ITV documentary The Birmingham Six Their Own Story tx 18 03 1991

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roughjustice1UK

roughjustice1UK

12 жыл бұрын

This film is about the Birmingham Six. On 14 March 1991, Paddy Hill, Hugh Callaghan, Richard McIlkenny, Gerry Hunter, Billy Power and Johnny Walker with Chris Mullin MP stood outside the Old Bailey free after 16 years, having had their convictions overturned for the murder of 21 people in two pubs in Birmingham.
That most notorious miscarriage of justice came hard on the heels of other judicial scan- dals and set in motion a series of events. Such was the level of public and political concern that a Royal Commission was established and, ultimately, the collapse of public confidence led to the creation of the Criminal Cases Review Commission 13 years ago as the independent body to investigate miscarriages.

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@Jackthesmilingblack
@Jackthesmilingblack 3 жыл бұрын
Bottom line: Never, ever help the police with their enquiries.
@jamesmitchell8922
@jamesmitchell8922 Жыл бұрын
The police weren't there to find the real ones, they were there to pick certain type of people who weren't involved in bombings.
@jackietreehorn5561
@jackietreehorn5561 Жыл бұрын
​@@jamesmitchell8922an attitude of any Paddy will do....only served to swell the ranks of the provisionals
@paulmaher2392
@paulmaher2392 Жыл бұрын
So much blood on English hands.
@wellcricket2217
@wellcricket2217 6 ай бұрын
Easier said. Your damed if you do damed if you don’t. If they refused it would have looked suspicious.
@ryanshannon2011
@ryanshannon2011 Жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Hughie, so sad to hear of your passing A dignified gentleman. I hope all those in the British Establishmemt are rotten. ❤
@JimTLonW6
@JimTLonW6 9 жыл бұрын
A point that seems to be overlooked regarding this and similar cases is that those who did commit the bombings escaped and have never been brought to justice. For the benefit of those who think that they were released on a technicality, remember that the guilty men have never paid any penalty for these crimes...
@michaelsmitten302
@michaelsmitten302 9 жыл бұрын
+Wylye_guy Yes, I agree , but don't forget the media is as guilty of condemning innocent people as they sometimes are of revealing injustice - in fact, in the name of selling journalism, they could simultaneously be the same people, at the same time - they generate the news and don't really care about the consequences.
@JimTLonW6
@JimTLonW6 9 жыл бұрын
+Michael Smitten The media certainly uncritically swallowed the prosecution notwithstanding the holes in the prosecution case that were evident at the time.
@michaelsmitten302
@michaelsmitten302 9 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt about the injustice of this case and that the men are innocent and, in my opinion, should have compensation. But ONLY if they renounce Roman Catholicism, which has a history of murder, persecution, inquisition, torture and atrocities spanning nearly two thousand years. Without that, their call for mercy is worthless. They support the very type of system that caused their own grief.
@BCBASupervision
@BCBASupervision 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Smitten You blame religion, I would blame the people involved. British people have been involved in centuries of atrocities to people all over the world, yet I have never heard any government or British person plead for forgiveness for their actions. To this day, the British still cause damage to countries and are still willing to justify it so whatever you say about religion, it still boils down to rotten people.
@celticmist14
@celticmist14 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsmitten302 Maybe they have many any people both sides of the border have quit ALL religion.
@mattfield914
@mattfield914 9 жыл бұрын
The British Goverment. The Irish Republican Army. 16 years you cost these men. Just another to add to the list of Both your atrocities. Do NOT go back to these days.
@bascet1
@bascet1 9 жыл бұрын
Spot on mate.
@michaelsmitten302
@michaelsmitten302 9 жыл бұрын
+Matt Field 9/11, and 7/7, we are way past not going back to "those days" - we are bombing innocent civilian humans in Iraq, and Syria, pretending to attack terrorists that don't exist for crimes they didn't commit. If life for life exists, 21 people in Birmingham is nothing to what Blair, Bush, Brown and Cameron have done and are doing now!
@howsthingslads
@howsthingslads 10 жыл бұрын
God bless you Gerry Hunter,Paddy Hill,Johnny Walker,Hugh Callaghan,Billy Power and Dickie Mcllkenny RIP you deserve every happiness and comfort
@flyinspirals
@flyinspirals 10 жыл бұрын
I love KZbin. Just a 52 year old American woman who enjoys history and social studies and has always wanted to know what England's like (all my mother's family hail from there) or at least English television. I grew up loving the English shows on our Public Television (the first one I remember watching was 'The Double Deckers', hahaha) and now, thanks to KZbin, can catch up on a few (hundred) of the programs I've missed. Thanks for the upload : )
@neil4817
@neil4817 4 жыл бұрын
It's odd that a programme about the corruption of the West Midlands serious crime squad and the injustice committed against these wrongfully convicted men would make you feel nostalgic for England.
