Facecheck S02E23 - "TSM's Bot Lane Was Set Up For Failure"

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#IWillDominate #Facecheck #Podcast
00:00 Intro
04:40 Yone not allowed at Worlds
13:05 Thoughts on Lillia in competitive play
14:15 Dom on LPL Playoffs
18:30 Round 1 of LCS Playoffs
21:11 Ryoma's performance in Playoffs
27:21 A look forward to 2021 for 100T
36:00 Value of Mid lane in competitive play
38:50 Ways of developing and finding rookies
42:40 Finding talent via amateur scene
45:33 Credentials of coaches and analysts in LCS
1:00:58 TSM VS GGS Playoffs Series
1:10:30 Losing to Shopkeeper

[@IWDominatelol]

04:40 Yone not allowed at Worlds 13:05 Thoughts on Lillia 14:15 Dom on LPL Playoffs 18:30 Round 1 of LCS Playoffs 21:11 Ryoma's performance in Playoffs 27:21 A look forward to 2021 for 100T 36:00 Value of mid lane in competitive play 38:50 Ways of developing and finding rookies 42:40 Finding talent via amateur scene 45:33 Credentials of coaches and analysts in LCS 1:00:58 TSM VS GGS Playoffs Series 1:10:30 Losing to Shopkeeper

[@henrym.1290]

You could’ve just pinned the other one😂

[@dapokermon5102]

does this mean rip support and top lane tier lists for summer 2020?

[@MiloticMaster]

Hi Dom/Editor, if you also put the timestamps in the description, it will segment the video. That doesnt work if its in the comments

[@thomaschristensen9469]

i think there also has to be "0:00 intro" for it to be recognized as such

[@iwdclipshighlights2855]

@@MiloticMaster No idea why but it doesn't work if we put in in description ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@oytunes]

LS aka "Leech Seed" (Japanese: やどりぎのタネ Mistletoe Seed) is a non-damaging Grass-type move introduced in Generation I.Leech Seed plants a seed on the target. After a target under the effect of Leech Seed takes its turn, 1/16 of its HP will be drained, and the same amount of HP will be restored to the target's opponent

[@Abc-hn5vz]

So we need to have 14 more episodes of LS flaming TSM draft till is can be dead and remade.

[@ezpeon]

Better build Morello against that one

[@flamekite1679]

@@ezpeon Actually morello procs a secret trap card used by Boris The Almighty, also know as "The shopkeeper", who in his whole might won every competetive match ever in any game known to man.

[@Kyrrua_]

Meh

[@flamekite1679]

@@Kyrrua_ Did you must meh me

[@RiseSoup]

LS Also known as "Last Stand" is a rune in the Precision tree in which you deal 5%-11% increased damage to champions while you are below 60% health. Maximum damage gained at 30% health.

[@yey862]

I don't want anyone to look at me the way Bjergsen looked at Doublelift

[@xuan.1611]

yey i wanna look at someone the way Bjergsen looked ar Doublelift?

[@ensiemen9836]

I love the meme but he probably just looked at Doublelifts screen to see if he was winning the fight in Morde R

[@Kediloveliy]

@@ensiemen9836 I thought he looked when doubleift died

[@ianstedjan9014]

Siemen Kooijman he looked after DL died, and that was the face of pure salt. dl hard trolled that series

[@Tendenciess]

@@ianstedjan9014 idk its a funny moment, but even dom said when watching live that there's camera delay on facecams, and he's looking towards where Doublelifts monitor would be not doublelift himself

[@andreykovachev7002]

LS just a quick reminder - First of all Ibuprofen is not recommended if you have covid, take paracetamol instead. and second about the inhaler - i don't know which one you are using, it looks like salbutamol. You should not be using this more than 2-3 times a day or you will get the side effects that range from increased heart rate to tremors, vomiting, dizziness, agression. I am a medical doctor. Just advice - go and test for Covid as soon as you can.

[@JustShotsForMeh]

He would know, it's like nothing else, feelings like there's water trickling into your lungs.

