Jehovah's Witnesses will NO LONGER DISFELLOWSHIP PEOPLE (well, kinda)

[@destinyia4458]

Getting disfellowshipped as a minor was one of the most traumatic things to happen to me. I was assaulted but I had to talk to 3 old men alone about what happened to me and then be shunned from my family even though they had the choice to not shun me.

[@elkowasaki]

I'm sorry. That must've been awful. Did your family just straight up ignore you or was it something else?

[@qaq554]

What happened, did you go live with a friend or did you have to live with your family?

[@Cfalconeri]

It is evil what they do to people. I feel your pain friend!

[@kokuhakuqiun4215]

I hope you have the support system needed after such a traumatic assault you were subjected to. It’s inhumane how people who’ve been assaulted will be shunned when they couldn’t stop it. Absolutely disgusting and sickening behavior! I’m sorry about what you went through!

[@tonismale7680]

My sister found herself in a similar situation. I’m so sorry.

[@APrftCrclTempest]

As a df'ed person who was cut from everything I grew up knowing, I can attest to the harm it causes. It's been about 16,17 years? And it STILL causes excruciating pain... emotional anguish is a good description . Ffs, in the extremely rare circumstance that I have actually interacted with my mom, she won't even make eye contact, won't even look at me. It makes my chest hurt. It all just...hurts.

[@lisajpsnowpeak431]

Your mom believes it love. That’s what this cult teaches. Hypocrite of the highest order.

[@Cfalconeri]

I am sorry and I feel your pain. Their leaders are a cruel and a vicious group.

[@jwprimetime9795]

24 years later and still the only on in the family to get out being Dfd. I feel the same way bud.

[@christinesotelo7655]

There are no adequate words to describe the pain these people have caused. I know too. ❤

[@giddygiddy5619]

Cult and family wrecker... stay away

[@deathdrivesapontiac]

Jesus: “Love thy neighbour.” Watchtower: “no, I don’t think I will.”

[@RagyRagd0ll]

Watchtower: Nuh-uh

[@silentcaay]

Also Jesus: "Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household." You can make the bible agree with any position if you cherry-pick hard enough. That's why there are a thousand denominations.

[@WhoWellOk]

@@silentcaaythat means all that choose him family will go against them

[@FrogCookie]

@@silentcaaythat means those in the family who don’t choose him

[@silentcaay]

@@FrogCookie Irrelevant for obvious reasons.

[@lorenisevil]

The fact they lump in apostasy, two adults consenting to a marital affair, with sexually assaulting a child is infuriating to the survivors.

[@christinesotelo7655]

The word “Apostasy” has been overused and abused. The GB has no Higher Education and the word sounded oh-so-serious and new to members. It was a scare word that became absolutely character-assassinating. Everyone who has suffered from this label should sue the bastuds.

[@lavender4658]

​@christinesotelo7655 not only that, but they're misusing the word entirely. Apostate just refers to anyone who has left a religion or political faction they were previously a part of. So in that sense, all exjws who are apostates. But watchtower uses it to mean anyone who speaks out against the religion. It's so harmful since disfellowshipping has broken families just because one person decided thar they did not want to be a witness anymore.

[@christinesotelo7655]

@@lavender4658 and in a sense, all JWs are apostates in that most have come out of some other religion to join WT!

[@PokemonRules333]

@@lavender4658I never been a jw but I might as well be an apostate because I call out the whole organization on their bs

[@BledaRassmar]

Affairs are absolutely devastating; I am really not a fan. Just because you’re no longer a legal minor doesn’t mean you can’t be broken and traumatized and hurt beyond comprehension. Why does that count less because you are now an adult and have to drag yourself to work every day and are all alone in the world?

[@oliviaswarden6077]

I remember when my childhood best friend sent her disassociation letter, she was 14. We knew when it was gonna be announced, so my mother took us to her home congregation explaining that we need to give her family support, it was like going to a memorial for her. It was so sad, she ended up being kicked out of her home instructed by the elders at 14 out on the streets. I was surprised her parents weren't reported to CPS.

[@Linda-ux8un]

What those parents did, is Not scriptural.

[@oliviaswarden6077]

@Linda-ux8un I agree. Even her older brother did the same and her parents kicked him out but he went to college though. Now, they have rebuilt their relationship after WT changed views on disassociated ones but she doesn't have any hard feelings but still glad she got out but unfortunately became an alcoholic and cannot remember her childhood. Which is so sad it was so mentally scarring for her. But she's living her life as it was meant to. I was mortified and worried about her when I heard she was kicked out of her home and angry at the elder for kicking her out but karma got him back by since he got so obsessed with her including me having spied on by him neglected his own daughter, she ended up pregnant and had to step down, 😅🤣😅 his obsession led to his fall.

