Jehovah's Witnesses: Unmasking Materialism and Hypocrisy: Unveiling Life at Bethel

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In this episode, we will discuss JT's experience on what it was like at Bethel during Room Bid. What is Room Bid? Tune in and find out.
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[@b1crusade384]

Let me guess. No one was self-sacrificing. No one said - “Brother Johnson, you can have the room, I insist”. No, they hustled to get the best rooms like strangers and “worldly people.”

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Priceless post Lol

[@1968dogg]

"Sacrificing" to make a corporation profits? Foul odor up to the heavens........

[@compositioncompilation]

@@1968dogg just as governments do,just think of the lives that have been sacrificed on the altar of war..for the government to make profits in contracts to rebuild the country after destroying it with weapons.. Theyre INSPIRED by it. It disgusts us..yes.. We see the injustice.. Why? We re made in Gods image. Not something evolutionists want to believe.. This is judgement against them..and fulfilled prophecy..or another example of following ..being obedient to the INSTRUCTIONS in Gods word. (psalm 119:105 & rev 16:13&14*) The DIRECTION * from Gods word ..Like a map which is being used to plot a course..at each turn..you accede to whsts required to reach the destination.. A perspective l hadnt seen as a witness..now that lm twice disfellowshipped l can see it ! The raging torrent of ezekiel was connected to the trickling stream..only distance made the difference.. It empties into the Dead Sea two furlongs away. .at its furthest point AWAY from the temple..where the GB are...yet it is THERE where the most dramatic results occur !! Sounds crazy to say it..but looks like lm the raging torrent. What we look on as prophecy..has more effect on the anointed who look on it as INSTRUCTIONS ! THEYRE the TWO WITNESSES of rev 11:6 . What are they to do ? .

[@bigboithe8th]

When you’re a young JW imagining being at Bethel, the reality is a whole lot different once you get there. Thanks JT for sharing your experience. I had family at one time at Bethel, and room bids is a real thing. It’s all about status and seniority at Bethel. No different than a regular corporation, except the WT corp employs free labor and is tax exempt.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Bingo!!!!!

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

​@@ExJWCriticalThinker Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????

[@leejohnson6328]

paul learned to do with little and much and many of servants of God suffer with needs

[@alexshatner3907]

@@ExJWCriticalThinker Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@toddhayes3506]

RIP 🕊 to All Lives Lost to watchtower LIES

[@videoprotectedcom]

So true, new generation of gullible humans coming up. They'll believe anything their loved (lost) ones will say.

[@toddhayes3506]

@@videoprotectedcom Scriptures says that a Naive person will believe anything but a Shrewd Prudent person questions everything!

[@marioescobedo5854]

Biggest genocide I’ve seen from a cult

[@leejohnson6328]

ones are deceived because of not obeying Jesus Matthew 24:4-5. exalting white people to unquestioned status is actually illogical for blacks given their record as to how whites have treated blacks in America. and Paul brought this out. and yet we gave these people unquestioned authority without testing. as the bible says we reap what we sow

[@toddhayes3506]

@@marioescobedo5854 you Reap (get) what you Sow (give)... the opposite of Love (Life) is Hate (Death)...

[@rmayerCPA]

I am always impressed with your professional presentation style. The JW trolls must hate your presence.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

We always ask ourselves a simple personal question before we put a Video up "Would we listen to this video if we were starting to re-examine what we have been taught all our lives?" As a jw we would look for ANYTHING to dismiss what was being said about the organization We use to do that as well so we know how that works We decided to take all those excuses off the table and force folks to deal with the issue and not the messengers Lol

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????

[@misterbeans6064]

Not only a wise but also a kind approach, and I think we all can appreciate it from pimq (physically in mentally questioning) to pomo (physically out mentally out). Thank you for your work.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

@@misterbeans6064 just trying to help others since someone took the time to help us

[@compositioncompilation]

Its so Exciting seeing prophecy being fulfilled ! The overwhelming reach that Social media has been seen , not just enabling an ex jw community to amass as one against the governing body, but worldwide..a phenomenon that the world has trouble policing ..with the young impressionable minds being infected ..parents have challenges keeping up with and limiting the exposures of the minds of their children. Ezekiel referred to the overwhelming nature of it ..describing it well..like clouds...clouds covering the land. An intangible..untouchable phenomena ..allowing us to write.. to anywhere In the world ..not on paper.. what an interesting choice of words he was inspired to use..describing this modern technological tool !! This cloud accompanies Gogs final attack on Gods representatives . Ezek 38:20-22 shows us how things will turn out after his mistreating Gods people.

