How to Stop the Double Leg Takedown!

A wrestling takedown is a technique used in the sport of wrestling to take an opponent to the ground and gain control of their body. It is typically used to score points or to gain an advantage in a match.
There are many different types of wrestling takedowns, each with its own specific set of techniques and principles. Some common wrestling takedowns include:
The double leg takedown: This involves driving forward and taking hold of both of the opponent's legs, then lifting and driving them to the ground.
The single leg takedown: This involves taking hold of one of the opponent's legs and using it to off-balance and take them to the ground.
The high crotch: This involves driving forward and taking hold of the opponent's waist or upper leg, then pulling them up and off-balance to take them to the ground.
The fireman's carry: This involves taking hold of the opponent's waist from behind and lifting them off the ground, then turning and driving them to the ground.
Overall, wrestling takedowns are an important part of the sport of wrestling, and are used to gain control, score points, and ultimately win matches. They require a combination of strength, technique, and strategy, and are an essential part of a wrestler's skill set.

[@bennymalone]

It's like UFC 1 never happened.

[@Rikk1825]

I love how you mma fan boys like to act like the takedown is better than an actual knife

[@bennymalone]

@@Rikk1825 bizarre argument, you are fucked against a knife if you are unarmed

[@Rikk1825]

@@bennymalone You sound smart actually. My bad.

[@critter505]

You want to learn how to stuff a takedown? Find an actual wrestler and do actual drills. All of this is theory, there are plenty of trained wrestlers that don't mind lending their time to help people practice.

[@IzzoWingChun]

critter505 Been Wrestling since 1988 and I still coach. Not sure if that counts ;)

[@critter505]

The Rogue Warriors - Wing Chun / Aikido / Guns / Fitness Couldn't tell by this.

[@ItsJUSTaPLANTguys]

+critter505 Wing Chun is purely theory, it's like the intelligent design of the martial arts community

[@nathanwatches]

+The Rogue Warriors - Wing Chun / Aikido / Guns / Fitness - That's the best answer to those who said WC is BS. Because why would a wrestler and still a coach , still choose WC among so many striking arts?

[@joeyservo]

+The Rogue Warriors - Wing Chun / Aikido / Guns / Fitness Pro-wrestling? Next video: Wing Chun vs. DDT

[@SocialSketch]

I just shit my pants to try to drive my opponent away.

[@jamesart9]

+Social Sketch Ah, long thought lost in time, but it seems the ancient art of Fecal Chun lives on still.

[@JeffynAmr1977]

+Social Sketch I like your method & it makes a single or double leg takedown even more disturbing to attempt...lol

[@martialartsfan7269]

My suggestion, enroll in a bjj, wrestling, judo, sambo, etc. gym. Grapplers will not be stopped with one technique. Grapplers use take downs as a jab. One take down, will set up another and another and another. A good grappler, or a good high school wrestler, will take you down if they chose to take you down. Just grapple for six months straight. Nothing else. And, you will be 100% better at stopping a take down.

[@Kinrag1]

Stan Smathers Judo tournaments negates wrestling takedowns by banning them. And Tate is not a wrestler if anything she has a bjj double leg.

[@1fitkbox]

if there were better ways to stop a double leg...wrestlers would use it...its the worlds oldest style...all these guys are doing is stealing a bit from mma and grappling and demonstrating it badly...nothing these guys do here would stop a decent double leg shoot off a man who can wrestle..the wrestler would walk thru them

[@retroghidora6767]

What are the chances you'll run into someone trained in grappling and what are the chances that person wants to beat you up? And like said in the video just because someone trained goes in for a takedown doesn't mean it's gonna happen. People assume things about hypothetical situations ( a potential street fight) that many of them have never even been in or practice for **cough***Gracies***cough

[@1fitkbox]

the difference between street fighting and pro martial arts fighting..ie K1, MMA,mauythai... etc...is that when fighting in the stret your not fighting highly skilled professional athletes who can hit on a level folk don't think is humanly possible and they can take his like that....so in the street against unskilled idiots...anything might work...a flying monkey fist might work on idiots, try it on a pro fighter and youl be koed quickly...so in a nutshell...train to beat good skilled fighters...and beating idiots will seem very easy...WC men train to beat idiots and other WC men

[@Evolfurnace]

Gold Coast Judo is a grappling art...

[@wingchunguy3016]

Great vid and good to hear everyone's different philosophies. I was quite surprised that no one mentioned the elbows. This has saved me on a few occasions when people have tried to take me down just a solid elbow to the spine or the back of the head as you sprawl and drop with them disorientates them enough that you can carry on hitting and smash them up and its job done.

[@thevillageyid]

When you did it did you find you were off balanced when you did the strike or were you rooted?

