Jannik Sinner’s Next Gen Slingshot Forehand Explained

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@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
Sinner’s Next Gen Two-Handed Backhand 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2fGlGl6iLuGfMUsi=cHBMsM_EOzO2MiuI
@lucaknippel2366
@lucaknippel2366 4 ай бұрын
My forehand also looks like a slingshot, only instead of slinging the ball over the net I am slinging it over the fence
@Riverrattie87
@Riverrattie87 4 ай бұрын
This is so relatable LOLL
@ebadd3468
@ebadd3468 4 ай бұрын
Yes! I not alone
@anubhavmahapatra2955
@anubhavmahapatra2955 4 ай бұрын
I can’t relate due to being 9 utr. But lmao nice one tho😂
@fearhand
@fearhand 4 ай бұрын
My man
@fearhand
@fearhand 4 ай бұрын
@@anubhavmahapatra2955and you wouldn’t win two games off a UTR 11 so sit down bruh
@michaelmoreskine9677
@michaelmoreskine9677 4 ай бұрын
Incredibly lucid and comprehensive analysis. Very easy to follow your reasoning and presentation. Most interesting.
@stevenmorales3745
@stevenmorales3745 2 ай бұрын
Extremely useful slowmo footage. There's a double pump on an upward plane...plus the topspin...clear as day. Can't wait to get on the court to get that going!
@rfaninshanghai1846
@rfaninshanghai1846 4 ай бұрын
I have been practicing for a while and summarized about four types of forehands, with racket head speeds from slow to fast 1. WTA forehand: when preparing to swing, the racket head points to the back, and the racket face points to the side or the side-back 2. Djokovic-Gonzalez forehand: the racket head points to the back, and the racket face points to the ground(with a pad dog motion) 3. Modern forehand (Federer-Nadal forehand): the racket head points to the side, and the racket face points to the ground(with a pad dog motion) 4. Next-Gen forehand: the racket head points to the side, and the racket face points to the back. If you are a recreational player, it is recommended to learn 1 and 2. It is strongly recommended not to learn 4, as the stability is extremely poor.
@transamination
@transamination 4 ай бұрын
3 is also fine for recreational players.
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean by poor stability?
@leandronicolas8848
@leandronicolas8848 4 ай бұрын
Such a great video, great analysis. The clips you edit do a great job at showing what you're explaining. Now, the dream is one of these with you going over Pete Sampras' serve, breaking down into how he could hit kick/slice serves with the same ball trajectory and particularly how and why his second serve was so good (I've read that even his flat serve had tremendous amount of spin, even compared to his contemporaries). Although I can understand how that probably won't help much recreational players since the technique is so advanced, it's still very entertaining to hear you talk about it.
@Yannakamura09
@Yannakamura09 Ай бұрын
Thank you for all the lessons, your analisys are the best! Keep it up
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis Ай бұрын
Appreciate you
@Lucian86
@Lucian86 4 ай бұрын
It's my forehand more or less. What you pointed at the end is spot on. It's a long swing and requires a lot of speed and good timing. Highly inconsistent for me and I don't trust my forehand still. When I'm feeling well though, it's very satisfying...easy power and great topspin
@matiaserp
@matiaserp 4 ай бұрын
This reminds me of Patrick M's tips on loose wrist, "pretend you are throwing the racket" approach for wippier forehand.
@jungl3ist
@jungl3ist 4 ай бұрын
Just dont. Forget him. He sells snakeoil.
@vestelth7024
@vestelth7024 4 ай бұрын
Great video with exellent explanantion and samples. I think the racquet itself (and its specs) may also impact the players technique
@eagerlyg.1982
@eagerlyg.1982 4 ай бұрын
What a fantastic analysis thanks😍
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@wkrp10splayer19
@wkrp10splayer19 3 ай бұрын
this is your best video. noice job there racer
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@danielgrosmaire6175
@danielgrosmaire6175 Ай бұрын
Sinner does not rotate his racquet head backwards nowadays...If you were to check frame by frame, you'll see the tip of his racquet hardly moves. It's more like the hand his behind the racquet head and then overtakes the head. It reduces the effort to generate speed of the racket head before contact. While he was moving the entire racquet younger. He moves his hand and only pulls on the grip. This halfs the weight to accelerate and creates a much higher angular rotation of the racket tip to maximise energy transferred to the ball (E=1/2mV2) at the least amount of energy delivered. Previously, players were looping the entire racquet like Bjorg, to generate ball speed/rotation, or will drastically shorten their move like McEnroe to favour economy and accuracy. Sinner simply combines the 2. The large hand/grip path arming and then pulling by the racket and the minimal racket head movement in the 3D space, before the 90deg (or much more like Kirgyos!) tip pointing to the rear to sideways at contact. The more angular correction the better whipping effect. I'm guessing those students failing to mimick the latest form of forehand are indeed whether trying to rotate their racket backwards at the last moment (they'll be late to contact) or can't loosen their wrist enough to only pull on the grip without trying to manage the racket tip. Maybe try to whip horizontally to generate a woosh sound with the tip to feel it...?
