Jagex is lying to you

I don't think I've ever been this concerned by a reskin of an already existing update. Jagex is clearly lying to us, making the game grindier and more tedious than it needs to be. The game is already more than profitable. Stop misleading and milking players while disturbing the balance. Listen to your community.
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[@ProtoxxGaming]

Correction at 2:28 (not 40, but 60%)

[@typerightseesight]

theyve gone complete phone game at this point. necromancy is the nail in the coffin. i hit 107 this morning. omg. its nerfed. like 10xp a min less than what it was yesterday.

[@ianhopkins7457]

28.5% exp is the nerf rate, nowhere near the BS 10xp you spew@@typerightseesight

[@typerightseesight]

my bad. 10k xp typo@@ianhopkins7457

[@dillonkitchen8270]

@@ianhopkins7457it’s xp rates are at least 5x quicker than the average xp gain on any other skill so 20% is nothing. You go from 2-4m xp an hour to 1.6-3.2m xp. Even when ed3 was completely busted and you went full sweat mode you could barely reach the lowest xp rate in necromancy. It could’ve got nerfed 50% and still been the highest xp in the game.

[@ianhopkins7457]

fool dont tell me 28.5% is nothing, go tell your boss you`ll take a 28.5% wage cut, then come back and tell me its nothing @@dillonkitchen8270

[@sylthrim2398]

My boy Protoxx is serious; he didnt tell me to sit back and a relax with a cup of tea and to enjoy. Jagex done fucked up now.

[@iceogon]

Grab a cup of coffee, sit up and focus

[@Runescapers]

This comment has to be the best one.

[@g.waits4gainz205]

yeahhhhhhhhhh for real! its crazy how much a tag lie or lack there of can really put some serious context on the problems

[@BIG2hats]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@blessedbygod123]

I thought I was the only one that noticed that

[@IronAraxxor]

things were going too well

[@carlost856]

Yep Rax, massive fumble here.

[@00Dusty]

Honestly considering quitting again 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Kranon]

Precisely haha. I didn't trust Jagex before and definitely not trusting them after this

[@alwaysvenge3074]

@@00Dustyyou should we all should tbh maybe JAGEX will actualy make RuneScape great and fun to play instead of nothing changeing

[@tensinkano6888]

I just came back 2 weeks ago………… looks like I may leave for another 6 months or so

[@MPolo92]

thanks for taking a stand for this. i totally agree that this is out of control

[@ashie93]

pretty gross

[@funkguylorz7315]

Ridiculous. Higher ups just ruined all the good will they developed with the players this year in one single update to satiate their greed.

[@jjw6961]

Nailed it

[@alexlabs4858]

It's not just higher ups. Jagex isn't a small private company anymore. They are still private, however they are owned by a massive investor group which essentially makes their operations and decisions around wringing people out of the most amount of money they can the same as a publicly traded company.

[@Mikeliving292]

Please quit OSRS. rs3 players are brain dead, which is proven by the fact they play rs3, and they'll surely vote for shit updates on OSRS. TBH RS3 players should be banned from voting in OSRS polls.

[@stueygewy]

I didn’t even sit back and relax for this one. I grabbed my cup of tea and angrily sipped it.

[@benevolentfather3978]

personally im impressed at how fast jagex was able to kill the necro hype

[@dragonprism]

They were very clearly hoping to capitalize the post-skill release hype in ways they feel like they weren't able to for Arch.

[@Elite5ereN]

@@dragonprism Necro ritual nerf at the same time as hero pass release. Coincidence? :P

[@dragonprism]

Genuinely? I do think that's a coincidence. There were genuine reasons within the realm of design that don't wholly account for the bullshittery of MTX to address the exp curve and exp sources for necro. They're bummer changes, but...hard to argue they weren't aimed at making a healthier game. @@Elite5ereN

[@Mikeliving292]

Please quit OSRS. rs3 players are brain dead, which is proven by the fact they play rs3, and they'll surely vote for shit updates on OSRS. TBH RS3 players should be banned from voting in OSRS polls.

[@moneymikr7349]

Was on the fence about coming back and trying necro but after a ll these vids fk that😂

[@BulletSmoothie19]

Jagex saw the necromancy hype and said oh no they're having fun

[@JT-sk1qg]

I honestly think they do this, we like something nerf it / re make it so we don't.

