep adding shit like this into the game worst people on the internet
@Drxcture
@Drxcture 2 ай бұрын
@@crayyx Every theater has different elements so it will make you build different units anyways, let alone there are restrictions such as bad character combinations you have to go with.
@Amjed_G2
@Amjed_G2 2 ай бұрын
I beat as an fp2 with mostly lvl 70 characters only having lyney and arrlichino as a dps It was so hard but managed to beat it 10 stars
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov Ай бұрын
For the second floor, these enemies have a dendro aura when shielded (which is essentially always, because you can't break the shield. So you could use third hydro there and be perfectly fine. Bam, potential Emilie use saved
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov Ай бұрын
For Act 4, you could just put the worst characters you have and aggro this bot. This robot is alone, and as long as it attacks you, it does not attack the Monolith, making this floor extremely easy, and only a bit tedious. Remember guys, always pick the room with robots there, 1 or 2 enemies are easy to aggro and hold away from the monolith
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov Ай бұрын
Double the trial characters is more than enough imo. You can clear 8 out of 10 acts with only trial and friend characters, and everyone else can be just lvl70 with +0 artifacts and lvl1 weapons. Adding just 6 more trial characters will make "0 own builded characters" runs even easier than current act 8
@adriepram
@adriepram 2 ай бұрын
I dread the day Geo will be the featured element since I only have Noelle and Ningguang as DPS. I never farmed for Geo traveller either. I call it, it will be when Xilonen is released. Sure she will be playable as trial character, but we still dont know her kit yet..
@FineUser
@FineUser 2 ай бұрын
Geo theater is coming in 10 days. get ready
@cardnacn6704
@cardnacn6704 2 ай бұрын
I still want them to make Endless mode for theater. No elemental requirement, Just using your full roster seeing how many stages you can go. (Maybe 1 or 2 from assist friends) The reward doesn't have to be primogems (Or primogem only up to certain stages). it can be Mora, character exp, artifact exp or weapon exp.
@phoenixlau
@phoenixlau 2 ай бұрын
11:48 - this is the chamber that tanked my full star run. I think the time target for this was not properly playtested, that's why it feels so hard relative to the other chambers. Lesson: don't get cute, just pick the scrub lineup rather than the weird element check.
@michael199820
@michael199820 2 ай бұрын
It was very poorly balanced for sure, I couldnt even clear it in time for the star with xingqiu+furina+barbara+HMC. This chamber was playtested only with neuvillete or yelan mono hydro and its nearly impossible with any other teams. It actually forced me to use my c6 yelan to get the star on it. Meanwhile there was this tower defense stage in act 4 with 1 ruin guard that you could clear with a single level 70 character by just kiting it around lmao. edit: I was able to beat it with xingqiu kokomi furina kazuha, but you absolutely need one of the stronger double/mono hydro teams.
@Toqrainbow
@Toqrainbow 2 ай бұрын
The difficulty spike is insane compared to the other non abyss mage alternatives. Funny thing is, I cleared with neuvillette on my first playthrough and specifically structured my run to use him and furina on that stage and it gave me hydro abyss mages 😭 thank god for rewinds, i got the kairagi after that and it was ez
@Brokeearther
@Brokeearther 2 ай бұрын
Act 8 needs in the circle out the circle strategy.
