Here, I'll write a good ending for this story if anyone here got as depressed as I did when watching this. Robbie's girlfriend was, in fact, the kind and wholesome girl he said she was, and once he told her the elders wanted him to cut ties with her and were gonna disfellowhip him regardless of if he did so or not, she showed compassion to him, and since he was gonna lose all his friends and family, she became his last remaining company. She didn't pressure him into marriage, knowing that he was still too distraught at everything that happened, but she offered him to remain his girlfriend and he, for that moment, came to his senses and accepted her at his side. Once it became clear to both of them at the appeal that there was nothing Robbie could do to save his ties with his family, she chose that if would be best for him to rebuild his life with other people, who respected him as a person and wouldn't subject him to such religious manipulation. She moved with him to the other side of the country, back to her home city, where he got to meet her family and friends, who would not only gladly welcome him as a new member, but also help them both with the difficulties of the girl's pregnancy, slowly helping Robbie to experience what an actual family's unconditional love feels like, which would bring him to gradually beat his religious indoctrination and see the horrors he was put through as a JW. 6 months later he tried, for the last time, to reconnect with his parents and old friends, because even now that he had a new support network and no longer wished to remain in the cult, he still wanted to at least talk to his mother and father again, because he still loved them. This request, however, was rejected, and as Robbie's last hope of reconnecting with his old family ended, his determination to build a better life began, with the woman he loved and who saved him in his worst moment, a new family who came to welcome him as one of their own, friends that respected and showed compassion to him and a child yet to come in merely a few months, that settled it. Being taken away from the cult had helped him become a better man and appreciate the good people around him. He was gonna miss his old family and hope that one day they'd come to their senses and look for him, but until that day came, he had but one path to follow. This time, it was him who asked her in marriage, and now as a free man away from the hateful eyes of the Watchtower, with who he saw as the most beautiful woman in the entire world at his side, he became the best husband and father he could ever hope to be. *The End.* I hoped this helped somehow for the few who read it all the way through. I am certain a story similar to this one has definitely happened somewhere in the world, and that makes me happy.
@costelinha1867Ай бұрын
"If anyone here got as depressed as I did when watching this..." Me (In my Hulk impersonation): "That's my secret, I'm always depressed...." Also that ending was pretty wholesome indeed.
@TallKulWmn1Ай бұрын
For a fact there is a story with a fairytale ending. There’s a young couple on KZbin that lived this. Now they’re happy together & raising two little girls I think. I hope the grandparents have awakened❣️
@costelinha1867Ай бұрын
The part that made me truly cringe, is how it took me until the very end before I realized that this was a dramatization, because you explicitly told me.
@jessicacaldwell6262Ай бұрын
@@heyfell4301 Yes a story like that can happen with a happy ending although we know as Ex JW’s so long we have family in the WT organization we’ll always have a Void in our lives because of Shunning…😔
@joshuaokoro-sokoh2993Ай бұрын
@heyfell4301 God d***** who's cutting the onions. 😭 That's beautiful. And you know, I think I might know someone who's had a story like this.
@FJG_72 ай бұрын
poor guy actually fell for the old "want to check my aquarium at my apartment?" 😔
@christiancancino22532 ай бұрын
Wanna see my aquarium?
@skyegraham69532 ай бұрын
Seems kinda fishy 😮😂
@jasminahaverinen57592 ай бұрын
Yes this is how I have lured all the men to fornicate with me (I don't have an aquarium😔)
@LBelle172 ай бұрын
Works every time
@Victorzio2082 ай бұрын
That’s how I got my last 4 illegitimate children. These harlots keep tricking me. I would just like to see some fish for once.😞
@Nicole_Auriel2 ай бұрын
Man: Has a healthy consensual relationship with a friend The elders: so you have chosen death…
@mr.atheist88482 ай бұрын
No wonder they lost the Norway case. Disfellowshipping needs to be abolished
@greyberet12 ай бұрын
@@mr.atheist8848 The wt needs to be abolished-with extreme prejudice 😂!
@thomash.schwed3662Ай бұрын
@@mr.atheist8848The problem is that disfellowshipping is not being abolished by the Society-at least any time soon. The term is merely being replaced with “removal”, along with a few minor esthetic changes. Essentially, however, the policy will remain the same after October 2024. The freakish-looking, nine-headed god at Warwick seriously thinks the judges in Norway are stupid enough to say that this will be enough for the Society to start receiving taxpayer money again. To put it another way: The Governing Body is trying to play the judges in Norway for fools.
@UwUImShioАй бұрын
Uhhh she wanted to keep the baby and marry after two months of flings
@SarahHill-jh6gsАй бұрын
@@UwUImShio But the guy shouldn't leave her like that. How about he have a talk with her and suggest paying for child support? If he doesn't agree with marriage, he could still be a part of the baby's life as a father.
