Used Car Bargain: The Peugeot 407 Coupe is Better Than You Think

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JayEmm on Cars

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Today, the Peugeot 407 Coupe! Taking over from the generally well loved 406 coupe, the 407 got a battering from the motoring press - it wasn't pretty, and they weren't impressed with how it drove. But I reckon they've missed the point.
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@James_08_07
@James_08_07 Жыл бұрын
You may not love the comparison, but it is honestly a compliment. These videos take me back to the early days of watching Top Gear repeats on Dave, a simpler and a happier time. Thank you.
@ikhoonyejelem2967
@ikhoonyejelem2967 Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@martinmcdonald4207
@martinmcdonald4207 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, lazy afternoons on the couch! Splendid.
@RUfromthe40s
@RUfromthe40s Жыл бұрын
the guys on topgear did make a point when peugout ,thought that they would be affected by their statement about the show and we could seee the cars not being able to turn like in a slow-motion movie , it was fun
@alexjaybrady
@alexjaybrady Жыл бұрын
It only suffers next to the timeless proportions of the 406coupe
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you take really interesting “forgotten” cars like this Peugeot and review them. More of the same please. Ps. I have owned several French cars down the years and to keep costs down, always booked service and repairs in France when I went on holiday there.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
I am always looking for unusual stuff!
@RUfromthe40s
@RUfromthe40s Жыл бұрын
In my country is the most sold brand either than Renault ,or high-end cars from mercedes ,BMW or Toyota. Jaguar didn´t make it because ,when buying a new car one would think ,"Oh, this car must be bad the toyota high-end van is more expensive ", "Agreed my Mazda which is longer cost me more 10.000€", Here the ones who make some money and buy a car because it´s more expensive than it´s neighboor next door new car, and some years ago Jaguar was selling their cars cheap ,in a regular country it would be a reason to sell more cars but here in Portugal people buy the cars if they are more expensive to show to others that they have more money. Some years ago the "S´s" from Mercedes were rare to see ,i had two but when driving a 73 one, people would look and ask if it was the newer model from Mercedes it looked a litle better than the 300D or W123, this in early 80´s . If i dare say that it got a V8 engine, i would be in trouble because "V8´s only in America" . At the time in average Portuguese would have cars under 70 H.p. . Being a second hand car seller as a second source of income i remenber buying cheap a Fiat UNO but it said on the side Panel "70" wich means that the car would have 70 H.P. and it were the first UNO´s that came out ,people were amazed by how much power the car got, in late 80´s i had a Mazda RX-7 bought in the netherlands to a friend of mine was not a 2+2 but a two seat car the finishings seemed years ahead of the 2+2 which was kind of ridiculous ,i had a friend who was always saying to me that he would like to have a Mazda like mine but when i opened my mouth and said it had a 1.3L wankel engine, he would look and say "it´s not possible" and in 87 there was no unleaded fuel in Portugal ,only regular and super but when i opened the door of the gasoline deposit it would say in big letter "only unleaded fuel" because no one knew what unleaded fuel was i used to put super which had more octanes, but "Katalizador, what is that"and by that time there was no inspection on cars only in the 90´s and in 94 i was driving a 74 w114 but bought in germany and it had portuguese plates but from 1983 ,once a roadpatrol asked for my papers and before leting me go the soldier said ,"in two years you have to take it to inspection, this was a very undeveloped country, i had a lot of friends from abroad that in the summer they would come to south Portuguese beaches but to show their kids how their country was 50 years ago . There were giant beaches in the south but Atlantic coast, that one could drive through out the coast and it was rare to see a Portuguese family ,only the ones that were fisherman´s and lived in litle villages by the sea . If a porshe 911 (which was rare)apeared people would say "it as a VW engine" ,a kid that his father had lot´s of money when studying and 18 he took his driver permit and his father bought him a porshe 900 and something that had a big sticker in the back in orange saying 80 in black that meant that one in his first year of driver´s permit couldn´t drive above 80 km´s hour and everyday in school people would make fun of him ,first a porshe that could drive faster than 80 km/h thahn the engine sound "it´s a VW engine" .The main car of an agriculture worker and owner of the lands was a 504 from Peugeot, mainly diesel engines but some had the 2.0L engine but some also had the 404 or the 504 sport coupé or convertible wich is rare today, a Pininfarina car
@weeevilswine
@weeevilswine Жыл бұрын
What’s the reason for getting it serviced in France? Better service?
