Don't buy before watching this: MSI 4080 SUPER SUPRIM X Review [Noise, Temps, Performance & more]

[@theivadim]

Ask me anything👇

[@Ariel_UZ]

What do u think about the rx 7900XT? I really wanted the rtx 4070 ti super but its expensive for me.

[@theivadim]

@@Ariel_UZ I've not tried the 7900 XT specifically and I still have to experience the new FSR 3.1 on an AMD GPU. However, I'm not a fan of AMD GPUs in general. Only because resolution upscaling is very important for me. DLSS quality is superb and it's in so many game. FSR on the other hand is very difficult to find. There's like 5 games with FSR 3.1 and that's it. And there's no telling if that'll improve in the future. It's been well over a month and FSR 3.1 is not getting adopted. That is concerning. Hence why I don't recommend AMD GPUs. But if you're looking to play your games without frame generation and upscaling then the 7900 XT is a brilliant choice. It's cheaper and performs well. I've tried the 7900 GRE and it was a solid experience.

[@Ariel_UZ]

@@theivadim thanks

[@l--l1443]

can u do a vid on the new amd fluid motion frames 2 with the rx 7900 xtx? i heard its improved a lot

[@theivadim]

​@@l--l1443 I'm not sure when will be the next time I'll get my hands on an AMD GPU. However, from what I've seen in videos on KZbin AFMF 2 is still a low-quality solution that is nowhere near as good as proper FSR frame generation.

[@Famouslastplace]

A suggestion, don't title videos like this. I'm no youtube expert but if you want to increase consistent traffic, this is not the way.

[@theivadim]

Why not? What is the right way?

[@GameslordXY]

​@@theivadim Nothing wrong with it. Perhaps slightly clickbaty as it indicates it's not very good and without much proof, but other than that it's fine. I've seen much worse titles and clicbaits,sadly , work wonders on KZbin.

[@GameslordXY]

Why not? Title is slightly clickbaity , but nothing special by KZbin standards. There are far,far worse .

[@yogi_jtl]

For me it's a red flag to have the title with this content. No trust gained here. I know that many use clickbait, but I do not come back to those.

[@theonerm2]

@@GameslordXY It's not even clickbaity. All the title implies is that there is information you should know before buying the card, but that's true for anything.

[@euphoria842]

I have the 4090 Suprim and it's fantastic. Whisper quiet and keeps itself very cool.

[@c5kev]

Sweet...what a total monster! My budget only allows for a 4080 Super as I mentioned above ^ . And while all the 4080 Supers are pretty much the same, I do like the idea of 'MSI Suprim' plastered on it.

[@Theaquasnake]

Curious, is there a difference for the MSI 4080 Super Suprim, Expert, Gaming and the other models largely aesthetics? Or is a specific version meant to be better than the others?

[@quiche_tueuse3616]

First, as a « low end » model you have the msi ventus (x2 or x3 which correspond to the number of fan to cool the gpu) then you have msi gaming x trio or gaming x (also corresponding to the number of fan present on the gpu to cool it) which is « middle end ». Still in the middle end there is also a model called msi gaming x slim which like the name state is a slimmer version of the other, mostly used for small build / case. For the « top end » you have the msi suprim x (and the suprim liquid x which is only available on the 4090 lineup so I don’t count it here) which is the top of the line 4080 / super of msi. You might ask me what is the difference between all of these model, and it’s pretty simple: quality. Lower end model like ventus (even if it’s a very good quality card ) will not be equipped of last msi fan technology for example.

[@TechMeldOfficial]

If you can afford combining it with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D, please give us the performance results !

[@mrhassell]

lol - there's always one AMD fanboy lurking somewhere... oh look X3D... save yourself some cash maybe with your next AMD 9000 series purchase, buy from Finland or Scandinavia where they offload the ones that the rest of the world doesn't want, at up to half the price.

[@TechMeldOfficial]

@@mrhassell Not a fanboy, and 9000 is not faster than the 7800X3d, i want to see if the 14700kf is a bottleneck for the 4080, that's it.

[@theivadim]

On average, the i7, i9 and 7800X3D are similar in terms of gaming performance. I have to be very strict with my budget. So, I'm not sure that spending money on the 7800X3D is a good investment for me. I'm thinking about waiting for the 9800X3D instead. Saving money in the meantime.🙂

[@TechMeldOfficial]

@@theivadim Makes sense, good move

[@GameslordXY]

What's so fanboyish about mentioning 7800X3D which is objectively best gaming CPU in the world ? Why is everything about us vs them?

[@kraithaywire]

Is it worth the extra over Ti Super considering the fact that they have the same amount of VRAM and are based on the same die?

