This Has MORE Features! Don't Pass On The Dabbsson 1000 Pro - Fully Tested!

[@Bamabrute85]

I know your testing time is limited but a real surge test on all the big name power stations would be a video i think a ton of people would be interested in.

[@Jasonoid]

That would be an interesting video!

[@jorgef70]

Jason, this is the first time I came across one of your videos. I have to honestly say that it is quite refreshing that someone finally has created a testing format that engineers like myself have been dying to see. Please do not change the way you test. It is methodical and I like it quite a bit. You answer the questions that I feel most people think about but no one else reviews. Other peoples reviews are pathetic. They just go over features and no one really puts things to the test like the way you did in this video. I like the way you have all the proper equipment to do measurements which is really cool. Some people might say that the video is too long, I would tell those people to go scratch. it needs to be that long because you are extremely thorough in what you’re doing. This helps people like myself to make an informed decision based on real world results. The only thing that maybe I would add to your test would be cold temperature charging and discharging. This is an important topic because of batteries and it’s the only thing that I did not see you do. Another thing is to test AC efficiency at 25%,50%,75% &100% Load, to see if it met your 85% efficiency target. Keep doing what you’re doing. -Jorge mechanical engineer from NJ

[@Jasonoid]

My videos have slowly evolved with better test equipment and processes each time. It's a lot of work and takes weeks to complete but it's a way to see how they truly perform. Thanks for sharing your feedback! 👍

[@Bamabrute85]

That clamp meter for testing surge input is the best addition to your tests yet. Makes me wonder how inflated some of these surge ratings on these power stations are.

[@Jasonoid]

Thanks, I think it will be a great way to see how the inverter really behaves as I test surge capabilities.

[@deogood4060]

great review. Love the addition of USB/DC fully loaded and the AC surge test. We appreciate the detailed testing.

[@Jasonoid]

Thanks for the feedback :)

[@MovingPics2010]

That parasitic drain on the AC inverter is horrific. Have you considered adding parasitic drain to your grading scale? You could combine the AC and DC discharge test and create a separate category for AC and DC parasitic drain. That way you could give a half a point if it meets meets one requirement in either category.

[@Jasonoid]

I appreciate the feedback. I think having a whole point dedicated to capacity is important (half point for each AC and DC capacity). I've considered getting rid of the '24 hour customer service' column since theres not a good way to quantify that per model. I could probably consider a couple other options to replace that, like idle power usage or maybe something else.

[@MovingPics2010]

@@Jasonoid I agree that the 24-hour service requirement would be a good candidate for elimination. It's highly subjective. I really enjoy the thoroughness that you apply to reviews. It is amazing how far this technology has evolved even in the past few years. I wish you were able to review more of the upcoming off-brands, to find the next diamond in the rough. Currently, those reviews are only being done by very questionable sources.

[@mattssacre]

Idle power usage is far more important than some of the other things in your scale. That AC draw would be a deal breaker for most people.

[@Sonoma_Coast]

That USB test with all them going at once was impressive. Congrats on the 75,000 subs. Been watching for a few years now.

[@Jasonoid]

Thanks for sticking around for awhile! My returning viewers mean a lot to me 👍

[@AGilbert_81]

Hey Jason, I have the Dab 1300wh and it's been proven to be a winner 🏆.

[@Jasonoid]

Excellent! I like to hear positive feedback about new brands I am reviewing.

[@johntate5284]

Great even more thorough review! This one has to be the output king! Those are pretty impressive surge currents for a $650 box and a 200 watt 12V section too! I should have waited for this one instead of my AC180:(

[@Jasonoid]

I love the powerful AC inverter and the fact this will get 200 watts of DC output. I need to test the AC180 inverter on a couple surge tests. It seems to do well when I use it for my saws around the yard.

[@YouLookinAtMe-Bro]

Wow Jason, you must be psyco... I mean psychic! Lol I had my mind set in getting the Pecron e1500lfp this weekend. That or this one? Thanks for everything you do brother...much appreciated! Edit: After watching this entire video, I've decided on the Pecron. Mainly for the larger capacity, larger inverter. Plus the Dabbsson idle inverter test was concerning.

