The Best CARBON Bikes Made in CHINA? - WINSPACE Factory Tour

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Jasper Verkuijl

Jasper Verkuijl

Күн бұрын

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@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
This Documentary is supported by: ► WINSPACE Carbon Frames/handlebars, 10% off with code CYCLINGFANATICS 👉bit.ly/WINSPACEBIKES ► LÚN PERFORMANCE Carbon Wheels, 10% off with code CYCLINGFANATICS 👉 bit.ly/LúnMega
@dcv9460
@dcv9460 3 ай бұрын
Transparency makes you trust the brand more 💯 Kudos to Winspace for showing this video 👍
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻
@BikesKomsCRO
@BikesKomsCRO 2 ай бұрын
Transparency is good.. But know that this is china... Everything is very staged for his visit. I hope all we see and are told is true...but would you trust China telling you something? 😊
@marquesreyes3287
@marquesreyes3287 2 ай бұрын
Just remember this... The Chinese are trying to Steal the Netherlands's most important technology... ASML's tools to make smart chips.
@LazyGrayF0x
@LazyGrayF0x Ай бұрын
Yup
@VishnuRajendranAmboo
@VishnuRajendranAmboo 3 ай бұрын
The passion from the founder says it all
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Yes that’s what I think too!
@VishnuRajendranAmboo
@VishnuRajendranAmboo 2 ай бұрын
@@jasperverkuijl now allegedly hyperspace wheel sets is breaking off from it's hub. Saw a video and was told by a local bike shop it happened. One off but two, need some investigation I guess
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
@@VishnuRajendranAmbooI wouldn’t worry about it tbh…. I’ve discussed it with a high end wheel builder, it’s blown up and irrelevant. This is what Catastrophic failure looks like, it could happen to any wheel stressed in a way they are not designed to. Side entry spokes is being used all over the market and the amounts of these failures is nihil in relation to the amount of wheels out there….
@VishnuRajendranAmboo
@VishnuRajendranAmboo 2 ай бұрын
@@jasperverkuijl cool.. I guess as much.. thanks for info
@cyclistshub
@cyclistshub 3 ай бұрын
Jasper, thanks for putting your time, energy, and money into this factory tour. Don't let the haters ruin the taste of a job well done. 🎩👌 It's clear that without 3rd party support (Winspace), this video could not have been made because it would have cost thousands of dollars. And that's too much for an individual creator. - Petr
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! It may not even be about the money, it’s simply impossible to go inside these factories without an invite or brand that takes you in. So yeah, 100% I’m happy for the partnership and opportunity that Winspace provides. 👍🏻
@cyclistshub
@cyclistshub 3 ай бұрын
@@jasperverkuijl amen. 😅
@marquesreyes3287
@marquesreyes3287 2 ай бұрын
Don't let these Chinese fool you
@WanderingSword
@WanderingSword 2 ай бұрын
​@@marquesreyes3287you them fools that throw money at enve and zipp huh? Puto😅
@habana6595
@habana6595 3 ай бұрын
I'm riding my T1500 frame set and Hypers wheels since 3 years now and was probably the first in France to own them. Winspace is now my number one choice for frames and wheels ! I'm proud to ride Winspace !
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Nice!
@marquesreyes3287
@marquesreyes3287 2 ай бұрын
Lol, wait till you're forced to speak Mandarin
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Ni-hao
@BCERTA
@BCERTA 15 күн бұрын
you should bike to china :)
@hlim431
@hlim431 2 ай бұрын
The founder is still there... what a FANTASTIC video!!! NOT even a hint of arrogance in Stephen Tsai. Dank & Tot Zeins Jasper...
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
🙌🏻🙌🏻thank you
@hrisimirgrigorov
@hrisimirgrigorov 28 күн бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking too!
