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[@anthonydotb]

You sir, are an inspiration. I love seeing big red go off-road! JLR should sponsor you.

[@DrivenHard]

Lol love reading this man. Thank you!!

[@reviewerbibhuti5100]

I don’t think because anyone loves his car any thing ok

[@jeff1595]

@@reviewerbibhuti5100 Grammer has left the chat.*

[@mrpusten]

Your Range Rover must be so happy it has an owner that let's it do fun things.

[@DrivenHard]

hahaha yes she enjoys herself!

[@congame11]

Ur gonna have to put Offroad tires on the range rover

[@DrivenHard]

Well I did make it through on these no problems lol

[@sjones2954]

Driven Hard is absolutely spot on for this channel. Bad ass!

[@DrivenHard]

I do my best to live up to the name! Thanks for watching!

[@doggedlydetermined7022]

Awesome vid! The beauty of the Range Rover is that on the way home from off roading you can keep up with serious sports cars then take it to a fancy restaurant in the city with the massaging seats on. They do everything so well. Fellow L494 owner here!

[@DrivenHard]

100% man, its the perfect all arounder I would say! Its great for any situation you find yourself in

[@somebody6122]

If they could get their reliability to toyota standards this suv would be the best car no cap

[@DrivenHard]

@@somebody6122 but then it wouldnt be a Range Rover product at all. They are all about being at the cutting edge of the car tech game as one of their selling points, Toyota isn't. They want the tried and tested, slow to advance model with = reliability you can't argue with. I'd say Porsche is the only one who has kinda come the closet to being bullet proof and cutting edge with their tech, but I don't have enough experience with Porsche yet, os that will have to wait lol

[@doggedlydetermined7022]

@@DrivenHard agreed. They are such fantastic cars it’s worth a minor hiccup here or there. And let’s be honest, with a warranty who really cares about the reliability. Anyone can buy a Toyota but they’re just super unexciting imo.

[@somebody6122]

@@DrivenHard dont get me wrong, i love range rovers and i would pick them over any toyota. But if they would also be as reliable as toyotas are they would be just perfect. But rn even tho they arent the most reliable they are still worth it

[@paulgenest4702]

That video just made my day man!!! I use to have a 4Runner, now on a 2017 Sport Autobiography Supercharged V8 and I absolutely knew you could keep up with the Jeep! 😁 The tech behind our beasts can take us pretty much anywhere. Keep those videos coming friend! Cheers!

[@DrivenHard]

Thanks for the feedback man! glad to hear you made the move to a RRS! It must have been quite the experience

[@trishabanzon1525]

Your best video yet! Truly loved this and proud of how your RRS performed 👍🏿👍🏿

[@DrivenHard]

Glad you enjoyed it Trisha

[@somebody6122]

Damn i think u’ll need to check on 2022 V8 defender when it comes out 😳

[@dafyddhumphreys8921]

That rangerover did well in the water, nice bow wave. Awsome video and car. Lol range Rover should sponsor you.

[@khalidanwarchoudhry4347]

Lovely content. I am surprised about less views. You are great in these videos. Keep posting good contents

[@300bhpton]

The Defender was never based on the Wrangler. The original Land Rover prototype in 1948 called Centresteer was assembled on a Willys MB chassis. And the MB served as the inspiration. But from the outset the Land Rover was far more utility and agriculture based. The first coil sprung Land Rover was introduced in 1983/4 which stayed in production (with evolutionary changes) through to 2016. And was rebranded as a “Defender” in 1990 to distinguish it from the then new Discovery line of vehicles. The Wrangler while an evolution of the CJ didn’t actually come into existence until 1987 and didn’t gain coil suspension until 1996. Some 12-13 years after Land Rover. Not knocking either brand, as I’m. Huge fan of both! Nice video btw 👍😁

[@DrivenHard]

Bro thank you the extra nuggets!! Appreciate it!!

[@shepchester3567]

Great video, fantastic trail, and as always its impressive what the RR Sport is capable of, and how far you will push it, especially with those tyres! Good bunch of guys by the way.

[@DrivenHard]

Yes I was pretty impressed as well with those snow tires.

