It’s Not Just LA! Why U.S. Water Systems Fail In Massive Fire Fights

[@Kadulikan]

You can clear brush and fireproof homes, or you can wait until a literal hurricane of fire comes along and hope there's enough water to put it out.

[@Davethreshold]

Define, "fireproof." Very few homes, no matter what you do to them will survive THAT.

[@Goodguy1ful]

@@Davethreshold exactly --- I live in LA .. "Uncleared brush" was not the reason the disaster here happned

[@Kadulikan]

@@Davethreshold That's my point. Once a fire gets to that level, there's not much to be done. It's more effective to focus on prevention and mitigation. Ask your local fire marshal to inspect your house and they'll tell you which trees to cut down, what kind of roof vents to install, which sprinklers to replace, etc.

[@brandonmullins5865]

@@Davethreshold not build home completely out of wood. look at standards set by countries like Australia that have worse fire then LA just never hear of them because its not USA

[@FloTauber]

When you clear brushes in the LA area you will have problems with mud- and landslides because of the underlying geology and fireproofing homes in the US it´s a impossible thing to do because you have to change the mentality of the US citizen and the construction methods and materials that are used for decades

[@jaymacpherson8167]

I find it incredible there is a section on “the blame game” in this story…Because the language used by the narrator before that section implicitly casts blame on the water system several times. For instance… Ms Zoloth as an intro commenter “…you would think they would be prepared for this…“ is the lead that implicitly bashes LA for being unprepared. As following experts state, there is not a single water system on the planet that is built to address what occurred. Once the fire destroys a structure, it becomes an open pipe (or “straw”). Each additional structure destroyed means another open pipe, with a subsequent reduction of system pressure. This is in addition to the firefighters use of hydrants. So why even include Ms Zoloth’s comment? Is it some lame attempt to try to have “balanced reporting?” At 3:20 “to understand what went wrong with the hydrants” presumes the hydrants could have prevented the scale of destruction. That is false. There is no fault with the hydrants. At 3:30 “feed water into several holding locations” fails to mention those include 14 major dams and reservoirs in Los Angeles County plus many smaller ones reservoirs. Sadly by 9 1/2 minutes and I just can’t take anymore of the crap .

[@Tokamak3.1415]

CNBC is carrying water for the guilty. While it's to just drop a name of a single person, and often times the end responsibility stops with at the top, there are several people that can be blamed. People make mistakes - it's human nature to err. Failure to acknowledge those mistakes means this is going to just repeat itself like 1961 and 1993. There's no point in talking about hydrants and water pressure when 3 days before the event weather service issued a dangerous threat warning. The mayor decided to leave. Nobody bothered to check contingencies for pumping station failure or ask for tactics if aerial support is lost. That's why the response to the Palisade fire was over 45 minutes. Didn't help that LAFD is down about 27% of their trucks because the budget cuts primarily hit the mechanics. Indeed it is crap. Media talking about misinformation when the narrator and editor can't even explain Bernoulli's law after publishing the video. Why not ask why Glipizide doesn't work on a diabetic with pancreatic beta cell failure. Why not ask how to stop Space Shuttle Columbia from disintegrating after the ablative shield has failed. Yep, nobody to blame apparently.

[@jk35260]

U.S. has been careless with water, creating an economy that consumes far more than nature can replenish. Today, much of the country faces serious water shortages-reservoirs like Lake Mead are at record lows, and the Ogallala Aquifer is being depleted faster than it can recharge. Groundwater levels have dropped so low that many plants can’t reach it, and poor soil management reduces water infiltration. Decades of misuse, combined with climate change, have made ecosystems drier and more prone to wildfires. Dead vegetation doesn’t decompose due to lack of moisture, fueling even bigger fires. It’s a vicious cycle that need to address.

[@jaymacpherson8167]

@ True. Desal plants need a discharge. California has excessive regulations that make it easier to approve sending the brine inland than to return it to the sea. I have forgotten the names of the regulatory agencies involved. But to put it succinctly… It’s a hot mess.

[@fresmontana9214]

@@jaymacpherson8167 what many people fail to realize is that the expectation isn't for the fire to have never happened or spread but to reduce the damaged that would ultimately occur. Which ultimately can be blamed on officials if they miss managed water facilities, firefighters or other fire fighting equipment. Which there is not doubt they didn't.

