Jaguar I-Pace - the future of the electric car? | Fifth Gear

[@trevorpen]

Mine is now 4 months old, the car is amazing, i get about 245 miles range and mostly charge from my solar panels. If you want fast it's got it in buckets loads but its also got quiet, comfort, style, practicality, its got everything. Only issue is public charging so planning a journey is essential but in my case I very rarely travel more than 100 odd miles, topping up the batteries when i get home is no problem. 5 stars and more for me.

[@stevereisman6872]

Same here! I've put about 4,000 miles on mine over the last 4 months. Straight-up, I never thought I would LOVE this car as much as I do. I also own a Ferrari 360 spider and the Jag is perhaps quicker and amazingly just as agile....can't say enough good things and I hate driving internal combustion now, so archaic and old-school.

[@pepstein]

The comments in this video show how little your audience knows about EVs.

[@jamesroberts6423]

I'm UK based and have had a Tesla Model X for over a year. As long as you have access to overnight charging I would recommend an EV in an instant. I cannot see myself buying another ICE car ever again.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

James Roberts "As long as you have access to home charging", that's because the network is that unreliable!.

[@arijit276]

@@Robert-cu9bm Its because the network is just coming up, its a new thing so it will take time. Like James said if you have home charging you have the huge advantage going electric. No petrol station visit and far less maintenance than ICE cars.

[@tomsixsix]

@@Robert-cu9bm No it's because it's a problem to use an EV if you don't have somewhere to charge overnight, no one wants to spend 30 minutes filling up their car. But with overnight charging it happens while you sleep so the time taken doesn't matter, just wake up to a full charge every morning.

[@kyleb5518]

I started with a model s in 2014 and switched to a panamera hybrid after just 8 months, recently gone to an I pace and it’s a superior vehicle

[@jonesjonz1]

Why are folks in Great Britain so worried about range, the country is not even that big. Anything is better than diesel and those petrol prices they have to deal with. You all love tea so much have a cup or two let the car charge and be on with it.

[@JohnSmith-hy1ir]

I'm British but i do agree

[@TheHeatingheroes]

When you can do 300 miles a day for work with one hour break and multiple site visits there is simply no time for charging. That’s why we are concerned about range and what will happen to second hand vehicles battery life isn’t that great on old batteries.

[@jonesjonz1]

@@TheHeatingheroes you need a company car to right off on taxes if you're doing that much driving.

[@dorientjewoller113]

Losing an hour to have a charge that isn't a complete recharge, that's a waste of time. Plus, not everybody has a house with a garage where they can recharge an electrical car. Are you willing to pay the fines if your electrical car is wrongly parked on the road while charging ? Or are you going to annoy your neighbour on the ground level of the flat to get the electricity. He might be kind hearted towards you, but I don't think he is willing to give up his own time to provide that service to everybody of the flat. Sounds great, going electrical, but as long there are too much practical issues surrounding it, it will never get of the ground. The direction that Mazda went with their engines is in my eyes at this moment the only correct solution. Getting more mileage out of less petrol.

[@jonesjonz1]

@@dorientjewoller113 If your this worried about time and charging issues then electric cars are not for you, just that simple. But folk in Great Britain shouldn't have range anxiety issues the country is probably 800 miles by 400 miles. If your gonna go on a long excursion into Europe or around GB rent a diesel.

[@Antontoo]

Drove around both i-pace and Model X....in no way are they even remotely comparable. I-Pace is more like a narrower, higher sitting model S....with smaller trunk and significantly inferior range.

[@Smellindamix]

Not to mention, performance, charging network, autonomous driving safety etc

[@bordersw1239]

Trouble is - in the U.K the Model x is £40k more than the Jag.

[@aldeflorio5500]

Tesla fanboys are a plague..but consistently hilarious.

[@edenbreckhouse]

Prices start at £63000 - that'll appeal to all of us then will it?

[@dg115]

I picked up a 16 plate 30kwh leaf for 14 grand with 17k on the clock. Can easily do over 100 miles plus.

[@Jasontvnd9]

@@dg115 what a boring as sin car..... you can have a leaf or a good second hand hot hatch.

[@tomsixsix]

@@Jasontvnd9 Well if you want exciting you can get a Golf GTE plug in hybrid, 25 mile EV range + petrol engine for longer trips, 210 hp, genuine hot hatch performance. Almost as fast as a GTI, but at a quarter the cost per mile. I have not put petrol in my GTE in 3 months. Or you could get an e-Golf. It still has 140 hp so not slow although not a hot hatch the off the line torque is great. Both around £15k right now used.

[@LivingLifeSlower]

@@Jasontvnd9 Maybe they dont wanna look like a chav.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Old report. Not accurate in any way. Wait for the 5th gear Model 3 test. Autumn 2019.

[@robertl2856]

Just had 48 hours of e golf 120 mile range...32k car.....not for me

[@Martin-dx5zs]

Robert l try out a model 3 ;)

[@supaahflyy]

Don't go electric with anything else other than a Tesla. All these other posers are about a decade behind

[@petea7323]

No one can afford these practical electric cars mate. The argument at the moment is just ridiculous. Ur not in the real world. My car is worth about £500 and does 500 miles per tank. I really can’t be bothered with electric cars, let alone the insane up front cost of a decent one. Performance is neither here nor there. There’s too many speed restrictions, traffic. They’re talking about fitting speed limiters to all cars so what’s the point in a car that does 0-60 in 2 seconds it’s total BS.

[@Martin-dx5zs]

Cooper 2004 I bought an electric car as my first car and it hasn’t cost me a penny to run due to free public chargers and solar. Also it’s increased in value due to demand, for an evaluation roughly 1000 more than what I paid.

[@supaahflyy]

@@petea7323 Hyundai is making some capable electric cars at a price point near the bottom end. They are readily accessible for a person who would otherwise be in the market for a petrol or diesel car. That goes without saying that the electric car would cost that prospective owner much less to run. There are options out there but you have to be in a position to be able to buy a new car. Not every electric car has to be a Tesla mate.

[@yoda-1551]

This weekend I filled up my M3 with £73 worth of V-Power, that will get me circa 180 miles. 180 miles in my i3 will cost me £7.50 approx. Just to share my experience, I live 2 miles from my office, 10-20 miles from my immediate family, the 70 mile range of my i3 can 100% cover a whole week of travel. I charge my car once a week on a Saturday night - when I'm sleeping. Sometimes I charge for free at Costco, and my whole week's driving is courtesy of my fortnightly shop. I've consistently beaten 330d's at the lights, and kept up with a S3 between 40 - 70 mph. Fantastic vehicles, go test electric, and think about your use case, because I bet a 200 mile car will more than cover you for a day of driving.

