Japan's Fake Destroyer Hiding a Massive Secret

[@davidsquall351]

Love how they named the other ship Kaga....in the old days the Kaga was a battleship then a carrier too :)

[@j.pershing2197]

Yep. The abandoned hull of a battleship was converted.

[@BullGator-kd6ge]

@@stormforge68 I would hope so. Especially with the USS Enterprise CVN-80 on the way. That would be pure poetry

[@LoveKoSiVanessa]

@@BullGator-kd6ge Should've been Akagi then, Enterprise never fought Shinano in any battle (afaik), unlike Akagi, Kaga or the other CVs from 2nd and 5th division.

[@Menaceblue3]

​@@stormforge68 Is this a Kantai Collection reference?

[@dc-101]

​@@Menaceblue3since it involve cvn 80 enterprise i'd say its azur lane

[@jonathonhass4178]

It is time for Japan to do what is necessary to remove article 9 from their constitution. They have earned the right to reconstitute their complete armed forces with proper names. They’ve earned the right to no longer call their forces “self defense force”.

[@scottradien2337]

As long as they don’t do the Pearl harbor thing again we are cool.

[@boostjunkie2320]

​@@scottradien2337China and Russia are planning a Pearl Harbor attack right now.... Look at the activity in the Pacific, the Ukraine. Taiwan....

[@darkseidkidd2518]

I don’t think that’s a sleeping giant we should wake I don’t think y’all know how good Japan can fight and mfs always invited there own weapons

[@dwrolltide]

There’s no difference between a self defense force and a military anyway. Israel has a pretty good Air Force and army from what I heard

[@dwrolltide]

But ya, article 9 should be removed. If China doesn’t have one then Japanese shouldn’t either

[@jakerocinante1133]

Good for Japan, it’s been almost 80 years since the end of WW2 and Japan has become a solid trade partner and Ally in the region. If they want more offensive surface ships and submarines let them build them, I’d even be fine with them building a super carrier like the Ford class, more weight off our backs

[@SmokeAndKnifeBBQ72]

They don't have the shipyards to handle that construction. Maybe they could purchase a Ford class with modifications for them. Either that or fish or the old Essex class carrier designs and see if they can modify them for modern use

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

​@@SmokeAndKnifeBBQ72They do have the capacity to build them. They just don't have the experience. They have dry docking facilities in Japan already. They can handle our supercarriers when they are stationed there.

[@harveyhandbanana]

And in terms of a country with excellent ship building Japan is top notch and very capable.

[@erniemalloy1368]

it makes more sense for them to build these smaller carriers, it allows them to rapidly build more and for them to easily maintain and field them. Especially if one of those carriers can house about 20 f-35's or more that would be more then enough.@@justsoicanfingcomment5814

[@ls-420stoner6]

Agreed 💯

[@BulletRain100]

For those who don't understand the naming, Japan uses a similar naming convention to the United States. Izumo and Kaga are both Japanese provinces, and historically battleships were named after provinces. It's just like how American battleships were named after states. The previous class of helicopter destroyers, Hyuga and Ise, are also provinces and names of WWII battleships. The Japanese names for ships sound much more distinctive because of how foreign they are that we don't realize they use the same naming convention. If you've been to Japan and wonder why you haven't heard of these provinces is because Japan switch to a system of prefectures early in the Meiji Restoration but the Japanese Navy has always chosen to go with the classic names even to this day. A good example is the amphibious assault ship JS Osumi. It was a ship commissioned in 1998 that is named after a historic province that has never been used before for a ship name.

[@ArariaKAgelessTraveller]

THE MORE YOU KNOW

[@halfey]

I learned the Japanese warships names and types mostly from playing Azur Lane 😅

[@lawrenceallen8096]

US ships also named after cities, e.g. Indianapolis, and people: USS Ronald Reagan.

[@mavfin8720]

Much like the US started naming the boomers with state names, since there were no more battleships to build.

[@jessemorgan7007]

The previous Kaga was an aircraft carrier

[@williamcarey8529]

As far as I am concerned the Japanese have the right to do this. Japan is looking out for Japan!! The Chinese Navy has continued to grow and expand over the last two decades so Japan has the right to defend themselves in any way possible including the slightly more offensive weapons capability.

[@HarryWHill-GA]

Remember that the 11 US Nimitz and Ford class carriers displace more than the entire PLAN and does it by MORE than the displacement of the Chinese carriers. Our whole Navy is about 3.5 times the displacement of the PLAN.

[@williamcarey8529]

@@HarryWHill-GA I like your comment. But why should China be so concerned about the Japanese Naval buildup if we have such a large naval force in the Pacific?!!?

[@HarryWHill-GA]

@@williamcarey8529 Because the PRC is absolutely dependent on maritime trade for its economic existence. They import 2/3 of their oil and over 2/3 of that is a convenient 7,000NM away in the Persian Gulf which has to pass the Straits of Malacca. Anyone could park 3-5 destroyers in the Indian Ocean and stop China's oil and there is NOTHING China can do about it. There are at least seven countries, not counting the US, Japan, Britain, and France who don't like China and are capable of interdicting this oil supply. I can go on and on but you get the idea. China is dependent on trade for its existence and does not have a sufficiently capable Navy to ensure it continues.