@williamcovey4162
@williamcovey4162 2 ай бұрын
I'M SOLD! I have been convinced that WINSPACE make a top-notch product that I would be proud to own! The decal on the bike does not tell you anything about the quality of the product. But this video certainly does! The wheel video is even better! THANK YOU JASPER AND WINSPACE!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🤙🏻🤙🏻
@2UpDuc
@2UpDuc 3 ай бұрын
Jasper. This is your calling. Amazing job on the mini documentary showing this process. Thanks to Winspace for letting you in and allowing you to film and ask questions.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@jm465
@jm465 2 ай бұрын
Don't be a traitor ;) you have Lynskey emblem I love that brand !!!! My go-to bike all the time
@SuperDodoe
@SuperDodoe 3 ай бұрын
Wow., hope they gave you a few bikes as this video will help many people make the decision to go with Winspace over other Chinese brands
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
I got to keep the black and white bike 🙌🏻
@MrYAMAHA32177
@MrYAMAHA32177 3 ай бұрын
For decades, the Chinese have been taught by name brand manufacturers on how to build these products along with all the tools needed. So it was only a matter of time for them to get in on the action. Back in the 1990s we were rebuilding vehicle trim and bumpers that required rechroming, it was a long and complex process that includes cleaning and dipping a specific part into a vat of chromium-based solution. As the new u.s. regulations started to take effect and drive up cost, it was no longer profitable for us. You could actually ship the parts to China to be rechromed and back cheaper than we could do the process here in the u.s. Thanks for the video Jasper!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Yep, al long as someone checks the quality and pays enough, they will make high quality stuff 👌
@paperwind392
@paperwind392 3 ай бұрын
Hey Jasper, This is a spectacular showcasing of Winspace product. I’m amazed of the quality control that the company employs for their components. You’re a great presenter!! Continue doing this. You have a knack of sharing stuff about cycling!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler 3 ай бұрын
I bought my first chinese branded carbon parts because of videos like this. Farsports handlebars and crw wheels. If i had seen this video first and not another, i may have gone winspace. Its clear there is a lot of high quality coming from china.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Farsports is a solid brand too!🤙🏻🤙🏻
@U.s.e.r.3493
@U.s.e.r.3493 3 ай бұрын
I know they choose what to show and tell, but still great to see
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
We where not allowed to go to the frame factory all week because they were producing other brand frames so sure, they won’t let us in. there wasn’t much I couldn’t show about Winspace or Lún. Just the other brands where kept out of the picture.
@BikesKomsCRO
@BikesKomsCRO 2 ай бұрын
​@@jasperverkuijldrop the names mate!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Cant haha. I’d like to go back one day to find out more and dig deeper 😜
@MrCyclist
@MrCyclist 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Jasper for the reporting. Never hurts to now more about quality and safety.
@dopeone700
@dopeone700 3 ай бұрын
Great job! Always like to see how the industry really works.
@jpvdw1961
@jpvdw1961 2 ай бұрын
Mon... S Works Tue... BMC Wed... Cannondale Thu... Pinarello Fri... day off
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
😂
@AndriyVaskovets
@AndriyVaskovets 2 ай бұрын
Jasper! Too much to ads to single producer. Is it a bad thing? Yes if you try to be a transparent video maker. Though you truly tried to make it as just a tour...
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Your opinion 👍🏻 “Just a tour” through these factories is not possible. You can’t go there if you’re not invited. I’m super clear about the fact I’m there on invitation of Winspace. Then show stuff you’ve never seen before. If you like it great, if you don’t, fine 🤙🏻 My conclusion stands, it doesn’t matter what company I use to get the inside scoop.
@Z3uS2
@Z3uS2 9 күн бұрын
Great to see videos like this! I'm very impressed with Winspace.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 7 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@user-ti9zc1xv2b
@user-ti9zc1xv2b 2 ай бұрын
Cant wait for Cannondale, Trek, Specialized to go bankrupt forever
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
That would also be a shame. They do lots of cool development too!🙌🏻 and they have super nice bikes. Just a bit expensive 😅
@William24009
@William24009 2 ай бұрын
Thank you and thank Winspace for the video.