[@DianePantig]

People in cults are so brainwashed that they do things that they would not normally do. These groups are dangerous because they play upon your emotions.Keep clear from these groups and don't get sucked in!

[@mamajan99]

I know a 16 year old who was kicked out of her own home by her two faced, pot smoking JW elder and cigarette smoking mother.

[@Xiiki]

What the fuck did she do to deserve that?

[@RealRabidRabbit]

JW: Welcome back, we're so happy to have you here. Disfellowshipped Person: You acted like I didn't exist for weeks, and now you're just gonna pretend like that didn't happen? JW: ... Disfellowshipped: Are you not going to answer me? JW: *walks away* yeah, so much better.

[@Vicki_Benji]

There is no free will in this cult without bad consequences.

[@Radrook353]

This is like giving the keys to apartments to dishonest maintenance people. They cannot control the urge to abuse the authority.

[@defaultdan9715]

"There is no free will in this cult without bad consequences." We'll free will doesn't exist anyway, but as far as any shitty ass cult, and during day to day life, this notion of "free will" does fool many people into believing that it exists because the cult doesn't allow you to do anything that you want to do. Things as simple as watching this youtube video here could get someone dis-fellow-shipped. It's so fucking stupid.

[@alicedowntherabbithole6456]

The Governing Body has decided.. indeed. Nothing has changed. And the likes of us will never be greeted! Good stuff as usual x

[@cellytron]

Wow, I’m so honored to have been one of the first people to hear about this tremendous and world-changing event

[@markweatherill]

Ho ho, at least you heard about it before most JWs will.

[@mamajan99]

They are taking the fun out of being self-righteous!

[@tattoodestroyer1663]

I was DF’ed for almost two years. The one elder in my committee told me to submit my letter one year in and then they rejected me. Mind you I had two other elders (not in my committee) review my letter and they loved it. Only to get rejected. Took another 8 months after that and two more letters. Then once I got back there was zero welcoming or any type of support to “get back on track”.

[@doglvr1]

So why are you still with that crazy cult? If you really need religion, find another. There are other denominations that are much more Christian and loving and non judgmental. Just stay away from other fundamentalists.

[@christinesotelo7655]

My JW bro tried to get me to reinstate after many years with the promise we’d be a family again. I sat in a downstairs basement with three elders, had to write a long-winded letter describing all the horrible stuff I went through out in the world (I didnt mention it was because I lost my friends, family, and everything by being ds’fd and shunned in the first place), couldn’t mention happy stuff at all...had to stand shunned in back of the KH for maybe a year or more while they “watched” me...I couldn’t do it. I ran away. It was horrible.

[@ShoNuffSoulBro1]

It’s all manipulation & controlling BULL SHIT

[@brianking9424]

I got back in after 2+ years out ( the best time of my life) I came back for my family and realized they were not real people. i had no connection to them and they had none to me. They took the word of three men they barely knew, and chose them over their own son. I switched halls and faded really quick. Never stepping in a hall again.

[@joanjohnson5973]

So basically its a play on words. The gb has taken the spotlight off themselves as the ones who insist on shunning and placed it on individuals in the congregation, yet their example still enforces the shunning rule to the rank and file. A simple greeting at a meeting and an invite to a meeting is not a major change ,however it may be enough of weasel words for the lawyers to use to win appeals from the country's that have defunfed them. As far as the rename of disfellowship to removed is still the same thing. No matter what they say in this article the results will be the same If you decide not to shun you will be marked. Nothing has changed, iys all about their funding.

[@andymuggloy6969]

Translation: Norway, pwitty pwease give us money~

[@RagyRagd0ll]

with chawwies on twop🥺👉👈

[@alans.wendelschafer6588]

Money, pwease!

[@PokemonRules333]

It’s all legalese they are just calling it by a different name

[@mamajan99]

Norway says NoWay!

[@imjonathan6745]

kawaii desu (- _-)!!

[@pohldriver]

I just saw an interview with a young woman from 2 years ago on "NOT THE GOOD GIRL" here on youtube. She was DFed when she was 15 and she's still not allowed to have contact with her family after being kicked out as soon as she had a job. I was baptized in '97 when i was 14 or 15. When i was 17, i was "counseled" on my growing a beard for the winter as a landscaper. I asked where in the Bible it said no beards. The elders couldn't answer that. So i just stopped going. I determined all religion was BS and became an atheist when i was 20.