@nablamakabama4882 ай бұрын
So the sin was having a girlfriend, not throwing her under the bus when she told him that she’s pregnant? That cult has some twisted sense of morality.
@Elizabeth-hc3miАй бұрын
Exactly! I can't feel bad for Robi in this. Do I agree with disfellowship? No. Do I think he deserves consequences for the way he treated his gf? YES This was just Karma being her best self.
@DoctorDocMDАй бұрын
The elders straight up approve of ditching her and the kid to fend for themselves, and suggest the same thing. They taught him well!
@MechabangАй бұрын
I thought there was a quote from the new testament that says," A man who doesn't support his family is worse than a man who has no faith"?
@sarareimold31512 ай бұрын
What's disgusting is throwing his girlfriend under the bus and abandoning her and his child.
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
Not to worry she can still go to the US department of family and ask for a paternity tests then ask for child support. JW cannot do anything about it, unless they Wana get disfellowship from the church registration and get a big fine.
@buzzard39832 ай бұрын
Look, uhh... Im not realy very experienced in the matter. But if a woman seduced someone, AND GET PREGNANT BY IT, like i think they would be mad.
@the_pengu2 ай бұрын
@@buzzard3983 He was lying that girl did not seduce him, they were dating 😭
@ScardyАй бұрын
@@buzzard3983 He went back multiple times for several months. He was making bread with that woman and now is upset there’s a bun in the oven? He doesn’t get to be mad.
@nola281Ай бұрын
@@Scardy nope, he was definitely involved in the goings on here. Proper education would have really helped here.
@SoThatsGoot2 ай бұрын
Jehovah needs therapy, for real. How is he getting his feelings hurt, and taking it personally, when some kid falls for an aquarium lady?
@Lisa-x3n5x2 ай бұрын
😂😂
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
Rubbish
@TallKulWmn12 ай бұрын
That’s a very good observation 😂🤣🤣
@Blackbrabx2 ай бұрын
it's the cult and the old ppl not "Jehovah"
@trilithon108Ай бұрын
@@AgnesBooth-zu7tw Rubbish about the Aquarium lady or rubbish about Jehovah getting butt hurt? 😮
@tallflguy2 ай бұрын
12:20, that is freaking horrible, so the elders want him to leave this pregnant girl by herself no support no nothing?? Just wow! Speechless. I’m glad I left this cult.
@cellytron2 ай бұрын
I love how her life just isn't even a consideration for them! It's "The girl" this and "that woman" that
@mungelomwaangasikateyo3762 ай бұрын
Thus is despicable honestly, the bible God at least tries to accommodate such situations, even though he treats woman like property, but that storm and war God has more heart than those judicial b*stards
@Elizabeth-hc3miАй бұрын
It's not just the Elders. Robi had no issues having smex with the woman until there were long term consequences, then he started crying about religion. Honestly, he was just as manipulative here, using religion to justify leaving his pregnant girlfriend.
@thomash.schwed3662Ай бұрын
And this from a self-professed “pro-life” cult. If, for the sake of the argument suggested by this demonstration, Lucy is expecting, the decent thing would be for the congregation committee to advise Robby to step up and take responsibility by providing for Lucy and for the potential child. Despite its virulent opposition to reproductive freedom, the Society, through this demonstration, is telling the servants-particularly, members of the committees-that it’s better to be hypocritical and infer that Lucy, by virtue of not being a witness, should contemplate abortion than it is for the committee to not exercise a personal vendetta against Robby.
@thomash.schwed3662Ай бұрын
@@cellytronOf course, even when her name is mentioned, it’s meant as, not a name, but a euphemism for how the Society views the scenario. “Lucy” is meant as a euphemism for “loose conduct”-what the Society now calls “brazen conduct”. In other words, even the name the Teaching Committee gave her is intended as an insult.
@tee46782 ай бұрын
It's funny how the elders will remember your sin and that case will follow you where you go but dudes who molest kids can move congregations and then serve as elders again. W morals.
@SurnaturalM2 ай бұрын
"The kids made them do it"
@mmareality6956Ай бұрын
Ain't that the Truth
@vincegmb6330Ай бұрын
Too true bro! Pedos are the VIPs on this organization!
@kimberlyelizabeth6052Ай бұрын
@mmareality6956 I see you. Well played.
@Mfox21892 ай бұрын
The way they talk about him and how he must be lying if he’s only caring about being sorry for his family is awful. It’s like watching a crooked prosecutor. Truly vicious narcissists
@TyranntX2 ай бұрын
Poor guy, my advice is to dump this cult, get a job, and marry this lovely woman he talked about. It will make for a FAR better life than being with The Tower Cult.
@Elizabeth-hc3miАй бұрын
I don't feel bad for him at all. I don't see it as he being manipulated by the cult, I see it as him being just as manipulative. He's fine fooling around with the woman until she gets pregnant, then all the sudden he is worried about religion and runs to the Elders. It seems to me he KNOWS they will blame his gf more than him, and will validate/talk him into leaving her and the baby so he doesnt have to feel guilty.