@conceptcs
@conceptcs 3 ай бұрын
I don't think there is anything secretive about making any of these carbon frame. It's really down to craftmanship and attention to detail. It's not like these are semiconductors where there are trade secrets to making the most cutting edge and advanced chips.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
True. It’s a puzzle of carbon pieces that needs to be layed out. However the design and layup is very precise and what makes a good or bad bike with the same carbon…
@cesarvtiongco
@cesarvtiongco 2 ай бұрын
Winspace Bikes are sure a well designed and safe Bikes , but the problem in China is that theres a lot of bike makers who are doing fake bikes and you dont know now which is real or not..
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Sure you do, just buy off an official Winspace dealer or straight from their website and you will have the real deal 🤙🏻
@kayBi62
@kayBi62 2 ай бұрын
Love this great docu. It helps me decide my choice. TQ
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@stravasean8187
@stravasean8187 3 ай бұрын
Terrific video Jasper!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@valmorell
@valmorell 3 ай бұрын
This is all SO labour intensive that I would advise anyone considering a Winspace or similar frame to buy it now, as prices MUST rise....
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
All carbon bikes are like this until they find a way to do it with a machine (they probably will in the future
@blue-wanderer4392
@blue-wanderer4392 3 ай бұрын
This video makes me buy alloy frames. ^^
@pablofcasal5416
@pablofcasal5416 3 ай бұрын
you should have asked them if there was going to be a "SLC3.0" with T47BB!!! Indeed, thanks for the video.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
The slc3 is coming. Probably with t47 like the new 1550gen2 but I’m not sure. Some people are negative about t47 so I don’t know if it’s a good thing 🤷🏼‍♂️
@theferry6464
@theferry6464 2 ай бұрын
thanks Jasper, i think this is very worthful information. Make us aware of what needs to be considered in selecting the products. Thanks for Winspace for willing to open their process.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks 🙏
@Pixel10Bro
@Pixel10Bro 3 ай бұрын
20:11 - USSR flag :o
@CleberLimaSilva
@CleberLimaSilva 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Really nice and kudos for Winspace to show this
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip 👌
@henrychungfitness
@henrychungfitness 3 ай бұрын
Loved the intro! Thanks for sharing 👍
@Vova607
@Vova607 2 ай бұрын
Im not sold. T800 material is quite cheap and lots of similar bikes are much cheaper. Usually bikes made of t800 carbon fibers are soft and heavy simultaneously. That's just a winspace promo. Se si
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 2 ай бұрын
Enjoy your 15,000 dollar bike
@Vova607
@Vova607 2 ай бұрын
@@brucegelman5582 will do it with pleasure, wish a long lasting life to your chinarello, but I doubt it does. And again bikes made of t800 are twice cheaper. But I don't remember who else besides Ali bikes produce their bikes using that kind of materials. Even Yoeleo claims their bikes are made of t1100 toray, which is well used among the brands.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
It’s all bullshit mate. According to Stephen, smaller brands can’t even get their hands on T1000 grade carbon because it’s also used in military etc and there is limited supply. A frame is usually a mix of different grades carbon. And the brand will proudly mention using T1000 or 1100 when they maybe use a piece of it in the frame (or not and just claim they do…) but it won’t be the complete bike from that material. T800 isn’t cheap, T1000 is just much more expensive. The new agile and SLC of Winspace use T1000 and new carbon technology to get a high end frame. The Winspace t1550 is notoriously stiff actually so not sure what you are talking about it being soft and heavy….