@RUfromthe40s
@RUfromthe40s Жыл бұрын
@@weeevilswine cheaper
@PKDionysus
@PKDionysus Жыл бұрын
I've owned a 3.0 v6 Coupe for the past 5 years, and put around 70k+ km on the clock, and have loved every single kilometer. It is supremely comfortable, surprisingly engaging to drive, and once I familiarised myself with all its quirks and isms, it became an absolute blast to drive somewhat aggressively. Aerodynamically, this thing is amazing. On even the slightest of hills/declines, it picks up speed surprisingly quickly, and you can almost feel it slicing its way through the air. I've driven in excess of 1000km in a trip more than once, with a break or two, and owing to how insulated the cabin in, I arrived home without any aches, pains or major fatigue - it was incredible. The frameless doors however do result in wind noise being something of an issue, and the petrol engine could do with 20nm more of torque, but other than that, I love it. It has been my daily for 5 years, and whilst it does love a drink in the city (I live in a small town, in which intersections are so frequent, you may as well give up on driving economically) but I have managed to get 780km on a single tank, with city and highway driving. Considering how the car has a 67l tank, with quoted figures of 10l/100km combined, I actually did pretty well. Running costs have been pretty decent, and I have gotten away with doing 3 major services, and a single minor service in the 70k km. Fuel costs have been a different story, but with the enjoyment I derive from driving the car, I really don't care. The satnav doesn't work, but that's only because the South African government did not purchase the map rights, so the stock head unit never had nav - a discovery that tore me in half because other than a million buttons, in dash navigation was what I adored about the 407. The 407 Coupe has been my favourite since I saw one in 2006, as my brother drove me home from school, and we saw a silver one driving up the road. I fell in love the moment I saw that long nose, and 12 years later when I was walking through town, I saw the one I currently own on the dealer lot, staring at her. It felt like her headlights followed me - like a pair of eyes - and I fell in love. I kept looking back to see if she still there as I walked along the road, and just knew that I had to have her. Fast forward a few weeks, and as I sat in the driver's seat for the first time as her owner, I wrapped my hands around the steering wheel and wept. It was a moment I will never forget, not least because two minutes later, I crashed into the gate of my building's underground lot as I drove out. Anyway, this wasn't supposed to be nearly as long as it turned out to be. What I actually wanted to say was, Peugeot's get a bad rap from everybody and their dog, but honestly, there really are some diamonds in the Peugeot lineup, and the 407 Coupe is certainly one of them. Cheers.
@johnball4826
@johnball4826 Жыл бұрын
I had the 406 Pininfarina 3.0 V6 coupe. It was a far better looking car. Fast and surprisingly economical. I kept it for 12 years and the only fault was a coil pack, easily replaced. Everything was standard, no extras to pay for - heated leather seats, sat nav, auto box. Beautiful metallic pale blue with tan leather seats.
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 Жыл бұрын
They are lovely cars…beautifully styled
@AxLWake
@AxLWake Жыл бұрын
Yes, the 406 Coupé was the better looking car, for sure. Very elegant yet sporty. I love Pininfarina's design from the 90's and early 00's.
@speak_your_truth.
@speak_your_truth. Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are lovely. Bit of ferrari about their graceful lines. That's pinnfarina for you 🙂
@bensmithkent22
@bensmithkent22 Жыл бұрын
Jesus that segment had some lookers at the time e46 c70 406 coupe. Even the original clk. Shame alfa hadnt made a 156 coupe just imagine 😮
@AxLWake
@AxLWake Жыл бұрын
@@bensmithkent22 Well, they did. Kind of. The Alfa GT was build on the 156 plateforme. Even if they did not look that similar.
@juusosimola8600
@juusosimola8600 Жыл бұрын
I don't comment much on videos, but now I just have to. Having owned one of these for about a year and a half now, I can say that you put my thoughts into words so well! Your observations from the slightly diesel sounding idle and the somewhat strange looks to the ride quality are spot on. When I tell people that the ride is comparable to some much higher end cars they look at me like I'm insane. Peugeot really nailed the chassis on these, it's firmer than the saloons but not umcomfortable and gets better the faster you go, up to a point of course. For the money I can't think of a better car. It's nice to see someone else also "gets" this car. Keep up the great work with the channel!
@Anrirua
@Anrirua Жыл бұрын
The idle noise is the hydraulic lifters. As it warms up, it purrs. That noise worried me initially but I miss my Coupe a lot.
@billwild673
@billwild673 Жыл бұрын
I used to own a 407 coupe (the 2.7 V6 diesel) and it was a great car. I had it for about 5 years and loved it. It's not a sports car, but think of it as a grand tourer and you won't be disappointed.
@Bumper3D
@Bumper3D Жыл бұрын
My friend has had a 407 saloon with the 2-litre petrol engine for over 15 years now and he has no intention of replacing it anytime soon. I've been servicing it for the last 10 years and the thing has been nearly faultless. It's never had any major electrical problems or anything go wrong with the powertrain. The front suspension "swivel joints", a tie rod end and droplink every now and then, rear brake calipers, the power steering pump and the center display screen have been the only things I recall replacing other than regular service items. It is a quiet and reliable workhorse even at 350k kilometers, a way better car than people give it credit for.
@MrR2185
@MrR2185 Жыл бұрын
As an American visiting Germany a few years ago, we rented a black 407, in 4 door sedan flavor. Two things stuck out, the ride quality and the general feeling of heaviness. Closing the doors felt like closing a bank vault door. You could feel how heavy and planted it was on the road. It just felt really solid for a "non-luxury" car like a Mercedes or the like. The ride quality was this awesome balance of firm and poised but also soft and compliant. Having driven many regular brand cars from the US and Japan, from Ford Fusions, Mazda 6 and Toyota Camry...the 6 being my favorite.... I can say this French car really left a positive impression on me and makes me wish we could get them in the states.
