MLB's Biggest Bust Is Getting Out Of Hand

MLB's Biggest Bust Is Getting Out Of Hand
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[@iTalkStudios]

Do you agree that the Detroit Tigers should send Javier Baez to the Guong Dong Tigers?

[@Jimmy-the-hampter.12]

Yesn’t anyways I got the poll right 🤟😎🔥🔥🔥

[@Jimmy-the-hampter.12]

@98.327Yesn’t

[@CommentConqueror]

Yes those tigers are more his speed. Baez is what you get when you go shopping for what you want but what you're after isn't in stock.

[@fatssalvador9140]

Pay 70 million and ship him ANYWHERE

[@jimjames6990]

Bryant is still WORSE

[@christendo5733]

At what point does Baez finally start asking himself "maybe swinging at every damn pitch just isn't working out"?

[@tommyfu9271]

as long as the money keeps hitting his bank account never

[@wingracer1614]

Swinging at every pitch gets him off the field quicker. Now all he has to do is fake an injury and he can sit at home while collecting all that dough

[@otgbaby4615]

It got him over 100 mill, I think it’s working just fine.

[@DionysusAlS]

His strikeout rate is actually lower with the Tigers compared to the Cubs, according to Baseball Reference. But his hard hit rate has fallen off considerably. When he was in Chicago, he would mash the ball... when he didn't strike out, that is.

[@MichaelHawkins-yd6ge]

Cant teach old dog new tricks this is who he was when he was getting mvp votes and he hasnt changed

[@jimc.goodfellas]

Javy Baez has over 1000 more strikeouts than walks in his career....let that sink in

[@goldlion9066]

There's no sink here wdym

[@BrutusJrThe3rd]

That’s insane. Idk what happened to buddy

[@Denozo88]

​@nomercyinc6783 the stats don't mean shit on their own but their indicative of how your performing.

[@Brah42]

That's unbelievable.

[@lw3764]

He drew walks so infrequently that Cubs announcers were like, "Oh wow!" when he'd get a walk.

[@paulhampel8084]

Javier Baez is married to the low and away pitch. I mean he is ten kids and a farm married to swinging at the low and away anything.

[@dalhousiekid]

🤣👍

[@danielwallsten332]

Yea I noticed the same thing throughout this vid. It’s always a curve or breaking pitch low and on the outside part of the plate

[@johnjost4033]

Award winning comment 😂😂😂😂

[@RandallBalls]

I think you meant to say Nick Castellanos, signed abPhillies fan

[@samcotten2485]

People identifying this as an award winning comment have no clue 😂 I understand the point, but reading this out loud makes it completely incomprehensible. Put a few more words in there lad

[@jameszetterman4487]

As a Cubs fan, it really hurts to see so much of the 2016 core struggle this much. I guess I'm glad we let them all go, but I would have enjoyed seeing them succeed at least a bit on other teams.

[@waffles2waffles]

Same. I feel bad for him as I still see him in his Cubs jersey, but the worse he and the other 2016 players play, the better letting them go looks for Chicago.

[@Sicaughtik]

Same. Javy was my favorite Cub for like 3 years in a row. I watched him develop all the way from 2A ball and told my mom how he was gonna be a star before he even hit triple A. Before she passed in 2018 (thank god she lived to see them win it all) one of the last things she said to me was "you were sure right about Javy." I'll never forget that and it makes it even sadder to see him turn into this.

[@user-sx9ds6dk7c]

We'll always have 1-0 over the Giants in the playoffs. Solo home run by Javy Baez.

[@ZombieKid-.-]

As a White Sox fan, I can't laugh any harder 😂 Cub fans acted like they were gonna easily three peat after needing 7 games and 10 innings to beat the Indians lol😢

[@jameszetterman4487]

@@ZombieKid-.- Imma let that slide because I know you're struggling right now.

[@TheGOOFYLAUGHS]

I was at a tigers game a couple of weeks ago and had a vendor throw me a bag of peanuts. Baez swung at it and struck out. Edit: I will say even though Baez is just awful at the plate, his defense is top tier and he is an animal on the base path. He might not be anywhere worth his contract but he really does make some highlight reel plays at short that I think one maybe two other SS would be able to make. Credit where credit is due.

[@username-kn3oh]

😂😂😂

[@dvbagnasco]

This is great

[@user-xi5qt7zs5w]

great joke :)

[@marktaronji4694]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidburke9596]

The throw must have been low & outside.

[@iamsithazagoth3728]

Javier Baez knows the strike zone as well as Angel Hernandez.

