IWD Breaks Down Dantes & Yamato Drama

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[@ethanbarlow6479]

listening to dom talk about like actual high elo + competitive junglers thought process is nice and refreshing

[@forgeree]

i forgot hes the grandpa jungler goat

[@cause951]

but whats so crazy about this is that dantes a high elo jungler doesnt understand some simple stuff bout the game actually shows u how bad u can be and still hit high ranks so sad

[@silvakozaur384]

@@cause951he is a master jg

[@cause951]

@@silvakozaur384 ah ok but why is he arguing anyways then when he's not even chall stupid

[@demonslayer203]

@@silvakozaur384He hits challenger when heca is in a good spot but thats about it. On heca, (in solo queue) he is bottom chall, GM at least. Off heca, he looks like a diamond player ngl

[@damonchan1896]

the more i watch dantes play these "for fun tourneys" it makes me realize he turns his brain off (no flame intended) and just autopilots throughout the game, looking at agurin diane compared to dantes was really hard to watch

[@Darkyryus_]

Welcome to dantes games

[@XIplupIX]

You are comparing rank 1 every season euw solo que player, and erl expiernce jingler to a streamer who is mostly an otp (still hit Chall). Like compare Yamato to noway4u or nemesis and fence to any support who doesn't go TF support into kalista Pyke

[@yihadistxdl951]

@@XIplupIX i feel like fence just tilts easily especially if his adc is not good but hes actually incredibly talented at the game, which youll see if you watch ratirl streams

[@yihadistxdl951]

@@XIplupIX also dantes can hit chall when hecarim is op in the meta and thats about it. hes a hecarim merchant thats just how it is

[@yihadistxdl951]

its not exactly surprising that the chinese superserver rank 1 challenger jungler and consistently one of the best junglers in the world is better than the hecarim merchant who can maybe hit challenger barely if his champion happens to be broken in the current meta

[@kuematah6300]

Yamato is hella toxic but dantes do be yaping

[@truonghenry4245]

Real

[@holiday2718]

better to be a yapper than hella toxic plus a yapper tbf

[@dip9995]

Not just yapping. He’s trash at jungle

[@Sam-m6o3j]

@@holiday2718 Better to be toxic and know what youre talking about than be a yapper and have an opinion on every issue without any clue.

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

​@@holiday2718 don't spesk.

[@StylessZ]

Yamato should thank you for explaining his point without screaming like a 5 year old

[@VnD77]

That AK analogy was WILD AF. Love it!

[@yihadistxdl951]

classic dom :D

[@KuoOwen]

That's why we love him

[@styx953]

Meanwhile Baus team invited some random support Baus found in solo queue... The contrast 😆

[@coupdegrace2767]

wdym, didn't Baus pick AzzApp as his sup? They were probably filling for scrims or something

[@ligmaballs2482]

​@@coupdegrace2767exactly... they got stomped by 350ms midbeast and rando support

[@vert1]

Man if azzapp is a random to you then I hope that changes soon. Bc that dude is entertaining and extremely good on velkoz

[@scardeo]

​@vert1 nah he's saying for the scrim in this video they had a random because azzap couldn't play yet.

[@vert1]

@@scardeo oh bet, my bad

[@th3summoner]

"For fun Tournament" "10k prize pool" Pick one lmao both can't be true. Whoever ran this HAS to know people would tryhard for money. If you really want to have a reward for people to try to be competitive, make the prize pool 10k to a charity of your choice or something. Wild to throw money in front of people's faces and expect them not to tryhard.

[@Saintzel]

Depending on the streamer, 2k (10k split 5 ways) isn’t that much money. It’s nice of course, but the two statements can be true.

[@crysoarl7344]

@@Saintzel What's the prize money in Ahri skins?

[@chombers]

​@@Saintzel2,000 USD might not be a lot of money for you, but it is for almost everyone else, including the vast majority of the players in this tournament.