[@shepchester3567]

@@DrivenHard Being an English chap I'm going with "Tyres" 😉

[@Klacskalias]

Damn, you make me wanna take my ride for a spin really hard. Love your energy and passion! That range rover is no joke, i'm impressed. Subscribed 👍

[@DrivenHard]

Thanks Robert, yup although the image of Range Rover has changed a lot of the years, they still old their own on the trail with the best of them

[@Vagabond_with_camera]

Thanks for the video, man. Have been looking for RR Sport vs Wrangler for a while. Now I know what my 5.0 is capable of. Keep these videos coming. Best regards from snowy Russia

[@DrivenHard]

Appreciate it man!

[@UnwindingRoads]

That's awesome you wheeled that thing. Scrolled through your channel this is the one that spiked my interest. Awesome work Emeka 🙌

[@DrivenHard]

I knew me going out with a built out Wrangler would get some Jeep attention. Lol. Yup it was an amazing time on the trails. Love following your adventures with Sean and the crew. Just never knew you had your own channel!

[@UnwindingRoads]

@@DrivenHard I have a buddy that brings out his lr3. Even then the technology was pretty impressive. Yours is like a space ship in comparison. I feel like you need a pilot license to drive it! 😂Looking forward to your future videos 🤙

[@DrivenHard]

Nice man. Really appreciate the comments. Keep in touch! 🙌

[@congame11]

Holy Crap dude! Ur growing fast, last week it was like 1k subs, I have been here since like 300 Good job man!

[@DrivenHard]

Appreciate the support man! Yup you were on of the first people I would regularly chat with in the comments 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@congame11]

@@DrivenHard :)

[@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618]

Great video I was rooting for the range Rover the whole time!!

[@DrivenHard]

Thanks for watching man!

[@alyintexas610]

Great video.... bring on some more! That RR can take the range just like any other, all things considered equal 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@VehicleVisionary]

I was super impressed with everything your Range Rover took. That was awesome! I can't wait to see what else you can do. I wish we had terrain like that where I live so I could make a similar video. LOL

[@kaelhubcudmore8894]

Dude, thanks for this video. Maybe I'm the only guy cross-shopping these two, but hey - we do things certain ways in BC. Super appreciate this vid. Drive hard.

[@DrivenHard]

Lol we are built different in BC bro! Have you come close to making a decision?

[@watskeburten]

The whole time I was thinking about your paint with those tree branches and wheels if you lose grip.

[@ms8742]

Not surprised at all to see the RR sport do well. I have a 2013 Sport Supercharged and a 2017 Sport SVR. I off road the 2013 and it's handled everything great. It is really good in deep sand as well. I would put it against a Jeep in sand with stock tires all day.

[@jlambson88]

About to the pull the trigger on a 2017 RRS for the primary purpose of hitting the trails. Glad I won’t be the only one pushing it to its limits

[@DrivenHard]

Hey man that's awesome. It's a whole different type of off roading experience

[@jlambson88]

@@DrivenHard it’s the best off road experience! Used to have an LR4 but I’m stoked to put a RRS through its paces. It’s just a shame it’s almost impossible to find a pre owned with all the off road goodies.

[@GregPeters1]

This is one of the best videos, of this type, i've seen! RR should be cutting you a paycheck, Sir!

[@DrivenHard]

Hahahaja Greg, really happy you enjoyed it. 😉

[@BillyRayValentine83]

🙌🏽🔥🔥🔥best yet‼️

[@shornsparks20005]

hi the road noise is very minimal inside the vehicle and the vehicle ride is really nice only thing I have to watch is cornering on the road in wet weather the grip is not as good

[@waphelps1]

Love this! I have a 2019 RRS Supercharged and this is inspiring, but… what prep do you do? Body work is $$$ I already cracked the front where there should be a skid plate. Wish the RR had some real underbody armor.

[@DrivenHard]

As long as you don’t hit the aluminum panels body work is dirty cheap. The lower front bumpers (3 part section) I’ve beat those up and got them repaired multiple times. Kinda a pain but those are what hit the dirt first. No prep work. Just out and rock and roll 😎

[@greteteg]

try offroad tires on the range rover it will make a huge difference, speaking from experience.