[@syl_ster230]

Didn't... didn't every prominent man in the bible have a beard?

[@ilduce4298]

Honestly the whole Beard thing is what helped me wake up and realize that this religion is false, one of the things I was thought as a child is that if it's not in the Bible it's not true that among other things made me research the history of the organization and then I realized that they are a bunch of very arrogant men who make up stupid rules while claiming to be the same as Moses and that if you don't obey them and their every word you are literally worse than a child molester these days I am still a Christian but I am not a JW Anymore it's sad for me to hear you lost your faith in God because some charlatans created a stupid rule while claiming to be the supreme authority that God has designated today here on Earth ,I will pray for you, God bless you

[@pohldriver]

@@syl_ster230 precisely. What's really ridiculous is we were scolded for wearing fancy looking clothes. I wore a red shirt with a bright blue tie with SpongeBob on it, and I wasn't allowed to go out in field service because it might offend the Amish and Mennonite in the territory. Yet, both groups wear beards. They were none too pleased with my Three Stooges ties either. The guy I studied with always wore loud silk shirts, until they made him an elder. I heard he's left now too. I kind suspected he was gay, so, with the wider acceptance of LGBT, he may have just come out and be happy with who he is.

[@mamajan99]

We have a friend who was kicked out of her mother's home at 16 by her POT-Smoking step-father "elder." She was making him look bad to the rest of the self-righteous JW's!!! SICK PEOPLE!

[@AshleyRei-dk7kz]

Fun fact: they have now confirmed that men can have beards and women can wear pants

[@georgeporgy7568]

We will no longer call our shunning disfellowshipping.

[@mamajan99]

Also, We will no longer call JWs the "Truth"!

[@Artkatie]

I knew this was coming, at this point watchtower is becoming more and more predictable and at the same time ridiculous.

[@christinesotelo7655]

Ridiculous but truly desperate and they are digging deeper, trying desperately to put thing “right” (they are not) so as to avoid more litigation. It’s too late. And they won’t apologize, like stubborn spouses who won’t acknowledge wrong-doing. 😢

[@Radrook353]

Unfortunately, the new ones feel privileged to be blessed by new light just as all previous new ones have.

[@christinesotelo7655]

@@Radrook353 yes, I remember the “thrill” of hearing ooooo...New Light direct from Jehovah! Oh boy! We were so young and gullible. If the WT came out with New Light that said: “Jehovah has just announced that Santa Claus is to be the tenth GB member, all anointed and ready to bring pants and beard brushes to all good JW members!” , we’d have believed them.

[@mamajan99]

@@christinesotelo7655

[@scotttomlin375]

I haven't seen my parents/siblings in 20 years plus....i ran into my mother and sister at the store once i had my daughter with me and all they could do is say "oh hi." Awkward silence then i said hey this is your granddaughter she was 2 months old at the time and my mother looked at her and said "oh its cute" then they just walked away...i am dfed and happy to be awake but said to see my family kept away from me like so many others.

[@just42day]

As a former JW, I really wished I could have taken back those years. One of the worst religions in this damn world.

[@mamajan99]

When you get burned on a hot stove, you learn a valuable, life-long lesson: "Do not put your trust in men in whom NO SALVATION BELONGS!" Trust Christ who went through the same thing. He understands all too well their evil. He warned us. We didn't listen.

[@robertgrey6101]

@Just42day Religion?? SPANISH AUTHORITIES: A DANGEROUS HIGH CONTROLL CULT.

[@jonsoto8233]

Catholics: If you sin, seek forgiveness and consul. Repent and sin no more. After repenting, you are absolved. Protestants: if you sin, apologize to God and your sins are forgiven. Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses: if you sin, we kick you out of the Church and shun you.

[@vossiepop]

I'm a Christian and I approve of this message.

[@nikolais163]

hearing this makes me proud to be Norwegian!!

[@WitnessForJesus]

I love Norway and Norwegians ❤️

[@theconqueringram5295]

If you're in a group that'll shun you for disobeying the rules, that is a good sign to GET AWAY FROM THAT GROUP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!

[@mamajan99]

Christ is our only leader.

[@melissawickersham9912]

@@mamajan99Your comment sounds like what a member of a cult would say. Your Christ hasn’t spoken up since 33 AD. You are following someone who essentially left his worshipers behind millennia ago.

[@mamajan99]

@@melissawickersham9912 He has not left us. Christ's followers are born by the spirit in Him and He is in the Father. Those of the flesh can not hear his voice nor understand it.

[@DianePantig]

People should be able to leave a religious group and still see their friends and family.If a religion tells you different it's a cult and keep far away from it.

