The Fastest Gaming Laptop in the World

[@JarrodsTech]

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[@estifanosbireda1892]

@JarrodsTech do you recommend buying laptops with the 13th and 14th gen intel cpus? There is a problem with the desktop version of these cpus and there has also been some reports on the "HX" version of these cpus. Have you noticed any instabilities with these laptops? I know the instabilities arise later in time but just curious.

[@73greycat43]

Hi just checking, did you review the model with the mini-led?

[@Prakash7045]

Please suggest do I go for dell g15 from the deals website?

[@a3per818]

I wonder how much of a difference a cooling pad would make *while* in water cooling mode

[@joederp7512]

Off the video topic above the Weeping world is Insomnium's best album

[@Kumoiwa]

Not offering an OLED or MiniLED screen in a 3000+ bucks laptop is criminal imo

[@ShuriShoto]

True

[@PomuLeafEveryday]

I only want OLED if it's a touchscreen. Otherwise the matte LCD is much easier on the eyes, less glare too. OLED always gets paired with glossy screens and I hate it.

[@elderman64]

​@@PomuLeafEveryday How is that an OLED issue lol, just manufacturers being not the smartest people

[@escapetherace1943]

OLED is a meme anyways, totally still not worth it

[@elderman64]

@@escapetherace1943 I assume this is what Apple users think like when they still use a 60hz crappy display

[@michaelwesten4624]

fun fact, if the cooler fan didn't have RBG on it, it wouldn't be able to cool as much as it does now. the flashy colours are integral to it's performance

[@EpicBunty]

The opposite actually lol

[@arkadiuszkawak6379]

woosh? ​@@EpicBunty

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

RGB = more FPS 😎😎🗿🗿

[@ShuriShoto]

RGB= Reasonable Gaming Boost

[@Spurdospaerde692]

The liquid is not distilled water, but actual clown puke.

[@Jasper-yz7vy]

Still waiting for Intel Core Ultra vs Ryzen AI 9 HX

[@mightymallet5474]

ryzen ai 9 hx is faster on single core, has a better integrated gpu, and is better at battery timing as well thanks to performance per watt being noticably higher

[@whitehavencpu6813]

X3D versions should win in gaming, atleast as long as the GPU isn't the bottleneck.

[@Kumoiwa]

@@whitehavencpu6813 Most gaming laptops are offered with top of the line CPUs and games only use a couple of cores anyways but laptop GPUs are very power constraint, so most of the time the bottleneck is the GPU

[@whitehavencpu6813]

@@Kumoiwa exactly.

[@Aditya-sj4ev]

@@mightymallet5474 ryzen is not beating lunar lake.

[@michaelwesten4624]

if it's so fast, how long does it take it to do a 100 m sprint?

[@kispista_]

About 60 decibels

[@michaelwesten4624]

@@kispista_ in how many rgbs per watt?

[@kispista_]

@@michaelwesten4624 It can be as fast as 374 RGBs/Watt

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

​@@michaelwesten4624 256 lumen per gigabyte

[@Jim-kk4ys]

​about 2 km each fps sir ​@@michaelwesten4624

[@shrey522]

We are expecting you to make a video on Intel HX series issues. Entire laptop community is worried right now.

[@shrey522]

1.5v Core VIDs are too high for desktops and this can degrade the CPU in the long run, can you imagine the power going into laptops. Your insights are much appreciated.

[@EldenKing18]

so far, laptops issues are almost non existent as they pump way less power than desktop, almost no reported issues compared to desktops, only from that 1 reddit post about a company having issues...but yeah not that big of a deal.

[@rrrajlive]

I have one too 😢

[@deepbludreams]

​@entropicking6007 the issue is present in the HX CPUs on laptops as far as I'm aware, while not severe as desktop applications, CPU degradation is occurring on these units, it's just that few laptops can wack their CPUs to 200+ watts like the Neo16 and Scar can, thus the delay in said issue occurs at a further out point. Server farms had 13th and 14th gen stuff fail all the way down at 30 watts, nothing in this generation is safe from the issue, at best it can be delayed.

[@TabalugaDragon]

@@EldenKing18 could be an issue with this specific laptop as liquid cooling here is comparable to desktops. I mean it pushes 200 watts in CPU-only loads, I'd call this worrisome.

[@gdsl77138]

Im confused between buying yoga pro 9i and legion 7i What do you think is better for me I'm an engineering student I have graphic designing and simulation tasks I also want to play games and watch movies and tv series The system should be able to play next gen titles like gta 6 (future proof gaming) Which one should I get. And with what gpu and cpu

[@Asimowild]

The on one the video definitely, legion is being smoked by any means by this new chassis

[@TechGuyBeau]

“More chonk, means more performance” Agreed…. (He says eyeing a full chocolate cake).

[@salzstange6341]

me with the Neo 16 from last year: "god damn it"

[@TipsyTaterTot]

This is why I don't watch this channel often lol

[@jlb4685]

Laptop life unfortunately. The best possible time to upgrade is at the start of a new GPU cycle.

[@salzstange6341]

@@jlb4685 I am still very happy with my neo 16e23 but seeing the upgrades in materials, application of watercooling to the CPU and the less wobbly screen… could have been last year already. Game performance seems almost the same tho. Btw. I have the 4080 not 4090

[@Asimowild]

Hey bro you can order new cooling system and diy to your e23. But will require knowledge and some work. Plus change the cable from water cooler to new one. You can grab the better screen from asus scar g16 and you are in the right side of the moon again

[@jrwagh333]

Did XMG get hold of some Legion chassis? 😂

[@bdtwothree]

That's what I'm thinking too but that's a plus for me since I'm a legion fan 😅. It looks good because of how minimalistic the design is. And also the back ports, damn I wish legion keep those back ports on their latest laptops. And the keyboard layout too, I'm so confused at first 😂.

