It’s Not Just You. Everyone Hates Dating Apps Now.

[@Fads]

Thanks for watching! This is edited from a livestream I did (I do em every Friday at 7.15 est). 

I wanted to add some more context to clarify a couple of things: - Some people have great experiences on the apps and tbf more power to you if you’re one of them! -I don’t necessarily think using algorithmic ‘hacks’ to make your profile more visible is necessarily makes you a bad person. The systems of these apps almost mandates that the users respond in that way, so I don’t blame anyone for doing that. - (This was briefly mentioned in the full stream) LGBT and more niche dating apps like Feeld have actually been doing quite well lately! I think this is largely because they cater to underserved communities and are typically more exhaustive in the criteria users can view. They’re obviously still not perfect tho.

[@danmthemannotavailable]

Are these streams on KZbin or Patreon? I have the 'all bell' thing on for your channel, since its you're my favorite YTber of all time, and I don't get notifications unless it's video posts. :( Regardless, thanks for your insight and bringing this topic to us! Love your vid, love you man, and keep it up! 🙂

[@lultopkek]

as a millenial i was subscribed a view years ago first i paid 9 / month then 11/ month then i left. now the charge the same per week. i did not subscribe.

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

Lesbian sites aren't doing quite so well...

[@KenNeumeister]

You do good work, I enjoy your content.

[@kos2919]

lol the one who have great experience are on the small bracket close to the top.

[@Galimeer5]

Hearing that dating app corporations are suffering in the stock market is one of the rare news stories I hear that genuinely makes me happy

[@user-gh8sg7oc9r]

🙂

[@jcransome5616]

That’s not gonna help dating what was at all now it’s just gonna be a bunch of men harassing women at the mall and others public spaces

[@GMann-b5y]

​@@jcransome5616 I feel like that was already happening.

[@___solar___]

@@jcransome5616Then what’s your proposed solution? I’m 22, in college, and I don’t have time to spend courting and trying to find a good woman to date so I tried the apps, and absolutely was disappointed in my experience. I even had a woman send unsolicited sexts to me. The problem is that looks only matter on these apps. You can flaunt your achievements but the bottom line is people aren’t being pushed to talk to one another and have fun conversations. It’s mainly the woman saying literally one word “hey” and the man trying to come up with some cheesy pick up line or to say something interesting or funny to win her over. And I don’t want to even get to the gender ratio. Thinking about several hundred other men trying to compete for the woman I just met on an app is diabolical at best, and depressing at worst.

[@___solar___]

@@jcransome5616Then what’s your proposed solution?

[@caesar7734]

Every time a match is made a dating app loses two customers

[@ryancxe]

And will disproportionally lower the already small pool of women

[@elysium8131]

that's a cope. a match is made and the customers stay because these apps short circuit the brains of the women who can get any men they want and the men who can get any women their want while the men who don't get matches keep feeding the beast.

[@MrDasfried]

​@@ryancxe🤮🤮🤮 bro stop beeing disgusting

[@karkador]

@ryancxe isnt it a good thing if the "women supply" goes down? let the ladies date lmao

[@nicodemous52]

That's very optimistic. Half these fools be trifling be cheaters.

[@lainy9130]

in my experience talking to people on dating apps feels very shallow. it’s discouraging because as much as I dislike dating apps, meeting people organically feels more and more difficult

[@slashinatorz1961]

Especially since theres less & less places to comfortably meet people. How are we supposed to make friends while shopping at chain stores? People dont want me talking to them & I wouldnt want some stranger interrupting me while I'm shopping

[@theinternetbutler]

For sure. But to stay in profit, their business model is to really be that you never find a long term relationship.

[@handlebar4520]

we sure do live in a society, eh?

[@ОксанаЧернохвостенко]

it's hard to pretend you're interested in a person as a person if what you're looking for is a hookup. Though my brother in law met his wife on tinder and they're doing just fine

[@onthedre]

If it feels shallow then go on a date with them..????????

[@mementovivere2]

Why can't a non-profit make an app that is actually meant to be deleted? Not everything in this world needs to be run by for-profit companies, you know.

[@hsk2978]

this app already exists. It’s called “real world” or “local community” or “my friend knows someone…”. Not every problem needs hi-tech solution.

[@aieverythingsfine]

how the feck do you pay your mortgage on nothing?

[@kajamatousek247]

@@hsk2978 alright grandpa, what local community ? That shit practically doesn't exist anymore

[@oq1106]

@@hsk2978 but maybe there is a half-way compromise. The problem with these apps is that they need to be moderated and they need some form of hosting. There can be ways for the community to self-moderate but I'm not sure how you could cut all cost of the service to a point where no third party with expenses needs to be in the middle here and they are just plain vulnerable to becoming a pimp aka "for profit". And unfortunately the interests of the users (real human interaction and to be off it asap) are in this case fundamentally mismatched with the interests of a for profit owner (gamification and trapping people).

[@tsardean9192]

oq1106 said it right. Unfortunately, while it wouldn't be too hard for some programmer to make the dating app, dating apps take A LOT of moderation and constant upkeep to prevent scammers/abusers/anyone who violates guidelines. Without this upkeep it would quickly become unusable. That isn't to say a nonprofit couldn't ever do this, it would just be hard to pull off.

[@_Axel_G_]

Another thing to be noticed is the total lack of politeness in dating apps compared to real life conversations: when you're in a dating app you're no more a person but just a talking photo, the slightest imperfection instantly transforms you in something to be discarded without explanations needed. And this happens in the occasions where you're actually able to start a conversation, which as we all know, are ever more rare

[@9395gb]

I'm a bit surprised people engage in any poor conduct on dating apps. You never know if you're going to run into that person again. This is why I don't mess with those apps.

[@thearch1tect249]

Everything in life has turned into one big subscription. Everything sits behind a pay wall! No ticky....No laundry

[@CyrilSneer123]

I've never paid for a dating app. If you can't get matches whilst using the free version then paying a dating company to 'boost your profile' is not going to help. It could be your photograph or profile sucks (this is common) or not knowing what women look for (no topless gym pics, no stupid comedy photos with you wearing a silly hat etc).

[@temich1985]

What do you expect from the late stage capitalism

[@nickmattio3397]

“No Ticky…No Laundry.”-The Departed

[@Elemblue2]

I refuse to participate and its the right thing to do every single time.

[@raze2012_]

​@@CyrilSneer123you can just say that I'm ugly and no one wants to date nerds. It's okay, I've endured it for 20 years now. But AS a nerd, there is also a technological incentive to not pick optimal matches as well. So it's a bit of A and B. That's why even matched people are inconsistent at hitting it off.

[@ethanodell8044]

Love how everybody just said “Okay, screw this” and just stopped using dating apps at the same time

[@gm9460]

Not enough people have stopped - yet

[@quintboredom]

It's not like that at all hahaha, it just happens over time until people start to realize and by the time someone runs some statistics cuz it's very noticeable the numbers look high and like they all decided to do so at the same time

[@JewTube001]

not at the same time.