[@jaymacpherson8167]

@ Maybe I should have defined “water system.” A water system is a legal entity, responsible for providing safe drinking water. Typically hydrants are connected to that system, and the water system is responsible for their maintenance such as periodic flushing. Firefighting is a completely different category.

[@Educated2Extinction]

"This area's known for having fire issues", yet people keep building there.

[@chiquita683]

They build a $100 million home hanging off a cliff in a fire zone then want middle america to pay for it to be rebuilt when it burns down.

[@almac2534]

Or... Crazy idea... Keep the reservoirs ready.

[@oo00oo9]

And the authorities deliver permits

[@Educated2Extinction]

@@almac2534 So, you didn't watch the video?

[@almac2534]

@@Educated2Extinction apparently you didn't because it literally named the reservoir that was closed was the Santa Inez.. Meaning they had 40 times less water then they should have...

[@Dmsfhg]

Yes, no one to blame. Let’s keep doing it.

[@Stallion_1044]

It's never the woke elites who are responsible. It's the people. That's what the media always tells you

[@sbarley]

​@@Stallion_1044 remember that california is still a red state. the only "woke" part of it is the aestheticu love to focus on

[@rodericksumaway5441]

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[@DS-gt1ft]

You mean like building homes in FL and the gulf coast only to be washed away by hurricanes EVERY YEAR or two? Or maybe building homes ANYWHERE in the flat Midwest to be blown away by tornados EVERY YEAR or so. Keep in mind, these were the worst fires in this are EVER. It's not like it happens every year guys.

[@TruthHasSpoken]

No amount of water in some pool is going to put out a brush / forest fire, with brush / forest not having any rain for nearly 6 months, fed by 70+ MPH winds in rugged mountains. The reporting here is nonsensical.

[@KayAcceptableVersion]

This, another report mentioned wind conditions in LA were so bad, fires were not able to be controlled and fire aircraft were completely grounded. A hose is not the primary way wildfires are fought.

[@CRiver396]

The takeaway from this CNBC story is that nobody is to blame. However, if this were on the other side of their biased news reporting, they would instantly find someone to blame.

[@saulgoodman2018]

YEP. Just like the left are going with the plane crash. They are already blaming Trump.

[@Pyrrhic.]

I think they said LA were somewhat to blame for the infrastructure shortcomings, but overall even with water continuously flowing, the fire wouldn't have been stopped due to the winds.

[@joeliber580]

⁠@@Pyrrhic.exactly. You physically cannot stop large wind-driven fires with water.

[@boohere2]

I just blame the person starting the fire.

[@saulgoodman2018]

@Pyrrhic. it could have mitigated them.

[@lg206]

The bigger question is, if water supply and pressure were an issue during the 1961 LA wildfires, why is this discussion still being had today?!

[@patrickjr11]

Money, and who gets to pay for it. If it is voter driven, no one is going to pay.

[@timothylavender191]

It's an excuse, like climate change! It happens every year! These idiots are just that, idiots! Democrats!!!

[@EduardoEscarez]

@@patrickjr11 Yes, is going to a multi-billion dollar investment plus construction, new piping, new facilities, etc; and that create the problems about who should pay it and if its fully valuable to do that investment. But that is going to a another discussion of where is really safe to rebuild if this kind of fire keeping happening again.

[@Pyrrhic.]

It was stated in the video. The cost were high and no one wanted to pay for it. It is usually after a disaster that the cost structure changes and people are willing to pay for it.

[@lg206]

@ that is the part I don’t get. When you look at the dollar value of the 1961, 1993, 2018 and 2025 wildfires, I am pretty sure the cost of rebuilding is likely tenfold then the cost of preparation and prevention. And now it’s even worse because insurance companies don’t want to touch California with a 10 foot pole.

[@camilosixtino]

You don't need water to fight grass fires, You need cattle and same controlled fire.

[@faridjafari6356]

The LA fire is a side effect of the zoning policy of the city resulting in most of the area covered by one to two story detached single family homes which are mostly made by wood which is much cheaper in this kind of homes and also very vulnerable to fire.

[@RandomGuy-qm3mg]

so what materiel should be used? Brick? Concrete? Heavy materials are often better for fire protection but worse when an earthquake hits. Also most of the homes in Altadena were 70 to 100 years old so codes were different back then.

[@faridjafari6356]

@@RandomGuy-qm3mg Dear friend, Homes with concrete and steel are a little bit but please notice that if you build higher with more house units in the same land it becomes economic and cheaper than short wooden homes and building more and higher is something you can not easily do with wood.