[@marcinsadowski7230]

​@@chombers And Dantes and yamato are tryharding the most (getting emotional) so idk if it is valid point (cuz u know they get more from 1 stream literally)

[@therickroller2358]

​@@Saintzelbro IDC if I have Bill Gates lvl money u tell me I can WIN 2k I'm playing my fkin heart out simply for the same reason I will always eat free food, it's food that I didn't have, the only thing you learn when u get rich is that "enough" doesn't exist

[@mlgbblade5221]

Compare to CBOLAO, Yamato has definitely tried to improve and we can clear see him giving his own argument here. Instead of pointless flame(like he did to tarzaned in cbolao), here he actually explains why he doesn’t agree. That’s already a step up. Yeah he’s just toxic, but he has 120% improved his attitude.

[@eVillGaming-eng]

if this is improved I don't want to see how he was like before

[@mlgbblade5221]

@@eVillGaming-eng you most certainly do not want to see how he was like during cbolao, it’s was unbearable, here he’s not bad

[@mister_snoogles9031]

never watched this guy before but i wont really frame this as "toxic" persay more just a little too aggressive and on the nose with his comments. had to google what you a said and holy crap yeah this is an improvement in attitude

[@Insharai]

super cool insight, it's really cool to hear jungle insight on these situations xD as a mid player I feel like I get into these sorts of ideas commonly and it's very hard to articulate these, especially in the moment.

[@Archielolol]

Is it hard for fence to just say to his adc "let's recall here"? scrims are for improving anyways

[@user-us3xi7se5b]

Fence is mad about wave management😂

[@xellos5]

@@user-us3xi7se5b of course he is mad about wave. Thats literally his job lol. If his wave is mismanaged his team will suffer, surely this not a hard concept to understand

[@user-us3xi7se5b]

@@xellos5 It's really not, but for some people it is :( But on the bright side, now we know you can still make it into a semi-pro semi-serious tournament without knowing wave management.

[@hitlast1]

@@xellos5 yeah and its literally the only thing ADC has control of in the game so its frustrating if they mismanage the waves or don't auto attack during a fight lol

[@rajder656]

@@user-us3xi7se5b you can get to GM without knowing wave management

[@Jordan-kl6zt]

That rant and the end fucking killed me

[@nilsb.4906]

I think one big reason why these discussions become so heated so fast is because the league community in general is very toxic and people adapt to it by using the toxic formulations themselves. For example when Dante says that his plan was to take krugs and then look for a kill on Jhin, he could have explained this and then ask his teammates afterwards: What did you expect me to do instead and why? Instead he instantly uses formulations like "there is legitimately no reason...". I remember when a very friendly AoE2 Steamer (Hera) switched to league of legends for some months. After just a few weeks of playing league he also adapted this toxic "my team is trash, i need to 1v9"-communication

[@jesse8442]

dom gotta coach dantes

[@DB-ty6tq]

Tarzaned already tried Dantes doesn’t listen or learn he just autopilots and yaps every game

[@yihadistxdl951]

@@DB-ty6tq yea thats true dom is a fantastic coach but if tarzaned cant coach his ass then dom is just wasting time as well. cant coach someone whos uncoachable

[@jesse8442]

@@DB-ty6tq idk i dont think tarzaned is a good coach who actually commands dantes' attention

[@tylercourtney6585]

@@jesse8442 Tarzaned is a fantastic coach, he's actually pretty chill these days.

[@titanattackbee1985]

cant really coach someone to be smarter tbh

[@szabel.]

16:25 facts. and the thought process is also how people cope with their own mistakes/project instead of trying to learn from them. so wild people can't take a broad concept and apply it in multiple places.

[@mapu6244]

OMG IM BLOOMING!

[@Trenntman]

drutt, iwd, yamato, rat, fence in some tournament, i need it now

[@Miguel211216]

Hahahaha that shit would implode in the first 15 minutes hahahaha

[@CJTallon]

Dantes complains so much when people talk over him but I don't think I've ever seen anyone finish their point in a discussion without him talking over them

[@JPLX99]

Yamit & fence are right dantes afk pve

[@Darkyryus_]

HE IS NOT AN HECARIM OTP BTW!!!