[@Jasonoid]

The Pecron is a great unit as well. I think you'll enjoy that one too!

[@jjm9902]

We purchased the Pecron E1500 LFP as well, and 2 of the EP3000 batts to max out the system. Been using it since last Oct. All's well. ❤

[@greensavant2573]

What it does well, it does very well. What is does not so well, is a deal breaker. But let's not forget, on other features it raised the bar above some "leaders", and the whole industry wins here (meaning "we the Customer"!)

[@Jasonoid]

Competition is a great thing for us customers :)

[@Darth_Raider_]

Lets all take a second to give thos video a thumbs up for all the information we got testing. Thank you.

[@Jasonoid]

Thanks! It takes weeks for a video like this!

[@kevinholland4156]

I like the added start-up for tools. It helps decide which power station can do the job you use it for. Congratulations on you pushing over 75K subscribers!

[@Jasonoid]

Thanks, Kevin!

[@SandiRose2008]

I've been anxious to see a review from you about one of the Dabbsson Power Stations. I'm glad you were impressed. I would be happier if they scored an A+. I, also, give my power station an A-. I give my experience with the company a D. I bought my DBS2300 Plus in Oct. 2023 on sale for $1600 from Amazon. It included a 200S solar panel. Two months later, I realized I had received the DBS2300, not the DBS2300 Plus. Okay, my loss. I looked on the website today, and the same solar kit is on sale for $1219. Another complaint, in my opinion, a major negative is that the DBS2300 Manual has the bare minimum of necessary information. Another negative, I had questions so I called Customer Service and couldn't get any answers. Both times I was told I should send in an email with my questions. Needless to say, I'm unhappy with the company. I'm satisfied with the Power Station. I haven't tested it much, but the little I've used it, I'm satisfied. I bought it because it was advertised as an EV semi-solid state LiFeP04 portable power station. I guess I'll see how truly impressive the station is during hurricane season. I'm thinking about buying another solar panel, but not anything else. Thank you for the very informative and thorough review, Jason. Once again, I'm always impressed with your grading system!

[@Jasonoid]

Excellent feedback, I'm glad the product is working well for you BUT it's a bummer the customer support is just like all the other smaller companies (and even some big ones).... Non existient! We'll have to see what some of my other viewers say about the service as well.

[@kevinholland4156]

Good information on the company. A product is only good if it stands behind its product.

[@SandiRose2008]

@@kevinholland4156 Hi Kevin. I called twice and both times said that I had questions about the DBS2300 so the person I was talking to would know exactly which power station I was calling about. And both times I was told, Go ahead, I can help you. Well, evidently Not! I was so disappointed. Oh, well. Thanks for the comment!

[@kentbernard9842]

In doing pre purchase research, I emailed the company several with questions before making my purchase and they responded within 24 hours with clear and in-depth responses. Seems all communications go to China since alway reply to my email after 9:00pm CST. But the writing is always clear. US based service center answer phones but do not answer sales or product questions.

[@SandiRose2008]

@@kentbernard9842 Thank you for the information, Ken. Now I'm even more disappointed!

[@davidmead2204]

I picked up the main unit plus an expansion battery a while ago and could likely duplicate your results. I would love to see them change the solar charging on the main unit, especially when you’re putting a load on it while solar charging. It has gotten me through two different power outages and is currently in use as a giant “UPS” for my computer and network equipment. Last note, I was not able to start my table saw, but it’s a small cabinet style made by Delta, so possibly a higher inrush current than yours. Thanks for the honest review!

[@Jasonoid]

Yeah, this table saw isn't a huge one but it still pulls a big surge so I think it's a good test. My father in law has a dewalt table saw that pulls 48 amps on startup!

[@Gman-26]

Nice review Jason. I think Dabbsson will be around for awhile. Got my attention as in looking for something in this size.

[@MrLegendfx]

Congratulations on you pushing over 75K subscribers!

[@Jasonoid]

Thank you!! :)

[@Forevertrue]

Thanks Jason another excellent evaluation. I love the amount of solar charging from a home backup perspective. With that much solar I could run my two fridges all day without running the battery down much, then charge with a generator and run all night. Not bad.