[@ezrapierce1233]

Now I can't unsee it 😅

[@Asimowild]

Looks alike but totally different. I took apart both of them. I have 4090 version

[@mikeallensonntag]

Looks like they do have access to the fan manufacturer.

[@ShuriShoto]

How does Jarrod's heart afford this hinge test on a 3000 dollar plus laptop

[@TheIRSWillNeverCatchMe]

Prob the last thing he does

[@kiyoponnn]

come on man, not this low tier joke which is easily countered

[@xmg_gg]

Good joke, but let me reply in earnest: XMG laptops at Jarrod's Tech are always loan units that will be returned to us at some point. If Jarrod would break the hinges with such a simple test, we would *thank him* for finding an issue early in the production cycle. It's actually quite common for reviewers to spot last-minute firmware or driver issues. Hardware issues usually get sorted out way earlier, before any samples are shipped to press. So, no concerns, hinge away! // Tom

[@Enter-the-Meta]

@@xmg_ggI had pretty much no opinion on you guys over at XMG, however after seeing your/the company’s write up on the Intel stability issues, then seeing your positive and candid interactions in the comments, I’m thoroughly impressed. Keep up the good work!

[@Buntybill1]

I used the link to look at this laptop. It comes with 16gb ram and 4089 for $3,999. If you want 32gb ram and 4090 rtx it's over $5000

[@Z020852]

I guess your eyes and brain might not notice the performance, but your ears will.

[@Asimowild]

Especially of you get fast hynix ram and overclock it to at least 6000 (7000 is possible too)

[@AirGunWeb]

This looks like a nice upgrade for them. The styling has a lot of Lenovo vibes. I have the 12700H 3070TI Prometheus XVII Version, and it's still holding its own for anything I need to do. I like the move to all aluminum, as the plastic on mine is a little soft. I had to replace the bottom cover because some of it just crumbled after one or two entries to do some upgrades. At least Eluktronics had spare parts available, so that's good. Anyway, looks really nice. I'm glad to see them continue to push the water-cooled laptop options. Cheers Rick

[@castcuts-1]

The chassis design looks very legion inspired, maybe a bit too much. But the legion's are great, I love my 5 pro!

[@xmg_gg]

Thank you Jarrod for this extremely detailed and comprehensive review. It's nice to see how many performance records can be broken just by providing even better cooling to the CPU. Also, the additional airflow with active keyboard cooling helps a lot. The same concept is also available in this year's XMG EVO 15, XMG CORE 15 and XMG FUSION 15, as they all use the same new keyboard with separate cursor keys, 4-row numpad and subtle yet effective air intake. One small clarification (18:25): G-SYNC is also available when NVIDIA Advanced Optimus is enabled. NVIDIA is maintaining a whitelist of games that are allowed to automatically switch the laptop display to the dGPU upon launching the game. Also, regarding Linux support (21:30): TUXEDO is planning to launch this chassis under the name "TUXEDO Stellaris 16 Intel Gen6" in a few weeks, including liquid cooling and full Linux support - the profile switching button will work as well. Meanwhile, if anyone in the audience has *any questions about XMG NEO 16* or any other XMG product, *please reply directly to this comment!* Thank you for your feedback! // Tom

[@TabalugaDragon]

Agreed, Tom. Jarrod is one of the best laptop reviewers on KZbin. I wish there were more guys like him.

[@lexzander4518]

Any chance you know if you're planning on an 18" model soon? Almost perfect (to my admittedly amateur eyes) except for the 16" size. I'm hoping for an immersive power house and the external liquid cooler strikes me as genius.

[@xmg_gg]

@@lexzander4518 We can for sure say that there will not be any 18" in XMG NEO series, or any 18" with liquid cooling support any time soon. Not this year and not next year either. // Tom

[@Asimowild]

@@xmg_gg hi Tom, is the card reader exclisive to xmg? Mechrevo with same chassis doesn't have it

[@xmg_gg]

@@Asimowild It seems that Mechrevo has some exclusive chassis variants with various ports and features missing. // Tom

[@mojtaba_behnam]

Hello Why don't you mention whether the display is HDR or not in any of the reviews?! Is it doesn't matter?

[@Asimowild]

Forget hdr in displays less than 500 nit. You need miniled. Good news are that you can buy one from scar g16 and put here, 100% bolt on mod

[@mojtaba_behnam]

@Asimowild But, it is better to have HDR than not to have it even on 500 nits

[@Asimowild]

@@mojtaba_behnam true yet almost unnoticable

[@vik1ng313]

HDR with

[@mojtaba_behnam]

@vik1ng313 In some games like God of war 2018 By 500 nits its not bad honestly

[@RobloxianX]

All performance but no show. Honestly if this was just a slab for $2000 that’d be great so I can just give it an external monitor and keyboard

[@chayze3009]

I just noticed 3:38: 1.23cm touchpad length seems a bit... tiny 🙃

[@JarrodsTech]

oops

[@shrey522]

Is it safe to buy 14900HX? I have seen core VIDs going above 1.4v and 1.5v on i7 and i9's.