[@25Dzone]

Jagex has done some shady ass things before but this might take the cake

[@goat-shaw]

wilderness removal, smiting free trade . swapping rs into rs3 .ect ect Just a continuation of F.U to the playerbase

[@FemNate]

The Squeal of Fortune being introduced, preying on children and mentally-deficient whales who gambled their money away for experience, was probably their biggest fuck-up. The fact that they have the audacity to preach to us now, about how the game was meant to be played, is unbelievable...

[@Rathial]

nah og squeal of fortune was the worst

[@buddah3414]

​@@goat-shawI think all 3 of those things where w's

[@HellHunter00]

@@buddah3414 2/3 to me. Free trade under the guise of hitting rwt is for the naive. Yea, a bond is going to stop gold farmers. Jagex just wanted its taste. A little kickback for them. It hurts legit players far more than impacting rwt.

[@MaikeruRS]

YAY Can't wait to play for 500 hours just to get level 120 :)))))))))))))

[@Barrowium]

Big props to you for taking a stand and calling out Jagex for this.

[@genhgiskahn694]

I love how they say unlock 100's of unique rewards in the mobile popup but it's just like 6 items reskinned over and over till you hit 100

[@Absquatulationist]

I think when they said that daily-scape is less important, they just meant it in that you can just spend money to get the stuff now instead of playing every day.

[@kjax139]

Lol😂

[@freshairkaboom8171]

You know shit's going down when Protoxx doesn't tell you to grab a cuppa tea, sit back, relax and enjoy.

[@omegahaxors3306]

So grab your pitchforks, get up, organize and revolt~

[@beat0life]

I appreciate protoxx having the nerve to call out a company for bad practices that gave him an all expenses paid trip to their hq to test out unreleased content not even that long ago 😂

[@Pounderino]

Solid journalism. Wish the rest of the world had this mentality.

[@S8tan7]

That's what we call integrity, and Protoxx has its in spades

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

Real can sense Real.

[@cheekyjebus5559]

People with very limited time during the week who logged on just for daily challenges are going to stop logging on all together. That might not be a huge part of the player base but it's going to have an unintended effect in the long run.

[@jordanious7711]

People arent usually just 1 or the other but a mix of both. Some weeks I play a lot, some weeks i'll only log in for challenges. Hell, I will go months with only daily logins, just seeing my exp slowly go up with challenges an keys is usually enough to keep me coming back. I'm going for max exp (Im master max atm so not super far off) and sometimes just logging in for challenges is still the only thing that keeps me motivated. Like sure, dailyscape is slow, but it's enough to keep my goals, etc at the peripheries of my brain. Chances are if I didn't log in daily I also wouldn't have periods of grinding.. I just would never think about rs

[@peteallyn412]

I am one of those people, and I have plenty of spare time, just not willing to waste hours a day just to do my daily challenges before i can actually get into the meat and potatoes of the game.

[@Etsa]

I would literally log on do my daily challenges and log off for months. Especially when I was busy with real life stuff when I only had like 10 20 minutes to play.

[@ap4702]

Jagex knows this is the case which is why replacing dailies is so bizarre.

[@maxcougill8436]

This won’t make me quit. But it’s just upsetting and demotivating. Plain and simple

[@crypto.dailynews]

Not quitting but more like taking a break. Again. 😅😂

[@Elite5ereN]

I'll be quitting again once I finish necromancy, and things like this make me not want to return to the game anymore.

[@SuperYtc1]

What's upsetting is that people like you support these scummy companies. So people can't enjoy games anymore, because they are made for fools like you.

[@brentc6723]

I'm sure Jagex is super excited that the necromancy ritual XP nerf has been largely ignored since it dropped the same time as the major game changing hero pass.

[@BottleofChips]

The game is just a chore that we're paying for. I'll be taking a very long break.

[@krityaRS]

This update brought 2018 Jagex out of its shell. Here's hoping they actually listen this time.

[@johncastille8849]

Every single year, every single one of these fiascos people like you say 'Heres hoping they actually listen this time'.... Sorry, they dont care. They aren't going to listen and if they do 'listen' it'll be just that. 'Listen' ...

