It's Time to Put Driver's Ed Back Into Schools

And at least one state agrees with me.
www.lehtoslaw.com

[@theodoreolson8529]

I'm an older guy. Driver's Ed was a summer school class taught by high school teachers including the on the road driving. In fact back then they got cars from the dealer that were equipped with dual brake pedals and steering wheels. We should take it a step farther and teach financial management and some life skills like cooking (for everybody).

[@Zyo117]

We had a class in high school called Home Economics, but it was a bigger waste of time than the rest of high school frankly. Financial math? Cooking? We got the slightest look at what that might be like, but only as group projects, never alone. It didn't actually teach any independence or life skills, just another class to show how to do things with other people.

[@karlrovey]

Personal finance is a required course in Missouri. When I took it, it covered taxes, insurance, loans, budgeting, and balancing a check book (I don't know if the checking simulation is still part of the course), basically all financial topics that the people who take this class complain about not learning in school when they got older. It was taught, they just didn't care to learn at the time because it was a required gen ed course.

[@markseaman4750]

Amen brother! We have produced several generations of ignorant young people as a result of the deletion of Driver’s Ed, Civics, Vocational Ed etc etc.

[@joanfregapane8683]

I agree! ALL students should be required to take a semester of driver’s Ed, home ec, and shop class.

[@Rekuzan]

Like in the Cone Heads movie!

[@letusgrow2gether801]

I wholeheartedly AGREE! It NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM HIGH SCHOOLS!😡 You can pay for driver’s education via your taxes or you will pay via higher auto insurance rates. Because we are ALL GONNA PAY one way or another!!!

[@JoshuaKA02]

I 100% agree, and don't want it to stop there. People would benefit from education like this so much.

[@Ronin7477]

I 100% agree this should be mandatory education, far too many people on the road do not know the basic points of driving

[@mattiemathis9549]

Drivers Ed was mandatory at my high school. One semester of class room instruction and a road test and then we got our permit. My dad did a good job of teaching me how to be safe on the road, but what I learned in that class has kept me alive.

[@kevinbarrer5088]

Driver's Education was an elective at my high school. The instructors tended to be the varsity coaches. An improper lane change led to having to pull over and do 20 push-ups.

[@samuhell14]

Driver classes are mandatory over here in the banana republic of Quebec and it did little to help with terrible drivers. They litteraly teach you to drive during the day with your high beam on to be more visible....except a lot of car won't allow you to do that and when the car actually switch on the lights at dusk, they're blinding everyone on the road because they forgot their #$&@*$% high beams. That and people relying entirely on blind spot, collision avoidance, vehicle stability and lane assist technologies, it creates a sense of false safety during winter because the car is compensating for lack of preventative driving and traction.....until it can't anymore. People that don't care about the other people they share the road with still won't, even with driver classes

[@CynthiaRockroth]

I have an engineering degree nephew WHOM REFUSES TO DRIVE. He is in his 20s. He will probably never drive unless he learns buggy driving.

[@MB-ig6gl]

We have the chain of bad drivers poorly training the new drivers to be even worse. Having it in school provides some consistent standards. I hated when they took it out of schools. That's when I noticed a steep decline in the skill of the average driver. I read the driver's Reddit and Idiots in Cars and many times the Posters are just wrong when they think they were in the right. I have even posted the applicable law as reference/proof and they will reply with that's not reality (well it is for everyone else). Many have "made up" rules that are the opposite of the actual rules and standards - which they learned from parents. And that assumes the parents passed down at least 80% of what they learned. Just watch the chaos at a multilane 4-Way Stop. I avoid those like the plague. Funny how I have no problem following those laws (which 99% of everyone else does) but these folks don't even believe it is the rule. It is the reason I installed dashcams in my cars.

[@rockyroad7345]

I agree that a driver's ed certificate should be required for anyone applying for a license---but not in schools. There are plenty of private companies and more would be created to do the job. If taxes are involved, there will be waste and excessive cost. If you want a license, you can pay for the school. If you can't afford the school, you'll never be able to afford a car and insurance.

[@kringeknight4831]

I graduated in 2019. We had drivers Ed 2nd half sophomore year. It always shocked my friends from out of state that didn’t have it. I always thought it was odd that they didn’t. It just seemed so natural since most of us after we got the permits were driving ourselves once we were old enough to.

[@CajunShrek]

N I think it should be comprehensive like driving around big trucks what to do in a emergency ie fire water etc and b required to do a skid pad course to get it and everytime you get in an accident or renewal

[@gimcrack555]

I remember Drivers Ed in High School. My instructor/teacher insisted I'm the one that made his hair to start greying out. Sorry Mr. Thomas.

[@MichaelPaoli]

Where and when I went to school Driver's Ed and Driver's Training were free and in the schools ... but not mandatory. However almost everyone did both, as it was generally a faster and earlier path to getting driver's permit and driving license. And, though far from perfect, it was still a pretty good program ... actually the Driver's Training was about excellent ... instructor I happened to have for Driver's Training was also the auto shop teacher ... so very good on the training and highly experienced trainer, also relevant on auto mechanics related safety tips ... only bit was we also had to slow way down any time he spotted a Mustang on the street ;-)

[@ShotgunAFlyboy]

Driver's ed should be required every 15 years. Things change over time and a lot of people too frail to be on the road are removed only after causing large numbers of crashes.

[@cjburian1]

I think it's bonkers that driver's ed in Massachusetts is optional for high schools. We had to get our daughter private lessons, which weren't remotely as good as the driver's ed I had in high school. Not teaching driving in school is like not teaching home economics or social studies or art or anything else besides the 3Rs.

[@Art-mo5bt]

It is the adult's resposibility to the adolescents. Their brains still need guidance (Biophysical reality).

[@lazyj616]

The teachers that teach also have to take the class to teach drivers Ed.

[@canileaveitblank1476]

Agreed. I also think gun safety needs to return as an elective, too! I had gun safety, boating safety and CPR in middle school. Useful classes!

[@rogergeyer9851]

As an elective, gun safety makes tons of sense, IMO. So many STUPID gun accidents could be avoided with the SIMPLEST principle of NEVER aiming at ANYONE, unless you might need to shoot them -- including yourself / part of your body. I learned such things in basic gun safety at camp, just so I could fire a 22 rifle at a paper target. Actually, such simple training should be mandatory to buy a gun, IMO, but of course, the NRA etc. would object. And I own a gun for home safety, so don't go thinking I'm anti-gun, etc. Just pro safety and common sense and responsibility for dangerous things like handling guns and driving.

[@tarrantwolf]

But if more people had experience with guns less people would be phobic of them and democrats would have an even harder time banning them.

