It's FINISHED | Investarms Gemmer Hawken How to Build Part 24

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks for all the great comments folks! Really means a lot! For those asking, here is a link to where you can read more about the patch lube I'm using in this video - bs-bp.com/bearoil.html

[@mojomike3913]

I'm considering building this same kit as my first flintlock but I've had a few people tell me that the Investarms lock is substandard and has issues. What was you impression of the lock?

[@jacobwilbert1018]

​@mojomike3913 Basically a TC lock, uses a coil for the main spring. Its no Chambers or L&R but the only real problem is angle of the jaws. Your gonna wanna have your flint bevel down to get your contact higher up the frizzen. Still it will only strike at maybe the halfway mark. Its not ideal but its fine, they work.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

@@mojomike3913 Sorry mike, don't know how I missed this. It's an okay lock, fine for hunting, but I've had difficulty with the breech design when trying to do match style shooting. It's been great for a few shots here and there, but when trying to do a lot of shooting it can struggle. Working on a 100 shot review video for this piece.

[@shaneschaefer1908]

Looks amazing. I love the old wood look.

[@JayGlascoe]

17:19 "Man, that's exactly what I want." Extremely satisfying.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

It's the best feeling!

[@jamesrunningwind-vu3kn]

On the wood stock, I used the crimson fire red. It came out reddish pink in the sun. The wife loved it, said thankyou and took it 😆 lol

[@jrexplores5488]

You may be the bob ross of the muzzleloader community

[@J_C_Firelocks]

Nice job Ethan and thanks for the continued support of our sport!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you Jack! Appreciate it!

[@RyanMurray-dr4rw]

I have a TC .50 flintlock Hawken (factory built), and a CVA .54 flintlock (was percussion and I converted it) Hawken kit that came to me half finished. I finished it the way I wanted and both are working guns. Love them so much I sold off all my other firearms. Now I've got the hunger to do a full build (75%, I'm not blacksmithing the metal parts) but would love to carve the stock, all inletting, etc. More pride when you say you made it.

[@alanparadis5061]

great video, and I think your mention of the guy who passed that made the bag and horn is a cool dedication... you've got class Ethan, good man brother!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you kindly Alan! Means a lot.

[@calebswartz6273]

Absolutely fantastic. Can’t wait to watch the rest of the series… I started here first. I’m about to do the same project. Thanks for trailblazing!

[@Blackpowderdad]

Dude that thing looks AMAZING!! I love the aged dark look. Well done sir well done!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you Beezo! It's certainly different but I can't wait to get it back on the range again.

[@mikesimmons7539]

Sweet , now lets see it shoot . Great work .

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you Mike! more shooting vids with it on the way

[@gregm2614]

Hi, Ethan! I never normally take the time to write KZbin comments, but I did want to take the time to thank you for your contribution to the community. I started work on a Traditions Trapper a couple of months back and was able to make a nice finished piece following your guide over on the NMLRA page. It's my first muzzleloader, and I'll get to go make my first smoke (with supervision) next weekend with it. Following your page, I also found out about the spring shoot in time to make it down to Friendship. I had no idea that the Mecca of muzzleloading was an hour from where I live! That's all to say that your work is appreciated. At least for me, you've provided an entryway into a broad and sometimes complex hobby/sport/art. I hope that you do keep making your content for as long as you find enjoyment in it. Have a great 4th! G

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Greg, thank you so much for taking the time to write - it truly means a lot to me! How do you like your trapper pistol? I could see adding one to my collection someday. Will you be at the NMLRA September shoot? I'll likely be there the first Saturday, shoot me an email and we can try to meet up! Would love to shake your hand and see your pistol. All the best, Ethan

[@jackblackpowderprepper4940]

I have watched this entire build. During which the praise and the criticism of others but you built what you wanted. Good job Ethan. I will trade you 6 beaver pelts, a jug of whiskey and my horse for it. Lol. Looks Sweet.👍

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Now with the horse that sounds tempting, throw in a saddle and we have a deal! LOL I don't know that I will ever be able to part with it, like a dog it's been with me for a while now haha.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

That rascal has fast ignition! Awesome build. I can't wait to see it in action again soon....