[@gregcass12]

Lol good joke

[@alexkidd93]

They won't

[@kjax139]

We all saw this coming. If you just afk 1-99lvl it’ll take you 50 days if you play 8 hrs a day. Have fun guys. This is strictly just a predatory BP Edit: this is without doing any dailies or challenges. Still INSANE! You haven’t even touched getting to 99-120 and the xp goes up from 1k to 3k at 99 for just 1 level

[@knowledge4741]

I knew Jagex went downhill but wtf is this? 50 days at 8 hours a day? They better fking PAY ME to work on that.

[@antoniolum1506]

75% off stars removed punishing savers. Limiting Keys to 30. Limiting Keys to 10. Daily Keys being reduced/removed? Changing Yak Track into a slower more time consuming grind under another alias. What a ride with Jagex.

[@omegahaxors3306]

Jagex: You're going to love this update, it's going to make us so much money Playerbase: Umm, you guys do realize you're speaking into the wrong mic Jagex: ... ... ... just roll with it.

[@thefreshestdoug]

Getting real tired of rs3 getting obliterated by mtx just so old school can have whatever they want and a dev team that actually listens

[@Sammysapphira]

You don't need to buy it

[@tygonmaster]

​@@Sammysapphirathis is such a shitty take. If they are just cosmetics then sure, but they are literally selling GP with this and it affects the entire RuneScape economy.

[@cuttlefish6839]

They don't listen they constantly push pvp content when only a minority of players want. They keep adding content to the wilderness when only griefers want it and it gets down voted. Frankly till they remove forced pvp osrs is a trash game

[@omegahaxors3306]

Just sucks that OS players absolutely *shouldn't* be listened to on anything. Like there's a line between childtoucher anarchy and hypercapitalist exploitation. Either OS needs to start pushing content against the community's will or RS3 needs to collectivize or it's just going to be nonstop either nothing ever happens because factions of the community are feuding and shit nobody asked for outside of a bunch of out of touch investors who think ripping off WoW will give them the same kind of money that WoW pulls in.

[@rayden9014]

Runescape has always been paid 2 win since 2001 with the introduction of membership, lol. What came out first?@@omegahaxors3306

[@MattMadeThings]

im sooooo mad about losing the daily challenges... i dont even care about the keys soo much i just cant believe they took away my most favorite part of logging in every day..

[@liryolos]

After playing for 2 years, I've never felt so glad I already quit this September before all of this bs.

[@dixiebellau]

Classic till current player. I always just 'nope' the fuck out once jagex shows their true colors. Money hungry company since the gowers handed over the reins..

[@dradra2day]

Lol just don't do it. Tf

[@icygrave]

Totally agree with everything Protoxx is saying. But sadly the only way Jagex will change it is if the sales for the pass/bonds flops.

[@tygonmaster]

All the more reason to not support it

[@felxstorm]

But we all know that there are whales out there who will do just that.

[@tylermaccallum3529]

They're turning the entire game into a mobile cash shop.

[@abir1125]

It's absolutely incredible how you gathered all this data in such a short amount of time

[@tygonmaster]

A lot of it's being posted to the RuneScape subreddit

[@Jackson-sr4fk]

@@tygonmasterdownplaying it

[@tygonmaster]

@@Jackson-sr4fk truly

[@zxxcman3519]

And it gets worse if you want to buy the cosmetic rewards from the shop. To get everything, you need to basically hit level 214, or get 94 levels/282k points after hitting level 120. This would be 1175 skilling hours, or an additional 13 hours per day of skilling over the course of the event. Realistically, the only people thatll be able to get all the shop rewards are people that use their credit cards, account sharers, and botters.

[@Elite5ereN]

And people that play 18 hours a day.

[@crypto.dailynews]

And people who work from home

[@Shankadanky]

Congratulations Jagex, you've done it again... Hope y'all are proud.

[@curthenning6833]

1. I could have sworn they said on the livestream something like 'no skips' 2. The track doesn't end at 120 since for the 5k token outfit you need to reach level 133 to earn enough tokens

[@Pesmergah]

The first ever update where I didn't grab a cup of tea, sit back, relax or enjoy.

[@joshsmallen]

"While the battle pass doesn't take too long to complete, it does if you start missing missions" Ah, they reduced dailyscape by increasing the fomo of dailyscape even more

[@mjollyakaweedwhat]

I did not grab my cup of tea, I did not sit back, I did not enjoy.