[@chrisnatterer4313]

bullshido still goings strong in 2016.

[@lionsden4563]

It's 2020. Still is.

[@johnlober2947]

@@lionsden45632021 going stronger

[@lionsden4563]

@@johnlober2947, Very sad.

[@TIKOMIX]

Even trained grapplers get taken down with singles and doubles. A "Wing Chun" defense will land you on your head if the grappler has any idea how to finish a single or double. At 10:05 the shot is at a guaranteed success with the double. You guys drill as if the wrestler is going to stop driving. The sprawl is the best technique period against a shot.

[@justthisonce41]

+Divine Placebo if you pay attention, it's "what if" they actually get thru. if someone goes for a take down, i'm going to back up and drop my fist on the back of their neck. there's is no "finishing"

[@justthisonce41]

+Divine Placebo 15:25 where the takedown guy tries to follow thru and the defender just backs up with his arm on the guy's neck.

[@TIKOMIX]

+justthisonce41 The point is that there is no effective "Wing Chun" takedown defense. The guys in these videos aren't following thru the way wrestlers do. The best takedown defense is a basic sprawl. There is not "wing chun" crossface or wing chun forearm to the neck area to create space. These are basic wrestling tactics.

[@maryjoe7601]

The Wing guy is using his forearm to stop a wrestler? Sorry wrestlers are notoriously tough they will endure the pain and get closer. You need to use your hands like a normal person just because you are doing martial arts it does not mean you are somehow a master grappler. If that worked wrestlers would be using forearms for throws and takedowns all the time

[@stango141]

I actually anti sprawling. I would just use my hands and throw my hip into the guy. Sprawling works but when you lose your base to sprawl on a fake you give up position. If you watch mma most guys don''t sprawl. They put their hip into the guys and pull up the arms.

[@hellojam100]

in most of the martial arts sessions, the instructor beats up the student. In these videos, the instructor allows himself to take the punishment to show the techniques

[@rsbrehm]

I had no idea how dangerous it really was for wrestler's to try a take down. (I'm not sure how much they realize this.) Let me explain: I was skeptical about Fak Sau's to the neck being as effective as they say in WT until my dad queued me in on some things. While he never studied WT, he practiced TKD for years. While practicing, someone took an accidental chop to the neck and collapsed instantly. They had to drag him over and prop the guy up against the wall because he lost motor control for several minutes. He wasn't "unconscious" but his limbs were unresponsive. Obviously you can not practice this in friendly training but its something to think about before someone tries to "take it to the ground" in a real-life self defense situation.

[@rokmcrokmc792]

TKD derives from ancient warfare. Reason why it is kick oriented (not really actually as it has a lot more to it than the Olympic TKD people are used to)is becase that is only free limbs you get while wielding spear and bow&arrows. For Japanese, jiujitsu and judo type of grappling and close qtr skills were useful because they used katana mainly. But Koreans used mainly spear or bow&arrows, and for these types of weapon it is all about creating distance and striking when someone gets too close. This actually is relevant in modern warfare as well because soldier's hands are occupied with rifle. South Korean soldiers during the vietnam war were all TKD blackbelt and there were cases where handful of ROKMC prisoners took out platoon of Viet Congs only with bayonet and bare hand combat. Anyone that knows how hard military walker is would understand last thing you want is to get kicked anywhere with it by someone that really knows how to kick. I'm not saying TKD is the most effective in the cage or ring, but it most certainly works where it was designed to work. Last thing you want to do in middle of a fire fight is to start a 1v1 grappling match or throw jabs around like a boxer. You wan't to strike fast, get to your weapon, if not get out.

[@FederalTracks]

well its clearly timing based so the most obvious thing is there will be some people good at this some people bad but i say to try in ur mined to draw takedowns in in and have ur leg positioning on muscle memory to sprawl a bit and take you hands and grab the back of his head/neck as he advances wile u are scooting back press his face to the ground ive actualy done it realtime once your arms are extended and hands are on his the back of his head and his head is down if u pull backwards pushing down hes going to the ground face first and must let go to keep from banging his face but great anticipation and natural moment and understanding of timing come in to play here!

[@jacobpowell3957]

Hey man, I heard you mentioned you trained another Martial art in the beginning of the video, I think you said "Xing Yi" ? sorry for the hastle, my headphones are rubbish :)

[@rsbrehm]

Jacob Powell I'm not sure you meant to reply to my post on this... but the guy at the beginning of the video said he trained Chin Na.

[@larrycancooke2]

WC since 1983...If it's serious, that chop or elbow to the base of the neck, medulla oblongata area, usually stops the take down and causes the person going for the take down problems. You don't want to do it to your sparring partner. It really shocks the system.....

[@Kenazzle]

Such great banter, high spirits and above all MUTUAL RESPECT in this video. Great stuff.