@DiegoRuiz1991
@DiegoRuiz1991 Жыл бұрын
PSA has tried for decades to offer their vehicles to selected dealers in the USA... but the low power numbers, while more than enough for legal speeds, are frowned upon in North America
@Obi-Wan___99
@Obi-Wan___99 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Nice cars french guys do. I have a Citroen C4 coupe that is so special. May the Force be with you
@jonnywalker3208
@jonnywalker3208 Жыл бұрын
Any sentence that starts with "as an American" ... you know there's nothing worth reading afterwards. 🇺🇸 = 💩
@MrR2185
@MrR2185 Жыл бұрын
@@jonnywalker3208 Well, 54 people liked what I said....and you came at me with hostility which makes your comment completely useless. Like a child eating glue stumbling into a room of adults having a conversation and saying "I like turtles".....but it's ok, son, be proud of your contributions, for it is all you're capable of.
@MrR2185
@MrR2185 Жыл бұрын
@@DiegoRuiz1991 That is too bad. The car was not "fast" but it had respectable torque when we went into the mountains in southern Germany.
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev Жыл бұрын
This is why I love this channel. Owner of an F12 is literate about the wonders of a old Pug barge. Brilliant.
@mimaz7155
@mimaz7155 Жыл бұрын
I love Peugeot, when I was young, my dad had a 504 and he loved it so much
@maxmannonen8170
@maxmannonen8170 Жыл бұрын
James deserves more subs, try to get this beast of a man to 300k this year!!
@seanmichaelp724
@seanmichaelp724 Жыл бұрын
JayEmm is literally the easiest car youtuber to watch. Great content that highlights some absolutely terrific hidden gems.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Very kind Sean!
@retrooutput
@retrooutput 11 ай бұрын
I know many people hate French cars through their own experiences or Top Gear telling them such, but there are some absolute shining lights in Peugeot's history, this being one along with the 406 Coupe, 306, 106 of course the 205 and even really the 206 - each of them had a decent top end model which I've been lucky enough to own most. I'm putting a rare gold 2.2 HDI 406 Coupe back on the road at the moment, but if that doesn't work out, I'll be seeking out a 407 Coupe I think!
@mickd94
@mickd94 6 ай бұрын
It'll not disappoint you!
@snoopy10411
@snoopy10411 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making me feel old. I'm. Only 42 and I can vividly remember the 406 coming out like it was yesterday, let alone the 407. My dad had a 405 for most of my childhood
@theodor12
@theodor12 Жыл бұрын
I saw a dark blue metallic 407 coupe with white leather seats last year. I must admit it's a good looking thing.
@Nile9063
@Nile9063 Жыл бұрын
I once dreamed of a 406 coupe as my first car, but I didn't end up getting one. Sadly. The 406 coupe was incredibly beautiful.
@gintas830
@gintas830 Жыл бұрын
this is the reason I have this 406 coupe with a v6 engine now :)
@defallko3905
@defallko3905 10 ай бұрын
on my way to inspect mine :)@@gintas830
@DavidDatura
@DavidDatura Жыл бұрын
What about the Peugeot 406 Coupé from the late 90s early 2000s? One of the most beautiful designs ever put into production and still is, affordable too! Nobody ever talks about that underrated gem. Have they all rusted away or something? 🤷‍♂️
@tastypymp1287
@tastypymp1287 Жыл бұрын
Er no. A nice example of Pininfarina design but 'one of the most beautiful designs ever put into production' is a deeply absurd and false statement.
@davidevans4089
@davidevans4089 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@rattymcclelland
@rattymcclelland Жыл бұрын
@@tastypymp1287 each to their own opinion of course. The 406 coupe is stunning, easily one of the best. Although my opinion is skewed with nostalgia as my Dad was on the the first to get a Tucanae green 406 coupe back in early 97.
@PinkGuy120
@PinkGuy120 Жыл бұрын
This is a video on a 407 Coupe in case you missed it
@tastypymp1287
@tastypymp1287 Жыл бұрын
@Pink Guy Yeah but their inner narc needs to make it about them.
@Abrvpt
@Abrvpt Жыл бұрын
Leaving a bad BMW 118i with engine problems, I went on the hunt for a sensible car with less kilometers, a low price but still having at least a 2.0 petrol. Found myself buying a 407, I did considered the coupé but being heavier and slightly more expensive, I kept to my goal of being sensible and got the sedan. This video makes me regret my choice a bit ! I still miss the BMW for its rear wheel drive balance, but to be fair i'm having good fun on twisty country roads with the 407. Give the rear tires a bit too much pressure and you can even loose the rear on the wet !
@BkSMedia
@BkSMedia Жыл бұрын
a friend of mines had a black 407 Coupe with the 3.0l V6 and man what a car that was. Rode beautiful, had a wonderful induction noise and the seats really do hug you!!
