Facecheck S02E29 - LS: "TL Beating G2 Is A Fluke"

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00:00 Intro
03:46 Discussing early Group Stage matches
06:04 Group A Discussion
12:14 Group B Discussion / Teams refusing to scrim Damwon
17:22 Group C Discussion / TSM Struggles
26:00 FNC/Gen.G/LGD tie in Group C
31:03 Group D Discussion / Lee Sin pick in TES vs UOL
34:55 FlyQuest vs DRX
43:09 FlyQuest's Draft vs DRX
47:00 NA Infrastructure / Improving LCS

[@CxerRy96]

Lmao Dgon's shirt joke was epic, massive respect for the prep for that

[@Darkrengi]

Agreed made me like him more

[@ornnenjoyer8211]

Made me dislike him more tbh

[@davros320]

it was pretty cringe but in a funny way

[@MindsWithoutBorders]

@@ornnenjoyer8211 Dgon is only a third wheel making the real dogs money which I am happy for, Dom deserves a pet at his knees and LS as well. They both work really hard and put in game knowledge into everything. Dgon is just there getting carried in my opinion. The guy is cringy and I doubt any Orgs like him due to the fact that he is rude and disrespectful which is why he hasn't gotten picked up by any Riot orgs.

[@user-jw1mq7zu8e]

@@MindsWithoutBorders u disrespectful asf man. lack of manners

[@str8harry]

There's people who refuse to wear masks to save others and then there's LS who wears his alone in his dark room to protect his Teddy bear from the rona

[@ovs4744]

He’s hiding his botched plastic surgery PepeLaugh

[@GrantMeDeath1207]

E VO LS also known as “Lousy Surgery”

[@anthonydominguez4744]

I’m pretty sure in Korea people have worn masks on the daily even before covid due to poor air quality

[@Vexiratus]

He wears it because it’s warm

[@JesperRoos]

@@Vexiratus is he playing in siberia or something?

[@elliottdevil]

DGon's shirt joke was great, and props to him for following all the games while he's been working with Venn on American timezone

[@Tylercantskate]

Dgon with more shirts than NA has poor worlds showings

[@sarkasmrocks]

bit of a stretch here dont u think?xD

[@team3am149]

Dgon with more shirts than the number of wins NA will have at Worlds

[@baldawen]

@@team3am149 you only need 1 shirt for that though

[@LoyalToTheMicrobes]

TSM treating world's like LCS. Was a pleasure to watch Bjergs Zilean get properly punished.

[@AlejandroGonzalez-ft4si]

Yea like I could even see him whipping it out against someone else but against bdd specifically who is one of the only other people who plays zilean, obviously bdd is gonna know how to clap your cheeks in lane

[@LoyalToTheMicrobes]

@@AlejandroGonzalez-ft4si he could throw it anyone not NA and get stomped. It only works in NA cause of how bad NA is.

[@yazzzlet3549]

i didn't want tsm to lose but it just felt right that it had to happen eventually

[@anthonydominguez4744]

Yuriy Tchaikovsky eventually ? Lmao kid they havent won a single game at worlds

[@clqliveson]

@@anthonydominguez4744 lmfao

[@soggychip6302]

Yo we need more cranky Dgon this is hilarious

[@yourinthebushes63]

I can't lie, Dgons twitch chat voice is too good 😂

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

On another topic, Dgon mimicking Twitch char sounds like a side character straight out of South Park.

[@gerjondejong9237]

Let's go, content from Dominico, Boris & our boy Dgon

[@megalul4141]

Make no mistake that is no boris, that is boris’s nemesis

[@gerjondejong9237]

@@megalul4141 True

[@jasonadkins6926]

Holy shit Dgon has been popping off with the jokes lately

[@TheGarouKami]

Dgon had me absolutely rolling with his jerseys/shirts LMAO

[@JADEN25235]

Yo, Dgon needs to get his volume leveled out with the others. Constantly turning my volume up and down depending on who’s talking lol

[@Heliojr1]

Seriously!!!