[@yihadistxdl951]

@@Darkyryus_ hecarim merchant master stucker cant play jungle competitively (i am very surprised to find this out)

[@blobfish4693]

He might be right but being nonstop toxic, yelling around and insulting others on your team because of a gameplay mistake at a for fun tournament? like get a grip

[@JPLX99]

@@blobfish4693 you and i both know this isn't a 4fun tournament come on mate

[@JPLX99]

4fun tournament when every team captain is drafting for best possible results, neme/drututt arguing with aribo, spearshot/nattynot ghosting baus and azzapp, people saying caedrel getting involved via 1 pick is cheating, whole thing is a circus fest. you can stay in your delusion but this is not a 4fun tournament with all the CINEMAS moments happening

[@flameofthegame]

For fun tournament cant be really for fun when usually people that are High elo are very competitive ,so even if the stakes arent high ,people just cant bring themselves to look bad in games .

[@yihadistxdl951]

and also it aint a for fun tournament if the price for first place is 10k :D

[@flameofthegame]

@@yihadistxdl951 for most of those streamers 2k each is not even felt tbh ,but yeah I agree when money is involved people are more competitive

[@acatwithwiskers9273]

​@@yihadistxdl951 I certainly wouldn't be playing for fun anymore if there was a cash prize 😅

[@flameofthegame]

@@acatwithwiskers9273 If i was dantes or any of the big streamers ,i would not play serious cuz it doesnt affect their lives ,but the players who are not know or not make income from stream ,for them is serious for obvious reasons

[@sophagames]

@@flameofthegame80% of the players are streamers with 100-200 viewers. Of course its a lot of money for the majority

[@the_beemer]

I don't know these people, but they all seem incredibly emotionally immature, my god. "You think xyz, dont interrupt me while I say something wrong without letting you correct it, I want to tell you what youre thinking" and then immediately tries to interrupt him next sentence "Flaming doesn't help" - "Yeah but it's facts"...It's also facts when you tell your grandma that she will statistically speaking die in the next 5-10 years, but you're making everything worse by saying it, so shut up lol Edit: The grandma analogy is a bit weird, the point is just because something is facts doesn't mean saying it helps at any moment. Flaming is different from discussing a mistake though. What they did later in the clip to me is productive and you should do it, especially after the game. I hate flamers, because it never seems like they wanna win the game, they just wanna express that they're not at fault for losing. Also I am not saying Yamato is wrong, just that those guys all seem to lack the people skills to work together

[@thegamehbktaker]

Both are being inmature Yamato lost it completly and flame their adc out of the tournament and Dantes is so dense he cant understand what his teams needs from him in game or because he doesnt understand the game to the degree his team does and didnt try to improve.

[@ranolol]

@@thegamehbktaker I disagree with the premise that Dantes is dense for not doing the correct plays. He just doesn't have a high enough level of understanding of the role and of LoL to do it. That's fine and all, his team kinda needs to give him directive even tho they shouldn't have to.

[@Darkyryus_]

@@thegamehbktaker hes not dense hes just regarded with t

[@jasonyun1158]

They’re trying to uncover or figure out why the game state ended up the way it is. It’s like your grandma got 5 years to live and figuring out why and looking at her lifestyle, not just blatantly telling her she’s gonna die in the next decade. What a bad analogy. People hate flaming but flame when they want to. Who cares? It’s a video game. The dude was correct about the game and Dante’s was yapping about how to deflect blame when he literally doesn’t know how to position himself as a jungler, and yaps like he knows how to. It’s like being upset at a foremen for being angry at an operator for not knowing what he’s doing. So stupid

[@kietey14]

Almost agreed until you said Yamato was wrong. He is in fact right and Dom agreed too. Yea he’s toxic but he’s 100% correct here

[@user-us3xi7se5b]

Dantes and the comment at 14:38 unironically saying "play safe mid"

[@frustusCroKi]

Fence sounds like a non evil version of RAT, the swedish accent is awsome.

[@bilegttsolmon6027]

Obviously i am pisslow so maybe this is stupid af but sounds like every one of Dantes's arguments boil down to "Well IF the enemy makes a mistake, overextends and allows themselves to be chunked i can get them from behind". Like sure you're not wrong technically but in a semi-professional environment making moves hoping the enemy makes a mistake seems insane. 16:10 that was the most american example ever 😂

[@andyhuynh2625]

Cool stuff Dom, anyways where can I get the usual stuff?