[@lightechoes]

Ouch. 😂

[@wolftanktreads9085]

That’s why he’s swinging, angel would call it a strike anyway haha😂

[@NOT_Brian]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chrisuncleahmad]

He’ll always be beloved by Cubs fans for what he did on the North Side, but man the fall has been steep

[@ftb3817]

He was so fun to watch on cubs and so painful to watch on the tigers

[@MCHammer79]

Baez is straight cheeks 😂

[@Mannyr-bu7qv]

It sucks he's so fun to watch when he's on.

[@ftb3817]

@Mannyr-bu7qv he actually since getting booed after hitting his first Homer this year like 4-5 games ago has been one of their better players. Not saying much since they got a bottom 3 offense and small stretch but I hope he can just be close to average and have some flair in big moments again

[@jamesrawlins735]

As a Cardinal fan, we had our own version: David Freeze. We owe him a ton for what he did in 2011 - but outside of that post season in 2018 for the Dodgers never was worth the money he kept asking for.

[@eamonkelley3811]

The curious case of the 2016 Cubs. Most of the players on that team fell off a cliff shortly after that championship.

[@paulwt9783]

That is simply not accurate, no. There is a span of time between the 16 title and all the core position players leaving in free agency. If they had fallen off a cliff right after 2016, they wouldn't have signed massive contracts elsewhere.

[@eamonkelley3811]

The core players didn't leave in free agency they were traded because that young team that won in 16' couldn't maintain their success after 2018.

[@paulwt9783]

@@eamonkelley3811 ? They were traded ahead of leaving in free agency, bc they would have been extremely expensive as a group and the team had no pitching in the system.

[@kevhead1525]

With some guys it seems to be, once you get the money, the drive goes away.

[@brandon-ww3mu]

But to be honest, Baez has never been a superstar. Sure, he is talented defensively and USED to hit some homers, but he was/is always too much of a free swinger with no plate discipline whatsoever. He's never improved

[@astoriacub]

​@@brandon-ww3muwhich was only going to get worse as Baez ages and his bat slows down.

[@billmcg1676]

Rendon is in that club - granted he has had injuries - perennially.

[@jasonfullerton7763]

Bryce Harper proves it doesn't have to be that way.

[@TheScotian82]

Wait spoiling the F out of a guy makes a spoiled F of a guy?? Shocking.

[@yogaflame30]

We should at least acknowledge that Baez is showing us how the average human being would compete against Major League pitching.

[@thebeauchinator]

Not really, most average humans would probably just leave the bat on their shoulder and not swing at pitches a foot out of the strike zone with that much consistency.

[@Sicaughtik]

He's so far from average, that's the crazy part. With the Cubs we watched him make superhuman defensive plays and put up crazy offensive numbers and then it just... stopped. I'm beyond thankful our front office knew when the jig was up but I'm still stunned to see the player he's become. How does it all go so wrong after playing well for years? Did the guy make a limited time deal with the devil?

[@Inktownicon]

@@SicaughtikDetroit sucks the soul out of people. They leave here and do great. They come here and do bad 😂

[@Sicaughtik]

@@Inktownicon I mean, he was definitely in decline before he left Chicago but then he put up decent numbers with the Mets so who knows. I just can't believe how he fell off a cliff when it comes to offense. It's like he's going blind and hiding it from the team looking at some of those pitches he swings at.

[@Inktownicon]

@@Sicaughtik 🤣 yeah he swings for the fences I love Javy tho. But being from Michigan, Detroit teams don't have the best culture excluding the bad boy pistons.

[@unklesalty3732]

The Baez signing is why Al Avila is collecting unemployment. The guy is literally a guaranteed out. I’m still holding out hope Scott Harris can convince Chris Ilitch to buy Baez out.

[@Yahtzee_09]

Al was the only person that wanted Baez and now he's gone. He also passed on drafting multiple shortstops in the last draft he was involved in (took Jackson Jobe) and then passed on all other shortstops available as free agents.

[@robertcampbell8070]

Honestly, Baez might be the LEAST of Avila's mistakes, that's how bad he was.

[@Jack-iu5um]

Scott Harris is too much of a moron himself to do anything good for the org

[@CalebWilliams2030]

If they buy him out, maybe he can go to the Cubs and it might light a fire in his eyes and rekindle past success. Wishful thinking on my part lol.

[@seen48]

As a Mets fan, I did not want to resign him and am so glad we didn’t. Same thing with Carlos Correa. Dodged a few bullets there. Baseball needs to adopt some sort of incentive based payment system. These 6-7-8 year contracts at 20-30 million per year are just ridiculous in my opinion, with zero incentive.