[@dhlehrenlos]

Literally replaceable smh

[@Addi.B.B.]

The TSM stomp was expected but how depressing it would be was not. That shit is sad man.

[@moisesmarquez7564]

I legit stopped watching worlds cuz I just got depressed man. TL at least showing some life.

[@SuperAllelujah]

I'm just waiting to see if Tsm goes 0-6 so it would be really funny.

[@Addi.B.B.]

@@SuperAllelujah You see, I thought that same thing but seeing BB's sad face and just another year of failure out of Bjerg and DL in their old (esports) age, it just kind of feels like one big fat SAD disappointment. You watch Bjerg 2014 world vods and you think "wow, this guy is going to be the greatest " then years later just seeing him get fuxked is upsetting lmaoo.

[@SuperAllelujah]

@@Addi.B.B. I told people all the time if BB can't even beat a player like Impact then what hope does Tsm have.

[@davidornelas3326]

@@moisesmarquez7564 if your reason for watching worlds is to watch NA succeed you are wasting your time. As an American I watch worlds to see the top teams and players showcase their talent. I go in knowing NA is going to leave home early. So just watch for the raw talent of EU and Asia and you'll be fine.

[@MarcelloVT]

Bless y’all for the content!

[@asakohn3767]

Thank you all for continuing to provide us with tons of content. I understand that it's hard to do all of this with worlds going on and stuff, and wanted to thank you all for working so hard.

[@TheGarouKami]

ooo what a nice little surprise, Good looks Dominica :)

[@3Hotdawg3]

If you didn't look in the description: 00:00 Intro 03:46 Team Liquid finally gets a win in Group A 06:04 Group A Discussion 12:14 Group B Discussion / Teams refusing to scrim Damwon 17:22 Group C Discussion / TSM Struggles 26:00 FNC/Gen.G/LGD tie in Group C 31:03 Group D Discussion / Lee Sin pick in TES vs UOL 34:55 FlyQuest vs DRX 43:09 FlyQuest's Draft vs DRX 47:00 NA Infrastructure / Improving LCS

[@joeshang3574]

Hotdawg333 damn this is how ez to farm likes nowadays

[@marshallclifton1329]

LS looking like Akali up in here

[@plutone220696]

Last episode: LS thinks TSM is going to go 0-6 in groups. This episode: TSM is going 0-6 in groups

[@Ethan-mw1qx]

I could be wrong but aren’t the sponsors old in the description?!

[@ThePikey94]

Couldn't ignar play something like gragas support? Would be good into kindred right?

[@Zwijger]

Imagine Rogue with Alphari, just watching their games you know they could do so much more if you had a top laner that drafted exactly like Finn, but just, didn't lose lane.

[@alexandrubodnar5914]

I believe Rogue with Wonder would be top 4 not joking . Larsen is there with Caps in my opinion . Hans and Vander are doing better then Perks and Mikyx . And Inspire is just better in this meta . 2019 G2 would shit on this Rouge even with a way much better toplaner but this year is not the year of G2 and I am a total G2 fan no question I love them since 2018 and Wonder is my favourite player from all pros .

[@alexandrubodnar5914]

That being said even being top 4 with Wonder they will still not exit this group . Since most likely top 3 are Jdg Dwm and Top so is just not possible for Rouge to exit this group .

[@alexandrubodnar5914]

@Stasss In my opinion the way G2 plays right now they would have lost to Dwn and Jdg to . Rouge did took G2 to 5 games and Wonder was smurfing on Finn . So what if Wonder was on Rouge . I am a G2 fan bro just and ideea

[@klo4880]

The Honest Guy Who is Wonder? Do you mean Wunder?

[@alexandrubodnar5914]

@@klo4880 WonderBoy Aka Wunder yeh

[@del46_60]

Anyone got a link for that reddit thread?

[@Written...]

sometimes you stay awake all night, just to watch doublelift lose flash at 2 minutes, then die at 3 minutes, just to go to bed sad and angry.