@Lukesummers94
@Lukesummers94 Жыл бұрын
From a pure looks perspective i'll always liked how these look as an estate
@specialboye4910
@specialboye4910 Жыл бұрын
11:45 Location : satisfactory Made me giggle that did, if you go through a bad area does it change??
@Taylor40667
@Taylor40667 Жыл бұрын
This is why I love this channel 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Its a old top gear in the present day
@jakublulek3261
@jakublulek3261 Жыл бұрын
For some reason, I really like 407 Coupé, how it looks and drives, especially with 3.0V6 petrol. It is smooth, quiet, comfortable and classy. Something almost Jaguar-ish about it. But they are very rare, especially with my preferred petrol V6.
@tristanfletcher
@tristanfletcher Жыл бұрын
Any time I see one of these I think "wonder what those are like"? Wonder no more! Edit: Thank you, Michaels brother.
@HairpinMagazine
@HairpinMagazine Жыл бұрын
I drove 407 SW 2.0 diesel for 9 years, and was quite pleased with it. Top mileage, lots of trunk space, fairly reliable. It had the notorious air vent claps failure and the screen was faulty. The replacement screen was dirt cheap, air vents not so much. Today I drive C5 3.0 HDI biturbo (you mentioned that engine in this video), and this engine is a joy to drive. Not the fastest from the start, but it has some power when it starts to move. I believe that a 407 coupe with that engine would be a serious intercontinental transporter :-)
@dougmoodie8713
@dougmoodie8713 11 ай бұрын
Fell in love with the 407sw soon as I saw it, just looked so different and sleek. I have a 2010 sw sport and won’t part with it till it dies, just love it ❤
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Жыл бұрын
The pre-facelift Peugeot 406 Coupe has always been a favourite of mine. It's a shame one cannot find a single example in proper condition.
@frenchbred2081
@frenchbred2081 Жыл бұрын
It’s probably because I have them all! 8 of them all in mint condition stored away.,!
@BenjiB-
@BenjiB- Жыл бұрын
@@frenchbred2081 really? I can’t tell if you are joking
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Жыл бұрын
@@frenchbred2081 Lucky you ;) !
@frenchbred2081
@frenchbred2081 Жыл бұрын
@@BenjiB- it’s not a joke. I have 50 cars in the collection, 8 of which are 406 v6 coupes.
@DavidDatura
@DavidDatura Жыл бұрын
Why are they so rare and hard to find in good condition? One of my personal favorite (affordable) car designs ever.
@indiefferential2856
@indiefferential2856 Жыл бұрын
Early 2000s vibes. Great work!
@AxLWake
@AxLWake Жыл бұрын
It's a cool car I guess but I've always thought the design was a let down in comparison to the previous model. The 406 coupé was much more elegant (designed by Pinifarina, with lines similar to Ferrari's of the time).
@Emppu_T.
@Emppu_T. Жыл бұрын
You have me contemplating on becoming a Peugeot driver.
@lucabeckr
@lucabeckr Жыл бұрын
I genuinely think this and the 406 coupe built by Pininfarina are one of the most beautiful mid-class coupes ever built. Another rare coupe of this sort is the Renault Laguna Coupe which could also make an interesting video.
@benfica2677
@benfica2677 Жыл бұрын
I've owned the 2.7 hdi for 6 year's. Amazing engine,comfort and luxury for the price. Since i couldn't afford the A5
@mheijne2
@mheijne2 Жыл бұрын
Own a 407 coupe V6 automatic. Comfortabele, fast and very reliable. Also black with red leather. Love it to bits
@MrManniG
@MrManniG Жыл бұрын
As a driver of a now ten year old 207SW: Buying that car must have been one of the best ideas I had. I now have that car for 6 of those years in that that time i had to replace (exept for regular service): the electronic cluch of the AC. and thats it. I get charged for a hatchback whilst driving a station wagon that did put on two occasions my dad's passat to shame.
@arbenzeka1098
@arbenzeka1098 Жыл бұрын
I have the 2.7 hdi 407 Coupe and a 2011 CL500. While big Merc is a masterpiece in everyway I find myself just mesmerized when driving the 407. Such an underrated piece of french engineering. While many say it's ugly, in person it's just absolutely stunning. The only one car in my whole career I got asked about and told it's beautiful in many different gas stations across Europe.
@Raptor3388
@Raptor3388 Жыл бұрын
I think the main issue with the styling of the 407 Coupe is because it replaced the almost perfect looking 406 Coupe… It’s definitely not ugly, but it suffers from the lackluster styling cues of the mid 2000s, and the overstyled front sections of the x07 Peugeots.
@arbenzeka1098
@arbenzeka1098 Жыл бұрын
@@Raptor3388 in person it looks bigger, more luxorious and more intimidating than 406. While 406 looks nice, it's looks just like a cheap sports car. For me 406 coupe looks like it belongs with Hyundai Coupe, while 407 coupe can be parked with BMWs, Mercedeses and it won't look out of place.
@marcapouli7805
@marcapouli7805 Күн бұрын
@@arbenzeka1098 I have the 406 and 407 coupé parked next to each other, and I couldn't agree more.
