How to undervolt your CPU for cooler temps

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JayzTwoCents

JayzTwoCents

Күн бұрын

We all know that you an get major results with AMD and undervolting... but what happens when you try it with Intel as well?
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@Adam_Lynn
@Adam_Lynn 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm going to show you how to unvolt your CPU" *Turns PC off* "see how easy that was"
@TracksideViews
@TracksideViews 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Lynn 😂
@soupwizard
@soupwizard 4 жыл бұрын
100% power efficient (or does the PSU's wake up circuit use a tiny bit of power?)
@myriadtechrepair1191
@myriadtechrepair1191 4 жыл бұрын
@@soupwizard Computers always draw power when off, unless physically removed from the power source.
@Brendan_Keyport-WA7BMK
@Brendan_Keyport-WA7BMK 4 жыл бұрын
@@soupwizard not quite 100% but damn close to 100% - there's always a standby circuit.
@bananya6020
@bananya6020 4 жыл бұрын
*rips out power lines from house* "and that is how you easily improve your home's safety by unvolting it"
@filmedbyharyor
@filmedbyharyor 4 жыл бұрын
Despite you already being the expert in this overclocking stuff and already did like hundreds if not thousands of similar things youre doing in this video, i love how you still explain almost ALL the basic and little things youre doing so the viewer whos maybe a newcomer in this scene can keep up and actually understand what you are actually doing. Great props to you! You'd be a great teacher lol
@mcgman8058
@mcgman8058 4 жыл бұрын
unfortunately this video is neither thorough or well explained for someone brand new to adjusting bios settings. Jay breezes by a lot of processes and explanations , and I always see newbs simply try to replicate settings and get an unstable overclick. Vdroop and load line calibration was left out of this video entirely and is the most important make or break setting in regards to undervolting vcore at both idle and under full load.
@dvrman123
@dvrman123 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcgman8058 I would agree I'm a noob and I only understood half of what he was doing. I'm going to try undervolting but I'm still a bit nervous.
@hotblack1166
@hotblack1166 3 жыл бұрын
@@dvrman123 Yeah, I've built the PC and did all my research and all is well but I got up to 16 minutes of this and my brain was starting to melt. This looks like a revision course video for those who already know how to do it as there are a lot of assumptions, like you know HWMonitor inside out and what all the readings mean. This could probably be spread out of 2 or 3 videos so I will have to look for something more basic for the first time undervolter.
@bearleemadeit4718
@bearleemadeit4718 2 жыл бұрын
@@dvrman123 I know this is a year later, but I. In the same boat. Managed to undervolt my laptop cpu by -170mv. Dropped my Temps 20°c
@alkisalkis77
@alkisalkis77 2 жыл бұрын
@@bearleemadeit4718 I cant figure it out mate i have a omen 17 and i hit 95 c easy
@doriondouglas6176
@doriondouglas6176 4 жыл бұрын
97c not that bad, Litterally everyone's moms laptop: pathetic
@dominus6695
@dominus6695 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@Frogjimin7878
@Frogjimin7878 3 жыл бұрын
No
@WellBeSerious12
@WellBeSerious12 3 жыл бұрын
> person claims fine > laptop runs like shit
@SaintDeezy
@SaintDeezy 4 жыл бұрын
CPU: *Literally Burning* Jay: This is fine :)
@Robber7
@Robber7 4 жыл бұрын
figuratively*
@EmperorNergal
@EmperorNergal 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing: a lot of people are doing this to their AMD 3900xs and 3950x for the same reason. Bet people will do it for the 5950xs too!
@ArchivedAccount1
@ArchivedAccount1 3 жыл бұрын
My CPU probably should've melted by now, since I never turn my PC off... *Losing all my tabs because the browsers refuse to remember them...*
@tybaltsongwyrm1615
@tybaltsongwyrm1615 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your tutorial videos! Thanks to your help, I was able to not only overclock my 3800x, but also dropped the temps from the stock setting on my X570 Aorus Elite 6-11C, depending on the load. You continue to give me the tools to improve my ability to do it myself, which has always been far more valuable than someone doing it for me.
@McVideosMyst
@McVideosMyst 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@theflyingspud
@theflyingspud 4 жыл бұрын
Jay: "A little warm today at 76F (24C)." Me at the equator: "32C (89.6F) today, could have been worse"
@aadharsh1094
@aadharsh1094 3 жыл бұрын
Me too.... ambient at 35c... It's a hard time for cpu
@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp
@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp 3 жыл бұрын
Me living in India that also delhi at 40°C-45°C Pathetic
@timothyjn100
@timothyjn100 3 жыл бұрын
@@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp Me in australia, niiice. Now those are some familiar temps 🤣
@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp
@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothyjn100 yea Australia has a lil more extreme temps than delhi especially Melbourne
@Kruegh
@Kruegh 3 жыл бұрын
Me in Denmark: 16°c today... Ugh it's sweat time...
@stang10189
@stang10189 4 жыл бұрын
Need more vids like this. Wish I could find a step-by-step guild on duel loop setup settings. Bios, fans, pump speeds, stuff like that.