[@bkjustice9390]

Absolutely! If they ever tried that though, the players union would not let it fly. Baseball would literally have to end and then a new league started minus a union. Which might not be a bad idea!!

[@seen48]

@@bkjustice9390 definitely wouldn’t be a bad idea at this point.

[@SDSOne]

Yet so many people did. Unfortunately that trade ends up not working out but it made a lot of sense at the time and he had some big hits for the team. But yes thank goodness they avoided this disaster

[@DemonKingBadger]

I am generally of the opinion more than 5 years is a mistake, albeit with some exceptions

[@brendan9868]

If you need perspective on just how bad Chris Davis’ contract was, he will be making more money retired this year than Gunnar Henderson, Adley Rutschman, Jackson Holliday, Jordan Westburg, Colton Cowser and Grayson Rodriguez combined.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

His struggle is tied to the rise in pitchers with multiple curveballs and not being part of a winning team. Winning hides the mistakes and build confidence. Kris Bryant was also much better when every game was meaningful.

[@Lucky-sh1dm]

Bro KB’s fall off was insane. Genuinely was hyped up as the next Trout Lmfao.

[@nightruler666]

Krys bryant wasnt the same after he got hit in the head

[@greghughes6098]

That's the biggest BS causality loop I've ever seen

[@CalebWilliams2030]

@@nightruler666 I looked it up. Ironically it was the Rockies that did that, for who he plays for now.

[@sickboy703]

At this point why would any pitcher ever throw a strike to him? He'll swing at garbage off the plate.

[@user-pp8fe7ht6n]

Well he walked out once this season so...

[@alwilsonwastheman]

I was wondering why it was so windy here..i just live 3000km away from detroit..finally figured out its the " javier baez swing and a miss effect" .

[@billmcg1676]

Big LOL when you said "teams told Boras to eff himself" - just your tone and delivery - spot on.

[@stillaboveground2470]

I thought Morganna the Kissing Bandit was MLB's biggest bust.

[@bak-mariterry9143]

😆😅🤣

[@cahg3871]

That’s awesome,remember her back in the day,lmao.

[@stillaboveground2470]

@@cahg3871 I remember her front in the day! 😁

[@AS34N]

It's wild. My military buddy and I used to say up late on guard shifts talking about how wild baez was doing and how much of a phenom he was. This was in 17-18...how times have changed for all of us.

[@aidanwow1593]

2:29 Bruh the catcher is setting up behind the LH batter's box. The pitches could've hit an LH batter and Baez still swung at them.

[@ftb3817]

Watch a tigers game it' happens every day man Actually don't watch the tigers none of them can hit super boring

[@cmason87]

and angel hernandez would call it a strike

[@DemonKingBadger]

He pretty much always been that way

[@markeverhart-xu7hh]

Over and over and over . Think dude would learn

[@Eveanator]

The GM that signed him has since rightfully been fired by the Tigers.. Al Avila is possibly the worst GM ever in MLB history. He also traded away Verlander and JD Martinez and got almost nothing in return. Total failure.

[@PeopleRTellingme]

He’s even worse when you consider what he inherited, he took an organization that won the division, or challenged for it every year and turned it into the laughing stock of MLB.

[@DemonKingBadger]

As a Royal fan, I had to deal with 15 years of Herk Robinson and Allard Baird. We essentially traded Jermaine Dye straight up for Neifi Perez during that time

[@Luke7169]

Not often the Cubs get the best years out of a player

[@dennisdezarn5895]

Lou Brock and Greg Maddox agree wholeheartedly. So does Raphael Palmero.

[@heyitswesty]

I'm a Tigers fan. Javy has an OPS+ of 7. Single digits. He's the best defensive shortstop the team has. The only person who could potentially push him out of his job is injured in the minors right now. Say what you will about how bad Javy is -- and he's been awful -- he's the best option the team has at the position right now. Sad to say but there it is.

[@unkledoda420]

Hey his OPS+ was 3 like a week ago, so he's improving....ever so slightly (and slowly). Maybe he can get it up to 50 by the end of the season. 😂

[@robertgordon7983]

Wencell perez could play ss

[@heyitswesty]

@@robertgordon7983 he can't ht. He shouldn't even be up.

[@robertgordon7983]

@@heyitswesty he hit pretty good at aaa. I’d rather take a flyer on him than the garbage Baez has been for the last 3 years

[@RM-pg4js]

Baez was never a SS..his POS is 2nd base..when he started this SS crap?

