Jaycen Joshua ORION Plugin | First Contact with the Cradle Plugin

[@StratsRUs]

Everything everywhere is a Gamechanger !!

[@2probeats]

Haha

[@T-BOUNCING]

😂😂😂 SIMPLICITY WILL GIVE BIRTH TO MORE WACK AUDIO ENGINEERS MOVING FORWARD 😂😂

[@NuskotheProducer139]

Everytime i watch your videos you inspire me like a lot bro and i do really appreciate the effort you put and continue be humble .....i really like you❤🎉

[@2probeats]

Thank you!

[@OverdriveMusic]

Love the new studio

[@2probeats]

Thanks!

[@Cefshah]

Great video as always!! 🙂💙💙💙

[@2probeats]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@GxkMix]

It looks easy and practical to use, a great tool for people like me who don't like to clutter their projects. However, it didn't give me a 'wow' feeling like God Particle, but I think I will get it. Good luck!

[@2probeats]

Good point!

[@SPD87327]

Make sure to keep using it, the more you do, the more you’ll figure out how to finesse the plugin to fit your needs. Make sure to read the manual in the support page of cradles site

[@iamjohnblack]

Been waiting for this plug-in 😀

[@2probeats]

You and me both!

[@mixbygygyondbeat1295]

Great job like always. Proud of you. But does this mean JJ no longer use his other Processing like the NLS buss, Transformer 1 & 2 on his drum buss. But use just Orion?

[@2probeats]

That’s the claim 😬

[@contraspower6302]

Man how do u export stems in studio one? I have parallel processing on bus channel and i want one stem that include parallel processing. But channel track export doesn't allow me to export Bus channel with parallel processing.

[@ShynAwkward]

People have been requesting 'Professional' stem export options for YEARS, but Presonus refuse to listen to basic feature requests, even though every other DAW has this feature. Every "grouped/processed stem" has to be rendered individually/manually in Studio One - which will add hours of unnecessary labour on large media projects. You may just have to find a better DAW from a company that actually listens to their customer's *Professional* needs...

[@contraspower6302]

@@ShynAwkward i wish they will give that in studio one 7

[@khoivinh3402]

Print all you inst out. And use that as stems, not sure if that works in studio One!!

[@RegYoungBeats]

As a producer, this is helpful to me to get to a sound quicker with fewer plugins...or I could just not be lazy and put together an effect chain...haha

[@IAMCORNHOLIOINEEDTP]

Thanks for testing. But the plugin is not such an eye opener as the God Particle plugin ... for 79 Dollerz no added value what other saturation plugins can already do.

[@2probeats]

I’ll have a breakdown of the plugin sometimes soon. The plugin does nothing new but it’s all in a single place.

[@kickandsnareproductions536]

True. Tested it so far against my 2/3 drum bus plugins and it does nothing more than I can achieve through my chain. Yes it does it all in one place but both the presets and the single knobs didn’t do anything that impressive

[@Mike_Benz_]

The God Particle you are basically paying for a Multi-Band Compressor with his preset settings fixed into it, a saturation tool that is one knob so his preset settings baked in, and a Limiter with his preset settings fixed in. This is why you should mix into it, it will only sound good when you put signals the presets sound best/good on into it. You can do this with the plugins you already have and you will end up with very similar results because you are going to manipulate the sounds in ways that will end up with a similar frequency balance that you like the sound of.

[@miletonegotit]

The goal of the plugin is to give you access to jaycen joshua's drum bus processing, not to be different. The God Particle too was just his whole izotope Ozone masterchain and his NLS in one plugin, not something out of the ordinary. They're goot at the simple things they do.

[@royalinvasionproductionstv6370]

Anyone know what freq the HPF is set to when turned on?

[@Kiki_a_hazban]

around 40hz

[@ProdGreener]

Damn bro that was quick

[@2probeats]

Haha - i stumbled upon the demo on the cradle hub and since I was going to try it out why not make a video 😂

[@d-zone]

is this a paid product review?

[@2probeats]

No, this is me using the demo and trying out the plugin for the first time. “First contact”. A paid video is going to be marked

[@quantika72]

A little more of the same type of plugin 🤙🏼

[@2probeats]

You don’t feel this one is different? Not many all-in-one drum bus plugins

[@wdkbeats]

Sounds cool, but look how much CPU it eats 😱

[@2probeats]

I haven’t checked but since this is 1.0 i expect it to be improved

[@LaidbackSounds]

@@2probeats 18 percent cpu for orion in studio 1 on mac m1 processor , same as god particle after 2 years so no it might no change

[@MarkyGoldstein]

Final comparison should always be loudness adjusted, just sayin

[@2probeats]

That's true

[@ludwig3808]

The brand new magic wand

[@2probeats]

You don’t like magic?

[@DevishMend]

Seems to be very CPU hungry 🧐 Anyway - THX for the quick peek on this!