[@48grainsoffreedom]

I love how the Americans always ask the wrong questions for every catastrophe happening to them. Fires in California caused devastation, not because of lack of water but because the houses are made with crap materials, they are built too close to each other, but also how areas prone to be sensitive to fires like cliff sides and exposed mountains should not be built, and how eco-fascism has lead to do not let forest and park management to take properly care of the natural areas by regularly cleaning the grounds and to let small controlled fires going through these areas every 2 or 3 years, such huge massive fires would not happen. But it goes against the master dollar, the corruption of the American leaders, and the greed of individuals and corporations: the American dream.

[@Guzmania]

No one blames firefighters nor expected them to stop the fire hurricane. Buildings have survived due to fireprotection designed into the building, it is the government's responsibility to update the fire code and enforce it.

[@privacyvalued4134]

One other thing to point out is that water used to fight fires does not need to be potable. Potable is a fancy way of saying "drinking water." The water you and I drink needs to be clean and free of debris, diseases, heavy metals, etc. The water that gets dumped onto a fire only needs to be water, so non-potable water works fine to fight fires.

[@abhishekgarg5286]

Firefighters standing around a house and peeing on it. That's a nice way to stop a fire.

[@rodericksumaway5441]

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[@Davethreshold]

I was in Northern and southern California to visit my Brothers in the Mid-80's. The organic coastlines were BEAUTIFUL. Now there are many homes amongst them. My heart goes out to EVERYBODY there, except for the ones who WRECKED that coastline by building on it. I have ZERO sympathy for them.

[@Roman-nu1om]

Many of those houses could've been saved if home owners made use of the pool water by using a generator driven water pump and a hose. It's kinda odd that despite the vast wealth in this region even rich people wouldn't take matters into their own hands instead completely relying on the fire department.

[@jacktoy3032]

One mitigating factor that could reduce the demand on water during a wildland-urban interface fire is for all homes to be constructed with fire-resistant material, which the current CA building code mandates. Homeowners have a responsibility to ensure there is no fuel for the fire within 5 feet of the house and no material that the fire can use to climb and shower the roof with flaming embers. Should homeowners install their own large cisterns to capture rainwater and hold it for use during the dry season? Should the government encourage it, at minimum, ensure that no home owner is prevented from installing their own cistern?

[@ThomasFromTN]

Those fires literally fit to a t the personification of the adage, "out of control." The amount of water necessary to be instantly accessible to have mitigated the impact of these fires could easily have represented the possibility of creating flood conditions. That's how far and fast and furious those fires were.

[@saulgoodman2018]

Didn't CA sue someone for collecting rain water?

[@rodericksumaway5441]

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[@firstlast-oy7uk]

This report comes across as highly political and one-sided, lacking any real skeptical or critical analysis-just a series of excuses. It’s disappointing because there’s a clear eagerness to frame Trump as misinformed, yet the report provides no real scrutiny of the claims themselves. Did he truly misinform, or is that simply the chosen narrative? Based on this report alone, we can’t say for sure, as it fails to offer a balanced perspective.

[@robf8349]

It's one sided because one side (Trump) is just totally wrong. They correctly point out that his claims about the smelt have nothing to do with fighting this fire. Southern CA reservoirs had enough water. They just didn't have infrastructure in place to pump massive massive amounts of it uphill to the Palisades because these systems were not designed to fight forest fires. You can critique them not improving that infrastructure but it is absolutely 0.00% related to any fish conservation measures in northern CA. It's a very simple example of Trump being wrong and requires a level of willful ignorance to not see that.

[@saulgoodman2018]

@@robf8349 Protecting the fish went to court. They sided with the government to reroute water.

[@robf8349]

@saulgoodman2018 Okay? The Supreme Court also ruled that a tomato is a vegetable not a fruit, which has the same relevance to the LA fires as the smelt. Whether the fish protections are good or bad or anything is not what I (or the CNBC video) are engaging with. Trump made a very linear and false statement that these fires specifically are because of the smelt protections and that is... Just. Not. True. Nothing more nothing less.

[@saulgoodman2018]

@@robf8349 Trump never said it was because of the fish. He said by them diverting the water any was not helping. Of course you just want to dismiss the truth.