[@williamcarey8529]

@@HarryWHill-GA Very interesting, I did not know that. That explains everything about that and Afghanistan. Iran had proposed building a pipeline through Afghanistan as a direct link into India who also imports all of it's oil.

[@HarryWHill-GA]

@@williamcarey8529 The intractable problem for the CCP is that there is no way to bring all of what they need under their control. But that's OK. The PRC is the fastest aging population in world history. You need a birthrate of 2.1 just to replace your population. Currently, it is standing a about 0.7 in major Chinese cities. It's not doing much better outside those cities. You can look for the PRC to begin de-industrializing in the next 30 years. The first you might hear of the collapse of the PRC is that stuff you ordered from China doesn't arrive.

[@hua15814]

Its not really covert...they have been pretty public about converting the Izumo to a light carrier for a while now. There was even a very public debate about whether it would violate the Japanese constitutional provision against offensive military capabilities.

[@thewaywardwind548]

Shouldn't be a problem. The best defense is a good offense. The US won't object and the US is the ONLY nation Japan needs concern itself with.

[@knoahbody69]

The U.S. put that clause in the Japanese Constitution. Notice the U.S. said nothing.

[@n4lra1]

​@@knoahbody69 The US position changed, in 1950, when the Korean conflict occurred. Japan realized that they needed to prepare for their own defense needs after the end of the US occupation. This is when they began rebuilding their defense industry and established Maritime, Ground and Air Self Defense Forces (the SDF) in 1954. I was stationed with the USAF in Japan from 1972 through 1975. Okinawa had just reverted from US to Japanese control when I got there and the US continued returning facility after facility, while reducing the personnel count, the entire time I was there. The Japanese government decided which facility returned became SDF and which would go to civilian use.

[@mwmentor]

Seems like a good idea to me for Japan to equip itself with modern naval vessels with multiple competencies in the face of an ever-increasing, and aggressively expanding neighbor in the form of China. If the Chinese don't like it, perhaps they should tone down their stance, but I don't think that's likely... 🤔

[@darkwillis416]

110%! Peace through strength. Xi has made it clear he wants Taiwan back in the fold in his reign. If Putin gets away with annexing Ukrsine, we can bet China will invade. Chinas military has been very cavalier during recent engagments with allied and UN forces conducting manouevers in the region. They are not afraid to get a bloody nose. The other countries in the region should be prepared as well.

[@j.pershing2197]

Agreed

[@kdrapertrucker]

I mean we let Germany have a military, why not Japan?

[@clinttaurus1999]

​@kdrapertrucker until recently the Japanese constitution didn't allow for offensive capability.

[@IAmTheAce5]

Of course the Chinese don’t like it. They probably think they have a Mandate of Heaven to be the height of civilization and the rest of us have to be their tributaries

[@Bob-qk2zg]

I'm the 1980s, my father worked in Foreign Military Sales for the US Army. Specifically, he sold the Hawk missile system. He had closed a deal with Japan and had to attend a drunken party his hosts threw to celebrate. A Japanese admiral got too drunk and said something; he was immediately ushered out of the room. My dad asked the interpreter what he said. "He was demanding that Japan build aircraft carriers rather than buying missiles." Well, that was then and this is now.

[@pedenmk]

I was in a hawk missle batallion in the early 80s. Long time ago.

[@SmokeAndKnifeBBQ72]

At the time, Japan considered it a bad thing. With China escalating things, they've reconsidered.

[@Bob-qk2zg]

@@SmokeAndKnifeBBQ72 Agreed.

[@arthurmosel808]

Like how the narrator and Chinese try to blame Japan for increased tensions while ignoring China building carriers first and laying claim to more and more area.😊

[@massivecumshot]

Missile takes carrier. Check, and mate.

[@tomawen5916]

The pioneers in naval carrier aviation were, respectively, Japan, the United States of America and Great Britain. The Japanese were leaders and their surprise attack at Pearl Harbor was a reflection of massing six carriers and 350 warplanes for a massive strike. Britain's adroit use of their small carriers in 1982 shows that the Japanese carriers of today can be very lethal against anything the Chinese can use.

[@su-57stealthfighter73]

And not just that ,Japanese Navy have a lot of experience when it comes to carrier tactics and operations and they got the US and Great Britain as allies who has experience on operating modern carriers ... While on the other hand china had no experience on operating carriers until they procure the Admiral Kutznetsov sister ship Varyag ...

[@arthurmosel808]

​@@su-57stealthfighter73Japan h 😊ad been an ally of Great Britain soon after the Meiji Restoration, having chosen the British model for their Navy. The ties were slow close that a Japanese Admiral was given command over one convoy in the Mediterranean that include not only Japanese destroyers, but British destroyers as well. Japan operated destroyers in the Mediterranean as part of the Allied forces in WWI. It was until the mid to late 20's and the results of the Wasington Nsval Treaty (which Japan felt was an insult) that this partnership broke.