[@konnorj6442]

Indeed we had it I taught it as well when I was in HS (I was already trained far more than the course ever would do so I was made one of the teachers) But that was eliminated due to the anti gun bunnies in direct contravention to the claim the antigun bs is about safety

[@konnorj6442]

Indeed we had it I taught it as well when I was in HS (I was already trained far more than the course ever would do so I was made one of the teachers) But that was eliminated due to the anti gun bunnies in direct contravention to the claim the antigun bs is about safety

[@konnorj6442]

Indeed we had it I taught it as well when I was in HS (I was already trained far more than the course ever would do so I was made one of the teachers) But that was eliminated due to the anti gun bunnies in direct contravention to the claim the antigun bs is about safety

[@johnpatrick1588]

Drivers Ed, Wood Shop, Metal Shop, Electric Shop, Automotive Shop, and Home Economics were more valuable than most classes in High School and more fun.

[@shibosuru]

I remember taking all of those.

[@theundone777]

Taking shop classes in Middle School made me comfortable with all kinds of tools. I turned out to be a very handy gal! I still have an irrational fear of the bandsaw, though. 😂 Seriously, it gave me confidence to learn basic woodworking, basic electrical, basic plumbing, Etc.

[@leighanneboles4386]

Yes I took home EC....no girl now can sew on a button or cook anything not for a microwave...sad...

[@theundone777]

​@@leighanneboles4386these are basic life tasks that everyone should know how to do, not just women. The good news is that anyone who wants to learn how to do those things has easy access to KZbin Tutorials.

[@RideFree1]

Where did you guys go to HS. I was in Virginia and we had all of those classes plus Mechanical Drawing/Drafting and Typing. Automotive was called "Power Mechanics" Electric shop was called "Electronics". I took every class but Home Economics & Electronics. LOL... I still can't stick weld worth a hoot.

[@seiboldtadelbertsmiter3735]

Steve we know that things like this rarely happen because they make sense. There are so many things that have been removed from school that need to be put back in. Vocational courses need to be added back to teach a new generation of carpenters, plumbers, welders, electricians, and every other trade that has been neglected for the last 40 years. I didn't have any of those classes available when I went to school because they had been removed due to budget cuts.

[@christopherursino4281]

Drivers Ed and first aid should be mandatory in school.

[@-Katastrophe]

As should how to make a budget and fill out your taxes.

[@christopherursino4281]

@@-Katastrophe that should be taught under citizenship.

[@andrewalexander9492]

@@christopherursino4281 Non-citizens are not exempt from taxes.

[@terriyoung2389]

And civics!

[@christopherursino4281]

@andrewalexander9492 noncotizens need to know this also. Citizenship teaches this also. Also where to go, if you have concerns about the taxes and/or laws. Try the city or count seat!

[@brianloke1453]

I'm right there with you, Steve. My kids are grown, and I had Driver's Ed in Highscool almost 4 decades ago. I'm also happy to have other drivers on the road educated.

[@toriless]

I had mine in the 70's. This is why I use my turn signals and know HOW to turn unlike 95% of drivers, including my wife, that turn incorrectly.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

When I took driver's ed, a successful completion would reduce your insurance a little bit. This helped offset the "new driver" premium bump that made the first few years more expensive.

[@f.demascio1857]

I fully agree. My drivers Ed teacher was also the Auto Shop and Health teacher. Even bigger, he was a volunteer fire fighter and EMS. Over the years, he had annually responded to horrific accidents with a deceased soon to graduate senior from our school. His stories made the lessons stick.

[@draco4540]

3 out of the 4 years in high school. a senior would die in a car accident. it was always within a week of graduation. the kid was out partying and driving drunk. my graduating class broke that morbid tradition.

[@ronaldkemp3952]

I'm 60. When I was 15 our school offered the class called Health and Safety. We learned CPR, basic heath, hygiene and learned driver's safety, road signs, driving laws, and the school even provided cars to drive around in the parking lot specifically made for driver's ED so we could learn how to parallel park, back up around obstacles using mirrors and more. For our driver's test the instructor rode along with his own brake peddle and I drove on the highway, passing, merging etc. Those who passed the class were issued a certificate that could be used instead of having to pay for the road test at the local DMV. Everything was provided by the school. I graduated from Kalamazoo Central High School back in 1980. I passed Health and Safety with an A and was driving on the road before I was 16. I've never had an accident while driving that was later determined to be my fault. Health and Safety should be mandatory in every High School across the USA! The roads would be much safer if everyone knew the laws, signs and how to drive before they got their license.

[@deboracopeland4795]

I’m 63 and remember this. Maybe it’s an insurance thing?

[@_Circus_Clapped_]

you can blame the Department of Education and school districts for being too scared to even propose this again to parents in school

[@paulmentzer7658]

In most cases, Driver education was canceled due to insurance concern. Many High Schools had a choice, cut out Driver's Education or Football. The schools all decided to keep Football over Driver's Education. I disliked that decision but your school board made that decision.

[@rogergeyer9851]

It's interesting the sources of various education people had. I'm 64. I got a LOT of health education by taking health / PE in summer school to avoid all the violence / hassle / nonsense taking PE in high school. Got a LOT of good first aid training in boy scouts from a real physician with first aid merit badge with a tough comprehensive written exam, etc. I don't remember if there was a fee for driver's ed or not, but if there was it was small. I also learned about food safety / health, by reading up and passing the required test to work in a restaurant (needed a permit for that, even as a teen). Had my first computer course from 4H -- the farm outfit. It was a great Fortran course that showed me what I wanted to take for my college major, luckily, BEFORE I went to college and found out by accident, maybe after my Freshman year. So that was GREAT. I would agree health and safety would be great. But if you have PE teachers teaching it, I would be concerned with the QUALITY of the teaching. We had health and PE in middle school for two years and almost NEVER cracked the health book or were tested on it AT ALL (it was mostly just a study hour), but the PE was pretty decent -- because that's what the coaches LIKED.

[@truthsRsung]

Did your Parent ever impart some Knowledge on you about driving in the 15 years leading up to your Licensing? Did you have experience in a car as a passenger in that time? Parents these days don't have their children looking out the window for license plates, or different color cows, or anything for that matter. There is a screen lighting up their face.

[@dougb3699]

I took "drivers ed" in high school back in 1971/72. To this day, I follow the procedures and practises that I learned.

[@siamesepleaseme7468]

Agreed!!! Makes for most knowledgeable drivers and safest drivers!

[@tonytenbreock8546]

We all took Driver's Ed. We were actually pulled from regular classes. Everybody got the training. It was a graduation requirement. Excellent program. Thanks for a good presentation.

[@saveddijon]

Question: did you actually have to get your license? Where I'm from (Ontario, Canada) once my son gets his license, then unless he also gets a car registered in his name, I must put him on my insurance policy and pay any additional premium. This subjects me to a recurring expense which makes sense if there is a genuine need for him to drive(e.g. get to work/school) but may not make sense otherwise until he gets his own steady income.