@bmonsterАй бұрын
Poor guy having fun sleeping around trying to scheme out of responsibility by blaming the woman and ditching the kid over it? Poor guy that cares more about his parents and his friends more than being a decent human? Sorry I'm not seeing it.
@Raphaeltheslayer29 күн бұрын
@@bmonster1. He’s in a cult. 2 he’s been in a cult since he was a child. And it’s his family and friends his whole life of course he’s struggling that doesn’t make him a good guy, yes. But I do understand what’s going on here he probably didn’t think in the moment this would lead to everything in his life being gone
@BrendonKing2 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the aquarium approach. My wife got me with that one years ago. True classic.
@BlackKittyCat99Ай бұрын
Elders when an elder SA’s a child: i sleep Elders when two adults have a consensual sexual relationship: REAL SHIT
@mimszanadunstedt441Ай бұрын
Because they give each other authority in a relationship, and any authority to them is a threat if its not under their control.
@concamon13642 ай бұрын
Was never disfellowshipped but this video is still super triggering..... I was such a square I never even had a girlfriend at school when I could've while in the cult, but parents were still super distrusting and used to probe like this all the time. I was forced into being super secretive even with watching innocent things on KZbin or Superhero movies/video games. This group and these elders are truly pathetic
@mungelomwaangasikateyo3762 ай бұрын
Congratulations on waking up from the matrix
@admiralmonocle38742 ай бұрын
@@mungelomwaangasikateyo376 Brother, stop using Matrix for stuff like this. It's stupid.
@lancerzmomАй бұрын
I was never a JW, but this video set of my fight or flight senses. This is fucking awful and knowing that a cult like this exists is disheartening.
@zanyaries333Ай бұрын
I wasn’t even allowed to watch KZbin. 😢 But I always had sneak it and watch it.
@7ColoredSongАй бұрын
@@zanyaries333 Me too
@tinkercat82682 ай бұрын
They're literally treating this as if a judge is hearing a criminal court case. That is crazy.
@mr.atheist88482 ай бұрын
Kangaroo court. That is why when awakened, you all know this is BS and telling the Elders your personal life is a big No No
@AliNo-r3nАй бұрын
I know
@JeeperzCreeperz-t2tАй бұрын
I'm not JW and I'm angry!
@sarareimold31512 ай бұрын
It literally takes 2 weeks to find out that you are pregnant. How do these writers not know that???
@danniealexander41312 ай бұрын
Reclusive men wrote this. The scenario is crazyy😂
@saltydinonuggies18412 ай бұрын
Yeah. Like the average is about 6 weeks, but that doesn’t mean someone can’t know before then
@SurnaturalM2 ай бұрын
Do seriously think these old, reclusive, decrepit men to know how women and their bodies, especially their bodies, work? It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetically sad.
@dohk11052 ай бұрын
You really think the guys who wrote this have had a even a crumb of sex their entire life? It was written by 65 year old virgins lmao
@TyranntX2 ай бұрын
You say that as if you think Tower Cultists are smart.
@whosebuilderandmakerisgod2 ай бұрын
Robby sounds like a douche. He got into a relationship with a woman but didn’t want the responsibility of being a husband and a father, so he told the church so that they could help him evade responsibility
@Raphaeltheslayer2 ай бұрын
I don’t know I feel like he’s been very brainwashed and went to the church because he didn’t know what else to do since jw don’t make decisions of their own Lucy can still take him to court so they’re not really helping him
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
He's definitely a deadbeat!
@unbrokenativeeАй бұрын
I agree
@atlas6864Ай бұрын
honestly we don't know much but to me it seemed like he did enjoy spending time with Lucy and only confessed because of the overwhelming guilt that's been programmed into him. he cares about his family and friends, he's a caring person, and he was clearly close enough to her to give the impression that marriage was in her mind. he could have had a loving family imo. the elders in this story tore that potential apart. that's just what i interpreted though.
@andy62016 күн бұрын
it's the memes of the religion acting on him. you're evil for calling him evil, for eg. a child raised by terrorists is bound to become e a terrorist. like megamind being raised in a prison
@genericprofile23812 ай бұрын
I would absolutely fall for the "come check out my aquarium trick". I want to see the fish.
@fukai-sama2 ай бұрын
Same
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
That reminds me of an old movie where this man was inviting this young woman to his place to listen to phonographs! The mother had found out from a friend and stopped them before anything happened!
@watchandjewelryloft47132 ай бұрын
The cringiest part of these is how they create such the perfect scenario and play it out as though this is how all interactions with "worldly people" are. Like, the woman can't possibly be a good person, and they couldn't be in love. They ALWAYS have to demonize the non-JW. It's beyond cringe. Unbelieving mate not going to meetings? He's the deadbeat sitting on the couch with beer. They will never portray people in a good light. It's disgusting.