[@mrct309]

Worth noting, the solar input is throttled quite a bit when the unit reaches temps of 115 F, or SOC at 85%.

[@Jasonoid]

Yeah, it's drops down to only ~125w when above 90% SOC as well. I showed that in the solar charging section of the video 👍

[@litnoregrets7551]

Such a great, thorough review. Thank you so much for providing all the data I need in one review. I wish there were a way to test reliability, at least an easy way. This seems like a nice unit, although the idle drain does concern me for my purposes. Thanks again.

[@Jasonoid]

Probably just using the device constantly would be the best way to test that. I definitely can't do that with all the models I review.

[@litnoregrets7551]

@@Jasonoid I totally get it. Thanks again for all your hard work and help.

[@markmonroe7330]

Excellent presentation. Thank you. Doing a really great job on these reviews.

[@Jasonoid]

Thank you, Mark!

[@jw3843]

Nice unit and they actually went above 60 volt input. I wish all of them would do that. I like the amp test on the load.

[@Jasonoid]

75 volts! Way better than just 60v since you can do 3S with that! 👍😎

[@imadreamer4758]

Great in detail review. Loving the work you do. 👍 I wonder if there is a significant difference in AC performance in the EU versions of the various powerstations, as our sockets are 230V.

[@YouLookinAtMe-Bro]

Oh, it seems the Dabbsson has semi solid lifepo4 battery which claims 4500 cycles at 15 years to 80% capacity.

[@Jasonoid]

'solid state' is a term that's used very loosely these days. I haven't heard of solid state LFP batteries before so I'm sticking with normal LFP for now. I'm not a battery engineer so I can't say whether it's a valid claim or not. I did some quick research on Google and never found anything about solid state LFP batteries.

[@YouLookinAtMe-Bro]

That's what I thought it was at first to..."solid state" but it's SEMI-SOLID.

[@mrct309]

I just got the parallel adapter/hub (30 amp) for my two units. Its quite good quality built. One downside is low power consumption load doesn't pull equally from both units. Hopefully a firmware fix addresses that!

[@californiamusic]

Good stuff.. thanks!

[@rcguymike]

I also wanted to see what happened if you connected the EB with the main unit if it would have taken more solar, or limited. If you can have multiple EBs and arrays connected to all of them while you run a load will it take in more solar. That's my current issue with the Delta 2 Max...only 1000W of solar to charge 6kWhs is impossible to do in an average solar day and then you throw in a constant load of 600-1000W and your EBs are hardly helping/doing anything.

[@Jasonoid]

Great point. I just didn't have enough 60v solar to test with. All my other panels are near 125v to 150v!

[@grindychum]

In regards to the main unit limiting the solar input over 80% SOC - I wonder if the unit was AC discharging (like 300w) would it allow in more solar input?

[@Jasonoid]

The passthrough charging on this unit charges both the battery and runs the load for AC charging, so I'd hope that it'd also work that same way with DC charging.

[@matthiasgrutzner9768]

7:29 If only I could plug in a 7th USB device! :D JK, excellent testing.

[@Jasonoid]

Totally! Haha 🤣

[@HorseRadish403]

Sticking with my Ecoflow

[@Firephosure]

Jason, great review. You're the only reviewer that test how much a power station will accept on 12v/24v/36/48v. Super useful information as I use 24v and 48v lifepo4 batteries as my expansions. I find it very odd that Dabbsson only allow ~200w on 24v. I have the DBS3500 and I tested my 48v battery and I briefly get 1200w but it dropped to 400w and stayed there consistently. I must be doing something wrong or my setting is wrong . I will revisit that test and see what I'm doing wrong as you're getting 1200w.

[@Jasonoid]

Youre not doing anything wrong L, these units are kinda quirky with DC Charging. 1200 watts really quick and then they drop down. I did have them update the firmware on the 1000 model which helped a bit. Maybe try to see if there's a firmware update waiting on yours.