[@RegretPandas]

Also, the same symptoms can be from anxiety/GERD/allergies all at once. Thats me right now lol

[@chriswheal8204]

@@JustShotsForMeh well he wouldn't. Some experience more severe symptoms than others, thus the need for tests.

[@hugonamenlos7218]

You cant get paracetamol that easy, right?

[@Hematocritical]

@@hugonamenlos7218 Paracetamol is much better than NSAIDs like ibuprofen, since NSAIDs have been shown to trigger Asthma flares. Also Paracetamol is over the counter medication.

[@themlgbrosftw4960]

04:40 Yone not allowed at Worlds 13:05 Thoughts on Lillia in competitive play 14:15 Dom on LPL Playoffs 18:30 Round 1 of LCS Playoffs 21:11 Ryoma's performance in Playoffs 27:21 A look forward to 2021 for 100T 36:00 Value of Mid lane in competitive play 38:50 Ways of developing and finding rookies 42:40 Finding talent via amateur scene 45:33 Credentials of coaches and analysts in LCS 1:00:58 TSM VS GGS Playoffs Series 1:10:30 Losing to Shopkeeper

[@sunsetinseoul]

thanks timestamps guy!

[@rjlamberto8395]

Our hero

[@mrfail532]

Yeah the hero who copy paste the same timestambs from the description

[@TheHipPro]

@@mrfail532 yikes.

[@themlgbrosftw4960]

@@mrfail532 yep cock

[@Will-bp4ri]

LS giving his best iced-tea Kermit impression throughout this podcast

[@revive2033]

Doublelift already in Worlds form!

[@kevinma4249]

X206Killj0yX when has he ever cried about that every roster he was in he wanted to run it back...

[@ericwelch4386]

@@kevinma4249 exactly

[@kevinma4249]

X206Killj0yX I still don’t see how that’s him blaming the jungler and support buddy it seems like the other way around if u wanna argue that doublelift is a passive aggressive player then find it somewhere else

[@AIIu_]

@X206Killj0yX Quitter? DL has literally been one of the best AD's for almost a decade.

[@AIIu_]

@Valek O'Keefe Dude has won 7 lcs championships. Go figure.

[@ChonkyMonkey1]

If it wasn't because Covid was around, I would guess LS is coming down with stress tbh. Man is a working machine with no breaks

[@ornnenjoyer8211]

Can we get some narrative around FBI being a minor region import and dumpstering 100% of major region talent in the bot lane?

[@emsa7esm203]

"I am actually sick", "Feels bad man".

[@joshuaburgos3450]

Yo the look bjerg gave was the legit 'I swear to God' look of death.

[@zvonomir123]

I'm pretty sure Doublelift was in the Realm of Death while Bjergsen was dead, so he looked over to see how it went. (Still funny though)

[@joshuaburgos3450]

@@zvonomir123 I've heard this before but having played in semi competitive environments in CSGO that look, isn't the look I'd give a teammate I'm just curiously watching play, it's the look of 'dude you are 1v9ing for the enemy team you're their fucking MVP PLEASE.' I've never seen bjerg tilt ever but this was definitely a split that cracked his mental a bit

[@iChriZ97]

wether it's crackdown of facecheck, i appreciate the content very much! It's so awesome to have people that actually know about the game talking about it without holding back.

[@powwowken2760]

I really liked the discussion about the coaching situation in LoL, as someone who grew up watching the NHL, NFL, etc. There is a reason why coaches in those leagues get paid so much money, often as much as star players, it can be a very thankless job. When the team is doing bad, everything is your fault and you're likely to be fired before any player gets blamed, and when the team is doing well, people just think you're along for the ride, unless your team wins for multiple years in a row you get almost no respect.