@CaGiBa00
@CaGiBa00 2 ай бұрын
I really love how they improved the theater. I'm trying to build every single character I have so this gamemode made it so that I get more motivated to do it
@passwordyeah729
@passwordyeah729 2 ай бұрын
Same! I'm constantly at 100 Mora 😭😭😭
@princemannic
@princemannic 2 ай бұрын
i can't wait to see how IT challenge runs evolve in a year we're gonna get something like 4* only + minumum characters + no buffs + no main dps units + no free cache
@IAmVentoAC
@IAmVentoAC 2 ай бұрын
cant wait for the raiden c2 video
@emiliovaz542
@emiliovaz542 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid Jello! Love your content as always, sure imma love this vid too
@angellynnannerasticajunsay1311
@angellynnannerasticajunsay1311 2 ай бұрын
*TIPS FOR THIS THEATER SEASON!* 1. Spend only on bloom buffs. Other buffs will only be redundant and a waste of fantasia flowers (ff). 2. Exhaust your pyro characters on the first 4 rounds. (you wont need them further because vape and burning are not buffed) 3. Trial characters are good enough to clear. build the other characters to lvl 70 (I leveled up collei, amber, xinyan and others) to achieve the +4 companion ff headstart. 4. Restart the first round of rerolling chars until you get bennet and 1 other flex/filler character. 5. Pick the enemies with no elemental shields (Ruin guards, drakes, graders, pneumaousia meks, *hydro enemies*) 6. build your dendro chars will full er as they only need application and not damage (for the buffs) 7. Listing your most powerful dendro, pyro and hydro chars before starting will be very useful as you will only focus on picking them and not tire yourself from building all of the characters 8. Here is the lineup you should go for: round 1: emilie, bennet, dehya, flex round 2: emilie, bennet, dehya, flex round 3: mualani, candace, xiangling, yaoyao (ez boss for mualani) round 4: mualani, candace, xiangling, yaoyao round 5: kazuha+pyro dps/ hydro, dendro, bloom team round 6: kazuha+pyro dps/ hydro, dendro, bloom team (ez kazuha+pyro carry/ bloom aoe) round 7: hydro, dendro, dendro, hyperbloom raiden round 8: hydro, dendro, dendro, hyperbloom raiden (need strong dendro, nahida should be here) round 9: OP FRIEND SUPPORT CAST, dendro, flex, flex round 10: OP FRIEND SUPPORT CAST, dendro, *HYDRO*, flex (nahida should be here, ez shield breaking) 9. As you can see, you will only need 3 other dendro characters aside from yaoyao and emilie. this could be nahida, dmc, kirara, kaveh, collei 10. You will only need 3-4 hydro characters aside from mualani and candace. this could be furina, xingqiu, yelan, neuvillette, kokomi 11. The flex slot can literally be any character that you can throw. you can clear the round even you do not swap with them. 12. With this technique, you will only need to build at least 10 characters to breeze through this seasons IT. Good luck!
@Rh-ij3th
@Rh-ij3th 2 ай бұрын
thank you kind stranger. I was just about to look up IT guides
@jurasikd
@jurasikd 2 ай бұрын
yep, bloom is insanely strong this time
@jaystrike3270
@jaystrike3270 2 ай бұрын
Act 8 and 9,(pryo abyss mages specifically) were the worst.
@TinAugustinUjebicKutina
@TinAugustinUjebicKutina 2 ай бұрын
Never ever picking those pyro abyss mage bounties again 💀
@dreaming-sv5zu
@dreaming-sv5zu 2 ай бұрын
I can complete Imaginarium Theatre but I can’t comeplete the abyss. I have massive skill issue.
@TheBigDrew947
@TheBigDrew947 2 ай бұрын
Congrats on activating your raiden cons, I can't imagine sitting on 5 star constellations so long like that
@exploreevery
@exploreevery 2 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see Geo anemo dendro theatre 😂
@ithirealgenshin
@ithirealgenshin 2 ай бұрын
If I were to share my experience doing Theatre, its definitely more challenging than Hard Mode, but it can be easy if you employ the right tactics. Like I saved Nahida & Nilou for the Vishap Local Legend so I could shred its Hydro shield in an instant. I also used characters that are not burst-reliant since it has that one move that sucks energy. For the Baptist, I also saved Nahida + 1x Hydro unit since Dendro can break both Hydro & Electro shield quite effectively compared to other elements. Idk if its just me but from my experience, the earlier chambers were made for Mualani since there are certain battles that would literally spawn 2 enemies. Then, there are also certain chambers that have multi-wave which worked well for Neuvillette since I decided to save him for whatever reason. Granted my account is very invested (both vertical & horizontal), I still had a good time clearing Theatre while only selecting Companion Invites. TLDR; Using strategies make clears easier.