[@Firephosure]

@@Jasonoid Thanks Jason, you have a lot more pull than I do. I use the DBS3500 for my RV and 2x48v 50a for my expansion. Getting 400w inputs was a bit slow but luckily, I'm not pulling much beyond 400w from the RV so my system is OK. Hopefully the firmware updates will help.

[@rwstarke]

Did you do charging when the main unit and battery are connected? Charging either one and both when connected.

[@Jasonoid]

I tested AC charging with both units connected. The power is shared between them and they charge and discharge at similar rates.

[@patryott2468]

I'd like to know how it compares with Oupes?

[@Jasonoid]

It beats Oupes on quality for sure! Fans are silent, solar works much better on this too!

[@brushbum7508]

@@Jasonoid Thank You for answering that ! TAKE CARE..

[@ashebarley77385]

@@Jasonoid how does this compare to pecron?

[@Jasonoid]

@@ashebarley77385 they are similar, a bit complicated to explain here. It probably be best to watch both videos back to back or compare them in my grading spreadsheet to see what works best for you 👍

[@LordAshura]

Thanks for the review, but I have to say the parasitic drain on this is beyond acceptable and ruins this overall. I was wondering if you would revisit the Anker F3800 as there has been some firmware upgrades that allow Dual Charging and changed the solar voltage thresholds.

[@Jasonoid]

I've posted about the new changes. The solar changes are great, same with Dual charging. Still waiting for an update to allow the 240v output to be enabled while AC charging.

[@brushbum7508]

Good Evening ! I want to buy the generator & battery together, but were you able to purchase the solar parallel connector you used, or did you have to make it. Thank You.

[@wt9653]

For the price of 1599 on the power station and extension battery. I'll buy 3 power stations for 595 each or 649 each. 😂

[@Jasonoid]

Wouldn't be a bad idea! One could be charging while another could be in use!

[@mrct309]

But then your idle and low power consumption efficency tanks quite a bit with 3 units. Many pros and cons.

[@wt9653]

@@mrct309 I can drop off the power stations without the extension cords I can also add a 48v LFP battery in any size to prolong the life of the power station

[@mrct309]

I tested with 98 VOC and it worked. Note, I only tested that for 5 mini.

[@Jasonoid]

95VOC solar? Really? Cool!

[@mrct309]

@Jasonoid yeah, very odd the label on the solar input port says 60V max. I think they mislabeled it.

[@Jasonoid]

Well 75v is plenty for a 3S config 👍 glad to hear it can go a little higher if needed.

[@newporttom]

On any station I need to know if it has software that will drop back to grid when battery gets to a level determined by the user. Ecoflows have that (Backup Reserve). It appears Pecron 3600 might (under UPS settings) and that Anker F3800 does at least under certain circumstances (Self consumption mode) . Anker C1000 does not. Although an App Update could change that. So far every time it's being "forwarded to the engineers" it gets lost.

[@Jasonoid]

I have only seen power stations that have customized charging scenarios that will let them say if the battery drops down to XX%, start charging from the wall. It seems only the large options offer that type of customization. I THINK the Bluetti AC300/AC500, Anker F3800 might have that option, I know the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra does.

[@newporttom]

@@Jasonoid I have Ecoflow D2, and all 3 sizes of River 2's. They all have that option. I won't buy another battery without it. Would like to see that checked during reviews.

[@Scat.original]

I like your usb tester, do you have a link to that?

[@Jasonoid]

This is the tester I used in the video: amzn.to/3AXM3h5

[@Johnny_Kanuk]

Does the main unit adjust the percentage to reflect both the expansion battery and main units charge? Also, if you have the solar connected to the main unit, does it charge the main and any external batteries? Or do you have to charge them separately? Great review. Like these units.

[@Jasonoid]

When the units are connected they both charge and discharge together and hold the same state of charge (or try to). It does a pretty good job of keeping them balanced. If you charge the main unit via solar, it charges both the main unit and the expansion battery. It also works if you charge the expansion battery, it charges the main unit. The power is shared between them.

[@Johnny_Kanuk]

@@Jasonoid nice, thanks for the info.