[@robf8349]

​@@saulgoodman2018 Buddy you make me sad. There is clearly no length you won't shift the goalposts to avoid confronting the fact that Trump lies about this (and many other things). The facts we are dealing with (indisputably) are: 1. There are raging fires in LA county 2. Hydrants run dry during the firefighting 3. Reservoirs in the LA area at the time of the fire were at above normal levels 4. The water diversions due to fish protections can at times affect the water levels in these reservoirs. So then Trump says "He (Newsom) wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt, by giving it less water (it didn’t work!), but didn’t care about the people of California. Now the ultimate price is being paid." Now what is wrong with this quote? HE"S IGNORING THE 3RD BULLET POINT ABOVE. Yes clearly something went wrong at some point leading to hydrants running dry (point 2). If that were to be caused by the water policy of the smelt (point 4) as Trump claims...... then by definition the reservoirs that are fed from northern CA would have to have been empty! BUT THEY WERE FULL.

[@JohnSmith-oe9nh]

Please stop using “misinformation” to describe blatant lies.

[@droger1448]

The thumbnail of the water hydrant blowing out flames is absolutely diabolical work

[@rodericksumaway5441]

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[@seanf5634]

The report didn't mention the state prevents brush clearance and controlled burns due to environmental concerns and habitat. The result is years of brush growth that fueled these fires.

[@kristaporkhach]

The County, State, and Federal government have different areas of responsibility. This isn't solely a State issue.

[@larrymock5108]

How about building in a known fire zone.

[@freddiecarr7602]

@@kristaporkhach CYA

[@kristaporkhach]

@@freddiecarr7602 IDK

[@Educated2Extinction]

@seanf5634 There's also a lack of funding for doing that work. Wildfire fighters are typically seasonal, so they are only working to fight fires, not prevent them.

[@travisspazz1624]

Not when the fires are the size of entire cities!! Not enough firefighters and not enough water pressure.

[@theageofhypocrisee]

No water in 1/2 of the reservoir in Palisades.. and that reserve was high in the mountains so could have flowed down easily.

[@steveevans7805]

Kim Kardashian's two properties in Hidden Hills used 232,000 gallons more water than their June allotment, DURING A DROUGHT! imagine the whole celebrity community........there is enough for everyone there is not enough for everyones greed! imagine how many firefighters you could fire if you taxed their excesses. fine them for every single gallon use that money to fund public services!

[@1rjona]

Can't they use seawater for firefighting? Better to be salty than burned

[@linusmlgtips2123]

​@@theageofhypocriseeWater experts have already said it wouldn't have made a difference. The problem is physics, not the amount of water.

[@chiquita683]

Always remember the houses were owned by the millionaires and billionaires Bernie Sanders told to pay their fair share.

[@mistervo8185]

Out of water? Why not pump sea water to stop the fire? The ocean is right there.

[@madbug1965]

That was a hurricane made out of fire. There was absolutely no way of stopping that.

[@chiquita683]

One way of stopping it was to deport the people going around with gasoline cans setting the fire

[@LiveWell6]

The winds are fires are nothing new. Yet this has never happens to this degree ever. The fire can be stopped. Yes some homes cannot be defended but 12,000 homes burning is mostly due to the poor response. Also the deaths are mostly all due to the very late evacuation orders. I spoke with many fire evacuees as I work in Pasadena and most told me how they escaped with minutes to spare. The ones that died were often older folks who likely never knew what was going on or expected a first responder to come to their door... which did not happen.

[@saulgoodman2018]

It was not windy the whole day.

[@rodericksumaway5441]

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[@Goodguy1ful]

LA's second most destructive fire happned here in 1962 ( The "Bel Air "fire ) over 450 homes was burned and destroyed ... and as it turns out it was due to the same main factor ( wind ) and fighter fighters had the same issue with low water pressure from hydrants

[@bluettr250]

Nothing is gonna fight 100 miles per hour fire storm

[@TheIVJackal]

Lots of other "experts" in here disagree... lol. The brain rot is so real! Maybe the hydrants were too DEI or something 🙄

[@Ell10183]

Yeah water can water

[@benmcreynolds8581]