@jpzappala2874
@jpzappala2874 2 ай бұрын
This video was great. Pls bring more of this
@anjanmondal8363
@anjanmondal8363 2 ай бұрын
It's not hard. You have have to choose the easy option like in the monolith that was the easy one where ruin guard come one by one you can do it solo with a good dps. Also in act 9 there are two difficult challenge where you have to kill 8 hydro or 8 pyro mages but there are lot other enemies so your character will hit different enemies so there a easy option which you later picked. Also in act 8 it's better to use dendro mc and collei rather than baizhu and nahida because they apply lot of dendro in short period. I use collei burst and skill then dendro mc it's immediately break the shield. I used arlecchino, xinqiu, collei and dendro mc in that chamber. Also it's better to use hu tao earlier than arlecchino because hu tau is clunky to use so in hard act save arlecchino rather. 😊
@anjanmondal8363
@anjanmondal8363 2 ай бұрын
Also in this season we had three most strongest element that's why it might seem easy to lot of people. Imagine if they put dendro geo cryo 😂 that will be a hard one because you have to rely on raw damage. Next season we are having pyro electro geo so it might be hard . Also I don't have lot of geo characters build so that will be problem for lot of people😂
@littlemonster7357
@littlemonster7357 2 ай бұрын
YES!! Im very interested in hearing your opinion on the c0-c2 difference for raiden
@ubeia4857
@ubeia4857 2 ай бұрын
I cleared 10 stars this IT but only after 2 rewinds. I also had to save my Emillie against the god damned local legend vishap to deal with that thing faster. As for the final baptist, he was a nothing burger. Honestly easier than I expected. The difficult ones to deal with was the time attack bounties (one was the 6 pyro abyss mages that I had to rewind cause I didn't have enough hydro to break their shields faster) and the local legend vishap. I expected to not even get 10 stars but I somehow managed to get it anyway. And I also expected it to be significantly harder given that my last IT was only gold with 4 stars. If I already struggled with Hard, I shuddered to think on how I would do Visionary.
@SaiyukiGS
@SaiyukiGS 2 ай бұрын
I'm dying with watching the trying to get rid of hydro vishap shield while standing in the circle of suck and then just not using nahida in the last boss for killing 2/3 of his shields 😂
@terrygojan
@terrygojan 2 ай бұрын
First time in a while having fun in the game with this mode lol
@skirnchskirnch
@skirnchskirnch 2 ай бұрын
imaginarium theatre requires you to strategize on what characters who should use and what teams you should make while having elemental restrictions. It's not hard to the point where you would rage quit and stop playing, but it isn't easy either. I play on medium mode (since I don't have enough characters for hard and visionary) and I enjoy this mode since u gotta use ur brain I fully agree with jello's perspective here
@MrPinkpanzer
@MrPinkpanzer 2 ай бұрын
I think I activated one buff, and I don't think I needed it. Where's your Nuevilette? Nuev carried me for the bounty floor. It was trivial with nuev. I also just ran clorinde Aggravate for the vishap, slotted in tighnari for shield break, and it worked really well. It does seem crazy to have 22 characters built. Especially when we go to geo and cryo. I found it really easy, but I'm also not complaining that it's easy. Thanks for the vid, Jello.
@asjgamz
@asjgamz 2 ай бұрын
For act 8 I used Tighnari and shooted from afar, with his burst and 3 CA, the shield goes away almost instantly, then bruteforced with Arle on that lizard, took some time learning its attack patterns tho but happy I got it on time and 10 stars this theatre too on my second retry...
@kylesmith987
@kylesmith987 2 ай бұрын
The other way they could potentially lower the total amount of characters needed is by increasing the amount of uses each character had like allow 3 uses instead of 2 uses per character. They could also lower the amount of required characters per floor but this one probably goes against the identity of the mode a bit as you are supposed to scrounge together weird comps to over come the challenges.