@pauloneill914
@pauloneill914 Жыл бұрын
England is a dive
@vlloyd46
@vlloyd46 4 ай бұрын
​@@pauloneill914Don't slag off my country. I'm British. Born & bred. My mother was from Belfast. She always found this case very emotional. No amount of financial compensation could make up for their lost years.
@pauloneill914
@pauloneill914 4 ай бұрын
@@vlloyd46 I am entitled to my opinion and experience of England thanks
@eamonnevans8005
@eamonnevans8005 Жыл бұрын
Why were no police officers prosecuted for their treatment of these men in 1974?
@pipersson9258
@pipersson9258 11 ай бұрын
No Police officers were questioned or prosecuted because every UK Police Force as its own inhouse diiscipline squad. Before a huge Publc trial is mounted the team dealing with this are extra-careful to weigh the likihood of success, the weight of the evidence, and to look for escape-holes such as "We were beaten to force us to confess", most certainly they looked at the prisoners physical condition, took photos for signs of recent facial bruising, beatings or injuries. Within 24 hours their Lawyers would attend & appear, they would love to see injuries which they can photograpgh and produce in Court, a secondary precaution is to have these men taken to a local hospital for their injuries to be recorded and treated? All 6 men produced a Jame Hanratty denial defence based on lies and deceit.
@jacquiewalton1996
@jacquiewalton1996 6 ай бұрын
@@pipersson9258 The former City of London detective Lew Tassell describes how his commanding officer, DCI Phil Cuthbert, handed him £50 with the words: “‘I’ve got a drink for you’ … It was expected of me to accept it. It was part of the culture and I should be grateful for it.” More “drinks” followed at a time when the force was meant to be investigating three major armed crimes: the £175,000 robbery of the Daily Express payroll in 1976; the £520,000 Williams & Glyn’s bank robbery the following year; and the 1978 Daily Mirror payroll robbery in which a security guard, Tony Castro, was shot dead and £200,000 was stolen. No one was ever convicted of the robberies. Lew Tassell ‘I thought: this is not why I joined the police’: Lew Tassell. “The higher you went, the bigger the drink you got,” said Tassell. “There was no one I could go to … Nothing would have happened except I would have been out of the CID … I thought: this is not why I joined the police.” When he finally decided to cooperate with the investigation into corruption, “I was concerned about my own personal safety … One of the officers said: ‘Is it true, Lew, what we hear about you?’ … [Another officer said:] ‘I don’t think he’s a grass because if what you say is true you’ll be wearing a … cement raincoat.’ It terrified me.” He added: “I would sometimes go home and sob.” Tassell, who remained in the police until 1999, gave evidence against Cuthbert, who was jailed for three years in 1982.
@jacquiewalton1996
@jacquiewalton1996 6 ай бұрын
@@pipersson9258 You mean "lies and deceit" like this ? Ex-police reveal bribes and threats used to cover up corruption in 70s London BBC documentary to examine incidents that led to setting up of unit on which Line of Duty’s AC-12 is based Duncan Campbell Thu 8 Apr 2021 15.30 BST One of London’s most senior police officers, described by a colleague as “the greatest villain unhung”, was believed to be involved in major corruption in the 1970s but never prosecuted, according to a new documentary on police malpractice. Former officers who exposed corruption at the time describe how they were threatened that they would end up in a “cement raincoat” if they informed on fellow officers and were shunned by colleagues when they did. The fresh revelations come from half a dozen former officers from both the Metropolitan and City of London police forces, including one who has admitted receiving payments.
@jacquiewalton1996
@jacquiewalton1996 6 ай бұрын
@@pipersson9258 It would seem that their "inhouse discipline squad" is as bent as the coppers they were investigating ...Ridgewell, a sociable and plausible man, not unlike the “Dot” Cottan character played by Craig Parkinson in an earlier Line of Duty series, fitted up countless people in the 1970s for crimes they had not committed, while he was himself involved in stealing more than £1m - the equivalent of £4m today - in goods that the police had access to, which he sold via a well-known south London criminal family. Remarkably for the 1970s, the proceeds of his crimes were salted away in five bank accounts, including one in Zurich, and a safety deposit box. He also, as a humble detective sergeant, owned property and businesses. When he was eventually caught, along with other corrupt officers, he hired Bernie Perkoff, the top lawyer used by many gangland figures, but was convicted of conspiracy to rob and jailed for seven years in 1980. Asked by the governor of Ford prison why he had embarked on such a corrupt path, he told him: “I just went bent.” He died in his cell in 1982 at the age of 37. Satchwell, a contemporary of Ridgewell in the British Transport Police, suggests in the book that it is possible he was murdered.