[@DreamusEnto]

Another thing i wanna call out here. From the Livestream - it was mentioned that Daily keys were removed from Daily mission, due to the fact that all Promotions on TH was balanced with the daily keys in mind. I would be shocked if Jagex decides to "nerf" the coming TH promos to make the rares/animation/Overrides etc to be easier obtainable due to no keys from daily missions. Cuz if not - it would result in even more Bonds needed to be bought by players to not miss out on good-looking outfits/animation from TH.

[@professorscitwi3384]

This was something I brought up in the last video's comments that if they don't think the junk out of TH/Promo then removing keys was just a pure cash grab with fluff.

[@wtfisallthisbs8056]

it's cosmetics, on e should never have to pay for them in anyway, they should be in the game as free content since they do nothing for a game beside a cosmetic override, the sooner we combat that idea, the sooner we can stop supporting such monetisation bs

[@Diego_D7]

@@wtfisallthisbs8056 it's the other way around imo, people shouldnt have to pay for those game changing content buffs.. put in some cool cosmetics that people can spend money on if they like it enough i dont see a problem with that

[@wtfisallthisbs8056]

@@Diego_D7 thing is like this and many other "passes" prove, they hide things that help in the game like xp buffs, resources etc... within cosmetics because they know the number of people willing to pay for useless cosmetics has increased because that is what this current generation spends money on, so they try and squeeze those "like myself" who don't spend anymore money than a subscription to pay for those things that are now included in cosmetics.

[@Diego_D7]

@@wtfisallthisbs8056 ofcourse i dont deny that much more people will buy such pass if content buffs are in it.. still doesnt change my point/opinion

[@zukodude487987]

Funny thing is that this is not the first time they have made goofy updates, i remember how angry people were when Jublix implemented the squeal of fortune. It was just a cash grab.

[@BrandonClappr]

You couldn’t purchase keys when it first came out. It was just a daily perk of logging in. People started getting angry when they mentioned they would sell spins.

[@zukodude487987]

@@BrandonClappr Jagex did that on purpose to trickle in the mtx a bit more slowly. It is even silly to think that they were angry for simply adding in a sell feature, it was mainly because it suddenly became p2w that made people angry and it was only done for greed and they had to change their own policy because it contradicted what the update was doing. People called out Jagexes hypocrisy and rightfully so. There was no other reason to add it besides making more money. Greed is the answer.

[@OidhcheMhath]

"Yo, we heard you don't like FOMO and dailyscape, so we're reducing FOMO and dailyscape by making dailies slower and less rewarding, so you quit and don't have to worry about FOMO and dailyscape".

[@tugevpuder]

One can not relax, sit back and enjoy

[@AlissahKat]

You know its bad when he doesn't tell us to grab a cup of tea, sit back and enjoy... Its very clear that the main focus of this update is making people buy bonds and keys. It was never about gameplay.

[@sillykanji]

Protoxx. If you ever abandon this game and move on to something else I'm coming with you. Keep it going bro! 💪

[@dg9509]

I switched to OSRS couple months ago because the path RS3 is taking. I really appreciate the in depth look, backed up by math. Thanks for backing up the community!

[@PhenomRom]

@@MoreCreativeThanSpielbergliterally how

[@uberhaxornovanongalaktiksk9798]

@@MoreCreativeThanSpielberg no its not, osrs is far from rs3, the only mtx is buying bonds and rs isnt even a competetive game which doesnt really affect your gameplay, yes it loses itegrity, but not spending money doesnt cost you efficient xp training methods

[@Brandon_Small]

He's not reaching, It's not that far off from rs3 besides the combat style, 120 capes and solomon store. Everything else is a reflection of it now.

[@kjax139]

@@uberhaxornovanongalaktiksk9798they’re just trying to troll

[@cabbagedestroyer1693]

​@@Brandon_Smallno eoc, no mtx, please explain to me how osrs is like rs3

[@mattbeutler2907]

Wow thanks for the breakdown here. I was planning on just ignoring everything around hero pass and don't mind they got rid of the dailies (so much free xp why?) but this change is clearly predatory and crazy that it takes that much time. I have no desire to do 1 hour long missions that i dont want to do, in the middle of the other things im working toward.

