James Cameron talks The Terminator (1984) and Stan Winston | Forbidden Worlds Film Festival 2023

[@2teKnoA]

And 30 odd years later the effects in T2 still hold up. Tells you something about the quality and innovation back then.

[@trevorjensen7138]

funny how it still runs like a Swiss watch...

[@viktorzeman5202]

For how old the film is, yes, the effects are really good. For today's standards, nope. You can easily see that the damage on Arnold's face at the end of the film is just a layer on his actual face and not that the parts of his face are missing. Also, the exposed cyborg eye is not moving and is also sticking out too much as if it was actually on Arnold's normal eye. It is just visible way too much. Of course i wasn't noticing it when i was watching the film decades ago, but i do now. And don't get me wrong, i think it's one of the best films ever made, but when someone says that its effects still holds up till today, i just have to say nah, not really anymore. It was just very good for the time the film was made and it did hold up very long. But not anymore.

[@lasttime1372]

@@viktorzeman5202 still better than 99% of today's ugly cgi

[@Kpictures_NYC]

I agree 100%.

[@samik83]

@@viktorzeman5202 Compare Arnies face to the Dark fates T1000 (or whatever that model was) when he get damage to the face. It looks like shit, the CG is so obvious. Maybe they could make it look better, but they just don't put in the effort these days. The face prosthesis still works better. In T2 there are many CG shot that totally hold up today. Like when T-1000 head butts through the helicopter window and morphs on to the seat. It's flawless. T-1000 coning out of the floor, perfection. Of course theres are few shots that look janky by today standards, like T-1000 morphing from silver to normal when walking from the fire at the drainage system underpass but It's still quite the accomplishment with the tech at the time.

[@Kpictures_NYC]

The Terminator is such a masterpiece. I don’t think I could ever get tired of watching it.

[@sharingtherealworld]

"His name is James, James Cameron, The bravest pioneer. No budget too steep, no sea too deep, Who's That? It's him, James Cameron"

[@andrewflashchannelgibbs5384]

What a touching tribute.

[@scooter29]

T2 is still my favourite movie of all time.

[@beatboxbuynsanjaa]

My god. Jim almost got choked and almost dropped a tear. I mean he is "Iron Jim" but Stan was he's mentor and friend.

[@mr.eastcoast8369]

The Terminator hands down a masterpiece!

[@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch]

The inferior FX aside, I think I prefer it to T2; it's kind of a horror movie, really.

[@mistermatix8241]

I still think T1 stands tall. T2 was really good, but a bit bloated, T1 was lean and dark

[@bluecheese20401]

Still cant beleive that they got him to talk. It's honestly incredible both that James Cameron would do this and incredible that the Forbidden World Film Festival asked. Thoroughly enjoyed this year's festival. Its brilliant.

[@sebastian11346]

He did an interview (conversation) with some unknown woman director (Antoneta Alamat Kusijanović) recently. So he seems to be pretty open for staff like that.

[@azynkron]

Most directors love to talk about their movies as long as they were successful.

[@Hafsol65]

Jim has gotten more chill as he's gotten older.

[@guileniam]

It's for Stan thats why

[@m42037]

T1 will be realistic sooner than later

[@rsmith02]

That is such a great and tender intro by Cameron. Stan Winston's a legend.

[@isamuominae]

Jim is pure gold, glad to see him talking about Stan in 2023! Can't wait see the other Avatars.

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..This franchise is gonna be the last one Cameron will be working as a feature film director...But he has plans to continue directing & producing documentaries [ just as before ] after he retire... .

[@filmbuff2777]

Lovely stories. I was moved by what Stan Winston said on The Thing documentary. He came in to help Rob Bottin out as he was hospitalized due to his exhaustion, but he said he wanted no credit. He said it was Rob's Show. That was quite a class act.

[@Kpictures_NYC]

Great friendship.

[@_JellyWalker]

A legend sharing memories of a legend.

[@jerseyforhawks]

Judging strictly if I think someone would be fun to sit and share a beer with - James Cameron is a YES.