[@siddislikesgoogle]

Takedowns are a TMA practitioners nightmare, thanks for exploring the issue - i still won´t sleep well at night but its a start

[@Philipson999]

Simple. If you dont graple/BJJ/wrestle , you cant stop the takedown.

[@TheFantasticfox2010]

This was amazing! I rarely see people with multiple fighting systems get together and discuss take downs from a striker's perspective.

[@brucknerf]

Awesome stuff to see all these instructors get together with no ego and exchange ideas. Great stuff as well. Thank you guys for making the video.

[@koflan]

Explanations are all well and good, but why can't he just bring in a high level wrestler to do a little sparring? Or, more appropriately, an mma guy with strong wrestling. Everybody's got everything figured out, but so few will actually prove it.

[@DStyleBoxing]

Watching this again. I do want to say, learning how to shod a takedown is great. But I still believe it effects you're stand up, learning how to fight on ground gives you confidence on the stand up, period.

[@MrThedocholiday]

Excellent job guys, excellent advice! Now the hard part... The training.

[@zandiskoul]

Mr Izzo, please look into elbow strikes to the back/spine/head for real world applications. banned in MMA, but self preservation is a priority for self defense practitioners. Also look into kicks(upper shin)/knee through the collar bone(hands to shoulders, drive down to kick through bone). I believe you know of "gator rolls" into guillotine style chokes/working the carotid artery from your wrestling background. Great videos!!!

[@Deloowix]

You mean you will use these "lethal" techniques in real-life? MMA guys actually also try to aim those lethal spots wing chun talks about. But in a real fight, you won't be able to aim so accurately, when the opponent is dodging and blocking. Besides, these lethal strikes are usually so soft it won't cause much damage due to the limited swinging range of wing chun. There is also the concern of injuring your opponent in real life. If you don't kill him, he's probably going to be pretty pissed that you hit his groin or eyes and will pummel you more. BJJ is still much more effective and less dependent on luck.

[@Deloowix]

I have been in actual street fights when I was younger and I can tell you. All these weak martial artists can't do shit because I'll just ram them while protecting my head and neck. They can't really dodge when you do that and can't strike because they can't adjust themselves quickly to take you down. Once in such close quarters, your strikes don't hurt because you don't have the space to hit. You need about an arm's length for a punch to hurt. Punches when I am hugging you don't hurt because you can't put your body weight into it. Once on the ground, the larger guy will win unless the other guy has learnt bjj. So to be completely honest, muscle mass and bjj are the only useful techniques in a street fight. I agree in using surprise. But usually the guy you're facing is already prepared when you decide you need to defend yourself. What if the surprise fails? In addition, you don't need to learn martial arts to stab people in the eyes, throat or groin.

[@Deloowix]

***** If it's more than one on one, and they are carrying a knife, you won't be able to defend yourself like some bruce lee/jackie chan show. Trust me, if it's not a 1v1 situation, your martial arts won't help you either, because you'll be off balance once you execute a kick or punch. I've learnt taekwondo and i've tried it in a street fight. It doesn't work. Unless you get lucky and knock him out, people won't go down like how you see people do down after one punch in a jackie chan film. It is impossible to aim for the "vital spots" as well, because your opponent will dodge and by the time you find an opening, you have been taken out by someone behind you. You don't need martial arts to know how to throw a strong punch. You need muscles.

[@frenikfri]

Deliuwix Yap Why do all you bjj guys keep saying that you can't do anything vs. multiple opponents. I know of at least four videos here on youtube which all show a guy who clearly has boxing skills taking on more than one opponent and winning. It can be done it's VERY difficult but it can be done just not with bjj though.

[@Deloowix]

In real gang fights, you won't even have the space to gear up for a kick. If someone holds you from behind or comes at you from the side, you only have one window to punch. Once you miss just one punch, you need space to reset, which in a real gang fight they won't give you. And the punch must have enough force and on the right spot to put someone on the ground. Many times, it will cause a bruise, which will make the other person just angrier. Jackie Chan films often don't account for adrenaline and force of strike. In real life, you won't be knocked out. In fact, most of the time you won't feel a shit because of the adrenaline. The first fight I took when I was a teen, my face swelled up to the point I couldn't see from one eye after a fight. But during the fight, I didn't feel a shit and continued dishing out punches. Most punches won't knock people out in real life. If you think so, you have been watching too many wushu films.

[@pjkiger]

This is a really excellent video, with a ton of useful information. Thanks so much for organizing it and putting it up on KZbin.

[@williamshakespeare8934]

This is a nice video; I wish youtube had more of these: a conversation between practitioners, no one claiming to have an ultimate answer, just sharing techniques. Nice.

[@danpisula3531]

Just found your channel,great stuff.