[@rogergeyer9851]

@@saveddijon: Unless he's NEVER drive ANY of your cars -- it's very understandable why he needs to be on your policy. How many parents do you suppose NEVER let their kids drive ANY of their cars. Under 1 percent? I don't know that it should be a law, but I understand the logic.

[@76rjackson]

For us it was taught after school. And Continuing Education Units should be required to renew.

[@heatherbeane3234]

We had a class and the driving portion was in the summer.

[@ahettinger525]

When I was a kid that's what I recall, too. If it's changed (I don't have kids), It should be changed back.

[@gretchenlittle6817]

Agreed. Class of '76 here -- I still remember some of the things we learned in Driver Ed, like safe following distances, hydroplaning, etc. I already knew how to control a vehicle, but I learned a lot about how to do it safely.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Turning into the skid, don't use the foot brake when sliding just take your foot off the accelerator, part of the function of a seat belt is to keep you in your seat to better control the car... So many lessons. I have not been at fault for any accident greater than a bumper tap in 35+ years.

[@wadeb.5509]

Drivers Ed & Hunter's Safety were elective courses in our Junior High. Full quarter for the Hunter's Safety....Pew pew pew and all. Drivers Ed was actually a full semester and I did mine on snow and ice as well.

[@domfer2540]

How dare you to teach weapons, bow and fishing. My son completed the hunting course and he learned the right way to handle useful hunting or sportsman activities. Now our kids can only watch men dress in a makeup.

[@Garth2011]

Yessiree. I'd think the many auto insurance companies would pitch in with new driver education since they are the ones who will be first to experience the cost of poor skills. Seems they spend lots on useless advertising at sporting events and other ads that rarely pay for themselves.

[@StormyPeak]

Back in 1976, I was the first girl to take the hunting safety course. I already knew how to handle firearms though, use to go up to the shooting range with my dad and brother and shoot various calibers of rifles and handguns. Idaho at the time, didn't require hunter safety classes, but I think...if a teen took the class there was a discount on the license and tags for deer and elk. We had some full sized rifles...but they shot pellets, and the teacher put up some backstop in a classroom. And we took shooting lessons...standing, kneeling, laying down. I hit bulleyes most of the time...and the guys were always amazed. We also learned some simple survival rules and basic equipment to take up into the mountains. We had to learn to read a map, and read a compass. And of course there were no cellphones back then, a whistle and hopefully a smoky campfire would help rescuers find you. We also learned how to field dress a kill, then to butcher it. Yep, Fish and Game supplied us with several dead deer...either poached and/or road kills. At the end of one week, we had 2 deer, and two teams and we each worked a little bit on stripping the hide off of the deer and hanging them. Then the following week, each team pulled the deer down and onto a butchering table and we learned where the muscle groups were and how to make the cuts. I already knew...helped butcher deer and elk for years by then at home. We also had a written test on the hunting regulations and other things that were taught to us. Everyone passed with high grades.

[@cianna2813]

I absolutely agree with you 100%. I had to pay for my children for private driving lessons because i want to make sure they know the rules and how to drive because most people on the road do not know how to drive and it scares me. It should be back in schools and mandatory.

[@Grokroot]

If ignorance of the law is no excuse, then the law needs to be taught in school, especially traffic laws.

[@gcanada3005]

I’m shocked at the ignorance so many Americans show when they complain about paying teachers a good wage. I’ve heard about places in the south building housing because teachers cannot afford to live near their schools

[@MrFixItGa]

Not enough people believe this or say it out loud.

[@shebangbinbash1776]

Especially since traffic laws often "trump" your constitutionally recognized rights!

[@saigyl9149]

@@shebangbinbash1776 no they don't

[@Grokroot]

@@shebangbinbash1776 you are absolutely right, we could start with requiring you to seize yourself with a seatbelt, a 4th amendment violation. Requiring you to purchase a service from a 3rd party, which then allows the unethical insurance companies to charge absurd fees.

[@TheGreekSneak]

Drivers Educatiom was an after school class that we took in high school when we were ready. It wasn't required but it was available nonetheless. It's a racket now imo. I'm shaking my fist at the sky with ya Steve! ✊☁️

[@elizabethruben5004]

I think this makes sense. Some high schools have very strict educational programs (like the IB) so there’s no place for driver’s ed DURING school hours. Making it an optional school-provided after school class would help avoid conflict with other classes.

[@Rekuzan]

This is why a Dashcam is absolutely essential these days. You can't really do anything about whether they know how to drive or not, you can only protect yourself.

[@andywomack3414]

Traffic cameras and photo radar as well. Used to educate, not to generate revenue.

[@MicahThomason]

"you can't really do anything about..." Or, like Steve said, you could put driver's ed back in the schools so young people learn to drive!

[@rogergeyer9851]

@@inthesun3884: Unless things have changed, no fault is only for injuries, to keep from tying up the courts too much for minor injury accidents. From the informal checking I just did online, that still seems to be the case, re several sources. So I'm not so sure you have any idea what you're talking about.

[@kayw9274]

Protection is preventative. A dashcam cannot prevent anything, it only records what takes place. A video of who is at fault for an accident won't do diddly if you are dead.

[@DarkPesco]

I took Driver's Ed at 15. Oddly enough I had already had my driver's license since I was 13. In my state at the time we could get a full driver's license for a motorcycle that was 100cc or smaller at the age of 13. I did have one so I was driving my motorcycle to school starting the second half of my 7th grade year. That freedom at that age was awesome!

[@lamplighter5545]

I took Driver's Ed in 1972, in NY, when is was 16. At that time Driver's Ed wasn't required, but there were a couple of big perks. I got a break on my insurance. (Actually it was my parents that got the break.) And, I could get an unrestricted (senior) license at 17 instead of 18. My parents also required it. To this day, I'm grateful. I had a great instructor. He taught us so much more than how to pass the driving test -- scanning with your eyes, looking ahead, thinking ahead, how to merge and, on our last day, how to check fluids and change a tire -- even the girls. Trust me, in 1972, H.S. girls did not change tires.

[@sparrowgarden1401]

Our drivers ed teacher taught all of us girls to change a tire. We actually had to do it. He did not allow the boys at the class that day. He even taught us how to get the hard nuts off by standing on the wrench. We had to check the fluids too. I learned so many little tricks and preventative safe driving skills. I could never figure out why they stopped teaching drivers ed in school. To this day I check my mirrors when I get in the car and constantly watch the mirrors while I am driving in order to be aware of my surroundings. Anticipating someone else's idiot move while driving has saved me and my family more than I care to think about. This is part of what I was taught by our amazing drivers' ed teacher.

