JCB powershift troubleshooting.

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@deeredr2878
@deeredr2878 5 жыл бұрын
I hope everyone that watches Warren realizes just how rare and great he is. This type of skill is very rare. GREAT JOB Warren!!!!!
@moman0166
@moman0166 5 жыл бұрын
I watch you because the world is getting so screwed up you reality brings me back to faith in humanity. I turned wrenches for 17 years before I bought my Snap On tool business. I understand your diagnoses pattern and how you get to the problems very quickly. People don’t have a clue that you have a gift of understanding how hydraulics works. I watch you and listen to you closely while your working because you are a breath of truth. I ask the Lord to watch over you and the dogs because I would rather talk to my dogs than talk to people. Keep doing what your doing and thanks for the great videos.
@666goats
@666goats 5 жыл бұрын
Warren I'm so glad you have this channel I must have spent almost 100 hours watching now.not in 1 sitting. I think this is invaluable watching thank you very much
@oadamo
@oadamo 5 жыл бұрын
warren what ever you charge its not enough, finding someone as good as you is a rare find.
@kainenmattison3665
@kainenmattison3665 5 жыл бұрын
We have a guy like him for our farm.... he is retiring soon. Im worried.
@a222parker
@a222parker 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, you rock. I normally cant stand sitting on my ass watching other guys work, but your videos are special - I learn something every time. I'm a maintenance guy, don't work on diesels or power shifts, but your videos are valuable to me. Thank you.
@michaelmcdonald6727
@michaelmcdonald6727 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Warren, can’t wait for the update! Appreciate ya sharing.
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael.
@michaelmcclure8673
@michaelmcclure8673 5 жыл бұрын
Warren I keep watching your channel because you have the mind set of a true mechanical detective. You try to figure the issue out first instead of just throwing parts at it till it works. 🤔😎
@BlackAck90
@BlackAck90 5 жыл бұрын
You didnt check the commencement fluid! Youre for sure the best mechanic ive seen. Wish you lived around here!! Much respect sir.
@buddykdog
@buddykdog Жыл бұрын
watching you video, I learned where the gear solenoids are on the JCB, I have spent an hour or better looking at the service manual and couldn't find the location. I have the T4i transmission and six gear doesn't work, But after pressure washing, It'll work intermitily , my guess is a bad wire on the solenoid or the solenoid its self.... Now I know where to start looking. THANK YOU!! your videos are informational
@markreetz1001
@markreetz1001 5 жыл бұрын
I was pretty proud of myself--I was able to follow along AND understand what you were talking about. That doesn't always happen. I have turned a wrench or two, but am not nor ever was a mechanic, and especially not with all the electronics you go through. Great job Warren.
@eddiereichel9354
@eddiereichel9354 5 жыл бұрын
Iv watched you for a couple years and ill tell you your understanding of systems is awesome. I try to think the way you do its hard sometimes. Just breaking each system on a machine down to what exactly that particular part does. I think you would benefit so much from getting a Oscilloscope and iv dicked around for a year online trying to learn it but Im sure there is training. Pico makes top knoch 4 channel scope. Hydraulics you can use a pressure transducer adapted to circuits and have an instant recording of system pressure. Hell one of the ones that blew my mind was Relative compression. you use the waveform of the starter amps and see each cylinder coming up on pressure and can identify down cylinders fast. Testing possibilities are endless.
@johnmorris6434
@johnmorris6434 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Warren, good video as ever, just wanted to share with you, I worked for a company that had quite a few JCB telehandlers, and they were a big problem travelling them any distance. We also used to get burnt smelly oil, we found that to be the fins in the gearbox oil coolers blocking up but not completely and boiling the oil and then it would blow the dipstick out the tube and blow out the breathers, fire oil everywhere. and then it would start killing the packs eventually. Hey I know you know way more than me, I just thought id say.
@olspanner
@olspanner 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the update Warren, thankyou.