[@Hicks-g1m]

RIP Stan Winston You were the perfect person to compliment James Cameron his movies and work you will be forever remembered for your incredible contributions and visions

[@jasonl1942]

I have two lifesize endoskeletons and aliens in my living room, and four lifesize iron man statues in my theatre room. A ligesize velociraptor bust and two predator busts. Every day I marvel in the magic that stan brought to life and I'm thankful I can own these perfect representations of his skill.

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..Wow. .that's great!...Where did you collect them from?

[@jasonl1942]

@A.Netizen.Since.2010 there's a place called popcultcha, they're who I get 95% of my stuff from.

[@lewisner]

@@jasonl1942 I was at the premiere of T2 and the souvenir magazine had a competition to win the endoskeleton arm from the movie.

[@mistermatix8241]

You lucky bugger!!!

[@entennstudio]

Stan Winston has been my inspiration, hero, and someone to aspire to be when I was growing up in Hungary in the 90s. His studio is responsible for creating some my all time favourite creatures and characters, and in my teens I went to the cinema strictly to watch the films that he worked on. I cried when he passed. Yes, he was/is that important to me and somewhere inside me I still didn’t get over the fact that I will never be able to meet him and shake his hand. This beautiful little video by James Cameron was so incredibly touching, honest, and insightful. Thank you for sharing it, surely this will be something I will be coming back to again and again.

[@SuchetB]

Love Jim Cameron and Stan Winston - Their work together on ALIENS, THE TERMINATOR and T2 are some of the biggest inspirations for me and other filmmakers. The duo created brilliant cinematic characters that popped off the screen and added to the amazing screen adventures. Creating fun and great drama. Bravo.

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..Are you into filmmaking?

[@SuchetB]

@@A.Netizen.Since.2010 yes indeed - it’s a childhood passion

[@ericdavidwallace]

I need to find the next Stan I can hire to work on my films. Stan was simply the best in the business. And so cool.

[@quietside3734]

Stan is a legend. Everybody in the FX industry who has a love for it begins their education with the teachings of Harryhausen and Winston.

[@sebastian11346]

Great speech from Mr. Cameron!

[@nelsonminator]

Their teamwork will always make special effects look amazing even after all those years. My admiration to them and their team!

[@CBright7831]

It's hard to believe Stan has been gone for 15 years now. 2008 was a pretty tough year for celebrity deaths (Charlton Heston, Paul Newman, Heath Ledger, and Roy Scheider.)

[@rrss7212]

sadly every year seems to be tough when it comes to all the loss of all these people, all these talents, and the further we go the worse it'd get...

[@jameswilliams-zr8co]

RIP stan.. alien queen, t rex jurassic park, pumpkin head, predator, terminator, T2

[@XfiveTactical]

Thank you James for the nice words. When I read "Stan Winston" in an opening credits, it was like a quality sigel for good effects for me.

[@party4keeps28]

Like his work or not, Cameron is the hardest working director in the business and Winston's work ethic matched his, so it's no wonder their collaborations are so memorable.

[@athens_1psvr31]

The Stan that I always looked up to. My older sister met him at her job while he did a signing at Toys R Us NYC. She got me two posters and two figures signed from his Realm Of The Claw creation. Even having no knowledge of the creation they are still some of my favorite items.👍🏾

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..Lucky you ! 👍🏼💙

[@athens_1psvr31]

Being born in 79 in Downstate NY, I didn’t have access to media materials except for paper to show my artist talent and things around to show my creativity. I always studied movies and wanted to be involved with them. I still see things, figure out how they’re done, and know there are ways and ideas to improve elements. Being an idea guy and many other abilities have led to showing, but not using to the potential.

[@horseytown]

I love the story of Winston’s team not having the close-up shot of the light in the Terminator’s eye fading out after Sarah Connor crushed in in the machine press, and them throwing together something with some spray painted junk a red LED light and blowing cigarette smoke.

[@Sherdz2002]

Thank you, Jim, and Stan (rip) for making The Terminator, it made my childhood memories more gratifying. Also Thank you for making Aliens and Terminator 2.

[@johnboko7110]

Salvation was the last film he worked on, very sad, Still to this day his makeup, animatronic work still magnificent and even for it's time, R.I.P Stan and thanks Cameron and others for keeping his legacy alive.