@Metaldad87
@Metaldad87 4 жыл бұрын
I've been considering doing some videos on different computer things I'm learning
@cainc1673
@cainc1673 4 жыл бұрын
I only clicked for 'unvolting' thought it was gonna unleash some mad performance
@pkbeast
@pkbeast 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw this and thought "What is this voodoo magic that can run your CPU on zero power?"
@anshul4589
@anshul4589 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@cainc1673
@cainc1673 4 жыл бұрын
@@pkbeast Was about to bring a new level of RIP Gamers Nexus
@pkbeast
@pkbeast 4 жыл бұрын
@@cainc1673 Hahaha lol
@Belshazzaresque
@Belshazzaresque 3 жыл бұрын
@@pkbeast voltage=current*resistance, so obviously he hacked the physics engine irl to make his pc 0degrees Kelvin(-273.15 C) thus making the resistance 0 (or delta resistance/dR where the limit approaches 0, effectively making it so small it's ~0), the whole system into a superconductor, and now that current ~infinity with a voltage of dV lim->0. i knew he does liquid nitrogen but critically superfluid liquid helium-3 cooling to get to ~0.0025kelvin? nice (helium-4 achieves superfluidity way hotter; a nice and toasty 2.18K, or only -270.97 celcius!) how was this not obvious? /s
@williamh.gatesiii8183
@williamh.gatesiii8183 4 жыл бұрын
Jay: I can't do this right because I don't have a streaming PC. Jay: Streaming PCs are useless.
@felicityc
@felicityc 4 жыл бұрын
i was confused at his explanation for why it wouldn't work because it clearly can work and well too, seems lazy and i can only imagine it's 'well we have 50 cores anyway haha who cares about offloading or conserving resources on primary pc'
@coopercummings8370
@coopercummings8370 4 жыл бұрын
@@felicityc A capture card or software capturing on the machine you are doing the demo on won't work until windows is booted up, all this happens in bios, so unless he was outputting the video to a 2nd dedicated pc with its own capture card he couldn't get the video of the bios. A dedicated streaming pc just to handle video capture is pretty much useless these days though, this is the one niche case where it would be useful, for everything else you can just buy a ryzen cpu that has enough horsepower to do whatever you are trying to do and still have enough left over to handle the video capture at a very reasonable price, so building an entire 2nd pc just to do video capture doesn't make sense.
@louisburley1597
@louisburley1597 4 жыл бұрын
Would love a Ryzen oc video, but I loved this
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
@@coopercummings8370 realistically if you have a camera pointed to towards the screen works better unless you are an professional overclocked who wants to stream then yes it makes sense . For little here nor there home setup nahhh .
@Lordosvk
@Lordosvk 4 жыл бұрын
Says guy with 15.000€ gaming cave setup.
@7gtz
@7gtz 4 жыл бұрын
ya know ur early when the description has a typo EDIT: The typo in the title is fixed, the description however still has the typo. We all know that you *an* get major results with AMD and undervolting...
@llNecroticll
@llNecroticll 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yup
@MarcusH...
@MarcusH... 4 жыл бұрын
@@llNecroticll title..
@7gtz
@7gtz 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcusH... dude the description too
@stormbringer228_
@stormbringer228_ 4 жыл бұрын
Description was fine
@tigerpjm
@tigerpjm 4 жыл бұрын
Some people save lives, some defend their country, others cruise KZbin for typos.
@christenlanger
@christenlanger 4 жыл бұрын
"Time to sleep. It's 1:30 in the morning." > upload "OK, I guess not."
@billyendson6695
@billyendson6695 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like we live close
@billyendson6695
@billyendson6695 4 жыл бұрын
Earth is so small
@modehz4435
@modehz4435 4 жыл бұрын
What country are you in? Here in Brazil is 2PM
@bodabakry9109
@bodabakry9109 4 жыл бұрын
It's 3:09 AM here in Egypt
@hedley6938
@hedley6938 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanna click on that timestamp but then I'll lose where I am on the video.. Edit: couldn't help it
@270785dar
@270785dar 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so informative. Still relevant in 2021. Using this video as a guide for OC'ing my 10700k to 4.9GHz and undervolting.
@JuanLatorre20
@JuanLatorre20 2 жыл бұрын
What voltage did you get?
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when it was "haha AMD hot"
@ToobeyAmbi
@ToobeyAmbi 4 жыл бұрын
Oh how the turns have table.
@Frostie3672
@Frostie3672 4 жыл бұрын
And it's gonna get even worse for Intel with their up and coming 10th gen desktop parts, that 10 core will nearly be competing with some gpus in terms of wattage it'll consume & it'll be running like a toaster even at stock so good luck overclocking it lol
@filds1
@filds1 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToobeyAmbi Hol up
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 4 жыл бұрын
Well, considering that AMDs new architecture at that time, despite the manufacturing node being compareable, were no were near close to competing, and Intel with 14nm still manages to do that? Yeah - AMD deserved it.