@thuaners
@thuaners 2 ай бұрын
first off, you activated your Raiden C2? im so happy for u! 🥰💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@himanshu4826
@himanshu4826 2 ай бұрын
0:57 finallyyyy🎉🎉
@ismailkhizirov2730
@ismailkhizirov2730 2 ай бұрын
Love the edits
@punk979
@punk979 2 ай бұрын
C2 RAIDEN REVIEW WHEN
@ishraqreza6457
@ishraqreza6457 2 ай бұрын
Gotta build more characters 😢 for this,but I'll listen to your advice,sir Love your vids💜
@ChirpyMisha
@ChirpyMisha 2 ай бұрын
I wish there was a reason to replay the theater. Like, maybe reward some mora every time you complete a level, with each level giving a bit more so you have to go through the whole thing to get the most rewards instead of just farming the first level over and over again. A few days ago I started a new account because I had nothing to do. True resinless behavior. But it would be nice if we could actually farm some resources without being time gated. That's what I would like the theater to become
@shyyy.196
@shyyy.196 2 ай бұрын
What?! U activated c2 raiden?! Oh nooooooo 😂😂 Oh well, op
@geogodzhongli
@geogodzhongli 2 ай бұрын
this was still very easy for me lmao, as long as neuvi and arlecchino are allowed to be here I will always clear the stages in as much time as it takes me to finish using the toilet
@BloodSlinga
@BloodSlinga 2 ай бұрын
This feels less like a Jello video and more like a Zy0x video
@passwordyeah729
@passwordyeah729 2 ай бұрын
No? The gags are few and far in between
@WildspeakerYT
@WildspeakerYT 2 ай бұрын
no moanings no socks
@AndrewJasonQuan
@AndrewJasonQuan 2 ай бұрын
In Act 9, I did Nilou Bloom against the Hydro Abyss Mages and Hydro Slimes. Everything exploded.
@paradoxlucas
@paradoxlucas Ай бұрын
I was so happy that i beat act 8 then realized theres 2 new ones 😭
@soyeonxxn
@soyeonxxn 2 ай бұрын
🗣️THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING 🗣️ i died
@hachiman205
@hachiman205 2 ай бұрын
They didn't really fix the main issue of wanting almost 20 units and not only just 20 units but 20 units of 3 specific elements which changes every patch. I've been playing this game for 1 and a half year and I did beat the visionary mode with barely 7-9 characters that were properly built, rest was literally lvl 70 units without any weapons or artifacts, just there for nothing. It still has same problem which is you either have units and it's super easy or you don't have them and it's impossible.
@shinobu1886
@shinobu1886 2 ай бұрын
That is an “issue” for you to fix, not them.
@AntonioFelipePitta
@AntonioFelipePitta 2 ай бұрын
@@shinobu1886 no, it isn't. The relic system is already bad enough even if you spend almost your entire weekly resin on it, so having to level and build so many characters like this is really against the whole game design of genshin until now, evne if you consider the new targetted relic system. Even after clearing all versions of this mode, most of the fights were boring because i always felt like i wasn't using the full potential of my units
@shinobu1886
@shinobu1886 2 ай бұрын
@@AntonioFelipePitta That is one of the most out of touch takes I’ve seen. My guy really said building a variety of characters is going against the game design of Genshin, lol. Yes, if you don’t have enough characters built, this is indeed your issue. The whole point of the mode is rewarding players for horizontal investment who have build a variety of characters and actually gives value of having multiple DPS’s of the same element, something the Abyss never did.
@AntonioFelipePitta
@AntonioFelipePitta 2 ай бұрын
@@shinobu1886 Yes, building too many characters when the rest of the game system (most specifically relic and resin but also the amount of primogem and lack of update of the 4* on the shop since 1.0) don't match this type of game mode. They're two confliting directions for the game. On one hand they want you to level and build everyone you can to play on the theater, but o the other hand, the relic rates are designed for the average time to build a character optimally to be long so the players have a long term goal since the only endgame mode they had was the abyss. Also, a LOT of players do not pull for most 4* frequently because getting a 5*,his signature weapon and getting all the important constelations for the 5* or his 4* members of his comp can take a LOT of time and primogem, so the game incentivize people to SAVE UNTIL SOMETHING YOU WANT IS AVAILABLE, which is another reason why the way they want people to use their resources for theater is a confliting game design which how they designed the game to work until now. They need to make a massive overhaul of resources to make the theater worth or fun. The new relic system is a good thing but it isn't enough
@shinobu1886
@shinobu1886 2 ай бұрын
@@AntonioFelipePitta I’ve only been playing for about year and a half, since the end of Sumeru. I’m able to pretty easily 36 star abyss and more easily clear IT 10/10. Older plays should have no problem achieving this if they spend their recourses wisely, and it’s not unreasonable to think that much newer players shouldn’t be expected to clear all end game content already anyway. The longer this mode exists and the older it gets, the more prepared people should be, so there really is no excuse.