[@javi4591]

The last bit was actually wise as fuck bruh. Imma write that shit down, reflect upon it and apply it to my life

[@gelatoglue9615]

that last part of the video just reminded me why dom will always be my goat in the whole wide world

[@gabrielventer493]

Someone needs to make comp League understandable for the general viewer. Our knowledge generally is so damn low man even good players in high elo don't get the game this is crazy

[@davidnymann5423]

Na fundamentals are easy to learn and they've mostly not changed since this game came out, but you have to actually want to get better.

[@itsomegali5342]

this isnt even the drama....this is just one of the million times yamato gets mad at something.

[@balance1619]

Dantes is genuinely trash for how much he plays the game though. Complete auto pilot for fun in all these tourneys

[@asya-35987]

yamatoss behaviour isnt good, but im not suprized hes losing his mind playing with this adc and jg

[@333Yakuta]

Yamato is toxic, but he’s still right about the game. Dantes is a moron

[@liborsysel2234]

​@@asya-35987 He is losing his mind constantly, no matter if he has good players or inters

[@lightknightgames]

Jinx otps should be able to transfer to any hyper because she works mechanically so similar (besides camera control) Zeri, Kog, Xayah, Aphelios, Sivir, and maybe even Ashe. That's 6 champs you don't need to put effort into to play on, if you are a good jinx. (A 55% jinx otp is fkn horrible btw, champ is nutty broken if you have the micro. Should be like 60% minimum before claiming jinx otp)

[@midnightmoonlight9158]

you can't realisticly have a 10k prize for the winners and say is a for fun tournament

[@kyletenorio8541]

And this is why coaches exist to mediate things like these and keep the emotions in check

[@Ecliptor.]

"he's a one trick, why is he playing in this tournament?" isn't that the case for most players invited to it?

[@Cashmoneez]

Dante’s is a just streamer bro don’t know nothing about team play

[@marlvelius]

my biggest issue with dantes is he takes two pages to write one word same guy "chat im like the guy!...im like the guy chat. chat im...like the guy!" communication is key and gotta be able to get a point across without fucking goin on for a half hour

[@anofans]

Dantes doesnt give a shit about objectives, tempo and positioning. He just press E with heca and whatever happens. I mean i watched many times when he got overfed and manage to die before big objectives trying to assasin adc. And with that his team lost tempo and the game in the end

[@followerofthechurchofsumi3868]

dantes seems not very good and also not willing to take responsibility...

[@belasstrongestwarrior]

Well he bans everyone who disagrees with him.

[@dragonyoshi1]

Dantes is that jungler that ganks on a huge wave and dies to the enemy laner then question mark pings you because HE fed.

[@forresthgump5353]

The Dom at the end is my favorite Dom.

[@_papasparta_-txc-4730]

I mean yamato obviously takes it way to far, but it is quite tilting when you have a jungler that doesnt want to learn how to play with the team. Only thing dantes said that can fix it is the communicating, but I'll admit thats not always easy when you have to focus on the game itself too.

[@pityvoted]

the hec one trick not understanding diana wow so shocked XD

[@beppa8001]

bro the analogy at the end killed me in laughter XDDDD

[@deadmanwalking7953]

finally the reaction ive been waiting for

[@BlackbeardKNAC]

This is what you get when you think a popular content creator automatically equals a competent player, those things are not mutually exclusive

[@stalliondave9338]

A for fun tournament is impossible to have with a bunch of very competitive dudes and a decent prize pool. To be for fun would would have to have like 3 silver and below players or everyone is fully off role, and not their secondary role. Put them in a place where no one can have an ego or have expectations to win

[@gosozoey398]

What i dont understand is why is dantes hovering bot with all his top camps up. I watch a lot of proplay but correct me if im wrong, most of the time junglers hover in mid just for pressure and making sure their mid is safe, or help shove the wave. Does dantes think that in order for a jungler to be effective is get kills through ganks? I mean yeah, getting kills is good, but just your mere presence being there would be more than enough no?