[@theivadim]

It's worth it only if you want to play games with ray tracing enabled. Otherwise, the 4070 Ti SUPER is good enough for 4K as long as you are OK with using DLSS. Which I use all the time and highly recommend DLSS Quality on a 4K display.

[@c5kev]

Nice to see one of these lit up. Doing a new build and this card is on the parts list, along with a 670E Tomahawk, Samsung 990 2TB, 32G Corsair Dominator, Corsair H150 Elite 360, going into a Hyte Y70. Was planning on a 7950x3D (I'm an Intel guy, but the 14th Gen's scare me - microcode fix or not), but waiting until the Zen 5's come out on the 15th (supposedly) and not sure if the extra money will be worth it, or if I even want to spend it. Time will tell. Was a bit confused by the title as the Suprim is MSI's flagship card. It's not a monster 4090, but I think it'll do the job just fine. :) Again, nice to see one lit. I like a little RGB, but don't want my rig to look like a circus either.

[@theivadim]

"like a circus"😀 You made me laugh. That's a good comparison. I won't be able to look at my RGB-filled PC the same ever again😄 That's a solid build you've planned. I'd only suggest considering a change to the CPU. If this is primarily a gaming PC and you don't need extra cores for work, the 7800X3D would be a great choice. Its 3D cache is attached to all 8 cores, ensuring optimal performance in games. The 7950X3D, while powerful, has a split cache configuration that can sometimes hinder gaming performance due to application inconsistencies.

[@c5kev]

@@theivadim Yeah, I agree for just gaming a 7800x3D is the better choice. But I do use Photoshop and a bit of Blender and believe that's where the 7800 might fall a tad short, though prolly not by much. IDK. Hell, I'm buying a 4080S, which isn't worth the money anyway, so what do I know? As far as the RGB, considering the Corsair AIO, + 4 additional AF120 fans, in actuality my rig will look like Disneyland at night anyway. I'm also thinking that perhaps the MSI Carbon (which also has RGB) might be a better mobo choice, but now I have no money left for my clown suit. Damn it! I just might consider the 7800 since it's much cheaper to offset the price of the Carbon mobo. It's all so confusing...

[@theivadim]

If it's for work then the better CPU is work it. I don't work in those apps so can't comment on how usefull the CPU is in them.

[@randysalsman6992]

With a build of that caliber I'd highly recommend to go with 64GB of RAM, or at the very least you could split the difference and go with 48GB RAM. On top of that, make sure you do the research and get RAM that tunes up the best, so that you can tighten the timings as tight as possable to get low of latency as possable then after that, get the highest MT/s you can reach but still stay in a 1:1 with the CPU's fclk (aka Fabric Clock). If you tune your RAM to perfection and use a none x3d CPU, you can get close to the x3d gaming performance, also the gaming performance you get from the xdd is really only for newer game's and even then not all. The rest of the games use your normal CPU performance and that fast memory don't do diddly and that's the performance everything else your computer does works with. I researched all this when I build my current system, so I went with a R9 5950x and 4x8GB(32GB) of RAM with samsung b-die memory modules. I got them suckers to 1:1 3800MT/s CL14-14-14-14-28-T1@1.55V (b-die loves voltage, all other memory would fry lol). That's as high as like 99% can go, only like that 1% can go higher but lot's will not reach this level of performance. Took me awhile to reach it, but now it'll always go back to it if the bios gets reset. I was so happy I got it to that level, it got me performance to that of almost the next generation, I'd say about 60% the way there. Gave me a really snappy system that the 5800x3d would not have, gave me most of the gaming performance that benefits from the x3d's and more gaming performance on the titles that don't. Oh, almost forgot, when tuning RAM you always wanna do it all manually, no nead in using X.M.P.

[@c5kev]

@@randysalsman6992 Thanks for your input. I'm an Intel guy, but going 7800x3D on this build. The 13/14th Gen CPUs scare me now, though I'm sure issues have been resolved at this point. Anyway, I ultimately chose G.Skill Trident Z5's (was gonna get the Royal Neo's, but fancy Chrome or Gold side pieces really aren't worth an extra $50...but they look nice) at 6000, supposedly the best the 7800x3D. Is that true? Hell, idk, but everyone seems to think so, so I'll follow that pack in this case. And at this point, I'm not convinced one needs more than 32G. When and if that turns out to be untrue, then I'll just spend $110 for another 32G of RAM. And these day's, $110 buys you a Coke at McDonald's, so not bad for RAM. :)

[@theonerm2]

I love the Suprim X cards. They are my favorite now. It used to be the Asus ROG Strix that was my favorite, but more recently I've switched to the MSI Suprim X as my favorite kind of card. I had an RTX 4080 Suprim X for a few months and I loved it. It was cool looking, and it could overclock to over 3GHz on the core. I don't remember the memory overclock, but the card was awesome.