[@nesttea2239]

I doubt that I would go on each day and do dailies anymore, now that daily challanges are gone.

[@thrls]

This is for sure EOC 2.0, mass exodus of players if they don't make it 5-10x faster to max out. The absolute spit in the face. "You don't like training a skill? You use daily challenges to slowly progress? Too bad, that's gone. Give us your credit card if you wanna get the 15% XP boost." There is absolutely no point in trying to complete the pass by playing, you'll end up finishing 85 days in and get the maxed benefits for 5 days before they hit you with the next pass and you've gotta start over. This smells like predatory mobile games, where you either give $200 or spend 1000 hours to complete it...in fact, that's kind of accurate, not even a euphemism at this point. Jagex, if you're reading this: value people's time. We are people, we are not slaves to you or the game. You push people hard enough and they will never come back.

[@Momotarou0311]

Ive switched to rs3 for a while because I was burnt out from toa in osrs, thanks to hero pass I went back to osrs. Thank you jamflex, you reminded me why I avoided rs3 like the plague before

[@domreto5055]

Played osrs but it's too easy like has to be the easiest MMO in the genre I got toa log beat inferno 2nd try and beat all the dt2 bosses game makes me sleepy use like 1/3 apm than rs3 both games need to do better tbh

[@Momotarou0311]

I mostly just like rolling on the loot slot machine and enjoy the dopamine hit of "Oh shit, it's a purple" But yeah once you get the mechanics and it "clicks" it becomes braindead easy. It's still challenging learning a new boss and mechanic for the first time

[@ATROFlAR]

"beat inferno 2nd try" 🤣ok buddy. Even Woox didnt do that but youre the pro I guess@@domreto5055

[@qwerty_and_azerty]

I’ll say it again: The reason this is being called “a major CONTENT update that will change the CORE playing experience” is because their plan is to powercreep those buffs over time to the point that it really does affect the core gameplay experience. Mark my words, by this time next year, there will be a boss release that you can ONLY access by paying for it or some other buff that, currently, sounds absolutely ridiculous to us. It’s coming.

[@FrostedMike]

I will take your sentence of "change the core playing experience" even farther: There are 120 levels of rewards in the pass. What also has 120 levels? Skills. What also takes a lot of time to do? Reach level 120 in a skill. Skills are also split between members and free. Jagex literally added major content in the form of skill number 30: the P2W skill.

[@Brandon_Small]

Trillion dollar company that wants more and more. It's sad that they forget it's the players that made Jagex big in the first place.

[@qwerty_and_azerty]

@@FrostedMike That’s a neat way to look at it. Two skill releases within a month

[@wienurr]

Protoxx gained SO much respect from the player base with this one video.

[@JoshuaJohnson-ks6bm]

He already had it tbf.

[@wienurr]

@@JoshuaJohnson-ks6bm i know

[@FrostedMike]

I don't usually follow the update news. First time I heard of the battle pass is from your previous video and I didn't bother to check farther. I'm playing casually, sometimes play for just 30 minutes a day and sometimes 3-5 hours a day in multiple sessions. I also don't always have the time. The previous daily missions were convenient as it helped me catch up and actually progress for the day when I couldn't sit for long. This time I had to sit for more than an hour to complete a single daily, which is arguably fair. I spent more time getting the resources to complete my daily, but it's still within the realms of "fair" and it does encourage a more active gameplay. Something still felt odd about it, couldn't quite put my finger on it at the moment. I started to notice how unapologetic the monetization is when one of the challenges was to check out the level 120 reward and the shop. The obvious answer to "why this is a challenge?" is for you to be aware of the shop's existence. But check out the beauty of the scam: 1. first step is to scroll all the way to the end of the rewards list ("check out all of these rewards") 2. 120 is the last reward, the same as a skill and anyone knows it takes a lot of time to reach level 120 ("It takes a long time to complete this challenge"). 3. You now scrolled through a lot of attractive rewards. Next step of the challenge is going to the shop with the most attractive item there costs 5000 points. ("Here is where you can buy stuff, and the one you want is expensive"). 4. "You can skip the grind if you pay". They literally walked you through a tutorial on how to P2W if you haven't notice already. And the reward is just too short of gaining anything special. Now we add everything you said in the video and by this point in gameplay we get a feel on just how long it will take to complete the track. The pain is kicking in. I also want to remind you that one of the challenges is completing rituals, an activity which takes around a minute to complete just 1. Another challenge is completing 50 obstacle laps which also takes time for just 1. Some of us barely got the time for a single daily now and we suppose to add two of the most time consuming skills on top of that? Thank god Farming isn't there as well... Lets talk about the beauty of the buffs for a moment. They placed them very early on. So early I was rewarded these buffs the moment I logged in. If the gap between paying users and free users wasn't high before, this time the gap is higher. For merely having a membership you level up faster than free users. Bonus xp solidify this claim farther, but at least you had to apply it first and it only works for skills for your choice, you can also ran out of it. Without bonus xp we level up just as fast as free users, something that isn't true now. The craftsmanship doesn't end there. Remember how there are 120 levels of rewards? Just like skills? Yup, you guessed it: Jagex literally added a P2W skill.