[@JaxsenVowles]

That describes society as a whole

[@ultimate_pleb]

We wouldn't refer to this as a ball anymore, we will call this a sphere * hides thesaurus behind back *

[@annemarie19553]

Ultimate_pleb, Oh, my God, you must be a GENIUS!!! 😂What a fantastic comment!!! Excellent!!! 👌👌👌

[@vikn331]

what a time to open youtube... ty for another de-jehova witnessing us session

[@roselynyoung3805]

Norway looked at watchtower and said 'no fucking way'

[@Duhble07]

The “hello” to a df’ed person in the KH is still subject to “individual discretion”. A few will be cordial, the rest will look down their nose and judge. Psychological torture. Teaching grown adults to say hello is reminiscent of Russians needing courses on how to smile.

[@mamajan99]

Saying "hello" takes all the fun out of being self-righteous.

[@mamajan99]

Their self-righteous, holier than thou attitude is a sinful fleshly trait. They feel so bad that they need a "whipping boy" to feel superior to someone.sick!

[@Jesse-1914]

9:15 Yeah that’s exactly what happened to me. Had to tell the elders and my parents that I watched porn and nut. Then what is even worse is that the elders that met with me told me they have to report it to the entire body of elders. Like 16 people got involved in my confidential matter when I had only opened up to one elder

[@thetruthk5138]

Perfectly normal to watch porn especially if you have raging hormones as a teenagers. All ridiculous Lot can get his Daughter's pregnant and David multiple wife's and concubines that's ok . It really doesn't make any logical sense. But it's all about CONTROL

[@mamajan99]

You will likely eventually find out about stuff that these "righteous" people are doing in private. We have been out of their trap 25 years and still are hearing reports about what was really going on in secret with the "Elders" and "Pioneers." Hypocrites have to find fault with others to salve their own warped conscience. Many of our self-righteous relatives were "as loose as a goose!"

[@fairydust981]

Omg i just wanted to say i got a pamphlet from a Jehovah witness. I got so excited because i finally saw the material that this channel talked about 😂 i lowkey wish i saw their magazine but i ended the interaction quick, im scared of free will taken away from me by Watchtower

[@andymuggloy6969]

Next time, give them an FSM pamphlet. 😂

[@roseNthorn]

JW'S: Now allowed to show compassion! But not too much.

[@mamajan99]

faux compassion.

[@Tonithemeloni04]

13:00 “if a person was guilty of child abuse…” Me: AND YOUD LET THEM BACK IN?!

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

hahaha. at 11 i was baptized. at 16 i told them i was done. at 18 they disfellowshipped me for registering to vote. this was 30 years ago

[@patriciapitt4228]

That's a great idea for Panda he could make a video on when dùnked and when out or new word removed ', Wee Wee you can start the ball rolling I was baptised in 1985 got out 2023,what a wonderful blessing,this will help many others to do the same, THANKS very much for sharing your journey ****🏡****

[@CircleGuyAndEnemies]

NEW PANDA VIDEO LETS GO

[@peachigo5495]

was waiting for your take on this 🙌

[@chimaXYZ]

I left on the 14th of March and I have never been happier

[@Ronnieb127]

A law needs to be passed regarding the cruel treatment from Elders when disfellowshipping. A close family friend ended her life at 21 years old because of how elders treated her, it is so heart breaking that they are “allowed” to treat people evil. Charges needs to be pressed on the Elders that did that. I’m so sick of the JW abuse, it has to end.

[@jasonuren3479]

We are not embarrassed about adjustments that are made nor is an apology needed for not getting it exactly right previously Yet the rest of us had to pay a penance for months or even years for not getting it exactly right. No double standard there, is there? 🤔

[@jasonuren3479]

And as for changing the term disfellowshiped for removed from the congregation, what does the Bible say about whitewashed graves?

[@Radrook353]

They are striving to retain the aura of respect related to their Fruitful an Discreet Slave claim in one way or another. An apology is deemed below their dignity. This is hubris based on pride..