[@Flintstonesfan]

I never imagined all this went on at Bethel. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Just think if a person knew all the things about this org BEFORE they would have never become involved

[@mimid.6675]

This video is on point ! I served in Nairobi bethel for many years. Most bethelites were materialistic and loved and lived the good life... especially the missionaries....one missionary couple had three cars even though they were assigned to the kingdom hall at bethel... The American Coordinator was a golf playing aloof brother who acted like a rich CEO , his close friends were wealthy local Jws Missionaries had a lot of money gifted to them when they went back home for vacation and related experiences of how difficult life was and how poor their assigned countries were ....while the reality is the missionary bethelites lived a very comfortable , sheltered life with a high standard of living unlike the field missionaries .

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

O yea the field slave and the house slave ALWAYS lived different lives Night and day Thanks for sharing it When were you at bethel

[@compositioncompilation]

Is it a bit like the double standards we see in governmental positions ? It should be , because this is what INSPIRES them as rev 16:13 says Such injustice truly gets under our skin.. Why ? We are made in Gods image !

[@compositioncompilation]

@@ExJWCriticalThinker as one example of the Anglo American world power being mimicked..Well played.. The

[@compositioncompilation]

@@ExJWCriticalThinker transatlantic slave trade overseen by ANGLO AMERICAN WORLD POWER ( Well mimicked..INSPIRED by the wild beast exactly as rev 16:13&14 says..) Now in this more ethically sensitive time people cannot stomach the harsh brutality of that era Seeing things very differently.. Treating others as slaves is not treating others as you would like to be treated. We see the injustice when we look at things from Gods perspective.. Those profiting from the proceeds of slavery in the past are in the spotlight ..will they make reparation..very different times. Decisions made by Britain and America again. Duplicity and hypocrisy are hi lighted again and again ..its OK for us to have done such and such in history but you can't do it now !!( as is the case with Russia seeking her lands back )

[@hustonmices3976]

A preview on how Jdubs will be picking their homes to live in paradise

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yes indeed

[@evisfree9639]

let me tell you a pioneer couple told me they would get more land in the new system, no joke. I asked him where’s the scripture confirming that, he couldn’t find it 😂😂😂

[@NashonOsborne]

Do as I say not as I do!! Thanks JT & Lady Cee

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yep all day long

[@DarthMagog]

Man they talked about Bethel like it was the Jedi Temple when I was a kid. I got so hyped to go there, started full time service at 18 just to get there. In retrospect, I'm *glad* I burnt myself out, because I wouldn't have made it a week with the cognitive dissonance. Thanks for the video J.T.!

[@beautifulbutterflyLove]

Thank you JT for this information. It's amazing how we were so oblivious to what really went on in Bethel. The picture painted was not the real picture.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Sorta like the end is AROUND the corner kept us going for decades Now our parents are in their golden years They were suppose to be under their FIG TREES

[@beautifulbutterflyLove]

@@ExJWCriticalThinkeryes, WT repeatedly spewed out false predictions and that's just sad!

[@melyndaduh3501]

​@@ExJWCriticalThinker This is going way way back JT to when I was a little girl. I'm 75 now. I always wanted to be in the paradise around the lions who would eat straw.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

My room didn't have a bathroom, but I didn't care. I loved my room, far away in a corner. Plus, my roommate was the head cook. This meant I got to influence the menu according to my tastes. Boom, bit(Beep!)es!

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

You were on the GRAVY TRAIN LOL

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Life at Bethel are my favorite videos.