[@iXSIKOBOIXi]

Dgon with the heat today damn

[@ericwelch4386]

as a TSM fan, I really love face check. Really love watching these types of shows where everybody is just stating their opinions without bashing others like thorin does at times, love their honesty.

[@ROSPoetry1]

What LS is saying about TSM’s draft is basically what every person who has left TSM for another team has said. Mainly Europeans. They leave and say that TSM has such a outdated viewpoint on the game and how to play. It may work locally because the region sucks but internationally that doesn’t fly. This isn’t season 3/4 anymore.

[@6087anthony]

Tsm ran 3/5 of this roster in season 7.. did people really think it would be different.. they gave up DL and bio because of their poor worlds performance.. DL is known to choke in worlds no matter what team he’s on.. NA needs to find a way to develop talent and not overpay for people to come and retire here.. but the culture in NA is horrible, flyquest refusing to scrim C9 to not reveal their tactics, pro’s refusing to scrim against academy for job security..

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

Agreed. Its just hopeless for them

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

The sad thing is NA fans enable this stuff. Did everyone forget about "LOL C9 loss spring split doesn't matter" and now NA teams are getting smashed in and they are puzzled by their performance? I am surprised how they didn't think they would get slaughtered when most of the top teams use spring split as a vacation.

[@davormiho]

14:02 Holy shit. That's such a mediocre mentality

[@johnnycamine]

Love me some DGon, the guy actually knows how to host a talk show, bang up job m8

[@magnust3779]

Man Dgon is just such an awesome dude

[@hyena215]

Here we go

[@ayh4968]

Rengar loves your content!

[@mark5338]

It was a disgusting draft gap. You can't possibly think lethality jayce mid with the only AP being JANKOS nidalee would win u a game at worlds. I know it's NA but cmon lol.

[@notmeshoothim]

Caps was impostor. He isn’t from EU with that NA Jayce he was playing.

[@l0lzor123]

@@garrett4303 false, jayce top is lit.

[@beiggo21]

@@garrett4303 Wunder has proven multiple times to be better jayce top than most korean pro top laners.

[@beiggo21]

@@garrett4303 Nothing to see. It's a fact that is ALREADY confirmed.

[@bigtik5233]

Kokkelikirva nah mate I’m pretty sure he’s not even as good as BB on Jayce

[@gwnchilenzo]

Unleashed Dgon best Dgon

[@mikewallace9292]

Holy shit it actually happened

[@liquetwitch6848]

Deftly was a solid ad back in ggs... Still sad they just subbed him and olleh out

[@GPia16]

FBI is miles better

[@liquetwitch6848]

@@GPia16 first split he was having a rough patch... they were a playoff contender and as soon as they removed their bot lane the team crumled, lost almost every game left and lost the tiebreaker

[@tosan7410]

Hecarim loves your content!

[@lbsdapoon]

Wearing a mask by yourself in front of a computer screen. OP LS

[@DeathWishGaming]

He did that before corona was a thing.

[@cremlindor6607]

i think he has a roomate, so it actually makes sense to not spread any air molecules around while he is laughing and screaming during facecheck

[@SuperLio333]

@@cremlindor6607 No it doesn't man. He lives with him unless he wears a mask permanently inside it is pointless. Use your brain lmao

[@austinbecraft1222]

heimdall zumwalt he lives with multiple people in his household, that’s why he wears the mask.

[@joshnest3200]

He likes the warm air hitting his face from the mask or something. It’s therapeutic for him

[@jasonchen4807]

People really think TL boutta go 3-0 or 2-1 next week lmaoooo

[@WithRhetoric]

Nah, it was just nice to see G2 get a beatdown from the region with "no chance to win"

[@Zwijger]

@@WithRhetoric I mean, it would've been more fun if it was against a team people actually considered unbeatable. Imagine doing that to Damwon and people would've had no choice but to give the team that handed them a loss some respect. Because it's G2 people will always just consider it the classic G2 group stage game they lose against a worse team.