[@papatoni3311]

meh - ill pass on this one

[@maximemorin5527]

Ahhhh « game changer »

[@2probeats]

Forgot the question mark brother

[@Watavu]

[@2probeats]

💙

[@diamonddistrictstudios]

This plugin is mid at best. Not much special about it to be honest - I will wait to see other reviews and perhaps a demonstration from Jaycen J and see how he uses it. So far not sold on it.

[@tonygunz21]

That's pretty much every plugin these days. At this point, it seems like we keep getting a bunch of repackaged stuff, or lumping together a bunch of different processors into one plugin.

[@2probeats]

Why do you feel this is mid? I know what the plugin is trying to “emulate” - all plugins used in series and in parallele by Jaycen and I think it’s a great concept even if it’s not revolutionary.

[@diamonddistrictstudios]

@@2probeats I understand your view on this plugin, however for the amount of hype and marketing effort put into it VS what the plugin actually delivered from this demo and a few others on YT so far - the 2 dont match. I, like you & many others own the God Particle which is great but this plugin gives off the vibe similar to many of the "magic bullet" Big Mixer plugins from Waves. Thank you for making the review though, love & respect from Cape Town, South Africa

[@NickWaves]

I got better results running this on parallel rather than inserting it on my drum-bus channel. I strongly suggest you try that.

[@SPD87327]

Oh that’s awesome bro. If you want run it parallel, then use the waves mv2 and squash it

[@rickyonthebeatuk]

turn the reverb down from them hats man, was painful to listen too

[@SPD87327]

I don’t think he could, i think it might’ve been apart of the drum loop. But I’m not a protools user so I can’t tell

[@paulmisty8998]

I had the original template from ProTools and copied the drum aux + parallels with plugins other than waves. I tried Orion and wow - am I disappointed. It sounds stupidly bad. There are just no words to describe it. It's the same low quality plugins like most of those "all in one plugins". Wow, and this took like one year. I'm so disappointed. Would not even use it for free.

[@mxynx]

Could have sworn I saw this exact comment on Matty Harris page lol

[@paulmisty8998]

@@mxynx I did not change my opinion so copy/paste made sense :D

[@mxynx]

@@paulmisty8998 I feel you brother. Thought I had a dejavu moment there

[@paulmisty8998]

@@mxynx it was real bro

[@badbearbill]

Why not have real drums?

[@badmanproducer7008]

hmmmmm cradle plugins are too cpu heavy and hungry yet with a little impact

[@SPD87327]

Depends on your machine and daw. Most mac, and protools users have reported to no issue. So idk why it affects mostly other daws. They’re def working on it tho

[@therearenoruleshere]

Lol naw

[@GDNZDONNY]

Honestly just sounds like an exciter to me. It’s cool, but…..

[@xyxyxyxza2252]

reverb of drums ignoring too much

[@Reda.94]

BS plugins for beginners , not even for their benefit

[@SPD87327]

It’s not just for beginners nor mostly marketed to them. Just because you’re an intermediate/pro doesn’t mean you have to be in control of every tiny perimeter. Simplicty usually wins over tedious mindless over complicated processes. But hey to each their own lol 😅 some people are just weird control freaks when it comes to the music they produce/mix. Not saying you btw not at all, I just meant in terms of other engineers I’ve talked to. I really don’t get why they’re like that sometimes. 🤔

[@bluematrix5001]

For what I see and hear here is just nothing special, actually is very limited, but for many inexperienced people is a shortcut to enhance your drums, and a tool that have may processes in a single Plugin...for me seems to be a marketing buzz.....just another plugin or tool...but easily you can mix without it.

[@2probeats]

It’s the sound of Jaycen Joshua. That’s the marketing 😂.

[@bluematrix5001]

@@2probeats sure, the problem with plugins is that the placebo effx is huge, you test it, you say is cool, and in few weeks is not so awesome and if a couple of months you rarely or never use it … have to be shockingly great or a game changer to buy it

[@T-BOUNCING]

😂😂SIMPLICITY MOVING FORWARD WILL GIVE BIRTH TO MORE WACK ENGINEERS 😂😂😂😂

[@SPD87327]

You don’t need to tweak every tiny parameter. It’s simple because it’s based on Jaycens workflow, and it’s really not that hard to mix electronic drums anyways, this is here simply to take your drums to a polished sound quicker.

[@gecharo]

very cpu heavy. try before you buy

[@pulsarstar]

Let's see what this knob does: .......Nothing Let's see what this knob does..........Nothing. But it is a drum mix chain of top shelf engineer. Wait, I think I can hear now. No, I can't.

[@SPD87327]

Do you even have ears bro? Jk PLEASE 🙏 but fr he was making a different in the sound. Maybe try it out for yourself and watch other reviews!

[@pulsarstar]

@SPD87327 I got my ears bruh! Nice and shiny bruh! Joke a side, after trying it on my mix, I gotta say, I take my words back. It indeed does the magic touch.