@dunnockdan
@dunnockdan Жыл бұрын
Aged very well this car, look at the "gawwwping" front ends we have nowadays.
@Spheredalai
@Spheredalai Жыл бұрын
this video explains why i am convinced James has the BEST shots and camera setups in all of his videos, because he is a film school graduate! good to know!
@ImReqularr
@ImReqularr Жыл бұрын
I own the 2.7 diesel model. Absolute grand tourer! Very smooth on the highway but stable during curves due to the active suspension.
@Keyynann
@Keyynann Жыл бұрын
Ha! same here. I also have the 2.7 HDI with active suspension but the SW, I love every mile I drive in that car!
@raula.c4771
@raula.c4771 Жыл бұрын
I also have a 2.7 HDI coupe and it is very comfortable to drive and to make long trips, the thermostat box failed me once but everything is fine, it already has 167,000 kilometers.
@kevinalisi
@kevinalisi Жыл бұрын
Hi Raul have u with car any problems?
@kevinalisi
@kevinalisi Жыл бұрын
@@raula.c4771 Are you satisfied with the car, would you recommend it?
@kevinalisi
@kevinalisi Жыл бұрын
@@raula.c4771 hmm ok. thanks
@matthewgodwin3050
@matthewgodwin3050 Жыл бұрын
I'm ashamed to say that I didn't even know there was a 407 Coupe. Now that I do, I rather like it.
@wainerollins2587
@wainerollins2587 Жыл бұрын
I used to own one of these 407 coupes. I can honestly say it's one of the best engineered cars for the price I have ever owned. It was built like a tank and it felt really luxurious. Mine was a 58 plate and I got rid of it about 9 years ago and it still stacks up today all these years later.
@TheHuskyGT
@TheHuskyGT 4 ай бұрын
The car is absolutely gorgeous inside out, like the old 406. But I will never understand why they come with such small underpowered engines. You would think these would come with a 3.5 or bigger 6 cylinder that could move the car a lot easier, plus make it sound better as well.
@HirooKoslov
@HirooKoslov Жыл бұрын
That burgundy leather is wonderful, if only my 308 GTi had upholstry that nice..
@Bercilakdehautdesert-yt1gd
@Bercilakdehautdesert-yt1gd 7 ай бұрын
Until my two lads turned into six footers (five years ago) we ran a pair of these as family cars, with an MG Midget for fun. They were both black, 2.2 petrols, one cloth, one leather interior. I preferred the cloth as it gripped far better. The suspension was sublime with double wishbone front and indie rear, a very pretty aluminium structure if that's what floats your boat. I liked the double glazing, I liked the solid feel, the fuel economy and the power delivery, and the cheap parts. I wasn't fond of the looks, but you don't have to look at it from the inside. We took ours to the South of France and set off numerous speed cameras (never received any fines :-) ) and perhaps the best bit was both cost less than £2k. The only downside is the lack of rear headroom. Shame, they were brill and I will get another at some point.
@devanman7920
@devanman7920 Жыл бұрын
It's actually mad how a review of something like this is so much more interesting than some unattainable ferrari
@PenryMMJ
@PenryMMJ Жыл бұрын
The looks do let it down a bit compared to previous Peugeot coupes, but at current prices they are tempting.
@Anrirua
@Anrirua Жыл бұрын
Love it. Well done. Did a lot of research on a superb used beast before I bought one of these, 7 years old, for 4k euros. Got a 2.2 petrol sv. No other car came close at that price. Totally misunderstood car and the 2.2 petrol is actually the best of the range. Easy to live with. Less hassle than the diesels, dirt cheap as people fear petrol (40mpg on long spins at 60) and when converted to lpg as I did (Prins), turned a 140 mile 5 day a week commute into fun. Very wide, very assured, very hard on front suspension, very very gamey in 3rd gear and not too bad on tyres at all. Brought mine from 70k to 150k miles before head gasket issues (lpg runs HOT and dry). One of the finest cars Ive ever owned, for bargain money. Very reliable and not a mere 407. Extremely well scrwed together. Separate factory and production line. 235/45/18s Hankooks, about €600 all round. Can work on 225 also, if you're tight.
@hughesy606
@hughesy606 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2.7HDi 407SW - to this day, one of the best cars I've ever driven.
@tastypymp1287
@tastypymp1287 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean it's any good. Depends on what you've driven.
@SamHocking
@SamHocking 8 ай бұрын
@@tastypymp1287 I drove a Volvo C70, BMW E46 and Merc C-Class Coupes to help decide what I wanted and the 407 Coupe was the nicer car overall, but I favour the quirky underdog, I like the fact you'll be lucky to see another. The French do this sort of Coupe better than anyone though imo.
@tastypymp1287
@tastypymp1287 8 ай бұрын
@@SamHocking Nah, I've been in one. It was ok, not one of the best.
@SamHocking
@SamHocking 8 ай бұрын
@@tastypymp1287 Depends what you're looking for in a car more than what's best as best is always subjective. I just preferred it to the Merc and BMW. The Volvo was a close second though.