[@matereymate]

Awesome video to start off the year. Really enjoyed all the perspectives too.

[@datajunkie3427]

It is so great to see all these different ways of handling Takedown. Awesome as always

[@RafeVKaos]

I definitely loved this video. I think that having so many folks from different backgrounds coming together and come to the same consensus is great. Really shows that in the end, the fundamentals/basics are key. Great video Dom.

[@meirnaiman3842]

Great video as always..Really learnt a lot from everyone's preferred method in avoiding a takedown. Thanks Mr. Izzo.

[@fx02zbn]

Really Enjoyed this Video, Great to see other peoples take on this attack. This channel is so good, I get so much from it. Thanks for uploading.

[@jstnfshr7891]

Great topic and video, nice job fellas!

[@T1Oracle]

Simple effective takedown defense in two steps: 1) Raise knee 2) Call 911

[@GameSecretClan]

Awesome video! Thanks

[@hughakston3518]

"Nothing stops a grapple guy like a knife"

[@michor10]

This was really interesting to watch. Keep it comin' guys!

[@johnlober2947]

Huh? Lol, I could not get past the first "Defense". Yada, yada...I do a partial sprawl then use their head and stand them up....Why the hell don't they teach me that. Jesus, you people are suckers.

[@FoieGras]

Mike sounds like he really knows what he's talking about. Oftentimes, w/ hard styles, (I come from a Hung Gar and Shotokan background), we think that a strong base is stable and strong when in reality, it's a dynamic stance that really makes a takedown impossible.

[@eaumand]

Great vid Dom! Thanks to the entire team!

[@williamlee2257]

did anybody else notice the strom outside that lightning is crazy

[@NinjaWarriorDude416]

I would like to see these guys go to a real MMA gym and get a one way ticket to reality. First year MMA students would smash these guys.

[@anonemus4851]

ninja warrior dude...please stand in front of izzo and say that.

[@Wildledroses]

@@anonemus4851 he's right though. Some of these techniques are baffling, homie said keep the flats of your feet on the ground. What??? Fucking crazy great way to get takedown. If you wrestled properly a few days you'd see how bizarre that is

[@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips]

izzo another great video. congrats

[@jfulkerson39]

This was a very good video and I enjoyed all of it. People really do need different perspectives on how to negate the takedown from a grappler or a wrestler. I enjoyed all of the perspectives and will train accordingly!! Thanks Izzo Tactical Combat and Indy Wimg Chun and everyone else that had an input in this video.

[@int0thew1nd]

I think in wc, a good place to start is the principles, that still apply to being taken down. Or even on the ground already. Are you still facing? Are both your tools ( hands) still in range? There is still a centerline, who owns and controls that line? Your hands still create a triangle in front of you, does it need to be reformed? Chum kiu shows us, that a curved line can beat a straight line. Jum sao, or double jum, while the waist and stance turn, as he comes in straigh can have a strike type effect. Slam that jum sao down, on the ear, neck, and turn your structure to make sure it still faces his. And then just get plain dirty. Your on the ground. Biu those eyes, grip and crush that throat. Take a thumb to just below the ear, behind the jaw and push it as far in as you can! Rip, tear, bite... ears, nose and skin will come off. Its a fight. Make sure you bring it. Thanks for the upload!

[@PS4Fever]

Awesome vid. Cheers.

[@TheKahliff]

Awesome vid. Food for thought.

[@DStyleBoxing]

Great video

[@Nowherenick26]

One of my favorites so far.

[@weasalman2028]

They sound like wen me and my friends with no background in martial arts but are heavy skilled in movies, we start to talk about wat ifss jahaha and we jus try to talk about it in slowmotiom hahahahaha

[@tylorferreira9274]

as a provincial champ in freestyle wrestling and someone who has trained in judo & bjj i feel that there is a lot of flaws in this hole "how to stop a takedown" idea . first of all the first technique shown in this video with the hole sprawl and cross-face will work.. to a point and it also depends on the experience level of the grappler, with someone like me or a experienced grappler i feel the takedown is a split second thing and is very hard to avoid even with great reflexes, now its a awesome way to stop someone with very little training. now after that the other techniques are all wrestling fundamentals widening of the base and putting pressure on the back/neck. Thats all great and works but how well and against someone who is a good wrestler /grappler is the real question the simple answer to how wing chun should deal with the takedown is to incorporate wrestling into the art. Awesome video btw enjoyed it !

[@johnmcook1]

+Tylor Ferreira Everyone wants to think they can stop a wrestler . I wrestled two classes heavier Undefeated . I broke from the norm to my own hybrid stance . I called it feeding the leg and i never lost using it . If the torso is perfectly straight ( not leaning forward when shooting the leg )a sprawl is impossible to achieve .