[@marky0071]

Great upload! Thanks very much, man. A+

[@WOLFPAINTBALL]

Amazing video, you should have switched vehicles for a bit to get his reaction, also i would have liked to see sonar when it got really deep! MORE PLEASE!!!!

[@DrivenHard]

Ya that's a good idea. Honestly I'm just super new to this style of videos. So planning them out, shooting angles and remembering to film everything is still a massive learning curve for me

[@sergiiche]

I almost never leave comments... But this, it's so impressive! Unique content, I like!

[@DrivenHard]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@LoubiGrl]

I love my RR Sport , gets me over the Sierra Nevada mountains in 15 ft of snow like a beast that it is!!!! Love this video!!!

[@DrivenHard]

Glad to hear it!!

[@MrJTB29]

Did you use the all terrain progress control (ATPC) feature at all on this trip? If so did it make a huge difference?

[@DrivenHard]

On this trip no. No need to. It works wonders in very slippery conditions but I don't use it a ton

[@mrdlewis22]

When you hit like before even watching because you know it's gonna be epic lol

[@DrivenHard]

Lol thanks bro

[@JarnautPD]

Awesome videos - really like them

[@DrivenHard]

Glad you are enjoying them

[@Fractal379]

A year late but you still deserve the credit. Good job! Hope yr well.

[@AdrianKurian]

The only gripe I’ve on this channel is the video quality. Sometimes it sucks a lot. Mostly things go out of focus. You gotta improve on that bruh.

[@DrivenHard]

Ya, cause I just give the camera to who I'm with. Not every knows how to film properly. Eventually I'll hire a full time videographer but till then, you are stuck with it lol

[@whimsical_rosie2538]

Soooo cool you do what every RRS owner wants to do but dares not. 😅. Living vicariously

[@DrivenHard]

Always 😎

[@un-trackable5705]

I would do this with the fam, if I had a capable ride. Good video.

[@robsilv148]

Wow awesome video👍

[@brentonhood]

Where exactly was this filmed? Would love to go there sometime in my RR Sport

[@DrivenHard]

Sylvester rd in mission bc

[@davidg.9942]

I gave you thumb up just 40 sec into watching it,,,, I freaking love it when you said ' I refuse to loose' and you just did it !!!!! Man you took your red boy where I would not have balls to take mine, but it is awesome to know I could do it as well- oh only if I grow some balls lol.... Get some 19' off road tires with higher side walls or Good Year Wrangler Duratrac 255/55r20 and go for your next trip. !!!! I will be waiting for it.

[@jmena19]

Great video man! Good to see you are enjoying it and it’s used as it’s meant to be 💪🏻 Good driving, as the LR saying: Slow as possible as fast as necessary... in some parts you just need to keep more momentum and it will take care of it. Get some 20 inch wheels and put on them some BF Goodrich km3s or ko2s... 🤘🏻 and you will be more impressed

[@richlittlewood516]

Excellent video, two different driving styles for 2 different vehicles and both driven well, buy some 2nd hand wheels and add some bigger off road tires on the Range Rover for playing out and you will be amazed. Dont drive a Range Rover like a Jeep or you will break some plastic and dont drive a jeep like a Range Rover or you will get stuck. Well done guys and if your ever in Alberta lets go for a drive.

[@jarodtupak7665]

Awesome! I own the same Range Rover Sport HSE but the P400e Hybrid.

[@DrivenHard]

That’s awesome man. How you liking it?? Hit any trails yet?

[@masanismasanish4h4h4]

Nice car, and nice video :)

[@ta3000]

That. Was. Ridulous...ly. Great. 20" + BFG AT KO2s and you'll surprise your mates even more. Great video.

[@DrivenHard]

Yes. Can’t wait to get some proper tires one day. Glad you enjoyed the video

[@sanimilla7032]

You sir have shown me how capable the RR is, I’ve always heard but never seen it

[@DrivenHard]

Glad I could help

[@freddygarrett]

Need information on a L405 off road

[@HoaTran-br9eo]

Nice video. I’ve been trying to get different tires for mine but with the brembo brakes you can’t find any smaller wheels to get good off roading tires. You can do larger tires but would need to lift. Been researching extensively on it. In addition to off-roading, I hear it’s a great at towing. I’m towing a 6k pound RV cross country this month with mine, so It makes sense for me to keep the brembo brakes. They’re going to have to make some all-terrain tires for 21 inch wheels. Its maximum towing weight is 7700 lbs (f150 is apparently 6k pounds). This truck/sports car is highly capable.