[@theivadim]

Nice! Did you swap it for another GPU then?

[@theonerm2]

@@theivadim I did. I get mine through CuttingEdgeGamer so I switched. I ended up with an Asus Tuf RTX 4070 Ti Super. I didn't keep the Suprim X because of the price. It was $165 a month.

[@theivadim]

What are your thoughts on the 4070 Ti SUPER compared to the 4080 SUPER?

[@theonerm2]

​@@theivadim It's 20% cheaper, and the 4080 Super is only 13% faster on average. I think nobody would notice the 13% difference in performance unless the fps were already too low to begin with. I think they would notice the $200 more in their pocket a lot more than the 13% higher fps.

[@theivadim]

True. Personally, I enjoyed using the 4070 Ti SUPER paired with a 4K monitor. The only thing that was noticeable is ray tracing experience. All current-gen GPUs struggle with ray tracing. Having even extra 15-20% more FPS in this case is quite noticeable.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Insanely good temps and I thought my strix 4080 super was good at 61c maxed out 4k. It's so silent though but yeah probably my lian li air mini case only using 3 fans haha. Can I ask do you use display port or hdmi? Also what monitor are you using?

[@theivadim]

I use DisplayPort. The monitor in the video is the MSI G321CU. It's OK for the price (around $400) but it's not the best in terms of experience. After trying the MSI 321URX 240Hz OLED 32 inch monitor this one feels underwhelming🙂 But I still enjoy it. Also, I use the MSI 341CQP QD-OLED ultrawide as my daily driver these days.

[@mychriss]

Nice video an a wonderfull card! what is your keyboard?

[@theivadim]

I'm glad you enjoyed it!🙂 The keyboard you see in this video is Akko MOD 007B HE

[@valkyriegus]

I have a 850w currently will that work with this card and a 7800x3d? Or should I get a 1000w psu?

[@theivadim]

850W is plenty. As long as it's a decent-quality power supply. I wouldn't upgrade it.

[@ktfaisal4096]

please suggest me a good motherboard so confused from last 20days. I'm building Ryzen 9800x3d along with Msi 4080 Super Suprim X (DDR5 64gb Ram)

[@theivadim]

The MSI X870 Tomahawk is impressive! I used it to build my latest PC featuring the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, and it works flawlessly. Check out my latest video if you want to see that build and how it performs in games.

[@QuanTanRs]

What motherboard do you prefer for am5?

[@PatrickDG]

I personally use Gigabyte aroes b650m elite ax and im running a 7950x3d. The heat sinks and vrm for it is pretty good, but I dont overclock though so yeah lol. I also put the msi b650 mag edge and that thing is SOLID!!

[@theivadim]

Can't go wrong with MSI Tomahawk or ASRock B650M HDV/M.2 if you want the cheapest option that can still handle anything all the way up to Ryzen 9.

[@mrhassell]

Use anything BUT Gigabyte or Aorus. They have more security flaws than any other motherboard manufacturer. MSI overclock all their boards, such as the Tomahawk. Anything from MSI is still good but better for Intel really above their very mediocre PRO boards, which are cheap rubbish and unless you plan on spending decent money, avoid ASRock as they are also garbage. ASUS ROG is where you should be looking for AM5 - Very decent but not O.T.T > ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI MB, B650

[@GameslordXY]

​​@@mrhassell ​@mrhassell MSI has some good , even very good Pro boards. MSI Pro B650-P WiFi MSI Pro B650-A WiFi are all great value for money . Especially P-WiFi version. According to TechSpot/Hardware Unboxed . That ASUS board is quite expensive and ASUS has been through a lot of controvercy regarding honoring RMA's with their motherboards. As for Asrock , they also have some good, even very good boards. Such as Steel Legend series and LiveMixer .

[@randysalsman6992]

@@mrhassell Asus, seriously? Yeah, back in the day I'd have recommend them too, but nowadays they are so bad, weht down hill harder then then Jack from Jack and Jill. Asrock have actually improved their rizz a lot over these last few generations, and I'd recommend them if you're on a budget. If you're not so budget restricted, I'd go with MSI. I can't say anything about their custumer support because I don't know enough about it, but I know their build quality on their motherboards and graphic gards are second to know. An example of this is their gpraphics cards, they have included in fuse's where no other manufacturer have, so if there are any dangerious power surges their card will be much better off then everyone elses.