[@tamdang8346]

Someone will disagree with me but here is the reality only support is required to help mid hold the wave or collect it not the junglers. NA and EU copy from other regions but they dont understand the real reason. Junglers have camps to clear support rotate mid to prepare for objective or help mid prep the wave and the back. Junglers mostly farm around the time when they are about to reach lvl 6. In high elo people loves talking about macro but they dont understand, no one rotates 4 people just for the mid laner to get 6 cs in the middle of the lane which he could do under his tower and lost 1 or 2 mostly 😅😅

[@gosozoey398]

@@tamdang8346 I understand, but if you watch any pro play from lck or lpl you can see that there are times where jungler hover mid just to pressure. Its not that the junglers will get the cs, but will only help to laner to relieve the pressure from ganks and bad waves.

[@tamdang8346]

@@gosozoey398 i watch both of them.... jungler only hover mid when all camps are cleared and objectives are next.....something happened at mid lane sp will always get moved first as they are dispensable and if your adc is senna rotating them mid to protect mid laner to collect the way is nice 3 cant make a play on 2 unless you got chunk or played like a moron likr YMT, dom is retired he lost his senses anyways

[@gosozoey398]

@@tamdang8346 i mean i would rather believe someone retired and watches league almost everyday, than someone who have no experience in any competitive environment like you, no offense tho.

[@tamdang8346]

@@gosozoey398 none taken.... we judge not insult but that is my opinion dom is a great streamer and t1 hater hihi loves his channel whenever t1 lost....

[@mugiwarasenju_4420]

this is a banger

[@sunglee4303]

so couldn't dantes just walk through mid lane towards his top camps and at least show presence so it deters the enemy team from making a play in mid/also gets all of his top camps?

[@mypotatoesarenice]

if dantes can hit challenger, everyone can. it's not even a question holy moly

[@jklul4210]

dantes instead of walking through mid exerting pressure in the fight and maybe saving his supp/mid some hp, then walking to his own raptors camp to do a camp hit 6 and still be around midlane to deter a play from enemy team, decides to walk to enemy raptors pit looking for a flash play on corki (that is never going to work in a sane person's eyes), murders his tempo then goes enemy krugs and murders tempo even more. so many things wrong with this sequence from him i cant even believe he's challenger

[@ApexGale]

this tournament is just showing exactly why most of these players failed pro play tryouts, they play tournaments with solo queue mindsets then get mad when they lose to actually coordinated teams

[@eternalgamers10]

Dantes knows how to farm drama, and act like he didn't do anything 😂. Just like Brazil. All he does is PVE, and that's it. I find it funny when they were in Brazil and Tarzan filled into JG role, they won every game. I love the AK analogy this is why I'm subbed to Dom fking top tier. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks that way 😂.

[@user-sp9po5qi9q]

Yamato would not be so toxic if Dantes wasn't consistently the most shit player on the teams he plays on lmao.

[@bluwlvrine]

So Dantes is forcing him to be toxic? Lol what a clown comment. You can communicate with your teammates and tell them they are not playing well without being a toxic dick about it.

[@blobfish4693]

He got disqualified for flaming the adc. He's toxic to every single person cause he's a piece of shit. That's why it hasn't worked out a single time where he got invited to be on a team cause he just starts screaming like a 5yo lmao

[@nikolakrastev8880]

All of this just shows me that these people (the players) have the maturity and social skills of a homeschooled 15 year old

[@aradan3913]

I need dom to break down some of this games (maybe he has and i dont know)

[@Heimea523]

I always hated when 9 people I knew were on league and someone suggested a custom game. I always want to play for fun but the other team always picks super try hard. It takes the "for fun" right out of the game.

[@SteveNguyen-jk3fg]

Lol dom analogy is funny, but that said his criticism makes sense. What dantes did pretty much put himself behind

[@wandringhobo4321]

He went wild at the end there really funny.

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

I mean let’s be honest, Dantes is an objectively bad player in this environment. You can’t struggle while being an OTP. That just doesn’t fly in these type of conversations especially when he keeps turning his brain off for some reason.