[@DrivenHard]

You can fit 20s without issues and there are lots of options for A/T at that size. Only Audi and LR use 21s primarily for their vehicles so tire makers won't bother making proper off road tries for them

[@HoaTran-br9eo]

@@DrivenHard my Land Rover dealer says that 20’ rims won’t fit over my calipers otherwise yes I’d get tires on them. I will go in and check on that again at some point thanks for the info.

[@DrivenHard]

Ya they need to say that. Go on to the range rover groups on Facebook and talk to owners. I've been told by multiple people who have the same one and they have all put 20s on there's

[@HoaTran-br9eo]

@@DrivenHard awesome thanks brother

[@tommykoko]

Hey man what trail is that?

[@balubalaji9956]

i love it mann... you are the

[@v8eaters321]

Great video

[@shepchester3567]

You often quite rightly mention, how important low range is. As a future suggestion, it would be good to see you tackle some technical obstacles with any setting other than low, and then with it, just to compare the difference, and to see at what point clever traction control (terrain response 2) reaches its limit?

[@DrivenHard]

I could do some videos like that for sure it's a good idea. The most beneficial part of using Low Range is CONTROL. You have so much more control over the vehicle at low speeds which helps prevent damange by hitting things or going to fast. Also when you are in high range and going slowly over obstacles, the car will tell you switch into Low Range mode, if you ignore it it will warn you that you could heat up the gear box too quickly since it's being overworked. It's all about protecting itself

[@shepchester3567]

@@DrivenHard That's interesting re the overheating warning. Ive obviously not pushed mine enough to see it.

[@freddygarrett]

Good video,,just having fun

[@danielatteberry2393]

Fun stuff! Wish I had the guts to take my Velar out like that! Gotta keep it pristine for the trade in!

[@DrivenHard]

Nah you don't lol 😈

[@BADBOY-xe4ev]

This place is so beautiful

[@robbietanker8671]

The Wrangler Rubicon is a Beast

[@fabiomiranda289]

Congrats!

[@DrivenHard]

Thanks

[@itsjustbonnie6418]

is there an offroad kit for this range rover sport ....

[@DrivenHard]

Aftermarket there are some modifications you can do to improve approach and departure angles as well as lift kits

[@versusbattle5916]

It's just awesome how casual yet crazy off roader range rover is at same time. I dont think any other vehicle can do that. If we take any off roader vehicle they are just not good family or daily office like car...... but man RR does both and that too being at top : )

[@brenoamaraldecastro5100]

Congrats from Brasil! 🇧🇷

[@DrivenHard]

🙌🙌🙌

[@Ryan-vu5xo]

Those are some pretty timid trails up there, try taking it on something that the jeep would actually have to engage 4x4

[@DrivenHard]

Didn’t want to embarrass him

[@urmomgoestocollege14]

The RRS V8 is like nothing else on the road. Simply awesome at everything.

[@DrivenHard]

Facts

[@joncscott]

Great stuff. But put some 275/55/20 mud tyres and a 2" lift on it like I did with my 2016, it makes a huge difference

[@DrivenHard]

The only reason I didn't is for my cross-country trips, it would be hell lol

[@joncscott]

Ha, know what you mean. I have 2 sets of wheels for mine. One with road tyres and one with RTs. I found that I'm too lazy to change them though so the road wheels have been sat in the garage ever since and I just put up with the drone

[@DrivenHard]

Ahaha that exactly what I am afraid of 😂

[@joncscott]

@@DrivenHard worth the pain when you decide to hit a trail tho'

[@MrLboydReacts]