[@lektornese]

as someone who started to watch lpl in 2017 its really cool to see the teams that burst onto the scene back then doing good! (Dan gaming turned into TOP esports and Suning got a spot)

[@Remy10TV]

Someone needs to Clip the part where they say T1 needs to save NA lmao

[@scythegrill4673]

around 44:35

[@lukasdopart6493]

poor dgon doesn’t get to share about his week :(

[@chizzledong6384]

in the titles its also only about dom and ls. feelsbadman

[@KingJerbear]

Well he's kinda like the host

[@Newstory737]

Ikr! Exactly my thoughts. Was kinda sad. I mean I get he's a host and all, but cmon, some common curtosy? No? Ok, you don't give a shit about the guy, but cmon.

[@Kaaarlx]

Yeah i feel you... i think the reason why i like facecheck is that dgon mods it decently well when compared to other league talkshows, at least give the man 30 secs to talk about his week! :P

[@Hunted0LessShirt]

Nah nah nah, leave that good content for the one's using it best, go Venn! (Dom's doing good stuff too don't get me wrong but Venn is so awesome)

[@wakkawakkagaming3710]

The 100T Soul - Baron - Elder throw is truly the stuff of legends. It's like the league equivalent of a running back sprinting into their own endzone.

[@bjornneuhauser6636]

HAHAHA laughed so hard when they just spent 20 mins talking about 100T, Ryoma and Soligo, when Dom himself said "They just don't understand the value of midlane" "You better have a good midlaner", and then 5 min later: "Yeah, if they want another development year, they should try Palafox" xd LS's face

[@m1ck244]

you still got your old socials linked in the outro btw ;)

[@Aemulator.]

Description too!

[@Rille922]

This was really interesting. Love when you bring in other regions

[@SparkytehUnicorn]

A friend referred me here to watch the “Can’t Breathe” podcast, this was not was I was expecting.

[@shadchu3o4]

food for thought, was the zhonya's on the quadra kill zoe a byproduct of zoe building a seeker's armguard in lane? i woudl understand getting the seekers in lane for the sett but completing it seems super sketch until super far into late game.

[@chrisgriffith6718]

I am legitimately curious as to if you think your opinion of what a coach should be able to do themselves is eSport specific. Because it's not something you'll find true in any other realm. So in this video, everyone essentially agrees the coach should be damn good (master tier) and "be able to play with the players." And trust me ... I GET IT. How else can you demonstrate? How else can you show? I mean .. even at a basic level, how else can you earn their respect? But I can't help but look to literally any other realm and find that that school of thinking doesn't hold up (which is why I'm wondering if you all think it's eSport specific). Bill Belicheck, Nick Saben, Greg Popovich, Toni Nadal, Vince Lombardi, Jose Ferguson, Mike Brown, Erik Spoelstra, Frank Martin, ... hell, even Anatoli Tarasov (look that one up) could never be able to play with their players. None that I mentioned played at the pro level. Many petered out in/after college or regionally. Conversely, we've seen in both traditional sports AND eSports that former players don't necessarily mean they're great (or even 'good') coaches. In fact, many of the most successful college coaches of all time very clearly did not play beyond that level .. but have coached players to go beyond that level. Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Geno Auriemma, Nick Saban .. the list could go on and on. In other words, these coaches are able to take talent and propel them far beyond where they personally ever could go. There's a reason Krzyzewski is asked every 4 years to coach our olympic team .. even pros think he's the best. Players that never had him or went to college like LeBron are in awe of his coaching and give him mad respect. To add, it is said in many interviews by these college coaches that they almost find it a detriment to have former top players as head coaches. In their fields, many of those types of former-players have a "this is how it's always been done so this is how we will do it" or a "this is what worked for me and it's all I know" type of attitude. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. And like I started .. I'm very legitimately curious as to thoughts on this.

[@chrisgriffith6718]

I think where League is relatively newer than most of the sports I referenced .. I think it's harder for players to accept a coach who doesn't play at their level. I mean .. just listening to Dom, Dgon, and LS talk .. it sounds like they'd never consider the input of someone who couldn't themselves play with them. I am very positive that that mentality is prevalent in all leagues. They quoted Nuguri on it. It just seems closed minded and egotistical to think it's not possible for someone to be able to coach but not play at your pro level. It's so hard for me to get around the fact that it feels gate-keepy (I know that's not a word) to inextricably link coaching ability and playing ability. I think they make a strong case based on evidence that there are way too many current coaches who really don't know jack about the game and shouldn't be coaching. I think that that truth feeds into their belief and it's hard to argue against because there aren't good counter examples within League of Legends that I know of. Also .. don't get me wrong. Position coaches should be a thing on teams, imo. Just like in many other sports. And if they're a position coach, they better be able to demonstrate and keep up. I agree there.