@Gordonseries385
@Gordonseries385 5 жыл бұрын
Scary hope no one got hurt being thrown into the window enjoyed watching Warren take care
@cntslesfabrication
@cntslesfabrication 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you jacked it up in the shop because if you didn't you would have been flying out the front window like Superman
@laneburgess1643
@laneburgess1643 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love watching you troubleshoot.
@disturbedcarrot
@disturbedcarrot 5 жыл бұрын
Just spent the day talking male bovine manure at a conference, this is the perfect antidote! Thanks for making the effort.
@JonDingle
@JonDingle 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff young man and another collection of videos sorting out a tricky repair job to look forward too. Having used JCB telehandlers and artic steer loaders I can say they are great to use. Thankfully I am not clever enough to start to repair one when does go wrong. That is why guys like Warren do a great job and are interesting to watch because they have all the hassle when it comes to repairs! I will stick to welding stuff up, making stuff or using machines to do jobs!
@robertstibz9506
@robertstibz9506 5 жыл бұрын
Great work as always Warren.
@nextlevelgamez9243
@nextlevelgamez9243 5 жыл бұрын
The wires in the shift control may have shorts or breaks in them.
@jonwilk4420
@jonwilk4420 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Warren, I worked on a JCB 217S with no reverse and no 1st gear. I found mismatched and burned relays. I replaced with the correct relays and problem solved. The relays are not identical (check the parts book) and also have diodes built in. If the direction control on the column tests good, the relays would be my next step. The wiring diagram explains very well. This can be verified by probing the solenoid connections at the transmission and looking for correct and stray voltages.
@kerrygleeson4409
@kerrygleeson4409 5 жыл бұрын
Always very interesting Warren thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺🚜
@jimlondon1
@jimlondon1 5 жыл бұрын
My current employer had a 2000 3CX backhoe that had a similar problem with its 4spd powershift gearbox. It was a gasket that failed between the solenoid bank and the clutch packs. There was tiny veins that directed oil flow to the correct packs. The gasket between perished and directed oil to the wrong places. Took us a while to figure because we had 2 JCB technicians out and they were beaten by it. One bad gasket caused a headache.
@chrisfarabaugh3235
@chrisfarabaugh3235 5 жыл бұрын
Worked on a backhoe that had that transmission (was a bit older though, late 2000s as it was not ecm controlled but rather had a relay logic board) there was an updated valve body I installed as the shift valves/coils changed
@JamesGarage06
@JamesGarage06 3 жыл бұрын
Our jcb 3cx will not always go into gear, it will jump out on occasion aswell. With reverse if the reverse beep comes on it always means you get reverse, but it takes a few minutes prior to shifting the stick for it to actually engage. Same with forward. Abit concerned about how to go about fixing it
@stevehill4615
@stevehill4615 5 жыл бұрын
Dunno if this applies to the later loaders but the earlier models did have problems with the micro switches on the shift lever unit that would make the powershift act erratically ---- this was mentioned on a number of UK farming forums and the symptom that turning the engine off and restarting appears to "clear" the fault makes me think a sticky or leaking voltage micro switch is keeping the 2, 4 clutch pack solenoid "powered up" locking the transmission if 1st or 3rd are selected and no drive when 2nd's selected.
@paddyboy557
@paddyboy557 5 жыл бұрын
Great video warren them JCB s are good machines when they are working but a pain when they are not. You should get some tee shirts with your saying Thats Not Right, printed on them with some spanners? All the best
@joea2274
@joea2274 5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see more on this jbc
@canuckyank82
@canuckyank82 5 жыл бұрын
Love the manual reading and detective work. Great explanations on this one. If that manual is a PDF you can search for anything really quickly using "control" " F" to find and then up/down arrow to move through all search instances. Quicker than s c rolling through the page and every instance of the word shows up. Great video with tons of good clues!
@leebarnes655
@leebarnes655 5 жыл бұрын
Only works like that if the source input is text in the first place, unfortunately quite a bit of pdf creation is pure image rendition where the search function returns with not found across the board.
@alanwarner7057
@alanwarner7057 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if there was 12 V going to that solenoid. Good trouble shooting. Those critters love to eat wires.