[@jennifer9528]

@lamplighter5545: "Trust me, in 1972, H.S. girls did not change tires." Trust me, many did. Some even operated tractors and also serviced them. That said, how many H.S. boys did you see cook and sew in 1972? Oh, and I also took driver's ed in high school (during the regular school year) and got my license at age 16 in upstate NY. I had full driving privileges due to the fact I didn't live/drive in NYC.

[@lamplighter5545]

@@jennifer9528 -- I grew up in NYC. We didn't have tractors. And, really, girls down here didn't go in for auto mechanics. Not then anyway. As far as boys cooking and sewing, it was definitely rare. (the boys took Shop and the girls took Home Economics.) I could do both some. My mother was very at both, but she worked, so if I wanted my pants hemmed, it was up to me. My friend next door became a chef.

[@lamplighter5545]

@@sparrowgarden1401 -- These were important skills to have. I know someone that blew the engine on his first car because he dutifully checked the transmission fluid with every fill-up when he thought he's was checking the oil. BTW, the girls all wore pants that day. I'm pretty sure, my 16-year old self was a little disappointed.

[@rogergeyer9851]

@@lamplighter5545: My mother forced me to do one needlepoint project, and that was PLENTY of sewing for me. Of course later, I couldn't even sew on a button competently, so that was my loss. But my girlfriend did that, and I did her taxes, etc. Barter. Sometimes the very old tech. is the most versatile.

[@DeliciousBoi]

Agreed. My control-obsessed family succeeded in keeping me from learning to drive well into my 20's, chasing off anyone who dared to try to teach me privately and harassing any driving school I signed up for until they dropped me. If I had had to pass Drivers Ed as a requirement to pass highschool, they couldn't have done what they did to me.

[@rogergeyer9851]

So you were living at home well into your 20's? That's on you.

[@DeliciousBoi]

@@rogergeyer9851 The term you're looking for is "taking care of my elderly mom as her health was failing". With your attitude I wouldn't be surprised to find out that's a completely foreign concept to you.

[@squidbad]

@@rogergeyer9851 If his family was going out of their way to prevent him from progressing his life, it is a reasonable assumption that they have done it his whole childhood. Its not easy to move out without life skills that your family is supposed to teach you. If they have hindered him, there is forced reliance.

[@tarrantwolf]

​@DeliciousBoi if she was the one that was that controlling her "care" would have left more than a little to be desired.

[@MrBitflipper]

When I was in HS in the 60's, Driver's Ed was offered for a low cost ($10 irrc) but was not a requirement. However, it was far and away the most popular elective and almost everyone signed up for it. The big motivation was that passing Driver's Ed qualified us to get a driver's license a year early, so I was the proud owner of a real license at age 15. Included in the course was a slide show of horrific accidents, taken by the State Patrol. No blurred out photos. Brains and guts and all, and the photographer gave the backstories behind each accident. That's another practice we should bring back. All these years later those images still remain burned into my memory and have made me a more cautious driver.

[@rogergeyer9851]

We saw LOTS of gruesome videos in various classes (like Health / PE) re drunk drivers. And that was mandatory. Not that most teenage boys paid much attention (I did - data is data), but at least they tried, whether you took driver's ed or not. This was the mid 70's HS for me.

[@alsaunders7805]

I graduated in 1981. In my state insurance companies offered a discount for new drivers if they had proof of successful completion of a drivers Ed course. That was the incentive here. 🤔🤓🍻

[@robertsmith2956]

I think it was the hunting classes, and the Shoot don't shoot flash cards that help the most. It makes you view the road the same way. Safe, Not Safe.

[@2004RADMAN]

I agree with you Steve. Dr Ed is very necessary for good drivers.

[@gcanada3005]

Why do many US states pay teachers so poorly and are ecstatic about it

[@davidedgar2818]

I remember taking drivers ed in high school. Cars were provided by a local car dealer, it helped introduce the new drivers to that brand. The course was a regular class that had school credits. I can say that the course instuctor was excellent. I still apply the defensive diving techniques currently. I know people personally that have many bad driving habits. When I inquire if they took drivers ed, invariably they didn't take a class. There is huge benefit to society in future cost savings that make school run classes a great investment. Thanks Steve for covering this topic.✨

[@chriss-nf1bd]

I remember a short film called "Death on the Highway".

[@nolongeramused8135]

Here in the Seattle area there are a massive number of fraudulent driving schools that cater to, mostly, Chinese immigrants. A big part of the problem is, or at least was, that the translator would accompany them in for the written part of the exam and actually fill it out for them (for an extra cash fee, of course). "Driving While Asian" is still a major cause of vehicle collisions - they tend to be absolutely horrible as they either can't read the road signs or, even worse, just consider them to be suggestions to be ignored whenever convenient. The amount of insane risk taking and just being an inconsiderate asshole is crazy. And it isn't the kids, it's their parents who just arrived in country and got their first vehicle. This proposed law isn't going to do diddly about those drivers - what they need to do is crack down on the private driving schools that "pass" these incompetents.

[@callak_9974]

I can understand driving schools to teach, but doesn't the state regulate who has a license? A written exam is 1 thing, but there's no in on the road test that they are required to pass that's done by the government?

[@Subject_Keter]

All i got to say is, go look up videos of how they drivein china.

[@rhetorical1488]

North of the border in Vancouver same issue. It used to be worse. the Mainlanders came over on international license and had 6 months to get a local one. .....except they go back to "visit" and the process resets. they never get a local license.

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

Insane they let translators take the test with them. If they can't read and speak english, they can't drive. Simple.

[@aaadamt964]

Look up in the cab of semi trucks when you're driving down the freeway and let me know why we have so many 18 wheeler accidents. Reading and speaking English should be a requirement to drive here. Especially with a CDL.