@eggmeister6641
@eggmeister6641 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToobeyAmbi "How the turntables" *
@LooseGripHandle
@LooseGripHandle 2 жыл бұрын
I'm running a 5900x 8gb ram and 1070. Before I undervolted I was getting 90.5c temp limits, 89 junction Admittedly the cooler I'm using is like stacked pennies from some kind of athlon chip. But after I undervolted to 1.087v I'm running stable 62c-69 all Core 100% load.. even with the world's cheapest cooler. Amd did a really good job with hardware architecture on this bad boy.
@PartyofNone
@PartyofNone 4 жыл бұрын
here before he changed the title
@Thai.H
@Thai.H 4 жыл бұрын
What was it before
@sethadkins546
@sethadkins546 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thai.H "Unvolting" rather than undervolting
@bBrain
@bBrain 4 жыл бұрын
The VCCIN, should be higher. 1.9, 1.95 or even 2.0. The higher the VCCIN is, the less heat the internal regulator makes. The lower it is, the more heat the internal voltage regulator makes. 1.8v is stock. It is more stress on the voltage regulator when it needs to make 1.2v from 1.8, than if it makes 1.2v from 2.0 volt. VCCIN is really important to be stable and higher than any other voltage that regulator is making.
@Awakened2001
@Awakened2001 3 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy these videos, I'm very hesitant to mess with my voltages as its foreign to me and I'm afraid to destroy my components.
@Kvickification
@Kvickification 4 жыл бұрын
I find lowering voltage more rewarding then overclocking!
@De-M-oN
@De-M-oN 3 жыл бұрын
and obviously you get then a better overclock afterwards too. so win-win ;D
@josejuanandrade4439
@josejuanandrade4439 4 жыл бұрын
I used to unvolt my cpus, until i got a an electric discharge on my knee.
@branm5459
@branm5459 4 жыл бұрын
"until I took an electric shock to the knee" - Skyrim player / PC enthusiast
@MrGorpm
@MrGorpm 4 жыл бұрын
I used to find these jokes funny............then I took an arrow in the knee ;-)
@wil-fri
@wil-fri 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrGorpm Osgood all the life
@rustyshackleford2841
@rustyshackleford2841 4 жыл бұрын
You adventurer you.😏
@coffeepot3123
@coffeepot3123 4 жыл бұрын
@@branm5459 *Snorts skooma* Skyrim criminal/PC enthusiast.
@HighTQCummins
@HighTQCummins 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for taking the time to make this video, i know very little about this stuff and it gave me a good introductory understanding. granted i am still incapable of this type of tweaking yet but it did break the ice to start on the path
@someguy9466
@someguy9466 4 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, the VID is the voltage the cpu is asking the motherboard for, not a measurement
@Broncoman-lk2zn
@Broncoman-lk2zn 2 жыл бұрын
The information in this video seems to have helped my CPU (Ryzen 7 5800X) overheating issue. I've had it for six months, but the problem just started last week. I had not made any changes to the system in the BIOS, etc., but for some reason, it was overheating. Thank you, Jay!
@Michael-OBrien
@Michael-OBrien 4 жыл бұрын
21:41 - The UEFI is a mini OS and is causing the problems that you're troubleshooting by power cycling
@yeetwchybaban
@yeetwchybaban 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm
@twitchyg1373
@twitchyg1373 4 жыл бұрын
Another thing to remember is the performance in relation to temps. I can get my 6600k to 4.6 with a Max temp of like 74 under full load, but dropping to 4.5 allows a voltage of 1.325 vs 1.375 and drops temps by roughly 10 degrees
@ameserich
@ameserich 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Can you explaine?, lower clock but higher voltage will have cooler temperature?
@zovcy
@zovcy 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ameserich I believe they meant they went from a setup of: (4.6 clock and 1.375 volts, resulting in 74 degrees), to a setup of (4.5 clock and 1.325 volts, resulting in ~64 degrees {this being the 10 degree drop in temp}). So 0.1 clock drop, allowing for a .05 voltage drop, resulting in a 10 degree temp drop.
@avabluej5719
@avabluej5719 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could unvolt my cpu, it would give my house power.
@marcosross8670
@marcosross8670 4 жыл бұрын
If i undervolt my smartphone cpu would start generating energu
@Silent_Shadow
@Silent_Shadow 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcosross8670 thermodynamics says......NO
@alsmith1775
@alsmith1775 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I noticed my lights fluctuate when I do folding at home, old ass house lol
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
@@alsmith1775 well sir is there a fuse that you could change or trip in case of you know what magic smoke .