@tastypymp1287
@tastypymp1287 8 ай бұрын
@@SamHocking It's not that subjective.
@GabrielSTEFAN943
@GabrielSTEFAN943 Жыл бұрын
Just saw that the sedan pulled 1.0g at Brands Hatch on the occassion of Autocar's 2004 for Britain's Best Driver's Car. However, you've got to drive a 3.0 petrol version. They all come with an adaptive suspension (with around 17 stages of stiffness that can change every 22 ms and a sport mode to have it stiffer all the time), a variable steering (hydraulic, not electrohydraulic like the one you drove) and a valved exhaust (it even does pops). The engine's not the quickest, but it makes an incredible noise inside, much more special than an Alfa V6 of that time and if it's not a coupe it only comes with a 6 speed auto that was also fitted to the Mini Cooper S or the BMW i8. If it's a bit wet, it throws the back around very easily. My dad has a 3.0 petrol SW from new and it's just surprising to see what a special car it is. BTW, the mk1 508 was also a 407 underneath, but with double wishbone fitted only to the top GT spec. Anyway, thanks a lot for the review, it makes me giggle to have someone like you say good things about the car.
@kisielthe1st
@kisielthe1st Жыл бұрын
My first car was a 407SW as well. Unfortunately a drunk driver crashed into me head on. Me and my passanger walked away only with bruises from the seatbelts. The other guy died on the spot. Props for safety. The most comfortable leather seats I ever sat in a car. None of that side-holding sh*t. Just a comfortable, squeaky, cushioned thick-leather couch.
@XxXnonameAsDXxX
@XxXnonameAsDXxX Жыл бұрын
This coupe, if specced all out makes an extremely compelling grand tourer with the 2.0 hdi engine for two people.
@thecreedy
@thecreedy Жыл бұрын
Speaking of French cars. A Citroën C6 overtook my coach on the M4 today. C6GCT was the reg. Haven't seen one in years and thats more French than the French themselves lol.
@Salpeteroxid
@Salpeteroxid Жыл бұрын
I think this car is beautiful. Would love to replace my second car (Mercedes W203 with the M272, it may be a sport edition but with a manual gearbox you can't really enjoy it because of the massive weight of the flywheel) with this Peugeot.
@thomasbenjamin6314
@thomasbenjamin6314 Жыл бұрын
My first car was a 1960 Peugeot 403 (I'm 78). The car had a hand crank just in case. The seats would convert into a bed. Great for the drive-in movie's.
@Aurora1337onYT
@Aurora1337onYT Жыл бұрын
The Handcrank sounds interesting, the bed would be nice in todays cars too!
@jaybruce593
@jaybruce593 Жыл бұрын
I ran one of these, with the 2.7v6 diesel for a few years, they are a great car, massively under rated.
@jo05dk
@jo05dk Жыл бұрын
I was (still am) firmly in the "what went wrong" camp, when this took over after the insanely beautiful 406 Coupe. It's awkward af to look at, imho. I have however known a couple of guys who had a 407 estate with that 1,6 TDI engine. It excites me in no way, but it's a competent and comfortable car, with surprisingly little legroom for the people in back. Not in any way a car that shows up in my dreams, but i respect it for what it is. Would be on my list of cars to consider if i needed a cheap but comfortable car..in estate version.
@jamescoe764
@jamescoe764 Жыл бұрын
Really good review James. It's a car I would never have considered test driving but maybe I would now
@SteaveBg
@SteaveBg Жыл бұрын
I own 2.2 coupes and it's a nice car with a bit of a luxury feeling. The main problems are front suspension and sensors falts. For the price is a fantastic value
@MM-00777
@MM-00777 5 ай бұрын
Good you do an honest review of a Peugeot. If it was a certain programme, they would have slagged it off from the start-only because they can afford better. I have owned a 407 SW and 7 other Peugeots which have been very reliable, despite what they say. I changed from a BMW X5 which i lost 12k in 2 yrs! The 407 SW i bought, lost 3 k in 4 yrs approx....and did a great job for my family. Granted some of the smaller engine ones are not great, but if you get a bigger engine and service it-it will serve you well with only minor problems which all cars get.
@jjharson7344
@jjharson7344 Жыл бұрын
That seems like a really decent car to be fair.... loved your review of it, great stuff and top notch reporting on it too...
@brianhall3770
@brianhall3770 Жыл бұрын
Bought a mint condition 2006 407 Coupe 2.2 petrol with 37000 miles 18 months ago and I love it, best £3000 I have ever spent.
@ChrisPatrick-q6k
@ChrisPatrick-q6k 11 ай бұрын
This explains Jays nice production work. A smart man
@scottscottsdale7868
@scottscottsdale7868 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Nice to see such a nice car with 100k miles on it. I am in Madagascar now and they sell cars for shockingly high prices claiming to be 1 owner with 85K km that are simply outrageous. The car market here is tragic. And there is. O real financing of new cars. Folks should never complain about $ 500/ month BMW lease with 30,000 mile allowance. That just does not exist here. 😢
@Veroxzes
@Veroxzes Жыл бұрын
My first car is a 2012 Peugeot 508 SW. 1.6L. I actually bought it in March 2021 before I got my license. I used it to learn to drive in with my mom. Got my license in February 2022. Driven all around with it since. Luxury yacht on the road for the money and as a first car. 52mpg in the summer and 47mpg in the winter. 994 miles of range! More range than newer cars because of the much bigger tank. 72L. New cars are around 50-60L at most. My dad has a 2018 Peugeot 3008 GT and it has a 53L tank.