@brownmilligan1936
@brownmilligan1936 5 жыл бұрын
you are to smart. hope you show fix. thanks for good show .love your channel.
@jamieshields9521
@jamieshields9521 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting boss had x3 JCB, NH n now Bobcat telehandlers, the first had same brake issues at 2500 hrs the NH was worst. It important to maintain n not to abuse or they become very expensive to fix. Telehandlers don’t like dusty environments especially Australia.
5 жыл бұрын
When I was hauling equipment I always liked the JCB equipment for their ease of operation and creature comforts
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
I like operating them as well, they are tough to work on and major components have to come from across the pond.
@Nudnik1
@Nudnik1 5 жыл бұрын
My 1994 Jcb 214 backhoe the relays were dirty contacts . Once cleaned it was perfect. I put grease on all electric contacts. I don't have the automatic shift though. Maybe there is a manual method to jump shift coils individually to test in each range to rule out hard failure in trans and point to shift computer or wiring relays etc.
@marknewell7355
@marknewell7355 5 жыл бұрын
We had one do same ended up been a valve interested to see what you find Warren mate
@blacksmoke5009
@blacksmoke5009 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like another case of run them hard and put them away wet! Lol! Nice troubleshooting bud thanks for sharing, hope all is well 👍
@LextechLighting
@LextechLighting 5 жыл бұрын
I had an issue once with a similar situation on a different machine where stopping the engine and restarting would "fix" it. Turned out there was a piece of material on the screen that would fall down when the flow stopped and suck back up after a while once restarted. Then it would block flow and the issues would come back. That was a tricky one.
@suzylarry1
@suzylarry1 5 жыл бұрын
this is one of those PROBLEM CHILD cases that may/should stick in the back of your head.When you pull it out , hope it jumps right out to your face , then say I TOLD YOU SO...CHILD ! in the old days of books, there was always a page folded to the issue, now with computer everything , it's a little more difficult. Great video of elimination work !
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL 5 жыл бұрын
always test not guess, great job.
@jrneff9773
@jrneff9773 5 жыл бұрын
wish you would do a video on where to buy service information and the tools needed to talk to john deere new Holland case and jcb please think about this
@tyorkshireman5678
@tyorkshireman5678 5 жыл бұрын
jcb pressure ports are different and unique to them. u have to remove the ports fully or get the correct adapter fitting.
@deerezilla7013
@deerezilla7013 5 жыл бұрын
Warren I here I got you some work from burns ORI sent Matt your way with his 6400 I’m to busy to do it so I’m very happy your doing the work for him.
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, he called and said Nick told him to call. Ok thank you very much.
@deerezilla7013
@deerezilla7013 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks I would like to have a beer with ya and talk some stuff with you later I’ve been telling lots of guys about you your the real deal
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
@@deerezilla7013 I'm going up to Baker City next week to work on a Cat maybe I'll get ahold of you on the way. Contact me at wlrfixinit@gmail.com
@deerezilla7013
@deerezilla7013 5 жыл бұрын
Yep that’s me I’m Nick Gouveia he’s going to be talking it down on Tuesday what’s funny he sold it to my neighbor when you finish it. I’m a big fan of yours I’m a jd tech but a farmer I’ve been telling lots of people about you and give them your number
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
@@deerezilla7013 Thank you, I really appreciate it. That's my email address on the last message , I'll give you my number there and I'll see where you're at next week when I'm heading through there
@johnofferman5814
@johnofferman5814 5 жыл бұрын
Do you ever go on vacation? great videos keep up the work.
@amishmilitant4618
@amishmilitant4618 5 жыл бұрын
Everybody has different brands of equipment and you have to try and remember it. Trying to keep the information in your head in the right file cabinet of the brain. I grew up with everything in written manuals, now everything is on the computer. I don’t know why, but for me, I can fathom the information out of a book quicker and more clear to me. Takes me longer with the computer.