[@acatwithwiskers9273]

He's hit challenger, I don't watch him at all but your not a bad player if your in challenger.

[@abdullapankhawala3814]

True your not a bad soloq player. But competitive is a whole different game. There's a reason why agurinn never made it out of erl's while being rank 1 everywhere w crazy win rate. Same with tfblade

[@Sam-m6o3j]

@@abdullapankhawala3814 TF blade would be very decent in a competitive team tho.

[@mwbwyatt]

@@Sam-m6o3j TF blade wouldnt be a good competitive teammate for the same reason that tarzaned cant, *maybe* if they can swallow their egos theyd be able to, but its hard to imagine that theyd be good teammates

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

@@acatwithwiskers9273 I forgot to write in the context of tournaments. The guy seems to just turn off his brain off and gets mad after. You’d think he’d learn more champs by this point.

[@Eins.1]

16:16 you can say restarted on twitch?

[@moiseschavez772]

This tournament looking like a life or death tourney lol

[@1ycan-eu9ji]

Dantes got popular before he was actually good at the game so he doesn't listen to players who actually understand the game, people are afraid to call out his trash plays

[@aimy5637]

So where are the iwd is a yamato fanboy comments for iwd defending yamato game decision and knowledge over dantes

[@Ancient_Path]

IWD coaching when

[@TileBitan]

they literally won the first game without him tho x)

[@lalberodellenocciole5279]

10k is overall prizepool or first place? Does it mean 2k each player? Idk very well how this players are doing financially but i suppose apart from the top streamers the other really dont wanna sleep on 2k haha its not for fun

[@yihadistxdl951]

yea xddd

[@bojunchoi6354]

i dont think any top streamer not going to pass up on 2k + publicity either money is money

[@WickedSL]

clueless and toxic will play again in the next tournament, do not worry

[@meane590]

Is this the infamous brazil team

[@thegamehbktaker]

No this is the the for the NNO tournament. This is actually worst than the Brazil arc. Here Yamato flame the fuck out their adc and left and then Yamato got DQ for toxicity.

[@meane590]

Ty for the info i remember the tarzan vs dantes argument so i alrdy had a feeling who was right in this convo lol

[@qwertzu1195]

no, its at least 3x worse

[@BrokDoidao]

Keep in mind the ADC they are flaming is better than 99.9% of you in chat, and dantes deserves flame just like him lmfao

[@magisteriumemporium1411]

Dantes is the Destiny of League of Legends

[@Lincy7734]

Baus is playing for fun in this tournament, i mean he has Midbeast... who is playing from Australia... with 300+ ping 😂

[@menacetuxedocat]

This is drama?

[@yihadistxdl951]

well the AFTERMATH of what happened in this video is the drama. yamato flamed the adc hard here so yamato actually gets disqualified from the entire tournament for this. also the adc in the team ragequits the entire tournament because yamato and fence keep flaming him for being shit at the game. i mean yamato and fence are right about the things they criticize but they were way too mean here, hes still part of the team. dantes is just being delusional and a shit jungler as per usual hes a hecarim merchant that can reach challenger if hecarim is broken in the meta. anyway aftermath is that yamato and ikaant will both be removed from the roster and now dantes doesnt have a midlaner nor an adc. yamato is toxic but he is unfortunately completely correct about the situation gameplaywise, which obviously is reflected by fence saying the exact same thing. and fence DEFINITELY knows how to play this game

[@henrydunne3051]

The problem with dantes vs yamato is that neither one of them actually understands jungle so they end up both saying shit thats completely wrong lmfao

[@belasstrongestwarrior]

One of them is a jungler

[@dawsonkelly7087]

Yamato isn't meant to be on any competitive team change my mind

[@wwekings9505]

Same with Dante

[@dawsonkelly7087]

@@wwekings9505 I think Dante outside of content creation could be a better teammate, I don’t see a chance for Yamato.

[@myskygrey]

@@dawsonkelly7087 Tell me you're pisslow without telling me. Surely your pissbrain can use simple logic as mid mad because team dog shit. Yamato would never get this mad playing with game sense above diamond and not two donkey one tricks ruining the game.