@mr.atheist88482 ай бұрын
That is why they're referred to as a cult. Cults use the Us against them mindset and members cannot leave. Another sign of a cult
@thomash.schwed3662Ай бұрын
@@mr.atheist8848Actually, they can leave; they’ll just lose everyone and everything in their lives through the “loving” arrangements instituted by the Society. They’ll held hostage through the blackmail-emotional, personal, material and economic-committed by the Society.
@ufuvjviufugigib7692Ай бұрын
If I hadn’t seen the beginning of the video I would think she SA him but all this cry is about a consensual sex
@mimszanadunstedt441Ай бұрын
As if you want them to show a special interest in you for behaving good
@adrielleferreira61962 ай бұрын
the minute he said "this girl I met seduced me", I felt all the forecoming cringe from the video - no way I couldn't lose it 😂
@KristinMilitana-qw1yd2 ай бұрын
"Tell your elders everything so we can tell you how to micromanage your life." - Every power hungry member of the Watch Tower
@KristinMilitana-qw1ydАй бұрын
@Ann-xf5bn What is this thing known as confidentiality? The Elders have the trust of Jehovah.
@Thebiolizard590Ай бұрын
>guy meets girl >girl gets pregnant >girl now wants to get married and have kids I see literally nothing wrong with this.
@SonOfMorningАй бұрын
I mean shit should be planned but hey, that's life. It's a chance to create a good relationship.
@SurnaturalM2 ай бұрын
1:13 I lost it when he called, having an intercourse "fornication" nobody in the real world speaks like this. Of course, he blamed it all on the woman.
@nightwalker9875Ай бұрын
Of course they would blame the woman; they take from their father Adam
@theresamills5095Ай бұрын
This cult is so discusting. The guy is snivelling like a child. Who are these people
@UwUImShioАй бұрын
Fornication just means premarital intercourse
@jessicacaldwell62622 ай бұрын
There’s no mention of he still should be responsible for his unborn child even though he’s going to end their relationship… he’s begging for forgiveness but will he have “EMPATHY” for his girlfriend when she finds out he’s dumping her !?! What a Cult !!! 😤
@drendabaerwolf7888Ай бұрын
Children are enemies of God. Remember that broadcast?
@gisella13502 ай бұрын
This is so bad. Allowing 3 men without any counseling qualifications pass judgment on you. Let he that is without sin cast the first stone. The JW committee turns up with a judgmental bag of rocks in their bags, and they are happy to use them on you. Ask your Heavenly Father for forgiveness, not other sinful men.
@georgebrown83122 ай бұрын
That sounds like a kangaroo court to me, or a "Star Chamber court", because of its secret proceedings.
@patriciapitt4228Ай бұрын
That's why they did away with that scripture, John 8:12
@costelinha1867Ай бұрын
Letting anyone pass judgement on someone for simply engaging in consensual sex of any kind is repulsive.
@jasonuren34792 ай бұрын
Hook, line and sinker? Aquarium? Sounds about right 😂😂😂
@Nicole_Auriel2 ай бұрын
I DESPERATELY want a sequel where Robby leaves the church, marries that wonderful friend of his and the two of them live a very happy life together
@Most_Jeffinitely2 ай бұрын
Crying about wanting to stay in a toxic religion is crazy
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
The people re crazy
@Raphaeltheslayer2 ай бұрын
Probably has been brainwashed by both his parents and everyone around him since he’s not allowed to interact with “worldly people”
@fatlegoman87562 ай бұрын
Just call it a cult there just cult That uses christian ideas but twist them to get people to join there not christian and there not a religion there a cult
@CojaGamez2 ай бұрын
You have to have some empathy tho. The religion, as awful as it is, is his whole life. His family, social circle, and likely sense of identity
@Most_JeffinitelyАй бұрын
@@CojaGamez i do have empathy for them, its sad that something like making love with permission from both parties is am extremely punishable offense, once youre in that chair in front of three people who only care about their non existent god more than how much you care about your family or friends, youre pretty much booted out of the religion, Id understand if it was a disgusting offense like say he r*ped her, or he m*rdered someone, but shes made out to be the temptrice, because "shes a outworld female" grow up man, you see this man crying and all youre concerned about is how many times he says your non-existent sky gods name, hes saying hed dump her, hes saying that hed change for your make believe religion because he clearly cares.... They lack sympathy, or at the very least empathy when he really seems to need some, which is scummy
@tinkercat82682 ай бұрын
JWs have zero experience with us worldly harlots and this script really proves it 😂😂😂
@-EricaCartman2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you have that conservative christian thinking imbedded in your brain. The girl was either careless or uneducated, not a harlot just because she liked him and wanted to have mutual unprotected sex with him.