@spicyF1
@spicyF1 5 жыл бұрын
Case: We have the most Finky Transmissions JCB: Allow me to introduce myself
@toddwilson1599
@toddwilson1599 5 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely low tire pressure causing displacement in the pherical occillating chamber.
@brad5750
@brad5750 5 жыл бұрын
Love the channel !!
@heavymachinery2843
@heavymachinery2843 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video thank you for your Information
@isaakgiesbrecht-l1x
@isaakgiesbrecht-l1x 11 ай бұрын
Yes sir I watch quite a bit of your videos Learned a lot, real good videos. I have a question. I have a 525 JCB telehandler with a code U 1504.88 hydraulics are not working CAN wires test good. What else could I check? I do have some open ended CAN wires, can that cause it?
@scottgibson7534
@scottgibson7534 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Warren, guess we wont know for definate until the update, but after checking for pressure 7 bar by the way is almost 102Psi not 10Psi, as the oil smells burnt drop the transmission oil look for particles and also the screen filter. I might be telling you how to suck eggs as they say, but that would be my next move.
@mpstenz3520
@mpstenz3520 5 жыл бұрын
The watchahmacaulit is failing.
@makingithappen9722
@makingithappen9722 5 жыл бұрын
I was already lost on that chart in the laptop.
@bluedeckelectronics
@bluedeckelectronics Жыл бұрын
GOOD VIDEO !
@BabtaiRTK
@BabtaiRTK 5 жыл бұрын
I fix those Yellow things as a day job , u should inspect the wiring ( probe the soleinoids ) , Those codes are fairly limited i believe they only show disconnected soleinoids it cannot detect a stuck soleinoid or slipping clutch packs . And we changed a couple of ECM's over the Years mainly for not powering the 4wd soleinoid. Sticking soleinoids are common issue , mainy due too burnt clutch disc saturated Oil . And we use a Truck Hoist to remove the Tranny so its not that miserable , two people can do it in 4hours easy. disconnecting the engine is another 4 hour job . and then u have too pull the pumps (or disconnect the hoses ) too . When u pull up too 4 a month that time adds up quickly .
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
Well there's not 2 of me.
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
And I don't have a truck hoist , so engine and transmission are coming out
@isaakgiesbrecht-l1x
@isaakgiesbrecht-l1x 11 ай бұрын
Could you tell me the problem with a U 1504.88 code? CAN wire's test good. I do have some open-ended, CAN wires
@technicalgyan769
@technicalgyan769 5 жыл бұрын
How to use AEB device in jcb transmission? Please upload one video
@scottlundy257
@scottlundy257 5 жыл бұрын
Just a thought could the parking brake be coming on ? had that happen to a john deere once
@randyhughes5160
@randyhughes5160 5 жыл бұрын
Not if one strand was passing electric it would not carry the load but would not show open
@vaughndibble4598
@vaughndibble4598 5 жыл бұрын
time to call the owner and tell him or her to get in there back pockit and let $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ out
@MrBugsier5
@MrBugsier5 5 жыл бұрын
Broken return spring in that pack? (piston) When you cut the engine the pressure is gone?...
@rogerjohnson6218
@rogerjohnson6218 5 жыл бұрын
nice ..? did you call JBC.. and ask them about it ... and to see what thay say..?
@markarmitage7411
@markarmitage7411 5 жыл бұрын
Would swapping the shift solenoids around make any difference? See if the problems move as well?
@taddeojajo
@taddeojajo 3 жыл бұрын
My jcb gear 1,2 is okay but gear 3,4 problem while driving it's not giving enough power. Can you please explain me the problems
@steelfabmechanic6545
@steelfabmechanic6545 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Warren, what computer diag and info program do you use on your laptop?? I'm a mobile mechanic too and am finding I need a good service aid to have with me
@Louismcauley
@Louismcauley 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you get your shop manuals, jcb manuals are very hard to find here. Also are you able to connect to jcb machines with your laptop and if so how?