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Mark! I’ll bring it when we can meet up!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Looks great!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you Jake! It was a great ride

[@nicktrueman224]

I remember when I built my rifle shope musket the amount of time making sure my underlugs and corresponding chiseled out areas to except the lugs took me over a week before committing to the work. I measured and double checked measurements so many times. And then it came to the barrel pin holes in the fore end and that was another few days of measuring and checking until it was time to commit. And it came out well, not bragging it was a real learning curve for me, and was so relieved that it worked out.

[@adambrosius]

Hey Ethan, I just got done watching this series. Awesome job on the rifle! I love how it turned out! I wish i would have watched this sooner. I just got done doing a Pedersoli .36 cal. Pennsylvania flintlock kit and your tips and tricks would have saved me a lot of headaches. I guess I'll have to do a Gemmer .54 cal. now to see if I can do better. Thanks for the great videos and please dont cut yourself short. You are a VERY skilled craftsman!! Not many people can accomplish what you just did. thanks again. Adam P.S. Love seeing shop cat with you. He's great!

[@marktaylor8659]

The finished rifle looks beautiful and I've enjoyed watching the build series. Thanks for sharing.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you kindly Mark! It's been a fun one. Thank you for watching

[@victordively72]

Enjoyed you sharing all the details on your Hawken build. Turned out great! Enjoying the rest of your content, also.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Awesome, thank you!

[@donmartin2788]

really enjoyed watching your build and your shootlng your rifle wishing you many years of fun with it.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you for watching along with me. I hope you can build one someday!

[@hawkenrifles]

Hi Ethan. I want to congratulate you from Spain, for how well your Investarms rifle has finished, a replica quite similar to an original Hawken. I have followed all your steps, video after video. You have worked very well, with great skill and patience. It is a pity that these rifles are not imported in Spain because they have a coil spring lock, although I have the Dikar Hawken Mountain (CVA), in 58 caliber and the Pedersoli Hawken Rocky Mountain in 54 caliber. I have also had a Hawken Woodsman from Ardesa (Traditions), like the one you have. Congratulations and best regards from Spain.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you and thank you for watching! I'm sorry to hear they are not imported to Spain, the Spaniards are really missing out! Thank you for following along and best wishes to you!

[@hawkenrifles]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading Hello. Thank you for your videos. You are doing a very good job with them. I hope you make one on the original Hawkens and make another Investarm kit (from the Lyman Great Plains), but percussion and in .54 caliber. I and other people learn from your videos. Greetings from Spain.

[@miketoombs627]

Congratulation's Ethan. It is a fine rifle. I wish I had resources like you when I built my kit in 1983. I got a box of parts and hunk of walnut that was barley worked had to figure alot out on my own. Your series of videos is very helpful to someone thinking about building a kit. I look forward to load development videos and adjusting of sight etc.

[@heitorp.c.1327]

Really nice to see the project done! It came out beautiful!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you!

[@throatpunch4789]

You are doing more than your share of keeping muzzleloading alive. Thank you!

[@jasondyer110]

That’s really a beautiful looking build. I appreciate you and your time on your channel. Please keep them coming. Thanks Ethan

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks, will do!

[@mrsandiegovlogs]

Great video man.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you!

[@bigrickshaberdashery2759]

I don't believe the journey is over, hope to see you and the new rifle at an upcoming shoot. congrats

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Most definitely, this muzzleloader will hopefully be shot for generations after me, as it should! Thanks for watching Big Rick!

[@smokietreats1]

Well done; I know a lot of hard work went into it. I love the passion and legitimate enjoyment you bring to every video you post; thank you for sharing your enthusiasm with the community. You turned out a lovely little brush gun 😄

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you Smokie!

[@TK-lt9kr]

LOVE your videos. I've been hunting off and on for some years with traditional caplocks, but will be getting my first flintlock in a week or so (Investarms Gemmer Hawken .50). I'm so looking forward to experimenting and figuring this all out. You've already been very helpful!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

So glad to hear it! That’s why I do it!

[@thomas.bill92]

Heck yeah! That rifle came out beautiful.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Bill!