[@WhopperCheeseDota]

Tbh most sports are just easy to learn and play strategically, irl coaching is more about having an experienced leader to give a more mature 3rd person perspective. Playing sports is all about physical ability and mechanical skills which are largly just genetic and mindless practice. Games like league are WAY more complex due to having so many significantly different variables (every champ and role is different). It's probably more akin to trying to coach 5+ different sports at once in a single game

[@Ratedhbk148]

Kind of like how deilor was a great coach for fnatic despite not even playing the game

[@christineboari131]

The difference is you can get to at least diamond/master level through strategy alone in League, and if a coach doesn't have the strategic mindset to get there, they probably don't have much to say to their players. It's not like conventional sports where you need athletic ability to succeed to a decent level.

[@nach0turtle21]

I think it's because LoL is far more like Chess than it is traditional sports. In Chess if you're coaching a bunch of 2000 rated players and you're 1800 rated you can understand why they choose to make the moves they do and provide an objective analysis of their decisions and tailor your practice/drill regime to address these pitfalls. If you're 1300 rated you can't provide anything other than simplistic feedback (like highlighting blatant errors) and thus limit the potential for improvement of your team. Other things like player management, administrative duties (organizing scrims, training timetables etc) and assessing the competition in broad strokes is important, however the inability to identify issues in laning, drafting and itemization limit a coaches effectiveness. I think if you got some high elo players and put them through a coaching program to work on communication skills and gave them a few books on game theory they would provide far more insightful analysis and overall 'usefullness' to the team than the overwhelming majority of coaching staff.

[@lektornese]

on the topic of KEG you can see SKT's sub adc Gumayusi played on KEG Seoul and got picked up for his Kespa Cup performance

[@V2ULTRAKill]

But he never leaves the bench because teddys just too good at his job

[@neanderhall3191]

I agree with last on essence reaver Ashe feels really good on 3 items though I’m not a pro so can’t say for sure

[@catinashoe]

Warmogs on Sej 2nd item is 100% of the way to go. Your plus 120 resistance with conditioning and passive for 3 seconds. Typically you hit 3k hp just on warmogs and cinderhulk after lvl 12 then rush locket. Locket provides 1500+ shielding at that build. But ya don't build warmogs on anyone else. They don't have the resistances to back it.

[@mimism56]

39:00 Do they really need a development year? Like around the world rookies just come in and play decently from the start. I still remember Humanoid coming in the first game in lec with Splyce and carrying hard on Aaotrox. The fault lies on the academy system or on the management of the teams that makes hard for rookies to become something positive in Lcs. Well at least Johsun and Tactical this year showed promise for this year.

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

Yea I agree. In other major region we see the rookies have some promise and potential so we don't mind their faults since they need more practice to reduce their flaws. In NA it's like where is that same potential.

[@gheare3]

I agree that it's important to know what rank these coaches are. You can't just have game knowledge, you need to be able to at least show your players what you want them to do and to be able to accomplish that you need to be skilled enough at a high enough level. Just like how high end sports teams are led by someone who was a high end player of the sport, League needs coaches who are/were high end players.

[@DoAN1GHTMARE]

I disagree. There are plenty examples of coaches in traditional sports not being top level players prior to coaching. Bill Belichick and Gregg Popovich are a couple to come to mind and even in League kkoma won multiple world championships with SKT despite being gold himself. The most important thing for a coach is knowledge of a game, whether its league or football etc, rather than their ability to play it themselves. High rank can definitely be indicative of that, but is not always the case. Also solo queue is different from pro play. I'd take someone like kkoma over say Dom as a coach any day.