[@mechanicadam2011]

apart from we all can't afford to buy them in the first place.

[@russcattell955i]

Amazing ! You bought totally the wrong car for your needs, Then went out and did it a second time. In your place i'd be saving a shed full of money & make use of buses, taxi's & shoe leather.

[@yoda-1551]

@@russcattell955i Amazing you made a totally wrong assumption to a KZbin Comment!

[@yoda-1551]

@@mechanicadam2011 I bought used, half the price of new, pretty affordable compared to a similarly specced 1 series/3 series once you factor in fuel and tax savings.

[@russcattell955i]

@@yoda-1551 I did not assume anything, just reacted to the information you supplied.

[@adriankingdon3055]

Rather than concentrating on developing battery powered cars we should be researching petrol powered phones.

[@niceboy60]

Yes , not having to charge the phone for all month with one drop of fuel I mean I fill up my diesel car every 2 months

[@MrIsaacE]

So sick of having to plug my phone in every night. Would much rather drive somewhere, preferably a retail park or supermarket, to refill.

[@teslatrev5764]

adrian ... could concentrate on developing petrol powered heart pacemakers for when you suffer from the effects of poison from fossil cars..

[@LivingLifeSlower]

I have a coal fuelled Nokia.

[@karltidman3338]

Problem I have is I can't charge at home, I live in terraced house, with no parking space at my house. I could be parked way up the road and I'm sure running an extension lead up the street will cause issues somewhere. Also no charge point at work, and unlikely that'll happen unless they're forced to add them. For me, it's a no. Not practical.

[@MrIsaacE]

have you asked the council about marking you a spot? I've also heard of councils willing to install a charging point at a lamp post if you're willing to cover the cost of the upgrade.

[@paulanderson79]

@@MrIsaacE Problem is protecting it for that person's usage. I get very angry when I see two EV charge points with a shed of a MB 300 CDi parked across both, That is arrogance at its best. Even BMW drivers couldn't quite match that

[@richardcarter1000]

Indeed. They don't work at all, unless you can get onto your own drive and have a supercharger.

[@MrIsaacE]

​@@richardcarter1000 or fill up at a charging station every couple hundred miles... like a... car...

[@richardcarter1000]

@@MrIsaacE fine if you can wait around for hours. Why do EV fans think we should all drive EVs? It's like vegans want us all to be vegans. We still have a choice thank god. I'll make the most of it while I still can. You can drive an EV and eat as many avacados as you like. Enjoy.

[@chrisj9700]

I don’t have a driveway at home so charging on the road is going to be very expensive, that’s if the public charge points haven’t been taken up by zip or blue city cars. If petrol is going to be banned then hydrogen fuel cell cars need to be developed, especially for long distance driving.

[@ZesPak]

It's not "expensive", it's impractical. If you have an ev, you should be able to charge it at home, otherwise I can imagine it being cumbersome. I just plug in the Tesla every night. Takes zero effort.

[@chrisj9700]

ZesPak If you have a driveway then an electric car will be super cheap to charge if you get a tariffs where electricity is cheaper to use overnight. Public charge points are more expensive.

[@wermagst]

If you're worried about the cost to charge a BEV, you're in for an unpleasant surprise with that fuel cell. The energy required to produce hydrogen for 100 km in a FCEV would get a BEV 3-5 times as far. And that's not even considering the markup of the fuel station provider.

[@Olliebobalong]

Having driven one, the only thing stopping me from getting one is their availability. They are phenomenal.

[@MendicantBias1]

Internal combustion engines are waste heat generators that also happen to move vehicles down the road.

[@ronarmfield913]

More like playing catch up to Tesla . Especially when there dry cathode battery tech comes out . Model 3 performance will leave it in another zip code .

[@neilbrandon]

I pace would be a lot better if it was a little narrower and instead of nearly 12m turning circle it was about 11m. It’s a little too big for the UK if you have narrow roads and width restrictions on your daily drive. Apart from that it’s wonderful...

[@diggleda2952]

P100D Model X should have been the car he driven

[@hemangkumawat907]

If u did this test in Norway or somewhere near that + with a tesla. Which is proly more accurate demonstration of future would hold. He would be much more blown away..

[@DB-dx8xu]

Only downside I read and hear is a lack of charging stations, up to 8hrs charge if this is correct, til more charging stations became available, even at your place of work, to charge whilst working, as person's living in flats, on road parking with no option to charge from a charger fitted to their home's is a issue to resolve for the future of electric or (your local city jag dealership would collect your ev from your home, to take it to the dealership with a charge station at their dealership, for you.. to charge it for 8hrs, and then return it to you once charged up or a courtesy car whilst yours charge) with a focus on a build of lower charging time's, also, (but if i could loan a courtesy car in on road parking with the no option to have a charger fitted to the home), whilst mine charged i certainly would love one, I love it, and the best styling of a electric car, I've seen at present

[@lukalukic1]

Price difference is 20,000 euros for that amount of money you can buy fuel for at least 7-8 years

[@thatguy1919]

lukalukic1 you probably didn’t account for how much money you would save on gas in the long run

[@RICHARD10195]

For people who can drop over £60k and onwards on a car maybe it’s the future I’d rather pay my mortgage first

[@RICHARD10195]

John W even half price is a stretch for most people who will spend less than £10k on a second hand car neither of my cars are worth more than £2k each and get me from A to B to real issues. The longevity of the batteries is not yet tested fully and cost a fortune is needing replacement which will be well out of the warranty period. Look at any electric car value once out of warranty they become too much of a risk to buy.

[@themightydash1714]

@John W Or you can spend £2,500 on a second hand luxury german saloon with much much more comfort and have enough money left over to drive it for 600,000 miles. I know which one makes more financial sense. You want to bankrupt yourself so your vegan friends think you're amazing, you do that. I'd rather buy a car and drive it on the cheap, then use the left over money to live a stress free life not wondering how I'm going to pay my rent, which is someone elses mortgage, giving them all the investment and money, so they can retire, while i work my arse off for a car which makes pricks I dont konw and dont care about think I'm cool. Jesus fuck get your priorities straight xD Use your money to buy your house, then work as little as possible and enjoy living life. You sound mental. The cost of ownership of a 60k car xD well it's 60k right off the bat! Then 8k for a new battery everytime it dies. Or a few grand for an old diesel and 58k left over for over half a million miles of fuel. which works out at 44 years worth of fuel!!! FORTYFOUR YEARS OR FUEL!