@JeeperzCreeperz-t2tАй бұрын
I think they're jealous and are twisted to make him spill all of the details.
@sandydenman6083Ай бұрын
@@JeeperzCreeperz-t2t oh yeah. They want the juicy gossip. For...research purposes...yeah, that's right, research!
@RustyKnightGaming2 ай бұрын
George: He seemed to be upset. Others: Let's consult the book of hate. Says here he wasn't anguished enough and didn't bring us the head of this harlot as repentance.
@empyrea_2546Ай бұрын
This is such a good summary of the situation 😂😂😂
@nycbuzz222 ай бұрын
Hahaha your videos are the beat Panda. They always make me laugh. The close ups and the Stephen Lett "Baaaaaa" never get old. Keep up the good work.
@DORA-ph7cv2 ай бұрын
What about the baby?1? In my congregation there was a situation like this, except that the boy decided to take responsibility for his "worldly" girlfriend and his baby. He was disfellowshipped and shunned by his whole family. Being just 20 years old he couldn't cope with this and within several months ended his live , making his wife a widow and his baby an orphan... Only then did his family realize what they had done and soon left the organization, totally devastated...
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
What a sad story! 😢
@thetruthk5138Ай бұрын
Just pure evil to shun your own blood
@AliNo-r3nАй бұрын
Wow
@sandydenman6083Ай бұрын
A girl in our congregation got pregnant with her worldly boyfriend. She was publicly shamed but since he agreed to come to meetings, she wasn't disassociated (she wasn't baptized). But even then they were always just that leeeeetle extra judged and cold-shouldered.
@lorenisevil2 ай бұрын
Absolutely insane how differently they treat and talk to a witness male sleeping with a worldly girl versus a witness girl sleeping with a worldly man. They ask what you were wearing and other ridiculous questions like that. Completely blaming the female always
@empyrea_2546Ай бұрын
Omg...this!!! This!!!!!!!
@KillerFallenAngel2 ай бұрын
Well I cringed immediately. 😅 as soon as the words this girl I knew seduced me left this dudes mouth😂😂
@getdiphenhydramined2 ай бұрын
“We’re not a cult”:
@kolleo13Ай бұрын
U really are. And not even a well thought out one. Research the history for ur own sake.
@getdiphenhydraminedАй бұрын
@@kolleo13 note the quotations my guy
@dmxj158623 күн бұрын
Lol
@jonsoto82332 ай бұрын
Jehovah's Witnesses love their Kangaroo Courts.
@asapstan2 ай бұрын
What worse is how Robbie gives them authority over him.
@georgebrown83122 ай бұрын
I have a more fitting name for the Watchtower Society's judicial committee, and that is "Star Chamber court" because of its secret proceedings.
@thomash.schwed3662Ай бұрын
@@georgebrown8312It gives the lie to the line on one of the members of the appeal committee in this demonstration, to wit, that the procedure is “open and above board “.
@ingramwright53992 ай бұрын
They tried to make it look like the elders are so wise about everything, (even when a woman knows she's pregnant) so don't try to get anything past them. This is so ridiculous, they could have very easily gotten straight to the point and asked if it was more than once. Hell with the girl carrying his child....I can't.
@SkipSpotter2 ай бұрын
If you told me this was fake, I would seriously believe you. His voice as he asks about Lucy, is the clingiest ever heard.
@AliNo-r3nАй бұрын
Holy fuck. I thought it was LEGIT FAKE 😅
@MangyPLАй бұрын
It is fake though?
@duanewhite9603Ай бұрын
Training video @@MangyPL
@designtechdk2 ай бұрын
This is just sad. Pure cult manipulation. Imagine thinking this is normal.
@jessicacaldwell6262Ай бұрын
@@designtechdk My Dad was asked to serve as an Elder it was all fine until he sat in a Judicial committee soon after he stepped down he told my Mom he didn’t want to be in a position to start Judging it’s own JW members !!!
@Teneab2 ай бұрын
"they're still butthurt that robby dragged their asses to a committe hearing when they could've been at Dunkin donuts" Best quote of 2024
@BeavisMcThe2 ай бұрын
I feel guilty and angry when I think of the fear and even disgust I was taught to view DF'd ones with when I was in, especially considering that they were at the total mercy of dudes like these. It also infuriates me how they talk to him like he's five, not to mention how Lucy and the baby were dumped.
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
She can ask for child support and demand in court that man.
@TaharkahX2 ай бұрын
I was in a cult. I said some really f-ed up things to people who didn't deserve it. I understand what it's like to be cruel for God. I was miserable, but boy was I holy!
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
Holy misery
@manicexorcism15252 ай бұрын
Who the hell wants to go through all this horse shit just to be forgiven? Just go to a church and confess to a priest and be forgiven. Who would want to stay in this mean-spirited cult?