@alsmith1775
@alsmith1775 4 жыл бұрын
@@tanmaypanadi1414 yea, I think it's an old breaker had to replace one already
@TigTex
@TigTex 4 жыл бұрын
Jay. There is a common misconception about the VID and the VCORE. The VID is the voltage that the cpu is requesting, it doesn't represent the cpu voltage. In fact, that value is useless. The core voltage readout is called VCORE and it is a product of the VID and vdroop (both can be configured on overclockable motherboards). So you set 1.2v on the bios, the VID is 1.2 but actual vcore is different. Other misconception is that any cpu can provide per-core voltage. Only CPUs with a fully integrated voltage regulator can do that. Usually it's only found on Intel haswell, all X99/X299 compatible CPUs and newer mobile parts. Those CPUs use something called VCCIN as voltage input. On all other CPUs, the motherboard is only capable of providing one voltage (called vcore). If you have one core idling and one core at full load, both cores will receive 1.3v (for example). Exception: Deep C-States can disable vcore input per core but if you overclock and let C-States option on auto, C-States are disabled. Use hwinfo64 (sensors only) for more accurate software readings because hwmonitor is not frequently updated
@atata9
@atata9 Жыл бұрын
I know this comment is old, but got me curious. Do you work/worked at intel? It is the first time I see someone mentioning FIVR, specially because it is only used in server hardware nowadays.
@TigTex
@TigTex Жыл бұрын
@@atata9 not really. I just used to do motherboard level repairs on my previous job (including servers) and I had to know things such as how VRMs work on each CPU architecture
@nicklekas979
@nicklekas979 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this tutorial Jay! I struggled to keep my 7980XE temps under control when I last tried overclocking it. Now I have a stable 4.5GHz at 1.190V and staying under 90C!
@Kiro_I0
@Kiro_I0 3 жыл бұрын
Is below 90c good? Like around 78 hitting 80 something, is it bad?
@white9093
@white9093 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kiro_I0 No its fine
@Kiro_I0
@Kiro_I0 3 жыл бұрын
@@white9093 yeah, ik. thanks for letting me know tho. After all these months I’ve been troubleshooting a lot and learning more about PC every now and a while. I ended up OC 4.1hz my cpu around the time i sent that last comment and never had a problem. Temp always stays around 60c on idle with stock cooler so I’m good.
@white9093
@white9093 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kiro_I0 What's is your cpu if you don't mind me asking?
@lukasg2786
@lukasg2786 2 жыл бұрын
My cpu ( i7 12700k) sometimes spikes to 75c when playing Assasins creed origins, usually holds between 60 - 70c, is that ok or I should be worried?
@Voodojester
@Voodojester 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this guide it was super helpful and comprehensive. I always had issue distinguishing which option does what in the voltage adjustment section. Managed to shave off 5-7C from each core playing around with the values.
@leeadkins1360
@leeadkins1360 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips Jay and also in the comments. Just to add, you may also find it perfectly stable when running a load but after periods of being idle it freezes. You can try changing the Load Line Calibration setting to see if it helps but otherwise back the undervolt off another step.
@victorsasek1113
@victorsasek1113 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay, I like these kind of videos, showing the steps on how to over click cpu, gpu, ram. Also enjoy what ever video you decide to do. The content you make on this channel is awesome!! Thanks for all you do. 👍
@NinjaContravaniaManX
@NinjaContravaniaManX 4 жыл бұрын
me: omg, my hottest core is 1° hotter than the whole package, is my cooler installed properly? Jay: 30 degree difference on idle, no big deal... me: O_o
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
When playing with hardware with over a couple of years of experence that's normal since it's not how they are running their systems around the clock .
@Matpermad
@Matpermad 4 жыл бұрын
That's because its probably not delidded
@darkchaosclanat
@darkchaosclanat 4 жыл бұрын
@@Matpermad 9980XE is soldered...
@weavercs4014
@weavercs4014 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkchaosclanat and? You can still delid soldered IHS'
@darkchaosclanat
@darkchaosclanat 4 жыл бұрын
@@weavercs4014 Yes you can, but please explain me why it should make any sense?
@logaiswaran14
@logaiswaran14 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks @JayzTwoCents! - Great video to explain the how undervolting can work on certain CPUs and what are the gains from there. Keep the videos coming :)
@tresnugget
@tresnugget 4 жыл бұрын
I thought VID was not actually voltage. It was just pre programmed tables. You have to go by vcore. I'm pretty sure VID isn't per core voltage.
@johnflynn6140
@johnflynn6140 4 жыл бұрын
Vid is what cpu asks for set by intel not what it gets
@itube8324
@itube8324 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnflynn6140 Exactly. Basically, it doesn't matter what it's showing, when overclocked.
@jak3All3n
@jak3All3n 2 жыл бұрын
@@itube8324 Well yes and no, when you OC your CPU, the VID rises as well, but it may not be enough and it crashes anyway in which case you can override it with a higher value, or if the VID is higher than necessary, you can undervolt it like what Jay did here.
@JFG3D
@JFG3D Жыл бұрын
Thanks! For the lesson on tuning. Your videos are both educational and entertaining making your channel one of my goto computer channels on KZbin. Keep up the good work,
@JosiahBradley
@JosiahBradley 4 жыл бұрын
0 voltage, infinite amps!!!
@happygimp0
@happygimp0 4 жыл бұрын
0 Ohm.
@jake1173
@jake1173 3 жыл бұрын
@@happygimp0 resistance is futile.
@kaukey
@kaukey 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally got my 14 core to 4.8 with this guide. (Non AVX) Temps around 85ish!