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..I totally echo with your thoughts on this... . 👍🏼

[@Olagfigh]

And from the practical effects part Salvation is a masterpiece. Every Terminator, from T-600 to T-800 looks great in Salvation

[@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch]

'Piranha II: The Spawning' was your first movie as director, Jim 😉

[@tronam]

The story on that film is bizarre though. He had no creative input on it to begin with, just a director for hire, and was fired after just 2 weeks. Financiers wanted an American director's name on the credits (for marketing I guess?), but the Italian producer wanted to direct it himself and went out of his way to sabotage JC at every turn. It's unknown how much of James' footage even made it into the final cut because when the producer took over it's suspected that he either cut out or reshot most of it.

[@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch]

@tronam It's the first movie actors took direction from him, however much of his footage was ultimately used.

[@tronam]

@@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch Well, if we're going to be truly pedantic about it even that's not entirely true since he did 2nd unit directing while working at Roger Corman's studio and then there was his short film Xenogenesis before that. But, when it comes to his first full length feature film where he had full creative control from beginning to end, it was clearly Terminator, which is why everyone considers it his true first film.

[@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch]

@@tronam You know I meant as the main man. Yeah, he dabbled in 2nd Unit beforehand.

[@Vultoor]

Really lovely vid & message

[@AVTR]

How can one man be so based?

[@Critic_Chris90210]

@ AVTR: Unlike alot of his fan sheep, i see through his BS. And i bet he cant deliver another Terminator film that lives up to the first two films.

[@Critic_Chris90210]

Well with Hollywood messed up like it is, Cameron not out there himself. I'll hold on to my More original ideas till then. Unlike Cameron whom took what someone else has done before and put's his own spin on it.

[@party4keeps28]

@@Critic_Chris90210 Good luck with that.

[@SparkZ1420]

​@christopherlahart184 yep this old man lost all his magic and became another corporate d-bag

[@Critic_Chris90210]

@@SparkZ1420 Yup. Exactly, a hypocrite.

[@kylewichner9623]

Im named after kyle reese off of terminator this was a beautiful video by james cameron it breaks my heart i wish i could have met stan winston i never knew he worked on so many other films i grew up as kid! I would love to meet james cameron think of the endless worlds we could dream of!

[@nicholasjanke3476]

There should be a Terminator comic con event with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Micheal Biehn, Linda Hamilton, Lance Henrikson, James Cameroon. A Q and A session with the stars and the audience, about working on the film.

[@kylewichner9623]

@@nicholasjanke3476 yes i know they did years ago but i dont see arnold i have went yo comiccon to meet summer glau she played a good female terminator

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

​@@kylewichner9623 ..Wdym you were named after Kyle Rees?...Tell us the long story short... .

[@kylewichner9623]

@@A.Netizen.Since.2010 well my parents saw terminator 2 when it came out on Her birthday out my dad also told me that his grandma died in 1984 and also he loves the first terminator and when he says my name kyle it reminds him of his grandma that passed away.

[@elyasboussetta5900]

RIP Stan Winston... Thanks for the dreams you've build for us...

[@PpAirO5]

His first film, and he litteraly hit bullseye.

[@muddeer5383]

learn what “literally” actually mean

[@77sergiocon]

@@muddeer5383Thanks for saving me the comment lol

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

@PpAirO5 ..Cause James Cameron is a born genius. 🤘🏼

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

​@@77sergiocon ..Congrats for having a stupid username ! 💐😆

[@DankePlace]

His 1st film was Xenogenesis but that was a short. So let's address his next failure. Piranha II: The Spawning ^^ Absolute garbage.

[@chethasgb1962]

Rest in peace Stan Winston.

[@ravivarmaRDG]

Jim almost cried recalling stans death.. It shows their bond

[@kulaellison1379]

Good Day, Great interview to hear details that you did the design structures . Very good work ❤️🏆❤️

[@charlieduncan6418]

Stan is the man ❤️❤️❤️☮️👍thx Jim for the video ☮️❤️🙏

[@rotting_flesh3274]

CAN'T WAIT for Avatar 3! Already seen the first two in theaters and eat em up EVERY time I pop them in. Totally mind-blowing and awesome!