@michvroom87842 ай бұрын
Forgiveness from what and for what? Dude fell for a girl and had a sex drive. And there is no god sitting in judgement so what's the point?
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
Or better yet, why can't he pray to God himself and ask for forgiveness?
@SilkyLewАй бұрын
Well, when your whole life is this cult and it's all you know, and can't talk to your friends and family that's in the cult; it's kinda hard to just say fuck it.
@proud2bpagan2 ай бұрын
omg..these are the dudes that threw a fallen woman in front of Christ,saying the Law of Moses demanded that she be stoned.
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
But remember, Jesus stopped that He said who ever has no sin throw the first stone.
@proud2bpagan2 ай бұрын
@@AgnesBooth-zu7tw oh.i know.i love that story. But one thing that always made me curious was the ommission of the man she'd been getting up to it with. Even the Mosaic law said that he should be stoned,too.
@notasoap2 ай бұрын
That's exactly why it was a sin. They only brought the woman when the law states that the man should be stoned too. They were trying to trick Jesus similar to how the Pharisees did when they asked him if they should pay taxes to Caesar. He couldn't deny or approve of it because both options would get him in trouble.
@kathybrem880Ай бұрын
The very same
@TheCombatEditor62Ай бұрын
@@proud2bpagan I've thought of this too. one thing that someone told me was that it was most likely a set-up. after all, they claimed that they had caught her 'in the very act' of adultery but somehow only managed to apprehend her. another possibility is that one of THEM was the man, who basically sold out his girlfriend just to see what Jesus would do. which would explain why they were the first to leave when he said 'those of you without sin may cast the first stone.'
@saltydinonuggies18412 ай бұрын
The zoom ins on their faces was sending me 😭😭😭
@-EricaCartman2 ай бұрын
Yes he always chooses the perfect time!
@BobaDoba6992 ай бұрын
The random diarrhea fart sounds always have me dying 😭💀
@katwitanruna2 ай бұрын
They all sound the same. Like little robots.
@cellytron2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this CRAZY upload. I had a really big disappointment today and came home feeling like my life was a failure and that I'd screwed things up beyond hope... but goddamn if I didn't realize that, as bad as my situation is, at least I don't have THESE three bungholes in charge of my fate!
@bradybunch922 ай бұрын
The is absolutely nauseating!!!!!
@FionnDoyle-cf1tx2 ай бұрын
the elders are so rude
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
More then rude They re terrible people.
@SurnaturalM2 ай бұрын
5:03 "This is not the court of laws" No, this is more like the Nuremberg trials.
@georgebrown83122 ай бұрын
More accurately, this is a "kangaroo court", or a "Star Chamber court", because of its secret proceedings.
@murlepeterson6028Ай бұрын
Pretty damn close ! Then they all gang up with their already decided he's wrong , they're right
@Dystopikachu2 ай бұрын
The tone in this clip reminds me of the interrogation of Neo by Mr. Smith in the first Matrix movie
@mimszanadunstedt441Ай бұрын
Its literally like being in the matrix. And getting out of it you basically have psychosis from psychological pruning, and sense of betrayal, distrust, paranoia. derealization. And this is why priests like hospitals. To catch the vulnerable. Its like the concept of an 'egregore'. Its a ploy to manipulate the masses. Unless thats a red herring of a concept.
@freetranslate-u8e2 ай бұрын
notice how the elders are doing “good cop” “bad cop” classic way to get more info out of someone
@RaphaeltheslayerАй бұрын
That’s what I was thinking! 😂
@AliNo-r3nАй бұрын
Mhm
@DefKatT2 ай бұрын
This is disgusting, and for this organization to put this little stage play on as if it's totally normal and acceptable... it's no wonder this so-called church is in its death throes.
@georgebrown8312Ай бұрын
And in real trouble with the "secular" governments of this world, not only for covering up cases of sexual abuse against children in their congregations, but also for shunning.
@katwitanruna2 ай бұрын
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
@mimszanadunstedt441Ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIKXiIuGfKyhhZo
@talesfromthecult63842 ай бұрын
No, up to 2 years. They kept me out as long as they could
@teahero59232 ай бұрын
"It worries me that he hides the truth": he's worried about that an adult man has a consensual relationship without him knowing it...
@Raphaeltheslayer2 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s…concerning..
@CesRaisons2 ай бұрын
Let’s see the video for a kid confessing they were molested, my prediction is that it’s 1 minute long and the elder just says "didn’t happen"
@sandydenman6083Ай бұрын
No no, the kid would be "counselled" about making false accusations and how much it would hurt the congregation to have these things whispered about, and did they have two witnesses? If not, how could you lie about Brother so-and-so, and then the kid would be punished publicly for lying.