[@federicocatelli8785]

Looking for troubles.....get a Ryzen or Mac (if you are not into gaming)

[@Noname-iq1gz]

Why would you get an intel cpu? Go for amd

[@Kadoom1131]

Definitely no . That s why all flagships with 7945hx''s are out of stock .

[@Asimowild]

100% Safe if you disable turbo boost 3.0 (keep the 2.0) and undervolt. You will even get slight multicore boost :)

[@lharsay]

The 13900H should be a safe pick due to being based on the 6+8 core Raptor Lake H chip instead of the 8+16. Yes, the 8+16 core Raptor Lake HX chips are concerning, on the other hand they still operate at lower voltages compared to desktop which might prevent damage.

[@Peizxcv]

Guess the company saved itself. Some Chinese industry watchers expected the ODM to go down because their products have been falling behind Lenovo, ASUS, Red Magic but this design really caught up with the leaders

[@Asimowild]

They had 0 problems with market, they are growing fast.

[@swasho2939]

im still rocking my legion 5 pro 2021 with a 3070 ... looks like the laptop game has changed with intel taking over the laptop department (opposite of desktop now). do these 14900HX chips have issues like the 14900k desktop cpus are having right now?

[@Xpiti]

No

[@Asimowild]

Basically not, but bertter disavle turbo boost 3.0 (keep 2.0) and undervolt cpu a little. I bet will be safe for 10 years

[@Kinofinity]

All these RGB trend on most modern “gaming” pc components takes me back to the 2000’s and the Neon used in vehicles in Fast and the furious to need for speed unground 😂😅

[@Hisma01]

I will NEVER own another tong fang laptop again. The screen had horrible backlight bleed, the keyboard buttons would randomly start sticking and I had to replace the keyboard TWICE over a 2 year period. But the worst problem of all, the power connector came loose and was unable to charge! I literally had to just dump the laptop, it's sitting in my closet collecting dust rn (a eluktronics max 17 laptop w/ a 3070) because I simply got tired of constantly servicing it, and to fix the charging problem would require an entire motherboard replacement. I'm not anti-Chinese tech because I own a lenovo legion laptop and absolutely love it. But these tong fang generic chassis laptops have terrible build quality, despite the great specsheets.

[@Pomacanthidae]

honestly these kinds of laptops are more desktop replacements. you're supposed to use an external display, keyboard, and mouse with them and treat them as a mini pc with in built ups more than anything.

[@Asimowild]

Lol replacing charging socket is a job for any good solderer for 50 bucks.

[@Asimowild]

By the way this one is just totally new level. Older 17" are quite not durable and require being very caring to them, yes. But they were cheeap as hell

[@xmg_gg]

Can't comment here except that we never carried the chassis of your "MAX 17" (ID-P). We had samples but didn't go forward with them. The keyboard in this series was a unique SKU that wasn't used on any other models except "MAX 15" (ID-Y) which we didn't carry either. Keyboard damage may come with overheating - those chassis were very slim. Very slim models are especially prone to potential airflow issues when heatsinks clog up with dust. Loose power socket might be an after-effect of mechanical damage at some point. The power sockets are pretty much identical across all Uniwill/TongFang models, and we usually don't have many cases of them coming loose - neither within nor after warranty. On overage, they are more robust than USB-C charging ports. At any rate, please check with your system vendor if there are still any avenues of repair. For what its worth, the build quality of one particular product series (here: ID-Y and ID-P) may not apply identically to other series of the same ODM. // Tom

[@Kadoom1131]

Never gonna buy an Eluktronics laptop again . In 1,5 years i think i encountered every problem possible with this laptop. Also , i think it s impressive that Strix 17 with 7945HX and 4090 still leads the performance tests in almost every category while being much cheaper and much lighter and portable. You are one of the few channels that include that Strix 17 in the tests , a lot of sponsored videos don t put it in the benchmarks because of how well it performs and makes the 2024 flagships look silly .

[@Asimowild]

This chassis is just another universe man. 7945hx leads only in cyberpunk and only while 720p :D

[@Kadoom1131]

​@@Asimowild I have a good friend who s a technician and believe me , those Eluktronics laptops are made to break . Yeah , it leads only in cyberpunk and in the rest of the tests it s pretty close. There s actually a guy if you look it up who modded it and got a 27k timespy score . I would definitely go with the Strix 17 considering much lower price , huge potential and the fact that it s AMD based . As we all know , Intel got some serious problems right now . If i m buying a laptop i plan to use 100 % of the processor , i will not pay the laptop then disable turbo boost to avoid processor failure and use only 60% of laptop's power. If you disable turbo boost on this specific laptop you are gonna get under 60% of the scores Jarrod got in those benchmarks and tests.

[@StivensGameZone]

I put my legion pro 5i in box full with ice,overlock with lenovo vantage for 20% and get same performance 😁🤣

[@Asimowild]

Now i will do same with this machine and beat 35% more out of your record))

[@FoxxFire]

I commented on last year's video how it didn't make sense to liquid cool the gpu only and not the cpu when the 4090 is much more efficient and easier to cool than that Intel chip. I'm so glad to see the improvements made this year. It feels like we're getting closer. I couldn't buy this for the display alone. It really should have a better screen. When you're paying so much for a laptop and need to pay, say, an extra $300 for a significantly better display, it is so worth it since that will be less than 10 percent of the price of the machine but be the thing you look at all the time (unless you're connected external of course). I also am not thrilled about the keyboard and trackpad shifted to the left, but so many other laptops do this that I suppose it can be forgiven. But honestly, is anyone asking for a number pad in exchange for having to use the keyboard and trackpad off center and awkwardly for the device's lifespan? Are accountants or gamers/creators buying this thing?