[@martinsolden77]

would this work on a guy just as trained in wresling as he is in wc.. and more importent not expecting it... thats the one big flaw in some schools..training for expected stuff.. (boxer, wc/MT, BJJ background)

[@binaylimbu]

The breathing technique of the camera man is very legit.

[@NYHoy]

How about a Chi Sao to the face and shoulder, so one you stop the tackle and two it attacks the face at the same time. Is that feasible?

[@KJGould]

At 12:00 do you call that Jun Sao? Anyway, that happens to be used in wrestling essentially as a single collar tie, one of the first lines of defence against a leg attack takedown (outside of matching their level)

[@rushyahr7767]

Yea, my technique, for the longest time, if someone tries to take me down, was to just wrap my legs around them and go with it... sure I could wrap them up from there and keep them from making any devastating blows, but I really couldn't counter attack from that position. Good advice with the leg sprawling.

[@turk_5814]

A wrestler is going to circle side to side and isn't going to come in and out. The distance between a wrestler and their opponent is constant. If the opponent steps back the wrestler will wait and not pursue. In a match this is called staying in the center, or controlling the mat. A good wrestler will have this fixed distance between themselves and their opponent similar to a boxer keeping in mind their opponents reach. The wrestler will only circle side to side looking for the leg they wish to step towards them. Imagine if your opponent just remained stationary while you circled them; eventually you would be behind them. Obviously they have to circle with you at an identical pace to not have this happen. The wrestler will then change directions and circle the opposite way, if the opponent does not react fast enough he will allow his opponent behind him because they are circling opposite ways. If the fixed distance a wrestler keeps in their own mind is crossed they shoot on the other person instantly. The only likely techniques that will stop a wrestler are wrestling moves, a crossface was demonstrated by the first guy and was the only advice he gave. BJJ are also likely to stop wrestling with submissions; especially ones like the guillotine for example. Judo is good too but almost all techniques in Judo are also in wrestling. Wrestlers train to fight other wrestlers and they always have since they started. A wrestlers first day ever wrestling was likely spent trying to fight off a wrestler for the first time. AKA they've been working on techniques to stop the techniques the learn and so on since they started. If you're looking to stop a wrestler, just know the moves you find may be usable, but a good wrestler has known that move and how to stop for over ten years. I'm a former west coast champion in Karate, and I've been wrestling for twelve years, two in college.

[@thos1618]

One of the reasons TMA guys think stopping Takedowns is because they have a non-grappler in jeans shooting from too far, with no setup, poor base, and awful posture. You have no idea how much explosiveness, drive and speed wrestlers bring to the table until you actually spar with them. t's very easy to land a knee to the face, elbow to the spine, fingers to the eyes in theory, but many wrestlers are prepared to mask their shot with an overhand punch and blast straight through you. If you're not interested in learning Wrestling you should at least invest some time in BJJ or Judo. Countering Takedowns with strikes is not a sound strategy.

[@Scorch1028]

It is extremely difficult for most strikers to stop most grapplers from taking them to the ground. If you think of the sheer physics of gravity, it takes more effort to stay upright on your feet than it does to go to the ground. The grappler who is shooting in and "pulling down" his opponent is using his own weight against the striker who is "resisting" gravity to remain upright. By going toward the Earth's center, the grappler has the advantage most of the time. For this reason it is critical for all fighters to know how to handle themselves on the ground, since sooner or later they will be "forced" to the ground.

[@mksm92]

Think some may be missing the point. I was taught everyone can learn something from everyone...even if it is what not to do. My favorite aspect of this video is that there are different martial artist sharing knowledge and not bashing each other but finding common ground. We did this in our school and it is amazing what ideas can come about when sharing knowledge and experiencing a different view. They may differ as to the technique used after or before someone shoots in but they are sharing knowledge and learning. They have different views and each art and individual will approach this and many other topics differently. If an open mind is kept, then we may be able to say...dam i didn't think of that; and guess what it may just work better for you. They all agree that it is the individual that makes the difference and to keep it Simple~Direct~Effective. Loved the Q&A. Thanks for the video.

[@selfpolicing]

Thanks for the information! Very good! Can you do a video on what to do if you are taken down to the ground? Would also be interesting to se what techniques you like to use to break free from different groundfighting positions like the guard, mount and sideposition? Thanks again!

[@AbdulPabugbog]

Very useful ... awesome guys

[@seanmeehan5955]

Great fun, great ideas.

[@mattchristie7680]

Nice to see martial artists training with each other, getting along and sharing instead of just being armchair critics! This is how it should be!

[@pranakhan]

You guys have a really nice situation there, being able to freely communicate with different styles & perspectives. Its like a kind of biodiversity, an environment suitable for growth.

[@luisbonnet3957]

Great Video! Fundamentals don't change.