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

Wow she came out gorgeous. Great job!!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you! 😊

[@shawnmcclain9098]

Nice looking Hawken Ethan. I just bought one of these kits and look forward to the build. Your videos definitely gave me some cool ideas. Definitely going to work the stock into a more historic looking stock. Thanks for the great videos and the inspiration!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I love to hear it!

[@mdog1615]

That looks great man ! I Just bought a Traditions kit to build with my son this summer holiday. Looking forward to it !

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@johnhagerman320]

Beautiful!! I love black powder

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Me too!

[@ducktapepilot]

Very cool rifle! It turned out really nice. Kind of looks antique but also new at the same time

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you ducktape!

[@mrdinme.4768]

Great looking rifle! Came out very nice! Shoots too! Lol I give ya a bunch a credit,you did you! All the work n time you put in, worth it! Its been fun watching this come along. Thanks for taking us along!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks for following along Mr. D! I think it's a real shooter! For the price that's hard to beat in my book. Hope to meet ya on the range someday!

[@PapaCubScout]

NICELY DONE!! I don't have the patience to do my own build. But love my blackpower flintlock. Congratulations and thank you for sharing. It was fun to see this journey.

[@lynnlabauve9319]

Nice I enjoyed the entire production you did great work!!!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you!

[@rocklicker639]

Great video and even better gun, well done sir.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you

[@brucelewis1017]

I just picked up a cabelas/investarms 58cal hawkens last weekend. Information I got on it it has a 1:48 twist and it was built in 1996

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

That's wonderful Bruce!! I hope you enjoy it!

[@tedpfenninger4972]

Thanks! I'm building the similar lyman Great plains, learned a lot from your videos! Really liked the artificial tiger stripes. Great rifle.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Ted! Glad it is informative for you.

[@phillipiacobacci1369]

Very nice video. Gun looks fantastic. Thanks for the video and info

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you for watching. Hope you enjoyed.

[@williamcrawford7982]

Amazing job,what fun ,well done

[@MrPanchoak]

Pretty good lock time there.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I agree. The way people talk, these locks are junk but I've had a great experience with this one.

[@MrPanchoak]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading I bought their cheap flintlock carbine. Ugly black plastic stock, no under rib .24 inch barrel and 1/48 twist. Hate the sights. Overall possibly the best shooting flinter I've ever shot. Flawless and quick ignition nearly as quick as a caplock. Keep the Frizzen clean and dry, keep the rock sharp, clean and dry, keep the touch hole clean. And it will never fail you.

[@chickensandwich1589]

Good stuff, as always. I really like that shooting bag!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you!

[@dwightharley3924]

Very nice! Thanks for posting

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

My pleasure!

[@johnmuffy2848]

Ethan, the nose cap, and escution plates gemmer left white. It is lookin good.

[@robertshuffelen9172]

I build muzzle loaders. I think you did a great job and the rifle looks good! I also enjoy your video's! Thank you!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Robert! What kind of muzzleloaders do you like to build?

[@youtubeisstoopid]

Beautiful work.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you very much!

[@johnnyg3103]

Awesome work, lots of great insight!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@genebohannon]

Awesome build!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Glad you think so!

[@HeathenHammer123]

Stunning

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@norseman5041]

Nice build, I built a Hawken many many moons ago, that gun is a tack driver. For the purists, the barrel hold down wedges should go in from the left 🙂

[@alphadogpredators]

Is there a stain on that stock or just the oil

[@Wildwest89]

Great job

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks!

[@lonnieevans4127]

My percussion Hawken kit just arrived and I’ll be putting it together later this summer. I really like how your dark on dark came out so I’ll blue the barrel, black the brass, and use a deep stain. This will be my first and only wood stock, cold blued rifle. Can I use a simple mineral oil or gun oil over all the parts in the last step instead of the specialty oils?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Absolutely you can Lonnie. I recommend the mineral oil over the gun oil on your wood stock, it will be a "cleaner" oil and shouldn't color your stock any. The gun oil might have a different color that could dye your stock an ugly green. Feel free to use the gun oil on your metal hardware.

[@rambosnake666]

Love it

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you Joe!

[@royshobe6642]

awesome!,thanks for making this video

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

You are most welcome.