@nicwilson6587
@nicwilson6587 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay for a masterclass in undervolting/over clocking :)
@allbromobro3505
@allbromobro3505 4 жыл бұрын
Jay when you make actual guides they're among some of the best on KZbin. Bookmarking this vid for sure.
@hypetreyn1646
@hypetreyn1646 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do this with an AMD r9. I'm still at a loss as to what the danger temp in with my 3950x
@DJKr15py
@DJKr15py 3 жыл бұрын
you can hit 90 before it's actively destroying itself but in general you want it to stay below 80ish under load for long life
@fluffypink90
@fluffypink90 4 жыл бұрын
"An overclock isn't stable unless it's stable for your workloads." Some of the best advice I've ever heard from Jay. My overclock is fine in every synthetic load I've tried. The only thing I've found that crashes it is simultaneous DotA and KZbin, of all things.
@iXzenoS
@iXzenoS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, I know this video is old now but just wanted to say these kinds of practical, real-case scenario teaching videos are SUPER helpful and it would be great if you could do an updated one for the new 12900K chip with the latest BIOS. Just the basic steps to OCing, followed by the step-by-step process of how you would actually go about tweaking/testing the parameters like you did in this video.
@Chriss120
@Chriss120 4 жыл бұрын
great video. most ppl talk about overclocking and raising the voltage but getting more performance and less thermal output is real nice.
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I subscribed to Jayz' channel. Great content that's different from other hardware channels. A wealth of information in this video that's worth several viewings. Awesome.
@mikebennett9797
@mikebennett9797 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Big guy! Just got my hands on a I5 13600k right out of the box running an initial stress test it shot up to 100 degrees, it was frightening... Had my voltage at 1.55ghz running. Was able to undervolt to a 1.29 at a 4.6ghz keeping the temp at 68 degrees bring my cinebench score to a 9048
@veronicaortega5333
@veronicaortega5333 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you did this tutorial Jay! I can't wait to give it a try after finals :) Take care!
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
Wow finals I wish mine were conducter right now as they were supposed to be over last month but lockdown
@dibthelegend8759
@dibthelegend8759 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is an underrated aspect of overclocking. Not every "successful" overclock has to be balls to the wall and screaming hot, just getting the performance you paid for.
@poulpork9338
@poulpork9338 4 жыл бұрын
So true, it's almost like finesse vs rgb water cooling with fans blasting for 2% performance.
@Damalycus
@Damalycus 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd learn anything from J2C video. I know that high performance has a minimal cpu power set to 100% vs balanced 5%. But I could never imagine it has immediate effect on voltage. So all these years I wasted power... I guess it's a good thing it's mostly cold where I live.
@vfxfisher
@vfxfisher 7 күн бұрын
I have an i9-13900K on a ASUS Z790-E Wifi MB (with latest bios - 2503 - thank you for the other video about the Intel cpu issue). I set the BIOS to the setting in the video about the issue (Performance Pref: Intel Default Settings). When I use Intel XTU and let it do it's thing I notice I am still seeing the Current/EDP Limit Throttling turning on. Using HWNFO64 I see the P-Cores at 5.1 MHz. I want to squeeze all I can out of this workstation as I am a Senior 3D Artist (over 25 yrs experience) and doing freelance work. Time is money. I feel like I am missing something important. Love your channel. So glad I just found it about a week ago.
@ghfhgfuuu
@ghfhgfuuu 4 жыл бұрын
Unvolting or UNDERvolting?
@llvmpipe
@llvmpipe 4 жыл бұрын
JokeRGBlazE Was gona right that
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
He dose this quite a few times But we just brush it off and understand what he mean Feelings and shitt
@DavidFuchs
@DavidFuchs 4 жыл бұрын
That's an old trick by the way for Intel processors. Under clock and under volt and you get higher sustained turbo speeds. It's great for servers.
@FrankLeeMadeere
@FrankLeeMadeere 4 жыл бұрын
Furmark + intelburntest (or the one that is now included with furmark) gives me the highest system power draw I've seen yet. I think that's a good test to include on top of the component focused tests.
@co-null5599
@co-null5599 4 жыл бұрын
Furmark is known to destroy graphics cards.
@MonsterSound.Bradley
@MonsterSound.Bradley 4 жыл бұрын
Furmark, Intelburntest, Prime95, FAH are more demanding than any game or other "normal" app and would likely not be stable at these performance settings. So, your usage should help you determine how fast you want to set your overclock.
@williamdobbins3797
@williamdobbins3797 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I was able to get a stable 5ghz overclock on my I5-7600k and in cinebench went from a 1598 to a 1720 score (I know nowhere near Ryzen or 9/10 gen Intel but I'm happy) max core temp was 76c on water.
@soccerox817
@soccerox817 4 жыл бұрын
Might need to check the title.
@Mp57navy
@Mp57navy 4 жыл бұрын
lower voltage + same load = more amps. Ultimately you are running more electrons at a slower speed through the same road. Good way to get a traffic jam.
@HonuManHi
@HonuManHi 4 жыл бұрын
If you 'unvolt' a cpu, then change your mind, would that be 'revolting'?