[@wakkadakkaify]

who buys cars outright those days?!

[@RICHARD10195]

wakkadakkaify plenty of people who don’t wanna be paying finance to never actually own the thing

[@wakkadakkaify]

Because owning a car is such a bonus. But they are the same dinosaurs that dont understand EVs

[@Stmcead]

I am a Tesla X owner and I looked at the iPACE before I purchased the X. It is a very nice car however, I would suggest it is more comparable to the Tesla S not the X. The X is so much larger and has so much more room. My view is this is a horrible comparison.

[@TMS5100]

"total ban on combustion engine vehicles." good luck with that. 99% of commercial shipping is via combustion engines. say hello to skyrocketing prices for every consumer product across the board. go for it. can't wait to see how fast the backpedaling comes.

[@philterry3293]

I think he was talking about road vehicles

[@davefitzpatrick4841]

Battery technology is still in the early stages of development but massive improvements have already been made, the original leaf would do around 80 miles if you were lucky, but now the Kona and e-nero will do 250-300 miles !

[@diggleda2952]

Oh Jimmy.... you have no idea

[@kkallioj]

The I-Pace is a fine car, but hardly a range king among EVs.

[@doubleclutchonline5811]

If he was impressed with the iPace, he should drive a Tesla.

[@aaron___6014]

DoubleClutchOnline Tesla fan

[@QuintanBrassfield]

Aaron ___ So? Is there something wrong with being a fan of something?

[@doubleclutchonline5811]

@@aaron___6014 I've driven the iPace. It's very nice. This guy seemed shocked by the acceleration. The slowest Tesla matches it. The fastest Teslas are in a different league entirely.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

DoubleClutchOnline Then you compare the fit and finish, and jaguar wipes the floor against tesla.

[@doubleclutchonline5811]

@@Robert-cu9bm I've owned Range Rovers. Please don't attempt to suggest that JLR knows anything about build quality. I'm just happy that I don't have to waste my Saturdays in the service department anymore.

[@armanicrompton787]

4.25 🤣 His face was so shocked.

[@unemeoj]

Does the crazy weather and obvious speed that our globe is warming not make a bit less range tollerable? It was over 40c in Paris yesterday, hello... ?

[@rodrigoalmendro3118]

Joseph Menu I present you climate change, it happened before it will keep happening no matter what we do.

[@unemeoj]

@@rodrigoalmendro3118I agree that the planet has been warming. Mainstream science tells us so, for about the last ten thousand years, since the last ice age. Yet there is no way, from my own personal observations nevermind the word of trusted scientists, that our burning of fossil fuels does not likely excellerate the process. So then why not opt otherwise if we can? Just to be as respectful as possible and to not greedily exploit (endanger) our only home. Also, who likes smog? Let's change.

[@silentgamer666]

hello

[@exoticargeo]

@@unemeoj Go stop lighting from starting forest fires if you want to save the planet, and plant trees while doing that!

[@pip5461]

Nice Vehicle, looks like the Tata group spent a lot of money allowing Landrover to develop their brands. But the key issues of bringing the projects to the masses have been over looked, COST! EV is still in its infancy, despite its promotion by Elon, and if it is going to be of any value or success to the average person then these values have to be addressed. As it currently stands, no pun intended, the majority of these cars are only affordable to a very small percentage,who lets face it, don't really care about the environment or to those who are willing to put themselves into serious financial hardship.There are some who, because of these costs, have taken it upon themselves to build their own. The cost of running these cars and the general infrastructure makes their ownership relatively prohibitive as it stands at present .

[@wermagst]

We're still at the beginning of the EV disruption. The main cost factor are the batteries and their production costs are decreasing by approx. 20% per year. It's only a question of time, until BEVs are cheaper to buy than ICE powered cars. The costs to run an EV are already much lower than a traditional car.

[@D13-r9w]

You drive to work, drive home and charge it. 99 % of the time it’s fully charged. The only issue is for people with no off street parking.

[@Bubblegummonsters]

Councils are now using lampposts as outlets

[@niceboy60]

@@Bubblegummonsters the Word Fast Charging is being missused , there's loads of unsuitable public charging such as 7kw public chargers are you going to stay 5 Hours waiting for you car to charge ?

[@tomsixsix]

@@niceboy60 7kW is fine if you go to the cinema or shops for a few hours but it is unsuitable for restaurants or short visits. The i-Pace has 100kW charging capability though. It can fill up in under 30 minutes. Or charge it overnight at home and wake up to 100% every time.

[@niceboy60]

@@tomsixsix 7 KW is not fine if your car is a Jaguar Ipace with 100kw 7kw actually means 16 or 17 hours to charge . although 7KW in a car with only 24kw battery pack can still be called fast charging

[@tomsixsix]

@@niceboy60 The iPace has a 90kWh pack - at 7kW it would take about 13 hours to charge. That works for an overnight charge, if the battery is completely flat. In the real world, most people won't use the full range and need to completely fill it every time, and if they do, they can use a 100-150kW fast charger.

[@Ethankeenan02]

Try driving to scotland in that car youl have to charge it to often

[@DC-pe3fr]

oooooo a million electric cars in 5 years.........but there's currently 40 million cars in the UK so actually 1 million is nothing.

[@DC-pe3fr]

John W ICE cars are still predicted to be produced for at least 30 years according to BMW... then they’ll last another 20 years so ICE are going to be around for a while yet. Also electric cars aren’t perfect, till the power comes from renewable sources, charging times are reduced to ICE car levels and batteries actually last electric cars won’t overtake the ICE cars in terms of sales.

[@DC-pe3fr]

John W that’s great if you’re in a Tesla and on a route where superchargers are available but it still takes longer than an ICE car to refill, and not everyone can afford a new Tesla, and it still doesn’t answer my other points. ICE>EV currently, eventually yes EVs will become better but my point is ICE cars aren’t just going to go away tomorrow it’s going to be a very long process and I doubt I’ll see then end of all ICE cars on the road in my life time. EV will juts be a fuel choice alongside ICE

[@Neojhun]

We have genius here. Yes it will take a long time, its going to take couple of decades to change the entire fleet.

[@timexironman100m]

I will stick with my 2007 jimny... these cars are too expensive at the moment for me.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

It's an antique then

[@SquareoftheyearFM]

Lots of people with outdated clarkson on top gear era ideas on electric cars should check out Jonnys other KZbin FullyCharged. Much more positive up to date information, including what does happen to second hand batteries, how many miles are EVs actually achieving etc.