[@kos2919]

@@quintboredom Someone actually made a video called "Hoemath" and it's quite an eye opening about the dating scene in online dating sphere. I believe a lot of people (mostly men) just stop using dating apps when they realize they're screwed already.

[@jelaninoel]

Problem is they’re not just checking out of apps. They just stopped trying to date period

[@jth_printed_designs]

I don't understand why the apps chose to monetize their users directly, when they could simply sell ads. Sell ads for restaurants/coffee shops where you can take dates, sell ads for movies, sell ads for date locations (could even go after local businesses like arcades, mini golf, go karts).

[@WCCXtra]

Right? Maybe you could even "Like" some of these places and have them saved, using them as a small part of your match criteria.

[@JCJW101]

This is the PERFECT way to monetise the apps!

[@VonGoldfinger]

One word: SHAREHOLDERS

[@jth_printed_designs]

@@VonGoldfinger They’d end up with better long term stock prices if the apps worked. They intentionally neutered their own app so that the only way it works is if you pay. The public would sooner delete the apps and not use them than pay to not get effed over by the developers. There are more people turning 18 every day, you don’t need to keep everyone on the app to make money. Match them with people that will actually be successful and then both of those people will recommend the dating app to their friends. All the while these people are seeing ads and patronizing the businesses that are advertising. Trying to monetize men (because women don’t pay for dating apps) would be a super short term strategy, which is not good for shareHOLDers.

[@Altajp]

I think BREEZE does something like this. I'm no longer on the app, but i had the best dates on there and found my current boyfriend.

[@marcusmoonstein242]

What nobody talks about is the psychological effect of option overload. Psychologists have tested this and found that when people have too many options to choose from they take longer to make a decision, are more likely to not make a decision, and are less satisfied with the decision they made when they do make one. Paradoxically, you're more likely to find a match when you only have a dozen options to choose between than if you have a thousand. In the old days someone might only date a handful of people before choosing one to marry. Today it's not uncommon to hear of people going on multiple dates per week.

[@portman8909]

Which is why many young men are still virgins and alone suicide rates up too because the isolation is too much and not healthy.

[@9395gb]

The problem also is that these aren't "real options." Your "options" have their own options as well. They may not even pick you if you pick them. Dating apps are notorious for having this problem. I had a friend who could get a ton of dates. Like endlessly and even a 2nd or 3rd date, but what they said was that their dates also had multiple options. So you may have one or two people at the top of your lists, but you may not be at the top of their lists.

[@pinkneko13]

I wouldn't reference the "good old days" when it comes to marrying specifically. We've bee basically brainwashed to believe that a marriage is a happy ending but that was rarely the case. Remember the boomer joke "I hate my wife/husband". People were indeed force to pick from what they had and that was rarely a good choice.

[@GrunkleSpam]

The golden age of dating sites helping people make connections is long gone. If you want to try to meet people, you're better off physically going out to places and becoming a regular at places like bars, clubs, hobby groups, book clubs, etc. Dating apps don't want you to meet your match because you using it forever gets the company more money and more data to sell.

[@rickysampson8759]

But even if you go to those places you still won’t find anybody. Plenty of videos of women recording men at dating events just to mock them. Fact is all women are searching for 10% of men. And if you aren’t in that 10% you better get your passport

[@thedude4840]

Kinda figures I finally work up the courage to start dating after some weight loss and getting some confidence and the entire thing goes downhill. To me the appeal was that we were going to be on the same page, no cold approaching no awkward moments were here to date let’s date. Now the only time I get likes or matches it’s OF content creators.

[@HK47_115]

For every guy like you out there giving this as advice, I wish you guys would also get through your thick ass skulls that we humans nowadays live in big fucking cities where stuff like this is not in our local area. Because I'll tell you right now, if any of the fucking things you listed were in my area within walking distance or a quick bus ride, no one would be fucking complaining. Not a goddamn person in our generation would be complaining if any of these things were fucking available in our areas! And don't even get me started on how this generation can't even freaking go out to fucking eat cuz you're so broke. Corporations are literally killing us, but guys like you just want to keep regurgitating this advice over and over and over and over and over and over and over again as if these places are going to magically appear out of nowhere for us to go to! If society wants to fix this problem and find a solution, then tackle the real problem instead of coming up with scapegoats regurgitating the same solution that didn't work before. Or, do the exact same mother fucking thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Then wonder why everybody's calling you insane. And I'm sorry for renting at you my dude, I really am. But I fucking sick and tired of hearing and reading people say this shit as if it's going to magically fix everything! If this was actually an option for people, they wouldn't be complaining in the first place!!! And just to be clear it's not just a man, it's the women too. They can go out to meet somebody knew when they're fucking broke, have to pay bills, and have to work all day to make sure they're not broke so they can pay the bills. Hell, I'm literally just describing my fucking mother. And my grandmother. And my aunt. And every female cousin I have. And my sisters.

[@Jbscddnz]

Clubs - good practice or for the 5% chance of a hookup. you are unlikley to get a meaninfgul connection. or every 5 nights out, i might end up with 1 date.

[@murderman8578]

Those places don't exist

[@F2004FW]

Male to female ratio on tinder is an estimated 16-1 and bumble is not much better at 13-1 with the rest around the same or worse. Those ratios along with women only swiping right on average 10% of the time, you'd have to enjoy being miserable to even use them at this point. Just like gambling, you will never beat the odds. The player will always lose and the house will always profit.

[@GuthixGriffin]

source: trust me bro

[@kingcrimson3073]

@@GuthixGriffin just get on a dating app as average male and you'll see it for yourself. there's also plenty of vidoes on youtube showing this

[@seamon9732]

@@GuthixGriffin It's even worse swiping wise. The numbers are around 5% for women and when asked will say they find 80% of men unattractive.

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

​@@GuthixGriffin have you never heard of this wonderful thing called a "search engine" before?

[@konstantinriumin2657]

Well half or 3/4s of those men are brainless dickpick senders, so it's not hard to get some matches

[@Exo-riah]

No background music, just informed speaking with a nice voice to listen to. Perfect

[@dsds3968]

Yes. So many videos sound like a jazz band is rehearsing next door.

[@jakevendrotti1496]

​@@dsds3968hahaha well said

[@TheMoreTheMary_]

There is background music though, just well edited ig

[@Danishmastery]

@@dsds3968brilliant 😂😂

[@Parso_YT]

My big thing for meeting people the old fashioned way has got to be the lack of third spaces honestly, it feels like in normal day to day guys are all too scared to approach because they don’t want to be rejected when I think most guys would say yes to most girls, while girls are too scared to approach for a multitude of reasons, one being the whole concept of “imasculating” a man by approaching and so we’re left with this awkward tug of war/equilibrium where nothing is happening. Third spaces, places people would go to socialise would maybe improve these odds, I’d like to think third spaces would act in a similar way going to like a university society social dinner or something where it’s very accepted to start talking to people you don’t know, only because everyone else is only there to meet more people.