[@kesleycottrell1416]

Might have to bring that beast to PA. Flintlock season starts the day after Christmas. It's awesome to take a deer with a flintlock.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I'd love to hunt in PA someday!

[@jasonrobinson9970]

Awesome rifle and build , but if you mind me asking where did you get the book from

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

The book is available from Track of the Wolf and the NMLRA. You can call the NMLRA at [phone] and see if they have some in stock

[@donfullbright8468]

Nice explanation

[@arrow3061]

man! i know its been awhile, you did a lot of work on that thing, thanks. i had my old hawken stolen . and just ordered another kit . i hate that it comes with a plastic rear sight . whats up with all that . does it cost that much to cut another dove tail for the rear sight ?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Which hawken did you order? There are several screw on metal sights available you can bolt on rather quickly for a more traditional look.

[@arrow3061]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading the traditions, st louis hawken , same one i had from 30 yrs ago. the old one i had was steel and it screwed on to i believe but it was steel. any recommendations on steel sights?

[@royshobe6642]

thanks for making this video

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you for watching!

[@terrysmith8714]

Good Job. Cheers.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks!

[@michaelhayes7471]

Nice rifle looks great

[@genebohannon]

Looks great

[@BillRaby]

Looks good. You are ready to start building from blanks now.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you Bill! I have some pistol parts on the bench now, but don't think I'll share that here, will have to be somewhere else...

[@scottwoodward7139]

Well done, I watch it from beginning to the end and really enjoy it. What are you going to build now can’t wait. Looking forward to the load development and see now that all goes, will it be used for hunting and at rendezvous?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Not sure what comes next, going to get back into some shooting and load testing for the rest of the summer. What do you think I should build next?

[@scottwoodward7139]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading How about a baker rifle, or a Indian trade gun or a flintlock side-by-side shotgun. Where I am on Vancouver Island British Columbia a few of us have trade guns in our Black Powder club. I’ve got trade gun it was already put together, I know one person who is putting together a baker rifle . I kind of fell for the baker rifle after seeing the TV series sharp.

[@tomgensel4134]

Well Done 👍🇺🇸

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks!

[@davefellhoelter1343]

WELL! Done! Sorry for the Loss of your Buddy! I must Imagine He Would APROVE! Built my 1st PB 1858 kit in 1977 as an 11 yr old! I just finished a reproduction! I was NOT Going for the Same detail of Finish as YOU! I keep it simple on my stock. heated stock with home made bore butter, leather wood conditioner, and a rub off of extra then the linseed oil and rub once a day for awhile? Love Your SHOP! DARN! It JUST KEEPS! Looking Better!! I am a good gun smith and do my own plating with bluing and BP manufacturing! and Not much FEAR of failure? My BE TIME TO TAKE ON ONE of These BUILDS!! I have thought about getting into "Cap" Locks? I must think this can be built either Flint or Cap? You are as "EXPERT" as ANY of Us!! just younger with less miles!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you Dave! 1977! That's so cool!! I wish I was around then, it was a great era for muzzleloading!! I hope you can start building these for yourself, you will find great joy in it. This kit, or a kit very similar is available in caplock- I'd love to have one of those as well. Percussion locks are so much fun!!

[@jamesrunningwind-vu3kn]

Explain the front sight fitting of the metal front sight

[@edge-fq5yw]

Beautiful rifle

[@garrylycos4795]

How did you age your brass

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

This kit didn’t have any brass

[@matthewmillar3804]

I recently found out muzzleloader kits are a thing. I'm normally into more modern rifles (like 100 year old Mausers) but now I want a smoke pole! 😊

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Welcome to the hobby! You'll find lots of fun!

[@kitbruttig1995]

Hi Ethan Nice Hawken! Would love to see installing a "replacement" flint lock from L&R to check out the process, if it becomes necessary. 😃

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks so much Kit! A replacement lock is on my list to try out, I think it could be fun.

[@chuckchamplin6627]

@I Love Muzzleloading. can you buy this Flintlock pre built ????????

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I believe so!