@wall6587
@wall6587 2 ай бұрын
I've been playing non stop ever since 1.3. Yet I don't have enough characters to do it 😂
@passwordyeah729
@passwordyeah729 2 ай бұрын
Jello did you get a new editor? Appreciate the gags 😆
@WebofHope
@WebofHope 2 ай бұрын
Idk about double/triple trial characters but 2-3 extras for Visionary mode would be good
@Julia_Chan
@Julia_Chan 2 ай бұрын
I feel like it is fine as is and i find the amount of characters more or less fair for this type of endgame mode, i mean it a little like when you start with the abyss you needed only 4 characters build until you got to the floors when you suddenly needed 4 more build to even clear it and the theater does have modes that requires less build characters so over time anyone can to the full theater, cause genshin wasn't meant to be a race but a marathon and to be fair the characters only have to be half decently build in order to clear the game mode The only thing i don't mind if they change it, is the amount of invite characters can be set up for other players so they have more choices
@shemarsmith9262
@shemarsmith9262 2 ай бұрын
It still doesn't change much, it just feels like abyss. It needs more flashy gimmicks, like HSR Simulated universe
@Wortigon2000
@Wortigon2000 2 ай бұрын
To get full stars, I kind of had to borrow a very damn OP C6R5 Arlecchino with some cracked artifacts from a guy from a discord group, who joined me for the coop achievements, was nice, and I added as friend. That Arlecchino ate the 3rd and 4th bosses in seconds. But the only hard part really, was that I needed someone to one cycle the last boss, and I kind used up all my best DPS-es too soon the first time I tried. 2nd time was full marks.
@highwaytoheaven99
@highwaytoheaven99 2 ай бұрын
Imaginarium Theater is still not a good endgame mode for me. For it to be good, Hoyo could do 3 things: 1- Keep the character usage limitations, I don't mind that, but make it so ALL characters are available from the beginning. Leave the flowers currency only for getting buff cards. This way we can diminish the "random bullshit go!" kind of gameplay. Its so annoying! 2- They got the buffs right with this new version of the Theater, which is great. Now add more variety for the buffs, make them stronger, add some defensive buffs too (like one that buffs shields greately, or even GIVES shields). 3- Buff the HELL out of the enemies, I'm talking "local legends times 10" kind of buffs. I want a 20 million hp Coppelia that will one shot you whole team by LOOKING at you. This way the buffs you get will play an even bigger role in the success of your run. *TDLR:* Make it like Simulated Universe already! SU is everything we want Imaginarium Theater to be! Its the PERFECT endgame for Genshin!
@shinobu1886
@shinobu1886 2 ай бұрын
1 is terrible idea, 2 is actually pretty good, 3 would only be good if they removed the timer becuase no one wants another bland Abyss 2.0 DPS check
@lenwok3222
@lenwok3222 2 ай бұрын
quite good suggestions here, i agree. take out the randomness of character collecting along the way and then massively buff the enemies so you need to put many good teams together in order to fully clear it~. EDIT, they could even add this as a whole other new end game mode since its no longer a rougelike which may have been the original intention here
@emmanuel_40
@emmanuel_40 2 ай бұрын
I actually really like the random characters for my account. It's fun to make it work.
@johnpettigrew9420
@johnpettigrew9420 2 ай бұрын
Getting additional buff by exceeding the character mechanics is perhaps the dumbest choice ever. You are much more likely to need the buffs when you DONT have many characters, not when you are exceeding the amount.