[@Bleilock1]

Women couldnt care less about emasculating men by approaching them They are all just afriad of grape and thats why they dont approach

[@HeavyMetalNerd]

The thing is... I encountered so much shit there. Women who wanted to test me, played with my feelings just for fun, kept me hanging on forever, wanted money, wanted to marry me for a German citizenship, wanted me as a chauffeur, asked me at least 7 or 8 times for a date only to cancel it a day before it was supposed to happen and so on. In 6 years I had like 4 dates with 3 women and 2 of them were scammers like I mentioned before. I was just so burned out and tired of it... The saddest part was that those women even seemed to have similar interests to me like being a metalhead, playing musical instruments, watching Star Trek, playing videogames and so on. Most of them just seemed like cool rocker/metalheads/goths/punks and/or nerds. So I was already searching for people compatible to me. Not just for looks. I know I'd need more than that for a stable relationship. Still didn't work out. Fuck that bullshit. I don't want it anymore.

[@Mendogology]

I like how you repeated two times that you like playing videogames :D

[@HeavyMetalNerd]

@@Mendogology 😂😂😂 Edited that one.

[@unocualqu1era]

My theory is that dating apps tend to attract the worst people in the dating pool. This has two main effects: 1) You're more likely to meet mentally ill people, or just plain evil. 2) The people you meet will be extremely cautious because they won't trust you either.

[@fictionaddiction4706]

Okay. But do tell us how old you actually are, and if your appearance is decent and how old were the women you were choosing and how attractive were they. I mean so many 50 y/o men try to date 23 y/o's then they come and whine about women. And I did feel bad before knowing this info. So I ain't falling for that one again. Date women in your age group, don't choose a 10 when you are not, and you might be good to go.

[@HeavyMetalNerd]

@@fictionaddiction4706 I am 26 and was after women in their 20s to early 30s, so mostly around my age. I started online dating shortly before my 20th birthday and quit this year in February. I am a bit chubby with long blonde hair, mustache and wear mostly metal clothing like band shirts, black/blue jeans and a battle vest or blue denim jacket. After my attenpt to study law failed, I was in a vocational training for 3 years and now work a full time job. I still live with my parents but I wanna change that until next year. I have a small group of friends, so I am not an entirely lonely outcast. My hobbies are mostly heavy metal stuff like going to concerts, collecting vinyl/tapes/CDs/magazines/etc., playing video games and watching cartoons or other stuff.

[@rutgerhauser2377]

Hinge: "designed to be deleted" Also Hinge: Yeah... no.

[@hallucinatedletter]

Love the calm style of inspecting current topics in your videos. Happy to have found this channel. Looking forward to your next post. Take care @Fads

[@LetsGoChaseThatTrain]

And no annoying AI-generated voiceover.

[@stefanpeters5971]

if you are on a dating side as a man you can easily see how black pillers see the world. Even thou most people agree, that we value the personality of our significant other most, on dating apps are you judged based on your looks, status and vacation pictures. I remember seeing a video from a girl talking about the conversation she had with her girl friend; "why did you swipe 'no' on him you went out with uglier guys" -"yeah but i don't wanna waste my time, besides the guy before was prettier"- As a service dating apps are bad. We are as a collective the service but we also do our selves a disservice.

[@joefer5360]

Swiping relationships, time wasted, already achieved one has.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

Surely, seeing female ♀ humans for what they are is a good thing? Better learn that now, than decades after getting married.

[@freeman8857]

How to get any matches on dating apps as a male? Tall, Wealthy, Handsome (in that order). How to get any matches on dating apps as a female? open an account ( no pfp or bio even required)

[@saramelle]

​@@freeman8857 Maybe but the matches are pure trash lol. We have to stop thinking women have it easier. It is not true. A lot of men on these apps do not want to have something serious and if they say they do a lot of them are really strange trying to get you to go to their house, do weird things or are VERY obviously lying about what they want. If a lot of men are single it definitely of their own doing because a lot of women say à lot of guys play in their face when they eant something serious. The matter of the fact is a lot of women are not trying to go for the super model guy who's rich

[@Abdiel_BZ]

Jesus Christ loves you!

[@RobTFilms]

If someone doesn't have good chat on an app and it feels like I have to put all the effort in, I just unmatch. A lot of people seemingly use dating apps purely for validation and I really don't understand the point of that- if that's all you want then you need to seriously rethink your world view tbh.

[@kunknown2340]

Agreed, matched with a chick that i thought was a pretty good match. Problem was she was super dry and boring asf to talk to and when i asked if she was shy, she immediately unmatched me. Just gonna start unmatching the moment the convo gets dull.

[@CyrilSneer123]

@@kunknown2340 So you're going to do the exact same thing you just complained about.

[@kunknown2340]

@@CyrilSneer123 no idea how its the same at all. If the convo is boring, then its obvious the person isn't interested and is just wasting time. Why would i waste my time to entertain someone who isn't showing interest?

[@sor3999]

Paywalling the apps would remove a lot of these people, but people themselves complain about the lack of commitment from people on these apps, but they themselves aren't serious enough to pay for it. Most dating apps have to make it freemium or else the dating pool will dwindle, but perhaps that's a good thing.

[@Bozebo]

Yeah many months wasted particularly when someone's actively moving faster and saying to arrange a date but just wasting your time and not actually going to agree to it or show up or make up constant excuses but still chat like they're elevating the connection more xD

[@orjanb4011]

Honestly and earnestly, dating apps and social media operating as private, for-profit entities has been just plain horrible.

[@pololikikuju]

Dating apps, hook up culture, social media were invented to destroy relationships, marriages and dating. It is to keep us single and selfish. By the time we get to 60s we look in the mirror old and alone and realize we will likely die off alone in our homes (maybe someone will find the body after a few weeks or months)?? No kids, no partner, it is scary... All this garbage culture is to keep us alone and easily controlled and in financial hardship as one single income is no longer enough. This was all by design... few families, children and a poorer and degraded citizen base.

[@olizalzeortolan8322]

I got two dating apps ads before this video 💀

[@StochasticUniverse]

I got ads for some kind of gun holster and an AI art platform, lol. Only on KZbin would those things go together, methinks.

[@RezDezEh]

They know, they’re scrambling to get customers but it’s over for them.

[@isaiahebert1475]

I really hope the FTC cracks down on dating apps and their exploitation of people. The insane fees are disgusting and deviously put in to make your experience abysmal. A non-profit app would be awesome in America. I've been single for 4 years now. Ive been on bumble and hinge for about 2 months and i haven't matched yet. I think filling out your profile with more information is actually worse because it gives more reasons for someone to reject you. Ive filtered out a lot of people due to my core values and am not met with many people left over. Ive only talked to 2 people in 2 months and neither people aligned with my values. This shit is too hard and too expensive. I used to be happy being single but since i got these apps, ive only felt more sad about my situation. Shit sucks 🙄

[@lennylink8772]

Your appearance matters.