[@adriankingdon3055]

Herald or Dolomite?

[@niceboy60]

I ve done a PCP to simulate what would be the monthly costs to buy the car . It works out at £1400 a month with a 10k deposit So I can save £40 of fuel a month Plus saving £10 a month in road tax 🤔😳🙄

[@themightydash1714]

Or spend £2,500 on an old used BMW or Merc and have 44 years worth of fuel money left over. If you're wondering if you can save money by buying an EV, the answer is no. If you wondering if leasing and EV is cheaper than leasing a fossil fuel car, you're a moron because you're thinking about leasing to start with xD You dont save money by doing any of this shit, You save money by buying an old E-type for 50k, leaving it in a garage for 20 years and driving around in a cheap reliable diesel, then selling the E-type when it's worth millions. If you have the money to buy an EV, you should ahve the sense to know spending 60k on a depriciating asset is moronic.

[@wakkadakkaify]

1400 a month? aahahaha what. Search harder. you can get this car for about 500 a month.

[@mechanicadam2011]

Add car insurance for a EV and your be worse off.

[@Clarkeyrules1]

You’re comparing an old car to a new one though ... compare the M3 to the Model 3 performance for an actual fair comparison... funnily there faster one is also the cheapest to run by FAR

[@niceboy60]

@@Clarkeyrules1 I get your point, when it comes to comparing performance cars to EVs . Sadly there's no EV comparable to a Regular Car . I mean if I was planning to buy a 2019 Renault Clio for 16k why Would I pay 32k ( Double for) a smaller Zoe with 90 miles range 🤔🙄

[@arunparkin2552]

The biggest problem for me is the sheer size of that thing. It can barely fit inside a UK parking space and not everyone needs a car that is two metres wide. Another thing is the pop-up door handles; while they may look cool they will break in no time and cost thousands to repair. If I were to buy an electric car, something like a Volkswagen E-Golf would be ideal.

[@supaahflyy]

The ipace is tiny. It's really not bigger than a C class on stilts. Now a model X is a mammoth. A proper SUV. This ipace is nothing more than a compact sedan on stilts in terms of size

[@Clarkeyrules1]

supaahflyy the Model X isn’t an SUV as it has zero off-road capabilities unlike the iPace which is fine off-road

[@supaahflyy]

@@Clarkeyrules1 right. I'd hazard less than 2% of owners of these SUVs will ever take them off road so that begs the questions what's an SUV in this day and age

[@Clarkeyrules1]

Well it doesn’t just mean “is big” the model x is just big, it struggles after basic off-roading it doesn’t particularly tow very well either unlike the iPace. It also drives like shit and looks even worse

[@arunparkin2552]

supaahflyy it’s not necessary long, but it’s wide. If you look at cars from the 1960s the difference is noticeable. An Austin Cambridge is only 1.6 metres wide and 3.4 metres long. Something like a Ford Anglia or Morris Minor is even smaller, almost the size of a Smart Car. There’s plenty of room inside them too and most cars only have one or two people inside them.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Range and resell value are the two big showstoppers for me at the moment. Hydrogen is the answer long term.

[@FAT8893]

I'm with you on hydrogen.

[@johnlightbody9942]

"Only pay £13 for a full charge", he says.... Are we to believe it will stay at that price?! As Treasury loses £Billions from loss of fuel duty they will then of course charge more for the electricity for vehicles.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Soar Alba! Electricity is from private companies, so the only way the hmrc could get more or tax the lot. Which would mean people who don't own EV's would be paying a tax for them. Not a viable way to go.

[@AKA001]

"Only the Tesla comes close".... Come on Johnny, this doesn't even come close to the Tesla battery technology, it has no Supercharger access, no 3-phase charging, poor real life range, the iPace I drove didn't barely did 200miles (with a 90kwh battery!!!!). Also the iPace doesn't compete with the Model X, it competes with the Model S, perhaps even the Model 3, it's a 4 and half seater with limited amount of bootspace and almost no frunk...

[@QuintanBrassfield]

Woody W that article is more than a year old. That problem was based on Tesla Service centers having a lack of flexibility due to government restrictions in Norway. This is no longer a big issue. As for Tesla’s reputation; there’s a reason this company is still on the rise. Most ppl who go the way of Tesla never turn back to anything else. Myself included.

[@P51]

hey it’s goblin motorwerks guy!

[@brunogregori8491]

The problem are: disposing (regenerating loses 30% of the capacity) the battteries, the cost and pollution derived by mining lithyum, and the electricity which is still produced by fossil fuels in its majority. Add the plution made by the production of solar panels and their limited life and the picture for the electric car doesn't look so bright: to me it emits as much as a normal car if you factor in the production, but I don't have data to support this theory

[@CFG39]

Even if your electricity is produced by coal, the pollution generated is hardly anything compared to filling your car with gas, diesel and you're not emitting any pollution as you drive.

[@Neojhun]

"but I don't have data to support this theory" Maybe try to verify it before making your self look silly.

[@bordersw1239]

It takes about 4 years before ev cars balance their production emissions compared to a petrol car. From then on their emissions (including electricity generation) are drastically lower than a conventional car. Battery life for most ev’s should be around 15 years for most owners.

[@niceboy60]

Ev's would make financial sense if they actually achieved consistently the advirtised range

[@sl077766]

Who's Jimmy de Ville?

[@BlitzkriegRap]

4:25 hahah that's what I would do!

[@Vazin]

I would still rather own my dream car. A 1991 Audi 200 20V Turbo Sedan. Emotion and feels are bigger variables for me.

[@intothemultiverse1033]

Strange you keep showing a BMW in the opening sequence...

[@r1rider787]

A commercial for Jaguar. They should pay more for better acting classes. Didn't buy it

[@gastromacho2]

I just want to humble more expensive car and motocycles with acceleration of my electric car from the red light. Who cares about the range...

[@ramblerandy2397]

If the Jaguar couldn't convince Jimmy, nothing... err a Tesla Model 3 could. And have £25K change.

[@DBlock5566]

@Woody W dude this is so false, it literally hurts my eyes. First of all tesla build quality has gotten to a point where u can easily compare it with other traditional manufacturers. The minimalistic interior is all about taste. I as a millennial think its exactly what a mordern car suppose to be! plua the white interior is just hands down the most beautiful looking interior. As far as the controls go, it takes time to get used to but i guess ure just an old fart having problems with change. U probably never set inside a tesla

[@DBlock5566]

@Woody W haha model 3 absolutely sloughtering its competition from germany being the most innovantive car on the planet and the trend will continue.Model S just won best car of the last 70 years so clearly ure wrong if we look at numbers and facts. Ure opinion ia far outnumbered.