[@S8tan7]

Never have i seen such a united youtube comment section. I really do hope they listen, and good on you for such unwavering integrity Protoxx

[@CinderWisp]

if anything, this update just proves that Jagex doesn't respect our time as players.

[@retiredcatto]

You mention so many good points. I hope it gets changed. For me the interface is too confusing. Its overwhelming. And like you mentioned- I am someone who doesn’t have a job where I can afk rs and in all honesty the missions are not something I really want to be doing with the little time I will have during a normal working week. For e.g my current mission is hunt 500 scarabs. Ok great you are trying to get players to engage with content but why would I want to do that? How much time would that take? All for some cosmetic? No thank you. At the same time, I don’t find the rewards good enough to buy skips. I think the yak track was actually better than this

[@crypto.dailynews]

The year was so good. After my hard long shifts i was looking forward to grind rs. They kinda added a bitter taste to us hard workers..

[@tygonmaster]

Changed? More like hopefully removed just like rune pass was

[@gentle_singularity]

Btw, thank you speaking up Protoxx. No bs and straight to the point.

[@tripphazzard6679]

It's like Jagex is slapping us in the face with the money we gave them and then telling us we didn't give them enough.

[@NightSide1349]

That’s exactly what’s going on

[@MetuhlHeadSarah]

PREACH

[@kenglucktan8996]

This is the FIRST game that makes me constantly FOMO, burned out and angry with every updates. It is unbelievable i tell you.

[@daveburrows9876]

What about HP did they actually think we'd like? I feel like prey being stalked.

[@javierlau3965]

Generally didn’t care about yak track at all but this kinda got on my nerves.

[@yodak4]

I would like to express my gratitude to you and all of the other youtubers for your integrity. It would be all too easy to shill for jagex as a content creator but thankfully all of you have the right moral compass #stayawesome

[@pucie_boi]

We demand a Midschool Runescape!

[@DiabeticGameGuy]

It used up all my challenge skips and Yak Track skips that I had been saving. I leveled up to 45 when I logged in. I took a screen cap if anyone doubts this, but it made me sad. I'd been saving those up for years, and they were just converted without me agreeing to it. At the very least, it would have been nice if they had let us keep those and use for the levels post 99 ***OR*** for a season where we didn't have as much time. This would have allowed a catch up mechanic that we had been saving up for instead of just using them without the players consenting.

[@FizzTheFox]

One thing I really hate is "premier" membership. I get they need to make money but it feels misleading to have the good pass rewards locked behind a very specific membership type when I'm sure many people with regular membership were somewhat looking forward to the rewards that they cannot receive now.

[@Diego_D7]

they can, if they use 3 bonds 😂

[@matthewcampbell781]

I really like that even though they show you lots of love you keep it real with them and hold them accountable. This man can't be bought.

[@Noktis88]

This is probbaly the one thing they could do to lose the majority of their player base in a day. Disgusting how hell bent jagex is in taking its players money

[@MegadethTillDeth]

Well said and well broken down. The info is important.

[@Thouforsaken]

The biggest thing I like about Apex Legends battle pass system is the challenges never disappear, You get a new set each week and sometimes in different weeks there will be two of the same so even if its forcing you to play the game in a way you don't enjoy you can earn double progress

[@chrisgryder3170]

Thank you, you have always been a voice for the rs community. thank you for calling jagex out like this. but honestly, they wont care that they bring new problems into the game, but they are making insane money just from doing this. a lie yes, but wouldnt be the first time they cheesed us like this and not given a fkkkkk.