[@jeffreychandler8418]

I'm 90% sure the more detail you put on your profile, not only does it give people more reasons to reject, but I'm pretty sure the app itself algorithmically buries you

[@StochasticUniverse]

Happiness being single naturally fluctuates up and down over time, but in general, it's hard to be happy indefinitely when your life lacks the single biggest source of meaning for humans, historically (family). As you get older, your parents die and other connections wane, due to death or separation of time and distance. Most people wind up with their immediate family as their primary close contacts by the time they're in their golden years. The End is a tough time in life to go it alone, too.

[@sullathehutt7720]

​@@StochasticUniverse That's why God gave us Istishad. ☝️🔥 Go out like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino or somethin

[@isaiahebert1475]

@@lennylink8772 I'm a photographer and my profile appearance absolutely slaps 😂 although I do feel awkward when I'm not behind the camera. Something I'm trying to work on. I've never been photogenic and I rarely ever take selfies

[@Nihad-pm6gr]

Social media and apps killed the soul of humanity.

[@KennethFabritius]

No, "liberating" women did.

[@Poetry4Peace]

@@KennethFabritius LOLL

[@fedyx1544]

@@Poetry4Peace Nothing more classic than incels crying about the "good old days" when supposedly they'd have gotten a wife easily. Lmao, they would 100% end up being single even if girlfriends were government mandated

[@jonathann5205]

💯

[@AM-mp7ug]

​@@fedyx1544 Women are literally complaining that they're unable to find "economically attractive" men bcoz they're outearning men in the workplace. What exactly are men supposed to do in this situation?

[@Malignant88]

Congrats to all the men finally seeing the scam.

[@theinternetbutler]

Its a scam for all around

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

And not the women?

[@joefer5360]

@@theinternetbutler Scam for men and a Hunger Games scenario for women.

[@StochasticUniverse]

@@theinternetbutler That's kind of like saying "war is bad for everyone". I mean, yeah, maybe in some loose sense...but it's a helluva lot worse for the country getting invaded than for the one doing the invading. :P They're not the same, haha.

[@theinternetbutler]

@@StochasticUniverse nah it's just a scam for everyone and using the war analogy is just so far removed. Girls are basically the money earner and there will always be a better guy than you're speaking to now. The spiral continues

[@vybinvincent]

Dating apps are so bad that I’d rather get rejected doing a cold approach 100 times than swiping a 100 times and finding nobody

[@kiuk_kiks]

Ditto

[@jcransome5616]

You’re gonna get a harassment charge before you reach 10 their buddy you better start realizing the gift that is dating apps

[@blackveganarchist]

@@jcransome5616 You will not get a harassment charge if the people you approach are not related and, most importantly, you are polite and accept "no" as an answer the first time.

[@vybinvincent]

@@jcransome5616 If you've actually tried cold approach, it's basically like a 5% chance of getting a date (for most average guys like me), and no, even if you're ugly, most women will just be polite and turn you down. It's more authentic and genuine, and certain women will feel 100x more flattered and respect you for it because you approached them in person

[@jcransome5616]

@@vybinvincent what a futile waste of time and simping. Wow. You 🤡

[@KhunShawn]

Literally deleted tinder yesterday, I feel the spark just meeting people in person and go from there.

[@OneStarReviewer625]

Same fam

[@Bozebo]

I am out every evening and there's nobody really to meet in person around?

[@pololikikuju]

Dating apps, hook up culture, social media were invented to destroy relationships, marriages and dating. It is to keep us single and selfish. By the time we get to 60s we look in the mirror old and alone and realize we will likely die off alone in our homes (maybe someone will find the body after a few weeks or months)?? No kids, no partner, it is scary... All this garbage culture is to keep us alone and easily controlled and in financial hardship as one single income is no longer enough. This was all by design... few families, children and a poorer and degraded citizen base.

[@matthiasschulz3569]

You mean the tinder app on your phone, not the company, right? That's a pity ...

[@karishajohnson6537]

Dating apps being just as expensive as dating if not more is just crazy. What a scam

[@StochasticUniverse]

5:33 "interestingly enough, men outnumber women 3-to-1, but women report higher rates of negative experiences" That's because you have to HAVE an experience in order to have a negative one. :P Most of the men simply aren't having any experience, good, bad, or indifferent. The amount of work that has to be invested to get any response out of these apps as a man (precisely because of the 3-to-1 ratio) is very well-documented at this point. It's a very common experience for men to invest hundreds of hours looking at the app to maybe get one or two minimal interactions. That's not really a bad experience...it's a non-experience.

[@reverse-grip]

I think this is from a Pew Research study, which asked participants about their experiences overall, Very Negative, Somewhat Negative, Somewhat Positive, or Very Positive. The question was not about individual date experiences. So naturally would include people who haven't found dates. Perhaps men who aren't getting dates still consider the "non-experience" to be having a Somewhat Positive time. The ratios were 57% vs 48%. Something that is important to consider is the study also included LGBT daters and their apps among the Male vs Female numbers, which could have skewed the data if for example LGBT men were having a much better time than straight men. The same study found that LGBT people had a better time overall, 61% vs 53%. Unfortunately there's no breakdown of the data comparing straight men to straight women specifically.

[@rejectwokeness1314]

Women play the game on easy or God mode and yet they still complain more 🤦 cos they're never satisfied even if they find a guy BETTER than them, now it's about finding the BEST

[@fordakacar]

@@rejectwokeness1314 found the incel

[@Zoomydoomy]

You ironically just described a negative experience and parroted it as a "non experience"

[@rejectwokeness1314]

@@fordakacar I'm just stating facts, but apparently facts hurt low T manginas feminist like yourself 🤣🤣🤣

[@Ihavethetouch]

These days I rarely even try to find someone and get more fun out of talking with obvious fakes

[@theinternetbutler]

According to one of my friends, a lot of the profiles are OnlyFans models, drop shippers and course sellers that start off with what looks like authentic conversation, then quickly turns into sales.

[@v.valente]

at this point u already one step from having a relationship with an AI

[@Ihavethetouch]

@@theinternetbutler By my experience, Asian women are always fake. They start by telling they like investing and offer to help you get into it.

[@Ihavethetouch]

@@v.valente Beggars can't be choosers

[@StochasticUniverse]

@@v.valente Honestly, if Match is smart, they'll just invest in AI girlfriend apps and call it a day, haha. It's almost certainly more long-term sustainable than what they're doing with their existing apps, which seem predestined to implode relatively soon.

[@varshai4704]

You’re so interesting to listen to and have a very calm energy. I love it. Hope you have twice the subs soon! You deserve it

[@Tamarocker88]

I hated dating apps over a decade ago and stopped using them entirely. Glad to see people finally smartened up.

[@hairypotter259]

Ultimately we gotta return to talking to people outside of our phones

[@winterwulf1995]

Have you met people lately? They're nuts

[@reedmckinney7426]

Lol see ya when Hell freezes over then

[@KennethFabritius]

The damage has already been done. The current generations are lost. Maybe GenB can be saved if we destroy social media right now.

[@Poetry4Peace]

@@KennethFabritius RIGHT tis tiktok brain rot and even my own addiciton of always using the damn phone when i shud really sleep and focus on me..