@JA-SKI
@JA-SKI Ай бұрын
100% yes!
@JA-SKI
@JA-SKI Ай бұрын
6:09 that part about whipy lag is nat true, there is no longer distance of head racket. He "flip" the racket and the head of the racket stays almost the same place ;)
@stevenmckelvey4210
@stevenmckelvey4210 4 ай бұрын
Nice job! Love your mind sir 🤝
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@fearhand
@fearhand 4 ай бұрын
Nick if you had to pick one forehand to have for life: Sinner or Alcaraz. Aka which one would you teach to a junior. Have them try both?
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
It comes down to what’s more natural for a player. Both are great. Alcaraz technique, however, far less complex
@fearhand
@fearhand 4 ай бұрын
@@IntuitiveTennis Thanks Nick.
@angelatanurdzic7508
@angelatanurdzic7508 4 ай бұрын
Great explanation, thank you so much. 👍
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
🙏
@milanvincic9668
@milanvincic9668 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Nikola for an amazing technical analysis🫶. Nobody does it better than you🥇🏆
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate your support Milan 🙏
@tennis47
@tennis47 4 ай бұрын
Great insights!
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@twenty2143
@twenty2143 4 ай бұрын
Apologies if I've missed smething. How does sinner's uncoiling/clearing of left arm differ from that of the modern forehand. I remember you saying in the modern forehand ouncoiling/clearing left arm should begin during racket drop. How is sinner's timing different?
@AFenderson
@AFenderson 4 ай бұрын
I think dominant shoulder in front is a byproduct of internal shoulder adduction
@genin69
@genin69 Ай бұрын
was just curious, there are so many amazing slowmo footage available on sinners forehand with great clarity, was it a rights issue that these were the only ones you could get or use? especially around 2:40 mark
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis Ай бұрын
Yes
@CB-mr1ci
@CB-mr1ci 4 ай бұрын
I like to copy his take back sometimes. It gives crazy spin but it’s tough on the wrist.
@e.b.9178
@e.b.9178 26 күн бұрын
I imagine Sinner is watching this video saying “I have no idea of what you are talking about”.
@586seven
@586seven 4 ай бұрын
This forehand is all about wrist flexibility. You have to cover the ball very quickly with the wrist or there won't be enough spin to keep the ball in. It helps to use a thin grip on the racquet to replicate this .
@Mogirl21
@Mogirl21 4 ай бұрын
It's not about wrist flexibility. It's about wrist stability.
@alsonyang2991
@alsonyang2991 4 ай бұрын
great video
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@stevenmorales3745
@stevenmorales3745 4 ай бұрын
Cool video!
@synhet84
@synhet84 4 ай бұрын
SPIN ON THAT THING !
@mikanunx
@mikanunx 4 ай бұрын
When I try to do this, I always hit with the frame and the ball goes into orbit
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
Don’t do it 😭
@themrstroke
@themrstroke 4 ай бұрын
I would say his slingshot technique is similar to Jack Sock and Kyrgios.
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
💯
@deathbombs
@deathbombs 4 ай бұрын
I think theyre quite different- Kygios uses a lot of wrist, Sinner entire body
@themrstroke
@themrstroke 3 ай бұрын
​@deathbombs I am not so sure about that. I think if you freeze frame Nick' fh at contact, you may see, just like Sinner, his wrist is layed back/extended.
@mib910
@mib910 4 ай бұрын
Isn’t that movement hurting the wrist long term?
@JeremyClarksonGrandTourTopGear
@JeremyClarksonGrandTourTopGear 4 ай бұрын
😎👍
@kingandy867
@kingandy867 8 күн бұрын
Forgetting the key part the hip is playing in the next gen. The hip sets off the movement, the arm and wrist follows. All about kinetics improvement compared to modern.