[@Adam.Piper62]

The problem for me of these cars is the used market. Now I know prices will come down and ranges will improve but good luck buying one of the second hand when fully charged you get like 50 miles range. Not to mention any true engine lover will be bored

[@alanscott989]

Once full electric cars become the dominant force , the government will slap tax on electricity . They will loose out on fossil fuel revenue , need to claw it back somehow . Also I predict an end to off peak charges , they will have one rate and the car owners will pay just like we did with fuel duty

[@peterschmidt1453]

I believe in New Zealand many diesel vehicles owners must send in their odometer readings and have a diesel tax bill sent to them. But don't worry, all these new generation cars all have integrated GPS, the government will get the data from the car companies and be able to track everywhere you go. Along with camera's, cashless transactions recording what you buy and where the government will have no problem working out how to tax us all and determine if there are any crimes they can charge us with during our day to day activities.

[@teslatrev5764]

i predict there will be more off peak incentives to even out the draw on the grid

[@richardclark6113]

What is Jonny doing here? Is it fully charged?

[@anubhavbhattacharya6216]

Has anyone here spared a thought for the amount of pollution it takes to make batteries? That's more than most high power engines!

[@chillout1109]

We have to start somewhere. Yes, our manufacturing processes are unclean at the moment. But if we wait to clean up our power grids, our mining methods and our manufacturing processes, we will never change because cleaning up those areas will take centuries. Electric cars are the easier spot to start at. Then we will clean up our power grids (which we are already doing anyway). And then we will clean up our manufacturing processes (which will take a bit more time, obviously). Going green doesn't have a quick fix solution. Most apparatuses that cause pollution are so intertwined into our civilisation's everyday survivability that it will take a very long time to eradicate them all. In a century or two from now, those that will be living on this planet then, will look back and see how it all began with the shift to electric mobility. If we are serious about killing pollution on this planet, we have to start somewhere, even if that be at electric cars.

[@anubhavbhattacharya6216]

@@chillout1109 I understand what you mean. It's not about all batteries. I love the I-Pace. But I don't think we should use lithium ion batteries. We should rather use solutions like fuel cells or aluminium graphite batteries, achieving the same purpose, but polluting much less.

[@peterrobannsobrepena6029]

Wrong

[@myanghua]

Out of the production line, yes, BEV has higher pollution than ICE car. But the running it is a lot cleaner. The break-even point is about 2.5 years. Since the average lifespan of EV is far longer than that, our next generation would thank us to replace ICE car with EV.

[@myanghua]

@@anubhavbhattacharya6216 there's no known green way to generate hydrogen economically right now. So fuel cell is simply "fool" cell at this point. Other types of battery are still at their infancy. Once they prove themselves to be better than lithium ion battery, EV makers will adapt them. But it could be 5 years or more away. We are running out of time to deal with climate change and can't wait for the "vapor" battery.

[@chrisali2173]

The biggest problem is the cost of them.

[@buzz5797]

Super acceleration and no fumes...truly wonderful. But even if you disregard the environmental impact caused by battery production and the high cost for a vehicle with substantially less moving parts, you still have ridiculous charging times. Get the standard range to about 300 miles and a recharge time of 5 minutes and a 20k cost for a family sized vehicle and they will catch on. Then you only have to build some nuclear power stations on the hurry up. Also how will people in houses that don't have off street parking actually recharge them. You cannot have pavements covered in thousands of cables. Any other option,such as as on street ndividual charge points, will more than likely be vandalised so regularly as to be not worth even trying, especially in inner city environments. So at the moment well off people with houses with off street parking, that don't mind waiting an hour to recharge every 200 miles on longer journeys (let's say rich retired people because most businesses couldn't take the impact of recharging times being so long) are very slowly beginning to buy electric cars. Great.

[@AdventureDriver]

People who don't have off-street/private parking can't charge EV at home. So EV's are an elite motoring experience. If a ICE takes 5 minutes to fill up and an EV takes 45 minutes to get a bit of charge then, for example, motorway stations that have now 12 fuel pumps need 45/5 * 12 = 108 charge points. Is that going to happen? Put a caravan behind an EV and the range drops to about a third. The depreciation of EV's is horrendous. Run out of juice with an EV and the tow truck has to come. EV's are not a replacement for ICE cars but an addition to the range of possible vehicles. EV's are very good for commuting and city driving. In sort, EV's are very good for rich boring people who go nowhere or people with a second, ICE, car.

[@davidellis8141]

The cost of buying these cars is out of the price rang of most people. The cost of replacing batteries in future when they no longer give charge and range is also prohibitive. Cars like these are nowhere near cost effective. If councils, government want to ban them from town, city centres because the old ones give to much pollution then vans lorries should also be banned; it’s just hippacritical to charge in population centres, if there’s a problem.

[@justyou2913]

Using Jaguar brand for 18+ years and this is my horrible review with the I-PACE. I've had a horrible experience with Jaguar's I-Pace. I had the vehicle for a year, and have only been able to drive it for approximately 2k miles. It has had issues with battery, software malfunction, charging system, and even when you would try to start the car it would make noises. Its a shame that Jaguar has tainted its brand with such a problematic car. If you want to be walking to places instead of driving, BUY a Jaguar I-PACE.

[@homomorphic]

Why would anyone charge at a 7kW L2 charger?

[@timfordfalconxf7714]

Evs are ok. Driver less is the shit we should be scared of

[@poorboybmx2511]

Is anyone upgrading the national grid, if we all changed to electric vehicles the pylons would glow, would be interested to see the offset figures for combustion engines vs fossil fuel burning power stations which would be on high demand 24/7

[@LasseThomsen]

That is such an old argument, most people do 10-50 miles per day, so the actual charge time that can be anytime from midnight to 6am can easily be done and will help to level out the grid using smart charging. We also now have so many offshore windmills that coal power plants are hardly getting used. More urgently, do you have kids? do you want them to grow old? well then give them a fighting chance and make your next car a 100% electric one.

[@ramblerandy2397]

Complete misnomer. The National Grid spokespeople even say the present grid, with no improvements could accomodate everyone with EVs. Put it this way, if everyone fuelled up their petrol and diesel cars at the same time, could the resources of the UK's fuel stations cope? No, they couldn't. But we don't fuel up at the same time, and people won't be charging at the same time either.