(i really think they should Install individual water spraying systems onto the perimeter of the individual houses) Also I highly recommend watching the 2 videos uploaded on the "What is going on with shipping?" KZbin channel. He has years of experience fighting fires & explains things that need to be done. I feel for anyone who lost their home. Homes are so expensive, Yet our country has NO SYSTEM if people lose their homes. Two things can be true at the same time: 1-Yes It was a devastating weather event. As well as: 2 -Yes The city did UTTERLY FAIL to prepare their systems. Fire is the #1 threat so It makes no sense how Los Angeles didn't utilize their resources in a better way to prepare them to deal with fires.. The city has to prepare for stuff like this. I Hope we will see them build extensive water pumping systems from the ocean. They should Install water spraying systems onto the individual houses. They could install remote controlled valves so they could control the water pressure. They need to build systems that redirect & collect any rain water that they receive, rather than dumping it back out into the ocean. We need to adapt our systems so they work cohesively with our ecosystem. We should build Desalination plants & We definitely should bring the Beaver's back. Honestly, how are people supposed to recover from a Disaster such as this? We are seeing insurance companies fail us, we are seeing our government fail us. Most people are struggling to afford basic living. Our country is completely unable to handle this kind of stuff. Our country is failing these people. How does our country expect people to rebuild a second house when affording the first house was already a life long achievement.. How can our country keep functioning like this? Our country is in complete denial about the impacts of these disasters. How will our systems continue to function? We have to adapt. We have to.

[@freddiecarr7602]

Yes, Sal mentioned that LA Fire could have brought up the fire boats from San Pedro, dropped anchor, ran a few lines to shore to as many fire engine pumper trucks to relay water and pumped the Ocean dry!

[@smortboi2374]

Wait why is CNBC always interviewing Ms Zoloft, homeowner?

[@manuntdforever9760]

lol was thinking the same thing

[@FPSMartin]

Because they are stretching 1 interview into like 5 videos, they dont show the entire interview and every question they asked her in one video. Please tell me you though of that and its not the first time you are hearing this

[@matthewobrien6198]

LA and CA need to take accountability this is not a new issue. We have always dealt with wildfire risk. Newsom had Trump visit in 2018 and nothing was done to prevent fires. It may not be Newsomes fault directly but he has a very large role to play in letting us down

[@majo3488]

Why not build homes out of a better material then wood and paper?

[@hdot89]

They can barely afford the home they live in now smh

[@jehiahmaduro6827]

The irony is there are mass timber products and other wood product available that can withstand heat and fire better than steal now. But of course, most of the homes these areas were built before these products became available 😔kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5alh4GdgtCWptk

[@Hktuah24]

Welp, looks like this will be a Netflix series in the future.

[@joeliber580]

People don't seem to understand that you physically cannot stop large wind-driven wild fires with water. When these insane wind events happen, you cannot put the fires out until they run out of fuel or the wind stops.

[@saulgoodman2018]

And people are not understanding that there were was that it could have be mitigated.

[@a.yashwanth]

But the fish are fine.

[@Zsignal743]

The day that the governor says I can cut down traffic by 50%. That means the governor can just talk about fire talk cause they have no clue.

[@skyak4493]

Hmmm. In San Francisco they have a secondary hydrant system that draws water from the ocean. They learned from the past when the city burned to the ground. This is just one city that IS doing what it takes to protect it’s citizens.

[@JohnnyBravo-sl4fx]

ITS NEVER THE GOVERNMENT, IT ALWAYS THE PEOPLE... 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@privat6558]

Simple solution: Build homes which can withstand a fire and not a wooden box :D

[@jehiahmaduro6827]

The irony is there are mass timber products and other wood product available that can withstand heat and fire better than steal now. But of course, most of the homes these areas were built before these products became available 😔kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5alh4GdgtCWptk

[@johnl5316]

This is a BS video defending the people in power in LA and Ca

[@linusmlgtips2123]

You can't stop physics. The amount of water wouldn't have made a difference , let alone in the criticism. Facts don't care about your feelings.

[@tyrantcodex002]

@@linusmlgtips2123yet this video is missing some more facts.

[@almac2534]

​@@linusmlgtips2123 as a former firefighter I can assure the amount of water absolutely makes the biggest difference. How do you think we kept the fire under control before Gavin? These winds are a yearly occurrence.

[@linusmlgtips2123]

​@@almac2534Oh, you were dropping water from the air with 100 mph winds? You were trying to pull water from hydrants while hundreds of other firefighters across the city at the same time?

[@almac2534]

@@linusmlgtips2123 your line of questioning exposes your lack of understanding on the topic. The amount of water is what is pressurizing the fire hydrants and the fire hydrants across the city are not all connected to the same water lines. If you had the slightest idea on the vast size of Los Angeles and it's mountain terrain, it would be illogical to assume they all did.