[@wilhoroshak5035]

Dante’s is a trash OTP who only hits high elo when Hecarim is S tier champion. He’s not competitive, his content is him yapping and farming drama, not his gameplay.

[@meinardsl]

Dantes is either delusional or trolling but that does not excuse Yamato just being c*ncer. I can appreciate Yamato at least trying to express his opinion but at some point you have to understand that you're talking to a brick wall.

[@SilQ92]

i like how semi grownup man-child's fight about imaginary pixel heroes and debate who was supposed to do what. Kinda feels like my banking job ^.^

[@SwayNoir]

People can't debate a hobby that they are passionate about? So what that its pixels. People debate sports the same way. People debate, and get heated about, politics even though they are regular joes with no influence on politics at all. Whats wrong with that? You sound so cringe and boring trying to act all "holier than thou" but you're here watching videos about them arguing about pixels so I guess you're worse than them? "Banking job" lol fuck me.

[@firstnamelastname754]

Looking back you realise that Dantes only hits Chall or high GM when Hecarim is the most disgustingly broken and overpowered flavour of the month champion, all he did was decide on a full clear route and start yapping about miniscule details about his pathing in game to make hismelf look like a smart player. When Hecarim finally got tuned down and he had to expand his champion pool in late s13 to early s14, ngl he got exposed really hard, man was literally stuck in NA Diamond for months, claiming that he was "theory crafting" and haven't found the best Hecarim build yet. I remember at one point he was literslly building Manamune into Zekes☠️☠️. Dantes is an entertaining streamer dont get me wrong I ain't tryna hate, but he is a very average player compared to players like Baus Nemesis or RatIRL, he's just not good enough and doesn't recognise the fact that he has a mountain of things to improve on

[@Weiinerman]

People noticed this now when the dus tournament almost a year ago was the first sign that he's literal horse ass

[@kiiraa_11]

Playing with someone that's constantly toxic to everyone else, even his friends, has to be a horrible experience. People defending Yamato's toxicity because "dantes bad xd" are insanely cringe

[@abdullapankhawala3814]

Nobody here is defending Yamato being an assohole perma. Dantes always gets away with it perma cuz he justs keep yapping and isn't as toxic. So people are also putting blame on Dantes for being a bad jungler. Also this is a sweaty af tourney. If your new to these types of things, there will be always be atleast 2-3 people flaming each other in these team environments. Yamato is as an assohole yes, but in these environments your bound to get this type of flaming. Dantes is just not good enough individually or knowledgeable enough about the game to be able handle these situations as a team captain within the team because he is just so perma stubborn and will just be obtuse to anything you say to him. Look at team nemises, thier unofficial captain miella is soo good at mediating this flame and getting thier team to perform even though druttut, nemises and aribo are constantly at each other's throats. Basically what I'm trying to say is that what Yamato does happens probably in every 10th amateur lol team. It's still inexcusable behaviour. But in a team environment, responsibility also falls on the captain of the team to navigate through this flame and get your team working together. Unfortunately Dantes doesn't have that to be playing in this level tournament and that's why blame should also be put on him

[@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV]

Who was defending Yamato? This play was all about Dantes being wrong... and people still said that Yamato was being toxic.

[@belasstrongestwarrior]

It's better to be toxic than bad at a tournament

[@DK-ep2ov]

dantes doesnt know how to jungle it's true, he knows how to hecarim

[@davidgork4185]

Critizing Kaan for being a Jinx one trick in tournament FULL of one tricks is so hypocritical.... There's Lathyrus (Bard OT), Elite 500 (Vlad OT), Baus (Sion OT), Sloppy Walrus (Gragas OT), SpearShot (Panth OT), Brohan (Yas/Yone two trick i guess), and in Yamatos own Team are multiple OTs with Dantes one tricking Heca.... super invalid argument.

[@Andy-dw7nj]

Yeah but they can actually play other champs apart from Dantes and sloppy

[@bojunchoi6354]

i hope dantes watched this clip

[@neopolitan4944]

No audio?