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
Nice try but sorry it's was overvolting or stock voltage
@midi002
@midi002 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just undervolted my ROG Maximus Hero z790, i9-13900k. (4090 RTX, Win11) I didn't know Cinebench was a free program. Wonderful CPU stress test. Stats: Passmark 11627.2 > 11452.6, lowered Core v to 1.41000, Upped temp warning to 95C, HWinfo 5800mhz > 5500mhz It seems that while my RAM and "RAID 0" scare went down, my GFX score actually went up. Which is better for my gaming. A welcome surprise. And, yes, I do remember you saying that over the week I should keep tweaking and see how high I can approach the limit.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Jay, I enjoyed this video and your work a lot dude. I enjoy playing around with these settings myself and getting massive jumps in performance. Then going for lower temperatures is balancing act that I enjoy. Stay safe and quarantined. See you in studio hopefully in two or three weeks.
@swordmaster65
@swordmaster65 4 жыл бұрын
To comment on Jay's "I don't have a stream pc and those are dumb..."(2:34) comment: www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/40fpj0/single_pc_vs_two_system_setup_for_streaming_why/ Certain apps and games don't play nicely with broadcasting software, such as OBS and XSplit (this is also from personal experience with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare [2019] and Apex Legends). Not to mention, when the streamer wants to maximize the total fps of their gameplay (especially without stutter or de-sync), 2-PC setups are still very valid solutions. For streamers who typically play at 60 fps, 1-PC will be perfectly fine as the only thing they need to worry about is V-Sync, which can be addressed by the app or driver settings.
@Mateotibi
@Mateotibi 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jayz really good video! I’ve got a question that I hope you can ask.. the level of adjustment you made is just perfect, balancing the voltage and freq. However, I think another crucial factor here is the room temperature that you did not mention. I mean if you make this tuning during winter, when summer arrives, you could see some crashes when you push your pc, due to the possible 15-20 C difference in the room temps. Same if you tune your pc in summer time, 6 months later you would be able to push your PC harder with the same temps. Did you think about that? Thanks and good job man!
@Michael-vo4iw
@Michael-vo4iw 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! Finally, just the guide I've been waiting for! Now I'll just have to watch it one more time to fully understand how to do it. Cheers!
@DannyB0T
@DannyB0T 4 жыл бұрын
"Unvolting"
@erick4188
@erick4188 4 жыл бұрын
"Learn the secrets of 0 TDP!"
@sker1213
@sker1213 4 жыл бұрын
@@erick4188 the secret is to power it off :D
@MrWarwickbass
@MrWarwickbass 4 жыл бұрын
Jay at it's best
@spacecy
@spacecy 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@rohitk8797
@rohitk8797 4 жыл бұрын
zero point energy unlocked
@Kmaitland89
@Kmaitland89 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about overclocking but, this is a really good guide to some of the settings. Thanks! You helped explain a bunch of things to me!
@Technotize
@Technotize 4 жыл бұрын
New tech slang incoming - Unvolting. Just like gravis cards 😁
@technerd679
@technerd679 4 жыл бұрын
Bryan from Tech Yes City likes that :)
@sanjeevkr.7330
@sanjeevkr.7330 4 жыл бұрын
Same I also thought of bryan
@Technotize
@Technotize 4 жыл бұрын
@@sanjeevkr.7330 Yeah, we all watch almost the same channels
@TB-ModelRR
@TB-ModelRR 4 жыл бұрын
He just needs a devolterization calibrator. 😁😅
@TheBackyardChemist
@TheBackyardChemist 4 жыл бұрын
Jokes on you, Gravis cards were a thing! As in Gravis Ultrasound.
@Omlet221
@Omlet221 3 жыл бұрын
My issue is not my PC being too hot its my room being too hot
@septtmos
@septtmos 4 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see an AMD version
@itube8324
@itube8324 4 жыл бұрын
AMD slows down the cpu automatically, instead of crashing. That's weird.
@ambilijohn6846
@ambilijohn6846 4 жыл бұрын
I believe AMD does not support undervolting for some reason
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
@@ambilijohn6846 it's pretty complicated since they have a chiplet design to make an interface for each ccx lvl Overclocking or undervolting as they don't have such precise controls or knowledge over these situations .
@captmalreynolds1
@captmalreynolds1 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in a first gen Threadripper version. (probably because I'm running one...)
@TBlasku
@TBlasku 4 жыл бұрын
@@ambilijohn6846 It does if my negativ voltage offset on my 3700X counts as undervolting. :)
@SpookySkeletonGang
@SpookySkeletonGang 4 жыл бұрын
Undervolting is just great. I undervolt my GPU's whenever I get one and I can almost always keep stock speed or get a bit of an overclock, while cutting my voltage by A TON. Lets me cut my fan speeds by half sometimes and it's great.
@marshallalexander8228
@marshallalexander8228 4 жыл бұрын
I do the same, my 1070 went from 71°C to 52°C, didn't gain much performance but hey! Wattage went from 180w to 140w
@forgottenfox3857
@forgottenfox3857 4 жыл бұрын
I mean my 3950x got 10,073 at 4.2Ghz stable in cinebench... Highest temp was 73C... Maybe it's time to go amd?