[@will_ren]

I might have missed it but did you do a test of the parasitic drain when leaving the USB ports running? Or are they limited into the DC circuit?

[@Jasonoid]

USB ports use such little power it's not worth testing.

[@justinfowler2857]

Losing 50%+ of your capacity just to inverter drain is an automatic fail. Pass.

[@Jasonoid]

It was definitely higher than other options. That's why it's important to test that on these models. Thanks for your feedback! 👍

[@DYT-jx4jp]

The "new"/revised surge test is 👍! since it seems to capture the peak automatically. If not hard, could you try it on the "basement refrig" just in one of your upcoming videos? I have old 20 yr main refrig that surges at around 2200-2400W for a second, but otherwises runs closer to 100-200W. Needless to say, this is driving a bigger inverter (on a "mid size" unit, my EF D2M has no problems) to deal with the surge. I know your refrigerators are different. Just curious how big the surge factor is. No worries if not; appreciate your videos and efforts!!

[@Jasonoid]

I think my old basement fridge spikes over 25 amps, I guess I need to test that! Haha 👍

[@DYT-jx4jp]

@@Jasonoid Your testing is great. 👍👍 The "basement refrig" test is "real world" with peaks, regular usage, idle waste, etc. (and hopefully not much of your time). It provides a rough comparison b/w units too. Thank you for the response and considering! (Our refrigs are "similar" electrically usage-wise :-)

[@stanpacer9180]

Thanks for the review. I might be worth it if it had a 30A Anderson port output---like the Delta Pro; and for Chuck's sake... why can't these companies make a 90 deg low profile connection cord. sheeeeeshhhh!!!!

[@Jasonoid]

Amen brotha! I'm all for those low profile connecting cables.

[@viquad]

Consider dabbsson dbs2300. It has 30A Anderson

[@claytoncampbell7541]

Jason, I have just ordered this power station based on the strength of this review! An idea for a future video: if you're a dude entering the world of solar by getting yourself a little power station like this one, but you want to add to its power storage in as thrifty a way as possible (standalone lifepo4 batteries rather than proprietary add-ons), what are the best approaches? Stuff like, do you charge the battery with solar and then have the battery supply the power station, or would you feed the station with solar and then have that feed the battery? This, of course, might even involve more than just batteries, cables and power stations - what are the pros and cons of different ways of doing this stuff? Basically, I'm thinking in terms of budget-minded viewers who want to incrementally build something fairly capable (I'm willing to bet there are tons of us watching). Anyway, you're the best-of-the-best out here and it's much appreciated! 🍻

[@Jasonoid]

I think you'd like this video! It talks about using standalone batteries as a DIY expansion battery on your power station: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnyXe36jm9OXnpo

[@claytoncampbell7541]

@@Jasonoid unbelievable! I think I should probably just watch your entire catalog...

[@dtrain3319]

Love your detailed reviews. What do yiu think is a better choice? This one or the oupes mega 1? Thanks

[@Jasonoid]

The Oupes has very loud fans and the solar charge controller is SUPER slow. I think this is a better option than the Oupes.

[@RaymondKIMATHI]

What's the Amazon link for your USB Power tester?

[@Jasonoid]

It's kinda expensive: amzn.to/4g9R2ve

[@RaymondKIMATHI]

@@Jasonoid Thanks 🙏🏽 The Geek 🤓 in me will buy it. May be on my birthday.

[@Travis-o6v]

Can you review the VDLPOWER if you get the times please

[@mrct309]

Anyone able to get 1200 watts of solar in? Best I got was 940 watts at 85 Voc

[@Jasonoid]

I did on the extra battery.

[@aeiro5390]

If you're going to add a transcript you should really proofread it so that it's not factually inaccurate. The subtitles claim that the dabson has 12200w of solar input and that all other power stations only have 100w inverters, which is completely inaccurate.

[@Jasonoid]

Subtitles are automatically created in English. I'll disable them 👍

[@aeiro5390]

@@Jasonoid you previously had uploaded subtitles, even if they were just copied over from the automatically generated subtitles. As a deaf person that's really misleading and frustrating. Disabling the automated subtitles is not a good solution there because now you've completely eliminated any chance for a deaf person to watch. I just asked that you proof read the subtitles that you uploaded.