[@7gonzalopuertas]

Dantes see camp->clear camp. Nothing else mathers 🐴

[@manuelgoncalves4937]

Why u guys blaming Yamato man, he's just trying to survive in Battle Royale

[@deadmanwalking7953]

is there a such thing as a for fun tourney in league? xD

[@mister_snoogles9031]

lol, dantes seemed pretty calm. dont really like people that act like yamato, low eq high iq types where when theyre right they dont care how they sound or make others feel when you project their opinions. you guys are on the same team, act like it, no need to throw a hissy fit bc someone who may not be as good as you at a subject messed up. berating dantes wont get you anywhere and infact will put you further back and build up resistance to what you say in the future.

[@Pigraider268]

Idk I feel like it's the knowledge people in gold eune knows

[@ElZedLoL]

I mean iKaant was lastpick on the draft. You prioritize power elsewhere that should be able to compensate for your more forced, later picks. Yap yap yap cry cry cry

[@geegee5970]

Dantes wants ppl to take his skills seriously but he is so lost the entire game if he isn't on his 1trick heca

[@itznukeey]

Wtf that ending hahaha

[@dayne6475]

Dantes is completely braindead when it comes to the game but Yamato is completely braindead socially

[@fncinazuma878]

I think like cinkrof's team and nemezis's team will stomp this shit

[@kotikkotik945]

Idk if stomp is the right word for Nemesis team, they had to reverse sweep their first series and their wins were of of out scaling the enemy after they fumbled their lead, banger series but far from a stomp

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

Dantes is a player who drives you nuts to play with cause he plays for himself constantly and yaps

[@briancarlson9778]

Clearly the Diana should go mid here. That way they can fight 3 v 5 xD

[@radjivtirou315]

Why do your eyes do not look in the same direction ?

[@ascissordollynamedgwen9409]

that ak-47 analogy... I duno thats kinda crazy and very different

[@asdf0747]

i think thats the point. i think Dom's referring Dantes gaslighting as ak-47.... if not, i agree with you.

[@333Yakuta]

@@asdf0747he’s making a point that not all mistakes are equal mistakes you can’t go through life going “well he did it so I did something worse back”

[@whis1272]

minor mistake of driving past a pool of water - to play safe mid and recall, losing 2 waves of minion major mistake of gunning the driver down - dantes horrible pathing to krugs and not hovering mid which resulted in mid dying and losing more tempo the point is to fix major mistakes aka dantes’ pathing and situational awareness, instead of asking yimit to just play safe and give up his lane

[@LegendJoe3063]

Tomato is tryhard toxic as F no wonder he was THE PROBLEM in KC.

[@persephone9360]

Okay when you said yamato i thought you meant YAMATO. Not some pissrandom

[@myskygrey]

profile less acne face (probably) random on yt calling 3k andy a random LOL

[@MemeAdicction]

Well to everything I disagree to the whole play, seems ass, you have 0 engage diana without level 6, Shen and milio, dantes team comp looks pretty ass tbh vs their pokeish comp

[@petarpetrov1784]

I really don't see how Diana hovering mid would help in this situation. What Dom explains is correct in the general situation but in this specific one there are only 2 possible plays she could make. Either insta run bot to kill Jhin (prob hard to do he has both sums but maybe possible) or insta recall and go top camps. If she covers mid - they lose the 3v3 because of their hp situation and they can't stay longer because side lanes have prio now as Dom explained. So in the "long" term Akshan will always lose cs. Akshan best play is to insta press base right after they cleared the wave instead of waiting for next wave. In this case both of them with Milio get to recall and salvage some of the tempo and lose just 1 wave and maybe not even a plate because Corki has low mana and hp and he would not stick to push the plate. In competitive game I would instantly base with and run to my top camps because it is the higher percentage play. Edit: Rewatching it the best would be Akshan Milio Diana recall at 7:18 in game (or right after the aggressive play ends) and Shen stays to catch the wave. Diana goes top camps Milio can open top or bot and Akshan either goes mid and Shen bases or Akshan goes top and Shen catch another wave mid. The last Dom point is really important - yes Diana should have been top side in the first place but this was not what they argued about.

[@paulneun3356]

jesus bro the millenialcore meltdown tho :D