[@Blade-ts9fr]

JT I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this to you, but these Bethel talks are great. I don't know what, but there's something to them. Insightful.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Thanks Just thought it would be good to let folks know what it looks like BEHIND the curtain Lol

[@melyndaduh3501]

​@@ExJWCriticalThinker Appreciated. 🙌🏽

[@reinaldofranco2966]

Glad you brought back this segment.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

You are welcome

[@byebyewatchtower]

Yes. The 107 building on the 5th floor was the single men floor. The bedroom had a sink in the room, a closet, and 2 beds. You had to walk across the hall with a bath robe. You would pass the elevator doors. I hope the doors will not open. Get to the community showers. Fortunately, they had separate shower stalls. Then, once done, go back to the room, dress up, and use the stairwell and go down 5 flights of stairs, go through the tunnel to 124 building for morning worship. Terrible living quarters with no full bathroom. The area in which the building was in one of the most luxurious areas in New York City. When they sold the place, I wondered what people felt about those rooms with no bathroom. Room bidding based on number years in full-time service or when you were baptized. Typical. I was sad when I left Bethel. But, 30 years later, I am extremely happy I left. Even simple motels had better living arrangements.

[@ed347MI]

I grew up in NYC and visited Bethwl many times. I had many family members in Bethel. I never aspired to Bethel life. I especially hated the parties at Bethel where the Bethelites looked down at any sister that wasn’t pioneering. Imagine a bunch of broke men judging someone else. 😂😂😂

[@jmbosquesillo7203]

Now you know why. They need a pioneer so they could get a better room. 🤣🤣🤣

[@MariaNunes-po5rc]

The big problem with most JW is: They feel superior to other people, and because of that negative feeling they become arrogant. It's because WT tells the rank and file they are the only people who knows the scriptures very well... But they don't... There is why they changed doctrines so many times. The Bible is available for the inteire world to read.... WT doesn't own GOD WT doesn't own CRIST WT doesn't own the Bible knowledge... They may print millions of Bibles but the knowledge belongs to Almighty GOD YHVH and Crist. and WT doesn't own people either. Cristians belong to CRIST He pay High price to save humans from our condition. Thank you very much.

[@melyndaduh3501]

​@@MariaNunes-po5rc I agree. 100%

[@charrua59]

Brother from Bethel in my congregation told me, if you have clash personality in congregation with someone, it really didn't matter so much, cause you saw each other just at meetings. When you hade clash personality in bethel, it was whole other deal. You hade to eat, work and spend 24/7 same building as person

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Great point Imagine being assigned to the same table Lol

[@glynnsmith4142]

Doesn’t the Bible say if you have a problem with another brother, go to that brother and talk?

[@MyThougths]

I love JT's stories ❤❤❤ Nice background! Thank you and Lady Cee for all your hard work

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Thz

[@fabiankeighran5350]

Well what's your religion now or believe and where have ur walk went

[@superdave1921]

JT, sometime I hope you address how rampant homosexuality is at Bethel. If you spoke about it in the past, I must have missed it. Love you and Lady Cee!

[@Smile342]

Hello sending my ❤❤❤❤from an English Congregation in the U.K . They are building a new Hollywood Studio near Warwick for millions of dollars in…the last days 😂😂😂

[@patriciabell3665]

So who knows when the last day is coming. As I remember the last day was 1975😢 that is what my jw uncle said Now it’s 2023????

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yes we must be in the last days for sure

[@Smile342]

@@ExJWCriticalThinker thank you for your videos 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤ You help people to open eyes about the cult in Warwick

[@b1crusade384]

My experience with Nigerian witnesses was different. They were self-sacrificing and had issues where everyone wanted everyone else to get the better things. American witnesses are the opposite, they seem more self-centered and looked out for #1.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

So true I have always found the poorer jw were the more seriously they took the "truth" It is under stable too because that was OUR only way out We saw the truth as a LIFE LINE TO a better life is what my mom would say JT

[@heassik3088]

​@@ExJWCriticalThinker I can confirm as an ex Jw from colombia

[@melyndaduh3501]

😮

[@steventheheretic]

Oh man. We were there at the same time. I remember ALL of this! I wish we could chat.