@AlbertBuckinghamEllison
@AlbertBuckinghamEllison 2 ай бұрын
My T1550 (White and black) Disk frame is due to arrive any day now. Can't wait to build it up and race the hell out of it. I ride in England which is notorious for terrible roads with constant rough tarmac, temperamental weather and technical roads. So build quality matters to me. The world needs to know about Winspace and they need to keep their prices where they are and their quality where it is and they'll quickly be ridden globally.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Awesome man. Use some wide tires on those English roads 😜 Have fun!🤙🏻🤙🏻
@farilhou
@farilhou 22 күн бұрын
Non existent warranty and support, winspace products are very good, especially the wheels, but I wouldn't use or recommend it yo anyone because there's no support if you ever need.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 22 күн бұрын
How do you mean? You can get in touch with them about warranty etc through chat on website and email
@phamkhiem7689
@phamkhiem7689 2 ай бұрын
I liked and subscribed to your channel because of this video. It was wonderful, a meaningful trip.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you! Welcome to the channel 🙌🏻
@jonphotos8631
@jonphotos8631 3 ай бұрын
Great job man!!!!!!
@jasoncampbell7204
@jasoncampbell7204 2 ай бұрын
Great video, super culture in the office & factory as well. I would love to implement a nap time at work!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Yep, common practice in China 👍🏻
@Rechkalov7
@Rechkalov7 2 ай бұрын
Isn't carbon fiber dangerous to manipulate with bare hands and lungs? This is what i heard.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
If you start grinding or sawing it is smart to wear a proper mask
@thedronescene7474
@thedronescene7474 3 ай бұрын
The fatigue test is also not for every handlebar. Is only for random selected handlebars.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Thats what the CEO said🤷🏼‍♂️ The drop test is only for some because the bars get destroyed. The fatigue test is for all of them
@thedronescene7474
@thedronescene7474 3 ай бұрын
@@jasperverkuijl I honestly believe he got kind of confuse and said yes not realizing what the question actually was.
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 ай бұрын
​​@@jasperverkuijlthat guy also said a handlebar is made of only two layers of carbon fiber. It seemed like he didn't know all the manufacturing details. The R&D guy was more knowledgeable about the manufacturing.
@bopndop2347
@bopndop2347 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Jasper; very interesting and I will consider Winspace for my next bike.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Awesome 👏
@olo398
@olo398 3 ай бұрын
Amazing to see Winspace dealer network now. I remember watching Joes (China Cycling) vid when he worked for Winspace years ago, good on them.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Yup. Joe was my first connection with Winspace and I still talk to him 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@occyman
@occyman 3 ай бұрын
Great report mate… I really love the triggered people making comments about where their frames are made refusing to accept that 99% of frames (and other carbon cycling products) are ALL made in China.
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 ай бұрын
Huh? Everybody knows they are made in China ( except for just a few Time/Look fanatics)
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I know man. If you want to have fun, go to my Instagram and read the comments on the trailer 🤷🏼‍♂️🤯
@ATDreamLand
@ATDreamLand 3 ай бұрын
When comes to manufacturing, China is at another level. Thank you for doing this documentary. BTW, u forgot to mention your 3rd job - pilot.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
I figure I keep it cycling related 😜
@francescocappelletti-s6q
@francescocappelletti-s6q 8 күн бұрын
interesting and disappointing at the same time:-) Loved the production processes of a top spech factory but it would be spicier to know about real Chinarello's 🙂
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 7 күн бұрын
I try to stay away from them actually
@endtimeslips4660
@endtimeslips4660 3 ай бұрын
got agile in a hand. it great bike.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Awesome! Build it up yet??
@endtimeslips4660
@endtimeslips4660 3 ай бұрын
@@jasperverkuijl i had it about 3 month ago if im not wrong. it very good bike. for senior rider agile is the best middle ground. because our back not as strong as before agile very forgiving the curve on top tube work very well it like tremor absorber. i love climbing ride agile geometry make shoulder more relax. the bottom bracket section is the best. i think because it very bulky on the bottom bracket. it give very good stability and when we rocking the bike it feel very responsive i feel very powerful when do dance.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@amanfess8782
@amanfess8782 24 күн бұрын
great video. I am going to visit shanghai in a few weeks. Do you think one could save money by buying carbon frame road bikes in China as opposed to the US? Working with a budget of $1500.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 23 күн бұрын
You mean buy it it China vs us, or buying us brand va Chinese brand? 1500 won’t get you a carbon bike. So try to get one (rim brake) second hand, or buy aluminum instead. Watch my bike build video of my Winspace SLC2, it has a price breakdown too.