[@takumifujiwara300]

TL beating IG = Fluke TL beating G2 = Fluke RIP NA

[@SuperAllelujah]

@@takumifujiwara300 Tl beating Damwon also a fluke last year.

[@WithRhetoric]

@Stasss did I say they were getting out? Maybe take some time and read buddy

[@YaBoiWilly]

what was wrong with Dgons mic :(

[@LucasVergara2]

Yeah Dgon!

[@whynotsplash]

Hey Dom, can Dgon have his voice louder in future episodes? I listen to this while on the bus and can't really hear Dgon's voice

[@RightfootWestHam]

Dgon great shirt! love it! Keep it up! Next stream wear a cap with the same team logo or a headband! Why not make a call to steve? maybe he will pay for the show! You wish you could say that you were paid by steve! SO do I!

[@SuperLio333]

algorithim comment for the perdect trio and the unreplacable D gon

[@NiyaCathrel]

The volume of Dgon's mic is much lower than that of the others. It'd be great if you guys could level that out more.

[@whalesjdjdjs7216]

Would love for atleast 1 NA team to make it out, but it looks like its gonna be hard :/

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

Why would you want any inferior teams in quarterfinals?

[@arashm8035]

15:00 teams refusing to scrim Damwon cause they get sht on to hard lool

[@andrewpeters156]

Wild card regions upsetting a main region team always in one game always happens at worlds.

[@JanAlleman1]

I love the dynamic between you guys! Keep it up. Loco was nice too, but sometimes he would be too unreasonable.

[@gillmahrmambane3032]

low key i preferred loco to LS but he is still good

[@xMooney_]

I love mad dgon holy shit lmao

[@natepeer9473]

Rogue alphari next year?

[@ZeNith5456]

Just waiting for broxah to whip out nidalie at matchpoint like bengi did for skt

[@BrendanGeormer]

I'd be interested if you had maybe a few league-prepared teams, or maybe each team got one, but have some teams of veterans as benchmark, and then make academy 1 vet max per team. I feel if you only had younger players, it would be hard to get a read on who is actually good vs if everyone else is just bad, so having known quantities could be good for that. Maybe do in-houses between your young and vet teams, and assuming your recycled and washed players are at a certain level that you know is below LCS but around academy, make them play the young guys and see what happens. I feel you'd get players who would want to do that as opposed to being in the academy system to either get money or compete to some degree, or maybe think they can make it back to LCS, if the option was taken away for sitting in Academy.

[@aks1994u]

Ok.. so you predicted tsm would go 0:6 ... Damn .. that was spot on.. holy

[@Rhaalis]

With exactly how many people LS lives since he needs to use a mask in front of the screen?

[@NickMK]

From what I've seen, LS for some reason is really self conscious about his teeth. Hiding his mouth while laughing, holding back smiles when casting, so maybe he just likes the excuse to have a mask?

[@dippythehippy]

@@NickMK he would wear a mask sometimes before Corona, he doesn't need an excuse

[@hamxz2]

@@dippythehippy That's very common in many Asian countries though? Many people wore masks before COVID

[@vonwaq]

@@hamxz2 mostly korea and japan for cosmetic reasons (hiding their face because theyre not wearing makeup or just because it looks cool), china for the air pollution in beijing

[@Daedalus33]

Pretty sure it’s just something he likes to do

[@lijl4637]

I like negative Dgon

[@EdGeLV]

Dgon is such a solid addition to this show

[@SuperAllelujah]

Lots of garbage in the comments section whining about LS wearing a mask.

[@Chocolateness2000]

Because the comments are full of Americans who don't think covid is a thing anymore probably

[@RaidsEpicly]

@@Chocolateness2000 Does someone else live in his room or something? I'm confused why he's wearing it while alone in his room

[@Chocolateness2000]

@@RaidsEpicly He has people in and out of his apartment quite a lot or at least used to and for some people it's a matter of wearing it to become used to it. It's kind of like glasses if you've ever had them. I think that was his reasoning on a stream once

[@emmag5879]

Isn't it obvious that the Jayce was clearly a counter pick to sett? And then sett was flexed to sup

[@TheHackersboss]

Which game did LS cast ?