[@NebLleb]

Fascinating how a fever dream caused by a bad moviemaking experience (Piranha II) lead to James Cameron to make his first true film and one of the greatest sci-fi films of our time.

[@desantotony77]

Beautiful! James! Beautiful!❤😢👏👏👏👏👏

[@Helderhugo]

Thank you for The Terminator 1984

[@vnvlthm007]

Looking great

[@lorenhooke8986]

❤️😎👌👍 thanks jim.and Stan the man Winston 😎👌🌹 RIP Stan.....

[@lastdimestudios]

Forgetting Piranha 2. Saw Terminator in 1989, blow my 8 year old mind and was a fan of JC and movies from that day fourth!!

[@fredlandry6170]

James Cameron was working on the movie Phiranha 2 in Rome and was sick in bed and he had a dream about a cyborg coming out of fire and that’s where he got the idea for The Terminator.

[@sagelight7777]

Wonderful to listen to this

[@besperkharbithai9215]

Fox motocross jersey 😍👌

[@thermonuclearcollider4418]

1:06 This is the first time I hear this story being told like that. In the making of featurette on The Terminator DVD, they say they originally wanted Dick Smith and it was him who told them that Stan Winston would've been better suited for the project. On his side, Winston said that he originally came in a bit pompous because he had been recommended by Smith and so he as "the guy", but he immediately toned down the minute he got to see the designs. Now, we all know most content of that kind is PR from the studios and the industry as a whole (on the same featurette, they fail to acknowledge Donald G. Jackson, the director of "Hell Comes To Frogtown", as the cinematographer who shot a lot of the pick-up footage Cameron personally paid for because the studio didn't want to), and according to some people (*cough*Steve Johnson*cough*) Winston was a primadonna himself, but what strikes me is the "why should I work on your cheap movie?" bit: by that point, Winston was still an up-and-coming FX man. He had done a bunch of stuff, but it was mostly low-budget flicks and was often simply outsourced work from movies other people were making, like "Friday the 13th part 3" and "The Thing" (he did the long-necked dog-creature in the kennel because Rob Bottin and his people were overworked). I am not saying Mr. Cameron is lying (this might very well be the true version of the story: after 40 years, there's no need to "soften the blow"), but it's pretty remarkable that this is a very new account on their legendary first meeting.

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

Jim’s in his home green screen still wearing his pjs

[@railbart]

Just beautiful 😍

[@JB-vv9ow]

Stan was the Man.

[@kar102030]

His name is Jaaames Cameron, the bravest pioneer....! Legend :D

[@TimeAxisMedia]

Cool that he knew Rob Bottin.

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..This self-made man did a lot of stuff by himself...Designing animatronic figures for his sci-fi movie characters or designing a fully functional submersible & descending in it 36,000ft down to the Challenger Deep located in Mariana Trench all alone...A true-blue living inspiration to many!....I just ask him two Q's: 1. Are you interested exploring the space & planets by yourself after you've dived into the deepest known point on earth? 2. If you were given the chance to make Jurassic Park instead, how would you've brought those dinosaurs back on celluloid?..Would've they been any different than Spielberg's?

[@DankePlace]

Lol you are clueless. Ron Allum was the one who designed and manufactured the sub, you make out like James does everything himself, with no help what so ever. James isn't an engineer, far from. As for his animatronics, again you take away other people's hard work and rever James as some sort of untouchable god.

[@kayzee3595]

@@DankePlaceHe is an engineer. 🤦🏻‍♂️ And he did design his sub with his team. 😂

[@DankePlace]

@@kayzee3595 no he's not an engineer, he has no degree, his team? You mean the team of engineers he paid?

[@knownpleasures]

No terminator without Stan Winston

[@DanielDimov358]

To this day the T-800 endo isone of the most iconic sci-fi design for me. And the reason for that is because it's just as realistic as it's sci-fi.