[@gheare3]

@@DoAN1GHTMARE Kkoma also comes from a high end Starcraft background so while he might not be the best LoL player, he's super high caliber similar to that of the head coach for Afreeca. I get what you're saying and I do think that sometimes you can be a great coach without having to specifically be a high end diamond+ player, but I (personally) believe that high end players could better at coaching since they understand the higher end points of the game.

[@DoAN1GHTMARE]

@@gheare3 I definitely agree that they could be coaches. Hai is someone I think could very easily make that transition and succeed. I just don't think being good is necessarily a prerequisite to being a successful coach. There's also management skills that go into it among other things. I don't necessarily know the rules riot has for coaching but I'd almost like to see teams adopt the traditional sports approach and have multiple coaches with specialized roles, like how football has offense/defensive coordinators. So someone who has a very good read on the meta and spends a lot of time scouting other teams in charge of drafts. Another in charge of player development etc.

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

@@gheare3 The problem is most of the people who would fall into these credentials are young adults who have the maturity of a teenager. If you thought loco interaction with TL would be the lowest bar I would love to see some awkward young adult try to facilitate conflict. I'm sure most of these people closest interaction with group work was back in high school.

[@dox_xus]

It's so crazy how much better Facecheck is with LS instead of Loco. Very happy with this change!

[@tristanvargas6825]

hey dom any chance you'll upload your podcasts in spotify in the future? thanks

[@scottgill2643]

Lillia seems more like a scaling pick than an early power pick, better suited to complement supportive solo laners. It's similar to how I view Kindred and Kayn. Such a philosophy lies in direct contrast to what Jungle currently is: a role that desires to exert their agency on the map and call all the early shots.

[@Harlhuman78]

48:50. I have a friend who's a hardstuck silver player who INSISTS that he's really smart about the game and just lacking the mechanics, so he always tries to shotcall when he's playing with me and my diamond friends...

[@lmSnarkk]

Tell him he’s delusional 🤦‍♀️

[@saucyseek4137]

Your buddy sounds like the living embodiment of the Dunning Kruger effect.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

How often does he lose to Boris

[@justking6975]

Unless he's being a dickhead about it, I see it as okay for someone trying to shotcall.

[@hehexd3692]

Bjergsen looking at DL reminds me of the way lebron would look at kyrie

[@trerutherford5387]

Or the look @ JR

[@robertmeyer6837]

@LS certain forms as asthma can be made worse by taking NSAIDs (i.e. ibuprofen and aspirin)

[@thesilvanalyst6880]

The tripple black cleaver thing happend in 2 games by DIG actually

[@RoboShaoran]

Can we get another Dom+LS LCS/LEC/LCK costream? I would love to see LS featured again, he’s smart and entertaining

[@grimzz1499]

on the yone topic, i think riot took note of the tekken evo japan and leeroy story , and is trying to avoid the same situation lmao

[@oscarpilarczyk5766]

Man i love this straight up way of saying things of dom and ls , legit the way they try to fix the profesional side of league by giving the things that are wrongly done the eu treatment , breaking it down and giving you answers to dilemas that might appear is just 💯 i see more dedication from this 2 than from many pro teams as a matter of publicly anounced ideas. Love for Dgon also😎🤙

[@TheMineA7]

Regarding 59:00 Why not work as a consultant? Teams hire you and give you info about their scrims, and team issues. Then you have a 1-2 hour session with the team and guide them with their issues. Assuming you guys are willing to sacrifice a bit of streaming and free time. Tho LS probably has 0 free time so doesn't make sense for him.

[@Cptgreenbeetle]

yoi someone tell ls ibuprofen is BAD for covid, he should take PARACETAMOL

[@marisgmarisg]

GG literally banned JUST BJERGSEN champs and coach gives him sett. wtf was that draft.

[@5eur]

nabagi ne

[@bravepotatoe7513]

I'd argue that irelia is more of a BB ban but I get your point in game one they banned it after tsm picked azir so

[@marisgmarisg]

@@bravepotatoe7513 I see. Didn't see ban pick part. Anyhow it's good bans from gg. Kind of make sence they focus best midlander.