[@mutotowamwema]

The last 3 games on Monday

[@clintfischer1057]

the first few of yesterdays game I think

[@FlameBlueNova]

Does LS not have a light in his room?

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

Light hurts his eyes.

[@blacktiger1517]

Will bjersen ever come on the show and talk about tsm? And why they are so consistently bad?

[@tomatofarmerlarry3331]

Because every one else is better and it's taken serious.

[@blacktiger1517]

@@tomatofarmerlarry3331 everyone kinda knows why they are bad it's just pure incompetence but what is causing this incompetence?i think only bjersen can explain the situation cause bjersen is the only one that has any respect among the community and is also the face of tsm. Doublelift is a nobody people just over hype him it's feels like.

[@tatamigalaxy3473]

Out of context but, can someone tell me why all the loco references? Did something happen with him/to him? Why is he not making content anymore?

[@PixelatedEpiphany]

Only thing I can recall is him just saying he was going to stop making league content. He didn't love league anymore or feel motivated.

[@tatamigalaxy3473]

@@PixelatedEpiphany Yeah I saw that too, but I noticed they were making like small references and jabs at loco so I wasnt sure if something happened as well. Thanks mate!

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

@@tatamigalaxy3473 Because Loco became a big meme during his time in the LoL scene, and used to be a cohost of this very podcast.

[@DeathWishGaming]

I don't see Dom on twitch rivals. If I did maybe it would ne watchable

[@Kuzcopia]

Isn't it amazing Parth is coaching TSM at this worlds when he's always been slotted in >against his preferenceone< exception (probably because the other teams boomed harder, or the stars on the team just went above and beyond). I put tsm last in their group because of that history going into this with a botlane that's worse than in 2016/2017, with a less flexible toplaner (even though he seems to carry better), a rookie jungler and a Bjergsen that has to be working with a heart so broken that it's legendary if it still beats with any vision of victory. I mean, good luck, anything's possible, etc, but it's weird that Parth is the only person in the world who can coach tsm(?)

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

Parth enables the way the players (bjergsen/DL) wants to play the game. The players don't buy into the system mean their performance will drop and then get their good friend owner reginald to swoop in and destabilize the current coaching system. A lot of the drafts you see are reflective of their scrim results and players wanting these picks. The real yikes is TSM dropped their bot lane because they got dumpster in worlds. They bring the same exact bot lane and now are doing the exact same thing except far worse performances. That's how shit NA is when that lineup can succeed in the LCS but repeat the same performance at worlds and they will be content.

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

The problem with TSM is the fucking owner/CEO and all the higher-ups, not the coach.

[@dinandschinkel6917]

why is LS wearing a mask inside?

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

That TSM game made me embarassed

[@oldboychano]

why is dgon wayy funnier on no sleep lmao

[@ranelbelanoyt7173]

Evil Dgon is good.

[@gordonfreemanlaw]

TSM fan here, on suicide watch ):

[@underscore8256]

I hate the NA prio on voli.. Especially over Ornn

[@PixelatedEpiphany]

They kept getting shit on by voli with what they precieved to be their strong picks.

[@Plamler]

Fuckin Loved that shirt joke \ :)

[@alienobserver7220]

I commented this somewhere else, about that "How to fix NA" thing. Guess what, NA shouldn't be good compared to others; the player-base is much smaller than in other major regions and soloq is terrible, not to mention many other core cultural issues. If anything NA's level is actually artificially boosted by imports because of the eternal bias towards NA, in terms of imports ruling, for example: TL have 4 imported players in the roster, that should't be allowed. What's the point of splitting in regions, if the talent on a roster doesn't come from that region. And fans still want Riot to implement more changes to help NA, while other regions are on their own? NA really thinks that World should orbit around them? That they are entitled to anything more than they've got? I only feel sorry for some NA fans, they should have stopped supporting their teams and LCS long time ago, but it's on them really. NA is bad, and they deserve to be bad with how much advantage they always had with money and Riot acting in their favor, while EU was getting shafted. Now is the time for Riot to actually turn away from NA and put their priority in supporting and advertasing the regions that deserve it more. The region in the west that should be most prioritized and finanacially supported is EU.