@jacquiewalton1996
@jacquiewalton1996 6 ай бұрын
@@pipersson9258 ..One of the most curious cases of police corruption was revealed in 1998, when a respected Merseyside detective and a TV star were sent down for five years and 15 months respectively. The cop was 50-year-old Elmore Davies, and the celebrity was Mike Ahearne, aka Warrior from Gladiators. Along with a third person, they were convicted of conspiring to sabotage the case against a certain Philip Glennon Jr, who had been charged with attempted murder but had a powerful friend in notorious drugs kingpin named Curtis Warren. A police interrogation The most shocking police confessions One way in which a murder case can turn on a dime is via a tell-all confession Police investigators had found out that DCI Davies accepted a hefty bribe to divulge information that was integral to the prosecution’s case against Glennon Jr. The money had been passed from Curtis Warren via the Gladiator star, who’d struck up an unlikely friendship with Davies several years before. The whole story was all the more startling given Davies’ prestigious police record, which included years investigating international drugs cartels and even looking into the dealings of a relative of Pablo Escobar. The plan had come to light thanks to police surveillance of Curtis Warren - a wiretap had captured the kingpin discussing Elmore Davies as someone on the inside who could potentially be bribed to help get Glennon Jr off. This then led to detectives drilling a hole in the home of their own senior colleague to eavesdrop on his conversations with his Gladiator accomplice. The judge summed the whole sorry situation up when he sentenced Davies, saying: 'You cynically betrayed the trust placed in you as a senior police officer by ordinary members of the public.'
@garrylenihan8374
@garrylenihan8374 5 жыл бұрын
I've experienced a self-inflicted 10 yr's- 4 months, and i would'nt wish prison on my worst enemy ,it is a harsh unforgiving place and the danger your surrounded by is absolute,its part of the fabric of u'r days its intensity overwhelms u,and u find u'r self in a constant state of paranoia about the guards the other cons, like i said its very unforgiving..these men, and i mean MEN,are truly remarkable,it must of been truly and totally horrendous for them,and then there's their families and the quite obvious path of pain that they inevitably will find themselves walking..and i fear even now the words to describe it all can not be found and i doubt that they ever, ever will,,i truly hope that today life is truly shining for them and ill continue to pray that life continues to be kind to all of them and families,i truly deeply do!!!!,god bless u and u'r families. Love and Peace and Ting......god bless all...xXxXx...:)...:)...:)...
@pipersson9258
@pipersson9258 Жыл бұрын
What about the BIRMINGHAM CITY dead, the people they killed, they made and planted the bombs. so your sentiments are worthless.
@nhdme1257
@nhdme1257 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone who cares about justice, google MOJO. Give Paddy a hand not a fist
@JimTLonW6
@JimTLonW6 9 жыл бұрын
I just happened to be in a barristers' robing room the day after these guys were released. It was interesting that the Barristers were telling each other what bad luck it was - for the judge in the original trial!
@roccok100
@roccok100 11 жыл бұрын
I liked this video, however I dont for 1 second like anything these innocent men went through, the police, prison officers involved in the abuse of these men should live and die in shame, these weak people in authority took some doctor scientist whatever, word and treated these men badly, it should be a lesson of things are never always what they seem.
@malterwitty5433
@malterwitty5433 3 жыл бұрын
Same reason I liked your comment
@christopherdale7017
@christopherdale7017 Жыл бұрын
Some of the worst injustices ever amazing how alot of them aren't as bitter as they are with the rest of the world.
@sixtosilxtra4842
@sixtosilxtra4842 7 жыл бұрын
I want to believe they received ,at least, a couple of million pounds as a compensation after ruined completely their lives...
@celticmist14
@celticmist14 Жыл бұрын
They received nowhere near that according to Paddy Hill
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc 2 ай бұрын
They got 300,000 pounds minus the COST of their stay in prison
@angusyates828
@angusyates828 11 ай бұрын
Unbelievable that this happened. The Prevention of Terrorism act was an open invitation. Extraordinary powers in a democracy.