[@xJinRaGna]

To be fair, they put Bjerg on a hyper carry like Azir and they were still getting walloped.

[@RoboShaoran]

To clear things up...because a lot of people seem(ed) to misunderstand, that look on Bjergsen was not as full of disappointment as everyone thinks. Bjergsen was looking at Doublelift’s screen because DL (Ashe) was in “Death Realm” after bring ulted by Mordekaiser. The shot on Bjergsen’s face is taken out of context and it spread like wildfire in mere moments 😂 hilarious though.

[@zhangjeffery1326]

Can someone tell me how they make this production? It’s actually cool

[@majseketin2280]

Can someone link the tweet of ssumday face when ryoma missed the minions please !

[@paninitv3750]

I can't look at anything but dgons' hair bouncing when he nods his head

[@gyro4535]

had a hecarim in my plat 4 game and he was unironically a coach to a masters team and he went like 1 5 and got hard out jungled and just flamed the entire game

[@toadftw23]

IMO Lillia is a good champ, but it's a HARD snowball one way or the other in pretty much any game. If you run into someone and you're behind levels and/or 1/4 of a core item, you're going to get run down and feel really sad. But if you have item advantage or have an early Runic Echoes you're just running people down with your E/R at max cracked out move speed and have pressure over half the map by clearing camps insanely fast too (invading with no fear etc)

[@bigtik5233]

I think the disconnect in coaching is that these orgs came from other sports before they got into esports. In every other major sport there’s plenty of examples of great coaches who couldn’t play the game at a high level. Coaches also have a higher understanding than their players in other sports as well. In league the top minds are usually the best players. Most coaches simply won’t be at top players levels of game knowledge

[@jacobgreaney2809]

the situation of coaching is only true for league of legends. In Dota for example, an extremely similar game, a coach stood in for a player at the world championships and they ended up winning. the coaches in dota are just as good and knowledgeable as the players. There isnt any excuse for league. An esport like CSGO is more in line with conventional competitive sports as you have the players that have all the skill in a game with very simple rules where all you need to do is understand 10 or so fundamentals and work them in creative ways. That is why you would have coaches that dont need to mechanically be at the top of the game. League and dota is so complex and has so many mechanics (think of heroes, items and wave manipulation as 3 easy examples) with a constantly changing meta that it is impossible to teach the highest level without being at the highest level to understand the intricacies and even the baseline details necessary.

[@haplozyorhist8778]

Na needs to adopt the vnea lesgue system to allow people to become noticed and to also give competitive play for all levels of play

[@beetlejuice2076]

Since LS joined I think Facecheck has surpassed Crackdown to become my favourite podcast out there, love the show!

[@anthonypalumbo1057]

They talk about Lilia being out in competitive but not Yone, but let's be real. Lilia was always going to be a lot easier to balance than Yone.

[@anthonypalumbo1057]

@Matt Obra so the point is that they are probably not comfortable having a champion that they won't know if it is balanced or not BECAUSE it's hard to master and if it's broken they won't know until it is too late because people won't have the hang of it until later

[@kartikdec]

ye feels like it will be like season 3 zed,

[@louisrapp2499]

dude dgon is really so fking patient with those two, the "not getting out of plat" thing was rough

[@Shm00ly]

Louis Rapp someone has to be the adult in the room with these man children. This episode, yet again, was LS and Dom flexing at one another. Bit embarrassing.

[@vigilanterorschach2600]

For me this episode kick off really strong, enjoyed it way more than the previous episodes, just a feeling. I don't know why, though.

[@AfterLifeLegend]

Whats is that cut at 1:02:53 ?

[@joeshang3574]

Damn this was fast

[@Castro7870]

Could this be uploaded to podcast sources like Podcast republic on Android

[@kurcio]

does this have a spotify link?