@TESTA-CC
@TESTA-CC 3 ай бұрын
WINSPACE FANCY SENDING US A BIKE 🖖👍
@lossantoscity3249
@lossantoscity3249 2 ай бұрын
A bit off Topic but not Really! Fox Racing Suspensions and DNM Shocks is manufactured in the same street! LOL
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Haha oh really!? Nice (same street, so you know here this is😎)
@spoon0857
@spoon0857 Ай бұрын
well....1st set for test sample is different than rest of production standard.....well, been there done that.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl Ай бұрын
What do you mean? The first example is obviously always different than the mass production end product
@exequielvergara1112
@exequielvergara1112 26 күн бұрын
Lun grapide gravel wheel set here in the Philippines is around 40,000 - 42,000 pesos.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 25 күн бұрын
Is that a lot or not? I have no idea
@goonscheres8859
@goonscheres8859 13 күн бұрын
Geweldige video. Rij al sinds 2016 op chineese frames. Een frame (Carbonda gravelracer) al 8 jaar mee gefietst en niet zuinig mee geweest. Recentelijk met 18kg bagage mee naar Santiago de Compestela gefietst. Geen enkel probleem. Mijn motto is dan ook "Ik betaal niet voor stickers". Volgens mij is dat ook de reden dat je niet op die andere afdelingen mag kijken. Daar liggen waarschijnlijk teveel stickers van bekende merken😁. Moet ook wel lachen om de naïviteit van een artikel zoals recent (sept 2024) in Fietssport over de van Rysel fiets. "Omdat ze zo groot zijn kunnen ze zo goed inkopen!" Duh. Laat me raden waar ze dat inkopen doen.🤣
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 10 күн бұрын
Ik heb eigenlijk alle afdelingen gezien maar mag er alleen niks over zeggen 😂😂
@mattschm5486
@mattschm5486 26 күн бұрын
4 in chinese is the same sound like death. Just slightly different pronunciation (tone)
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 23 күн бұрын
Ah, not good!
@Chris-iv2ud
@Chris-iv2ud 3 ай бұрын
People often mixed China's knockoff frame as same as legit brand from China like Winspace, they are totally different thing. Glad to see more brands starting to show how they made their bikes. Giant, Time, Factor and now Winspace, when come to making carbon bikes and components, far east is the master. Don't really see much Western or Europe "Prestige" brand doing this as they have their production line outsourced to far east as well, Pinarello literally release a "How we painted our frame in Italy that came from far east" LMAO.
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 3 ай бұрын
Time frames are made in Slovakia, but they're the exception to the rule. 3T make SOME of their frames in Italy. Colnago as well (the tour riders on colnago are on Chinese made colnago)
@Chris-iv2ud
@Chris-iv2ud 3 ай бұрын
@@pierrex3226 I know, Time is still making their own frame, look as well. 3T Im not familiar with. C68 seem made in Italy according to Colnago. Bianchi recently shifts some of the production back to Italy as well.
@martijnmast6376
@martijnmast6376 3 ай бұрын
Especially liked the part where she hammers the bottom bracket into place.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
😂 needs a tight fit!! 🫡🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@abalabal8732
@abalabal8732 3 ай бұрын
Need some hawk tuah then
@lookatthisworld7351
@lookatthisworld7351 Ай бұрын
I'd like to see the carbon mountain bike productions
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl Ай бұрын
They don’t do Mtb unfortunately
@ekoisme
@ekoisme 3 ай бұрын
So basically, we are riding the stickers 😅
@pigupigu
@pigupigu 3 ай бұрын
This isn't news.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean? Riding the stickers?