[@Asimowild]

Get a scar 16 miniled and install, bolt on upgrade.

[@xmg_gg]

Thank you for your comment this year and last year. 🙂According to our last survey, about 50% of users expect a number pad on 16" laptops and up. Some of them even use number pad keys for gaming in certain games, especially in the MMORPG, RTS and Simulation genres. About the screen: we understand that there is certainly a certain appeal to OLED screens, they also come with some downsides. While glossy screens certainly enjoy a newfound popularity, the amount of customers that tolerate glossy reflections on a laptop still seem to be in the minority, at least in our core market of Germany. OLED screens also commonly have a PWM dimming frequency of only 60Hz which may cause eyestrain, although some more recent screens have increased this frequency to e.g. 960 Hz. To compare, our IPS screens have no PWM flickering at all, they use DC dimming. Anyway, we are keeping an eye on this issue and see if we can source OLED screens or Mini-LED screens with good specs for reasonable prices in the future. Until then, we are aiming to have the best balance in our IPS-type screens in terms of price, weight, brightness, response time and resolution. // Tom

[@FoxxFire]

@@xmg_gg Wow, what an awesome response! I do understand the importance of margins with electronics. Something that is costing you $10 more results in you having to price the computer an extra $40, for example, in order to remain profitable. And sourcing different displays to give customers an option, especially when you are not buying them in a huge quantity, is quite expensive. Also, gamers may not care much about color accuracy. However, if you were able to pull off a display with a higher color gamut, particularly close to 100 percent coverage of P3, it would be so much more appealing. (The last thing I'll mention is the ports - having a usb c port running at usb 3.2 gen 1 is not acceptable in a laptop of this price. If the usb a port runs at that speed, it would be unfortunate, but okay. But that usb c port really needs to be 10gb/s, at least.) Have a great night, Tom, and thanks again for your thoughtful response.

[@xmg_gg]

@@FoxxFire Good morning and thank you for your feedback! // Tom

[@TobiasHam]

I am a video editor, coder and gamer who hates glossy displays. IPS and numpad was a must for me. Also I really don't need more brightness as I feel most are already straining my eyes. Wanted a numpad so the razor dropped out. So I ordered this one 2 weeks ago.

[@parshangiahi4737]

Can we get a xmg core 15 (M24) review too?!

[@noshut]

I always leave a few drops behind when disconnecting and have to wipe up if you know what I mean

[@SlippstersVideos]

PCI E Gen 4? LOLL priced out of reality at $2699.00 justify that high price. nice laptop ....I will not be buying one. love your video reviews!

[@Asimowild]

Lol what is is you need pcie5 on a laptop😂😂😂 wash your brain out of marketing bro

[@knightlko]

Only complaint for Eluktronics version is it software. Problem setting fan curve for laptop/water cooler, its limited imo.

[@Asimowild]

Not any more.

[@knightlko]

@@Asimowild ? i checked their site they dont have an updated version.......is it for the 14gen intel only? ive got the 13gen you cant manually adjust the fan curve while using water cooling.....weird way to set up the software...

[@omegared9509]

Better avoid intel cpus, 13/14th gen 🙂

[@ericbagley3613]

Yeah, people seem to think it's over now and Intel fixed the problem. They didn't, and its not.

[@shrey522]

​@@ericbagley3613 true.. no one knows if this actually fixed the problem.

[@ericbagley3613]

@@OlaJohnReborn Or just buy Amd. I'm going to wait a year after Intel next gen stuff is out, then I'll start recommending if it's good performance wise and doesn't have issues.

[@shrey522]

@@OlaJohnReborn totally agree. 5i pro and 7 pro pulls 150w+ watts. AC and DC lines are also very high for the laptops. Don't know what intel is smoking right now.

[@zZwellZz]

Laptop cpus are not facing this problem due to lower voltage.

[@misterringer]

Man, even on air it's still wrecking the Scar 18. You'd really think they'd do a better job with cooling in such a big platform.

[@Asimowild]

They decided to make whistling coolers all over laptop in order to show "we have moar coolars, we are beter!! Buy asas you are true playar!" P.s. 13980hx 4090 scar 18 user in the past Now having this mechrevo 14900hx 4090 with #1 world record on all laptop intels in xtu2😂

[@tdm3bros]

there are laptops with 300 watt chargers??

[@JarrodsTech]

330 and 400 exist too

[@Peizxcv]

Are they using an old Lenovo Legion 5 Pro mold? It looks so much like the superior Lenovo

[@Asimowild]

Yeah they were inspired by legion good points

[@sokpanhanov8036]

can you do review on asus g18 JVR 2024 with rtx 4060 pleaaseeee

[@TheJuankpunk]

Is it just me or does it looks identical to a Legion laptop? Exactly the same design 😮

[@Asimowild]

Laptops tend to get to same design same as all phones look the same now from the front

[@nemesis7884]

XMG has bad priorities...nobody wants a gaming laptop with "the best performance" that doesnt even come with wifi 7 or a mini LED /oled screen....

[@Asimowild]

You can change both😂 get miniled from g16 and unstall, bolt on. And wifi card even more simple 10 mins to change:D lazy.

[@MichaelK-lz7jk]

„Nobody“ Hi, im Nobody 🙋🏻‍♂️ Not everyone needs Oled, this screen is great, better than many oled panels a few years ago. And yeah, you can switch the WiFi card whenever you wants, or upgrade the memory or ssds, no problem and no proble. With warranty.