[@bideomanlol]

I have the same inhaler. Wow hypebeast

[@gouthamakumar6591]

That moment when Tyler effin 1 is doing more to develop the talent of NA than Riot.

[@reecebordelon3504]

Dig and 100T would have been the first game of the gauntlet if NA still used the gauntlet system

[@aanon4019]

damn that woulda been hype

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

False 100T would have 10 points based on their spring playoff performance and 0 points for summer as they do not qualify for playoffs under the old system. Gauntlet is the top 3-6th placed teams in the LCS remaining. Assuming C9/TL are the likely targets to secure worlds then the following teams would have more: Flyquest (70 points spring + 20mininum points in summer) Evil genius (40 points spring + 20minimum points in summer) TSM (40 points spring + 20minimum points in summer) GG (10 points spring + 20minimum points in summer) 100T do not make gauntlet in the previous year format. DIG didn't make spring playoffs with 6 teams and sure as hell don't make summer playoffs with 6 teams. DIG would have 0 points. Nice lie though.

[@pavelr.8042]

Doublelift should have his own segment on Boris regarding GG series.

[@newclarity4228]

The Twitter link in the description needs to be updated

[@wiryx1]

LS casually flipping his MTG deck

[@sijiea]

Time to change the name of the series to Lung Check

[@salimcumar7112]

i think there is something wrong with dgon he seems like life is going south for him real quick but I don't know maybe I'm just delusional

[@mariusweber4990]

Facecheck hype!

[@NiraSader]

Bjerg goes “bruh”

[@jonathanreece4151]

The saddest thing about the 100T Ryoma situation is that, had he been taken into 100 Academy, and given time to develop in that lower stress, lower profile situation, he would have at least had a chance to develop. Now, even if sent down, I'm not sure he will be able to grow properly. Unfortunate. One can't help but wonder what would have been had Pobelter been brought in for the midlane.

[@noelbate505]

I think 100T didn't do it bcuz there's soligo there, i don't think they want to drop soligo as they think he has potential

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

For sure it would help with his development but the reality is recruiting a player who has played 5 years of competitive LoL into academy would be idiotic. Pob wouldn't change the results. Not sure why NA is obsessed with mediocre mids that have peaked awhile ago and keeping him just because he's a fan favorite.

[@JaxlamKing]

I imagine someone on the balance team just nerfs champs that they lose against in game

[@mifphilip]

i believe i have the knowledge to play high plat - low diamond but i have arthritis in my hands. and don't have the best mechanical skills! i very much enjoy watching and learning about league but i can't climb out of silver. and i don't play that much!

[@crazyxgamer]

I think Lillia is pretty good in top if she gets a melee matchup she seems pretty hard to play in jungle tho cuz all she's good at is farming and getting level 6 on her isn't even that big of a spike compared to champs like Shyvanna, Nocturne, Fiddle, Eve and Karthus I can see her being ok in jungle if you're allowed to farm and you're really good with the E + R combo or your lanes have setup to allow you to hit the W sweet spot but otherwise it seems pretty meh but holy shit she is super fun when you get the max level Q I'm happy that Riot was able to design such a simple yet fun champion

[@user-hl2bg2tw9n]

Pobelter is clearly very resistant to the mald by being in CLG LUL

[@bish5196]

Yone q needs a longer cool down besides that I think he's kinda balanced

[@johnsaba5558]

I had asthma too when I was a kid lol

[@Saynt1337]

I still believe 100T has a solid foundation going into next year with that top and bottom... guess 1 or 2 adjustments and it is a good team

[@detoxive8903]

Change Ryoma and possibly cody if they can find a better adc

[@highrise3924]

Just let Ssumday go back to Korea. He's too good to be stuck in such a joke of a team.