[@davefitzpatrick4841]

Allot of Ev owners also go on to install solar panels , I already have them installed and haven't taken the Ev plunge yet! 40% of our energy was also produced by renewable last year and this grows each year, Ev's will actually help the grid with v2g technology where cars batteries are used to store excess power from renewables for the grid to use at peak times ( most cars aren't used 95% of the time !

[@paulanderson79]

100 years ago there wasn't much of a supply infrastructure for fossil fuels. Demand soared, supply matched it.

[@oliviermagere]

Made me laugh that this video is sponsored by Peugeot

[@LivingLifeSlower]

Why?

[@oxycotton1742]

To fuel up a car doesn’t take 60mins ....this “ev revolution” sounds stupid...don’t get me wrong EV can be fun but if you forget to charge it and the next day you need to be somewhere early ...you’re simply fucked.

[@teslatrev5764]

oxy cotton yes but if you forget to charge it you're simply f...king stupid

[@KASGTR]

Great 👌

[@mynamejeff8394]

The future if we like it or not is electric,i love the combustion engine i would go electric but i think we need like 10-15 years until electric cars are ready for everyday.I think the biggest problem is the charging as not everyone lives in a house and charging it takes too long atm.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

More like 5 years

[@JD-eq4dp]

He looks a right c*** with that beard !

[@naveenk7770]

We have the technology to rapidly build & deploy EV's . But, as of now manufacturer wants to drain the benefits of gasoline vehicles. On the other hand manufacturers like Tesla & Jaguar wants to take the benefits of niche market.🤑🤑🤑

[@jacknapier7036]

Jonny looks old now 😳

[@kenndo9906]

Nice car.....

[@davidbeppler3032]

I-Pace is worse than 2013 Tesla Model S. Jaguar recalled them all, almost 5,000 of them due to brake problems, fire hazards, and inverter problems. Junk.

[@kapilkoka3196]

David Beppler Tesla is mostly junk except for that touch TV in bwt the dash board

[@BHBeckenbauer]

I stopped watching fifth gear because of the crappy new presenters like him

[@googleuser-th5hu]

*I'm always confused about electric cars .. I love them and I hate them*

[@jovan.ramjewan]

Why do you hate them?

[@googleuser-th5hu]

Jovan Ramjewan Lol just type .. Tesla caught fire and you will know why.

[@pepstein]

@@googleuser-th5hu wrong! Do you have any idea how many car fires there are every day? It's so common it's not remotely newsworthy. NHTSA says risk of car fire is no higher in an EV: wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicle_fire_incidents

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@googleuser-th5hu "LOL" Don't be an idiot. BMW www.autoblog.com/2019/04/19/bmw-adds-185000-vehicles-engine-fire-recall/ www.cnbc.com/2018/10/23/bmw-to-recall-1point6-million-vehicles-worldwide-over-fire-risk.html MERCEDES www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-mercedes-car-fire-a444-16187161 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3mcqpSubM6jhM0 AUDI fortune.com/2019/03/05/audi-product-recall-volkswagen/ www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2143180/audi-recalls-about-12-million-vehicles-coolant-pumps-risk GM www.reuters.com/article/us-gm-recall-idUSKCN1S91B3 FORD www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ford-recall-vehicles-pickup-trucks-fire-smoke-seat-belt-a8525616.html

[@Neojhun]

@@googleuser-th5hu LOL You funny.

[@yingmustang67]

Halleluja!!! There is a God, Thor the thunder and lightning....... EV car......

[@balajikarthi9040]

Literally I just saw what is the Future of JaguarLandRover😂.. I hope Tata motors don't let them down, Iconic brand with Iconic models

[@nithinpaul2588]

Don't start to mock unless you should know what Jaguar was doing at fords hands and now ☺. Let's forget about the iconic 60's and Enzo Ferrari's quote on legendary e type; let me add, back in early millennium they were struggling and making cars & sports cars with a fragile gentleman tag now they are making things as fierce as the name sounds!

[@balajikarthi9040]

@@nithinpaul2588 it would be undeserving for Jaguar to say that they had only made iconic models if you don't mention Land rover, LR were the epitome of off-road vehicles since its inception and I wasn't mocking at Jag but about the successive videos recommended by KZbin.. I can remember Ratan Tata's interview to a popular auto magazine he captioned the company's purchase as "if I were Mr Ford I wouldn't sold JLR" so they might be prudent then(Ford's ownership) and now(Tata's ownership) they had done it! American economy's crunch 🤔

[@Ivanjake64]

Where are the charging points in England less than 100,000 I bet

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Well, there are 23 MILLION homes in the UK. If 20% of them have access to outside power, that's already 460,000 "charge points". Within a year or two every supermarket, shopping centre, high street, cinema, Gym, car park, etc, etc... Will have charge points. Many will be free, you won't stay at one place to charge, you'll "browse" or "graze" charge, 10 minutes at a time, picking up 50 miles as needed. The vast majority of journeys are under 30 miles. A very large number of cars travel less than 200 miles each week. Those drivers will plug in during the day, while shopping, etc and won't ever worry about range. Those who do travel? Drive a car for 3 hours in the UK, that's 180 miles, stretch that to 200. Well, already, a Tesla model 3 can add that in 23 minutes old the older V2 charger. If you drive 3 hours, you're stopping to eat, or other. Stop at motorway services, park, walk to the building, "empty the driver" grab a burger, check email, walk to the car, that's 20 minutes. The car has regained the mileage. Expect even better batteries and chargers very soon.

[@Neojhun]

OOPS....

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Roger Starkey Well for starters the supermarkets only supply a 7kw charger, so he not going to get 50miles in ten minutes. Then you have the fast chargers on the motorways, which if your lucky they're working. Most likely not though. So once again your stuck with a 7kw charger. Then put also have the fact that if there's a problem with the charger whilst charging it stops, you come back a hour later only to realise you still have no charge. The only practical way to charge the car is sit and wait so as you can keep a eye on it. Until charging takes the same time filling and the station are as reliable (ie: not broken when you turn up) as petrol, the masses will not convert.

[@teslatrev5764]

musah actually there are millions of charging points in England...

[@malph9216]

There's not an EV that can get me from Cambridgeshire to Gloucester and back in a day when I go to visit my son and his wife. My RSQ3 does it with nearly half a tank left. It sounds better and is way more fun than a Nissan Leaf.

[@Neojhun]

WTF Model S 100D can easily do that route. You just stated a Falsehood.