[@ImMakurAHH]

Bruh,all they did was change the name. Going from disfellowship to remove is like calking duplicate from an exam instead of copying😂😂

[@kammy6340]

Questions by Readers is actually not from readers. I saw a video yesrs ago from a man that was at Bethel and said that any Questions from Readers seen was just WT using it to justify something that they realise is an issue. 😅

[@MichaelSmith-lm5sl]

Jehovah's Witnesses' disfellowshipping policies have been widely criticized in terms of human rights, particularly regarding freedom of thought, freedom of religion, and the right to family life. Here are some key points of critique: 1. **Freedom of Thought and Religion**: - **Coercion and Control**: Disfellowshipping exerts significant pressure on members to conform strictly to the organization's doctrines. Those who dissent or question teachings face severe consequences, limiting their freedom of thought and belief. - **Lack of Due Process**: The disfellowshipping process often lacks transparency and does not provide a fair or open avenue for defense, undermining the principle of justice and fair treatment. 2. **Right to Family Life**: - **Social Isolation**: Disfellowshipped individuals are shunned not only by friends but also by close family members who remain in the organization. This enforced isolation can lead to severe emotional distress and social alienation. - **Family Separation**: The policy can result in the breakdown of family relationships, as members are instructed to avoid all contact with disfellowshipped relatives, including children and parents. This contravenes the right to maintain family connections and can have profound psychological impacts. 3. **Mental Health and Well-being**: - **Psychological Harm**: The intense shunning and social ostracism can lead to depression, anxiety, and other mental health issues. The lack of support and community can exacerbate feelings of worthlessness and loneliness. - **Reputational Damage**: Being disfellowshipped can tarnish an individual's reputation within and outside the religious community, leading to long-term social and professional ramifications. 4. **Freedom of Association**: - **Restriction on Social Interaction**: Disfellowshipping policies infringe on individuals' freedom to associate with whom they choose. Members are compelled to cut ties with disfellowshipped individuals, regardless of personal or familial bonds. Overall, these policies can be seen as infringing upon fundamental human rights, including the right to freedom of religion and belief, the right to family life, and the right to mental health and well-being. Critics argue that such practices are coercive, punitive, and detrimental to individuals' basic human dignity and rights.

[@mamajan99]

Isn't it strange that "worldly people" have to tell JW's what loving your neighbor really means. sicko's

[@LoneWolfCodingProfessional]

then dont join who told you to join?

[@losborne5]

I remember being invited back. I said, Like the prodigal son?" I was told, "YES! Exactly like the prodigal son!!" I said, "And sit in the back of the KH for 18 months being ignored and shunned?"

[@Honeybee1091]

I’m still in therapy for jws and my parents covering up my sexual abuse & reproving me for it.

[@Mab_the_Destroyer]

I'm so sorry. That is a travesty. Punishment for the abused. I feel you. * cyber hugs *

[@jezebelrebel250]

THANK YOU for this video. I love all of your videos, actually. I spent 20 years in the JW cult (1977 to 1997). I was never disfellowshipped. Like you, I simply left to go to college and live my life as a free person.

[@vagabonddruid4045]

How does the congregation find out if someone was watching porn? These rules are probably the exact reason empty Kingdom Halls are popping up all over the world, I seen one end it up as an abandoned building on an Urban explorer video, one turn into a bar and restaurant and another that was turned into a weed dispensary😂

[@Justinya0]

Idk, somebody's family member walks in on them?

[@user-qo9is7sh2i]

Another possible reason is that their guilt is too much so they end up confessing to it.

[@katwitanruna]

The first baaaaa made me cringe!! Nooooo! I don’t have enough coffee!

[@mxnjones]

Stephen Lett is the human embodiment of cringe.

[@koralikarnia8863]

Same here. Each time.

[@benfox1462]

I am soooo proud to be an apostate.

[@badcooper235]

The thing about being disfellowshipped is it really hurts until you decide to not be a sheep. Then it's pleasurable. Not the family part that is still painful. Being shunned by other sheep is a compliment though. If Jehovah's Witnesses approve of me it would feel depressing. I don't want JW.BORG to like me. That would mean I am pretty boring.

[@Oklahomarailfan.]

11:19 sounds like they murdered them “Where are they?” “Oh, they got “removed” “

[@emmabunnii_]

Literally like wtf

[@Radrook353]

I never signed up to be judged by fellow sinners. Had I known that fellow sinner were going to judge me, I would have never joined their organization.

[@VincentEdelstein]

Watchtower is falling apart, it’s great

[@-starrysunrise-2908]

Putting apostasy, "scheming to end a marriage", and CHILD ABUSE on the same level is crazy And by "crazy" I mean evil, not insane 💀

[@markweatherill]

How fortunate that a 'reader' should write in with this question at just the right time, eh.

[@RobbieJayOne]

how about saying “deleted” like they use for removed elders?

[@Mab_the_Destroyer]

Like they were only a computer file, not a person...

[@ZackBurnsOG]

15:13 LOL they didn't even use the new language, they still called them disfellowshipped instead of removed. It just goes to show you the governing body didn't actually change anything in their hearts or minds, they just made the language change as a show for the world.