[@wolflix]

the best and fairest video about martial art I have ever seen ...

[@ViolentBebop]

I like this discussion, it's open , there's variables and there's practical application. Never once did any of them say, "this is the definitive WAY" to solve this problem. They admit and acknowledge the issues of take downs. In physical matches, finding mechanical advantage is always a good play. And these guys actually running scenarios helps. Important takeaways I got is, don't go to the ground, and pressure tests..

[@siusiutoe6470]

sprawl + poke the eye

[@ITHMustDie]

Addicted to this channel..

[@chyodo1]

Excellent as Always , Good Advice.... YODO

[@universalredguard]

Good stuff

[@adrianhilltobar3690]

this martial art is cool but no body fights this slow in real life

[@TinyTitian]

I dont like the 2nd by the JKD guy my experience with driving people down after a failed take down results in them repositioning and me getting caught in a grappling match am I doing something wrong.

[@burgijator]

nice video :) thnx for sharing other peoples opinions on takedowns,btw i asked u about self training in wc and u said it is possible and i just want to say ty and im doing great il send u a video soon so u can tell me ur opinions on my training :) my buddy and me are doing better and better each day so ty for your videos and advice :) btw whats your opinion on sifu och cos i like his wc 2 :) all the best in new year :)

[@ericcreedon7126]

If they trained all kung fu instead of just wing chun, going to the ground wouldn't be something you try to avoid so much. In fact they might be the one to bring it to the ground. That's where ground fighting came from, Kung fu.

[@ericlaxson]

Thanks guys

[@johanhagdahl7701]

I`m a from europe, and a practice the greek-roman style of wrestling. All the attacks you guys were praticeing for were leg attacks. I would love to see how you would react with more torso attacks. I´m really interested in your wingchun, and i find it were usefull. IN MY OPINION: Guy nr 3 reactions, is best suited as a first reaction when attacked. Guy nr 2 reactions, is best when being cought with your leg(s), but not compleatly. Guy nr 1 reactions, is best suited when your leg is cought, but you havent been dropped yet. As guy nr 4 states, to throw punches as moving backwards, is oneway to defend your self and to put damage on the attacker. Guy nr 5 is right when saying to keep moving, sideway and back, couse when a wrestler/grappler got you, and you dont have any experiense about it, your done! Peaple who dosent have get choked before, is finding it pretty scary. Nice video! I enjoyed it, for sure. (Sorry for my english) Love from a Swedish wrestler

[@johanhagdahl7701]

I also do some of the American style, or free-style, as we call it, but not as much.

[@plusaeroservices3235]

This guys are defending take downs from each other, it will be totally different to do it against a wrestler, Judo or BJJ fighter. His defenses are really basic and anyone with 6 months of training will be able to take him down. As far as they keep fighting within them they are OK. One step out of their dojo and they are in trouble.

[@Outermainstream]

These are just basic defenses for the KZbin audience, but don't underestimate them. Especially since, Izzo HAS a wrestling background and applies it to his training. Source: His other videos.

[@plusaeroservices3235]

Circular thinking, one virtual source is the base for this virtual source. I don't underestimate them because they actually believe what they say. It worked between them, but one step into reality and they are fried. That is one of the few bad legacies from Bruce Lee. People don't realize that he was an actor making movies about Kung Fu that looks much better on the screen than in the actual life.

[@neutrino78x]

@@plusaeroservices3235 I'm not sure if you realize that Bruce Lee's style looks totally different when one uses it in real life. His movies were not a demonstration of how one would use Jeet Kune Do on the street. From Dan Innosanto, his best friend, "Bruce Lee realized that what is spectacular for a movie is not always practical on the street, and what's practical on the street is not always entertaining." kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqGphKqHr9mjqrMm30s If you actually go learn Jeet Kune Do, it's 50% wing chun (according to Dan Inosanto, same video). So no high kicks, mainly using hands. Also, Bruce Lee learned a lot of Judo from Gene LeBell and others. The encounter from the movie Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Gene says that's not really how it happened. If he'd tried to box Bruce Lee, like in the movie, Bruce Lee would have flattened him like a pancake. In real life, he came up behind him, and used Judo to pick him up and carry him around. After that, Bruce Lee taught Gene good striking, and Gene taught Bruce Lee good grappling. "Bruce Lee is a world class marital artist" -- Gene LeBell kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnvSdKealMiVorM

[@rotorairgroup8409]

@@neutrino78x all that is just someone speaking about Bruce Lee. 0 videos of him on an actual fight out of a movie set.