@Sam321go
@Sam321go 3 ай бұрын
@@jasperverkuijl he means that they just stick big layers (sticker) together
@konigsegg_1to1
@konigsegg_1to1 3 ай бұрын
@@Sam321goor that the brand (Winspace, scott, whatever) doesn’t make the bike, and so one winspace bike is not made the same as another (different factories), and the only thing that they “own” is the sticker on the side of the bike. No hate to winspace tho as I own a t1550
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Well I believe that the brand designs the bike and sets specs for the frame. The factory has the knowledge to do the correct layup to meet these specs. So different specs from different brands will make different bikes. So no, they are not all the same with a different sticker. Even though they come from the same factory. (Check my other part of the documentary for more about this!)
@Simon-Simon-Simon
@Simon-Simon-Simon 3 ай бұрын
wish paint jobs HATE TO SAY - MORE SIMPLE pinarello silver and black inner faces where dirt is few 3d gloss silver/pink or red/blue
@nochancecw
@nochancecw 2 ай бұрын
Its very cool seeing the craftspersonship while making the frame.
@neilzhang1514
@neilzhang1514 Ай бұрын
Riding like this in China roads, very wrong and risky
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl Ай бұрын
It all went well 👍🏻
@PatrickDelorenzi
@PatrickDelorenzi 2 ай бұрын
Great documentary and highly informative, thanks
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! 🫡
@vinscarter7118
@vinscarter7118 28 күн бұрын
Does someone know the adress of them in Xiamen ?
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 27 күн бұрын
Of who? Winspace? The frame factory? The handlebar factory? The rim manufacturer? We visited multiple places
@meirdeaph
@meirdeaph 13 күн бұрын
Awesome 👍
@tristarsourcing6221
@tristarsourcing6221 Ай бұрын
Hi Tony!
@nolypatrickmonreal8032
@nolypatrickmonreal8032 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this content Jasper. Keep making more, We’ll gladly watch.
@byondhorizon3576
@byondhorizon3576 2 ай бұрын
show bikes.. not just both of your faces :D
@michaelknibb4460
@michaelknibb4460 3 ай бұрын
Very informative 👏 and the still make a rim break frame
@Dix0r
@Dix0r 2 ай бұрын
Mate of mine got send in 3 (!) T1550 frames before he had a actual good one . Lack of quality control? Also hearing from bad customer service after 2 years for a replacement fork (which isn't available anymore). Despite this brand marketing video through a bike influencer, It still makes me doubt to buy one of these. Change my mind.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
There are always some negative experiences so I won’t deny whatever you’re saying. (Look at all the problems big brands like trek, Cannondale and socialized goes through so it’s not specific for Winspace..) I can only say what I’ve seen was very good and you can maybe try further with customer support
@bendeblok4948
@bendeblok4948 2 ай бұрын
Geeewellldig Jasper 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼ik heb me vaak afgevraagd hoe deze frames gemaakt werden
@ptewilks2634
@ptewilks2634 3 ай бұрын
why the underling music oh the content is not enough
@6ft8incyclist
@6ft8incyclist Ай бұрын
Why no 63cm Frames How about us tall riders
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl Ай бұрын
Probably because China doesn’t have that many people that are that big so the market is so small for that size, the cost (a new mold, layup, testing etc) won’t live up to the revenue of a few sold bikes… (I think that is the reason..)
@gios3151
@gios3151 Күн бұрын
@@jasperverkuijlI’m 6’ 3” and the 540 T1500 it ok for me. If I had known I would have ordered an extra set of spacers fit the bars (also Winspace) as I could do with the bars slightly higher.
@MrGTO-ze7vb
@MrGTO-ze7vb 2 ай бұрын
Excellent tour Jasper..!!! Thank you Winspace..!!! They make frames for Giant, Trek and many other name brands. Please check the bottom brackets for a perfect fit …. Hambini will be happy…. LOL
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean.. ? they don’t produce for giant or trek…
@Oilyhands749
@Oilyhands749 2 ай бұрын
Sheer determination to produce exceptional products Really impressed with this, thank you and thank you winspace 👌
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Glad you like it!