@ulrikruby
@ulrikruby 2 ай бұрын
On the other hand. Having build more characters, each character has less investment and is likely weaker. I see why this can be frustrating for newer players, but as someone who has been playing since 1.5, I like that I’m rewarded for building many characters, and those with poor builds can still do something due to the buffs.
@lorraineviruet8973
@lorraineviruet8973 2 ай бұрын
So here’s the thing. For whales we can choose not to use extra characters, and it gets much harder.
@lorraineviruet8973
@lorraineviruet8973 2 ай бұрын
It’s basically just for fun.
@planetary-rendez-vous
@planetary-rendez-vous 2 ай бұрын
Because it rewards horizontal investment I guess.
@shinobu1886
@shinobu1886 2 ай бұрын
It’s been months and you people are still crying about this. Just build your characters and move on.
@Evie0133
@Evie0133 2 ай бұрын
i dunno, Hydro and Pyro being together made this Theater way easier for me :P
@Pxe4
@Pxe4 2 ай бұрын
as a returning player imaginarium theatre confuses the hell out of me
@joeyisabsb1
@joeyisabsb1 2 ай бұрын
I didnt bother using buffs and thought it was hard only to see everyone else having an easier time. I didnt realize it was because the buffs were more essential this time around 😂
@harshitjha4392
@harshitjha4392 2 ай бұрын
Hi dude love ur videos when is the kinich video coming out❤❤
@bryanE26
@bryanE26 2 ай бұрын
I did this today unintentionally on my wife’s account and couldn’t clear the second to last stage
@darkotheeverything3860
@darkotheeverything3860 2 ай бұрын
It is still more doable than the abyss i barely made it to 22 character limit and thats the main issue, they're not going to fix that
@123leyang321
@123leyang321 2 ай бұрын
It should've been 20 character limit (counting with the 6 trials) because that's the bare minimum for 10 stages if you don't consider vigor refresh. If they want to lower the bare minimum, then they will need to put some mandatory vigor refreshes during the run.
@shadowwalker4633
@shadowwalker4633 2 ай бұрын
The requirement is there cuz the 2 bars of energy - you lose 4 people in 2 rounds so it 20 people in 10 rounds - if they make it 20 will make it tight on good chars so 22 is ok -if they give 3 energy that would take down to 16 but would make the other modes way to easy so its ok how it is
@abyssenjoyer
@abyssenjoyer 2 ай бұрын
Its fun when you have the characters ... You are forced to spend or just play the waiting game or pull better as an f2p.
@ayyooojett2353
@ayyooojett2353 2 ай бұрын
Dang I thought it was hard for that main reason lmao I couldn’t just random play through it 😭
@Duppy0906
@Duppy0906 2 ай бұрын
I don't think anything got really fixed in terms of dificulty cause people with the characters properly built for it still do it quite easily, and of course not taking the buffs will make it harder 😭
@Zwallu
@Zwallu 2 ай бұрын
I did a no buff by mistake because I didn't read what the buff cards do. Also no extra character buff as well. I just join and fiight.. It was tough because I was going for stars and only got 8 out of 10. I need to try again with more characters and elemental reaction buff cards. 😂
@stribijev
@stribijev 2 ай бұрын
You did it as a challenge, I had to face that as a necessity. 4 hours of pain, swearings and screaming, and I got it done. The problem is that we need to know beforehand what key characters to save to the end. I think it will be my last IT clear without first looking at other clears or guides.
@drexleribanez
@drexleribanez 2 ай бұрын
this is the only one that i almost had all medals except the first two(used the free characters for that)
@kyori75
@kyori75 2 ай бұрын
GUYS! wait what? no buff = very difficult? I didn't know this until jello said it because I didn't picked any buff lol
@ayss2611
@ayss2611 2 ай бұрын
Was that a m-fing JOJO REFERENCE!??
@kian-ganji
@kian-ganji 2 ай бұрын
I was able to beat every theater till now but i dread a day where they put a combination with geo, anemo, electro The only reason i was able to clear this one is because my account is heavily invested in hydro and dentdro , if i instead of hydro we had geo for IT i wouldn't be able to even enter visionary mode
@anass3501
@anass3501 2 ай бұрын
the jojo ref lol
@Szczurzyslawa
@Szczurzyslawa 2 ай бұрын
I think the number of required characters and 3 element limit is the point of this mode. BUT. I wish we could just go with incomplete teams (solo/two/three characters). The need to use all 4 is annoying.