[@Mab_the_Destroyer]

Yea, well no one is going to be tricked by these idiots again. Small favors.

[@Tabascofanatikerin]

I checked the translation of the "disfellowshipped/removed" passage in my mother language, German. There it is called: "aus der Versammlung entfernt werden" (literally "removed from the congregation"). And for a German-speaking person is also sounds as bad as the English text (at least in my personal opinion), like a person is escorted or carried out of a congregation.

[@gustavfromswamp]

I feel illegal to be here this quick

[@elkowasaki]

FR LMAO

[@gustavfromswamp]

@@elkowasaki real ~Kowalski

[@b4ph0m3tdk9]

Ohh yes this is big. Thx my favourite red panda.

[@Lisa-x3n5x]

It's all weasel words, watered down over time. Excommunicate = disfellowship = remove. What's next? Added: at least they said child abuse before apostacy. And their grammar sucks. It should be "if a person were", not "if a person was". It's the subjunctive case where the singular noun takes a plural verb. Think of the song "If I were a rich man"

[@michellemooney1460]

The laughing about them making changes after they said they never would made me choke on my toke! That made me bust out laughing! Too hilarious!

[@katwitanruna]

So to try to get someone to come back we’re going to treat them like a pariah? How does that make them want to be around you? Huh?

[@SonjaStroud-mu6vi]

And verse 15 continues Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

[@Sittingstraight12]

To the outsider… that looks good but within… they know that association with the outsider is still the same as DF’ed ! Watchtower always covering their asses!

[@deanjames2476]

I hope people sue them for the distress and anguish they have caused to thousands if not millions over thd past 140 years

[@blackfoot7925]

How do you welcome back someone whose mental and emotional state was so negatively affected they took their own life? RIP Jack, you are not forgotten my friend.

[@notthemama7296]

10:40 I was able to make it into my 20s without being baptized when I left and my mom tried pushing me since I was 5. I even asked her what would change and she would tell me "nothing, you would be doing what you do now (as an unbaptized publisher)" so outright lying to me.

[@Chan-L-b7l]

The organization is starting to remind me of The Core from undertale. (The area shifts and turns a lot)

[@BeavisMcThe]

Almost 69k, hell of a milestone IMO 😂

[@mxnjones]

Double standards all the way down! 😅

[@RippleE.M.P]

It doesn't matter how manny layers of sugar and frosting you put on shit, its still shit.

[@alaska-wp7xo]

This is flipping wild 👀

[@ZXL000]

Kangaroo court oh Panda, you're making me laugh today thank you I needed it

[@cygnustsp]

Wait, what? A committee of elders will meet with the kid and his parents when they find out something bad happened. If the kid has a good attitude they drop it. But if the kid doesn't? A committee of elders with meet with the kid and his parents. That paragraph seemed a little redundant and was saying the same thing while being redundant.

[@carola6202]

As a child that was disfellowship, the elders keep insisting that I didn’t have a repentant attitude and I ultimately had to move another congregation and got reinstated. Then I turned 18 and I had gone so long without socializing with them and stopped attending the meetings. So sad because I feel like my teens would have been different with the support of the other teenagers in the congregation that were struggling with similar issues. All the teens grew up and left the religion.

[@mamajan99]

@@carola6202 "All the teens grew up and left the religion." Yes, except for the "Goodie 2 shoes" who love being self-righteousness and "above average Christians."

[@Mab_the_Destroyer]

Seriously, they didn't care about My attitude, seemed more like a power trip by the elders to reject Me again, & again. They just don't care. They pick, & choose at their own discretion, who they reinstatement from disfellshipping. It's horrible. They are wretched!

[@mamajan99]

@@Mab_the_Destroyer The self-righteous will be shown the judgement by which they judge. Their Father is the devil! Thus Paul wrote: "I forgive him. So you ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love for him. in order that Satan should not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes. 2 Cor 2

[@JOHNNYGIX]

Hey governing body, when you’re ready to add some “new light” and remove the disfellowshipping rule, I have many scriptures I can send your way to provide to the drip fed, rank and file.

[@jackalenterprisesofohio]

Wow, they must really be needing people.

[@Mab_the_Destroyer]

Desperate for money, & keeping power over their peons is more the case.

[@jackalenterprisesofohio]

@@Mab_the_Destroyer same difference,

[@jdp5606]

Df'd 2007. Telling my mom was the worst thing I ever had to do.

[@watchandjewelryloft4713]

So, are we no longer disfellowshipped? Or does all the shunning policy just apply to the "removed" now?