[@fretworkband3204]

I have been in driver education for over 40 years. I’ve taught in two states…Ohio and currently Texas. All in private schools. In Ohio, at the time (ca. 1980) the state subsidized one-half of the cost. The requirements were 8 hours of classroom and 8 hours of driving (2 hour blocks). Most of my students lived in the country and had experience with farm machinery (i.e. tractors). They picked up the basics fairly quickly and if I saw that they were struggling, I would make them practice for weeks, if necessary, to get to a satisfactory level. Still, I felt that most could’ve used more classroom time + driving. In Texas, 32 hours of classroom + 7 hours driving + 7 hours observation are necessary for 15-17 year olds. 18-24 just need 6 hours of classroom. The 15-17 year olds also are required to log 30 hours with a parent and hold their permit for at least 6 months. But since 1995 parent taught driver education was adopted by the legislature. Meaning any parent could teach their son or daughter how to drive. This has had mixed results in Texas. And studies from Texas A&M have shown that there are greater crash rates among parent taught vs. school taught (whether high school or private commercial). Also multiple national companies have Internet courses “assisting” parents with the classroom and in car with virtually no oversight. Which means a parent, who may not be very conscientious, could simply sign off on the 44 hours of drive time, take the teen to the local DPS, pass the fairly easy road test and turn that teen loose on the roadways. Unfortunately, we can’t turn back the clock and go back to the way it used to be. Back in the day, car dealers gladly offered their cars to be used as DE vehicles, because it gave them exposure to the community and hopefully made a few sales. Of course cars were less costly then and people weren’t quite as litigious. Now, the average price of a vehicle is $20-$30k ( or more) and insurance for a program at your local high school is cost prohibitive. So what can be done? A number of things including: Placing all driver education schools (whether high school or commercial) under the state education agency and authority and pulling licenses if they aren’t doing an adequate job; Requiring all driver education teachers to have at least 9 semester hours in a local college (community or state university) or the equivalent in clock hours (135 hours). This will filter out the people that get into the industry for a quick buck. And lastly, if parent taught stays in effect, to make sure that all new drivers, 16-24, are evaluated by a professional before being issued a license. This would be an objective test of skills instead of allowing an indifferent parent to bypass the requirements and unwittingly place their teen into a very dangerous driving environment. Also Steve, should you wish to discuss this further, I would be more than happy to. Regardless, thanks for bringing this to the public’s attention because its importance has been buried too long.

[@truthsRsung]

How many of those student rode around in cars with a Licensed Driver for 15 years? Should I believe that the Parents of these children have no responsibility at all to Educate their Children?

[@Fetecheney]

Thanks for taking time to share your opinion and experience!

[@konnorj6442]

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[@fretworkband3204]

@@truthsRsung Probably 100 percent. But rare that they observed what was going on around the vehicle as the parent drove. However, whether the parent realized it or not, how they drove, reacted to other drivers, et al, was recorded in their memories. And unfortunately, some turned out just as bad a driver as Mom or Dad. Regardless, it’s important for Mom and/or Dad to practice with their teen and reinforce what they’ve been taught by a professional. It’s a team approach to turn the teen into a good, safe novice driver. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@fretworkband3204]

@@konnorj6442 A+ for observation. And yes I gave a grade for students that had to sit in the back seat observing others learn to drive. For what it’s worth, I now know how to use the return button on my iPhone. 😉

[@AeroGuy07]

I agree with you 100% on this. I grew up in Indiana and took drivers ed in high school, my kids are going to a private driving school. Side note. I'm almost 53, got my license a month and a day after my 16th birthday, Indiana law at the time. I've only been licensed in two states, Ohio and Indiana, and I've never taken a behind the wheel road test for either state. In Indiana the drivers ed teacher could give you a waiver if he thought you were a good enough driver. Being rural kids, most of my class got the waiver because we knew how to drive long before we set foot in a drivers ed car.

[@bowez9]

Just because you had plenty of practice doesn't mean it was good practice or from good teachers. Movies/TV and parents are horrible driving teachers.

[@funkyzero]

@@bowez9 Growing up in a rural area, many of us were driving basic stuff beginning at 8-10, and even on the public roads by 13-14. We had to navigate a lot of bad conditions and weather and the early introduction was more certainly a head-start. I was driving around a grain truck and all sorts of other vehicles when I was 12-13. It's not "movies and TV". At that age I could take on any adult backing up with 2 pivot steer grain wagons in tandem. You don't learn that from movies.

[@AeroGuy07]

​@@bowez9ok. I made my living as a driver for over 25 years, local delivery mostly and some long distance hot shot deliveries. I've driven about 1.5M miles over the years and I've only had one at fault accident and that was over 20 years ago. Rural kids typically learn to drive farm equipment at an early age, so we generally know the rules of the road better than our urban counterparts. The only thing I learned about driving from TV/movies is that editing and stunts have no resemblance to real world driving. I watched the Duke boys jump their 69 Charger over creeks, but I knew what would happen if I tried to do the same thing in my 72 El Camino. Also, my drivers ed "teacher" was also the boys PE teacher and boys basketball coach. My dad had an SCCA license a couple of racing trophies. So you tell me who the better teacher was.

[@bowez9]

@@AeroGuy07 what most learn from media is over corrections, and from parents all thier bad habits that you think are correct. Obviously I wasn't speaking to you specifically but the general population. Are you saying you have a CDL without professional training ? Rural kids learn that mistakes dont have repercussions or don't drive in the city due to speed and congestion. I have lived in rural AR for more than a decade and my parents are from rural KY. My parents actually learned to drive in W.Germany were you must actually know how to drive to get a license, must get a 297 out of 300 question to pass the written. My teacher was professional driving instructor for over 20 years at the time, and worked for CDL instruction school. So you tell me. Professional PE coach vs Professional driver...

[@rmiller334]

Same here

[@SeeTwittyTV]

My local high school only had driver’s ed for the written test, and NJ had just switched to the graduated driver’s license thing the year I passed my written test. This made it mandatory to attend driving school on your own dime and $300-400 was well out of my Kmart minimum wage price range in 2005. Fast forward to many years later, and I still haven’t learned how to drive at 34 😂

[@robertsmith2956]

What makes no sense is they DON'T test in bad weather. You would think if they can drive in a blizzard, then you know they can drive. That should be when you test them.

[@hushpuppy3]

Not only Drivers Ed, but I also believe that schools nationwide should also implement a class on basic banking. While writing checks is fading away, everyone should understand the basics of how to reconcile a checking account, and also how to use credit responsibly.

[@scottweisel3640]

I’ve often wondered why this was never taught in school. Who cares about Advanced Literature if you can’t balance a checkbook, or understand how loans and interest work?

[@hushpuppy3]

@@TimRockIt I was in high school in the 90s, and I only learned it in Accounting class. If you didn't take Accounting.....

[@MishaMishaSoprano]

All part of the design. It is preferred that people remain in debt. We are expected to be good, little consumers.

[@sciguy98]

My high school taugh this, but it was kinda hidden. It was part of our Applications of Computer Technology class, which wqs an elective where they taught you how to use computers. But 90% of the exercises and projects were about banking or resume writing or researching apartments or budgeting, etc. It was all the basic life skills stuff people want, but you had to use a computer (in reality, Microsoft Office) to do it.

[@robertsmith2956]

If you did that you wouldn't get suckered into a student loan for your gay history degree.

[@lancecluster]

Agreed. Many of the drivers ed places around us seem to be fly by night operations that appear and disappear all the time. My now 30 year old daughter, still remembers her first time driving with the local "driving instructor" who spent the ride on the phone yelling at someone on the other end. While now she is a good driver, she ended up needing to use a different driving school after completing the first one as it did not do an acceptable job. Fortunately that firm is now out of business.