[@ultimatewafflegaming1018]

it should have never deviated from that to begin with... but then again when has society ever been good about using things in moderation

[@morbid1.]

women who say "repetitive conversations"... well, that is obvious. If you have like 100 matches it's kinda expected those 100 dudes will ask similar or exactly the same questions.

[@hyperadapted]

right? There are just so many variation and sequences of "hi" and "what do you like to do for fun" possible.

[@AquilaCat]

Conversations start off the same, yes. It only gets boring when the other person stops sharing information about their interests and days go by with just "hi" "hi" "how you doing""doing good. You?" "Good" "hi"... the Conversation goes absolutely nowhere.

[@user-gh8sg7oc9r]

It's almost as if potential matches are designed to stand out by less superficial means, such as values and life experiences shared in the profile section

[@rejectwokeness1314]

They can choose a decent guy out of it but no, the apps allow them to always remain on the streets to find their unicorn

[@gm9460]

@@AquilaCatyou mean like pretty much all women on the apps ?

[@abheekdasgupta7079]

In a country like India where arranged marriages are a thing, people were expecting arranged marriages to drop as the country becomes more westernized. However, recent GenZ data suggests the kids are prefering arranged marriages now because of bad dating experiences. Don't know what's going to happen in the West because the concept of your parents helping you find a partner isn't really a thing there.

[@Ghekko-kw3zz]

I'm in Australia. A friend from Hyderabad, very good looking, wealthy, sportscar, mid 20s- when we met he was determined to never be with another Indian woman. As I predicted a few years later he flew to India, met a few prospects his dad found. A few months later he married one. She's beautiful, smart, devoted to their children & him.

[@TheHanyuuuuu]

You guys have a culture of arranged marriages, your parents know how to do it. If my parents would look for a husband for me it would be just some crusty friend of my dad +15 years older then me, but with a good salary. no thanks.

[@Bozebo]

It used to be a thing here. Now people live multiple hours away from home for work or are stuck at home but their parents control it instead of the new generation being in charge.

[@zs9652]

​@@TheHanyuuuuuThe other issue is that the western countries women would have any man their parents picked out lol.

[@Trazyn_the_Hoarder]

In the West, there's an easy way to find yourself a partner, before resorting to arranged marriages. Is there anything in your life that you're passionate about? Great. Now go out to a place where there's many of your kind. Or join an online space where your lot can meet. Then you don't have to date random people who you have nothing in common with 🤷🏻‍♂️ Otherwise you'll have to go to public events where a lot of different people meet, and try your luck there. Basically... get your butt moving and make yourself available for conversation.

[@Darth_Insidious]

I've only had okayish hookups and shallow relationships from apps. The deeper ones came from people I ran into by chance and met through friends. At this point I only use the apps to think about what I want and what I can provide.

[@portman8909]

Consider yourself lucky. I don't get matches at all and when I do they ignore or quickly stop responding. Wish I was handsome like you....

[@Darth_Insidious]

@@portman8909 I'm not conventionally handsome, I just sometimes appeal to certain groups of people who coincidentally I like. I found my niche, and people who are outside that niche never match with me, and people in that niche still are pretty rare too. I think I averaged about 1-2 actual meetups per year.

[@Satanic-Dan]

@@portman8909most men are so screwed /: I have to run just be white overseas Before it’s too late 😢

[@thepassportog]

Most of the matches I’ve gotten are people running scams, people looking for customers for their financial pyramid schemes, or sugar babies. I won’t spend a dollar on Tinder

[@augustvonmackensen9785]

Old school dating worked quite well* over the millennia, and then someone tried to fix it. Let’s find a solution for a problem that does not exist ! 🙄

[@leam1978]

i wonder which category "tired of dealing with bots" falls under?

[@secretlyaslug2325]

It's not even the aggressive monetization. Or that I and my friends get next to no engagement. It's that easily 50% or greater the profiles I see are obviously copy pasted bots. It's unreal. They do absolutely nothing.

[@IOSARBX]

Fads, Your videos always brighten my day, so I subscribed!

[@Mystic_Paths]

Many dating apps prioritize photos over personality, leading to superficial judgments based on looks. Users often feel frustrated that meaningful connections are overshadowed by surface-level evaluations.

[@saneshko]

Gamification of dating sounds like such a terrible, terrible idea! Of course there are corporate ghouls that just love that 🤦‍♂️

[@Pilligrim-gd3oe]

12:44 Don't worry, my guy. We all are 😂

[@runningcommentary2125]

I want ‘enshittification’ to become a formal academic term that is used in scientific papers.

[@OneStarReviewer625]

It has a wiki page

[@lunarmagpie619]

It already is. Comms papers have been studying the term for a while now.

[@Atombender]

From a male perspective, dating apps are like the lottery. You keep buying tickets but never win because the odds (looks) of winning a date or hookup are overwhelmingly low when you are unattractive (unlucky genes). But even if you are lucky (attractive), your gains will usually be short-lived. Just like you are squandering money from a lottery win, you are also squandering relationships.

[@KennethFabritius]

It's ALMO$T as if the WOMEN are the problem... 🤔

[@HackersSun]

from the girl perspective its equally tough, find anyone to relate to, and they take a LOT of time t to talk to there's a lot of "matches" yes, but I've accepted and talk to every match I gotten and not a single one had anything remotely in common with them :/

[@DameboySP]

​@@HackersSun literally wish I had that problem as a guy, can't hardly ever get a match and when I do, they host after two paragraphs. You have a good problem tbh

[@sierraa.bryant9322]

Why the fuck do you think it's the way you look that's causing you problems? Women swipe right on fuckin everybody

[@Nate45448]

@@HackersSunlol even when it’s handed to you they find a way to complain

[@yordvandamme]

No no don't take it with a grain of salt, I have used almost all those dating apps a bunch and I'm NOT single but you're completely right, because I found my current girlfriend irl, and none of my exes on those big dating apps. Everything you said about them in this video is completely right even though I figured out how to cheat a bunch of the algorithms.

[@william_SMMA]

how to cheat the algorithms? drop the sauce

[@yordvandamme]

@@william_SMMA It's not worth it my friend, it's an endless chase that is gonna leave you unhappy. But if you must, for science (this is for Tinder): first of all if you're tall put it on the top of your bio. Then just use a good one-liner that says a little about you but is also intriguing and mysterious. Make sure your pictures are of good quality and shot by other people! Selfies are a no go. Fish pictures are also a no go. Preferably one just good looking picture, one with a cute animal, one sexy picture, one or two showing off an interesting hobby. The rest is free space but make sure you're the main subject of the picture, don't look too serious but not too goofy either. Fill in all the details besides your bio. Then, and here is the kicker; put men on. Leave it on for a couple days. After you've been on 99+ likes for a couple days, turn it to just women again (if that's what you want ofcourse). Then, BE PICKY. DON'T JUST LIKE EVERYONE. If you look well-groomed, your pictures are at least decent quality and have some interesting hobbies to show off you'll get AT LEAST a couple matches a day guaranteed.

[@dieuwer5370]

The amount of fake profiles (AI generated) on dating apps is enormous.