@jasonseasons1192
@jasonseasons1192 2 ай бұрын
The element restriction is the heart of this mode. But I think they can try to increase the enemy difficulty, and reduce the number of required characters and thus allow you to use a not full team at the same time
@deonardomendez9426
@deonardomendez9426 2 ай бұрын
As of rn, i love the theater updatea. Bcuz the main thing you gotta do is lvl characters now. And i just use all my trash rolled lvl 20 artifacts on the other units lol😅😅🤣. Some oof my characters running around theater with 35-40k hp and like 1200-1600 def😅
@xShikari
@xShikari 2 ай бұрын
Actually thought it's hard and you can't beat the end boss without whaling. Turns out I just had the wrong characters left. It was fine when played differently. Current spiral abyss is way too easy on the other hand. I didn't even need a single retry, just went through without any issues.
@rajendranirusappan8506
@rajendranirusappan8506 2 ай бұрын
Waiting for kinich guide😊
@marcuscooper9544
@marcuscooper9544 2 ай бұрын
SO ANNOYING that there's no replay option on the final battle! I beat it, but I missed the star by a couple seconds... and I have to play the ENTIRE THEATRE AGAIN to try and get the last star!! 🤬
@Zecuto
@Zecuto 2 ай бұрын
It's better but I still don't like this mode.
@fapuloes
@fapuloes 2 ай бұрын
The "it's an end game mode so it should be like this" argument is very bad, mainly because it encourages whaling and therefore seems very unfair towards f2p players. In comparison, the abyss is also considered "end game content" but doesn't require months... hell, years, of gacha pulling, building and grinding. I've been playing this game for well over a thousand hours at this point and barely meet the requirements to even start hard mode in the current theatre, and it absolutely shouldn't be like this. End game shouldn't start after years of grinding. You're missing out on so many primogems that are locked behind an investment gate. It's ridiculous... I'm glad that people who spent a lot of money finally have some fun with the game, I suppose, and in theory I like the idea of having to use all my units, not just the strongest ones, but Genshin *IS* a gacha game and in the context of it that's straight up just poor game design, when the rest of the game worked perfectly fine without having to invest too much into gatcha/horizontal investment, which up until this point was never an issue and made Genshin so F2P friendly to begin with. I mean, hell, you could in theory clear the abyss just with the free characters and not spent a single primogem on Gacha. I'm mostly upset with the community being extremely blind towards this issue. I love Genshin, I spent so much time and even money on it, but you have to admit that gatcha mechanics in any game are super predatory and evil and are a perfect example of everything wrong with the gaming industry. I always liked that the gatcha was optional. I never felt pressured getting any specific character out of fear I wouldn't be able to clear the abyss or anything like that and just focus on the units I personally liked. You could still clear everything the game had to offer with the free content provided and without having to rely on lucky gatcha pulls, but the introduction of the theater and especially now with the extra difficulty this completely changed... and fans are celebrating it?! I don't get it. This game is completely free and provides constant updates, hundreds of hundreds of hours of play time you don't have to spent a single penny on but fans aren't satisfied with that. They needed a game mode that justified their "investment" (or rather addiction).
@alkimkuyucuoglu5420
@alkimkuyucuoglu5420 2 ай бұрын
I think they did a good job. You dont have to get the stars to get the rewards and the whole idea of this segment is to have and build as many chars. as possible. I dont expect them to make any impactful changes for now 🤔
@gabriel23230
@gabriel23230 2 ай бұрын
where is the raiden c2 video? i'm dying here
@rayplzzz
@rayplzzz 2 ай бұрын
hii I've seen a lot of genshin content creators promoting lootbar but is it really a safe platform? is there a risk of chargeback or future trouble?