[@donparnell309]

My youngest daughter shared her strip mall driving instructor with another student. This other student scared the driving instructor so much, my daughter got 90 percent of the behind the wheel time instead of the 50 percent. The other student still received a certificate of completion.

[@lindaward3156]

I remembered driver's ed in school for as long as I was in school. I have a CDL and so have been on the roads more often than your average person. I started driving school bus in 1979 & drove one off/on for decades. If you want a bird's eye view of idiot drivers, drive one! However, the poor divers in '79 were minimal compared to today. I couldn't explain to myself why, but I sure witnessed it. I see KZbin videos where so very many don't even carry their license with them, a very basic requirement. How do they not know that? And the cops don't really seem to care & don't charge them, even when it's because they *aren't* actually licensed! I want the people that are operating a multi-ton weapon to be educated, trained & licensed. You wouldn't get in a plane with an unlicensed pilot. Some things are not negotiable, this is one of them.

[@IMRROcom]

When I went to school Drivers ED was part of High School. It was a class we all had to take our Junior Year. We had simulators etc.

[@teajaydc4484]

I also took drivers ed in high school. One of the things we were taught, that is likely not taught at private driving schools is driver courtesy. This goes a long way toward avoiding accidents.

[@YTRulesFromNM]

I was in an 'accident' no long ago where I was hit simply because she felt I was in her way. She destroyed both of our cars and put herself in the hospital.

[@rogergeyer9851]

@@YTRulesFromNM: It makes you wonder how such people manage to SURVIVE. Seriously. I have yelled at people for going the wrong way, for example, letting them know they're wrong and screwing things up. But yelling (parking lot, windows down) did the trick just fine -- no ramming speed or any speed at all required. My favorite is teens running into me while standing in line at a red light, due to texting vs. looking while driving. I think they ought to give people MASSIVE fines for that.

[@44hawk28]

I still remember going out and paying for my driver's ed during a summer because I wanted to do other studies. And aside from that my father had already taught me to drive starting when I was about 8 years old when we still lived in Florida. He was a Pursuit instructor for the Orlando Police Department. So I had plenty of time to have the wheel he had taught me a lot of things about turning radius and braking distances and a lot of detailed information that I at age 12, read through in his accident investigation manuals. I even learned how to determine the speed of a car if you witness it by timing how many feet it goes, with a mathematical constant of 1.47 to 1. At 60 mph, you're going 88 ft per second. I followed that up some years later, up here in michigan, I was discussing a change that Michigan wanted to make with my state senator Douglas Carl. They were wanting to Force students to take driver's ed add an older age because some kids have been killed in a really ridiculous stunt they had pulled and gotten themselves killed doing stupid things on the roadway. I made a point to him to say that they should not make them learn later, they should teach kids to drive earlier. I would actually be a proponent of teaching them in junior high, when they're about 12 or 13 years old before they know every damn thing. And before their hormones are causing real problems with their thinking apparatus. The bump between the shoulders, as it were. I also asked him if I could get a copy of Motor Vehicle Code because you could not get one easily through the Secretary of State's office at the time. He actually had his staff put together for me a motor vehicle code and quite a few pertinent procedures of the state of michigan, which has been invaluable to me. I have been ticketed several times for things that are perfectly legal. And I've taken that motor vehicle code to the court with me and shown that they were perfectly legal. Such things as going around on the right of a car that's making her about to make a left turn on the shoulder of the road is specifically allowed in motor vehicle code. Because when a vehicle is making her about to make left turn it is not continuing on down the roadway. Because it is not continuing on down the roadway you are not passing it you are abating a traffic obstruction. The implied definition in Motor Vehicle Code of passing is passing a vehicle that is continuing on down the roadway and you're supposed to do that on the left side of them, not on the right side. And I do agree with you about the fact that it should be in schools and that everybody should have some sort of a classroom environment, which I paid for on my own because I did not want it interfering with other studies I was doing. I was taking about 35 credit hours per year cuz I wanted to graduate a year early, and then my school decided to force me to wait an extra year to take my two classes that senior classes and I had to wait till I was in that year to take them. So when I did take them, I was only there for 15 credit hours and they told me I couldn't stay in day school if I was only taking that many classes. This was my high school counselor who is telling me this garbage. And I advised him, while he was studying for the bar exam and wanted to become a lawyer, that it was he who told me I couldn't take these classes the year before, making me take an extra year of school for no reason but that he was a jackass. And then I was not going to sign up for extra classes because he was a moron. We had no further discussions of it. And a few weeks later I transferred over from Osborne High School in Detroit to Denby, and found that Denby HS was a far better school. The supervision at that school was far less attitudinal.

[@robertsmith2956]

I was taking the popo class for bad drivers, and told the cop he is wrong when he said you can't stop a car in 30 ft at 45mph. I stopped my car in 15 feet at 75mph. Loved him walking around asking us to rate ourselves 1-10. People would give high numbers, and he would jump on them, What are you doing here then? and they would lower it. I told him TEN. When he tried his spiel, I told him, I was SPEEDING, and smiled. I was NOT driving unsafe.

[@zarkruzam3090]

I did my driver's ed the same way you did, Steve, through my H.S. during the summertime. The lack of driver's ed nowadays is one reason why people are stupid on the road.

[@jameslongest6410]

I grew up in a rural/farming community and started driving stuff at 11 years under my father's watchful eye. I took driver's education in high school. The classroom part was a regular scheduled class during school hours but the actual driving portion occurred after normal school hours. We were all eager to do the after hours portion because if we behaved we got some perks like stopping for snacks. We also got to drive ourselves home. Of course, if we acted up behind the wheel, our teacher would have a word with our parents about it right then and there in their own front yard. Not a pleasant experience if it ever happened . When I completed the course and turned 15 and 8 months my father went down to the county courthouse and we stood before the local judge who gave us all a talk about the privileges and responsibility a license comes with. He reminded us that, as a judge, the results of foolish behavior behind the wheel often brought people back before his court or worse, a hospital or morgue. He asked us as new drivers and the older drivers/parents in attendance to drive responsibility and with due respect for others on the road. Happily, I can say that I never had to appear in his or any other judges court in the many years since that day.

[@e.jameszettlemoyer3819]

When I was in High School Driver's Education was required. Actual driving with an instructor was elective. I remember watching vivid horrific accident movies. At 16 I still drove like an idiot until I got so many tickets I had to take a class to keep my license. That class had a profound effect on improving my driving at age 18. I think we should have to 4 hours of continued education every 5 years. Laws change, driving habits change and we need to be reminded of the responsibility we undertake when we sit behind the wheel.

[@chriss-nf1bd]

Not only that. But civics should be put back into school.