[@Jasonoid]

I'm sorry about this situation. I'm just a one man show so I really don't have time to go through these subtitles for each video and proofread them. These videos already take me so much time after I finish my day job and take care of my family. KZbin is just a part time thing for me. If you think it's better to have unedited subtitles, then I can re-enable them, but they will have to be automatic if they are enabled.

[@twloughlin]

This misses a few marks for me personally. The mismatch between inverter power and battery capacity is too great to ignore. I get why they're doing it, but less than 85% usable energy is not good. And the idle power draw from the inverter is too great for me. Also, I'm not sure at this point that I'd ever buy another power station with just 10 amps of DC output. And I also think they really missed out on a golden opportunity to add, at the very least, a 10 amp cigarette outlet plug on the stand-alone battery. If that item could output 30 amps DC without an AC inverter, that would be a real advantage.

[@Jasonoid]

Thanks for sharing your feedback. You have some great points here!

[@dash-qe3ul]

Charging faster input is not good for the lifetime of the battery.

[@Jasonoid]

These batteries cycle 3500+ times before they even lose barely any capacity. You can torture them and still get 3000 cycles. Most people won't even cycle these things 500 times.

[@Bamabrute85]

You could always just turn the charge speed down...

[@ElderPinto254]

nice cannot get it europe holland dont sell this stuff you can a couple off them europe is so behind in this stuff and nothing in store!!

[@jnmc-vx4fw]

Nothing better then Evoflow products

[@Bamabrute85]

You realize he tests those too, right?

[@jnmc-vx4fw]

@@Bamabrute85 yes and eco flow is the best. Should just say that every time and then say , if you don’t want the best , then try this other option

[@Bamabrute85]

@jnmc-vx4fw how are they the best? I've never owned an Ecoflow product. I'm planning to get one soon though. Input from Ecoflow owners like yourself is appreciated.

[@jnmc-vx4fw]

@@Bamabrute85 I’ve tried Bluetti, Jackery and anker. I paid for them not given to me like these guys . And overall the build quality is superior. The charging speed is superior. The product line up is superior. The solar panels I use are the 220 watt and actually get 220 watts on a clear day and work good in partial shade . I’m a builder and I use my EcoFlow deta2 max in my work van. It runs a iceco fridge / freezer 24/7 and charges 6 battery charges , my laptop and mitresaw if needed and run a small fan . Once the battery is full , I put the solar panel directly on my van roof ( it gets very hot ) every day (5) at work 7am to 4pm. It doesn’t use any battery during the day unless it’s cloudy or raining. And at night it charges batteries and keeps my fridge/ freezer running. The next day the solar recharges the battery to full . Endless cycles. Never a flaw or problem in 3 yrs. Actually when I bought it , EcoFlow had a promo i missed for 2 free 100 watt solar panels and a light. I contacted them and said I would have waited to buy it if I knew . They sent me that stuff for free anyway. Great company. Great products. And I have the river 2 pro also. The new delta 3 and ultra for home back is unparalleled. I use a generac home back up but the ultra is insane. Best of luck

[@Jasonoid]

I don't choose favorites between brands to keep things unbiased for my videos. I'm not a fan boy of any brand. The amount of testing I do for these products (over 60 hours per review) isn't worth the value of the "free product". If you've ever seen my videos I show people how each model performs and they can choose to buy it or not. I'm not a salesman or a shill for one brand or another. Ecoflow is up there among the best quality power stations for sure but they have quirks just like any other brand (they don't offer high DC output and they have the annoying 60v solar cutoff). I've tested and used MANY EcoFlow products. The Delta 2 Max is an excellent model. I like how they upgraded the fans on that model, unlike the Delta 2 that has server fans in it. I use the EF Delta Pro Ultra daily and nothing comes close to it right now. I liked it so much I bought two more batteries for it....those are EXPENSIVE! Amazing power station though.

[@Forevertrue]

It's over Kamala stop bothering people.

[@Jasonoid]

Huh? 😂