[@MrNigzy23]

They even drive on the same side of the road as the Brits! The Americans really didn't want to sign the naval treaty until Britain abandoned its alliance with Japan. But the Anglo-Japanese ties were pretty damn tight, most probably because of Commodore Perry and his gunboats that were not very well received at all, otherwise we might have seen a more American/Japan relationship instead!@@arthurmosel808

[@HappyGM-R]

I know it’s a typo and a minor one but ‘United Sates if America’ sounds so stupid I’m laughing my guts out

[@arthurmosel808]

@@HappyGM-R You missed my typos though, the emoji that was in by accident and slow for so. I couldn't find the one you mentioned in any post.

[@Overneed-Belkan-Witch]

Japan still never failed to impress the world with its technological advancement

[@Paul-H-Wolfram6608]

Really ? You mean JAV ? 😂 🤣

[@weirdguy564]

Except the USA is the one who made the F-35B STOVL jet. Without that, Izumo and Kaga are just helicopter carriers.

[@Xer405]

​@@Paul-H-Wolfram6608 Uhh sure coomer

[@Wvk5zc]

they failed numerous times already. Where have you been? lol

[@seraphwithatank6535]

USA in the year 2000: Video games are just toys. Japan in the year 2000: We take all art forms very seriously, especially toys.

[@michaeleasterwood6558]

The deep friendship that exists between the US and Japan is good for the free world.

[@divaagarpavalakumar6714]

When they fuk u you will learn it is not the case😅😅😅😅

[@lairdsteele2817]

No it really isn’t

[@Racistobama]

@@lairdsteele2817 Care to explain? Oh, but of course you can't.

[@leihtory7423]

@@Racistobama Japan invading Iraq in 2003? Japan joined America in the illegal invasion of Iraq? Japan launching an Aircraft carrier in 2009. China responded with its own aircraft carrier in 2012. Chinas militarization is a direct response to Japan continued militarization post cold war.

[@BigRed-MWA]

Lol get brainwashed often do you?

[@revvingnoodle7192]

Now that Kaga exists in the fleet, what would happen if another carrier is launched and is named Akagi, and in the future we have the Enterprise cvn-80 sailing along side the modern day Kaga and Akagi in the pacific

[@BarryH1701]

That would be awesome seeing as they are all on the same side now.

[@centurian318]

Enterprise Vs Japan

[@littlejimmy7402]

I'll buy a poster.

[@legogenius1667]

That would be a very crazy event.....history runs full circle I guess

[@revvingnoodle7192]

@@legogenius1667 well as long as there isn't a new carrier named Akagi i think it'll be less likely

[@PaulJohnson-vn7eh]

Japan has every right to defend themselves.

[@markplott4820]

the Japanese IMPERIAL navy will NEVER exist Anymore.

[@retired-s5h]

​@@markplott4820sure buddy

[@markplott4820]

@@retired-s5h - no nukes for Japan and no REAL Army . still relies on USA to Defend Japan. though it's JETS ( under license) are pretty advanced.

[@Dept246]

Japan needs defend itself from who?

[@markplott4820]

@@Dept246 - CHYNA and No Korea.

[@timlinator]

As an American who has visited Japan several times I am happy to see this.

[@RetiredSailor60]

Liked my 4 month stay in Yokosuka Japan in 1986 while deployed on USS Cape Cod AD 43.

[@navyreviewer]

China's navy should be more worried about Japan's submarines.

[@chanedmund4252]

USA mindset be like: China have absolutely no ASW weapons or any submarine in the Pacific Ocean

[@navyreviewer]

@chanedmund4252 "blah blah Japan isn't a country, just a puppet of the US." There, I cut out the middle part for you.

[@chanedmund4252]

@@navyreviewer weird statement

[@No_Anime_No_Life.]

@@navyreviewer if Japan isn't puppet of the US, the US govt should never forcing Japanese govt to accepting US mass immigration policies and LGBT law

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

Good looking ship.

[@allanliversidge9827]

Amazing Japan can build such a good looking carrier (sic) compared to the RNs ridiculous looking nee carriers

[@markwoods1504]

I'm from England UK , I'm glad Japan is one of closest allies and even happier that they've been spending on there military especially Aircraft Carriers lets be clear these Helicopter Carrier are Aircraft Carriers in reality . With the US and UK both having bases in Japan this will only make Japan stronger against China and that's a good thing for the World.

[@dexlab7539]

US military just called UK military barely ‘second rate’. Maybe it’s time for Sunak to spend more too, but he won’t. Just lots of talk

[@delos2279]

@@dexlab7539 You're barking up the wrong tree there. The UK, which is one of the most militarily secure countries in the world, still puts over 2% GDP to the military (NATO obligation). It's some of the other European countries *cough* Germany, that need to step up.

[@Ironfangzu]

@@delos2279 If that's the case, why can't either of England's aircraft carriers even make it to the Pacific for an exercise? It seems that one or both of England's carriers are always in the shop, with major work needed. Like the U.S., England is militarily secure basically because of its location. It is separated from Russia by all of Western Europe, and on the other side of the ocean is America, its big brother. By itself, England is a shadow of the world power it used to be.