[@DG-wu7ke]

It's time to mandate many educational requirements. Civics should be all year for all 4yrs of HS

[@IHateThisHandleSystem]

That, and basic economics

[@janeysiegrist5061]

Middle school too😊

[@RideFree1]

American History... especially the years from 1620 to 1815. It is not about memorizing dates but understanding where our roots are. Why we have a Constitution & Bill of Rights. Why the pilgrims left England and sailed to Plymouth. Why did we have a Revolution? Understanding Privacy, Freedom, & Liberty.

[@Subject_Keter]

Civics is boring, we need to teach them teachers on how to teach instead of performing soul aiphon wrong.

[@Whole_Leash_It]

My teenage kids have zero interest in driving cars as with all of their friends. The initial cost of the car, gas, insurance, maintenance, repairs, upkeep and parking costs deter them from taking any interest in getting a car and their licenses. They all see it as a grand waste of money. Meanwhile jobs, schools, and housing are valued at how close to they are to public transportation. I have to admit, when I was their age (early 1990's) I could get a full time job for the summer and earn enough to buy a car good running car, which I did. You would have to work 3-4 summers to barely afford and car that needs a lot of work.

[@spicybrown75]

I wholeheartedly agree with you. My oldest drives but her insurance is so expensive. She was in a rollover accident no fault of her own, definitely not able to buy another car and insurance. My teenager has absolutely no interest in learning to drive. She's happy to be a passenger princess 😂

[@TheWBWoman]

Agreed! Private driver's ed lessons are so expensive. Poor kids cannot afford to get their driver's licenses which can limit their opportunities. I was shocked that my kid's school didn't offer it.

[@michaelmeszaros6982]

In 1970, Mr. Lahey taught me driver's-ed at Neptune High school in New Jersey. I still have the certificate I received and will ALWAYS remember 2 things he taught us. 1. Never turn your wheels while stationary as you will create flat spots on your tires. 2. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS look over your shoulder before changing lanes, as mirrors have blind spots in them. I received discounts on my car insurance for many years by taking the class. Thanx, Mr. Lahey. RockOn, Steve.

[@sg8953]

Agreed. In the 80s when my sister was in high school, driver's ed was an elective at school and it was free. By the 90s when I was in high school, it was only available as an extra-curricular and very expensive. So I taught myself how to drive while my dad fell asleep in the passenger seat after working double shifts. Let's just say my sister was a FAR better driver.

[@kenyattaclay7666]

I went to high school in the 80’s & drivers ed wasn’t offered. I had to pay to take it somewhere else. Having drivers ed in that 80’s was a mixed bag at best & not standard.

[@RideFree1]

Drivers ED was NOT Free. The Taxpayers paid for the classes. Nothing from the Government is FREE. The money was Forced from someones pockets.

[@callak_9974]

@@RideFree1 True, but probably better that they taught by an instructor that isn't as beholden to your direct money. And if it lowers accidents, there's less taxpayer money being spent on police/fire fighters/ambulances that have to deal with the aftermath. Of course it wouldn't stop all of it, but it overall should make the roads safer.

[@nbrown5907]

Teaching young people the ways of how things work is a good thing we all should support. I would chip in more for bringing back civics classes and I have no kids.

[@davidconner-shover51]

Here's another one for ya. The state of Colorado lowered the price of a drivers license by $5. but they removed all the eye testing equipment. you are now required to pay for an eye exam by an optometrist. While I no longer have 20/20 vision, it is plenty good enough to drive on, better than 20/30 I just had to pay an extra $200 and wait 3 months for an appointment to visit an optometrist, who then, after signing the paperwork, proceeded to try to sell me crap. this just raised the price of obtaining a driver's license by 667% for 5 years

[@Bobs-Wrigles5555]

Ben offering up his rear end to Low Flying Owls, Steve's RHS high

[@user-no1cares]

Light speed from Michigan to California & back beat out light speed Queensland to Michigan & back. G’nite Bob.

[@sweetsuccesstrading5097]

They Can’t even Teach them Math,Reading and Writing in Public Schools. Can you Imagine how Many More Stupid Drivers will be on the Road after That!?

[@marvin2488]

Couldn’t agree more Steve you are the man.

[@tomwright7155]

Steve, I absolutely agree, I had that drivers ed class in High School all the way back in 1990. It was a good system that just about everyone took, and if anything it should have been longer with more driving instruction. As you mentioned the instructors were a few of the teachers and the school had cars in some kind of partnership with a local dealer. The cost couldn’t have been very much relatively speaking. Surely less that the cost of injury and property damage from poor driving.

[@seamripper0000]

So in Colorado the DMV doesn't even test anymore. You pay a driving school to test you. And in northern colorado the driving schools are scamming people. If you dont pay for driving school they automatically fail you till you pay multiple times. Some horror stories ive heard are private driving schools taking students to target leaving them in the car while the instructor shops. My son took his test this am, passed with flying colors, but i tought him, ive driven more than a million miles though. I felt far more qualified than the poorly paid instructors. I take driving and defensive driving very seriously, i restudied the driving book, wached countless videos myself and with my son, and my son spent over 50 hours actually driving with me next to him. We also waited until my son was 21 to learn, because driving is serious business, you can kill someone. We also spent all this time on city/highway driving and haven't even started interstate driving. I'll teach him that after he has more experience. Because I know how bad the driving is these days, and at 75mph an crash is going to be life changing. Btw, there is no such thing as an accident, it's a crash, and someone/something is always at fault. I understand most people wont do this, so driving in schools is a good idea as long as the kids get sufficient behind the wheel training. The driving schools here give you 5-6 hours behind the wheel, most is classroom time or riding with other students. When they are actually driving and not sitting in a parking lot! Lastly, during my research Washington state is the hardest state to pass a driving test. South Dakota is the easiest.

[@terriyoung2389]

Drivers education was required in high school when I attended. I swear you learn more about critical thinking during a semester of drivers education/simulation than you do in any other class.

[@freethebirds3578]

It was required where I grew up too. You needed it to graduate. This was a problem for a guy I knew. The school ruled that because of his disabilities, he couldn't drive and couldn't take drivers' ed, so he couldn't get his HS diploma. He could drive despite his physical disabilities--he grew up on a farm and drove equipment all the time. He had to fight the school for drivers ed and his diploma.

[@lilsuzq32]

Ben Hundo's on the wall, upper left, with the Low Flying Owls (behind the upper right corner of the YuTube award)

[@jamslam5641]

I disagree. I passed my driving tests without taking driver's ed. I think it's something you can do on your own or online without the government paying for it. Most of the deaths occur due to speeding and drunk driving, which has nothing to do with driver's ed.