[@gogogogogogogogogogog9]

oh my kidney

[@destroyer4134]

How would this compare to the Lenovo Legion 9i Gen 9? I am torn between the two and I don't know which to buy.

[@JarrodsTech]

I think it should be in some of the benchmark graphs, if I didn't include it you can check our Legion 9i video and compare results.

[@g.j.2857]

Why is not Jarrod talking about Intel instability issues? Which laptops are affected? I saw 13700HX and below are safe due to low Wattage and Voltage

[@JarrodsTech]

I don't have anything to say about it until Intel acknowledges it with some real info. Anything else is kind of guess work or speculation and I don't want to be a contributor to fearmongering without solutions. That said, XMG have probably provided the best details so far: www.xmg.gg/en/news-update-intel-core-cpus-laptops-stability/

[@g.j.2857]

@@JarrodsTech Sounds fair. I guess Reddit has gotten me with the panic. I believe you would be among the first to experience instability issues with all these tests after a year and a half. Thank you for the reply.

[@g.4279]

Why does every single XMG laptop with premium pricing have trash screens?

[@MichaelK-lz7jk]

because the screens are being bought up by the big players and there are none left for the small companies.

[@Terreos]

I remember posting about the first gen watercooler for these laptops on notebook forums before it died and there were so many people that thought this would never catch on. Wish I can show them this now because this has come a long way and it very impressive. Maybe next year we can see some OLED or Mini LED screens. Maybe some upward firing speakers too. Not a deal breaker, but I’d love to see those changes. Otherwise this is pretty awesome.

[@helios6379]

Lenovo has its Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9 at 2599€ on the store. I'd like a laptop with those specs (RTX 4080, 32 GB RAM, i9-14900HX) and I do gaming and some photo editing (Photoshop, Lightroom Classic, Topaz Photo AI). Thermals are a big deal since I can't keep my room as cool as I'd like during summer. With all that said, does anybody think Lenovo should be my pick or is there a better alternative? I'm based in Italy if that matters, and yes, I need a laptop, no desktop. TIA!

[@Asimowild]

The one on the video will be better for sure.

[@helios6379]

At 3000€ (w/o Oasis), which I'm currently not willing to spend. But thanks for your input!

[@ronmc1677]

dude I love your presentations about my favorite gadgets but just maybe don't try to make it too structured... maybe then you'd sound a whole lot more awesome and be super interesting to listen to and watch as well. just imagine that it's your best friend sitting behind the camera and imagine yourself being super excited to tell them about the latest and greatest in technology! Cheers man! I really love your take on the latest gadgets! Love from India

[@dcyt_]

Thanks for testing Linux!

[@bobcoffee11]

The price on the gpu upgrades lol 1500 for 4090 upgrade, 950 for 4080.

[@vncube1]

It's what the Legion 9i should've been.

[@24yrukdesigner]

Gosh I wish someone would make an actual monster of a laptop. These are all so tiny.................... Inside and out :( Please help me find a BEAST of a laptop as my current has 3080 RTX already with 4tb and 64gb mem, with i9 and it's feeling old already. Need some proper power, but a lot of these new laptops being advertised aren't even really that much of a big jump from what I already got :(

[@TheNaitsyrk]

Well, its not surprising that when its got liquid boost and liquid metal. If added to other laptops (just LM) those results would be much closer together.

[@Asimowild]

The cooling system is astonishing even without water circuit

[@TheNaitsyrk]

​@@Asimowild Check Titan GT77HX V13 it's bigger. The only difference is LM

[@nixtc]

Fastest ram you can config on it is 5600 ... and you're stuck with 32GB or you will need to go lower for 64. You can't spec an AMD cpu... . You have the option of choosing cheaper brand components for nvma and ram ... but the price is still way way way more than what you actually get. With the amount of balls the brand has already dropped up until here i'd rather not overpay for a machine i cannot spec the way most people would want it, but hey they're logo is something different to watch. Nice hype video though.

[@Asimowild]

Crazy lie, i have seen 7200 here. You even gave all overclock options for ram. Buy 5600 hynix ram and overclock it. Even 48gb modules are on market now, just use google

[@xmg_gg]

2x16GB DDR5-5600 is the official support limit of Intel Core HX series. By the way, the official limit of AMD's adjacent CPU (Dragon Range) is only DDR5-5200 with the same capacity. We support DDR5-5600 at low latency of CL40 (standard is CL46) with Kingston FURY. As I wrote this, I saw that the option to upgrade to Kingston FURY seems to have been missing from the shop configurator in NEO 16 recently. It was present in NEO 17. This is fixed now. On top of this low-latency RAM, you have manual memory tuning via BIOS setup. Many users are running their memory at DDR5-6000 or higher, supposedly stable (your mileage may vary). This can also be done with 64GB RAM to go beyond Intel's DDR5-5200 limit. Component upgrade prices reflect our real-world purchasing prices, plus a bit of margin we need to support our service-level agreements. Not sure which other balls we have dropped, would you care to elaborate? Thank you for your feedback! // Tom

[@MichaelK-lz7jk]

You can overclock manually, mine works with 6400 CL38 very fine, without more Voltage.👌🏻

[@Backstage_Politician]

Not worth it, Especially with Intel chip

[@Asimowild]

It is actually best. If you know nothing about intel and is just generally ofraid of it, i can understand, but just disable turbo boost 3.0 and undervolt cpu a little bit and you are safe to go for 10 years. Owner of this machine, holding #1 workd record in xtu2 benchmark on hwbot (verified)

[@Asimowild]

Actually intel is doing well here, 0 issues yet on laptops.