[@delos2279]

​@@Ironfangzu Why yes.. we realize the British empire isn't a thing anymore. That doesn't change the military spending relative to GDP, which is high for NATO countries. Should NATO as a whole increase military spending to counter Russian and Chinese imperialist threats? Yes, but the UK is already ahead on this and one of the few countries in the world with aircraft carriers, matching the same number as China. Regarding missions in the Indo-Pacific, there are already Royal Navy ships deployed there and they are planning to send a carrier group next year to Japan, so funny you mention it. But also the UK is located in the north-Atlantic so it's almost 3 times further than, for instance the US west coast. And of course that's not even counting the US islands as well as leased naval basis. For comparison, Chinese carriers and/or support ships can't even cross the pacific as UK ships sail 45-50,000km round trips. Or Russia's tugboat powered not-an-aircraft-carrier can barely move anywhere. So the UK is also ahead when it comes to aircraft carriers (Turkey and France have 1 each).

[@recker3168]

I don’t blame Japan especially with how China’s been acting lately.

[@truthhurts9241]

Strong, powerful friends are always welcome.

[@pac1fic055]

Well, they called one Kaga, so I don’t think they were being very sneaky at all. Akagi, Soryu and Hiryu are sure to follow.

[@อัศวินสิงหานาคร]

the "ryu" (dragon) turn into submarine now , hope to see "kaku" (crane) carrier in near future.

[@andyyang5234]

Japan had four flat-deck "helicopter destroyers" already, Hyuga, Ise, Izumo and Kaga. Of the four, Hyuga and Ise were previously WWII BBs, and Izumo was a pre-WWI armored cruiser. Which is to say, it doesn't seem like the Japanese are too attached to past CV names. In fact, Kaga is the odd one out of the CVs, as it was converted from a BB of the Tosa class, and therefore only one of two CVs to be named after Japanese provinces (the other of course being the Shinano, also a converted BB). So realistically the Kaga name doesn't imply its a CV at all.

[@alesh2275]

Soryu name is already taken by a submarine

[@pac1fic055]

@@alesh2275 a renaming ceremony is in order

[@ENGBriseB]

Nice especially for their F-35b Lightning jet's. And the helicopters they use, great looking boat.

[@Turf-yj9ei]

China: Here's my new aircraft carrier Japan: OK here's mine China: How provacative

[@WorldView-n6r]

彼らは新しい武器を見せびらかしてくるのに我々が自衛の武器を持つと被害者のような態度を取るんだ　サイコパスだよ

[@snowlee-ml7rr]

@@WorldView-n6r Are aircraft carriers considered self-defense weapons in Japan? Aren't they offensive weapons? Isn't China a victim of World War II? announcing new weapons, China is called showing off. China doesn't announce its weapons, and the US and Japan say China's military is not transparent. I find that the US and Japan are schizophrenic.

[@danielch6662]

Except Japans Hyugas were built BEFORE China's 001. And the Izumos was before 002. China has continued building, but Japan has stopped. There is nothing planned to follow the Izumos to gain fixed wing/STOBAR capability, or to build more of them. The Hyugas are relatively new. Only about 15 years old. No way the Diet is going to spring for more cash. Japan has hit their limit with 4 very small carriers. The problem with using the F-35s in STOL mode with no ski-jump is the limit on the load they can carry.

[@Lancista]

*_No matter how you call it and from with angle you look it this is an Aircraft Carrier!_*

[@gregwasserman2635]

True aircraft carriers, especially modern ones, do not carry heavy cannon. Some early carriers did carry heavy cannons, but they were removed and antiaircraft weapons installed in place of them. As for China, let me get this straight. They can build all the aircraft carriers they want, but Japan cannot build them. Got it! China's naval buildup is the reason Japan is doing what it is doing!

[@ADobbin1]

Its thucydides trap. You do something because someone else is a threat but your action in countering their threat is what is causing them to become a threat to you. China is caught way way deep in this trap.

[@Stellar001100]

Actually, the rule on Japan being prohibited in the construction of aircraft carriers expired around 2012-2013. They can build carriers if they so wish. But you don't just build a capital ship without a reason, and China's actions in the far east has given the Japanese government a reason.

[@su-57stealthfighter73]

Yes china now can build multiple carriers in just 3 yrs but I'm pretty sure they would have the same problem Japan experience in WW2 , lack of carrier based aircraft and carrier pilots makes the aircraft carrier useless ...

[@sarge4455]

Seems like a good reason for China to stay home and not start anything

[@greatBLT]

They can just bully Vietnam and the Philippines in their own waters instead

[@wolfgangkranek376]

You mean like the US?

[@LordBuckhouse]

@@wolfgangkranek376 As if the USA is threatening the countries of East and Southeast Asia. They’re not. Most of those countries VERY MUCH want the USA there to help protect them from the aggressive hoodlum trash in Beijing. See Japan, see Taiwan, see South Korea, see the Philippines,see Australia, see Vietnam. And you can add India to that list too.