@jackietreehorn5561
@jackietreehorn5561 11 ай бұрын
And internment without trial more like the USSR
@woollyism
@woollyism 10 жыл бұрын
how are these lads doin' now? go neiri an bothar sibh lads
@nigeldunne7505
@nigeldunne7505 Жыл бұрын
Poor guys it's so sad bastard police 👮‍♀️ bang out of order rip to the people that lost their lives ☘️🤓👍🙏🏾
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc 2 ай бұрын
It took the Guildford 4 to be released forbthem to finally get released
@user-hf3ep3qt3p
@user-hf3ep3qt3p Ай бұрын
Wonder how paddy got the scar on his face
@pipersson9258
@pipersson9258 Жыл бұрын
*Police brutality. The Police Forces of England number 223 000 staff, Last year 2022, more than 90 police officers and staff were found guilty of crimes including sexual offences, corruption, and violence against the person, Recent statistics released by the Home Office, revealed in year 2022, 68 police officers were found guilty, as well as 25 police civilian staff. This included the former officer Wayne Couzens, who was handed a life sentence in October 2021 for the murder of Sarah Everard after he abducted her. Only 10 officers and three police staff (13 individuals out of 223 000) were prosecuted for violence against the person.*
@jacquiewalton3022
@jacquiewalton3022 6 ай бұрын
I don't know where you get your figures from but they don't match the police's own figures ..How many complaints are made against police officers? According to the most recent statistics, there were 87,786 complaints recorded against police officers in England and Wales in the year to March 2022. This involved more than 115,000 allegations (a single complaint can contain multiple allegations against multiple officers). Table setting out the number of complaints made against police officers in England and Wales in the year to March 2022: Delivery of duties (35,114), Police powers (26,817), Individual behaviours (13,812), Discriminatory behaviour (3,854), Property or premise related (2,714), Access or disclosure of informant (1,803), Abuse of position or corruption (,1,393), Other (1,076) During this period, 414 officers were found guilty of misconduct, and 284 officers were found guilty of gross misconduct. Of the latter group, 93 were dismissed, and a further 133 would have been dismissed had they not already resigned or retired. Fifty eight officers did not lose their job.
@jacquiewalton1996
@jacquiewalton1996 6 ай бұрын
@pipersson9258 Either you are a liar or a fantasist, or both. From the Government site ..."Of the 791 allegations, in conduct matters, involving police officers, there were referred to proceedings, gross misconduct was found in 284 (36%) allegations and misconduct was found in a further 414 (53%) allegations. Meanwhile, 86 (11%) were found not to be misconduct, including 10 allegations where proceedings were discontinued. No misconduct finding level was recorded for a small number (7) of allegations. Of the 501 allegations, in recordable conduct matters, involving police officers, there were referred to proceedings, gross misconduct was found in 267 (53%) allegations and misconduct was found in a further 188 (38%) allegations. Meanwhile, 46 (9%) were found not to be misconduct, including 3 allegations where proceedings were discontinued."
@jacquiewalton1996
@jacquiewalton1996 6 ай бұрын
I do hope this isn't one of your family !! ..Northamptonshire Police’s suspended chief constable is facing gross misconduct proceedings after allegedly misrepresenting his military service. The county’s police, fire and crime commissioner, Stephen Mold, said Nick Adderley will now face an accelerated disciplinary hearing following claims he misrepresented his past by wearing a Falklands War campaign medal. *WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT .. A LYING CHEATING WALTER MITTY POLICEMAN* !!!
@jacquiewalton1355
@jacquiewalton1355 2 ай бұрын
No reply to your lies about Crimes committed by Police yet ?
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc 2 ай бұрын
Yes Sarah Everard
@williamkelly9859
@williamkelly9859 11 ай бұрын
H0pe they are all doing well.
@fitzroyboy1979
@fitzroyboy1979 5 ай бұрын
A real painful listen.
@bmwracing1974
@bmwracing1974 5 ай бұрын
British justice???? Don’t make me laugh. There’s no such thing.
@caragroves7196
@caragroves7196 Жыл бұрын
these guy's did not do this thing they were never there at all so they are not gulity
@chrischallenger9010
@chrischallenger9010 7 ай бұрын
🥹
@michaelabcd1242
@michaelabcd1242 5 жыл бұрын
They knew
@celticmist14
@celticmist14 Жыл бұрын
what? They didn't know his involvement because many people don't
@patkearney9320
@patkearney9320 Жыл бұрын
Look I was a card carrying member served 8 years and them men were not PIRA we couldn't except them on our wing because they were not members. All there sentence was served on criminal wings, we protected them by offering suffering to English criminals who assaulted them.
@patkearney9320
@patkearney9320 Жыл бұрын
They knew nothing you spanner.
@williamkelly9859
@williamkelly9859 11 ай бұрын
British justice .don't worry.