[@L34VITT]

Pretty sure I could strike out Javier Baez by intentionally throwing my mean 65 mph fastball one foot left of the strike zone every time 🤣

[@Big_Chungus96]

Im a dedicated tigers fan, i look on each brightside i can, even with baez seeming as his glove at SS seems great and he's overall pretty smart on the bases, but it's getting so hard to defend him. I had hopes when he showed up to spring training early because to me it meant he was dedicated to trying to improve for the fans but how is it you can have a whole offseason, hours of clips, with top dollar trainers and you STILL cant hit? I get players get the yips but this is absurd.

[@michaelpagano7819]

What does Baez not swing at omg lol. Those clips. Not even close! 😂

[@trublaze]

Pitches in the zone?

[@fr2ncm9]

Boy the Mets dodged a bullet by not signing him. I remember at the end of his fantastic half season with them, some fans were urging the brass to sign him to a long-term deal.

[@JFred720]

Al Avilla single handely ruined the tigers.

[@nickromo6383]

I’m a cards fan and have seen Baez for years. Dude looked like a flashy hot shot when you have hitters like Bryant, Schwarber, Rizzo, and Contreras to back him up. Literally take the movie signs and “swing away”. Just knew it was a matter of time before the strikeout king was exposed. Sitting here with my popcorn and a smirk. Tigers should have hired me as a consultant.

[@jrm2383]

Brewers fan here. I love watching the Mets, cubs etc. flailing around with enormous payrolls, as the smallest market has made the playoffs consistently the last 6 years

[@SDSOne]

The irony that baseball players get the most absurd contracts but stay on the bench or IL for things that hockey players would call minor annoyances, is obvious and stark. As a NYC fan, listening to radio hosts, and reading articles from writers who speak to the lowest common denominator fan about why Steve Cohen should go and literally burn money on big names , is legitimately funny. Thank goodness fans don't run teams. So easy for them to tell an owner to hand some guy a 8 year 300 mil deal so he can suck by year 3 and get hurt by year 4.

[@cassandranugent2443]

The problem with Baez is the plate discipline. If he could correct that, he’d look more like he did in Chicago. He’s incredible on the defensive end, but at what point does his inability to hit become too much?

[@dalethelander3781]

On the plus side, nobody could punk the Pittsburgh Pirates like Javy Baez. That slick baserunning also gave Jomboy the best and fastest-produced breakdown video ever.

[@SgtPrice1000]

At this point, I'm fully convinced that any one spectator selected at random from the stands and sent up for one at bat would have better plate discipline than Baez. His mind is on a constant setting of "if I see baseball, I swing bat" 😂

[@DemonKingBadger]

I will either walk or strike out looking.

[@titusgroen]

Baez swings at things out of the zone like he’s being played by me in the MLB the Show 😢

[@eddiecruz4521]

Baez doing his best Pedro Cerrano impression 😂😅

[@noahfrizzell2737]

As a Cubs fan I saw a lot of “prime” Baez and I was shocked when he got that deal. He would swing at ANYTHING. There’s a lot of pitchers with better plate discipline

[@edgardbmedia]

Its nuts because he has crazy pop. But that swinging at the invincible ball is just insane. Im happy the Mets didn’t sign him

[@SparJar]

Fans need to try a standing ovation like what seemingly help Trea Turner last year and Lindor this year.

[@Soma2710]

God, as a Cubs fan, watching that compilation of Baez whiffing on breaking balls was painful. Anytime he got down in the count, we all knew what was gonna happen.

[@aye_yo_mick]

As a Cubs fan, it was obvious Baez was an iffy player, and not worth a huge contract. But I could've never imagined he'd perform THIS bad

[@FrayedQube]

I love that he believes the solution to his terrible plate discipline is getting stronger to swing harder at the air

[@iTalkStudios]

Very bold strategy

[@ericheisler5351]

Author doesn’t remember how disasters the Ryan Howard contract was for Philadelphia. Once he tore his Achilles that was it.

[@slyjokerg]

May 17 & 18th... Baez: 7 for 9, 4 doubles, 6 RBIs, 3 runs.

[@josetabora4444]

As a Mets fan, I was so surprised to see Baez drawing walks im his 2nd half of the 2021 season to the point where he actually improved his OPS, OBP, and B. Avg from when he compared to when on the Cubs that season and ended up having a good year. He was the power bat that they needed that year (unfortunately they missed the playoffs), but he just fell WAYY off after that. This needs to be studied.

[@elchancho8432]

Coach Trev said Baez would have a monster year with 40 bombs 😂 Never let him live that down lmao

[@greeneyesms]

Coach was talking about 1 hour after the buffet.