@thistimeimhere
@thistimeimhere Жыл бұрын
These have grown on me more and more. I think it's because the big lights and stuff where ahead of their time really. Now most cars have similar treatment it doesn't look to my eyes as unusual as it used to. I also like the buttress on back window. They are attempting big cruiser for 1500 quid.
@TheKrakovv
@TheKrakovv Жыл бұрын
I love those more affordable car reviews
@Kryptic1046
@Kryptic1046 Жыл бұрын
I like the way it looks. Maybe it's just because I'm from the States but I think it's cool and it's different than anything we have over here. The interior looks good too. I would drive one of those, especially at those used prices.
@stratos8093
@stratos8093 Жыл бұрын
It's so beautiful,especially when you see it in person
@wayneoriordan6749
@wayneoriordan6749 Жыл бұрын
Those 1.6 hdi are brilliant engines if there serviced and maintained ive ran them to mega miles
@ciaranm8772
@ciaranm8772 Жыл бұрын
I know of a 13 Berlingo 1.6 HDI at 550k miles on original engine
@BlueHopi144
@BlueHopi144 Жыл бұрын
I still own a 307 SW with the 1.6 110 HP engine & i am absolutely delighted with it ( how it handles , how robust it is & how smooth the engine is , after 181,000 kms ) . Lovely review of your 407 , the Coupe version is probably one of the most beautiful Peugeot ever made & designed
@volvo24091
@volvo24091 Жыл бұрын
Have driven the 307 hatch. Performed way much better than all the competitor German cars from that time. The 1.6 petrol surprisingly powerful
@BlueHopi144
@BlueHopi144 Жыл бұрын
@@volvo24091 amazing isn't it ? that 1.6 is a marvel of an engine . Enough power to be speedy on specific roads or passing cars on the highway + smooth as silk anytime i need it to be . Great combination . Found it for 3,500 € in 2019 in Belgium . I just wish it had 136 HP like some models had .
@disturbed250
@disturbed250 Жыл бұрын
Not sure what it is but there has always been something about the big Pug coupes ive liked...lol
@onelyone6976
@onelyone6976 Жыл бұрын
Once it became clearer that I needed a car eventually, but didn’t really know how much I’d be able to spend I found one these 407 coupé’s for sale, it had pretty much indetical specs, other than it had the 2.9 petrol V6. They wanted 6k€ for it and I had nowhere near enough money for it so I was just dreaming but nevertheless. I ended up purchasing just a mundane mk2 Megane for 1300€ over a year later. Speaking of french coupé’s, I would absolutely love to see a laguna mk3 coupé on the channel, they look so good. One of the best looking cars at the time IMO.
@jeremywentworth1833
@jeremywentworth1833 Жыл бұрын
Never owned a Peugeot but do think they are a better brand manufacturer than they are given credit. My 83 years old Dad has a petrol 207 GT on a 58 plate in the 12 years of so other than the electronic power steering has never let him down admittedly he now only does 4000 miles a year but he did he's done about 60,000 miles with no problem. I've alwat thought the 407 coupe was a decent looking motor along with the RCZ.
@SamHocking
@SamHocking Жыл бұрын
Primarily the UK motor industry journalists are a bit biased so it becomes distorted opinions in the public imo. Peugeot iirc are the biggest selling brand in France ahead of Renault & Citroen and they're as much of a car nation as UK although probably a bit more patriotic too.
@german_lifestyle_tajbakhsh7282
@german_lifestyle_tajbakhsh7282 10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed every single word you expressed. I have a coupe and I really adore it! Take a look at it❤
@jozsefizsak
@jozsefizsak Жыл бұрын
That's very interesting and I want it but I don't think we ever got them here. Pity.
@BAC_Mono
@BAC_Mono Жыл бұрын
I had one of these! A 10 mile manual V6 coupe bought from a Peugeot dealer where it had been sitting in the showroom for a year. I paid 1/2 MRSP! I also had a BMW 650i, a previous unsung hero you featured. You're literally working your way through my old car history James. May I suggest one of the following next? Renault GTA Turbo, Peugeot 406 V6 coupe. Thanks for featuring some interesting cars on your channel.
@aggelostrifw2280
@aggelostrifw2280 Жыл бұрын
I grew up having a Sedan 1.8 407(my father's car) and we may be the only family in my area who has this car. It's simply unique and great on driving for it's age . I'm looking to really buy the 2.7 Coupe and this review really makes me feel better as not many people really do know this model in my county (Greece)
@EdwardJamesCrockford
@EdwardJamesCrockford Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest and unbiased review. I had a 407SW with the same 2.2 engine and I always thought it was a solid, well-engineered car with surprisingly good handling thanks to that seemingly over-engineered double-wishbone suspension. It was also extremely comfortable and easy to drive (I had the automatic transmission), and the panoramic roof was a huge plus. I even liked the unique styling, especially compared to every other "station wagon" on the road.
