With how the world is far to often, living under that rock sounds awfully appealing idea (the rock would need to be in a nice place though, not to hot or cold and dry but not too dry, my room is 28% humidity and that's making my nose swor)
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
I would also like to live under a rock lol
@HBHaga Жыл бұрын
If WotC/Hasbro thinks that they can get away with this sort of thing later on then they will try again. Then there's still the matter of D&D Beyond and VTTs.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
I agree
@jamesisaacson6379 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable question do you know witch book/page of 5edition vampire masquerade what do it talk about timzice founder new formation and his going back to his original form in 21 century ?
@SapphicStoryteller Жыл бұрын
Really glad I found your channel during all of this! Thank you for the updates and I'm excited to dive into your Starfinder content!
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Hope it helps with your games
@shaunhall960 Жыл бұрын
I think was a good lesson to our community that companies are not our friends. That doesn't mean that we can like what a company does but we should always be mindful about how we are being treated. Our focus should always be directed to our community. I see that you are back in Canada now. I hope all does well with you and your channel. Thanks for getting me interested in Starfinder!
@rdmsh Жыл бұрын
Im wrapping up my current 5e stuff and heading into the world of pathfinder 2
@MsMotherWolf Жыл бұрын
I found you because I was originally looking for stuff on Starfinder and I still need/want to get around to picking up a couple books for it.
@thomassnider9360 Жыл бұрын
I would also love it if you were to continue the Shadowrun Lore videos too!
@bryce1197 Жыл бұрын
Definitely the best outcome for 5e. While I doubt I will ever buy another WoTC 5e product, I am especially unlikely to buy any OneDND product until I become more sure what the use/terms is for that. But the plus side, my group is more open to 3rd party products considering the debacle which in turn may hopefully lead to them embracing other systems as well.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Im hesitant to do anything with one dnd but the continued success of 5e hopefully should continue for a while now
@dawall3732 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I will support Wizards anymore. What they did was skeezy if that's even a word. The fact is that this wasn't the 1st time they attempted something like this. Once is a mistake. More is a pattern.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
True words
@marcuswestphal4955 Жыл бұрын
Respectfully, I advise against that course of action. As I believe continuing to abandon after they listened to the community will prevent them from listening in the future.
@dawall3732 Жыл бұрын
@@marcuswestphal4955 The problem is they're not listening. They pretend to be listening. Instead, they're looking for another avenue to push the exact same thing. This is the way bureaucrats on board of directors and companies think and operate. They just look for a different angle. Like I said before, this is not the 1st time they have done something like this. The people who started the company and the franchise are not the people in charge now. The people who started the company and the franchise enjoyed what they were doing. They understood the setting, and they understood the environment. The people in charge now are just business bureaucrats, nothing more. They care about the amount of revenue they can get for the cheapest output. They care about what they are legally capable of getting away with. If the fans come against something they did, they will stop if it stops making money. If it hurts the bottom line, they will not permanently stop they will just look for a different way to do the same thing if they think it will bring in more revenue. They have not ever been someone who would enjoy this genre. The only game they probably ever played would be leisure suit Larry computer game back in the eighties.
@isaacschmitt4803 Жыл бұрын
I will probably continue to play 5e, maybe buy one or two supplements already out, but Wizards is on notice. I was already starting to branch out towards Starfinder anyway (which is how I discovered your channel) before all this chicanery came out, so it really wouldn't be too hard to move forward and never look back. Hell, Pathfinder was my initial introduction to RPGs back in the day, and I only moved to 5e because when I moved no one local played Pathfinder. I still haven't checked out second edition yet, so now may be as good a time as any. . .
@marcuswestphal4955 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't abandon wotc right now, atleast not fully. It's always good to have a back up plan, but in my horrendously humble opinion abandoning now would teach the company that people will abandon them no matter what they do. Which could lead to very bad things.
@Kyzrath Жыл бұрын
I haven't bought a single 4e or 5e book (for various reasons), and this entire thing has made sure that I never will. I'm going to stick to the Old World of Darkness and Battletech from here on out.
@TheGuyInATie1 Жыл бұрын
Welcome back to Canada, Maple Table!