[@DemonKingBadger]

Baez is the type to hit 40 HRs and still hit .180

[@TheLeroy125]

Jesus, that highlights reel of my man Baez taking cuts at balls progressively further and further off the plate was cold. Why you do him like that xD I'm not a tigers fan, or a cubs fan so I'm hoping this is a specifically edited reel of his most egregious fails and not just a reel of consecutive at bats cause if it's just consecutive at bats that would be insane. My man is routinely chopping at balls that would hit a left handed batter. On the bright side he's ready for that angel hernandez strike zone. Noone's gonna catch him looking for strike 3 8 inches off the plate, he was already swinging anyway xD

[@TheScotian82]

Man. Imagine your organization giving these guys HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars, for F ALL. What a deal. Just ridiculous. It needs to stop. Pay them like human beings and charge fans something affordable to go to games..Because treating these guys like gods simply isnt warranted. Never was.

[@markcapestro5390]

The problem isnt Baez. The problem is MLB and its metrics. Watch his swing. While he isnt "stepping into the bucket," his hip is opening up down the 3rd base line. This assures that he will never hit the outside corner pitch and the middle/in pitch will get crushed into foul territory. Stay away from the heart of the plate and you will get an easy out. Also, notice his head. It doesnt stay level thru his swing. Cant hit what u cant see. So how does this tie into metrics? Metrics driven orgs do not care about how many time you strike out. They care about what makes up your average, ie hits 93 mph 4 seam heaters for a double in left-center 10% of all his 4-seamer hits ... but in reality, he got 10 4-seamer hits in 575 ABs in the season.... and if u do the math, he got 1 4-seam double to left center. So people and orgs get wrapped up in these metrics and the next thing you know the guy is striking out 225 times per year. He never hits the ball to all fields anymore. He becomes an easy out. Hes too predictable. JUST DONT THROW IT DOWN THE MIDDLE and hes finished. There will be no more Wade Boggs, Tony Gwynns, Stan Musials, or George Bretts anymore until these metrics have gone away. .... look at the Cardinals org. They are nothing but metrics now... and their model sucks!

[@OilCompany95]

Im glad my prime watching was 20 years ago, when the players played

[@username-kn3oh]

Baez is playing cricket with some of those swings 😂😂😂

[@user-xi5qt7zs5w]

good joke

[@Baseball4life_27]

4:27 is crazy

[@NotMeNaNaNa]

As a Cubs fan I’m glad to finally see the “ex Cub factor” play in reverse when I grew up always hearing about Brock for Broglio and witnessed first hand successes of Joe Carter, Dennis Eckersley and Greg Maddux on other teams while my Cubs were always “lovable losers.” The 2016 team will forever live in my heart but glad I’m not seeing them overpay for Baez, Rizzo and Bryant to underperform while the best of the bunch Schwarber is coming off a 47 HR season where he put up a “whopping” 0.7 WAR fueled by his anemic .197 BA and relegation to full time DH. But at least unlike Javy he can draw a walk and almost hits enough HR’s to make up for all the strikeouts. Crazy to think Schwarber was the catalyst for the 2016 WS with a .412 BA and didn’t hit a single HR, however his mere presence after what should’ve been a season ending injury jolted the team Willis Reed style. This included the lead off single in the 10th that proved to be the go-ahead run. If not for Zobrist’s double driving in PR Almora it could’ve been Schwarber who won WS MVP.

[@pingamalinga]

Baez is like Pedro Cerrano. Straight ball he hit very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.

[@275Vet-RLTW]

Cough, Anthony Rendon... Cough

[@alandesgrange9703]

The worst!

[@ftb3817]

I'd take Rendon over baez. Atleast Rendon admits he don't fookin care

[@MBJ000]

At least rendon is actually good and led a team to a championship

[@dalhousiekid]

He was so great for us Nats, but since then...dunno what happened to him

[@rcruz262]

@@MBJ000 Baez didn't?

[@greatlakes4753]

Looks like a slider way outside is his favorite pitch to swing at.

[@imoorzy]

that video intro was great. making the audience think the video was gonna be about story just to fake us out was a 10/10 also it's pretty funny how the only pitches he didn't swing at in the video were actually in the zone

[@staidenofanarchy]

Its like he decides to swing before he even sees the pitch

[@YouTubeCommenter8]

As a cubs fan I have to admit, I don’t know why they thought he was a franchise player to begin with. He doesn’t have it like that, he’s just electric to watch sometimes. I love everybody on that World Series team but just based off that daddy hack type swing you had to know right?

[@Sicaughtik]

Javy was my favorite player for years as a Cubs fan and it's so sad to see what he's become. Did he hurt his eyes or something? How does someone go from 2nd in MVP voting to this shell of a player in just 5 years?

[@DemonKingBadger]

Aged 5 years, and his hitting style didn't leave much room for decay.