[@ObeyNoLies]

Yeah, that'll be the day.

[@notchit3542]

You bought that lie 😄str8 outta U.S. play book.

[@michaelpfister1283]

It is fitting that the first fixed-wing aircraft to operate from a Japanese naval vessel were piloted by Marines. It is time we welcome the Japanese Navy fully back into service as our allies and friends.

[@Ryan_Christopher]

Japan’s SDF is under their Ministry of Transportation I think. They don’t have independent war ministries.

[@No_Anime_No_Life.]

@@Ryan_Christopher why you need to changing name of Ministry of Defence to "Transportation"? are you just trying be funny here?

[@hobbyfarmer62]

Hey if it makes China unhappy, nervous, scared, uncomfortable etc... then I say it is a good thing all the way around. Why China thinks other countries will sit back and not react to their constant provocations and bad behaviors is totally insane. We and our allies need to be constantly ready to push back against the aggressive acts by both China and Russia.

[@irimeyilmaz956]

pretty sure Japan was the first to field a carrier post coldwar. this was at the tail end of the Iraq War in 2009+ the iraq war which japan participated in. Sending JSDF to Iraq ending their pacifist doctrine. which really scared China. Why 2010 onwards China went on a building spree. 2013 China rushed to build its first carrier.

[@Dept246]

Why would China be nervous about Japan, a country with only 11.55% of its population age 14 years or younger. China’s age 14 or younger population is 17.5%

[@lesliepaulkovacs6442]

Now think of how the F-35s can control a bunch of Stealth Drones launched from the Izumo.

[@Is_This_Really_Necessary]

Especially if those drones are made from cardboard and are carrying explosives strong enough to take out aircraft.

[@ironboy3245]

​@@Is_This_Really_Necessary I doubt that cardboard drones are going to be anything other than loitering munitions. It simply doesn't have enough structural integrity to survive high speeds

[@mill2712]

​@@ironboy3245 I agree. The drones used would probably be something closer to the Kratos/Valkarie/ -Bayraktar 2- Kizilelma drones.

[@ironboy3245]

@@mill2712 def not the bayraktar drones, too slow for proper air combat. remember, ideally the drones should be able to do multiple missions, including defending the carrier in a pinch. IDK about the others

[@mill2712]

@ironboy3245 If you're talking about the Bayraktar 1, I definitely see your point but I was mentioning the -Bayraktar 2- class, which is close to a subsonic unmanned fighter. Edit: My mistake, it's actually the Kizilelma I was thinking of.

[@HarryWHill-GA]

Japan is resurrecting the Kido Butai? Outstanding. Given the difficulty the PLAN has in operating fixed wing aircraft from the Liaoning and Shandong carriers, this is a significant threat to them.

[@krazipynaple]

Along with the Kido Butai the PLA Navy may face Kantai Kessen in the near future.

[@namyun2743]

The Izumo isn't much better being a VSTOL carrier, but the F-35 is arguably a much better plane than anything carrier-borne the Chinese are fielding currently.

[@chaikaomoua1169]

Just make a ship that can launch and recover fighters and call it an air defense ship. It's purpose is to defend Japan's air from fighters by deploying it's own fighters.

[@h-e-acc]

The Imperial Navy Kidō Butai, also known as the Mobile Force or the Carrier Strike Task Force, was a combined carrier battle group comprising most of the aircraft carriers and carrier air groups of the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) during the first eight months of the Pacific War. It played a crucial role in Japan's early victories in the Pacific, including the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941. The Kidō Butai was formed in April 1941 and consisted of six aircraft carriers, two battleships, two heavy cruisers, nine destroyers, eight oil tankers, and twenty-three submarines. The carriers were the most powerful warships in the world at the time, and their combined airpower was unmatched by any other navy.

[@RobertDean-x5e]

As a US. Citizen, I’m glad Japan is an ally. funny thing how the United States ( and our ally France) is the only country in the world that has nuclear power aircraft carriers. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@amadeusamwater]

They shouldn't need catapults for VTOL planes. North Korea may a bigger worry, if China attacks Taiwan, North Korea may attack south as well. Japan may have to get involved with that.

[@Golden-dog88]

yea but China is faking friendship with russia in an attempt to steal lands like putin is trying to

[@kdrapertrucker]

If they operate F-35B, they might want to fit a ski jump so they can launch aircraft at higher weights.

[@SmokeAndKnifeBBQ72]

​@@kdrapertruckerthey're using VTOL variable F-35s. Don't need a ski jump.

[@cpt_bill366]

Vertical take-off burns a lot more fuel and limits payload & range for any plane. The F-35 is no exception.

[@sgt.kitsune4615]

South can handle north and US have bases in south so japan can focus on defending its land and water and also help taiwan with US

[@51cmark]

China don’t like Japan and the US Navy having aircraft carriers? Tough shit.

[@JuanChaca-dc7lz]

Chine would like an enemy weaker than them not a nation who can defend itself.