[@Backstage_Politician]

@@Asimowild garbage

[@hypogogix9125]

anyone who has the money and is thinking about a laptop over a desktop. YOU HAVE LOST YOUR MIND! If you're not going to be travelling don't buy a gaming laptop. I'm typing on one right now. They are nothing compared to desktops.

[@MohammedS29]

Hi there can you please suggest me some good cooling pads for my Acer predator helios neo 16 2023 model Also can you please suggest both budget and expensive ones Do you think it is necessary for the laptop?

[@glitchy8429]

Can you please look into intel failure in laptops. Intel is trying to act like laptops aren’t degrading, but they are. TVB is pushing these 13th and 14th gen intel machines to 1.55v at 5.6ghz in even the most minor loads. Those numbers are okay for a desktop, but are absolutely insane for a laptop. I’ve returned the asus g814jz three times with issues of blue screen out of video memory errors and stuttering in games. I’ve had the one I have now for about 9 months and haven’t had any blue screens, but with these numbers I fear it’s only a matter of time. Even on this laptop I can’t load D4 with settings turned all the way down and frames capped at 60fps without hwinfo lighting up like a Christmas tree with all the thermal throttling… dude it’s so bad and IDK why no one’s talking about it.

[@Asimowild]

Lock 2 "lucky" cores to 5.5 and you're ok. Undervolt will help too

[@MSR93]

XMG Neo 16 is a beast. but considering the brand is from Germany, i don't think the brand has been established in other countries. always consider the customer support when buying your machine.

[@Asimowild]

Xmg are just enthusiasts selling tongfang chassis. Actual brand is mechrevo (owned by tongfang)

[@Asimowild]

Xmg is using tongfang chassis here.

[@Half_lightning]

Please help - with what configuration should you buy a laptop from the same company, namely Lonovo loq -> AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS(7840hs) vs Intel i7-13650HX, rtx 4060 video card. Or is there some kind of laptop better than Lenovo for the same money with the same configuration? Which one is colder and more stable?

[@FlawlessEntropy]

The 330w is not enough for the full speck 4090 and i9, the legion 7 discharged the battery while under heavy load.

[@wheeler9161]

Just want to note, you dont want to play rdr2 at 120hz, Weird things happen, like when you get off your horse you immediately fall down. I stick to 60 frames and it plays very well.

[@hoseinqadam]

Hello, so I recently got the Lenovo Legion 7i (2023 model with rtx 4080); great laptop and lovin it so far. I have one annoyance with it tho. The GPU wont go off (yes I am in hybrid mode) when I remove the cable. I have to put the laptop to sleep and rewake it for it to turn of the dGPU. very annoying. Anyone have a fix for this, this looks to be a Windows thing more than anything else.

[@miapocalypse3364]

i had a liquid metal cooled laptop before, chill temps, but a lot of stress when it comes to changing the LM, as the technicians at the repairs shops here have no idea what they are doing, it was extremely stressful changing it myself on a $2000+ laptop, switched to a newer laptop that uses PTM, much more comfortable changing the paste/pads and temps are just as good

[@kimstraat]

Ended up buying this from Aftershock in Melbourne over the weekend. Fantastic computer, no regrets! Just wish they had the watercooler in stock so the laptop wasnt so loud! Any ideas on where I can buy the watercooler overseas?

[@rayraylsx1788]

Dumb question but is a 4080/4090 laptop much better as opposed to a ps5 with a oled c2 at a constant 120 fps? Kind of want a oled laptop but not sure what to lean towards too. That Asus scar is really tempting!

[@faridahyasmin7660]

This or asus rog strix or asus zephyrus? Mostly for gaming but also to be able to use it for everything else a laptop can offer. And what GPU and TGP should I look for?

[@igorbukovy4313]

When U pressed your finger on the touchpad, small gap appeared in the lower right corner.

[@hamza44044]

i wonder if there is a way to get the gpu to boost over 175 watts, or give more power to the cpu while under load, since there is so much thermal headroom with the liquid cooler for me, the liquid cooler seems pointless since the laptop has the same total power budget as other air cooled laptop

[@Asimowild]

175w+ is possible with shunt mod but you lose warranty. 4090 will go up to 30% increase with shunt mod. Water cooler gives the headroom for oc

[@hamza44044]

@@Asimowild i dont know if the 330W power adapter would be enough for 30% increase, and can the laptop power circuit handle that ? would've been nice if increased power limit with the liquid cooler was supported out of the box.

[@Asimowild]

@@hamza44044 it can handle that. Max i seen 450w peak from wall socket.

[@MichaelK-lz7jk]

30%, really? Way over 30.000 Points in Timespy?

[@RayanAli2.0]

Kindly compare rtx 2070 vs rtx 3070 vs rtx 4070 laptops

[@ahmettarikyanik]

Hey mate I've a question. Would you prefer legion pro5 with i7 13620h or loq with r7 8845hs?

[@Roswell01Area51]

MSI Titan 18 HX A14V has similar specs and Wi-Fi 7.

[@RipeStories]

Sorry, did I get this right? Without any tweaking in bios etc. this thing gets almost the same performance in the balanced (with liquid cooling) 36-38decibel mode as in the 55decibel maxed out sh1t mode? This is the most impressive, quietest performance, I have ever seen in a laptop.