[@kerenngonga1008]

I really missed these stories. You guys are doing a wonderful work. ❤❤

[@jjporshay]

Wooooow! I really wasn't missing out on anything.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

You right about that

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@robynbass9636]

Ah, I know about room bidding from my jw sister & bro.in law from the Sydney branch. This was about 10 years ago, i dead now through. On day on the phone, i asked what they were doing in the afternoon, she said - we're bidding for a room & when i asked what that was, she explained because we have been here 10 years we can now bid to get a better room (it went in one ear & out the other) BUT - they had a double room with a ensuite - but because of their time already at the branch & the fact that he was a department head elder, they got what she called a large studio apartment. Bedroom space, with a adjoining lounge room & yes they got their big leather chairs out of storage & shipped down to Sydney. A kitchen off the lounge with a small table & chairs & a large bathroom. Because EVERYTHING has to be black, white, grey & chrome in my sister's happy place, they were allowed to have the free labour force redo all the tiles in the kitchen (at their own expense) & they made a space for a decent full sized fridge, microwave & not forgetting the large all singing, all dancing coffee machine. The apartment had full sized sliding glass doors onto a wide patio where she kept her plants, overlooking the landscaped grounds towards the acreage at the back of the accommodation block. Oh & they got their own car space instead of having to walk for ages to the big car park. She must of been very smug knowing she had moved up the accommodation chain because of her husbands status, no different to any other organisation - the higher on career ladder you climb, the more perks you get.

[@hektorlinko]

Glad to see a new video on the Life at Bethel. I love this segment playlist on the channel. A+++++ Thumbs UP!!

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Latindama]

Had no idea things work that way at bethel. When I would go visit it just seemed like this amazing privilege to live there. JW always made things seem like it was perfect but that is far from the truth. Very good video thank u 🙏🏽 for sharing your experience.

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@ld87111]

JT - I'm surprised you didn't talk about the upgraded furniture you could requisition once you reached certain levels of full time service seniority. That and the room bid process were interesting ways to cash in your years of full time service for something of value.

[@bobkriegisch2731]

Amos 4:4. “Let us go to Bethel to commit transgression”

[@curtainsup9]

you story reminded me of a shameful display at a convention. They didn't open the doors to the public until 8 AM, but a lot of us had gone in like 4:30-5 AM to prepare food ( when they did that )Just before 8 AM, they told us all we could quit our work and be ready to go and find a seat. It was the epitome of selfishness. They literally RAN ( I think Oklahoma land race ) to get the better seats-taking stack of magazines or newpapers with them so as to save seats ( and for more than just immediate family) Whole sections of the better seats were taken before the average person waiting outside when the doors opened got into the auditorium.

[@debragreen7668]

Jesus said you would have love among your selves. Watchtower doesn't have that.

[@fabiankeighran5350]

LoL I understand I used to do the magazine on seats, but as a older person I'm not greedy about a seat, sorry for my lack of knowledge, I'm not babtized yet but can't wait to get babtized as a Jehovah's witness, because I don't know which religion is better then Jehovah's witnesses still, and I still strive like a athletic, but not for people's thoughts but for biblical purposes, jw has best evidence, and evidence wins over all.

[@jiriovecka350]

I remember it too. In first 15 min there were no free seats near stairs.😂😂

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I was lucky that I got the best room in Bethel, Puerto Rico. Why? Because no one wanted the room furthest from the main hall. Me? I _loved_ that privacy. 😂

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Very nice One man trash is another man treasure Lol

[@jacquelinerodenbush6691]

One of the guys I grew up with went to Bethel for one year because the dad of the girl he wanted to court said she could only marry a Bethelite.

[@MariaNunes-po5rc]

WT puts to much propaganda about how good is bethel.. But some people they forgot what it's said on the 10 commandments. States,: You should not make any image of what you see, in the sky On the face of earth Or Under the sea. Promoting a IMAGE of a special place it's a form of worship... WHY?? To much propaganda,and attention concentrate on a building and it's group of people... WT doesn't keep a low profile about themselves,like Crist did.

[@opietwoep1247]

Love your story telling style. These are the same people who would camp out before a convention starts to get the best seats at a convention. I remember seeing elderly elders jumping rows of seats to get the best seat.