[@snowlee-ml7rr]

@@JuanChaca-dc7lz USA too

[@glennstiller7616]

So China is accusing Japan of being aggressive in the region? That's hilarious 🤣

[@notchit3542]

China & Japan r not aggressive towards each other. It's the U.S. media's propaganda that's pushing for war. It's the oldest play book in U.S. history. Divide & conquer, instead of working for peace & unite.

[@Tamachii12]

The irony of someone being a bully on almost any country in the south asia sea.

[@WorldView-n6r]

@@Tamachii12日本は人種解放の為に南アジア地域に行った。中国が目指すのは世界覇権だ

[@snowlee-ml7rr]

@@Tamachii12 yes, INDIA!

[@danielch6662]

You're only projecting. China is only worried about the US. The they aren't really concerned about anybody else. Japan is serving the role of bogeymen for Chinese politicians in exactly the same way that American politicians use China. They aren't losing sleep over it. Just a tool to rile up the masses and promote nationalism.

[@unbreakable7633]

Japan has an excellent navy. Whatever China doesn't like, I like.

[@harveyhandbanana]

I haven't watched this yet but damn I need to say it that is a slick looking ship, very nice to look at

[@aurorajones8481]

10:21 THE KAGA!!?? YES! I dont have to tell you all that was a WWII Carrier. I really do love seeing this.

[@I.TChannel497]

JAPAN is one of the greatest AIRCRAFT builders in the world!

[@maddslothii2532]

Japan: "China, fuck around and find out."

[@ylstorage7085]

assuming [1] China will be a dictatorship forever [2] and USA's "flawed democracy" will not sink any further to become a dictatorship. The Europeans are increasingly united what, the East Asians will just keep getting divided further?

[@EvaExplores-x2x]

Modern japan really cannot afford to trade blow with China, the tiny island will be spent in a matter of hours.

[@danielch6662]

The JSDF has 2 Izumos and 2 Hyugas. China has 3 type 075s. Despite being classed as an LHD, they are each larger than the Japanese heli-carriers. In fact, one 075 is larger than two Hyugas added together. And China is now building type 076s, which despite still being an LHD, is as large as the CDG, France's nuclear power carrier.

[@EvaExplores-x2x]

@@danielch6662 China is building 076 with magnetic catapult. Soon they will have super carriers and amphibs that can both launch true air superiority jets vs Japan’s F35B which is the least capable of the 5th gen and in meager numbers

[@Mischa-qj9ue]

It’s about time! Tenno Heika Banzai!!

[@gaius_enceladus]

Great to see this - it's a beautiful ship too! I fully support Japan being a full and valued member of Western military alliances! Time for China to learn that the Pacific is *not* just their own "pond", for them to play in and no-one else. Japan was able to learn that lesson in WWII - time for China to learn it too.

[@mikexhotmail]

Chinese people learned a lot from the hands of the Japanese around WWII

[@Kaypohrd-Wahlior]

Smaller nations need this ship to protect themselves👍

[@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263]

Japan has come full circle. China and NK made a grave mistake to threaten Japan with a nuke. The one and only country to ever feel the horror of a nuke. Did you think they would take that lying down? Pfft not in this universe, and I am glad there are American planes on board. I am a Gen X GSXR bro. I love Japan.

[@snarckys3063]

China literally never threatened to use its nukes, what are you on about???

[@ag1382]

At least they called it a surface ship, not a submersible. ha

[@jhill4874]

The Chinese government is so hypocritic. "Japan, you cannot do this! It is against your constitution!" "But it's our constitution, so respectfully, bugger off!"

[@Harte74]

Besides, I'm not sure, that the Chinese casualties during WW2 is that far from how many Chinese people, that has died of starvation and brutal ruling since 1949. Millions died of starvation, when the beloved Mao declared war on all small birds, resulting in famine for some years, since insects no longer had any natural enemies.

[@malcolmscrivener8750]

Tut Tut ! Such indelicate language . Poofters may be reading this !

[@AwesomeNinja1027]

I can't wait to hear Japan reviving the Kido Butai.

[@johnkeim3836]

Good on Japan. They want to protect what they have built since WW2.

[@DavidFalconer-t1z]

It’s been reported that Japan is planning to build 4 of Those ships.i think the second one is on sea trails right now.

[@livethefuture2492]

I would love to see a robust Japanese military that has the capability to operate side by side with the US to deter China in this new Cold war. Japan needs to be prepared as they will be the Frontline in any conflict in East Asia.

[@eine52]

Yep, considering the fact that Japan is surrounded by warmongers and thugs equipped with nukes. What a nightmare.

[@weirdguy564]

China, "Japan shouldn't have carriers. They're a threat to us. But it is OK for us to already have 3 bigger carriers."

[@danielbeck2739]

I remember seeing one of these in Guam before my time in the navy was up. Never got to go onboard, but definitely got see it up close and personal while it was there for the week it was there.

[@Master-AGN]

The longest running dispute? China only started claiming the Senkaku Islands after oil was found in the 1970s.