[@KapinKrunch]

I love mine

[@UltraGaming-by5eq]

Have coil whine in this card?

[@theivadim]

None

[@UltraGaming-by5eq]

@@theivadim Can you Recording video about coil whine? And coil whine can give damage to GPU?

[@randysalsman6992]

MSI rarely if ever get coil whine or at least bad enough coil whine to annoy the end user.

[@mrhassell]

DLSS is the product you buy with 40 series cards. It makes no difference, using a 4070 to a 4080 really, both require DLSS to be enabled to make the card consistent at 4K. Save your money and get a 4070, special or not, it makes little difference and uses 2560x1440, QHD (Quad HD) or WQHD (Wide Quad HD) instead of wasting time with UHD 3840x2160 4K. If you want 4K native, without DLSS, buy a 4090 or save some cash and buy an AMD card, like the AMD Radeon RX 7990 XTX... with crap AMD drivers and mediocre RT, being a good reason why you might even consider just holding onto your cash, for now.

[@theivadim]

Yeah, so far I feel like the best NVIDIA options are the 4070 SUPER or 4070 Ti SUPER or alternatively the 4090. 4080 SUPER is a strange one in between that is difficult to recommend.

[@GameslordXY]

​@@theivadim 4070Ti Super doesn't provide significant jump over 4070 Super. So either 4070 Super or 4080 Super. 4070Ti Super is great choice mostly for content creators that cannot afford 4080/4080Super or better. 16GB is very useful in DaVinchi Resolve to proffesionals with no more than 1500$ budget.

[@GameslordXY]

Oh common, 7900XTX is quite good for 4K without upscaling. It just depends on player's needs and willingness to lower some setting a bit from Ultra to High . Like clouds or distant shadows and such that most people probably don't notice much without side by side comparisons . Maybe few other setting as well. 7900XTX is between 4080 Super and 4090 in performance without upscaling . Ever heard of Intel's XeSS? Often better than FSR and most versions can be used on AMD cards as well. And Nvidia cards. Apparently in some games DLSS isn't best .

[@mrhassell]

@@theivadim Completely agree! 👍

[@Fronioll9973]

​@@GameslordXYbut it's also more expensive than 4080 super ik my area and performance is the same 5 6 fps difference only lol then why should I go for xtx

[@eikbolha5883]

Nôt gonna lie i love my gigabyte rx 7900gre oc gaming but this Rtx 4080 super looks sexy hmmmm noice design but boy he thicc.

[@theivadim]

Extra thicc😄

[@eikbolha5883]

​@theivadim yos i bet that gpu sag bracket bé Like 💪🤫🧏🗿👌

[@unik0016]

Amazing Video 🎉About That Gpu As You Said Ask Me Anything Then Tell Me Which Spice Food Is Your Favorite And If You Have Any Chance To Go Any Place With Your Family / Friends / Love All Them Then Where You Want To Go

[@theivadim]

Japanese Chicken Katsu Curry. And I'd visit Japan. Not just for curry😄

[@unik0016]

@@theivadim Oh Nice They Have Awesome Looking Places Sir And You Know Leaf Rain From Trees 😁 When Some Day I'll Collect Enough Money To Tour India Then Visit Other Countries

[@theivadim]

Nice! Let's keep working hard to achieve our goals💪

[@unik0016]

@@theivadim Thankyou Sir 😄 💖💖💖 💕💕💕

[@Chiefgeargrinder]

Would be a nice card for $ 699. Definitely not worth a Bean.

[@Crofly74]

I have this card is good

[@DiegoWorlitz]

Love your videos buddy but I thim you really should focus on lower budget hardware. This expensive cards, the ones who can buy it they don't even look at benchmarks... wishing you much success on the channel.

[@theivadim]

Thanks for the support!🤝🙂 I do my best to feature a variety of hardware on my channel. I'd like to keep it fair. Also, surprisingly my data shows that videos featuring higher tier GPUs usually get more views and engagement than those featuring mainstream GPUs such as the RTX 4060 and RX 7600, etc.

[@ohnobro3770]

@@theivadimthis makes sense, people watch what they want not what they have

[@GameslordXY]

They do indeed watch benchmarks. These cards while very potent aren't omnipotent and buying 1000$ card doesn't mean that someone has money to throw around. Most are likely simply people who were saving few months or even few years so that they can at at some point pull the trigger and invest to a stron-very strong PC. 4090 owners(well some of them)as well .

[@bradg4959]

Just bought this card and I confirm that yes we do indeed check out benchmarks. At the very least im just excited for it so im just watching videos on it.

[@KinGaming401]

My 4080 super slim don’t go over 51 degrees 🎉

[@weirdo8435]

still too loud.