[@StoneDeceiver]

*puffs on my inhaler* me too xd

[@metalpie20]

IWD youtube fans see Bjerg look at DL in disappointment and run the joke into the ground

[@ZenInfinitettv]

I'm a plat 4 adc that just broke out of gold finally (having nabbed 13 penta kills while running throug). I've played something like 1000+ games of solo queue during the last 3 months, and I spent them playing to get my fundamentals down and learn how to win. And the level of play I see daily on the professional stage, and in ranked solo queue, is pathetic. People inting, my jungler selling his items, people telling others to get covid. Like its crazy cause I'll tell people that the level of pro play right now in NA is fucking abysmal, and they'll disagree with me so this video was such an amazing thing to see. I just want to see the best play possible in league

[@reeve574]

LS contracted the "NA 4fun" disease

[@jacoballey21]

As an LCS fan, i recognize our region is not good (for various reasons), but I STRONGLY oppose any change to the import rule. If we're going to compete at worlds, we need to build and develop our own talent, otherwise it won't feel like an NA win.

[@ZekkenWasTaken7]

The only reason people feel like Lillia is broken is the fact that she is really annoying to face

[@Shylestyles]

nice discussion over we can all go home this guy has cracked it lillia is broken because she's annoying that is a top tier take right there 10/10 analysis could not have said it better myself

[@flamekite1679]

I think she's a good situational pick if you know you will be able to do prolonged fights

[@ZekkenWasTaken7]

@@Shylestyles I didnt say she is broken at all, i just said people have the feeling she is way stronger than she actually is just because she is annoying

[@Shylestyles]

@@ZekkenWasTaken7 yeah and I was making fun of your take because its ridiculous to claim that 'people' (all players) 'believe' she is broken because she is annoying to play against Ignorant sweeping statement that rules out all other possible reasons Have a nice day

[@ZekkenWasTaken7]

@@Shylestyles but how stupid and delusional are you xD i dont know why you are malding about an opinion mate, relax, breathe, move on, no one attacked you

[@dawnevergarden3275]

I am convinced Ryoma just isnt human after all this time I have been like well I have seen some people have a few bad games there is no way it's like he plays like this all the time, but watching him for this long just still running it down and I can't anymore, does anyone actually know what his rank is in Ranked? I have seen Silvers more consistent and I have to know if he is real.

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

He's a troll. Like, literally a fable creature whose sole purpose is dragging 100T into the dirt.

[@Jester-15]

@@aR0ttenBANANA looool

[@alexguadalupe9682]

Also does anyone notice Sneaky is still around and wants to come back to LCS and I think 100T Sneaky would be better and change the roster to be Ssumday, Kenvi, Palafox, Sneaky, Poome. Yeah there's a lot of rookies but I think it'll be really good to try imo

[@mikewallace9292]

Dam bro talk about some NA production this episode

[@erickrothwell8182]

LS I have asthma and it’s acting up , also LS yeah I’m on a tone of NSAIDs

[@miguelchang5348]

You didn't give Ryoma his gold star

[@lmSnarkk]

I’m totally convinced Dom didn’t watch the TSM vs DIG series 🤦‍♀️

[@makemhyd]

???????????????????????????????????????? u thought it was good??????????

[@Dr.Ham_longsword]

is b1 renekton blue side first pick?

[@JoshuaPark505]

we need some Nyjacky coach :P

[@fazed343]

Waiting for the Dom LPL show now Plz

[@vincentmalambo4946]

They’re talking about champion nerfs and I’m just here still wondering why riot is nerfing Qiyana

[@Leaflar]

57% winrate with 13% pickrate in Master+. She's just absurdly broken.

[@ronweasley4096]

This show is to good to handle!

[@rockdalianninja1056]

Love this show

[@blackbeanburger3357]

i feel so bad for ssumday... hope he's paid well at least for suffering with deadweight teammates

[@Tanish129]

Are these on Spotify?

[@vijaywestbroek7861]

No they can't seem to keep Spotify up 2 date.

[@abala626]

1:05:54 can someone please explain to me what all the "R1, R2, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5" means?

[@Chris-yp1fe]

Pick order. Red side 1st pick. Etc

[@KnotSavage]

please link picture of bjerg looking at DL

[@deluxe4749]

why is ls always shuffling cards?

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

You know it's fucked when Tyler1 has to take the responsibility of getting people exposure instead of Riot themselves.