[@bordersw1239]

Just about every modern ev will do that journey in a day. Worst case for the cheaper ones is a 40 min charge and the 240 mile journey will cost you about £12.

[@taajmanzoor8610]

Wtf is that beard

[@rob19632]

So after traveling from up north to London it will take an hour to fill up if you can find a fast charger. Oh and where does the electricity come from on a dark foggy winter's day. Not from wind and solar. And how much lithium do we have on the planet. Not really saving the planet at all.

[@SpasticusMaximus]

What's with the wanky beards?

[@alanjenkins1508]

What electric car advocates do not want to tell you is that there will have to be far fewer cars in the future and far more public transport. This talk of electric being competitive with petrol is a smoke screen for what they really mean which is electric cars for the elite. I suspect that most electric cars will be rented for occasional long journeys with quick change batteries.

[@blxtothis]

Good old Jonny! I keep saying it, batteries are primitive and totally inefficient. Once the weight can be reduced to a quarter of the current mass and have range to match a typical full tank of diesel and recharging be complete in far less time, only then will they be a replacement for planet smoking. Most of us will be unable to charge at home (no drives, people in flats etc) and the infrastructure to supply enough facilities for those of us in this situation is never going to be possible. On the plus side, every one I’ve driven has been superior as a driver, despite the practical shortcomings.

[@exwhyz33]

Fake news. Tesla 3 will sell an EV model for 35000 very soon.

[@exwhyz33]

@Woody W The competition (including the Chinese) will force him.

[@Kraken1000]

Load of rubbish. Simple. How many people can afford a Jag? The Leaf is way dearer than a Fiesta. If I want to nip from Yorkshire to Bristol to pick up my Grandchildren it turns it from a one day to a two day job. I will happily accept a hybrid.

[@adriankingdon3055]

Kraken1000 car or grandchild?

[@russcattell955i]

Kraken it gets worse here on mainland Europe. Driving longer distances is commonplace. From my house I can drive to a channel ferryport, collect a passenger & return home in one hit, that is 5 hours & 320 miles each way. Or Germany's Rhine valley, some 580 miles. all trips I have done several times.

[@Neojhun]

"Yorkshire to Bristol to pick up my Grandchildren it turns it from a one day to a two day job." But that's 222 Miles each way, 444 miles return. Soo how often do you do 444 miles in one day? That problem has nothing to do with BEVs like Tesla. FYI they have 300 miles plus range can be charged in around 1hr 15min totaling 600 miles. Hmm 444miles is less than 600.

[@chillout1109]

@@Neojhun And how many people can afford Teslas or this Jag I-Pace?

[@Neojhun]

@@chillout1109 Tesla Model 3 SR+ Starts from $37,000 before incentives. Soo many people can afford considering the US Median New Car Price is roughly $36,000. Woops sorry for dropping Facts on you.

[@ownlabs]

This is simply the beginning, electric rules.

[@grabir01]

A gas engine turning a Generator to charge an electric car dose not make the electric 90 percent efficient. The wind Generators cost more in fossil fuels to build than the electricity they will ever generate to recover. I love electrics.. I hate the lying about them. Electrics do this.. The motors have less parts and should be more reliable, and they are cheaper to operate because of the cost of charging is cheaper. For now. I love electrics. I hate the lying!!

[@spooks196]

What?!

[@grabir01]

@@spooks196 huh?

[@Cardudes]

No sound, 32 KM of range per hour VS 600KM of range in 3 minutes, less anxiety, yeh i'll stick with combustion. Electric cars are for people who think they're doing good to the environment but don't take into account how pollutive it is to produce electric cars' batteries.

[@James-oo1yq]

Sorry, but batteries are novelty for the wealthy, as you're always going to need another car for longer journeys. Another 20 years maybe....

[@rogerstarkey5390]

No, you're not.

[@Neojhun]

"You're a geinus. It took 50hr & 16 minutes to do this journey. They are just a novelty can't go anywhere far." www.thedrive.com/new-cars/17312/tesla-model-3-sets-new-ev-cannonball-run-record-of-50-hours-16-minutes Redondo Beach, California to Ball garage in New York City 2860 miles in 50hrs 16Min. Stock Model 3 no special equipment.

[@rusraducosmin8903]

ugliest beard I have ever seen wow lol

[@KiwiShoot]

It's interesting. But the Jag i-Pace is horribly inefficient for an EV. Like in a stupidly gas guzzling way if it were a petrol car running at 5 mpg. But then if you're paying Jag eye watering prices for the EV, chances are you really don't need to care about running costs.

[@Clarkeyrules1]

KiwiShoot stupidly inefficient ? The equivalent to 5mpg ? You literally have no idea what you’re talking about hahaha, it’s less efficient than the Tesla’s yes but not by a huge amount

[@bordersw1239]

Compared to some EV’s it is inefficient. But it would about £13 to “fill the tank” compared to over £35 for a comparable diesel Jag returning 40mpg.

[@CoolHandJoe88]

Electric car hurts environment more than you think. Don’t get me wrong I’d love electric car if it can REALLY be environmentally friendly. The major problem is the battery. It is toxic and extremely difficult to recycle. Here are the things the electric car manufacturers don’t want you to know, materials that make up your car battery are born deep in mines, may be extracted by child labour and in some of the most polluting ways possible. Even if the mining industry were ecologically sustainable, lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries have been known to explode and/or catch fire. Avoiding such incidents, the batteries are often resulting in the disposal of a spent, but still toxic and flammable battery in your local landfill. Hydrogen cars currently are best. The end result of burning hydrogen is water and 95% of the car can be recycled. So check your facts before jumping into the environmental friendly electric car bandwagon!

[@Neojhun]

1. "child labour" is for Cobalt. Which was a desperate choice by Tesla in the early days not necessary now. There is already alternative which use 0% Cobalt. Also Lithium is not Mined but Pumped as Manganese & Lithium Brine Water. Child Labour is kind of not useful there. 2. Lithium Batteries do Not Concussive Explode, no blast wave. They have very scary Class D fires which are very hard to extinguish but localised and tent not to spread. Even better fires take some time and vast majority of accident victims are long removed from the car. 3. BS Batteries are difficult to recycle. Step 1 is RePurpose WHOLE CELLs because only 30-40% of the cells are dead when battery is not road worthy. Which then can be used in stationary storage for another decade. Step 2 is Cell Break Down has alot of packaging and structure which is Plastic & Aluminium Can obviously easy to recycle. The hard part is the Electrolyte Sponge Mix which is roughly 30% of the mass which still have no figured out an economic method to seperate. 4. PEM Hydrogen Fuel Cell use way MORE Exotic Metals similar to Cobalt than Lithium Batteries. Metal Catalyst is literally the key ingredient that makes Hyrdogen Fuel Cell operate. 5. Mass fundemental problem is 0.08988 gram/litre denisty of H2, which makes it not viable for large scale energy system. Sorry but you just repeated a bunch of frequently copied rumors which is based on Technical Ignorance.