[@allmylifebassheadz]

COLUMBIA SC IN HERE AND WE LOVE THE VIDEO'S FROM YOUR CHANNEL. KEEP ON KEEPIN ON

[@billybop90]

Very nice presentation and explanation of the new carriers Japan is putting out. Wonder if there will ever be a Yamato or Musashi in the build up. Beautiful ships........

[@peterrollinson-lorimer]

This was VERY interesting.

[@hillogical]

China: I don't like this! Japan: I Don't Remember Asking You a GD Thing

[@j-aaxch9658]

CarDiv 1 Kaga...She's back

[@OLThomas-y9j]

Thank GOD we still have Japan as a true friend to America !

[@trex860]

That’s a beautiful ship.

[@user-rl3iv2jk9q]

Thank you for your presentation , it is informative, and lends perspective .

[@RyanGribble]

Good thing Japan is on our side.

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

Yeah well they were on side in wwi as well...

[@someutubchannel69]

80 years later... It seems like an alternative universe, right?

[@jamesspringer-rj3iq]

Unlike the Chinese aircraft carriers, the Japanese carriers will actually work like they should.

[@backpackingtony1779]

Or Russian aircraft carriers.

[@danielch6662]

@@backpackingtony1779 The Russian carriers are fine. They just have been skimping too much on the maintenance due to budgetary constraints.

[@rlstang7276]

Excelent 💪🏼💪🏼

[@nicoletteshaw8431]

Your commentary and choice of words,and simplicity of explaining are excellent,i do not think anyone would disagree with my words..... So much better viewing your channel and learning many unknowns than tuning into the junkyard of TV programs of national broadcasting......

[@yujiogi]

綺麗な船ですね。

[@jamesbohlman4297]

The future belongs to the VSTOL designs. This class of carrier, being roughly the same size as the Essex class, is beautiful with Mount Fuji in the background.

[@markplott4820]

Imagine "jets" with EM engines instead of Outdated combustion Engines. ALL Electric engines (EDM) are lighter & more Powerful, and are 100% Electric . only small 4 cylinder Turbo and keep batteries charged. best of all they can Supercruise w/o Afterburners.

[@jamesbohlman4297]

@@markplott4820 the fuel cell concept is out there, but huge amounts of energy has to be shrunk down into a small place. The problem of heat shielding and management is of a magnitude engineers have not dealt with.

[@markplott4820]

@@jamesbohlman4297 - FC planes wont make it , unless C-17 , C-5 cargo jets. FC not Viable for Fighters.

[@wrm3016]

It's a good thing China doesn't watch Dark Seas videos, or they might find out about Japan's new carrier/destroyer! 🤣 Aside from the humor, great video.

[@SpartanChief01]

Considering how China has shown itself to be a world class bully.... Japan has had experience running aircraft carriers ... the biggest fish in the pond just got a glimpse a barracuda is in the water

[@joharimohdsalleh457]

When Japan awake & roars !!!! China trembling & sweating😂😂😂😂

[@snowlee-ml7rr]

China is worried? Ridiculous! Japan has fought three wars with China in its two thousand years of history, and both were disastrous defeats. The most recent one was World War II, and Japan did not win. And during most of this time, China was Japan's suzerain. The one that United States is most worried about is the Japan. Once Japan has the ability to defend itself, the United States will have no reason to exist in East Asia.

[@nooddles12]

Akagi II, Kaga II, Soryu II, Hiryu II, Zuikaku II, Shinano II. Make it happen Japan!

[@boydmccollum692]

Little known historical fact - the reason the Japan Self Defense Forces was allowed in 1954 was that it was needed to combat Godzilla. Without it, Japan wouldn't exist today, maybe the entire world. We owe a debt of gratitude to that amazing island nation.

[@HarryWHill-GA]

Japan has created the largest copy machine in the world. They call it Godxerox.

[@recoil53]

Until we developed Mecha.

[@GaryArmstrongmacgh]

Silly person! GoGo Godzilla!

[@ASH9366]

Love the Narration Voice 🔥💯🔥

[@keithbusick6859]

You have got to admit having Japan as a staunch allies and friend is so much better than her. As a enemy did you hear that China ?

[@steverichardson6920]

At least the Japanese did not call it a floating hotel casino………now that would have been a stretch 😮

[@kakakiri2601]

Not gonna lie Japan actually could build supercarrier since they have large dry dock that can stationized the American carrier, and we have capabilities of heavy industry in ship sector, but yeah it just make more tension if we actually make them

[@eedobee]

I wouldn’t have clicked on this video if it didn’t say sneaky.

[@michaelfisher7170]

The time had to come for Japan's navy to enter into fully capable defensive and offensive capacities. China can protest as much as it likes, its own policy of claimjng the entire South China sea as its own just accelerated this. What did they think would happen?

[@leihtory7423]

pretty sure china building a navy and launching a carrier in 2012 was a direct response to Japan launching these aircraft carrier in 2009. also Japan's participation in the invasion of Iraq forgoing pacifism. what did you think would happen?

[@michaelfisher7170]

@@leihtory7423 so china's remarkable claim to the entirety of the South China sea and its claim to Taiwan had nothing to do with it? They only built carriers because Japan did? I think you should widen your focus a bit.