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much
@Han-rw9ev Жыл бұрын
No matter what Hasbro says, they seem to find a way of twisting it to mean something different. I'm still looking at the ORC as a better, hopefully more trustworthy, alternative.. Right now, Hasbro have got a movie coming out and they don't want people throwing tantrums at the party.. But, going by their previous behaviour, I'm also convinced they're also working on a few more traps to spring on us later..
@jameswhite-pv3sq Жыл бұрын
Honestly watching your channel during this has gt me back into world of darkness .and it's also introduced me to starfinder as a setting. This ogl change may have been terrifying but it's has gained u at least one watcher .cheers mate
@DoomnDust Жыл бұрын
Fool me once....
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
They pulled the 23 year long con
@Dandizz Жыл бұрын
Great vids! I am def leaving D&D for good. Starfinder is too awesome, WoTC basically gave me a reason to try it out. What part of Canada you from? I am on the East Coast.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Im going to be back in the west. Alberta specifically, I moved from there to the UK and now I return
@Dandizz Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable Best of luck with the move, safe travels to you my friend.
@calvanoni5443 Жыл бұрын
I. Don't support Wotc/Hasbro, haven't for over 5 years.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
I was getting back into it before I moved. But its so hard to justify any more purchases
@marcuswestphal4955 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Hasbro has fixed the ogl. This means that we can continue with our stuff. In my disgustingly humble opinion, I think we shouldn't abandon wotc as it would punish the company and teach them to double down on such decisions in the future.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
There needs to be some kind of accountability but a total boycott hurts them and all the 3rd party publishers. The later I care more about.
@marcuswestphal4955 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleTable latter* but yes.
@donalddouds6033 Жыл бұрын
The whole “backwards compatible” thing is definitely out the window now. There’s no way they will make it easy to make it as such as it would cut out the “new” $$$$$
@michaelriddick7116 Жыл бұрын
Used to work for WotC back in '99 to '04 ... sad to see it go to shit :/
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Im sorry, this was probably hard to watch
@DeadpoolAli Жыл бұрын
I still play 5e and will for a long time, but they are NOT getting my money!!! Also long live STARFINDER!
@bravojr Жыл бұрын
hold...
@cyborgmanfromakatsuki8098 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video to shadowrun Geopolitica A lot of this game came true
@RIVERSRPGChannel Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a win but what will WotC do next. I still don’t trust them to not try and screw over the creators and fans.
@marcuswestphal4955 Жыл бұрын
Not trusting a company is always a good call.
@derrickhaggard Жыл бұрын
I'm willing to forgive WotC for this potential blunder but I'm keeping my eye on them from now on.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
That's fair
@marcuswestphal4955 Жыл бұрын
Exactly how I feel mate.
@thefenrisianssweatshop Жыл бұрын
Yeah… this and magic 30. Nathaniel… I am DONE with hasbro/wotc outside of parodying this in an Avalon chronicle.
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
Totally fair
@Hazunaki666 Жыл бұрын
whats hard to make and easy to destroy?
@TheMapleTable Жыл бұрын
What is trust? I'll take corporate overreaching for 500 Alex.
@falco5148 Жыл бұрын
Once a cheater, always a cheater! Wotc has betrayed my trust.
@EclipseWarlord Жыл бұрын
I stopped buying D&D products after the BS Wizards tried with 4e.
@sirderik Жыл бұрын
Well don't fucking buy this trash, WotC could never made the changes they wanted to the OGL legally and now they more or less confirmed that we won't get much more for DND 5e because it's now "unrevokable open" like i read the original OGL, i don't get this idea that it's some mesaiha document as well, it's basically the sheer basics all other pnp RPGs are built on... You are all applauding the equivalent of a signs that said "free refills" being put back on a public tap. What's gonna happen now is that they will try to get the DND community to spread the news that "they won" than DND one will be the cash cow DND 5e could never legally be...like legally DND would never been able to go through with all the fear mongering that people where speaking bull about as well.. court even as messed up as amarica could never ever ruled this in WotC favour...i read the original and the new version...there was never going to be a outcome of this shit other than the difference between DND making lots of noice in court or not.
@marcuswestphal4955 Жыл бұрын
Can you edit in some commas, apostrophes, and paragraph breaks? I am not trying to be rude, and I am sorry if I come off that way, but I am having trouble reading your comment.
@keithhinder7042 Жыл бұрын
Have you considered checking out games like city of mist or heart the city beneath?