[@melyndaduh3501]

Trying to picture. 🤣🤣🤣

[@rockpadstudios]

I never ever thought of going to Bethel, institutional living would drive me nuts.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

You are correct It actually did drive many to nervous breakdowns Especially women

[@madebymarcus1]

This is my favorite series on the channel, the opportunity to peek behind the curtain is priceless 💯

[@boblakatos7894]

When we were at wallkill for Gilead we didn’t have bathrooms in our rooms they were down the hall.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Bidding according to seniority. Can the Watchtower be any more a business?

[@liamjay6181]

When I was a witness, I remember this circuit overseer named Moses Castro.. He would literally tell the witnesses what kind things he like such as cologne etc. His favorite cologne is called Gendarme and people would pick and choose the things he like so they could it give it to him before the end of his visit.. 😂

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@vaughnwoss4990]

First hand experience of hypocrisy among hypocrites of the so-called "bethel", and presented in a first-class, exquisitely brilliant manner. Great thanks JT. When I look back sometimes at the 35 years wasted with this Cult, I silently mourn regretfully.

[@MariaNunes-po5rc]

Be courageous. You are the only one. I was a faithful JW for 47 years. I,m 72 now. I ,m out for 5/6 years. Primary reason ??? CSA. In good conscience I can't accept gross imorality done against children. WT is a HUGE disappointment for me. I'm still a Biblia beliver and I read the scriptures frequently. The Prophetic book of Daniel chapter 11, 35 Speaks about a refinement among Cristians before the end comes. This refinament is happening right now. Don't lose your faith in Almighty GOD YHVH and Crist. CRIST is the Appointed judge for mankind including the GB. CRIST as a judge is doing a wonderful job How??? By exposing All the bad things done against the Father,s Name. GOD YHVH is a God of justice. Thank you very much.

[@MariaNunes-po5rc]

Correcting the frase: you are not the only one.

[@loungersclub]

A brother I met at a assembly told me he ate out of garbage cans at one point in his service to God and I thought I had it bad ,his experience toped it

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yet the big dogs at bethel are flying first class all over the world

[@winstonpeters8676]

My sister who is in her eighties, a missionary for 50 years dealing with cancer is telling me how much cleaning & household work they had to do

[@jtopdawg6]

Thanks again JT for another great informative video.

[@Chewy6screens]

I had 4 years of pioneering when I got there so I got the best room out of my group that I came in with

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

O man everyone wanted to be your roommate lol You indeed were big man on campus during your new boy years Great post Thanks for sharing

[@Chewy6screens]

Everyone else did also so that ment I could pick and choose witch I did

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses??????????

[@akatheheretic3014]

Wow !! 🙆 And to Think , about ALL the Complete Nonsense 😕 . . We were put through , as teens and Young adults . . Back in the '60's and '70's When it came to : "what Our choices Should be" at That time in OUR 👈 Lives !!! 🤨 🤦Smh

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

You stated that so well Just Nonsense !!!

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@bernadettekelly8165]

100% hypocrites...

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yep

[@Jordi7174]

Loved it.💛 I didn't get a good feeling when I went to the bethel house's in the 2000's.

[@dawnbehatin1224]

I love all of JTs Cheshire Cat smiles in those pictures 😂 📷 ❤

[@Justforthefifteen]

Production value in this video looking great! Keep it up Lady Ce!

[@THEC.O.VISIT.]

The Bethel version of "casting lots" 😂

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yes indeed

[@leighbotts9694]

JT is such an engaging speaker. I can always vividly imagine the things he talks about in his storytelling.

[@toddhayes3506]

Great Job Family

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

You are welcome

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@mikepuccini4932]

Marrying someone for perks is not the basis of a good relationship. I wonder how many of those marriages endured the test of "bad accommodations"? 🤔

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@kevinjackson2361]

Just, picked up your channel/videos on my KZbin feed..love it. Great stuff and well done...Thank you

[@geoffreybunting9837]

I love the way Bethel is portrayed as a prison. Perhaps Bethelites should stop calling them rooms and call them cells (cells in the sense of a room in a monastery, not a prison)

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@JVM-dc6lj]

JT, this was eye-opening for me! I’m not surprised knowing more and more since I’ve been out! I visited Bethel and saw the room that a single brother has and automatically believed that couples would get a larger room based on that being the only criteria. What a sham that is!