@pipersson9258
@pipersson9258 Жыл бұрын
*I am a roofer, 3 of us were working on the leader of this gang of Irishmen Billy Powers Council House roof, the day he, and five others, placed bombs in Birmingham Pubs. When we returned the next day to continue work, the street was closed by the Police, it was 3 days before we got back on the job. Billy Powers wife made us tea several times and told us she had warned him not to carry out this bombing, her exact words were "I warned him, I told him they'd get caught, and said he'd get 30 years in jail". She also said she had told him she would not wait for him to come out of prison. They did it. and shame on them for killing and injuring innocents.*
@eamoc
@eamoc Жыл бұрын
I presume you went to the authorities with this evidence??
@eamoc
@eamoc Жыл бұрын
@@pipersson9258 Those pesky Provos. He kept up the deception all this time. A top IRA operative, about to go out on a job, and his mammy warned him not to do it cos hell get caught. And then only for her to gossip about it later to a bunch of strangers? Get off the drugs dude...
@pipersson9258
@pipersson9258 Жыл бұрын
@@eamoc A top IRA Operative. They were 6 clowns who on the Friday afternoon before this massacre of Birmingham civilians occurred, came back to Billy Powers' house blind drunk, red-faced, and staggering up the path into the house, we saw them arrive, I even remarked to them as they passed me "My, you lot look as if you have had a good drink." A top IRA operative you call him, Powers was living in a modest down-market Birmingham Council house, probably all of them were on the dole, drawing DHSS benefits and rent paid. After the bombs went off they did a runner from New Street train station and were all pulled at the Holyhead boat to Ireland barrier. How daft can you get, all the Police had to do was check how many train tickets were sold, and wait for them to arrive. I think we can agree if you are going to commit a crime like this you do not employ drunks. The IRA was stupid to do this job and gained nothing from it. Birmingham Police 6 - Belfast 0.
@arthurgoodness7865
@arthurgoodness7865 Жыл бұрын
@@pipersson9258 it would probably be more accurate to say Birmingham Six £5.4m Birmingham Police nil.
@pipersson9258
@pipersson9258 Жыл бұрын
@@arthurgoodness7865 Arthur, not sure how you obtain the £5.4 m figure. In my view these 6 men are murderers, straightforward killers who deserve what they got. I claim they are using false and distorted arguments to fight their cause both ancient and present, The IRA never mentions the British government was willing to send food to Ireland to prevent famine referencing here the sad but ever so true Potato Famine PERIOD. They never mention that Irish Shop Keepers objected to these free food deliveries and supplies, and claimed it would put them out of business (they could not sell shop sold food if free food was available) In the background you had British Politicians who were not aware how serious the famine was, and it all escalated out-of-control. For what its worth I want to see a UNITED IRELAND, I want Northern Ireland disbanded and given over to the Dublin-based Irish Govt. I have no sympathy for the Orange Order, or the IRA. Pub bombings are underhand and achieve nothing.
@erthmiwe
@erthmiwe Жыл бұрын
I can agree they were innocent. But how clean were they in relation to the IRA?
@peterdoyle1591
@peterdoyle1591 Жыл бұрын
Gee! Yeah! How clean can anybody be to an Englishman's opinion? Isn't that exactly how they were found guilty? You don't get it yet but those foreign smiles that run your government and Brexit are the death of your nation. Ask the world how clean is an Englishman in relation to humankind? You will get that answer soon m8.
@jamesmitchell8922
@jamesmitchell8922 Жыл бұрын
McDade was an IRA member who died and wanted to pay their respects by attending his funeral in NI.
@celticmist14
@celticmist14 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmitchell8922 but they would have been better avoid tending the funeral. They likely didn't know he was involved in anything but they should have stayed away from his funeral.
@jamesmitchell8922
@jamesmitchell8922 Жыл бұрын
@@celticmist14 True but they knew him as a friend not as a bomber
@jackietreehorn5561
@jackietreehorn5561 Жыл бұрын
​@@jamesmitchell8922everyone in Ireland goes to funerals.... especially from the same community.... doesn't mean guilty by association
@alexanderspear9464
@alexanderspear9464 11 ай бұрын
MURDERERES AND THE GUILDFORD 4
@fishermansid8861
@fishermansid8861 11 ай бұрын
Ok simpleton
@jacquiewalton1996
@jacquiewalton1996 6 ай бұрын
And Timothy Evans
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc 2 ай бұрын
The Guildford 4 were innocent.
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc
@MarieCassidy-zd8sc 2 ай бұрын
Innocent victims plus guildford 4 plus all other good English people who are wrongfully imprisoned . They would be there for you if you were wrongfully imprisoned too
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