[@paulnelson3999]

Greatest job!👏 I have the same rifle that I purchased used (not as fancy though)

[@nicktrueman224]

I live in the sub tropics and I understand why you mentioned using a modern lacquer but I have never had to ever resort to this. I would be upset at myself for such a thing. Linseed oil mixed with gum turpentine has been my choice and I like a satin finish which with use begins to polish areas of the stock. I have had problems with mould but not on modern replica muzzleloaders. There is a good all round product here safe for organic materials which kills mould. But I have only encountered this twice in my life and we have killer humid summers.

[@neilstegall-z7q]

White vinegar best.

[@jimf1964]

I asked you once before, but forgot to write down your answer, and I can’t find which video I asked, so I’ll ask again. Can you please recommend a couple brands that are reasonably affordable, and of good quality? I’m planning on getting into this within the next year, and I think building my own would not only be fun, but as you said, I would know the gun inside and out. How could you start out in something in a better way?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Certainly! There's nothing wrong with starting with the Traditions Brand, thousands of folks do. It's a lower price point and easier to handle on a budget. From there if you want something more, the InvestArms models like this one have been great to me. This rifle does a nice job. Once you break 1000 clams, you are into the Pedersoli models, as well as the Kibler. Pedersoli has a wide selection of eras and models. The Kiblers are a more limited selection, but the quality is top notch on the market. I hope this helps, reach out anytime!

[@michaelgibbs3011]

Although I have one and adore it, there were no flintlock Hawkens. I found that out after buying a very "authentic" gun. My favorite rifle but I cannot get past the fact that my expensive reproduction never existed "back then."

[@ervingoertzen7233]

Nice

[@johnmuffy2848]

Where is the Floop?

[@kitbruttig1995]

Next project: How about a Track of the Wolf full stock Hawken flint rifle kit?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Maybe!

[@nonokodog622]

I'd prefer bees wax on the wood screw threads. I feel like oil can soften the wood over time. +1 on the hand drill, super helpful tool I use my grandpa's often.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Beeswax is great to use! Old tools are the best

[@larrycaro1333]

Cool

[@Archenhaust]

Just saw you on Reddit. Just subscribed. Wanted to let you know Reddit got you noticed.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Wow thanks Wes

[@IsaacsonSeth]

Awesomesauce

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Seth!

[@lawrencelaforest6545]

You need to buy a screw driver set from brownells.

[@stevebuckskinner5482]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Steve!

[@TyrusPerises]

Congrats, and great choice of target to break the girl in hahaha. Damn Tories!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Joel!!

[@mtcowboyblue]

Oh man the screwdrivers make me cringe inside. Love the build! Looks great! But man you need some gunsmith screwdrivers!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

LOL, in the heat of the moment I should have gotten them out. I'll be eternally roasted for it - rightfully so

[@bobkelly2447]

Um your not using the 2 trigger system correctly I don't think.... on my cap and ball CVA rifle I built I would fully cock the hammer squeeze the 1st trigger till it clicked then a fine touch on the 2nd trigger set it off (releases the hammer) the idea of the 2 triggers is so you can set the amount of the trigger pull the beauty of that is really important when target shooting if the set trigger is set too hard your groups will be erratic.... but when you set it correctly and use it correctly it is unbeatable ! i believe that is the way all black powder rifles are set up with double triggers the first trigger from the muzzle back is your set trigger it's a hard pull... the second trigger is the firing trigger.... at least that is the way I used it....

[@shadetreemech290]

The only thing left to do is take a white tail deer with it.

[@johnmuffy2848]

He needs a schmuzzle, and Boop!

[@olskool3967]

well, you were talking about "traditional oils" any of the modern so-called oils, all have polyurethane in them. Danish oil, tru-oil, tung oil, and on and on. you can buy real tung oil from the real milk paint store online. but the tung oil and most anything else you buy from a handwear store, lowes, Home Depot, ect. all are loaded with polyurethane. why do you think it is sticky and shiny? i like it but it is not even close to the way they really finished them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks OLSKOOL, I appreciate you watching and your comment. I'll admit I'm not a chemist so I didn't know these oils had polyurethane in them. I guess I see it a little differently because there is not a coat of straight polyurethane on top of the wood grain. Thanks for watching! I hope you can follow along as I continue to try to spread the good word of muzzleloading

[@MohammedaLi-po8jr]

Plsrepeat former parts