[@neutrino78x]

@@rotorairgroup8409 there's at least one. this is Bruce Lee free sparring with Dan Innosanto to show people what Jeet Kune Do is like (non-choreographed). kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaqbmnamprl2sNU Does it look like he's a shitty fighter? btw are you really going to tell me that GENE LEBELL is not credible? Jujitsu expert (9th Dan), long time stunt master for Hollywood, and the guy on whose life "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" is based? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_LeBell

[@shanemcferren5874]

im from indy and looking to train. who are you guys and how can i join?

[@taumax]

Great video. Can you do a video on what you might do on the in the event that the take down is successful? I think one of the guys mentioned that you cannot 100% defend the take down.

[@jamesdotson599]

Many impressive ideas to counter wrestling take-downs. However, I would like to see these done in actual freestyle sparring where theory would meet practice.

[@larsspast3856]

What vs Takedowns from clinch?

[@nathanstoneman1185]

Would you say that people who are big with no background in a MA might try to use their take down using weight and size as a weapon? Meaning if they were 6 foot 4 and weighing 15 stone they would just give it a go. I saw the jum sao, could switch it quick to give an elbow just to give you a split second to move out.

[@niveaulimbo6101]

This is really sad heres a guy who actually knows his stuff and the people are hating because theres written wing chun on this video

[@dannadipa9995]

Billy Dee got that blade:0

[@ziggydog5091]

Control the head, lower your base, don’t be afraid of the sprawl work out with serious grapplers, be prepared to fail a lot before you succeed. The point of being on the ground is getting up off the ground.

[@WingChunWoman]

I'm finally got a chance to watch this - and it is absolutely incredible. Thank you all so much for your thoughts and advice. I will certainly be keeping all of this in mind as I keep training! - Nic

[@tiendoan7669]

Im here to thank this man for helping me win my fifth FG against a wrestler. Keep it up man, it really helps

[@nizz0matic307]

whats FG

[@tiendoan7669]

Nizz 0matic Fighter gladius. Its a thing in Italy where you brawl against lines of 10 people. 4min each. Lost only through surrender. Rule still varies as its still new. Goal is to win as much as possible. If multiple contestants beats 10 then they go another 10. I heard that the people are randomly selected from dojo near the hosting areas. The fights can range from fists to weapons.

[@nizz0matic307]

Tien Doan Sounds cool.

[@buzguy123]

Do you have videos of this?! That sounds crazy.

[@tiendoan7669]

no i do not have Physical evidence of me fighting. I know that Kravmaga it if you ask them to host one for you :)

[@rsbrehm]

Hell ya! Lando Calrissian kicks ass!

[@charliemiller2485]

this as nothing to do with the vid but what is your top 5 fighting styles

[@kj3rd2657]

I will use a downward elbow strike to the back of his neck x3 real fast and hard. This has worked for me in my days of high school fights.

[@MrLeolesh]

+Keith Johnson if he already got in, there is not enough space to produce a devastating blow, required to stop a devastating takedown. So no, that most probably won't work.

[@kj3rd2657]

I said it has work for me in the pass, if you time him as he is coming in.

[@DStyleBoxing]

I walk around with a pocket knife. For the very reason, what if someone attacks you and tries to take you down. .

[@johanhagdahl7701]

It is so nice to find a page that is not saying , "oh, my fighting style is the best!" but to find diffrent tecknics against diffrent styles of fighting. They all have there ups and downs, strong sides and not so strong sides. But after 32 years of wrestling, I`m willing to try something new...

[@JohnDoe-oe3yy]

i agree better than most takedown defence concept videos ive seen on youtube but the problem with concepts is not all works if you pressure test it like at 18:00 if it twas that low and i have knowledge in ground fightting what will prevent me to slam my shoulder on your knees pull your ankle backwards like a ankle pick? like 17:31 no grappler will jus lie down like that the will post their warm and swing to the side 17:51 i wont keep on pushing what if a do a leg drag? meaning pull the leg backward? like at 3:50 your right arm is at his hip thats why it got trapped means thats now a double leg anymore 3:10 putting your arm out like that on a standing point of view if i want grap your wrist down is asking for a uchi mata if i pull my right arm out is aking for a hip throw

[@markmeiri7744]

I agree this was a bit too slow speed and not dynamic enough. But some good basics were discussed here. One thing most grapplers under estimate is how often they are open to strikes. Even MMA outlaws most effective strikes against takedowns

[@rsbrehm]

Mark Meiri The Jeet Kune Do guy said it best. The best way to stop a grapple is to carry a pocket knife. That's something to think about before you decide to try and wrestle around with a bad guy.

[@stango141]

One thing you guys missed is putting your one hip into the guy/into the ground. You have to put all your weight to the single point. Otherwise you guys were pretty good on the head control. One thing you can do is pull up on both elbows and pull him up to you. Also you have to make sure you do these moves hard in fast otherwise you are on your back.