FROM A JEEP OWNER PERSPECTIVE (2011 JKU RUBICON 6" LIFT 392 ENGINE SWAP ON 44' TIRES , AND 2022 JEEP GLADIATOR MOJAVE 4.5 '' LIFT ON 40'' TIRES , THAT TRAIL IS SUPEEEER LIGHT.. BUT SUPRISED THAT PAVEMENT PRINCESS MADE IT, COME TO THE NORTH GA MOUNTIANS ILL TAKE TO THROUGH THE PACES

[@DrivenHard]

Jajaja yup. Obviously the Jeep wasn’t sweating much. He didn’t even use 4Low. We wanted to see how far we could push the RRS without causing damage. We all know Wrangler remains undefeated and unchallenged when it comes to off road ability from the factory for sure. Seeing how a JGC could do this as well would have been a cool idea

[@gr8lakescrusader292]

I just test drove the 2021 Wrangler n Range Rover Sport. Annnnnd I bought the Range Rover Sport 🤟😎

[@DrivenHard]

Hahahaha well done!

[@samvibe5695]

Your videos are awesome.......u really explain everything............love you bro.... Are you a Nigerian

[@DrivenHard]

Hey man, yes I am. My dad was from there.

[@samvibe5695]

@@DrivenHard would loved to join you

[@catskillyeti2405]

Awesome place where is this??

[@DrivenHard]

Mission Bc Canada

[@HichamBerrada]

Startee motor still fine?

[@DrivenHard]

Yes

[@keshav4778]

I just love how the range rover does it so easily 😍🤩

[@DrivenHard]

Yup I was impressed too

[@j.jmcquade5278]

Been in both. Comparing a Jeep with a Rover is like comparing a basic apple with an exotic pineapple

[@DrivenHard]

100%

[@forestdreams9421]

With class and style

[@nawle0412]

Love for Land Rover ❤️

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

fun trip use them for what they where built for

[@DrivenHard]

It's the V8 for sure. Love the power of this engine.

[@Roverplug]

Brother you need 20' base L405 rims and better tires to have even more fun.

[@DrivenHard]

The full size one is just too big for what I want right now. I might get the new one when it comes out in a few years but I'm leaning more towards the next Gen SVR

[@Roverplug]

I mean the 20' rims from L405 not the car brother.

[@DrivenHard]

Oh ya. I see that, my bad

[@jewinranaweera5249]

Even I use a range rover same red color and its 2018

[@leonardolopesoliveira]

awesome

[@TJ-uj5hf]

Wait...Did you do this video with all season tires?!..

[@DrivenHard]

These were my winter tires. But yes all seasons would have done the same. Climbing the the snowy parts might have been a little bit more dramatic though

[@TJ-uj5hf]

@@DrivenHard oh cool! Don't you think all terrains would be better?!

[@DrivenHard]

Yup. But they don't make them for the 21s I currently got

[@TJ-uj5hf]

@@DrivenHard get BBS to sponsor you and hook you up😂😂

[@freddygarrett]

Did you damage something in the front

[@DrivenHard]

Nope, just some scraps on the rim. But it was already marked up lol

[@freddygarrett]

Ok cool

[@BADBOY-xe4ev]

Where this place ??

[@DrivenHard]

Vancouver Canada

[@bennaturan1537]

You sir need the full size Range Rover its better offroad it has more ground clearence better wading depth better approach/departure and breakover angles

[@DrivenHard]

You are mistaken about multiple things here already 😏

[@bennaturan1537]

@@DrivenHard I just realised my mistake sorry I have one question have you had any reliability issues? people are constantly complaining about the reliability of these I was wondering maybe you could tell me if its true since you “Drive it Hard”

[@sherniebuck4660]

9:53 well, basically what I said before he said what I said in my head.

[@robbietanker8671]

Big Range Rover Looks soo small with Rubicon by His Side

[@KN-lq4zv]

I owned both cars of the previous model. The Range Rover just can’t hang off rocks the way a Jeep does but is much more civilised getting there and the Jeep is the opposite. AND a convertible

[@DrivenHard]

Nothing can hang off the rocks like a Wrangler. It’s an absolute beast

[@memyself879]

Range River Sport, Swiss Army Knife that can do anything

[@ANiMOSiTYZA]

Pop some A/T tires onto the Rover for the next time. It'll do everything the Rubicons do ;-) On the Supercharged there's a specific 19" rim that fits, but there are 20" options available too. We've had a couple of Rovers and they're definitely underrated in North America.