@CesRaisonsАй бұрын
@@sandydenman6083 ah, my mistake. I apologize for my horrible lying. In all seriousness though Im surprised JWs haven’t been shut down. This is like Ruby Ridge but popular
@rifkinr46602 ай бұрын
Jesus, i thought that cruel and unusual punishment is banned by the constitution
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
Is not
@pyenygren22992 ай бұрын
14:25 A bunch of older dudes is pressing this young man, instead of letting him taking decions for himself. 🥺
@kathybrem880Ай бұрын
They’re jealous cause they don’t get any!
@garylangford1Ай бұрын
As a Christian, I hope nobody thinks all of us are like this. In my Church, we don’t just kick someone out for one sin. Our elders actually help the troubled one out of it. That’s what their job should be; Jesus even says in Luke 5:31 “It is not those who are healthy who need a doctor, but those who are sick.” My problem with the JWs is that they don’t make judgement based on what the Bible says, they add their singular beliefs on top, completely disorienting God’s true word. I don’t expect nor want anyone calling me the smartest man on Earth, I just wanna make sure people know that not all followers in Christ do what Watch Tower does.
@costelinha1867Ай бұрын
Look, I cannot tell about your church in particular, but plenty of christians and churches kinda already ensured that the way you're viewed by many people aren't exactly that much better than JW's. If anything, the mental picture that I have from a lot of stories of people who left the church due to this mess is honestly just a "Jeheova's witness, diet edition". You say JW's "don’t make judgement based on what the Bible says, they add their singular beliefs on top, completely disorienting God’s true word." My guy, I'm sorry to break it to you, but that's kinda one of the things christianity became infamous for doing as well... So much so that it literally became a joke among former-christians that christians don't actually read the bible. Again, I'm not accusing you or your church of doing that, but christianity as a whole has a lot to do to build a positive reputation back up. And it has nothing necessarely to do with JW's corrupting our views of christianity because, we kinda mostly always got that you 2 were mostly different things, but due to the actions of your own higher ups... Look, I know not all christians are like this, and I am really, terribly sorry that your religion's reputation has been tarnished by corrupt individuals to that point, specially because from what I've seen, it can have the power to be a genuine force for good.....
@lePirateManАй бұрын
The other churches don't kick you out for sinning they help you cover it up. Can't have the priest go to jail for kid didling
@lePirateManАй бұрын
The other churches don't kick you out for sinning they help you cover it up. Can't have the priest go to jail for kid didling
@garylangford1Ай бұрын
@@lePirateMan okay well it’s to a certain extent. If there’s a law that requires a set punishment for a sin like murder or pedophelia then it’s up to the authorities. It’s more of like helping with social sin like sleeping around, gossip, anger, or miss using the lord’s name. Same goes for priests, a church nearby me there was an incident of an elder messaging a minor, and the rest of the staff there had to get the police involved. You just need to find a church that actually follows the rules they exist.
@TheCombatEditor62Ай бұрын
@@costelinha1867 I feel you. I'm Catholic, and honestly some days it feels like I have to put out the fires started by others of my faith who commit atrocities and claim that it's 'God's Will' or who use their power to harm others in the community. Honestly I am far more angry at the Catholics who do evil than the people who judge us all for what they do.
@tallflguy2 ай бұрын
Dude is pretty much confessing his pull out game is weak!
@christiancancino22532 ай бұрын
Daaaamn, we started so 🦆-ing HARD! 💀
@Soundprufe2 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I was never a baptized Jw. I would have gone through this torture for having my princess with my then girlfriend. Utter nonsense!
@theconqueringram52952 ай бұрын
In my head canon, Robbie left JW, reconciled with the girl and they end up raising a beautiful daughter. Their marriage had it's ups and downs, of course, but they were a happy family and Robbie was free, finally free!
@Raphaeltheslayer2 ай бұрын
Honestly that sounds best case scenario
@SarahHill-jh6gsАй бұрын
That's even better. ❤
@Teneab2 ай бұрын
It's such a terrible thing for your family to be the first thing you care about
@murlepeterson6028Ай бұрын
And the family of his buddy !!
@deathdrivesapontiac2 ай бұрын
Hey, Robbie’s story is ***kind of*** like the Scarlet letter. You know that book set in the American pilgrim era? Some religious people being mad and hounding someone who did something which is none of their business, demonising the woman and forcing someone to be kicked from their community. Cringe challenge lost within the first five minutes
@KiwiLeeScipio2 ай бұрын
Watching this as a mennonite: this is wild. Church is a sinner's hospital and school. You don't turn away someone for having appendicitis, you treat them. Those who need it most are kicked out by these people? The whole thing doesn't make sense.
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
Exactly! I don't recall Jesus turning anyone away when someone came to him for help.
@sandydenman6083Ай бұрын
Not only that, but the elders decided you weren't really TRYING to get better and infecting the "pure flock" with your sinners ways, so out into the darkness with you!
@cariocajin2 ай бұрын
The whole bureaucracy of the process is not short than pharisaical.