@seanwise7464
@seanwise7464 3 ай бұрын
🎵 I’m number 1. I did it before. I’ll do it again…. I’m number 1! 🎵
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully they will be a major tour sponsor and people will stop thinking chinese frames are junk...maybe
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
They are sponsoring a women’s team. They did Giro this year and are looking to get into the Tour de France next year 🙌🏻
@Rechkalov7
@Rechkalov7 2 ай бұрын
It's the same in the japanese culture for the number four. Chi, number 4 is very unlucky.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
🙌🏻👍🏻
@mettflow2648
@mettflow2648 8 күн бұрын
21:34 my man reppin dat 1:1 Moncler like a boss
@MLGq8
@MLGq8 2 ай бұрын
i have g2 xs for a year now and bought it for 900$ use it with 105 r7000 with 2 wheel sets one alu with 35 panarecer for gravel and the other one is lun 45 with 25 conti just ordered slc 2.0 for only 1030$ and i will put my lun in it . love winspace ❤
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Nice!
@cazat
@cazat 3 ай бұрын
“can we show some machine not working?" "Errh...no..." 😂why am I getting a Borat vibe...
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Hahahaha it was quite funny actually
@Niggoification
@Niggoification 3 ай бұрын
Great work Jasper!!! Also great from Winspace, definitely the leading Chinese bike brand in the western market right now!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@colinvincent6599
@colinvincent6599 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Dustydayzz
@Dustydayzz 3 ай бұрын
as much as chris seems cool...every piece is not even remotely believable,,,
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
What part is not believable?
@Dustydayzz
@Dustydayzz 3 ай бұрын
@@jasperverkuijl the stress test for every handlebar. they make so many of them when will they ever finish packing them if they gotta wait 10000 cycles for each
@pinkbearoscar
@pinkbearoscar 3 ай бұрын
I worked in the manufacturing industry. This test is carried out in the R&D stage. If every single piece is tested, he probably meant every prototype. If this is a part of production QC, not every single one will be tested.
@Dustydayzz
@Dustydayzz 3 ай бұрын
@@pinkbearoscar Oh ok got it...👍
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
It’s what he told me. Tbh We were kind of questioning it and tried to calculate how many they would have to do in a day. I’m going to ask again 👍🏻 I am SURE that every handlebar and front fork is checked by X-ray! They have a massive new X-ray machine now in operation
@lesterwagner4016
@lesterwagner4016 3 ай бұрын
Jasper!! So very well done! Thank you, Love this!
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 ай бұрын
Cool. Thanks for all the work this took I wonder if the production factory company name was Adapt... Or Speeder .. or something else? (I know you cant/won't tell us)
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Not it was a different one 😜
@rmb_dev
@rmb_dev 2 ай бұрын
They need an endurance frame! With threaded BB, external cables and 40 mm tyre clearance guess what - they will dominate the mass market. With race frames, it's not the case. Personally, I will buy two, for myself and my dad. Riding their pair of wheels for 3 seasons now, very satisfied.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
The c5 is their endurance bike. Just launched recently
@nickdalamagas3540
@nickdalamagas3540 3 ай бұрын
Great vid Jas. You’re a natural👌Very educational & informative production buddy. I’ve been a Winspace fan for many years. Solid & trustworthy company. Hope they continue their great work 👍💪👍
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@alexsalapantan-j6u
@alexsalapantan-j6u 2 ай бұрын
thank you Jasper for this very informative video ❤🚴🏻‍♀
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@Angieboy173
@Angieboy173 2 ай бұрын
Hell yes. I would definitely consider purchasing one of these. Great video.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
You should!🙌🏻🙌🏻
@TheLesgumes
@TheLesgumes 2 ай бұрын
lol, nothing new here. Everything is made is china, not just carbon wheels.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Still Most people don’t know or think their favorite brand has its own factory in their own country..