[@xmg_gg]

You got this right. // Tom

[@gavin100]

I just got a Alienware x15 r2 for 1500 maxed out was it a good deal or should I have just bought a new laptop

[@kraosdadafusfus8034]

+All that you said - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - It has a Raptor Lake CPU and is therefore a ticking time bomb.

[@Asimowild]

Disable intel turbo boost 3.0 and undervolt, boom, you are safe for 10 years

[@_CharlieHarper]

... you know what ? We have a 2024 high-end gaming laptop in front of us here. And this laptop is competing with the best machines on the market. And yet you will find here the archaic USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports with 5 Gbps maximum speed which I only have on my 5 year old office laptop. Frankly, I don't get it ... I was so excited, the laptop looked so promissing ... and then I found that this Ferrari has got Fiat Panda rims which you cannot remove.

[@Asimowild]

Didnt know your mouse needs 10gbit usb slots, sorry

[@xmg_gg]

I understand the grievance, but hear me out: the port selection is related to the number of PCIe lanes provided by the chipset and the total number of ports we have. A laptop with 2x USB-C and 3x USB-A, plus ethernet, card reader and dual SSD slots will have different limitations than a laptop with smaller number of ports. 16 PCIe lanes are dedicated to the dGPU. Some other laptops may only give the dGPU x8 lanes to compensate. Aside from movie production, where you'd often deal with large files on external storage, there are not that many use cases where 5 Gbps of USB 3.2 Gen1 is insufficient. If you need one really fast I/O port, you have the Thunderbolt 4 interface with 40 Gbps. If you need multiple fast I/O ports, you could use a Thunderbolt docking station or portable hub. // Tom

[@_CharlieHarper]

@@xmg_gg thank you for your kind response. Basically, I very much like the laptop and I am about to purchase one of these, I was just "complaining" that it does not have the specs I am used to from other hi-end laptop brands (like Raz...) where you have the min. USB 3.2 Gen2s (10 Gbps), or Thunderbolts (20/40 Gbps), and USB4s (20/40 Gbps). I also understand that I am not some usual Gaming Laptop user, I use these machines as full desktop replacements, so I need a lot of external accessories to attach to it and having 10 Gbps+ speeds on all ports is something I need. For a gamer the 5 Gbps may be enough, I agree. Anyways, as a Raz... laptop user, it was my feeling that there are some minimum standards for 2024 laptops and I felt that min. USB 3.2 Gen2 was one of them. Though after checking some major laptop brands, I also found USB 3.2 Gen1s in some cases, but I also found that at least 1x USB 3.2 Gen2 was present ...

[@xmg_gg]

@@_CharlieHarper The 17" version (XMG NEO 17) has USB-A Gen2 on the left side, but is missing the second USB-C port. You can also find some other 16" SKUs that do not have the all-metal chassis of our current NEO 16. Those also have USB-A Gen2 on the left side, but missing the second USB-C port, just like our XMG NEO series in 2023. Basically, the 1xGen2 port on the left side was split up into 2xGen1 ports in the latest chassis revision. This was done because the second Type-C port was sorely missed. // Tom

[@_CharlieHarper]

@@xmg_gg thank you. I purchased the NEO 16, so I hope it will be fine.

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

I feel like they had to keep everything safe and protected and strong because if you put something and make it more look like it’s cheap build it can damage stuff inside that’s what I think. Maybe that’s why they had to keep it secure for the liquid cooler.

[@Asimowild]

Wut

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

@@Asimowild because if they did make something cheaper build and there’s still liquid cooler in there you can probably damage the liquid cooler and cause a leak that’s what I think so maybe that’s why you had to keep your laptop look like it’s being proper quality because if you don’t do that, it’s gonna cause a lot of problems

[@valkovtala1504]

Hi, will you be making a video on lenovo loq 2024 intel models motherboard issue?

[@BreeHorsfall]

Ro me, this looks like the perfect machine for those companies that need to outfit on-site engineers/designers. Cuz the cpu is so powerful.

[@Gabriel2.0]

no oled?

[@Asimowild]

Grab miniled from g16 and install. Bolt on mod

[@chhenghunrfs9056]

Can you compare the RTX 3050 desktop to the RTX 4050 laptop gpu?

[@baboka2616]

Do not spend your hard earned money an intel cpu right now, the risks are too high

[@sp63902]

This laptop reminds me a lot of the Lenovo’s Legion Pro 7 models. The keyboard and light bar on the front and the materials look similar.

[@jlb4685]

yeah only this laptop doesn't use cheap plastic like the Legions. Source: I own a Legion 7 Pro.

[@goldmastersimulations]

This is basically Legion 7i Gen 7 on steroids.

[@Asimowild]

All true as guys above say.

[@XieRH1988]

One thing about the light customisation that really annoyed me about tongfang models (and has not been fixed from what I see in this video) is that you don't have true full RGB customisability, because you're locked to only choosing the 100% saturation values of every hue from red to purple on the spectrum I found out about this when I got an tongfang laptop from aftershock and to my surprise couldnt even set my keyboard colour to white.

[@Asimowild]

You can change the leds per key on this model

[@TungNguyen-rg1sc]

love XMG 16, can anyone tell what is the name of this laptop in China?

[@kimstraat]

Question - does it matter if you use water or coolant in the water cooler?

[@llobell86]

Are you going to try the Asus Zenbook with the latest AMD APU?

[@blakvein]

What about unlocking gpu power limit here?