[@chrisgryder3170]

ill just end up buying 3 bonds in game and going that route, i aint given them no more of my moneys, they get enough through membership per month.

[@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916]

I'm substantially less likely to buy keys if they're getting rid of the daily challenges with 3 extra keys.

[@SaradominOSRS]

One of your best video. Well done Protoxx. This should be on a resume

[@r0260064]

Truer words have never been spoken about Jagex than your last few sentences of this video.

[@Zhayedan]

Let's add that they removed all of the old yak track cosmetics AND the shop they introduced for them less than a year ago, and aren't planning to allow any sort of catch-up for previous hero pass cosmetics either. BETTER NOT MISS OUT BETTER GO PLAY GO PLAY MORE DONT STOP NEVER STOP PLAYING

[@HouseTre007]

this level of greed is INSANE lmao

[@XephyrDK]

I liked a lot of the video, you bring up a lot of good points. I do think though that someone needs to dig into how long it will actually take if you take into account the time spent doing the missions because you double dip in a lot of areas. Time spent doing the daily mission (skill n kill) also counts towards the weekly, which also counts directly for the track. Also, the one point I disagree with is removing the expiration of daily missions. They are exactly that, daily missions, but maybe reduce the rewards? The whole idea of daily missions (in any game) is to get people to log in daily. We have weekly missions (with bigger rewards) for the people who can't or don't want to log in daily. Final point, I agree some of the buffs are very strong, and some seem useless. The buff area needs to be looked at much more closely for better balancing.

[@Jimbob1337]

The COD battle pass is around 100 hrs total and has boosts every few weeks. This basically means you can complete the whole thing in 20 days of playing 5 hrs per day. This is so much worse it is incredible how blind they are.

[@killler240]

I have debating starting OSRS, so I could try sailing when it is released. I think today is the day to start. I am premier, so the hero pass does help me, but I do not like this direction.

[@TheRanqee]

OSRS doesn't like mtx !.Play osrs best game!

[@GermanZindro]

Or you could pick up a different game that has modern graphics, better monetization methods and developers who actually care.

[@killler240]

@GermanZindro I play other games, and I will be going back to FF14 soon-ish. I like RS for AFK.

[@killler240]

@MoreCreativeThanSpielberg OSRS has not been the same for a while. I don't understand why you are crying about a new skill. The style of game play is what's important

[@Joeydevs]

this might surprise you but OSRS is run by the same company. If you havent started OSRS yet I'd recommend playing another mmo/game instead tbh. Once RS3 is dead they will start sucking OSRS peoples money with crap like this.

[@SirPudge]

This update is terrible, both literally and for the game. We must continue to make our voices heard or begin cancelling our membership until this is resolved!

[@tvdvd8661]

Thank you for making this video. i also noticed how my maxed main had to do the daily challenges for apmost 1 hour yo finish all 3 while my noob ironman was 20 minutes to finish it... Im just going to stop playing. Ima finish my obligations to my clan, with events and stuff and let my account fester. Screw this. I played forever since i was a kid and i can let it go. I don't have cost sunk fallicy. I always knew a day would come where i leave. Where i leave all my 10 accounts to be free in the pastures ❤

[@ac3kn0ws9]

YOO I LOVE YOU😂❤❤❤ yk what jagex needs to stack 3 daily mission max that should be the limit. Idk why but i feel in the parallel universe years back in rs the daily missions stacked for 3 days till expiring

[@frankbaird8645]

Thanks for the excellent info, but this is just depressing. I've been playing for over 15 years now, and I've never felt more unwanted by Jagex. I don't no life and I'm not a whale, so I don't matter. :(

[@null_dev]

you are a good person. thank you.

[@caddph]

Note about Marks of War; It appears to grant Marks of War per Kill / 5 = Hero Points (so Hermod is 12 HP per kill, AG 1 mechanic is 5 HP per kill), up to a total of 200. I noticed that even though I'm gaining xp killing a boss, if you're not gaining MOW anymore, then you get 0 HPs. You'll likely need to do something quick like Kerapac to max out, then go do skilling/killing elsewhere. It'll likely be less than 440 unless you're doing some skilling while bossing (e.g., dissing something). So doing AG 1 mechanic is only worth doing, if you can diss something once per minute.