[@Idealdeath8304]

I’m so thankful the Mets didn’t resign him. Not gunna lie I really really wanted them to resign him. He was unreal for us after the trade deadline a few years ago. New York loved him. Thankful they saw the big picture

[@user-jz8vv4sc7k]

Baseball is the hardest sport to draft for..There are no sure winners in the draft... #1 Overall draft picks sometimes spend 3 - 3 1/2 years in the minors or maybe more... Dwight Gooden went from rookie ball to the Majors in 1 year & was starting for the New York Mets at 18. The best catcher I watched growing up was Mike Piazza & he was a 64th round draft pick that ended up a career 300. hitter... Not many catchers bat 300. & I'm damn sure he's the only 1 drafted that late to accomplish that feat..

[@tommybotts]

This is why I'm against baseball expansion. There are already not enough good players at the major league level to populate the existing 30 teams. Adding 2 new teams to MLB isn't going to make the sport better.

[@kiefdemon1979]

Javi said the same thing about booing when he was on the Mets.

[@maximus9972]

How is Chris Davis not a bigger bust? 23 mil a year to break the record for longest hitless streak, bat under 200 and lead the league in strikeouts

[@kyleOWillFixIt]

That whole Cubs team fell off. MOST of those guys were never the same after getting moved. The only one who MAYBE kinda was, was Schwarber and say what you like about him his game ALWAYS had some major holes. I think the DH coming to the NL saved his career because I don't know if you keep a guy who leads the league in strikeouts, hits under the Mendoza line, can't run, and is ALSO a minus minus defender in the corner outfield, even if he does have a 15% walk rate and hit 40 bombs. But you take the defensive liability out of the equation and suddenly he is a pretty good DH.

[@evanpenn1]

A child could tell Baez that he is bailing out with his shoulder. His swing is a mess.

[@notsosilentmajority1]

What ever happened to "diminished skills" clauses in contracts? Have teams really been stupid enough to do away with them? I'm pretty sure they are still in effect in the NFL, and most of the NFL contracts are not long term guarantees. If you sign a player and are paying him a huge salary and he just stops being able to produce to the point of Baez, the "diminished skills" clause should go into effect and Baez should lose a lot of money and/or be released outright. These fully guaranteed, multi year deals without a "diminished skills" clause are ridiculous. Imagine a "regular person", like a plumber or something, receiving a normal salary of around $75,000 dollars a year and all of a sudden the guy can't solder, thread pipe, stop a leak, install a toilet, etc.. That guy that 's making a heck of a lot less than $20+ million dollars a year will be gone quicker than you can blink your eye. The same should hold true for athletes, especially with the amounts of money that's being thrown around. That clause used to be a thing. We, the fans, are paying $8 - $10 dollars for a hot dog so this guy can hit .200 and then mock the fans by cupping his ear when he FINALLY gets an extra base hit?? Really?? I'm not a huge fan of booing my own players either but at some point you have to light a fire under the guys butt. What should everyone do, act like everything is great and not put a little pressure on the guy? That can lead to "acceptance", or something similar. Pressure can be a good thing, especially at $20 million dollars a year and fans chipping in for those salaries.

[@pray4us955]

You missed the part where MLB contracts are guaranteed unlike the majority of the other major sports. Also remember that both the players union and the owners agreed to those terms. The MLB players union is not afraid to go on strike to get what they want, which is evident by the multiple strikes they've had in the last 30 years.

[@pray4us955]

Comparing a common plumbers diminished skills to an elite athletes diminished skills is in no way comparable. First off, you are ignoring the massive amount of economic value sport teams and players bring to their respective cities. Athletes can have an economic impact for cities for decades after they are retired. The best plumber in the city can get in a car wreck one day and break his leg. Yeah he might miss work for a couple weeks, but eventually they'd go back to work and be just as productive as they were before or close to it. A plumbers diminished skillset and their economic impact is negligible when compared to a professional athletes. And their are "diminished skill" clauses for MLB players. These are called team options/free agency/DFAs/trades/arbitration. Baseball players have rights just like any other employee and they have fought hard for years to be protected. Look into the Oakland A's teams of the 80s that were perennial WS contenders and see what their owner did to those players and avoid paying them.