[@Rhinosaurus1000]

No surprise at all based on what I’ve heard. Thanks for the insight! Love this channel.

[@hoppersgamingvideos1197]

I experience the room bid in1988 about 4 months before I left. i was watching a friends room in 107 while my roommate was in our dinky little cubby hole in the 122 portion of 124. it was crazy all the question I got asked about a room that wasn't even mine. I got to the point where I made stuff up because it was dumb. I just wanted to be quiet and read my book. I ended up losing the room I had for 2 years and got moved to a 4 man in Towers. this was 2 weeks before I left. They moved my table also but I didn't even go down except the first day. didn't like any of them, they were all office workers and no interest in a short timer. I rate the overall bethel experience 7/10. glad i didn't fall prey to the lure to stay.

[@nazahmad2374]

Great video, thanks for sharing your experience. 👍

[@WJTM88]

thought you would like it

[@nomanbrooks2694]

I was in 107 as well, my roommate was Erwin Burke,

[@GoatlikePersonality]

I remember in Russian bethel. We lived two brothers in a closet and we shared bath with 6 finnish brothers living in the room next to the closet. When I say the bath was 100% discusting, I say because its thru. My barn were I keep the goats have better standard then this bath. I think the house was refered to as the yellow hotell or the yellow building. It looked like an old mansion that had been liberated for the sovjet people and the sovjet people never maintained since 1918. Those the got to like inside bethel had it so mutch better, in real western standard hotellrom. But the society also rented old wooden houses with sever mold problem. I remember visiting people and I was almost not able to breed inside

[@emmacharles8829]

Thankyou

[@Estee.Ar.6869]

Thanks JT for sharing that story. You really got to see the really ugly side of WT!

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yes you do and then you are told "Do not tell folks what goes on here now"

[@k.b7687]

Thank you JT for your work. Where did the apostle Paul say that you have to build Bethel and imprison people to work in that bulding? Where did the apostle paul write that you have to build Kingdom halls to gather and buy and sell and make millions of dollars and invest in stocks and real estate? The first Christians gathered in private homes to serve God. The Watchtower Society is a real estate company worth billions and their God is money.

[@johnwright6381]

😆😆 I never heard of this. Thanks, JT

[@ablue7335]

Loved this 😂😮😊thank you JT!

[@GoatlikePersonality]

We had a old singel anointed sister that were over 100 y.o. here at the Norwegian. branch. When they buildt the new bethel she said publicly that she would have the best room. I think it was a corner room with a nice view. And she got it. It was often told as an humoristisc anekdote that she got it and the brothers in the comity had nothing thay would say. I really liked this. The brother had to be humble and I think also they were ok with it. No one told us to stop telling the story over and over The Norwegian branch was actually a really nice place, but i learned that many of the bethelites were arrogant and thought they were better then pioneers. I remember asking them about pioneeering and there answer were; I was pioneering 2 years as a stepping stone to get into bethel. They did not talk about the people in the territory… it was just a steppingstone. After a while I thought Jehovah had created bethel to keep the inflexible fanatics away from field sevice… 😅

[@jasontorres7756]

I enjoyed watching this video, interesting observations, do you remember Brother Thomas Munn? He was an elder in the Spanish congregation I grew up in, a couple of times my father took me to the back room to have a talk with Brother Munn lol.

[@kacthinkforyourself6968]

I can only imagine 🤔, my parents always taught us even someone going to Bethel has to have a job. My father was always REAL and straight forward. No nonsense. I'm grateful for him and the lessons he taught us 👑🙏🏾🖤🌹

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

Love JTs smile

[@brendawilliams7208]

I was trying to see if I knew some of those bethelite, but thier faces was blurred out.

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

We respect folks privacy

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@cultimatic8927]

Excellent 👊🏽✊🏾🔥

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@sjtalksandlife]

That sound like a hot mess. I did my video on why I left the organization..feel free to check it out...😉

[@annabizaro-doo-dah]

When I think of how my elders and betters would describe Bethel and the saints that worked there being content with 50pence a month for a pair of socks it makes me smile. I was in awe of these saintly men who give up everything to serve their god in sackcloth and ashes 😂😂 oh JT you surely opened my eyes! When I think of Cee Bee Gee Bees, the notorious New York club where some of the wildest Rock parties with legendary bands and their groupies took place. And who frequented these dens of iniquity? You guessed it - watchtower Bethelites!