[@Mortifix]

Thanks for the video. I was reading the pass last night in game and was thinking that the numbers I was coming up with couldn't be right for advancing through the pass. As someone who plays almost everyday and is able to play at work from time to time, I don't know if I will have enough time to get through it...

[@GRIMHOOD99]

I quit in March after 6 years (I did play one month leading to necro release but on a brand new acc and I stopped like 2nd day after necro release) and this is exactly what I feared would come when first yak track released. When Jagex (and lovely investors) treats RS3 like a piggy bank that gets filled by players there is no reason to play anymore.

[@saltykraken9471]

Sucks they are so greedy. Id like to get some of those cosmetics but there is no way im grinding that hard for something I already bought.

[@prestonhawkins1560]

Completely agree with your assessment. This update has severely disrupted ironman xp gain through dailies. Not happy with Jagex.

[@beechstkid]

thank god you made this. hope they listen!

[@mahaok1]

remember folks if you dont feel like you HAVE to buy the premium pass then your not the target audience! Given how colour by numbers the whole thing is that means its using all the psychologically manipulative tricks that target neurodivergent players directly to get them to spend money they dont have (A great exmaple of this is how every single time you unlock something on the pass it sticks a number 1 on the button to try and convince you to go look at it, increasing your chances of buying the premium pass. As a neurodivergent player myself that notification causes my physical pain to ignore lol). Even if you dont personally think this effects you I can guarantee at least one person on your friends list or your clan will be exploited into buying this garbage so you should be against this in solidarity with your fellow players. This is BY FAR the most disgusting thing jagex has ever pulled

[@PhenomRom]

Facts

[@titatoverteefje8168]

Premier members indirectly paid for it. So they have to do it.

[@seandoherty958]

they have really screwed over ironmen . No more challenges and we dont get the buffs (not the xp ones) :(

[@chadbjornberg2896]

If you complete the Zamorakian Undercity with Chaos Ward active then the kill should not go to kill count (even initial dungeon runs to allow a player to skip dungeon to skip to boss instance) or even reflect kill times on leader boards.

[@TheMarksmansam]

Also if you do chaos ward and die. It consumes the charge and you use one every time you go in the dungeon

[@longhairasian2902]

This is Jagex's way to 'retain' players to keep the player count high and long each day. I bet Jagex is trying to sell the company so they're creating data to show potential buyers that there are 'active' players each day.

[@victorgondar3667]

Jagex ita s turning our loved rs3 into fornite

[@PAYNEISAWESOME]

Jagex isn't going to listen because they don't care about us whatsoever

[@MOBelisle]

Saddest part is that non-premier rewards are tagged as "Free". However, I am paying for membership, so I'm not a F2P player.

[@ChevalricRS]

Uncommon Jagex 2023 L

[@yobroh0]

Ugh.. “pay to get major buffs” makes me want to play something else. Losing faith

[@tadas8808]

Jamflex trying to make moparscape.

[@jackers30]

Not even telling us to relax but going right at it. Appropriate

[@jazzysingh001]

best joke I heard in a while "remove hero pass"

[@aronk3688]

The Hero Pass is making RuneScape remind me of all the reasons I stopped playing WoW. I'm a busy person, I get a guaranteed 20 minutes of gameplay in the morning before work and then if I'm lucky, I might be able to play for 30 minutes after work. It's maybe only once a week or two I'll get the time to play for more than an hour

[@cobradude09]

Look, I'm normally the type to ignore these kinda updates, But what I logged onto today actually made me wanna just pack up and move to OS right then and there. I love RS3, It might not have ALWAYS been that way, But when I came back to give it another go I fell head over heels in love with it again, The same I did as a kid. Seeing the mind boggling decision of following a fantastic update like Necro with this "Major Update" truly shows me that no matter how much they claim it or try to prove they do Jagex simply don't care about the players one single bit anymore. I want more channels to cover this garbage and show the rest of the world how much of a bottom feeder jagex are. Would love to see someone like moistcritikals take on this (I know he only plays OS) but even he would call this a fucking joke. Sorry for the rant. This update is the straw that broke my back for defending this game.

[@sixtysoulsrs]

I love that the company thrives on literal RWT, yet condemn it as much as they do.