[@curtisgorner3072]

Honest question, who is Dgon, I know everyone else? Just curious they don't really do intro's every ep like Hotline League/the dive lol.

[@garigari8937]

I'm TL fan but not NA fan. For me, NA is okay region just not great. The players are great but I feel like they lack something . Idk what it is but every time I watch LCS, every team in NA have the same playstyle. Maybe some of them or not but no actual different. This makes them an easy opponent in Worlds since they lack creativity compared to other region. Just my opinion tho.

[@DeathWishGaming]

JGD barely got out of groups and they beat TSM? RIP.

[@gester159]

Nah LGD looking strong right now. They also beat fnatic

[@coolb126]

Ah darn. I thought Broxah did ok with invades and stuff. Glad they got the win still.

[@r9dog949]

Yeah G2 just had a really bad draft in my opinion, I would say they could potentially beat MCX(I hope they do because I put TL 3rd)

[@jairoabarca8969]

Oh god LS said it was a fluke and we all know everything that LS says the opposite happens TL are making it over G2 aren't they lmao

[@TheBlackface007]

only if TL pick renekton nida while LS is casting

[@Chancetpl]

Nah we need woman to say TL wont make it

[@TheBlackface007]

@@Chancetpl why not both?

[@Chancetpl]

@@TheBlackface007 because woman is the one who gets the opposite the happen. If she says TL wont make it then they will and then NA is only MOSTLY bad :')

[@LodgicalThoughts]

@40:00 broooo not the "ashe zyra" shit again ... zyra seems so good until you dont have flash, and you're versing pantheon/morgana support. Zyra/brand sup is good if your team really really needs the ap dmg.

[@East16]

god i love dgon. rip TL tho

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

In before TL beat G2 again and finish second. But for tho, I want to agree but we’ll only know for certain tomorrow so I reserve judgment until then.

[@sarkasmrocks]

if only NA would realise that academy, like dom said, should be used for new people to be developed and not the place where washed up/unwanted pros brawl to be the one-eyed king beneath the blind. dunno what gms think when they block the same spot for multiple seasons with a pro that never or almost never has a chance at starting again. this either complete ignorance to the system or nepotism once more.

[@janermaher]

What I'm hearing here is that the west is back where it was in 2017, trailing behind china and korea. We were on the verge of greatness. We were this close. It's making me depressed.

[@janermaher]

@Alex Briggs I meant eu. na peaked in 2016 and kept free falling since.

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

@Alex Briggs EU is currently worse, or at least less stable, than it was last year and the year before. Whilst EU might've taken a step forward or so, China/Korea have taken two or three.

[@Gibbysaurio]

TL dropped dom and beat g2 hmmmmm

[@NotADoctor330]

I don't think they gave enough credit to TL bot lane for punishing greedy picks on the G2 side

[@evergreencapsule466]

TSMatWorlds LeagueClientPredictions: "its free real estate"

[@toxygen6807]

Whatup

[@genaricTallGuy]

LS: LGD Spokesperson

[@germopotter3309]

Dgooonnn hahahahah

[@aslemartinsen5284]