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

I like the king-size bed shown in one of the rooms. Hugh Heffner had a few of those beds in the rooms of his mansion.😵‍💫

[@barnyfife335]

OMG, this is an all timer for those of us that were there. You never made eye contact with a married sister (at least I didn't) if she was walking down the hall in her robe. I know this would not mean anything to a non exbethelite, but then there was location. I was in the Bossert when there was mostly worldly people in the early 80's. The rooms were not remodeled yet, they were not clean by bethel standards, and you had to walk 3 or 4 blocks to breakfast at the towers or 124, but we had bathrooms. And we could make more noise than you could get away with in the 107 and 124. Very few married couples, 6 man rooms. It was the wild, wild west! We drank a lot of beer over there. I also remember some people who had items of furniture for sale who would have a price tag on room bid day. Talk about materialism. And what we found important for a room bid? Does it have a view? Is the carpet new? How big is the closet? How close are you to the elevator? The clothing hopper? Yes, a non bethelite would never understand. Great job JT.

[@WJTM88]

O yes you knew not to look at that sister, most had their heads down anyway. They must have thought these "Brothers" are going to snatch my robe and here we were supposed to be willing to die for each other. Yes the guys in the Bossert PARTY CITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 6 MAN ROOMS the day and life of the Boys!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yep head town for meals since there was no dining room over there. as they say Those were the days!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@LittleRadicalThinker]

Oh boy, it’s only the ugly today. Work seniority!!!

[@ingramwright5399]

They do so many things that are of a 'worldly nature' inside and out of Bethel. I joined as a teenager (😢)and dove in head first. After a while I started to wonder if anyone was taking this stuff seriously outside of the Hall? From what I could see, everyone was sure keeping up on the latest cars and the latest gadgets.

[@tonyneal3266]

I know how you feel it felt like a social club at one point

[@FakefulandDisgracedSlaveClass]

Jesus: and the first shall be last, and the last shall be first Bethalites: *we just gonna ignore that*

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Great post

[@Bubbles-ym9mu]

They cast lots to upgrade their accommodation. You, Fifth, Goatlike, and Marcus experience took the scales off my eyes regarding bethel . I was trying to encourage family members to reach out. Well, i must admit i felt shocked ashamed disappointed.

[@thumbstruck]

Humans do strange things.....and then, dish duty and watchman duty.....

[@JERRYR708]

My neighbor was remodeling an elders kitchen. The elder kept telling him each day that the system is coming to an end very soon and to be ready. On the last day of construction my neighbor said to him: "If the world is ending so soon, why did you spend 40,000 dollars on your kitchen?" "Why not donate the money to feed the hungry ?" The elder told him "Good question, you have a point"

[@stevenminor2241]

SOUNDS LIKE PRISON..

[@lua334]

Coloca legendas para que pessoas de outros países assistem.

[@bevsmith5360]

My goodness!

[@loungersclub]

Friends are pushing and kicking others even the elderly to get a good seat at assemblys😂

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

Yep Hampton VA we would be at the door before they opened To get the best seats only to be put to sleep by the speakers As young 17,18 yrs we would go down save seats and go back across the street to our hotels fro get dressed We would save seats for the old friends too Then they made us stop

[@kerrydwyer1879]

I am so sorry for you all

[@ExJWCriticalThinker]

No need! We feel sorry for you! And like the brother said many years ago, if you're HAPPY with the way your life is, stay OFF of the Internet. Sounds like you've gone over board. Sheesh!!!

[@HelloHello-cr4yk]

Our previous co is a money collector. During his visit, well of course all the meals and accomodation is provided and yet he still accept the monetary gift after that brother treat him a meal to an expensive restaurant. Weekly roughly maybe he collect $1000, imagine if 8 consecutive congs. That’s like $8k! He get more than my salary! Also he’s accomodation was paid by the circuit $1600 per month.

[@aphillyate1]

It's less about "having more" than it is of "being superior."