[@LetsGoChaseThatTrain]

Most have far too many fake profiles, which are almost entirely scammers.

[@ally9553]

The most infuriating part about these apps getting so greedy that they ruin themselves is that they have an endless supply of new users. New young adults are looking for their forever person every year and older married couples get divorced. They don’t even have to create a problem like many other companies do. They would make plenty of money if they just stayed how they were, but they decided short term profit was better and destroyed their reputations.

[@krisramos7453]

Like 50 girls called me ugly so I deleted all the apps and I will never redownload them

[@Davorox1]

Who gave them such confidence to match with you and call you ugly? Tf 🫠

[@ChurlzVA]

Damn man.

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

Why would you out yourself like that 💀

[@cazu2479]

I’m in the same boat as u bruh

[@krisramos7453]

@@ILoveTinfoilHats life goes on

[@NWard1210]

It’s funny you used Hinge as a primary example because that’s where I met my partner - 5 years later, we’re still together so it does work, but the two years of swiping before I met him was draining in every way you mentioned.

[@MCSorry]

Hinge definitely seems like one of the least shallow dating app out there. Many of my friends have met their girlfriend through it. But their business model is still problematic.

[@OrBerkovich-r4l]

Found my wife there too, and it took me a week on that app. It was much longer for her though.

[@Fads]

Congrats on beating the game haha!! Hope you two are doing well

[@taoflo8015]

Keep in mind that it has gotten even worse over the years

[@OrBerkovich-r4l]

@@Fads we are actually. also forgot to mention her brother found his wife on there too. Two of her other siblings also met their spouses on apps.

[@benjaminwlang]

The only thing dating apps has done for me in making my mental health worse.

[@aaronkennedy8506]

Social media is hands down one of the worst modern inventions ever.

[@user-xp8nq5mf9y]

Grinder is great. Not because it does what it does but because people there are hilariously insane.

[@capybrapa]

On grindr, I've once been asked if I'd like to "peel back his toenail and sniff it like a Sharpie". To make matters worse, he initiated the conversation with that message AND he sent me that same message a couple years later. I think that may be his attempt at a pickup line 🤢

[@Dr.Harvey]

And what is great about it?

[@d.n.3652]

I tried it. There wasn’t any girls at all. I’m starting to think there isn’t any

[@Teddy-hp9zy]

So true

[@user-xp8nq5mf9y]

@@Dr.Harvey you got me there.

[@dashman2062]

I hate dating apps - I never got a meaningful connection with someone out of one, but idk how to meet people. I'm getting really worried.

[@jillythefoo]

I've been joining clubs through the Meet Up app. It tends to be more fun than traditional dating.

[@klipk7296]

I got to random hiking meetups with this app... yeah... most people treat them as dating meetups... it's actually straight up annoying lmao

[@LARA-sg4bt]

@@klipk7296you sound fun…

[@theperennialmillennial3849]

@@klipk7296 , but effective, right? 😁

[@brohogany9920]

Swipe on thousands of profiles, match with a few hundred, only 100 ever respond and make conversation. A dozen of them actually agree to go on dates. Most there's no attraction but you meet 1 who's cute. You go on 2 dates which were a lot of fun. You both message each other saying you had a great time. The next day they say there no longer interested. 2 years of dating apps and you only get to meet one person you were attracted to and couldn't make it past the second date. 10/10 experience

[@HotDawgzzzzz]

Pretty much sums up my experience .

[@bryantvargas5623]

Lots of guys complain about not getting matches but there’s a worse middle ground where you get plenty of matches but absolutely no energy or responses. The reality there’s perverse incentives on all sides. Women with tons of matches gamify it and keep looking for the next best thing. Many men will swipe on everyone and will immediately sexualize of pedastalize women leading them to lose their trust and respect for men. Both men and women are dealing with the worst aspects of dating and becoming bitter. This is an environment that is completely backwards for building a quality relationship. Delete the dating apps. They’re a scam and designed to be a miserable experience.

[@william_SMMA]

not having any options is always going to be worse than the middle ground

[@dwanrobinson]

It's been left to the scammers. Rich scammers pay to allow these fake profiles to exist in droves. 9 out 10 profiles are fake.

[@NL-ws5fv]

I'm glad to hear that running groups and clubs are becoming more recognized. I'm still trying but besides a chance of meeting someone it is nice to say that I run a weekly 5k with Parkrun. Good way to start the weekend.

[@citizenofcorona8783]

I think AI was the final nail in the coffin for dating apps. Think how easy it is now to fake a profile, both with a written profile and now your pictures and videos.

[@yours_xtruly]

"Enshittification" bruh 😂 How literal.

[@dragonstooth4223]

I've always been glad I missed the dating app generation of human existence. It sounds depressing and creepy to be on them

[@Wokstarkilo]

Being a bit dramatic

[@StochasticUniverse]

It isn't just those apps. Everything about beeing a Zoomer is depressing. It's why they're the most depressed generation ever to be born. Direct cause and effect.

[@reedmckinney7426]

Being a human in current year is depressing and creepy

[@jankowalsky8345]

i give up , beign on those got me depressed. in real life no one interested in me,i know i never get married or have kids🥲

[@nuudelz3711]

@@StochasticUniversethis isn’t a zoomer thing mate, if you’re burned out already by 24 from dating apps your in for a long ride. These have been around since 2008

[@AlexFrank02]

As a gay man dating apps aren’t dating apps they are pretty much exclusively for one night stands. Its just not appealing so I use it for entertainment every once in a while

[@melissacorbett4180]

Yep, that's exactly how a gay (male) friends uses the app. He has the body of a greco-roman god and goes on there for hookups and has a great time! A female bi friend uses a lesbian dating app and most of the women on there use it to "date" in the more traditional sense... They're looking for a relationship. She's had mixed results but the benchmark of "success" (a healthy long term relationship) is obviously much higher than a bunch of hookups. And maybe this is one of the big problems with the dating apps. They try to be a matchmaking service and a hookup platform all at the same time for straight people. Lots of straight men looking for sex with no strings attached and women looking for relationships with men and only meeting guys who want sex then women leave the platform because they're not getting what they wanted. Then the only women left are OnlyFans models, scammers and people needing validation. And I think a lot of men have left the dating apps too. I went back on OKC in 2020 and it felt devoid of real people compared to my experience 5 years earlier. Enshitification definitely is part of it too!

[@cheesefondont1579]

Two of my friends got messaged by a guy called "Butt Fairy" on Grindr when we were all in Amsterdam. That guy has become a creature of legend and a recurring joke within our friend group 😂😂😂

[@jayrollo1352]

Who would have thought that taking the human need for companionship which makes up the foundation of Maslow's hierarchy of needs and turning it into a f*cking game would not blow up in your face.

[@The-Entelechy]

There needs to be a dating app that does away with any of the gratification of swiping or being swiped at. Being a literal match maker and compelling you to actually want to go on a date with the person.

[@Daniel-tx2vt]

Real life.

[@StochasticUniverse]

That's what Match was 15 years ago. But it wasn't a phone app then, it was a website that you had to sit down in front of a computer to use, with a full keyboard and mouse. It feels like just doing that made it less gamefied, though.