[@maman89]

American hubris is truly next level. You don't simply "put out" wildfire. Best case if you can contain it. Realisticly its gonna burn until there's no fuel left. Extreme weather events like wildfires is not new, whats new is looking into a nation water system like its gonna solve drought and fires.

[@Starship007]

California offers so many public access to beaches. DRY SALTWATER FIRE HYDRANTS could be backups to pressurized freshwater fire hydrants. DRY hydrants easily installed and maintained. Easy pull up for fire tankers using public parking already existing.

[@TomLoveday-y7y]

The California Coastal Commission makes that impossible. They will hopeful be dismantled soon, a bill is being worked on in congress to do that.

[@News2020-b4u]

Water was not the problem. The issue was the lack of fire preventions. We can't fight major fire.

[@Stallion_1044]

It's never the woke elites who are responsible. It's the people. That's what the media always tells you

[@hdot89]

@@Stallion_1044it is the woke elites especially giving cutting the budget on necessities to just give more money to the Police smh

[@freddierankin2926]

Mother Nature Wins vs Mankind ..

[@johnl5316]

All of these issues were KNOW long, long ago. BUT, progressives dreams were more important to the politicians

[@steveevans7805]

conservatives want you to rake the forests.....

[@Brafie37]

Keeping brush and other burnable materials clear is what they're talking about and absolutely helps keep things from catching fire in the first place. ​@@steveevans7805

[@almac2534]

@@steveevans7805 which many countries do and has been proven affective... You don't even need much man power, you can literally use goats.

[@almac2534]

@@steveevans7805 which many countries already do effectively

[@kevinbernard2729]

@@almac2534 really, which countries raking the size of California forests?

[@tyrantcodex002]

Again this video is missing facts how the mayor was notified about a potential fire from the winds yet she ignored all that and left the state.

[@maxyboy9648]

What difference would that have made? Enlighten us please

[@almac2534]

@@maxyboy9648 drastically less damage. A city that didn't burn to the ground. Can't believe you don't no the benefits of preparing for a fire. That's like saying what difference does water make to a fire.

[@robf8349]

The fires didn't even start in the city they were in unincorporated LA county areas.

[@micahwillis7655]

California should have the best long-term plan when it comes to wildfires, but they got exposed for incompetence. Rain or no rain, it's a every year problem. Step your maintenance game on those fire hydrants. Leadership in the state failed the citizens.

[@KneeJerkReactor]

The problem is that with fires like this? Water can act as an ACCELERANT to the fires itself. Truth of the matter is, Water (or H2O) has an OXYGEN atom. Oxygen can worsen fires (or air for that matter). These water hydrants should contain SOLUTIONS that can ACTUALLY put out fires. Not worsen it. With small fires, water can be ok. But not with this one.

[@45bombom]

All that water in the Pacific Ocean and they keep trying to get water from a drying hole! It doesn’t make sense.

[@marcusbrown188]

15:15 NIMBYs will oppose this. California is not allowed to have solutions to artificially inflate home prices

[@Fellowtellurian]

Properties on the edge should have sprinkler systems to keep the landscape hydrated if there has not been rain in a few months.

[@studiomanhud8945]

The problem is that people don't understand a lot of states are hurting for water, watch the videos on how states are running low on water plus Cali is sharing water with AZ. One state that is running low. States are sharing water is the big thing here.

[@timothylavender191]

Why does the state have runoffs!????

[@westrim]

That's irrelevant to the fires, there's plenty of water in the state at the moment.

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[@tombeegeeeye5765]

No city water system is designed to fight a fire like this. Can we be serious. No city designed its water system to fight the once in a 100 years or even 50 year fire. A fire over several blocks would strain most systems let alone several miles.

[@urbanstrencan]

This is big problem in infrastructure

A state that has fires yearly. Maybe clear the forest for over a mile radius from all urban areas so fires don't just walk into urban areas. The crazy taxes should be doing something useful.

[@adamw6484]

you need to make ring pipe , like in an air pressure pipe, a ring architecture of the piping leads to less pressure losses, not single strains

[@Harrington2323]

What I think wasn´t properly descriped here is that when you have three pipes from three water sources to the fire trucks and pumps you can´t raise the pressure indefinetly. You can have billions of gallons of water on one side and no way to get the water where it is needed. You can maybe raise the pressure by 25% or even 50% but that´s it. Another thing is that where´s fire there´s often no electric power (A reason why electric fire trucks are stupid.). That means that there are pump-stations without power that weakens the pressure in the whole system.