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 4 жыл бұрын
For those kind of workloads, obviously yes, at least right now. For gaming it depends on what you play & if it heavily favours Intel or not.
@GreenNubCakes
@GreenNubCakes 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else getting White Walker vibes from Jay today? Dat natural lighting in his house. Love you Jay!
@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc 4 жыл бұрын
"Unvolt"? Is that taking *all* the volts away? Also, massively triggered by the off-center webcam. MASSIVELY triggered.
@venividivici4253
@venividivici4253 4 жыл бұрын
JMUDoc Ok
@jak3All3n
@jak3All3n 2 жыл бұрын
I do this as well to my 10980xe, the only downside to this method is now our Vcore is higher than it needs to be at idle because it's fixed at 1.175v. At stock and idle, the Vcore would normally be below 0.900v. I do not know, and would like to know, if fixing the Vcore like this would cause CPU degradation over time.
@legoguy217
@legoguy217 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I was pumping way more voltage into my 9900k than I needed.
@NeoEletto24
@NeoEletto24 4 жыл бұрын
Hey,how is your voltages now? I'm running 1.295 @ 5.0/4.8 Avx . But if I run Cinebench,it will jump to 95° after 5 minutes. Noctua Nh-U12A cooler here.
@Khorlane
@Khorlane 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, under less than desirable conditions, but you still manage to keep it very engaging!
@usul1987
@usul1987 4 жыл бұрын
XD intel.... -5% performance per security update
@OldmanDaSnipa13
@OldmanDaSnipa13 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the help J.. Using Firestrike as a reference.. and your tips for a guide.. ive taken my 7800X from 4.2 oc to 4.7 and come down 14c on overall temps.. and its very stable now.. thanks for everything !!!! :)
@dkanimates5544
@dkanimates5544 4 жыл бұрын
made it but hey jay when is the next giveaway
@DPLS77
@DPLS77 Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. In Cinebench I got up to 12.6°C cooler with a set voltage of 1.2v and 10 less wattage at 4.4ghz. Cinebench score went from 10,687 to 10,937.
@GabbyTech
@GabbyTech 4 жыл бұрын
undervolting ?
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 4 жыл бұрын
wee tip for stability testing, run youtube at 4k as well as cinebench r20. I found that instead of taking 20 runs to get a crash, u get it in 5 runs, if your on edge of stability. If you can do 30 runs + youtube 4k I'd be confident system is rock solid.
@snowhawk4049
@snowhawk4049 4 жыл бұрын
Well you either spend hours to optimize all this settings or just buy AMD and even save some money.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 4 жыл бұрын
CPU yes, GPU not so much. not a very effecient design on that side
@sabishiihito
@sabishiihito 4 жыл бұрын
snowhawk you think people don’t do that with AMD CPUs?
@kendokaaa
@kendokaaa 4 жыл бұрын
Oh AMD users can also squeeze more performance by tweaking endlessly, difference is AMD's high core count CPUs don't reach stupidly high temperatures. I don't know how many days I've spent so far overclocking my ram
@subsgob00m
@subsgob00m 4 жыл бұрын
@@kendokaaa Yeah, and AMD CPUs are clocked pretty close to their limits out of the box (at least for 3000 series CPUs). As long as you have a decent cooler or AIO you are more limited by safe voltages than by temps, sort of the opposite with Intel CPUs currently. Memory overclocking, on the other hand, provides much more benefit on an AMD system than Intel and can take ages to tweak to perfection. I think I spent nearly 3 weeks tweaking my b-die sticks to 3733MT/s (my infinity fabric isn't happy with 3800) at 14-11-13-13-28-35-248 timings (CL-RP-rRCD-wRCD-RAS-RC-RFC) at 1.5v. Tuning every single setting one-by-one, testing for hours on end after every single change, finding the absolute lowest values that would run stably. It's not that much performance to be gained in the end, but I like tweaking everything in my PC and the gain to 1% lows in games was worth it.
@pilotavery
@pilotavery 4 жыл бұрын
@@kendokaaa you don't have to though, you can just turn on precision boost overdrive on 3000 series which is actually based off their server chip which means it has air correction code built in and doesn't actually crash the computer when there is a fault. It actually will automatically overclock itself until it becomes unstable and then underclock a tiny bit and then undervolt itself until it becomes unstable and then increases voltage a little bit. There is a reason why AMD CPUs actually produce a lot of heat the first two or three hours of operation as well as run at a slightly slower clock speed. It actually takes time for the CPU to learn its limits.
@WeCreativeFew
@WeCreativeFew 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Jay I feel much more confident now about how to over clock after that video. Greatly appreciated good sir.