TSM just keeps picking low damage comps and can't sustain damage through the fights, so they have to rely on getting a pick before a fight, but when they finally find a pick, they don't even push for an objective to get a 5v4. Put Bjergsen on a high damage mage instead of a burst assassin, put Doublelift on any autoattacker, put biofrost on a tank (Ali/Leo), Brokenblade on a fighter in top lane and Spica on a tank. BB is a good top laner who can go toe to toe with most players if he plays the right champs. Irelia, Jax etc are way better options than Shen. Spica is the "noob" on the team. Put him on a tank so he can be the meat shield for the carries, rather than putting him on a champ that has to snowball himself and his team. It's too much responsibility, and he's honestly not skilled enough. Bjergsen is so good with control mages, he will keep pumping out damage, and assassins are shit these days with so many items countering their burst. Doublelift will benefit from the others playing these types of champs too, as he will end up with 2 tanks and a fighter in front of him. Biofrost isn't good enough to time range engages. It's literally his biggest flaw. And he is way too vulnerable when he doesn't play a tank. That first Ezreal death could have been avoided if Bio played an aftershock tank. TSM needs new coaches and they really need to do something about the team mentality. You can't make Bjergsen the carry during this meta while putting him on an assassin.

[@tigerchuu2148]

It was really a fluke

[@team3d180]

New Cut the western shit on the new voy x yas x hash x etc etc story?

[@CxerRy96]

25:40 I can't believe no one mentioned that AWFUL trade of Ezreal flash and Shen ulti to kill Kramer that ended up with NOTHING except the kill...Kramer even laughed on the player cam as it happened knowing this was stupid and, wouldn't you know it, 2 minutes later flashless Dlift gets caught by Naut ult, can't escape and they lose an inhib off it. TSM is so bad, they didn't win NA, everyone else around them just collapsed.

[@midnightbunnie714]

Yeah i just dont know why tsm fans being tsm fans this is why im c9 im ok woth us losing and i know the problems we got deppressed but im happy we didnt go to world with a depress state i just hate tsm fans not noticing problems

[@AlluckyTV]

This is the same result every year for na so I hope this time teams really try something new next year. Team staff needs overhaul. Ditch the "analysts" and "coaches" that are tenured in without a shred of high elo gameplay experience. Or keep shitting the bed and embarrassing the region. Your call NA!

[@jamesrymes5676]

So why are you wearing a mask when you are alone in your room?

[@lukaszepesi]

I think G2 are trying to train Jankos because it's a jungle meta and if you don't have carry jungler you're not gonna win worlds. I'm sure they can beat TL and make top 4 just based on Caps being a genius but they want to win so they're trying to make that happen but it doesn't look promising. Jankos should have practised these champs when everything was going smoothly and he had time and not in between worlds games but now it's too late. If G2 had Selfmade, Canyon, Pyosik, Karsa, Sofm, Inspired or Kanavi they'd probably be going to the finals. But like this, i'd say semis is their cieling unles Jankos makes some massive improvements.

[@siciliandragon4675]

Not really buddy ... G2 is outclassed in pretty much every role ... Making jankos better doesn't do anything.

[@tomatofarmerlarry3331]

Jankos isn't bad on carry jg, it's just that why would you play around jg when you have caps who is strongest player on team.

[@lukaszepesi]

@@tomatofarmerlarry3331 ​ @mangustination RNG had UZI and played around him sometimes they got to finals an sometimes they got eliminated in quarters. Just because you have a good player doesn't mean it's enough. Nidalee is one of the most important picks at worlds so far and G2 knows if they can't adapt to this meta they won't make it as far as they could. They know they will make it out of groups but they want to optimize their chances in this tournament. "Jankos isn't bad on carry junglers" good joke.

[@iamcrazypeople6961]

LEC fans said LEC donot have korean imports, why are you talking about G2 has that players??????????

[@explorer678]

I'll say it again I'm so mad bjerg stayed with tsm when contract was up and got tied into them...

[@OGRadion]

He got paid mad cash, seems alright with that

[@danieldasilva4221]

One team plays poorly, one team plays well. We see this in all sports at a higher level. How is that a fluke...?

[@GGamerable]

It is like Jets beating Patriots. It's one Team overperforming while the other underperforms it is unlikley an thus it is not unreasonable to call it a fluke.