[@saulgoodman2018]

They work on a backup generater.

[@F40-c4i]

What happens when you build a mega city where it never rains. How did this happen!?

[@beerman081]

Has anyone pointed out that we have too many people?

[@AndrewBeveridge461]

Ummmm.....the percentage of wildfires that occur in areas with municipal water systems in incredibly small.

[@caesars7hills892]

Can unmanned drones have water or other fire suppressing products to basically monitor with infrared imaging extinguish early? It also seems like the fuel will continuously accumulate without some kind of breaking system.

[@brandonmullins5865]

if USA had fire trucks that are more practical then just lay flat hoses and need to be run off a fire hydrant then they might of had more luck containing the fire.

[@nvention20]

every LA home could have inline 1 or more barrels for water catchment , just for the inevitable fires

[@bobsthea]

if U.S. really like their tax cuts and almost a trillion dollars military spending, how they could afford to have advance infrastructure, good educations and universal healthcare, common sense right ??

[@caesars7hills892]

Was there a site in the Palisades with no damage that utilized private firefighters?

[@cameron00148]

Nah - I'm still giving those Trifilin' Insurance companies the side eye 😑🤨

[@bulldogfightingforfreedom]

Thank you, emperor Newsom.

[@nolonger9112]

In our view even with full run water system they will not stop the fire in that env anyway. Except they have something to store enough water to flood entire area while living in dessert.

[@saulgoodman2018]

It would have been mitigated.

[@brandonmullins5865]

build your homes cheap why else would they burn down so fast like they did. had nothing to do with water if homes are so cheaply built

[@Chekers400]

We knew about this though not preparing for something is what we are arguing being the issue

[@smortboi2374]

Legendary home page pull

[@egeneauditor7380]

How if nothing will go out from your water hydrants.

[@caesars7hills892]

Also, couldn't you shunt water supplies from burnt areas or the Hollywood area with shut off valves to keep water pressure in the area that is needed?

[@rodericksumaway5441]

WORSHIP JEHOVAH GOD FAther of Jesus D END is the best of Jesus D END is very neAr

[@denisristic7602]

CNBC bending the knee to the Resnicks.

[@nicholasselembo3426]

Demand outdid supply of water available

[@robbie4234]

Why not just hook up the Fire hydrant up to the ocean then you would have trillion of gallons of water to fight fire's...🤔

[@JustAnAverageCatapillar]

go invent something like this, you will be a billionare

[@almac2534]

@@robbie4234 salt water destroys vegetation and poisons the ground. You may be able to stop the fire but the land will become a wasteland after.

[@n21010]

This is what the video said SF did

[@robbie4234]

@@n21010 I said this before watching all the video and I seen that SF already have done it

[@almac2534]

@@robbie4234 because salt water destroys vegetation and promotes corrosion

[@Arcticwhir]

environmentalists, regulation, bureaucracy

[@thechief9209]

"what really happened " those in power screwed up ,that's what happened!!

[@rodgodx345]

Well in hurricane strong winds weather definitely not the hydrant will run dry ur gonna need a bigger crew like probably the whole damn United States!

[@urbanstrencan]

Great explainer video, keep up with great work 👍

[@AndyFahey]

Housing crisis. It's difficult to feel sorry for multi-multi millionaires. Many of these people have investment and holiday homes both in CA and elsewhere.

[@almac2534]

Here is a wild idea, stop hiring people based on who they date and hire them based on skills

[@ODGR01]

Can California?

[@jimmyb.perezlopez3676]

si hubiera un desague como las vegas

[@harveypost7799]

Much cheaper homes r a thing of the past..movie tickets going up.

[@keylanph]

One time my car ran out of gas. It was definitely the car’s fault because it should have used less gas to get me where I needed to go. I had zero responsibility to make sure that I did my job of filling the car up and making sure I had enough gas to get where I was going. I have had to fill my car with gas at least once a year during a certain time of year but I thought that this year I would just not fill it up.

[@Tokamak3.1415]

CNBC can't say the smelt protection didn't alter water supply in SoCal. It didn't perhaps alter water pressure, but the Salton Sea could be reflooded if the smelt water was diverted to the south. The state hasn't had any waterway project or reservoir project reach completion in 4+ decades. The Oroville dam failing was the canary. The replacement canary is dead...again. I mean if we had that much excess water in NorCal we could voluntarily cut our consumption from the Colorado and allow neighboring states to have more access. CNBC could do a 1 hour video on water rights in CA.