[@permanno4104]

Ah yes it's better than my i5 1135g7 that I game on

[@JomilaHak-b4u]

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[@muratgelir]

looks like a cheap ass legion

[@Asimowild]

No, it makes legion look like cheap ass now😂

[@BarbaraGarcia-q2j]

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[@lolol50735]

why stay at 175w with the water cooler? its excesive

[@Nate-mg7hk]

Day one of asking for the XMG Neo 16 (2024

[@Big_Camper]

press the like botton not for me for the vedeo

[@YAAMW]

3:42 Touchpad size has a typo. 1.23 cm

[@unionofslavstanrepublics2317]

The screen not being MiniLED or OLED is a shame, hopefully this isn't the case next year.

[@Asimowild]

Buy one from scar g16 and install, it is 100% compatible

[@teamkengi1214]

Hi. What cheaper 4090 laptops you would recommend. Thanks

[@Asimowild]

4090 is even not put to its max due to 175w limit.. and you want to get a cheaper 4090 laptop where situation is much worse?) you like tha fancy 4090 label, do you? Get decent 4080

[@ROCCATEER92]

The 17 inch version (Neo 17) has the option for a mechanical keybord. The lack of really good screen options is the biggest reason why (as a German) still don't buy any laptops from XMG. In 2025 I will be in the market for a new gaming laptop and so far, I'm most curious about the next generation of Lenovos Legion 7 Pro.

[@MichaelK-lz7jk]

Hatte die Mechanische getestet, musste ich zurückschicken. Nichts gegen ein bisschen klicken, aber das Teil war so laut, das ich nun die normale habe. Würde die keinesfalls weiterempfehlen, nichtmal wenn ich NC Kopfhörer nutzen würde.

[@ROCCATEER92]

@@MichaelK-lz7jk Danke für den Erfahrungsbericht. Ich sitze aktuell an einem Aorus-Laptop mit mech. Tastatur. Einen Vergleich mit anderen habe ich leider nicht.

[@MichaelK-lz7jk]

@@ROCCATEER92 Es gibt einen Tester vom Neo 17 (13900hx) der nimmt die extra auf damit man das besser einschätzen kann, er hatte die auch für recht laut empfunden. Da ich nun mit Wasserkühlung und den richtigen Settings ein praktisch lautloses System habe, fällt das klicken schon sehr auf. Wenn man ein Notebook hat, bei dem die Lüfter schon gut hörbar sind, nimmt man es vermutlich anders wahr.

[@Asimowild]

Get a miniled from asus g16, bolt on mod.

[@ROCCATEER92]

@@MichaelK-lz7jk Ich hab das Video gefunden (von mpoxDE). Die mech. Tastatur des Neo 17 ist ja wirklich übel laut. Da kann ich mit der mech. Tastatur meines 17G (2020) wirklich weiterhin zufrieden sein.

[@aymanelzain1271]

Now we need the real RTX 4090 desktop on laptops, the liquid cooler is nice for desktop replacement laptops.

[@-_--le3zk]

While this laptop is absolutely awesome in thermals, there is absolutely no way it is gonna run a desktop 4090 at full power, as the tdp is around 400 or 450 watts, plus you will need a ridiculously big charger, which i think counterfeits the point of laptop being portable.

[@aymanelzain1271]

@@-_--le3zk The full power it will be impossible to cold , but it can use the same die and reduce the power to like 225 watte , and it will be more efficient than the desktop one

[@Asimowild]

Fun fact: first 50% of gpu power attributes of 80% performance. Desktop 4090 eats 500w, laptop 175w. Desktop is only 50% ahead on performance. No point in desktop gpu in laptop at all.

[@Asimowild]

​@@aymanelzain1271it will not

[@lharsay]

A 600mm^2 die is simply too large for laptops.

[@TheVoyagers.]

19:30 legion 7i (2023) higher than 9i? Wow

[@trick8633]

Is it faster than Asus rog scar strix 17 with x3d ?

[@maverick2678]

Just build my 1.5k gaming pc. Don't need any other portable gaming device. I barely play games now i hat a pc😂

[@Asimowild]

If you dont play games get a 7840hs laptop looking like an ultrabook (or even 8840h or how they rebranded it) why stick to the nonmovable solution

[@Amp_Edition]

Don't waste your money boys, 5000 series is on the horizon

[@arnabiitmphy]

Yeah, but the 5000 series laptop version will come later compared to the desktop version.

[@Amp_Edition]

@@arnabiitmphy not much later, I mean if you've waited this long you might as well wait little longer. I returned 2 different laptops but 18inch one had a asus 13900hx and other acer 14900hx with 4080 and both has massive stutter, frame pacing problems. People that have the previous gen with 3070 said they had no such issues and they also returned these current gen, it's the current gen that has problems. Buy at your own risk.

[@arnabiitmphy]

@@Amp_Edition I recently bought MSI Vector which has i9 14900hx, and 4080, since my older laptop (which was from 2015) just gave up. Performance wise this MSI laptop has been quite good. I ran some benchmark tests, and it scored about 30K in cinebench r23 and about 19K in 3D mark time spy, which is in line with other laptops with the same specs. The only major complaint I have based on my use till now, is the fan noise on this laptop is really really loud, to the point it can get really annoying. Concerning the stuttering in games, I don't know since I haven't played any games on this laptop yet. So, the stuttering you got while gaming on your laptop, can it be just driver issue, and an update can fix it?

[@GeneRauXxX]

@@Amp_Edition any proof that they are stuttering?

[@blondegirl7240]

Who cares if 4080 has amazing performance