[@CoolHandJoe88]

Neojhun you are so wrong in responding facts. How many more reported Tesla car caught fire before you admit there is a problem? The fact that electric car batteries are so difficult to recycle and toxic that people just don’t recycle them. The fact that the battery needs to be replaced every 5 years or so is not cost effective nor environmental friendly. Until they sort out a proper way to dispose and to recycle the end of life battery. Until they sort out the inefficient range. Until they shorten the normal charging time to under 30 mins. They are not environmental friendly nor efficient enough for normal people to buy them. Very simple, electric car simply not environmental friendly as you lot make out to be nor is it efficient enough to take over internal combustion engines for now.

[@bordersw1239]

CoolHandJoe88 . Batteries replaced every 5 years ? There are Tesla’s with 300k miles still on original batteries. If you’re doing 50k miles per year, you may have a point.

[@James-oo1yq]

Faster than a Veyron? No no no, not even over a quarter mile, and after the quarter mile you're left for dead, and out of volts in 3-4 miles at top speed

[@Robert-cu9bm]

James Thom The veyron does 10's over the 1/4 mile. His does 9's You have enough fingers to count that high, so you should be able to see that 9 is less than 10.

[@James-oo1yq]

Veyron SS does 9s, and will do it all day. I noticed you didn't mention the 4 mile range when doing drag racing 😂😂😂😂👍🏻

[@Robert-cu9bm]

James Thom No the veyron ss does a estimated 9.8s 1/4 mile.. Which is taken from power figures and weight. In reality when people test it on the track they get 10's Flux capacitor does it in 9.8s with the time slip to prove it. Range isn't a argument in a 1/4 mile race, as you only need to go... Wait for it... 1/4 of a mile. What do you think the range of a top fueler is??

[@James-oo1yq]

Robert Okay, I'll just change my car to the 720s, and of course mileage matters, the whole video was about trying to convince someone that electric cars are better, and failed!

[@MSkallywagg]

This is hilarious I've got to sit around for and hr to go 20miles how far down the road would I be in an HR also we all have 60 grand lying around and saying it cost less to charge at home but your still getting only half the range of a petrol one so image how long it would take to get from say Edinburgh to London you may as well go by horse

[@paulanderson79]

Once upon a time it was by horse. Progress hasn't stopped . . . . . .

[@benmccarthy3177]

My problem of electric cars is the production of the batteries. Saw one article saying the production of teslas batteries for a car is the equivalent of driving a petrol car for 8 years

[@benmccarthy3177]

@John W I know but the production of batteries is still fairly bad from what I know, but I stand to be proven wrong

[@TrapHut]

[@tufluxed3293]

Why tf does it have a grill. It’s bloody electric

[@chillout1109]

It's not a functional grille. It's just a solid piece with no holes in it (except the slit at the top of the grille that channels air up and above the car). That grill is just an ornamental design element to keep the car in line with the Jaguar family look.

[@tufluxed3293]

We are gong through he phase when the first motor cars came about. We just stuck an engine on the carriage and didn’t innovate design wise. Tesla are the beacon in terms of giving electric vehicles a new face and look although I must admit they could be doing better.

[@mkguitarproject]

There are tons of problems. Cost wise, EV's are very expensive both for the consumer and the government. Right now the governments provide tax incentives for electrics. But when all cars become electric, will it continue? The costs to build these cars are not going down as expected. Batteries still degrades much quicker than a combustion engine. Replacements cost the price of a new combustion car. Another thing is the impact on the energy matrix. Imagine the electric energy demand that a complete fleet conversion represents. What kind of offer is gonna meet that demand? Thermoelectrics? Nuclear power has been facing some serious resistance since Japan's catastrophe. What about the time it takes to charge these cars? It's ok for your daily commute to be recharged at home at night, but what about traveling long distances? Imagine the size of the cue in rechargable facilities of people waiting for hours just to get their batteries full. This decision to cease combustion engines production is just insane.

[@Neojhun]

"Batteries still degrades much quicker than a combustion engine. Replacements cost the price of a new combustion car. " Soo your average Petrol car does more than 300,000 Miles?

[@bordersw1239]

Bjorn Nyland and friends have just driven a Tesla 1700 miles in 24 hours.

[@Neojhun]

"decision to cease combustion engines production is just insane" No one is doing that, it is simply impossible to do it quickly. There is not enough BEV production capacity to replace the current sales rate of new cars. If we just ceased combustion engine there would be very little new vehicles available. It will take 30 years to gradually replace majority road worth cars to be non combustion. This is plenty of time to develop infrastructure and it not going to cause massive problems. Drama queens like you are inventing problems which do not happen in reality.

[@mechanicadam2011]

How is the average person going to afford an EV? EV insurance is very high at the moment due to the EV cars being expensive to repair. Hybrid is the way forward not 100% Electric.

[@hamishgaffaney5323]

Drive one of each, from experience hybrids are pretty crappie to drive, eV are pretty nice to drive

[@mechanicadam2011]

@@hamishgaffaney5323 what we are concerned about is range and cost of EV cars. Hybrids are decent enough to drive. What we want is a vehicle that is not too expensive to buy (problem is EV cars cost a lot more to produce than a petrol vehicle at the moment), cheaper to insurance and with a half descent range so we will only have to charge it 1 or 2 times a month. When this happens EV vehicles will be more common. I'm a petrol head anyway as I don't see electric vehicles catching on at the moment.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Just watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5mqaneEfZWtY9E

[@jamesroberts6423]

I'm not sure that EV insurance is very high. I pay £700 a year for a Model X. For comparison, I was paying £450 for my old Ford Galaxy.

[@mechanicadam2011]

@@jamesroberts6423 if your not sure then why comment? Do your research and your see that new EV are more expensive to insure then the equivalent petrol or diesel model.

[@themightydash1714]

Being preached about buying EVs by someone with a 6 litre hemi in their charger... Ironic.

[@filip3148]

Hideous car, smaller interior than model 3, completely recalled. not a real suv. range issues. Nice try, brits.