[@leihtory7423]

@@michaelfisher7170 china was not the first to build artificial military islands in the south china sea. you had vietnam & malaysia building artificial Military islands in philippine waters. in the 90s & 2000s & thats long before china decided to do the same. hell you even have south korea building an artificial military island in the yellow sea. hell you even have taiwan militarizing their island claim in the south china sea. Again In philippine waters. note Taiwan has that 11 dash line claim. Where Chinas 9 dash line claim comes from. And China uses their Coast Guard & Not the Chinese Navy in the South China sea disputes. And the most violent episode in the South China Sea in the past Decade. Comes from the Philippine Navy Gunning down Vietnamese & Taiwanese Fishermen.

[@leihtory7423]

@@michaelfisher7170 I have to check. Has it been 40 yrs since China fired even a gun at another country? When was that during their conflict with vietnam in 1980s cold war stuff? So no China is definitely not building a Navy to invade other countries. Cant say the same for Japan. Who is more than willing to participate in USAs military adventurism. Hell if China wanted to invade Taiwan. China would have invade those Taiwanese islets off Chinas coast. less the a kilometer from Chinas beaches. To me the whole China will invade Taiwan tomorrow. is a US narrative to Justify sanction on China. to defeat the Chinese economy. USA wants maintain no.1 stop.

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

​@@leihtory7423as a SE Asian. You are totally wrong.

[@mexicanboi9874]

it looks to me that china is getting spooked

[@Christmas-Cooter]

Absolutely done right.

[@mjf1036]

well done Japan. Unfortunately there are aggressive neighbors that are forcing Japan to increase their self defense capabilities. It is not Japan being the aggressor in the 21st century.

[@jameshanlon5689]

The Kido Butai has entered the Pacific theater of operation.

[@randywarren7101]

I'm glad that Japan is getting a first class defence because they can't rely on the U.S. to provide Navy task forces forever!

[@darkwillis416]

You do know of USFJ? There are almost 50k troops on mutiple bases in Japan since they surrendeted at the end of WW2.

[@patriotic8352]

​@@darkwillis416like they had on Iraq, and afganistan ?

[@darkwillis416]

@@patriotic8352 not quite. Google "United States Forces Japan". Iraq and Afghanistan dealt with insurgence from neighboring countries. US and Japan are now allies, unlike Iraq and Afghanistan.

[@patriotic8352]

@@darkwillis416 I'm saying that they had promised that they will erase terrorism from afganistan but they gave birth in Iraq

[@darkwillis416]

@@patriotic8352 WTF are you talking about? Afghanistan was about removing the Taliban from power and finding OBL after the 911 attacks. The Iraq invasion was unjustified and was about money and oil. Two unrelated conflicts.

[@SeanSoraghan]

Looks like the invincible class through deck crusiers

[@user-ez9en7vk2z]

China expresses "shock & concern". Love how the play victim....

[@CivisMilitarum]

Lol China still got PTSD 😂

[@ShaOrna]

This coming from a country with tons of human rights violations but is constantly agitating their neighbors. And the fact that Japan is debating this move themselves means their mature enough to handle it.

[@blabbergasted4380]

Smart strategy. Cost-effective & modern.

[@jodu626]

do what ya gotta do Japan. lines are being drawn 🇬🇧🇯🇵

[@ronveri2838]

Best looking destroyer ever

[@redstar8226]

Japanese are on a hole other level of building skills. That ship has the cleanest lines ever.

[@wolfgangkranek376]

Be it a Japanese carrier, one of the US or of any other nation. Carriers in today's world are sitting ducks, not much different then the large Battle cruisers during WW2 or even already during WW1. That's why the US keeps it's distance from the Iranian coast and from Yemen.

[@jamarplunkett3283]

@@wolfgangkranek376 yeah, I guess that’s why China is building aircraft carriers? This is such an idiotic comment, the U.S. carriers don’t go near these place because it’s an “AIRCRAFT CARRIER”. Your comment is the equivalent of saying that “snipers are obsolete because they stay away from the frontlines” when that’s not even the doctrine of snipers. Why would a carrier deliberately get close to its adversary, when it can strike from hundreds of kilometers away?

[@jimmysweat2200]

They laid the blueprint for Asia at the turn of the century. I'm a world leader in a developing country they would definitely be in my counsel with there leadership team on speed dial.

[@CallMeWB]

The Japanese certainly make beautiful warships

[@eiennofantasy]

funny how China is building its own carrier fleet but then gets spooked when Japan is building a few light carriers.

[@danielanthony8373]

It's time for Japan to build Super Carriers and an offensive capability

[@kakakiri2601]

Funnily enough they said izumo can't be an aircraft carrier because lack of catapult system or skijump but they very enthusiastic about f-35b

[@WorldView-n6r]

はい、私達は攻撃する為の兵器は持ちませんが自衛の為の武器は持ちます。😂

[@matthewlok3020]

The other ship of the Izumo class is called Kaga

[@anupshende1986]

I just can’t what quality of these Japanese ships must be !! Top class…