@andrewlilico2218
@andrewlilico2218 4 ай бұрын
The thing I find most interesting about Sinner's forehand is that it has no distinct drop phase - as we can see clearly here:kzbin.info7F-EQvbUAz8?si=jR6upbmTwB2q-K3t That is distinct from a player such as Alcaraz who does have a separate drop phase, as we can clearly see here:kzbin.infowZBQ6_xSfGg?si=4_sUTx1XNyeXduXU
@ToiletTennis
@ToiletTennis 4 ай бұрын
Step 1: become noodle
@DileepreddySobhaKrishna
@DileepreddySobhaKrishna 4 ай бұрын
And may be the slingshot style has led him to set his string tension to 60lbs
@rsh8057
@rsh8057 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy the breakdown but for myself will keep a simple forehand.
@theev9
@theev9 8 күн бұрын
Loose❌️ Loosey goosey✅️
@gomriria2197
@gomriria2197 4 ай бұрын
next gen does not mean always better. it may be a regression
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten 2 ай бұрын
In this case I don't think it is a regression, the pace and spin on his ball combined with his consistency is incredible.
@CentaurusRelax314
@CentaurusRelax314 Ай бұрын
Nikola-just sent you a message via your contact form. I'm not able to click on your site to get more information/pricing on the Video Analysis. Help?
@bigrobsydney
@bigrobsydney 4 ай бұрын
Nick, your own imitation of the sinner forehand at 9:08 was just too rigid. Let go of the wrist, buddy!
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten 2 ай бұрын
Yeah he's not that good at copying other people's swings that are not close to the way he hits the ball.
@boscoyu5593
@boscoyu5593 4 ай бұрын
In simple terms: "Don't try this at home.....😂🤣😂🤣"
@gracesonfernandes6008
@gracesonfernandes6008 4 ай бұрын
Where is Anna now
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
She’s back kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5iwmYZ8bKeboLcsi=apiKjtZLyBoAzNpr
@lszujo
@lszujo 4 ай бұрын
I don't think it's a great technique to teach....
@hughgeiger9353
@hughgeiger9353 4 ай бұрын
I think it is a great technique to teach!
@parker.ple.12
@parker.ple.12 2 ай бұрын
How is it not a great technique to teach when he has the best forehand on tour? It is also next gen so that means that is what most of the new players will be doing anyways.
@parker.ple.12
@parker.ple.12 2 ай бұрын
@@hughgeiger9353that’s what I’m saying
@lszujo
@lszujo 2 ай бұрын
@@parker.ple.12 10 years ago none of these guys pass the round of 16 at the US Open....maybe quarter final,but that's about it.
@parker.ple.12
@parker.ple.12 2 ай бұрын
@@lszujo well look what’s going on now. We have a 2 time grand slam champ using this technique
@stibekey
@stibekey 3 ай бұрын
I am bit sure, if copying from a pro is the best way to make our technique better.
@user-mb3mf2og9k
@user-mb3mf2og9k 2 ай бұрын
ugly forehand, that is what matters.
@parker.ple.12
@parker.ple.12 2 ай бұрын
That is literally the opposite of what everyone says. They always say who cares if it’s ugly, if it works it works and in this case that is 100% true because he has the best forehand on tour. At least according to you because I personally think it’s not an ugly forehand at all.
@pencilcheck
@pencilcheck 4 ай бұрын
I would say that his forehand is very traditional, a lot of players like Agassi has this forehand.
@JameSongMaker
@JameSongMaker 4 ай бұрын
Where’s the similarity?
@themrstroke
@themrstroke 4 ай бұрын
I is very similar to Jack Sock it seems. Sock had that same preparation and slingshot effect. Kyrgios has this type technique too it seems.
@mattrock2491
@mattrock2491 4 ай бұрын
the forehand is nothing like Agassi's. Look at the 2 slow motion videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/equZhqOtjtp3eqcfeature=shared&t=115 and kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGKbh3WKgK6IqNEfeature=shared&t=3. Agassi's racket rises well over head during backswing , the strings never face the backfence and it looks like a more rounded movement. The contact point well in front of the body is maybe the only commonality I see. But still both are incredible ball strikers. At the moment my favourite forehand is from Jan-Lennard Struff . See kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6qoqZ2XnNanfKM
@pocketmatch8358
@pocketmatch8358 4 ай бұрын
lol just because one person has this technique doesn’t mean it’s what the next gen are using.
@IntuitiveTennis
@IntuitiveTennis 4 ай бұрын
It’s obviously not just one person kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5rNeJWMbbSGqqcsi=Q7_AKA9r_Bs3wGjb
@ktandgt
@ktandgt 4 ай бұрын
Thank you perfect breakdown! I constantly have to correct technique of some players that have been taught this. Like you said it's fine if you have great timing. But for the weekend warrior or junior who hardly plays It's too hard to get the timing down. Excellent breakdown!
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