@dm5rkt
@dm5rkt 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for a very interesting video. Couldn't help noticing this: 13:26: lady in Winspace's own factory is wearing double gloves while handling epoxy prepreg. 31:19 lady in 3rd party frame factory is not using any gloves at all while handling prepreg. Wonder if this is some new type of prepreg ;-)
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t know tbh. Guess they should all be using gloves. I didn’t know it was a thing when I was there
@dongmr4735
@dongmr4735 2 ай бұрын
Riding a bicycle on a motorway? Seriously?😂
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Everything for the right shot😜 It wasn’t a “motorway”. Just a bigger road but not that high speeds and lots of stop signs etc
@laszlolalusz2222
@laszlolalusz2222 17 күн бұрын
Hello Jasper how are you doing today? Listen,I have a question for you.I want to order a frame set and a handlebar ,but I don’t know the exact size,could you help me please? Frames:Agile red and black. Handlebar: Zero SL.Thanks everything.
@laszlolalusz2222
@laszlolalusz2222 17 күн бұрын
I’m 6.1 means 185cm.without shoes. Thx
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 16 күн бұрын
Do you have another bike currently? You can compare the stack and reach tables of the frames.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 16 күн бұрын
I have a SLC 2 and T1550 in size L and I’m about the same height. So I’m think L
@laszlolalusz2222
@laszlolalusz2222 16 күн бұрын
@@jasperverkuijl Hey Jasper,yes I have a Specialized Tarmac size 58. Stem size 120,handlebar size 420.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 16 күн бұрын
​​⁠ sounds like a very big hike for you? I find 58 quite big for myself. Also bars can be narrower. 40 would be good. 38 possibly if you’re flexible and want to be aero. Again, compare the geo tables 👍🏻
@n.eilo_rides
@n.eilo_rides 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video Jasper. I have 2 sets of Winspace wheels, I needed parts recently, contacted Winspace directly and they sent me a new hub straight away. The Agile is top runner for my next frame
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
That’s great to hear mate! 🙌🏻🙌🏻 don’t forget that code 👉🏻 cyclingfanatics 🤙🏻
@matkrek
@matkrek 3 ай бұрын
Makes me even happier with my winspace T1550 purchase!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 3 ай бұрын
Nice!
@syazwanabdull4835
@syazwanabdull4835 2 ай бұрын
Congratulation Jasper new ambasador Winspace
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Ive been with Winspace for years. Nothing new 🤙🏻🤙🏻
@letdoit
@letdoit Ай бұрын
Height test, he said 550cm, but your wording show is 550mm*
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl Ай бұрын
yes its on purpose, that's the correction on what Stephen said. He said 550cm but meant 550mm (55 cm)
@MTCycling
@MTCycling 2 ай бұрын
Winspace is one of those Chinese brand you can fully trust they are transparent has a very nice costumer service and if you need frame replacement they are willing to replace it asap as long as you described to them how you damage the frame, you just need to be honest with them.
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Great to hear your positive thoughts 🤙🏻
@jaibhardwaj4886
@jaibhardwaj4886 2 ай бұрын
Damn, I remember you from that canyon crash video. It's been a long journey
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Long time ago!
@qwertyazerty2137
@qwertyazerty2137 3 ай бұрын
15:39 what kind of QC is this if even on this unfocused shot you can see that the thickness of the wall is uneven? It's not even round. Top notch PR for selecting a faulty item for promotional video. 👌
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 2 ай бұрын
Looks fine to me. Maybe you are looking at the edge burr or something.
@MJLStudios
@MJLStudios 2 ай бұрын
how do they smoothen the internal frame from having sharp unfinished spikes?
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
The latex inside makes it super smooth
@kwtay1746
@kwtay1746 3 ай бұрын
Why don't you also mention western brand name carbon bikes that fell apart!
@jasperverkuijl
@jasperverkuijl 2 ай бұрын
Why? That wasn’t the point of this video… I’m not sure what you mean or where you want to go..?
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