[@Negniwret]

@@Daniel-tx2vt how so? It's unacceptable to flirt with people at your job, it's seen as weird to approach people on the street, and there's absolutely nothing around here. There's a few pubs I guess, but I stopped drinking. I haven't met a girl IRL since I left school... like 7 years ago

[@deusex9731]

Any cooking courses or something?​@@Negniwret

[@Mobius_ll]

This isn't going away. Its a matter of time before we get the app "We're not like the rest" until it too is swallowed by the machine

[@nhlcbj]

Repeat profiles, Porn/spam bots, Showing profiles outside your distance despite settings, Over monetization, No incentive to interact (bumble was unique here but now that’s gone), Ghosting, Catfishing, Excessive advertising, Stalkers, Selling private data, Increase in doom scrolling and depression. Yeah, they’re not worth it.

[@shaggy7599]

I just got on one recently, and what the heck is up with the distance filter??? I'm put 30 miles radius and i'm getting ppl from two states out... what the heck.

[@mountainmgtow5421]

It's funny about the heated seats in the BMW.. it's your car, you own it. I'd just re-wire the heated seats to the distributer with a switch - Boom, they work now.

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

Or just don't use the heated seats. Does anyone even like those things?

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

Or just don't use the heated seats. Does anyone even like those things?

[@mountainmgtow5421]

@@Jeremy-ql1or I don't, but I know many people like them.

[@bro918]

That will most certainly void their warranty tho if they find out

[@mountainmgtow5421]

@@bro918 So fix it yourself.

[@jackofthecoke]

Wanted up pop in and say I learned about your channel thanks to Amongold doing a react to this one. You really make good stuff, man. Subbed.

[@sylviesoppy]

Dating apps make me feel like an option that someone is “shopping” for. They say it’s not looks that determines matches but it mostly is. I’ll have guys with nothing in common like me for my looks alone, and it’s sad. I am so much more than my physical attributes.

[@to101md]

In-person interaction let’s you interact with the vibe of a person. I know it sounds bizarre but I think it’s the sixth sense a lot of people talk about, something in that person seems interesting/creepy (etc.) and you don’t really have a logical basis for it, a gut feeling if you will. Reading a profile online/hearing a voice over a call (etc.) doesn’t let you see this vibe, so many can only infer you from much shallower angles.

[@sor3999]

There's a reason why Tinder does better than other apps that require a questionnaire or the like with a fancy algorithm to match you. Tinder came in and is like "nah people are shallow, pictures only."

[@DiamondhandsForever]

it's ok that they like your looks at first. it's how they act after that matters. from the perspective of a man, courtship requires a lot of effort. a man simply can not be motivated to do it without a great reward soon after, that is sex with someone they're attracted to. that's why it's a good thing they find you attractive. however, if they act terribly after then obviously they are not interested in a real relationship. right now i'm in my late 30s and my libido is weak. i have a very very hard time feeling attracted to women who aren't above average and it makes it very hard for me to court anyone because it's hard to expend so much effort. i'm not good enough for attractive women so i can only attract average or below average women. when i was younger and my libido was strong, i was highly motivated to court average women. that made it easier to find love.

[@Nate45448]

Yea ur not like the other girls lol

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

Great video commentary. Once upon a time, dating sites were a great option for busy introverts who couldn’t afford a matchmaker. While there were still scammers and scum buckets on those sites, the majority of the people were looking for something meaningful. Now, the apps feature the bottom of the barrel in the dating pool: - married people pretending to be single - people looking for an easy “smash and dash” - psychos - catfishes who use clever angles and filters to appear slimmer or taller - scammers - broke dusty bums looking for a sugar mama or sugar daddy - secks workers looking for new customers - fake bot accounts made by the app to keep you hooked

[@Ebc1129]

I met my husband in a language learning app…

[@Patrick_Bateman92]

Was it tandem? People on there are so uptight about being approached in any kind of romantic way.

[@YurinanAcquiline]

​@@Patrick_Bateman92 Ummm. Well yes, people would feel weird being hit on in a language learning app.

[@LARA-sg4bt]

@@YurinanAcquilineand yet, it happened and it worked :)

[@matthewprairie9552]

Same I was using a language learning app to make friends and learn, I met my gf there . I didn't think I would find love lol I was about to give up on the app because I was unsuccessful at learning Japanese but then I met my gf . it's funny how life works 😂

[@kos2919]

@@YurinanAcquiline and this is why people like you never find a meaningful relationship.

[@munchyman0196]

1. It’s not natural 2. It’s not for men 3. They scam you 4. Mentally draining 5. Go out side go grocery shopping go to the mall go to the gym a park events just go and trust you’ll find your person or a friend who knows where your person is. Dude hit the points on the T. The algorithm really is dehumanizing. Especially hinge. Ironic the name is hinge

[@leonidas14775]

The fact that dating apps have a monthly fee instead of a one time fee has the implication that they won't match you with the best partner to keep you on the platform and paying.

[@totallyjon]

Love your videos! Always happy to see a new upload. It’s such a good middle-ground between data analysis and breaking things down psychologically, while also feeling like casual (one-sided) conversation. Keep it up

[@richard-df6pr]

hard to market an app that 80 % of one base chasing 10% of the the other base , whilst trying to get the rejected people to pay for ...

[@PhotoJeticPoet]

Ya'll think we supposed to say yes to anyone while only swiping right on your type 😂

[@1495978707]

​@@PhotoJeticPoetNo, it's that it's clearly not the same. Men swipe right far more often than women do. If you *still* don't know this, you have to be living under a damn rock. Also, the irritation isn't even with women being picky, because they have the higher reproductive burden. It's that women pretend that they're not picky, and are picky in ways that harm themselves and everyone else. That is, picking a bad boy, a Chad, a player, because he makes wet right away and knows just what to say. Value virtue over tingles and so many problems we have will go away

[@somerandomyoutubeuser271]

@@PhotoJeticPoet You don't supposed to do shit. My fellow man needs to leave dating apps and stop inflating your already super inflated egos.

[@PhotoJeticPoet]

@@somerandomyoutubeuser271 lmao you think you a catch with that opinion of women huh?

[@somerandomyoutubeuser271]

@@PhotoJeticPoet Na, I stopped trying to chase em. Too much hassle for too little gain

[@robinbaldrian3352]

One of the best videos about the topic of dating apps.Thank you for putting in the work and sharing, this was great!

[@Emmm-ii6tx]

I wish men IRL would stop approaching women and acting interested by asking them for their number and on a date, to later find out, they have a girlfriend.. no one wants to approach anyone anymore IRL because people give choosing signals and it ends up they are with a partner or married. So if people actually started to live in the real world and act appropriately to attract potential partners I believe more people would opt for IRL dating.

[@AlahuSnackbar]

women do it more than men

[@to101md]

I wonder how much of that is biased towards those who already have someone. They already have someone as a “fallback” so they can be more cocky/outgoing compared to the lonely, as such they stand out from the sea of those who maybe do want someone but lack the ability to make a move. You are right though, that if more people gave signals, the cheaters would be drowned out.