[@mistermatix8241]

We NEED a 4k UltraHD Bluray, with a James Cameron/Arnold Schwarzenegger/Michael Biehn/Linda Hamilton/Bess Motta/Lance Henriksen/Brian Thompson commentary and a feature length documentary, BTS materials, almost akin to an Arrow Video release. Better than the scraps from the dvd release we got on the last blu release. Even though I love the effects, a branching version with redone effects would be awesome too (as it's been done well by KZbinRS with Blender, I'm sure Lightstorm, Digital Domain, and ILM can manage it!) I can't believe James Cameron hasn't done a commentary, The Terminator was put into the American Film Archives, preserved for all time ffs. A technically improved version of this absolute classic would be so deserved, properly redone endoskeleton effects, future war sequence, but not overdone to destroy the grungey tone of the story or look. Definitely not "George Lucased". I'd also LOVE a book like The Terminator Vault, but covering all the films from The Terminator to T:DF, SCC series, Dark Horse comics, Robocop VS Terminator, absolutely definitive with input from everyone involved, that would be epic. I'd definitely buy it. Jim's tribute to Stan is heartwarming, honest and lovely.

[@mike9512]

Do I dare dream...could we get ANOTHER Terminator 3?????

[@AgentSmith2K]

“James Cameron to direct a true sequel to Terminator 2” That’s all I want to see. Skynet, not Legion

[@beautyneytiri]

also, you keep saying that people have to see these movies in theater while it's a horrible experience in a theater. theaters refuse to play movies with a normal audio level, actions scenes are waaay too loud. for that reason alone i will never go to a theater again.

[@TimeAxisMedia]

Did he mean Starbeast perhaps? Starman was in 84.

[@theKriis12]

"James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is... James Cameron."

[@mctapoutos7426]

Terminator was first ? Not Piranha 3 or something? Was that co directed

[@DJBURAN]

why does he always use Motocross T-shirts?

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..That shouldn't be YOUR concern spongehead... .

[@_JellyWalker]

Because they look cool.

[@DankePlace]

It's the only sponsorship he can get.

[@samforde4665]

I am wondering 💭 is that the same Fox shirt he wore 16 years ago or a new one 🧐 lol

[@henryhill6637]

JAMES CAN WE PLEASE GET TERMINATOR IN 4K PYSICAL MEDIA AND REDO TERMINATOR 2 on 4k please!!!!!!!

[@TCM215]

The effects in iron man are still amazing.

[@Simon_Fridh]

Still his best film.

[@RobertK1993]

Nice James get Disney to release AVATAR 3 in 2024

[@davidchang5862]

He did mention that AI would come with a big bang on a global scale and sure it happened. What a prophet !

[@Joe_Hill_030]

Piranha Part Two was his first movie

[@tronam]

Barely. When a director for hire gets fired after 2 weeks does it even qualify?

[@frankkay625]

Cameron was at his best pre-Titanic. Terminator, Aliens, and T2 I will take any day I’ve the bloated Titanic and Avatar movies. As Orson Welles said “Absence of limitations is the enemy of creativity.”

[@kayzee3595]

You guys just literally fell into some kind of anti James Cameron propaganda. 😂

[@thecoolj45221]

Why do you think Titanic is such a bad movie

[@paulsmith9192]

Post production. Then why is avatar 3 coming,December 2024 & not this,December? I know post takes time,but,not a year

[@alancats]

I love James C., but, isn't "Piranha 2: The Spawning," technically his directorial debut? Or, I guess because the production of that movie was difficult, "The Terminator" was the first film where he had full creative control.

[@tronam]

It barely counts though because it wasn't even his movie to begin with and he was fired after just 2 weeks. The Italian producer didn't want him on the project in the first place and kept trying to sabotage his work, but there was this strange request by the financiers wanting an American director credit (maybe for marketing?). It's unknown how much footage in the released film was even shot by JC because when the producer took over the speculation is that he either cut out or reshot most of it.

[@KR-P]

Next terminator film(s) should have humans accept AI knowingly in general before they take over.” Similar to Genesis but include AI rights and even humans “loving” robots.

[@shinjan-w5o]

i dont believe that story with stan winston, that was a written script made for this video, it didnt happen in real life.

[@tronam]

What kind of nonsense are you on about?