@IzzyKuroNeko
@IzzyKuroNeko 2 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of them making it harder, I don't want to spend that much time trying to clear the entire thing with full Stellas and I was hoping we'd keep an endgame mode that was friendly to people with skill issues, when the abyss already exists and I can never 36 star it 😩😩😩
@AnsonCarter-q1o
@AnsonCarter-q1o 2 ай бұрын
It's just an extra difficulty level albeit with a couple extra hundred primo gems or so up for grabs. You don't have to play on that difficulty level if you don't want to.
@darkprince2703
@darkprince2703 2 ай бұрын
Forget about choosing extra characters for buff i don't have enough characters for imaginarium theatre for visionary difficulty i only have 17/22 and I'm at 58 f2p
@ashishthakur4726
@ashishthakur4726 2 ай бұрын
Hey @Jello Impact can you help me i have c2 raiden Shogun (got lucky today and pulled 3 con on first 10 pull) which team should i use to max her dmg output. Note I don't have Bennett Plz 🙏
@Taunt_1NG_U
@Taunt_1NG_U 2 ай бұрын
You normally use buffs? I just get characters and then forget the rest lmao, I don't think it was hard except at the beginning when you have like no one, other than that, pretty easy (I'm F2P but am I out of touch?).
@RizampGaming
@RizampGaming 2 ай бұрын
please start adding "upcoming clips" at the start, despise starting in the middle. (i don't know if this was you trying more edits, or a new editor, but wasn't hitting right). I don't wanna sound horrific, still here watching, but no feedback no changes. Love your work man.
@kennithbob
@kennithbob Ай бұрын
As someone who still can't join, hate the game mode
@koltenweber805
@koltenweber805 2 ай бұрын
Mtashed jump scare
@teknowil
@teknowil 2 ай бұрын
great i wasnt able to finish it to begin with.
@pfalzFinest
@pfalzFinest 2 ай бұрын
I like the video idea but really not into the new editing style. I love your content because it was lightly edited and feels authentic. The added memes and stuff make it really generic and like every other KZbinr.
@IndisputableConnoisseur
@IndisputableConnoisseur 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, Jello's signature is how chill and straightforward he is. I think he got a new editor or something, and don't get my wrong, i appreciate their work and effort put into this video. However, having the quasi permanent camera zoom in and outs, and the unnecessary memes every 20 seconds (like this was tiktok where users need to see the same memes and hear the same "funny" sound effects, otherwise they can't enjoy) makes the video more... Generic. i hope that Jello and his new editor (if there's even one, otherwise Jello himself) can reach an equilibrium between simplicity and occasional jokes.
@planetary-rendez-vous
@planetary-rendez-vous 2 ай бұрын
The zoom is so jarring and completely useless, he's not saying anything funny either when it happens.
@icefish17
@icefish17 2 ай бұрын
I cant even finish it with buffs lmao. Act 6 is the highest I got.
@ghnbtrcv8672
@ghnbtrcv8672 2 ай бұрын
Those idiots just increased the number of charters you need instead reducing it. Zero listen to feedback 😢
@BKB77780
@BKB77780 2 ай бұрын
Can you make a updated ganyu guide?
@zillionfurball1451
@zillionfurball1451 2 ай бұрын
I've been playing since launch and I only barely made the character minimum on the hardest mode. 1 it gives me an excuse to build more characters but man do I hate having to fight bosses a million times for each character and I got no more mora lol
@shinobu1886
@shinobu1886 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been playing for about a year and a half, since 3.6/7, and I was able fully max all of the bonus slots for visionary mode, and only 1 character (Diluc) was fake built just as a slot filler, the rest were fully and properly built. I guess I had the advantage of always wanting to build a variety of characters from the beginning, rather than people who only invested in like 2 teams for Abyss. But it’s certainly achievable, and the older this mode gets, the more prepared people will become.
@zillionfurball1451
@zillionfurball1451 2 ай бұрын
@@shinobu1886 yeah I've almost always just stuck with the same steam comes out lol and rarely build a new support. My xiangling still isn't built💀
@tekatosensei
@tekatosensei 2 ай бұрын
My guy just use your constellations it doesn't matter your account is not relatable to f2p anyway.
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