[@notsosilentmajority1]

@@pray4us955 I covered the fully guaranteed contracts. Apparently, you missed the part where I said these fully guaranteed contracts without a diminished skills clause are ridiculous. Yes, the owners and players union agreed on certain conditions that take care of the overall terms but they do not cover the details of each individual contract. Each player has their own specific contract, so these clauses can be placed in any contract, it's up to the player to sign it or not. I'm sure most players today would just refuse to sign a contract with that clause in it. Although, you never know how a player feels about their ability or if they feel like they are fortunate just to make it to MLB and are willing to sign a contract like that. As a matter of fact, in September 2002 the Chicago White Sox invoked a "diminished skills" clause in Frank Thomas' contract and refused to pay him his full salary for that season. Here's a portion of the ESPN story - The White Sox sent Thomas a letter on Oct. 6 telling him they were invoking a "diminished skills'' clause in his contract, a lawyer with knowledge of the talks said Tuesday on condition of anonymity. That clause would reduce his base pay to $250,000, and defer most of his nearly $10 million salary. Thomas can choose to terminate the contract and become a free agent. If he does, he would then have 45 days to explore the market or return to the White Sox contract. I'm not sure what the final outcome of this situation was but it just shows that there can be these clauses in contracts, and there have been these clauses in contracts of MLB players. www.espn.com/mlb/news/2002/1015/1446467.html

[@notsosilentmajority1]

@@pray4us955 So, you now agree that there are "diminished skills" contacts in MLB? Your initial comment seemed different. Also, I responded to your prior comment as well, showing an actual "diminished skills" clause being initiated against a big named MLB star. Also, one player does not a league make. One contract does not affect a city, town or state. Not sure why all of the economics are being brought into this discussion, we are talking about a "clause" being put into certain players' contracts, nothing else. Yes, the A's "management/ownership is a train wreck, just as some other ownership groups have been, but that's not what was being discussed at all. There shouldn't be a rabbit hole to jump into and discuss other things. Now that you agree that there are "diminished skills" clauses there's really nothing more to discuss. Those clauses should be in place for certain players, or even most players, and apparently they are in place for certain players. That's all that was really said from the beginning.

[@TheScotian82]

​@@pray4us955Let them f'n strike then. Remember last time when fans were literally willing to say "K Bye"?

[@NigelThornbery]

I know Rosario is nowhere near the same situation and the Nationals are only paying $4Mil this year for him but id say Rosario is the worst hitter in baseball right now.

[@metfish]

Mets dodged a bullet by not resigning this strike out machine

[@illiniguy34]

I remember being sad in 2021 when the Cubs traded Baez along with Rizzo and Bryant but after seeing his tenure in Detroit, I’m amazed by how bad he’s been.

[@1TightMinute]

I like JB. I don’t think he was the right fit for that park. He’s got pop but he don’t have pop like that. Also, AJ doesn’t utilize players speed. He did it with altuve. Altuve was stealing 40 bags a year and AJ said nah we don’t run anymore. Analytics. Now altuve is stealing bags again. What does worry me about JB though is his defense doesn’t seem to be as good which you could at least hang your hat on that. He had so much potential. I really wished he had signed somewhere else.

[@Jessica_Roth]

When the Mets played the Tigers, Gary Cohen had the utter BALLS to describe Javy's 2 months of .899 salary-drive with the 2021 Mets as "the best of his career". Oh, Gary. Did you forget how bad he was, stats aside? It's no coincidence that the 2021 Mets set a record for most days in first place for a team that finished under .500. The 2021 Mets were 55-48 when they traded for Baez. They went 22-37 with him. During that Mets-Tigers series, I saw Javy swing and miss at a pitch in the opposite batter's box. And he was late.

[@Jessica_Roth]

"Booing your own players really doesn't do anything. Unless the player was disrespectful to the fans." You mean like the time Baez gave a "thumbs-down" to the Mets' fans? (Joined by his buddy Lindor, who has been in and out, but is at least better than Javy.)

[@2101case]

Chris Davis makes Baez look like an all star.

[@anthonygenovese7578]

Surely he gets told by his coaches to stop swinging at crappy outside pitches. Probably just says "shuddup I know what i'm doing i'm an mlb shortstop"

[@Cdanto95]

Wasn’t baez decent in his short stint with the Mets, he looked happy playing with Lindor but is just coasting with the tigers

[@cahg3871]

Baez swings at every thing,easy strike out for a smart pitcher.He is living proof that teams will go to any length to win,even lying to themselves about a players ability.

[@killeh6083]

Its unfortunate that half of the Tigers lineup are automatic outs because they have a pitching factory.

[@chriszenko3598]

The Rays have the best management in baseball. No big contracts they trade their stars and replenish

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

No WS win though...

[@iamsithazagoth3728]

9:18 First time he didn't swing. Unfortunately, it was a strike.