[@k45207]

I’m so curious why all the changes is it really the tax exemption? Growing up in “the truth “ they didn’t change shit lol

[@nenala7684]

"We have DECIDED" 😢😢

[@schwangster]

For those of us that have been around and ‘in’ JWs for 60 years…. 1. How come it took so long? 2. How come shunning is still a thing? 3. Where is the Love like Christ displayed? A big NO THANKS from this DFed guy!

[@magdagood16]

Removed 🤔 sounds even more dramatic 🙄

[@peggyfillmore1971]

Agnostic here..didn't Jesus forgive another sinner while they both were on the cross. So if Jesus can STILL forgive, then so can the elders.....OMG so glad I walked away from Christianity....my church is looking at God's creations like the beach lakes ,etc. Not hiding in a building.

[@PurpleFlames87]

This is exactly why I don’t understand the concept of Hell or any form of eternal punishment. If Jesus will forgive absolutely everybody, then do people think there’s certain types of sin that can never be forgiven? Actions have consequences of course when it comes to people doing illegal things or something like that, but in God’s eyes everyone will be forgiven and will always have the chance to be loved by him no matter what they’d done. At least that is how I view it.

[@mamajan99]

Following these men will destroy one's faith. Looking at Creation builds faith. ( Romans 1:20 ). God's eternal power and divine nature are evident through what He has made. These qualities are understandable through observing creation, not by following wolves in sheep's clothing.

[@Mab_the_Destroyer]

That is because all the Jehovah's Witnesses cult governing body members are only in it for the money, & power over others. That's their bottom line. They don't care about the common wo/man or reality.

[@TheImprovised]

This is giving AA vibes. You can be completely sober and come to a meeting after a while. They'll act all welcoming but still be suspicious and talk shite amongst themselves. Gross.

[@thetruthk5138]

Find a better home group. AA helps lots of people. You sound like you still haven't shifted the JWs way of feeling that you have been victimised stop it not a endearing trait .

[@christinesotelo7655]

AA is great but you can’t tell this commenter to “stop it”. JW or not, AA CAN be triggering. I’ve been to groups where a newcomer can’t get a word in edgewise because by the time the rules are read, the prayer, whatever, there’s little time and the ones who always talk and blubber, well...talk and blubber. It has or has nothing to do with JW trauma just as any AA story. There’s trauma involved or there isn’t. Not right of you to judge a person making a comparison. Every group has its ups and downs. The exJW needs to feel they fit in. It’s hard to do if everyone is just thinking “self”. Nothing but blessing for AA, but it’s not your new god I hope.

[@thetruthk5138]

@@christinesotelo7655 What are you talking about the newcomers are the most important people in the room. Most groups if large in numbers will have brief time spans so everyone can share. And if not the group isn't looking after the newcomers. Some AA groups have time allocated to newcomers and includes shy members. Bring it up in a Group Conscience if it still isn't being addressed find another home group it's not really that complicated. Finally AA isn't my new religion if it was I would not go after all its a spiritual program. AA works if you work it and the is a chapter entitled " How it works". Certainly not my new God god or great out doors. I have been attending weekly for 12 years and sober 12 years ODAAT

[@christinesotelo7655]

@@thetruthk5138 I’m happy for you! It is indeed a great group. Sorry if I offended you.

[@thetruthk5138]

@@christinesotelo7655 No offence taken a great helpful home group is safe place. Enjoy your week my friend

[@FlippyFlipperton]

What about being disassociated?

[@bytejourneycodes]

Define surfing porn. I hope they realise how many people surfing porn in some shape or form. They will have to prepare for some serious shunning.

[@mamajan99]

LOL!

[@cygnustsp]

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if I went to a meeting with my mom. She's 80, I got df'd 25 years ago, but she's never shunned me. We've always had a great relationship. How would she introduce me? Would I say I used to be a JW in good standing? Would there be anyone there who knows my story or remembers me? Probably not. Probably nobody would really care. Maybe an elder or two might know about me and be on the lookout since I was well known as an apostate. All that said, it'll never happen. I don't even think I'd do it if I was offered $1000...... do I hear $2000?

[@lh1673]

Before this article, why didn’t JWs get angry about the new light of BEARDS and PANTS? Weren’t some of their JW family, relatives or friends REMOVED those days when these 2 light (beards and pants) were a NO,NO😅

[@mamajan99]

I was told in the 1970's that only black skinned people could have a mustache. 1 Rutherford 3:16

[@kristinesharp6286]

Go Norway! 🇳🇴

[@stanley1771]

What a good feeling knowing I can greet whoever the fuck I want too!