[@shinjan-w5o]

@@tronam Just a gut feeling

[@dynamicdave2647]

Best director all time? Makes top 5 for sure, just dont know if he is best

[@cainorev-j4r]

WE WANT NETEYAM BACK WE WANT NETEYAM BACK WE WANT NETEYAM BACK WE WANT NETEYAM BACK WE WANT NETEYAM BACK WE WANT NETEYAM BACK WE WANT NETEYAM BACK

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..Why did you stop?..Just go on with that. .if you haven't damaged your virtual keypad already... .

[@DIGITALDREAMSSUBLIMATIONTIPS]

I think Terminator story is way more interesting and involving than Avatar or anything else , request you to focus more on it ,probably directing or making another version of Terminator movie based on your vision and on your style of story telling .Yet to see your style of non stop ,relentless action & direction as evident in T1 , an out and out edge of seat thriller,with excellent ending ( the tension keeps building up & up !! 👏

[@kayzee3595]

If can’t comprehend why Avatar is the best big movie on screen, you literally do not have vision. I feel sorry for you 😢😏

[@scottbrown2352]

Does this man ride motocross or does he just like fox racing 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@sebastian11346]

Cant wait for Avatar 3. But i would like to see more complex story and characters than Avatar and Avatar 2.

[@sebastian11346]

@@sidekick4 Yes they are.

[@cwinowich]

or not more complex but just better

[@sebastian11346]

@@cwinowich The sories were good. But now i need something more complex.

[@KilliK69]

Avatar 3 is gonna have a more complex story. there are some interesting script leaks, which Cameron accidentally showed in one of his recent videos. Also Avatar 2 and Avatar 3 are two parts of a single story. So Avatar 2 was more of a prologue for Avatar 3, that is why the story was left hanging in its finale.

[@sebastian11346]

@@KilliK69 I hope so.

[@kailee87]

you should ask him why he ruined the franchise by himself in Dark Shit

[@anavilla7134]

THE BEST FILM OF CAMERON IS TITANIC....

[@BRIANOCONNOR2003]

And sadly that was the last good movie he directed

[@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch]

Titanic's a great achievement, no question, but his best movie...? Hmm.

[@jtyearsley]

Tried finishing this video, but I have a really bad case of testosterone poisoning...I better go lay down...

[@tronam]

He has more testosterone than 10 other directors combined, which is probably why most of Hollywood's actors these days would buckle under the pressure and never work with him.

[@erikmenendez7491]

I wonder if he was against testosterone back in 1984?

[@curtisnewton895]

so james cameron never changes clothing

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

..People with no depths in them always discuss about unnecessary stuff & they're happy that way aaall their lives ! 🙄

[@DankePlace]

Ocean Gate, Wash day tomorrow? Nothing clean, right?

[@beautyneytiri]

post production huh ? so that's why it'll come out at the end of 2025 ??? i'm telling you, you will kill this franchise if you don't let go of your film making obsessions. like spending so much time on making the hand strapping scene in the way of water... to make it look ultra realistic while that scene only takes one second or even less. no one cares about scenes like that. and also spider grabbing Jakes arm and pulling quaritch out of the water for example... yes those are impressive things, i have now idea how that was pulled off but you don't need it to make a great seguel. overall the first avatar was way more beautiful and way more impressive. there is no need what so ever to wait so long for sequels.

[@tronam]

Actually, that hand strapping scene was live action footage! Pretty wild huh? It sucks having to wait so long, but VFX artists aren't cattle. They need time to do it right. Lots of movies got delayed (the pandemic didn't help) and others are now getting delayed for all sorts of reasons, like the actor/writing strikes. Mission Impossible 8 just got pushed to 2025 too along with Dune 2 until next year. 😕

[@JoeBlogging]

Yeah u know more than the most successful director ever right!...lol..😂😂.. stfu..

[@Michael-it6gb]

Is Cameron drunk in this one? He seems a bit woozy, or maybe just old.

[@Rogge73]

So much money, but just one sweater... sad

[@Critic_Chris90210]

Nope James, Your first official film in the industry with your name was a film Piranha 2 the spawning. Lol he wants people to forget that film though knowing how bad it was and cannot have it on his resume,lol. Cameron loves himself you can tell and likes think he doesnt love money and he's a expert on everything.