[@Emmm-ii6tx]

You are 100% right just found out a guy who follows me around the gym flirting and giving all the choosing signals of a beyond interested man is wait for it.. MARRIED LOL dating is doomed in real life or online hahaha

[@lopoa126]

@@Emmm-ii6tx A work flirt. I've had several matches sending some rather spicy pictures, only to find out from their social media that they already had a partner. "Oh I was in bed with my boyfriend when i sent that topless pic" types. Would have hit it, but kind of glad I didn't accidentally get them prego.

[@MehoyMenoy13]

I’m 29 and I hated dating apps. Don’t want to sound like a pick me but I find it very hard to form a connection with anyone over the internet if I never met them in real life. I don’t consider someone a friend or even an online friend until I meet them irl

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

Internet Law 473: All criticisms of dating apps will eventually lead to someone proposing a new dating app.

[@MrMegaGamerMan]

I love how Bumble's whole schtick was "women make the first move", and then they realized that would require actual effort on their part 😂😂😂😂

[@annab4402]

For me it's the fake profiles and the sleazy guys lying about everything or hiding fact they have 3 kids or they just want a hook up not a relationship. Also they show people from far away to make sure even if you meet someone it's unlikely to work out. Also they changed algorithm for women so we have less real matches and more fakes who just chat all day and then cancel date as they are not real. Real people just want to meet asap. But they can be sleazy and touchy feely within seconds of the date, so overall I'm out of all apps

[@Guest-iy3tc]

Don’t forget about the people selling some type of “service “ for whatever reason.

[@VonGoldfinger]

Do you wear makeup?

[@USSResolute]

Two ways you end up deleting Hinge: you succeed or you experience abysmal failure. They let you assume it was the first, but most people delete the app for the later. Never did I ever actually get a date online dating.

[@ShonarXR331]

Everyone should get off dating apps. Literally no point of being on them, especially if you're a man. I wasted so much time thinking I'd even get anywhere on them.

[@portman8909]

You need to be chad or tyrone ideally

[@RevShifty]

I've never used them. Something about commodifying people and relationships like that just creeps the hell out of me. But I also don't have any problems meeting with or speaking to random people in real life, so I might just be wired strangely.

[@ultimatewafflegaming1018]

@@portman8909 even then they probably only want you cause ur hot theyll leave once real commitment begins and thats especially risky if youre wealthy cause they will play along then divorce you take your shit and your kids and leave you to your misery.. how do you think most of the richest women received their wealth

[@Lonevessel]

I remember using one dating app about 3 years ago and deleted it afterwards because nothing really happened. And that the app scams you of your money. Why was that on dating apps when you date for free irl. To hell with these dating apps.

[@sierraa.bryant9322]

Especially if you're a woman*

[@evaluna122]

I would just like to comment that dating apps have in some ways ruined dating. As a male, I’ve resorted to deleting dating apps and start reading books on pick-up and women and it has helped me out way more than those apps every did. All those apps do is isolate you and keep you on them. Now that I’m starting to learn to approach women and get over that anxiety and start to learn openers, I don’t feel as lonely and I’ve also started to love strangers more now that I have started to learn more approach conversations! My advice to young men is to stay off these apps and start to approach women in real life, hell, you don’t even have to approach them, just learn to socialize with strangers more and you’ll meet the right one through the best friend you made when you decided to compliment their outfit at a concert!

[@tomryan9827]

Nothing specific to add about this video, I just really love your whole vibe

[@JV-jf8ck]

i love how i got a bumble ad before the start of the video

[@zenymax8348]

No wonder there is so much burn out.. men don't get matches and women meet men that most of the time are worse than those in the streets.. One of my previous dates was shocked cause I was the first in her 600 matches who did not to talk about sex or worse... (cause I'm (demi)ace.. lol)

[@Mythox_]

600 matches. Bro you guys need jesus in your lives.

[@JS-tm1gq]

@@Mythox_ As an atheist I agree, these mf's need Iesus

[@lopoa126]

Tinder matches can be confusing since it is Tinder.

[@eamflutes]

This is a great example of high value content. You brought up some excellent points that I am now considering differently. Thank you!

[@Aloddff]

I think I’ve been saying the “internet is dying” or “the internet is dead” when I meant the enshitification of the internet

[@Victfil]

wouldn`t say it`s dead but it`s sure being kept hostage on a basement by corporations

[@eddiejohnson4434]

Subscribed! Even though I don’t care for the actual subject , your delivery and way of conveying information is top notch

[@ibrokemyownheart4953]

I saw a girl’s perspective in dating apps and I’m basically competing against models

[@SamsTopBarBees]

"We can improve the app but it means we wont make as much money..." Yeah sounds about right. Extremely well balanced look at the problem, you do what needs to be done and simply follow the money. Thanks for sharing.

[@acidnine3692]

I hate it cause they destroyed all the other alternatives. Where can you find actual matchmaking services now? my dad married my mom after being set up by a match maker after a few years of dating. I would love to have something like that now adays.

[@to101md]

Call me old-fashioned, but I honestly believe looking for a partner/spouse/hookup isn’t worth it compared to finding a friend. If you’re gonna spend a long time with someone (in the case of marriage 40+ years) you had better get along. Us humans didn’t used to have matchmaking services. If you look it up, most people made relationships through mutual friends (i.e they had a common interest)

[@m_here1]

Thank you for affirming my decision a few months ago to completely delete dating apps and never download them again. I am not a runner but I’ve explored other options to meet people. Not to mention my mental health has improved by leaving the dehumanizing experience of dating apps behind

[@uchuuseijin]

I met my girlfriend of 5 years by fucking with the Tinder algorithm and it creeped her out the first time I told her about it. I wonder if I should feel guilty about it- it's not like I was lying to her or trying to deceive her (I was lying to the algorithm), but I probably wouldn't have met her if I didn't delete my account and make a new one and swipe left on the majority of women to keep my elo rating high

[@DiamondhandsForever]

holy shit i should do that. when i first got on tinder, i matched so many real people. after i began paying, now i mainly see bots.

[@user-yl7kl7sl1g]

You're only mistake was telling her. Men have to do ALOT to get girls, it's insanely competitive everywhere, BUT we have to make it look effortless or we'll creep them out and repel the away. You showed you put in effort , that's repulsive.

[@BoozySZN]

thanks for the video! appreciate the work you put into them!

[@cjxgraphics]

Dating apps have a built in, never ending supply of users. More people become of dating age every day. But that’s not enough. Just like a cancer, and most modern corporations they need more. They’re never satisfied with endless profit. It must be endless AND more than last year.

[@JosephTerterian]

I hate dating apps. I always end up feeling drained and I end up not meeting anyone because people match and don’t talk. I feel ignored and rejected. Even after matching. It’s horrible out there.

[@styx953]

Shocker for alot of peoples it seems, that massive corporations wanna make money, they don't want you to find love because that means losing customers. They wanna keep you trapped.