@bryanmarshall9667
@bryanmarshall9667 5 жыл бұрын
I worked on a JCB backhoe with much the same symptoms years ago. It turned out the operator put the direction clutch into "Angel gear" then when the speed frightened him, reselected drive fwd and burnt the clutch. Man they were warped something bad... Pressures were ok... Are you able to get a download and check engine rpm vs road speed?
@masternus
@masternus 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a PDF you download or is it a website for the manual
@kevinmaharaj08
@kevinmaharaj08 Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain me why my JCB bringing up a p2ba9 code p204f and p207f codes .u would help me alot
@critters5236
@critters5236 5 жыл бұрын
Love watching you troubleshoot you're a pretty fart smeller I mean smart fellow lmao
@paulk3408
@paulk3408 5 жыл бұрын
What software do you use to pull fault codes?
@skliros9235
@skliros9235 4 жыл бұрын
Press and hold the info key for like 20 to 30 seconds and you can get into diagnostic and service reset menu.
@samrugtiv3839
@samrugtiv3839 5 жыл бұрын
Needs the old one two
@blackdogexcavator21
@blackdogexcavator21 5 жыл бұрын
You said at one point that you finally got it to throw a code, did you ever read that code?
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
My ass wasn't in the seat.
@blackdogexcavator21
@blackdogexcavator21 5 жыл бұрын
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 ha ha, thanks.
@chucklesx
@chucklesx 5 жыл бұрын
@Northernfarmer had similar issues with a case tractor... if I remember correctly it was to do with a fault in the switch for the powershift, it was energising two clutch packs at the same time. I'll see if I can find the video where he explained it. Edit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnzWlXWkq8uobrs
@chuckychuck
@chuckychuck 5 жыл бұрын
The pete is gone.
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
Been gone for 2 or 3 weeks.
@chuckychuck
@chuckychuck 5 жыл бұрын
Ok!! thank you, the last video you put up you said you was going to take it for a test drive because she was done and ready to be pick up, I thought I missed it, I watches all your notification videos.
@ciaranconeely8579
@ciaranconeely8579 11 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍.
@kevinwenzel324
@kevinwenzel324 5 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time sourcing affordable parts for JCB. I had a dealer quote me a price of 2200 US dollars for a windshield wiper arm last week. They do have a lot of BPT fittings that seem kinda oddball if you work on mostly Cat Deere stuff.
@actorzone856
@actorzone856 5 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be great if manufactures made their machines accessible, cab raised up or something, so people don't have to crawl about in pokey places trying to fix stuff.
@randyhughes5160
@randyhughes5160 5 жыл бұрын
You did not check the power to the check valve it could be a broken wire
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 5 жыл бұрын
It would throw an open circuit code
@davidhaley7053
@davidhaley7053 5 жыл бұрын
I have a video on how to fix it... just kidding. I'm not that smart.
@astrojw1039
@astrojw1039 5 жыл бұрын
JCB.exe has stopped working
@jeffreyboggs8767
@jeffreyboggs8767 5 жыл бұрын
SHAFTER BAD.
@thebadwolf7687
@thebadwolf7687 5 жыл бұрын
I saw the problem from the start, plain as day. It says JCB,.lol
@samrugtiv3839
@samrugtiv3839 5 жыл бұрын
Pressure test is what you need to do
@Ditcha1
@Ditcha1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol its a JCB
@andrewdavies438
@andrewdavies438 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t even buy a jcb there just unreliable and cheap
@shaneandrews6012
@shaneandrews6012 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is with your JCB transmission is it is a JCB. JCB stands for junk constructed badly.
@gregshearer423
@gregshearer423 5 жыл бұрын
Shane Andrews a wouldn’t quite go that far there pretty decent machines but there is better out there
@shaneandrews6012
@shaneandrews6012 5 жыл бұрын
@@gregshearer423 They are total gash. Poorly put together and start to fall to pieces about an hour after they turn up from brand new. They are total crap to work on you can't get it anything. The part or totally overpriced. And the dealers are nothing more than f****** rip-off merchant's. Have had nothing but bad experiences with junk constructed badly.
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