[@DrivenHard]

Yes they are very underrated for sure over here. Thanks for watching Brad!!

[@ANiMOSiTYZA]

@@DrivenHard Awesome content, keep it coming!

[@DrivenHard]

Thanks man. The RRS is currently getting some TLC, so I am scrambling for content as we speak hahahahaha

[@scottriggs2592]

I got a 2009 Range Rover and I'm DYING to take her out to the country,,,,, It's a GREAT vehicle!!!!!!!!!!

[@DrivenHard]

Thanks for watching

[@reviewerbibhuti5100]

Land Rover need long tire size for off road

[@DrivenHard]

No you don't

[@clovism1449]

This guy should be sponsored by land rover

[@DrivenHard]

Or at least let me come to press events lol

[@artevolution0102]

Fucking awesome, mate !!!!!

[@DrivenHard]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@manuelacostaapodaca1453]

I’m which mode are you

[@DrivenHard]

Auto mostly since it changes terrain a bit.

[@DrivenHard]

During the snow parts I was in snow though

[@prashantshete364]

Range Rover Sport is the BEAST❤️

[@DrivenHard]

Agreed 😎

[@Foxtrot-h1e]

Чувак, тебе не жалко РенджРовер?😂👌

[@scottriggs2592]

🎵 Row,row,row your Ranger, gently down the stream, merrilly,merrily merrilymerrily your rigs red and his is green........🎵

[@DrivenHard]

hahahahahahahahaahhaah well done Scott!

[@user-in1tp4bx2r]

자랑스러운 rrs~!

[@AdrianKurian]

Honestly it’d be better if you removed the BGM

[@balubalaji9956]

please get a gimbal, the camera is soo shaky i got headache... please get a gimbal

[@DrivenHard]

Take 1 advil before watching lol. Yes I'll be upgrading camera equipment at some point for sure

[@shornsparks20005]

hiya my friend keep making the videos we love them but please please get some good tyres then you won't keep cracking your rims and you will have a much better result it's like you're trying to do Mountain climbing in slippers instead of good boots take care my friend

[@DrivenHard]

Perhaps for the summer, but I do enjoy the quiet ride of my performance tires vs A/T so we will see.

[@shornsparks20005]

thank you I have got Goodyear Wrangler Duratec on mine they are very quiet they look really good and fantastic off road take care buddy

[@DrivenHard]

@@shornsparks20005 how's the road noise compared to the Pirellis that come stock with them?

[@hotrodmercury3941]

I used to be really against Landy's. I'm a big luxury and Jaguar fan. But Landy's always made me laugh and think of some rap video. I always liked how they looked, but could never get over the rap star image. That was until my friend from up North got a range Rover I believe it's a 2010 Range Rover. He really loves that car and where he lives it's the middle of nowhere and there's a lot of mud and snow during the end of the winter months. So there's a lot of thaw, frozen mud and snow. One time he was on a video chat with me and I was joking about him driving a Land Rover. And he goes and he drives for about 10 minutes away from his house to this trail that leads off into the woods. It's got frozen layer of mud under some fresh snow. And it was somewhat deep, he poked a stick in it. I want to say several inches of mud and maybe a rocky layer underneath. I told him there's no way on his stock Landy, with moderate offroad tires that he would be able to conquer that mudhole. I watched him do it with ease, didn't slam on the gas and floor it like a jeep driver. The car handled it on its own and he had mud up some of the sides. I never doubted them since! Always wanted one. Especially a Gen 2 Defender. Anyways here's a cool fact about Land Rover as a company. I used to know a guy who was on the inside of the company and he said. That none of the ads on the website for Land Rover are fake. For example none of it is CGI fake stuff or fake backgrounds. They really go out on these trails and take photos of Land rovers doing these things. They actually got in trouble a little while back because they were taking pictures for the new 2022 Land Rover Defender and they went on a trail. When they posted the ad all these animal rights groups went crazy about Land Rover going and "trampling up" all these trails and running over little critters. The same goes for Jeep and they very much stand by their products. I don't hate either brand and I'm not knocking either. I like them both equally