[@FBAagent]

pacific palisades always pacific palisades. what about altadena? people in PP are rich, they can take care of themselves

[@Elriesel]

'And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. (1 Timothy 1:14) 'And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? (Romans 2:3) 'And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (Acts 17:30) 'Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. (1 Peter 5:7) 'They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. (Isaiah 11:9) 'But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matthew 4:4)

[@XxXenosxX]

Why must the public turn everything into a conspiracy? Get some critical thinking skills….

[@curiou25s]

What really happened: You had a lesbian incompetent Chief of fire department who chose to rather go fly into another country instead of doing her job, while getting paid 750K annually. Plus a incompetent governor NewScam, who you chose yourself. You get what you sow.

[@FrankGallagherr]

Who else wants to see Newsom resign immediately, gone for good, recalled, never seen again, investigated, prosecuted and imprisoned.

[@hdot89]

I’ve seen enough, give another 100 Million to the Police immediately!!! 😤

[@td2926]

I find it incredibly disingenuous that they protected those billionaires who actually own a large percentage of state water to feed their companies and farms, even the guy mentioned that during drought agriculture consumes more water.

[@aaf6133]

Hmmm, I'm just baffled...If California only had an endless supply of water to draw from in emergencies with pumps going into tanks...Wish there was an Ocean nearby! Sheesh, what am I thinking, that's just crazy

[@Grant918Tulsa]

Where are the water towers?

[@AndrewBeveridge461]

Water towers may look big but they're not primarily for storing large amounts of water from a supply side of things. That's what reservoirs are for (or aquifers, if you are using groundwater pumps). Towers are for creating and maintaining pressure in a system. Pump water up into the tower (which are usually built at high elevation relative to the area they serve, if possible), and gravity creates pressure to push water through the system. Think of it as a way to run a pump for a while periodically, but have pressure all the time. In a private residential well you would have a pressure tank for this instead. Some water in a tank, with some air in there too that you compress to push the water through the pipes in the house. In a municipal sized system that would be impractical since it is extremely difficult to build and maintain a pressure vessel of that size. You would constantly chase air leaks, and the whole thing would store an insane amount of energy in the form of compressed air. Not to mention massive variability in pressure as temperatures change. So you just use gravity instead. No reason you couldn't do that at a house or building. In fact in many places you do have rooftop water tanks for exactly that reason.

[@Stallion_1044]

​@@AndrewBeveridge461It's never the woke elites who are responsible. It's the people. That's what the media always tells you

[@eugenehayden3571]

She had 3 houses and said I’m a normal person. Normal people can’t afford a monthly rent for a room in California, buying one house this is a life event

[@osctec]

Her Family had 3 houses, her, her parents and her son, this is a normal person. She didn't own 3 properties.

[@WalterWhite84762]

Trump wouldn’t have handle the fire any better than Gavin Newson. Stay woke and vote blue

[@saulgoodman2018]

They did redirect water to protect the fish. They even went to court over that. People that are saying they did not redirect water, are lying and are gaslighting people.

[@hdot89]

The redirection due to the reservoir being down to repair?

[@saulgoodman2018]

@ They redirected it years before that. That should have been done in a couple days. It was only a small tear in the cover.

[@wilbur1884]

ITS CALLED FORESTRY SERIOUSLY RECYCLING DRIED WOOD MAKE MULCH TO GO INTO YOUR GARDEN. FORESTRY MANAGEMENT

[@adrianchin2970]

US new president didn't believe in any climate change and if continue to ignore climate change and tackle this problem, US in coming years will face worst catastrophic worse wild fires, drought, flooding and more hurricane happening in US.😢😢😢

[@boby115]

I noticed there’s a lot of experts on this subject and their solutions have one thing in common ($$$$).

[@timothylavender191]

Not when you need reservoirs, instead you waste funds on a train and charge stations, and dei elected officials!!!

[@hdot89]

Reservoir upgrades and maintenance cost was implemented into needing more reservoirs smh

[@jocosus3]

2:50 This should be the start of this video. The interview with the homeowner added no valuable information whatsoever. WSJ's video on the 2025 SoCal Firemageddon was much more succinct and helpful | #DoBetterCnbc kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqW6nGh3rbmcpbssi=AlisJouKdZds-aV_