[@ForumArcade]

I have a small issue with some of the points you raised. It does not invalidate the essence of the video. I am autistic. I took driver's ed in school. I discovered that I was largely incapable of handling the stress of driving on the road around other people, to the point where I almost went catatonic. Based on that experience, I have concluded that, far from it being necessary that I have a car and drive, it would be IRRESPONSIBLE of me to attempt to do so. Some of us, regardless of the availability or lack thereof of public transportation, face this reality.

[@steveladner4346]

Gun use and safety needs to be taught in grade schools. I grew up with loaded 6uns behind every door. It was a completely safe environment.

[@theodoreolson8529]

Yea the good old days when the NRA just taught gun safety.

[@RoseKindred]

I agree. I learned early on in the Church group. Taught me more respect for them. And no, it was not "that type" of a group. It was like the Cub Scouts.

[@AeroGuy07]

Yep, I knew where every gun in the house was and which ones were ready to use and which ones weren't.

[@user-no1cares]

I was taught gun safety in high school ROTC in Texas where the school had an indoor firing range. ROTC & Driver’s Ed were electives & I never took Driver’s Ed. The Army taught me to drive in a 2.5 ton like the one Steve used to own. Safety is so often a matter of teaching skills & wisdom to youngsters. I hate the word mandatory, but….

[@chriss-nf1bd]

The guy that gave me my drivers test was 6'5". The car was my girlfriends 67 MG Midget with convertible hardtop. His head was out the window and knees in his chest. Is size 14 feet didn't fit in the box that was there for the feet. He looked for a way to fail me and couldn't and I had to open the door and help him get out when we were done. His co workers were laughing so far. That sherif was so humiliated that day... LOL

[@triciaarnold5555]

I agree with you 100% on this! People need to be educated on how to drive safely!

[@lazyj616]

When I took Drivers Ed in Michigan, I'm 72 years old, it was a regular class during the school Year. It lasted one semester. It was great to actually learn something well I've never had a major accident. Or any accident for that matter.

[@dongrant5827]

All drivers should be required to ride along in a full size truck; semi or straight truck, as part of the curriculum. That way they can experience first hand how misbehaving on the road can have horrible consequences.

[@petergerdes1094]

If we want to make the roads safer then we should make the tests harder. Demanding people take drivers ed for licenses below a certain age seems problematic for a number of reasons: 1) What about college students who move into the state after HS? Are they exempt? If not how do they reasonably take the class? 2) It doesn't necessarily seem desierable for the government to encourage driving. I can drive but my wife and I don't own a car (even in Indiana) and it seems desierable that the government not encourage people learning to drive of they can do without. 3) Merely passing a course doesn't offer the same kind of benefits as creating a high standard driving test as they have in much of Europe that everyone who wants a license needs to take.

[@denniscrannie1126]

My school had driving simulator films from the 1960s in the mid. 70s. It was fun to see the low gas prices in the movies. The simulator was a farce because you could drive your "car" as you wished with no effect on the car shown on the main screen.

[@macplus3339]

Parent taught drivers education needs to go. Why? How many parents want their kids to fail? On that note:.. How many parents are going fail their kids? I personally know of several moms actually take the online portion for their child while the kid is in school. They know all the information the test asks to "verify" that the child is the one sitting at the computer. I have personally have watched a student google the correct answer.

[@dudesmithman]

I would have gone through with driver's ed provided through school but my mom couldnt afford the 600 dollar fee. Make it mandatory and free or cheaper.

[@billalumni7760]

Not all education is worth it. If it were then we would not have people with degrees and student loans they have a hard time paying back. I agree driver's ed should be publicly funded but please don't say that "all" education is a good thing. That is total BS.

[@stalbaum]

Privatization was a disaster, made less disastrous by car safety regulation. But auto manufacturing safety laws (starting with seatbelts) did also raise the price of cars. So if you are whining about tax dollars to educate young drivers, recall your insurance rates.

[@emilyfeagin2673]

I agree 110%. I’m childless but, I don’t mind paying taxes for education

[@jenniferbrunson8671]

I took driver’s ed in school in the 70’s. It was part of the curriculum. When they changed it they only hurt poor people.

[@Bludduck]

I agree with you 100% most kids today cannot read cursive writing or how to tell time on a analog clock, SAD

[@TheMadManPlace]

Hi Steve Do you know all the training and studying yo have to comply with in Finland? That is why there are so many Fins in the top of the various motor sports.

[@workingshlub8861]

public schools are a joke in my view and it irritates me even though i have no kids...do schools even teach civics anymore???

[@chrisc6015]

I completely agree with Steve. When I was in High School, first there was a semester driver’s education class in a regular classroom. We watched films and took tests. Then in summer school I took the actual driving class. We actually drove on the road; four student and a teacher in the car with a drivers training sign on top. I loved it! We drove all over the place. To the ocean, through the hills and countryside, and our teacher was so cool and fun

[@MrJojomylove]

Agreed, i did driver ed back in highschool, we didnt have to parelle park anymore but it was fun and really helped

[@manbunmyname5866]

2:30 Because You're Sharing The Road With Them!!! 🤣🤣

[@Vicos]

Been saying this for years. Drivers Ed was a mandatory class in my high school in Penna.

[@whimsicallychrissy]

Driver's ed should be required for anyone who has never had a license/permit as well.

[@iankester-haney3315]

They ought to make all drivers go through drivers education classes.

[@kirke420]

I'll challenge your "old guy in the room" status by saying: I didn't realize that they stopped teaching Drivers Ed in school!

[@SilverWatcher.]

In california you don't need to be American or speak English or read English, as of now california with absolutely no tests are giving illegal immigrants free california drivers license of course at the expense of the tax payers. 😅😂

[@nopenoperson9118]

Nah we gotta confuse the students to the point they can't even figure out what's in their pants, that's more important.

[@scotttravels517]

My sister said it like $1200 plus cost to book appointments

[@adriaandeleeuw8339]

Drivers Ed will lower accidents and therefor insurance

[@scifichikiescar]

I agree! I’m 43 and when I was a freshman our school didn’t offer drivers Ed. However because so many of us freshmen requested the class they tapped two of our coaches to teach drivers Ed. They offered it during 2 periods at first, then it was offered in 4 separate periods for the remaining years the school stayed operational. We even got one credit for the class. It was a blessing for me and several of my classmates because our parents were over anxious and terrible at keep us calm enough to handle driving. Our coaches though were amazingly patient and gave excellent tips.

[@slimsycentaur37]

I agree but also believe anyone over 60 should have to retake it as well.

[@larryl43]

everyone should take gun safety courses in high school

[@captcorajus]

Driver's Ed was a night class. There were computer 'cars' and we watched a move, that simulated driving and you turned and did your turn signal.. avoided hitting a little girl with a ball rolling in the road, etc. You got a grede, and if you passed you could get your learner's.