1999 WTTC (45th) MS-QF: Jan-Ove WALDNER Vs KONG Linghui [Full Match/Chinese|720p]

[@adrame6258]

When you watch these videos of Waldner now, in the year 2020, you see why he was such a special talent...in any sport, someone like Waldner is a once-in-a-century type of athlete.

[@usermk99]

Once in a century is bit too much. Yep he was the legend. But after a few years another great ruled table tennis world and won more titles ever when the game actually have become far more competitive. BTW, this match video wasn't one sided too, 3-2 is a close match. I am also fan of Walnder but don't like exaggeration.

[@adrame6258]

@usermk99 You have to consider the broader context of Waldner's success. He comes from a country that had less than 10 million people at the peak of his success, and dominated a country with over a billion people, where TT is a national sport and millions of people play. Sure, other players have won more titles than Waldner, but those players are Chinese, which is expected. Statistically, Waldner is an anomaly in the world of table tennis and his success isn't defined only by the number of medals he's won. We will see more Ma Longs in the future, but another Waldner will not come anytime soon.

[@usermk99]

@@adrame6258 Well, I respect your analysis, however I have different point of view. I don't consider geographic situation as ultimate deciding factor. I consider passion & dedication above everything. Otherwise, think of it as China & India are together 3 billion people. Its nearly half of entire planet versus rest of 200 countries, so by same logic, these two countries should be at top of every sport in the world, every invention should be from these countries, etc. But that's not the case. More population has drawbacks of its own. If you see economies per capita, you will see western countries are far ahead from overly populated countries. That means more resources, earnings, opportunities per individual. Most of raw talent in overly populated countries is never even recognized, but same talent in western world will be recognized and polished. So if we have to compare an individual sportsman versus another individual sportsman then population of country isn't a huge factor. However yes if we are comparing country vs a country in a specific sport then ofcourse country with more available players has an advantage.

[@TheWitchesHat]

I was at this game with my dad :) One of my best memories from my childhood

[@tonysvahn5781]

Waldner was the 'ice-man' of ping-pong in resemblance with Borg in tennis, but even tougher at the moments where it all counts. Simply the world-wide ping-pong genious from Sweden! 👌👍

[@johnng5016]

The Chinese have always shown respect for Waldner as he managed to compete closely with everyone they’ve thrown at him over decades.

[@magnussturesson1722]

There was a standing ovation that lasted for minutes after the match. One of the very moments of modern table tennis!

[@paulanthony1689]

I miss the 21 point, 5 serve game. So much better than what we have now.

[@borisgraell]

why they, ittf, have done this?

[@paulanthony1689]

@@borisgraell They thought it would be better for TV, so you can have commercial breaks in between shorter games. And, I suppose, they thought shorter games would bring more intensity.. I personally don't like the 11 point games. A couple of nets and edges and that might be the game.

[@ryker1305]

16 points would have been acceptable. But 11 points is a little tight for a good game. First of all, 11 points game is more stressful than 16 or 21 points. Because there must not allow a mistake.

[@orionbeltVking]

Simple serve from Waldner..but all magic tric

[@orionbeltVking]

​@@borisgraellbecause no chance to beat china all 5 point in serve..😂

[@tomrailton9201]

One of the best matches I have seen brilliant Jan definitely the GOAT. Take care and stay safe mate. Tom.

[@philippelepage1609]

To shut down the 😀controversies, I propose a new acronym: GSOAT, Greatest Swedish Of All Times

[@seguso]

unbelievable how deadly waldner's forehand was

[@Pablo-vr8sv]

Maurizio Colucci il ping pong di una volta era più vero, più bello..e che tecnica che aveva Waldner, inimitabile. Se non mi sbaglio all'epoca giocava con le Donic Coppa ma non so il telaio...

[@jackyma4243]

Waldner has the top forehand structure in the world,using waist and leg to force instead of using arm and hand.Now many european players's forehand are awkward and not standard,I think ITTF should arrange good coachs in the west instead of making the ball bigger to prevent chinese player from taking the championship.

[@pham1020]

But his forehand is nothing compare to Ma Long and Fan Zhendong.

[@nicklasandersson5606]

And mcenroes forehand is nothing to compare with nadals,whats your point idiot?

[@nicklasandersson5606]

. And i would love to see waldner in this time,he would dominate even moore against these stupid robots,no player could change hes style to beat hes opponent like he did,thats why he old and fat could beat the shit out of the world 15 years after hes prime in 2004

[@benthekeeshond545]

Thanks for the upload! This video is much better than I expected. This is genuine TT. What spins did these 2 dudes produce? The 21-points match requires more planning and execution. This genuine TT game is a skill, execution, and mental toughness competition. I sincerely hope that TT can convert back to the original state.

[@gouravarora8736]

Waldner was a boss in the table Tennis arena

[@grindercap]

One of the few matches were you can clearly see nerves getting to Waldner! But he won anyway. Kong forced Waldner to play his weaknesses. Great match!

[@usermk99]

3-2 Close Match. At this level, skills of these sportsman are actually at nearly same level. That's why so intense & close matches. Often its the game of nerves in the last points.

[@nicklasandersson690]

Great by Waldner,he should have won this wttc to,according to himself the semi loss to Ma Lin is hes worst ever loss.

[@benthekeeshond545]

Even if Waldner got by Ma Lin, he had to face his nemesis, Liu Guoliang.

[@andreashacker181]

Habe keine Zweifel, dass diese beiden Spieler in Topform auch heute noch unter den Top 10 der Weltrangliste stehen würden.