[@Missfireblossom]

He's still "El Mago" in the field, making amazing plays, but offensively he's mind-bogglingly bad. With 2 strikes on him, everybody in the ballpark knows what's coming... a slider low and a foot outside that he will swing and miss at. Today the pitcher walked off the field with a smirk because it was so easy. God knows why he keeps swinging at that stuff when he has to KNOW it's coming. No one is going to throw him a fastball with 2 strikes so if he is fooled, he's the only one. The Tigers have a good fielding shortstop who hit well in the spring named Ryan Kreidler, but he broke his hand early on. So they will be keeping Javy at least until the hand heals. He's dreadful.

[@DionysusAlS]

I'm wondering if he's injured and concealing it from the team (not likely) or if he might not even realize it and the damage has become a normal state for him. If so, it's something that doesn't show up in a physical. If he's completely healthy and still playing like this, that's really bad news for the Tigers. They can't keep trotting him out there every day and expect to contend. They'll have to do some sort of platoon with another player, or make Baez a late-inning defensive replacement and utility player. I'm in Chicago and Javy was obviously a fan favorite here. His decline has been pretty shocking. Looking at the advanced metrics, his strikeout rate is actually down a tad since he joined the Tigers, but his hard hit rate is way down. He's just not squaring the ball up like he used to. Injury might explain that, or maybe he's simply lost it. It happens to professional athletes all the time.

[@scottthomas7870]

The reason Jed Hoyer traded Baez to New York was because of his mammoth bat swing. As your vid shows, Baez never saw an outside slider he didn't wave at. If Ted Williams were alive today, he'd rip on Baez for his mechanics, strike zone knowledge and overall discipline. How can any ballplayer with such acumen in the field be such a moron at the plate?? Tigers fans are to be pitied for watching this guy night after night.

[@tankeater]

1:02 he got hit with a strike... That's pretty embarrassing 😂

[@Erschophone]

A video that compares the Anthony Rendon contract with the Javier Baez contract would be interesting. An argument could be made about either one being the worst.

[@qnvk2232]

I don’t know why, but I swear I thought Javi Baez had already retired. I was probably very drunk or daydreaming

[@johnwayne9828]

One could argue the dbacks didnt win the world series BECAUSE they let Bumgarner go. They signed him for his october pedigree to begin with, only fitting the universe punish them for ruining and kicking to the side the greatest world series pitcher in history.

[@timlewis5096]

As a non baseball fan this guy hit the wall many years ago. send him down to lower leagues. He has lost any ability he may have had. Also sack the guys who paid him so much on a long term contract. Seems to me that skill and ability is nothing to those in charge who thow money like it grew on trees!!!

[@robertbluestein7800]

I’d like to see what you think about a similar situation in Houston with the .083 hitting Jose Abreu. He is loved by players and fans much like Carlos Lee was - but anaemic at the plate. The Astros have holes defensively and are aging and need a spark plug in the worst way.

[@fatdingo8251]

Loperfido will be that guy

[@richs3655]

If you've been booed for you're entire career, then that says more about him than any fan. He comes off as a prick.

[@PeterTea]

As a Cubs fan, thanks Tigers.

[@jwspiker]

as a cubs fan, i love baez, he has to be in the right system and right team IMO. his time in Chicago will always be remembered.

[@garynelson9538]

Baez appears to show more concern for his Sun Flower Seeds than his swing.

[@stephenswinehart]

Al Avila’s crowning achievement in a long line of sweet moves right here. Dude swings at everything and it hurts to watch.

[@michaelbaucom4019]

Never has the adage " Learn to take a pitch " been more apt

[@Rambletambleforever]

Love the cupcakes that cannot take the booing. Or any cupcake against booing. Guy can retire and not work another day in his life and he is so fragile we cannot boo.

[@RobBot34]

all jokes aside, bases empty baez and runners in scoring position baez are two completely different players. They're not paying him to win a batting title.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

Elaborate please

[@gregthegroove]

I can’t believe *this* Javy is El Mago Javy because Javy as a Cub was completely different. We put up with the K’s because you’re leaving out that Javy was solid as they came type SS. His baseball acumen was top notch and doing defensive stuff we never saw. Gun arm, a bit wild but could get to any ground ball. I’m shocked he fell off as bad as he did cause he was pretty clutch 2015-2020.

[@dvbagnasco]

Go back and watch Ryne Sandberg highlights. That guy could get to anything, cannon arm, and.... he could hit. Meaning he wouldn't swing at balls thrown to the dugout.

[@gregthegroove]

@@dvbagnasco oh trust me, Ryno is my childhood hero. What a legend

[@georgelambrakos5819]

That's on the Tigers, the moment that contract was signed any baseball fan who knows anything about baseball knew it was a terrible signing...