[@Backhandlawz]

Anyone seen Ip man 3? May just be a movie but has a very good adaptation of Wing chun vs Wing Chun.

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

What an interesting video! I go straight into a sprawl instinctively. I would like to see the effectiveness against someone who is trained in newaza though. Since most BJJ guys basically scoff at helping anyone in another martial art, not to mention openly slagging, it's here in the comments section - it might be a good idea getting a skilled practitioner of Judo, particularly Kosen Judo, or some of the Jujutsu schools that also specialize in newaza.

[@lococavasa]

Honestly I think csw is a great method.and one of the most realistic combative forms of ground fighting. Eric paulson is a true pioneer and champion shoot fighter.

[@juniorpinedo2812]

2:47 I thought he snap his neck... Kinda scared me he wasn't moving lol and I heard a lil crack

[@artiewatts9861]

Thanks for the vid, Dom and friends, if I can make a suggestion, I'd like to see a future vid in a bar/club - I dont know if you have any contacts who might let you spend an hour or so in their bar before it opens. I realise that what you are doing here is illustrating concepts - the sprawl, controlling the head etc - but my concern is that each of the defenders here found a lot of unobstructed space that you just wont find in many bars. I know you cant cover every conceivable situation, but such a vid would be a welcome change from 99% of those on the Net atm. To the YT warriors who continue to knock you, perhaps they could make themselves available and show us all THEIR preferred techniques against a takedown/headbutt/glass-in-the-face attack .... ;)

[@darkhorse888]

1. single legs are way harder to defend. you pull the leg into your body before taking the person off axis. 2. defend by not leaving that front leg so far out in front ie boxing stance 3. all the other stuff is perfect. head peel, tan sau all works well. 4. learn the underhook and how to move hips in the event you do end up on the ground so you can get back to your feet. 5. i love the first guys offensive comment. 6. i quite like the variations of a cumberland throw.

[@STRYKERof9KnuckleStriking]

"To reach victory, we mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement; The enemy's 'center of gravity'." - Von Clausewitz You'd figure it is the one who is shooting in, the one who is taking the center of gravity of his opposition to have the advantage but in this video, there are some great perspectives on the counter to a takedown attempt so that you're the one taking the center of gravity of an opposing force in motion. Economy of motion is definitely to be considered. Speed and finesse will always trump power. The only affective speed is a continous one and with this video I have a few more options added to my arsenal to add speed in processing so that smooth is the way I flow when expressing my counters to such a take down attempt. “Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.” ― Bruce Lee

[@md_free85]

Knee to the face series move.

[@johanhagdahl7701]

Red Feather no real wrestler/grappler would attack from 7-10 feet away. A knee series in the face would never happend! I am not saying a wrestler would win in a fight, just that it would not be a knee series to the face after a take down atemt. Sorry if I misspelles sometimes...

[@md_free85]

Johan Hagdahl I was being funny, if you were in on the inside joke you would get it, but since you aint you don't.

[@md_free85]

Johan Hagdahl The proper tactic is to sprawl.

[@johanhagdahl7701]

Ok

[@robertoramirez4290]

Interesting but everyone did agree about having base and distance But like was mentioned the energy is not fully there. It's not that easy. Head control is key and I agree with Nick weight on his shoulder/back drill straight down. Everyone else leaves to much for the wrestler to do and change.

[@wargames5521]

With all due respect, it seems as if you are dissembling the issue. The progenitor of the true issue you are contemplating is in the efficacy of Wing Chun as the prime striking style for efficient and effective combat. It has been proven scientifically and practically that it is indeed not the most effective striking style in MMA fighting. MMA being the most applicable manifestation of martial art effectiveness and a veritable proving ground for style, has proven time and time again the efficacy of preferred methods. Im not saying your motives belie some kind of diffidence, only that if we begin with a false premise our conclusion will be flawed. Unwinding an inferior fighting style to its limits in order to apply it to defending against groundwork not only acknowledges this false premise but renders all of its outcomes mute. We can apply any number of techniques that "work" through any number of styles we wish, yet at the end of the day we are left with the most efficient and potent of them. Im not saying all Wing Chun is worthless, assuredly there are certain aspects one may borrow to use in ones ground theater, indeed some of exactly what you have shown here; but we cannot grant to Wing Chun what is beyond the scope of it's endemic characteristics, nor should we be sycophants to its desultory performance in actual combat. See beyond your way's limitations and be free to move, for only then will you be unshackled by the false premises that blind you to the true way.

[@IamusTheFox]

Something kinda on with this video, not about the take down, but the methods, was well said by Ian Sinclare, on this [ Tai Chi Power vs Method and Technique ] video. You might enjoy it, Sir.

[@tcfunvids]

Seems like the best option would be to learn ground fighting skills just in case your anti take down defense fails.