[@shallowlove9507]

In theory right? Meaning they will no longer call it dis fellowship but it will still be practiced. They are just going to call it "removal"

[@JesusGonzalez-ol5yo]

AGAIN THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE TRUTH FOR THE MILLION TIME MEANING THEY NEVER HAD THE TRUTH NEVER WILL

[@jeffpeff]

How can they have “love among themselves” now that they have been given the freedom to go around judging each other so as to “mark” them? How does one know whom another has marked, and for what reason? Think of all the gossip, divisions, rumors, misunderstandings, distrust, etc. this will cause among them! “I’m marking sister Shut-in, because she barely goes out in service, and she doesn’t take very good care of her cats.” They’re probably gonna have to walk this one back a little, or it will rip them apart.

[@christinesotelo7655]

I HATE that they use-DARE to use-the word, “Wicked”. They do not know the meaning of the word, and to label people “wicked”, “Apostate”, and all their other little snipes out of ignorance, makes them responsible and liable for the damages those labels can cause to a minor or an adult. They truly are misled, uneducated people. Very harmful, the WT Org.

[@mamajan99]

Men like this killed Jesus.

[@noctoi]

Good news everybody... we're not shunning you anymore. We're ostracising you instead!!! Praise Big J. 🤦🤦🙄🙄😒😒 You know, I think this is actually WORSE than shunning, because it keeps the bait on the hook. It's not a clean break, it's a constant cold shoulder for "your own good" while still being acknowledged. It's MORE humiliation. It's MORE trauma.

[@RippleE.M.P]

Wow what a chang.......hey! Wait a minute!!!😮

[@alfonzocamero]

God's teachings " being kind and prioritizing forgiveness is key to entry into my kingdom" Human translations "fuk that isolation and embarrassment for not listening to my rule over you"

[@janzibansi9218]

Jw parents, ask your children what they want, dont force them to follow what you believe. You have a chance for a "normal(ish)" relation with your children, if you respect their choices. My mom is Jw, im a deciple of the sun (the one true god, jk its just atheism). She respected my voiced freedom of religion (begrudgingly) when i was 14, now im 30, and we live in the same house again. Took a few years to get along, but faith is a non-topic now. It helped a lot just to leave the room when the zeal goes off. We believe in fundamentally different things, but she was always my mother. Love you Mom❤

[@XxXShevampXxX]

2:55 Shouldn't the victims be the one's that decide if an apology is warranted rather than the perpetrators?

[@oliviaswarden6077]

Months for being disfellowshipped, I knew witnesses who for years trying to get reinstated, yes, years, guess elders were testing their patience to see if they would give up, nope they kept pursuing and got reinstated. Not I.

[@Cam-zv1jq]

After my divorce,my wife became a JW.About a year after the divorce she joins an the iids lives change drastically,no more birthdays,xmas,an even there friends,these are 8 an 6 year old boys.Now there 20 an 18 an all messed up.The youngest has attempted self harm 2 times,his brother once.I wasn't around at that time so i couldn't save them.Now they both have no people skills,no friends,no nothing.There childhood has messed them up.When they finally told me they didn't want to do JW stuff anymore an they couldn't tell there mom i was upset.I tried talking to her about them not wanting to be apart of it but she didn't want to hear it, exactly what they said she would.These people are extremely crazy.The grandma said everyone that isn't a JW is evil an God will kill all of them,even babies get it if there not JW,that was some evil stuff.They tried keeping me away from them,cuz im evil.Plus they knew when we started visitation the kids would be free of that shit at my house.She tried to tell the judge that Sunday is church an they can't miss it cause they were at my house.Judge shut her down ASAP,said that the weekend was my time with them an she cant tell me when they come home.

[@jonathanmills5747]

Ditto to your words. At least with the access to knowledge we have and can share, we will see the end of the Cult and it's diet of fear and lying, threats and so on. I am beginning to see a better secular future for mankind.

[@fan.of.feet2310]

And now even Jehovah’s Witnesses are using that soft language that George Carlin warned us about

[@Hallelujah3r]

What's that?

[@southernoregoncatmom6519]

C-U-L-T!

[@sadpunchingbag2830]

Gotta love learning about JW from a redpanda, best way

[@jenna2431]

Well, if you disfellowship them, they are likelier not to pay tithes.

[@mamajan99]

BINGO! (Hey...maybe they will replace the WT lesson with BINGO! That might keep everyone happy!)

[@wildbill6366]

Hilarious they show the prodigal son on the cover.. and yet they don't figure it out.. absolutely clueless..