[@tronam]

You mean the movie he was hired to direct and then got fired after 2 weeks, after which the Italian producer took over and directed himself? Do you honestly consider that his first actual film? If you really want to get anal retentive then you could go even further back, way before Piranha 2, with his first short film Xenogenesis in the late 70s, or when he was director of visual effects on Escape From New York, or 2nd unit director on Battle Beyond The Stars. The reason why he considers Terminator to be HIS first film is because he wrote, designed, storyboarded, and directed it with full creative control from beginning to end. This should be obvious to any reasonably minded person.

[@johan9428]

James Cameron killed Terminator. He was the writer and producer of Dark Fate. He is the one who suggested killing John Connor right at the start to replace him with a Mexican girl. He admitted Dark Fate was made as a feminist movie. It will be the same all over again if he makes another Terminator movie: writing it as a vector for WOKE propaganda and giving the legwork of directing it to another third-rate WOKE director while he is busy making the sequels of his glorified cartoons Avatar. Seriously, James Carmeron's talent as a moviemaker sank along with the RMS Titanic in his Titanic movie, the last good movie he made.

[@cw3le]

In his defense, he said himself that for him the story ended at T2, which is why he never bothered to return to the franchise. This Dark Fate looks more like a peer pressure from the fan base for him to return to the franchise. So he did, but in a way where he will both earn good money and to make those people stop pressuring him to return to the franchise (because after Dark Fate they surely will stop).

[@jkorshak]

Gee. Terminator, female lead. Aliens, strong female lead with a strong Latina supporting actress. T2, strong female supporting actress. The Abyss, strong female supporting actress. True Lies, strong female co-star. Titanic, strong female lead. It's almost if the "woke vector" was in play before butthurt culture warriors had a convenient catchall word to hide their latent bigotries instead of just being honest and outright saying strong female and minority characters in their cinema entertainment annoys them.🙄

[@nicholasjanke3476]

Well I think the Terminator series should be put to rest. I think the series has run its course.

[@nicholasjanke3476]

I mean T3, T5, T6 just rehash the same stuff that was a novelty in T1 and 2. T5 even goes as far as having 80 percent of the film showing actual scenes from T1! I mean we know that Sarah Connner will give birth to mankind's savior already and that a Terminator is put to get them! So give us a,new plot already!

[@nicholasjanke3476]

Killing John Conner at the start was the dumbest, laziest, kindergarten writer excuse ever! Right down there with John Conner becoming a part terminator in T5! Next we'll get The Terminator Meets I Love Lucy

[@wazza33racer]

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[@MagicAl5F4781]

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[@surroundrive]

Keep the CGI. I'll take practical any day. The best 80's films were defined by Matte paintings. CGI was supposed to be a story telling tool: not the story. CGI will never replace the set pieces in films like Gladiator.

[@FutureRetrofare]

Should've worked with john jandis so he could've did the helicopter crash scene

[@prophetsnake]

Oh yeah, Terminator. That thing he stole from Harlan Ellison, along with those other things he stole from Harlan Ellison and Ted Sturgeon.

[@samokazem2211]

Harlan made a living suing everyone who ever made a sci-fi movie. Honestly, if not for Terminator I would never even know the guy existed.

[@prophetsnake]

@@samokazem2211 No, he did not. And your statement says more about your ignorance than it does about Harlan Ellison.

[@samokazem2211]

He sued AOL cause someone quoted bits of his "works" over usenet.

[@prophetsnake]

@@samokazem2211 And he won, so what. You got cameron spunk all over your face there, fanboi.

[@A.Netizen.Since.2010]

​@@prophetsnake ..The idea of creating 'Terminator' came to Cameron's mind from a dream/nightmare he had while in a sleep..He dreamt of a 'chrome endo-skeleton figure' coming out of a fire & chasing him...He made some rough sketches of that figure on a paper & then kept developing its details later on over a couple of weeks...Then he showed those sketches to Winston & shared his ideas of making a sci-fi action thriller film with this futuristic cyborg character in the main.....Do some study & research on his films & also try watching his interviews if possible. .they're free on YT...Don't live like a spongehead all your life !

[@rickytoddbotelho9555]

Hi Jimmy. ' Get out of the water!!'😜💦💧💧💧💧💧🚣