@damienmarktaylor
@damienmarktaylor Жыл бұрын
I had one of these brand new, excellent car.
@crowdpleaser1036
@crowdpleaser1036 Жыл бұрын
I had a 407 coupe 2.7 diesel GT auto coupe on a 56 plate which I bought as a natural successor to a 3.0 V6 auto 406 coupe. I absolutely loved it & kept it until 2018 when the combination of ULEZ & £450 a year road tax did for it. I replaced it with a VW cc which despite being a GT R Line was nowhere near as well equipped (no electric seats or folding mirrors) nor quite as much fun to drive. I passed on the first generation 508 but now have a 2020 (70) new generation 508 petrol hybrid. I'm not sure that I like it quite as much, it has a great spec but the fuel storage penalty I pay for the sake of having a battery that costs about £4.50 to put a full charge on & then returns about 15 miles on a good day is of questionable logic.
@punkgoestheweasel
@punkgoestheweasel Жыл бұрын
My dad had one of these in dark teal with seashell seats and it was really nice, loved going on long trips in it
@immike3476
@immike3476 Жыл бұрын
I love the petrol engines from peugeot
@blagssss
@blagssss Жыл бұрын
bought a 330ci clubsport after seeing your car history video, no regrets :)
@rv9990
@rv9990 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame the 508 never got a Coupe. 406 and 407 are gorgeous affordable cars in my book.
@Laugenstnge
@Laugenstnge 9 ай бұрын
im driving the 407 SW 2.2l DIesel, double glasing, full colour display with navigation, sim card slot etc was all normal in that car too
@EasyAchiever65
@EasyAchiever65 Жыл бұрын
My story follows almost the same as you! My first car was a 2004 407 3.0 V6 sedan, had that for a about a year and then moved to a E46 325ci. Still have it today as a little back up car.
@Szczekacz94
@Szczekacz94 Жыл бұрын
The biggest issue in this car is that it doesn't have any good petrol engine, I would rather pick Laguna III coupe with great 2.0 turbo engine if I was looking for French coupe
@Anrirua
@Anrirua Жыл бұрын
True, in that the V6 was an old line of engine. And the 2.2 petrol similar, with not much tuning potential at all sadly. But very very robust. If I had not been running mine on lpg for 80k miles, from 70 to 150k, it would have ploughed on to 200k no problem at all. Used maybe half a litre of oil a week, on around 800 miles mixed driving (motorway and gunning it).
@robwaters8848
@robwaters8848 Жыл бұрын
This thing looks a lot like the 1998 Dodge Avenger coupe we had here in America. Although, I have no doubt this was built to a higher standard 😅.
@philippelemaire2887
@philippelemaire2887 Жыл бұрын
Not sure
@velling12
@velling12 Жыл бұрын
my first car 407 sw 2008 and honesty it has the best seats i've tried and is low on the ground and relaible
@robertpinkney4778
@robertpinkney4778 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see other Coupe’s. Renault Laguna Coupe is another odd one.
@cipryan96
@cipryan96 Жыл бұрын
Amazing looking car
@nakoma5
@nakoma5 Жыл бұрын
Always thought the 407 saloon was a real looker for a family car too. I don't understand the hate they got, I'm in America but admired it from afar.
@shadowsystemproject
@shadowsystemproject Жыл бұрын
u should do the Peugeot 406 Coupé pininfarina someday the v6 out of it was in the venturi 300 atlantique
@alles_klar
@alles_klar Жыл бұрын
Peugeot-Citroen do a bunch of weird stuff here and there but they always nail the road feel and suspension tuning of their cars. From the shittiest 106 to the plushest C6, they all catch you off guard with how well-rounded and satisfying they are.
@Pat14922
@Pat14922 Жыл бұрын
My wife had the 3.0 406 petrol as a company car. (I Helped her choose it) It was a very nice car in cream leather with a big v6. , and used to go very well.
@flyinghedgehog3833
@flyinghedgehog3833 Жыл бұрын
Enzo liked his Peugeot's.. 404/504.I had a 504 estate n 406.Good cars.
@namesbinge3073
@namesbinge3073 Жыл бұрын
Peugeot old design taught us to cherish before it vanished.
@HenrySchecker
@HenrySchecker Жыл бұрын
Peugeot make some attractive cars. Wish I could get that 407 estate in the U.S.
@marius6279
@marius6279 Жыл бұрын
quote from a friend that owned a 407 for a couple of years: "I didn't know what will brake next or if the doors will fall off"
@SiCrewe
@SiCrewe 7 ай бұрын
2:54 Look at that front overhang! The bonnet badge is in a different postcode to the front wheels. What on Earth were Peugeot thinking in those days?!
@Bimar1986
@Bimar1986 Жыл бұрын
I was absolutely stunned by this car when it came out. Still like the design of it to this day.
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