[@benthekeeshond545]

Both Waldner and Kong competed in the 38mm and 40mm era. They were top players in both eras. Waldner was near the end of his career because he was much older than Kong.

[@janovewaldner1]

I've seen that Waldner, Kong Linghui and Zhang Jike they play like in a "calm" style, you don't see them like hiper-active, or jumping nervously during points, and yet they can be fast and lethal.

[@watson10132]

Kong had big trouble when using FH to receive Waldner's BH short serve. Why Kong not used his BH receive more?

[@dickn.ormous1064]

Because all players in those days had more touch with their fh.There was Persson who could push with the backhand even from the fh side,but he has much bigger wing span. Also receiving with the bh would make a player more vulnerable to shots to the body.

[@danfors1333]

1:30 Referee has same clothing style as famous ping pong fanatic Dwight Schrute.

[@Лев.Балашов]

Да Вальднер : уникальный талант❤❤❤

[@hotsorry71]

What a big game!!!

[@hangintree33]

the ever green tree

[@ЯнаКарманова-п1з]

Нравятся красивые движения Вальднера

[@swagmoney1652]

5:04 6:15 7:21 7:45 9:55 10:43 12:05 14:56 15:28 15:37 17:32 (continue) 21:04 21:30 22:46 (continue) 27:12 27:36 28:02 29:12 29:56 31:23 35:26 35:43 36:12 40:47 41:15 42:03

[@zackweston501]

Absolutely gorgeous

[@aghaaline7045]

The goat waldner

[@philippe8481]

Are You crazy 😂

[@gelu1605]

我是89年高一的时候才知道老瓦，当时是觉得我们班的有个同学特别像他

[@dubsbarry9963]

17:22 table tennis is a dangerous sport

[@洋瘾发]

当年的球员都是直来直往孔总是把球打到瓦的面前，

[@smilen75bekyarov93]

валднер е като близнак на мой познат от детството чийто по мальк брат ми беше и все оште е един двамать единствени прийатели които некога сьм имьл не знам точно комплимент ли напрьвих но карьй да тече ьхьхь

[@oskarvikstrom229]

That backhand 👌

[@StuffLeaver]

從攻擊次數來看，孔的確比較消極～

[@yuhaosu6899]

当年蔡解说分析的还是可以的，最近几年开始解说扯闲篇

[@djohnsonli3496]

當年孔令輝的球還是稍嫌保守_比起華德納而言,難怪最終還是輸球,而且球王的寶座也沒有坐很久...

[@dirkmaasch4971]

Noch bis 21.

[@gunningju6107]

Waldner is good//

[@NOCTUMSEMPRA]

He was more than just "good", lol.

[@SuburbAllied]

Look carefully at around 7:28. The ping pong ball never really (or it seems) touch the table as if Kong Linghui catched the ball in mid air. It could be due to the poor quality of the video, but I couldn't hear the sound from the ball hitting the table either.

[@kmawm6733]

Watch it speed 0.5

[@KAF128]

Think it bounced OK. Sound quality not great. And if he'd volleyed it with the ball still dropping (with that steep/closed bat angle) the ball would've gone straight into the net, I reckon!

[@kanalnamn]

I think perhaps it hit the white line in the corner, then sound can be different.

[@mrhdebater1607]

Waldner lost to Kong in the Olympics, then the Asians took over ever since.

[@alberthuang4868]

one year later the tables were turned!

[@wsy0503]

Classic

[@antekkrochmal6431]

Kto oglonda w 2022 bo mu trener kazal?

[@abdulhi2759]

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[@丙泉]

Kong 太消极，赢球了都不“饺子”“饺子诶”

[@howgrea]

@arne hammarlid

[@alberthuang4868]

the 38mm was supposed to be faster but Waldner and Kong looked slow compared to today's game

[@Philoreason]

Might not be a popular opinion, but I'm amazed how much TT has evolved in the last 20+ years. This is like local club level playing now...

[@desmond9423]

That’s a stupid comment

[@sebastianjosefsson3620]

You just don't know anything about the game.

[@alberthuang4868]

The game now is faster than during waldners heydays

[@ryoma1412]

well funnily enough waldner said a few years ago that he STILL beats half of the swedish pros but that his stamina is getting to him (Sure they are not on the absolute worlds elite) but man "local club level", really?

[@Lol-ej2uh]

What an absolute shitty opinion. Watch other Waldners matches like against Ma Wenge in 95 or against Ma Lin in 99. They played with much more feeling and they did not play slower back then

[@sinceremf1227]

笨蛋!! 一直没有留意自己的右手边空缺---一直让瓦德有机会攻去拿分!!!

[@yuewu9687]

发球接不好才是要命。

[@tnvol5331]

Waldners arm blocks the serve.

[@CalvinAytch]

At the time, there was no rule against doing so. In fact, most top players at this time did the same.

[@richardlampersberger9347]

Nachrichten

[@marsa74]

Yes, and even worse, he forces the opponent to play the set to 21 instead of 11. Magic.

[@KimJakab]

@@marsa74 : Ha ha, good one! I appreciate irony :)

[@nicklasandersson690]

Yes the best serve of all times,today some cheats with it and dont get ruled,Chuqin and Zhendong,they could as well allow the hidden serve again.

[@yimingsun4074]

jie shuo is annoying..

[@mikeanderson1660]

...ich versteh nur chinesisch...

[@aztainegen7283]

loss corona chinese