[@AG-su4ij]

Bethelites were deemed extra holy in my limited view as I am someone who was introduced to all thing j.w when I was 30. I saw the Bethel brothers and sisters as sterling examples of pure devotion and self sacrifice. What made them extra special was their vow of poverty in my eyes. Now I'm flabbergasted to know they were so petty and pathetically materialistic!

[@jackthomas6952]

How big was a room? Like an Apartment?

[@evisfree9639]

An elder and pioneer couple told me they would get more land in the new system. He showed me a scripture that had nothing to do with them getting more land, got upset when I told him it didn’t make sense.😂

[@howardboyd7764]

Wow...... Just wow, "room bidding" based upon seniority with the company and it was competitive like any other "bidness"......smh....

[@compositioncompilation]

Not open to scripture we miss a lot. I never really knew rev 11:6 existed !

[@cookiedough3629]

Lol!!! Thank you for sharing :)

[@Aquamayne100]

when they left brooklyn, they'd bid on rooms while other bethelites were still in them. I had to move 3 times in 2 years while senior bethelites would get the day off to go into other peoples rooms, look through there stuff see if they liked it and bid on your room. I worked evenings and nights and had to wake up or leave on my time off so people could tour my room, bid on it, sometimes tell me to my face "im taking your room" which eventually led to being moved out of the building and into a trailer. smh. mind you, when you get there or anytime they feel like, theyll tell you you don get to choose your arrangements and that you need to be content with jehovahs provisions.

[@alexshatner3907]

Be aware that Mocking apostates as shown in this video that also publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary., it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is up building. “Avoid them,” says God’s Word. Other translations render that phrase “turn away from them,” “keep away from them,” and “stay away from them!” There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3, 4) Jehovah, the Great Physician, tells us to avoid contact with them. We know what he means, but are we determined to heed his warning in all respects? Apostates “quietly bring in” corruptive ideas. Like smugglers, they operate in a clandestine manner, subtly introducing apostate views. And just as a clever forger tries to pass phony documents, so apostates use “counterfeit words,” or false arguments, trying to pass their fabricated views as if they were true. They spread “deceptive teachings,” “twisting . . . the Scriptures” to fit their own ideas. Jesus Christ had foretold, the apostasy did not take in the entire body of Christians; the true, loyal ones were to be as “wheat” associated with “weeds.” After Christ’s second presence begins, invisible, in spirit, and during “the conclusion of the system of things” (then existing) a clear separation and demarcation was to be made evident. The “weeds,” “the sons of the wicked one,” were to be ‘collected out of the kingdom of the Son of man.’ This cleaning out of the true Christian congregation would leave a field of clean wheat; the false imitation Christians would be outside the true Christian congregation. Whereas the ‘weed-like’ ones would finally be pitched into the “fiery furnace,” the ‘wheat-like’ ones would “shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matt. 13:24-30, 37-43) This definitely pointed to the concluding portion of the system of things under Satan’s wicked rule preceding its destruction. The prophetic illustration of Jesus also showed that time had to pass before the ‘weed-like’ ones would become fully manifest, finally to be destroyed. Since the apostles knew this, their use of “last days,” “last hour” and like expressions in connection with the apostasy did not mean that they expected Jesus’ second presence and the subsequent destruction of the ungodly right away. Let no man seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”-2 Thess. 2:1-3.

[@Maja-re4mq]

Great 👍💖❤🤩😍💓

[@yolettemilord548]

Tell me about it, is Jehovah's witnesses materialistic, jealous and envious!

[@keithburton3713]

HaHaHaHa you guys are the best I guess there was no 75” flat screen tvs 😂😂I can’t believe the hypocrisy

[@gigs2riches892]

This would make a great Netflix series

[@kerrydwyer1879]

A travelling overseer..Hey ,they just do the same talk for 6 months-week after week ...That is not anything compatible with Jesus or the apostles..Sorry-This sounds twisted..I am sorry for you.. Hey JT. thank you(always both of you -& others you chat with- for your insight....Truly heartbreaking to be honest...BUT-So needed.Thankyou....Christian love from Sydney...In genuine appreciation...Kerry..Take care