@defsoul641
@defsoul641 4 жыл бұрын
you know you're early when the description has a typo "we all know you an get"
@worstenbroodje6832
@worstenbroodje6832 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the title
@d4rkst4rd351gn
@d4rkst4rd351gn 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn’t think your quarantine videos would be worth watching, but I learned A LOT from this single video. 🥳
@Madblaster6
@Madblaster6 4 жыл бұрын
2:40 it will boot. Windows brings up recovery automatically every 4th crash
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
Every 4th crash .... is it an exact statistic ?
@swagmaster-vn2dx
@swagmaster-vn2dx 4 жыл бұрын
@@tanmaypanadi1414 yeah, happens to every CPU
@oliveirajose27
@oliveirajose27 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, now I need the courage to do it on my rig, thank you Jay!!!!
@dust6711
@dust6711 4 жыл бұрын
Jay: -Typos- The entire comments section:
@stephenscarff471
@stephenscarff471 4 жыл бұрын
i love watching Jayz videos , even though i dont have a clue what hes talking about most of the time
@rustyshackleford2841
@rustyshackleford2841 4 жыл бұрын
stephen scarff Pimp and Hoes man. Money!!
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
Well learn about it computers are really nice to play with even if you have an used setup like mine .
@stephenscarff471
@stephenscarff471 4 жыл бұрын
@@tanmaypanadi1414 i play on comp all the time , dont even switch the tv on , just do everything on comp
@JanDanielSCortez
@JanDanielSCortez 4 жыл бұрын
Jay's webcam is not centered to his monitor.
@mchase40
@mchase40 4 жыл бұрын
why does this have to be a top comment
@Gassit
@Gassit 4 жыл бұрын
Is it triggering your OCD ? What a shame.
@tutoralTV
@tutoralTV 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you have made the video before but could you make a video explaining all the settings for overclocking more? Like what we would want to lower and what we would want to raise and what settings that don't need to be touched.
@Cichlid_Visuals
@Cichlid_Visuals 4 жыл бұрын
damn, my 3950x on AIR, in an ITX CASE runs cooler and scores damn near the same on R20.
@nathankey2007
@nathankey2007 4 жыл бұрын
I did not realize that putting power settings at "Balanced" would allow my core clocks to lower when not in use (or low utilization). Thanks for the help! This dropped idle temps from about 36 to 33 degrees C.
@jak3All3n
@jak3All3n 2 жыл бұрын
Balanced power plan is great for saving power but be aware that if you game, sometimes setting your power plan to High can eliminate stutters that were there when in Balanced mode.
@anshul4589
@anshul4589 4 жыл бұрын
Me : Can we have ltt at home? Mom : We already have one. Ltt at home :
@kennitholiver7092
@kennitholiver7092 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work legend I’m running similar setup to you same board 7980xe and 1080ti on ek waterblock and two 560mm rads amd couldn’t for life of me get my overclock stable but now I can run 4.7ghz no problems at all.. cheers legend.
@SaberShirou
@SaberShirou 4 жыл бұрын
I was here when Jay decided not to run his processor with any volts at all.
@ianshaffer5222
@ianshaffer5222 3 жыл бұрын
This may be an old vid, but it's still really useful. Thank you for taking the time.
@ChatBot1337
@ChatBot1337 4 жыл бұрын
Jay apologizes for pointing a camera at his screen. Me: I would do the same because I have no idea how to do it differently. 🤷‍♂️😆
@WarrenGarabrandt
@WarrenGarabrandt 4 жыл бұрын
FRAPS, Shadow Play, OBS, any of a number of screen capture tools.
@SolarMechanic
@SolarMechanic 4 жыл бұрын
It makes sense for the bios since you need a capture card, but for everything in Windows there are a bajillion ways to capture in software.
@miloolsen4395
@miloolsen4395 4 жыл бұрын
@@WarrenGarabrandt But those tools will also be using system resources, so using cam recording is more appealing for gathering consistent stress test results.
@Falcodrin
@Falcodrin 4 жыл бұрын
undervolting is amazing when it comes to temps. I wasn't able to overclock my surface pro 2 back in the day but I was able to undervolt 25%. That led to more performance because the cpu would stay boosted permanently.
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 4 жыл бұрын
What utility did you use I have a i7700hq but I didn't what to use bios dosent have any settings .
@mihailcirlig8187
@mihailcirlig8187 2 жыл бұрын
@@tanmaypanadi1414 Throttlestop is the best, use the 9.3 version tho, the 9.4 for me is quite broken
@MegaRedleader
@MegaRedleader 4 жыл бұрын
The new slogan "Unvolting"
@BetteBalterZen
@BetteBalterZen 4 жыл бұрын
Mega awesome video Jay! I love how you go through everything and explain also. This is very good for learning how to overclock. :D
@arminc4658
@arminc4658 4 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the art of unvolting
@FearInSilence.
@FearInSilence. 4 ай бұрын
Hey everyone , I have watched 50+ videos re arranging bios settings and tried many softwares but nothing worked for the past 3 weeks as i person who has received a new pc i was worried but after wasting my time on all of these videos , I went to my guy who build my pc and he changed the orientation of my cpu cooler fan. My cpu on idle ( 60°C ) and under load ( 100°C ) went to 25°C on idle and 60°C under load . Hope this helped ❤❤❤❤
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