@RippleE.M.P2 ай бұрын
" This is not a court of law " so then was the scene in Oppenheimer not a Court of law too?
@RustyKnightGaming2 ай бұрын
When they said we have to view this as Jehovah. Where in the bible does it state that any one has the right to act as god.
@tiffingbird2 ай бұрын
I think someone in the JW Writers department watched Colombo because this has very intense "oh and one more thing" vibes
@molybdomancer1952 ай бұрын
Is “coming to see my aquarium” the new “come up and see my etchings”?
@Malketh3332 ай бұрын
This is OBJECTIVELY EVIL
@nola2812 ай бұрын
If only the governing board was so eager to go a real court house.
@keeponwishin2 ай бұрын
As a Protestant Christian, I knew a woman in my church who was a disfellowshipped JW. Not sure what she did to get disfellowshipped, but she ended up converting her entire family away from Jehovahs Witnesses and to Christianity. This video is disgusting from every possible angle.
@lePirateManАй бұрын
If the christian God is real, why doesn't he tell the Jehovahs witnesses who sincerely pray to him fully believing in him that they should leave?
@pidgey6830Ай бұрын
This of course is why they practice disfellowshipping. If they didn't actively freeze out subversive elements they'd get their family and friends out and the whole pile of cards will come crashing down.
@keeponwishinАй бұрын
@@lePirateMan Christians believe that the Bible is the adherent word of God. JWs view themselves as Christians, so they share that belief. However, if they would actually study the Bible (in context) independently of their own religious texts, I’m sure many of their beliefs would at least be challenged.
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
I feel that the woman getting disfellowshiped was a blessing in disguise. I've heard that the JW organization treats women like second-class citizens!
@sandydenman6083Ай бұрын
@@melissacooper8724yes ma'am it sure does
@maroxesen1Ай бұрын
1:00 the expression of pride and satisfaction on that elder's face😂
@RippleE.M.P2 ай бұрын
As an exjw even im surprised by the brutality 😢
@sandydenman6083Ай бұрын
Why would you be surprised? I guarantee you every elder on that judicial committee is glorying in their power. They're playing with him like a cat and mouse. That's their true reward for playing the church politics correctly.
@mimszanadunstedt441Ай бұрын
When people are power/fear centric, toying with people is nearly sexually gratifying. But it can be dissociated. And this is how they believe others are seducers and evil. Because they feel loss of control, while getting pleasure from the control. Because They've also been sexually abused.
@mimszanadunstedt441Ай бұрын
This is tied to the far right, and its tied to prison abuse as well.
@Bonklyboi2 ай бұрын
"He not only got Bathsheba pregnant, he was responsible for killing her husband... That was pretty bad." Bro I fucking snorted
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
IIRC, after Bathsheba announced that she was pregnant David tried to get her husband Uriah to sleep with her so that he would think that he was the father. Uriah refused because his military duties were more important to him. So David had Uriah killed in battle so that he could marry Bathsheba.
@christiancancino22532 ай бұрын
"She is pregnant" Misoprostol: She WAS 🦸♂️🦸♂️🦸♂️
@ImMakurAHH2 ай бұрын
Wait,thats how the pill its called that u take when u dont wanna have kids??
@christiancancino22532 ай бұрын
@@ImMakurAHHabortive pill
@AgnesBooth-zu7tw2 ай бұрын
@ImMakurAHH The pill is call *the next day pill* and his not a preservative is to induce an abortion. If you used always, it's loses its effectiveness Kinda like detect or protect in pokemon
@mr.atheist88482 ай бұрын
Yes an abortion pill @@ImMakurAHH
@mungelomwaangasikateyo3762 ай бұрын
🗿
@TheAtlarchyАй бұрын
My entire life as a JW I said that confessions are evil, because a human judges your sin... Now I am Orthodox... Go to confession often... The rules of confession forbid you from giving details... If this guy went to an Orthodox priest to confess, all he needed to say would be "I conitted fornication... I repent of my sin" done... Finished... No need for absolutely anything else... Even if he didn't go there, he would at worst be denied communion, but could talk to anyone he wished and the priest would encourage him to stay with the woman and be a father, or at least help them financially since he is now a father... I think I have the better deal now thank you... I can't believe I used to think judicial committees are superior to confessions...
@rubydeluluАй бұрын
0:01 i lost the cringe challenge
@RR-lj3ipАй бұрын
Holy shit, you lasted THAT long??? I lost the challenge at 0:00
@rubydeluluАй бұрын
@@RR-lj3ip i hardly made it- my eyes almost burnt off
@nola2812 ай бұрын
The argument the old guys are using is the jezebel spirit argument, that all women are just promiscuous and awful, like the guy couldn't have said no. There's nothing wrong with what either of them did, they are both equally involved in the action.
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
He was throwing Lucy under the bus!
@nola281Ай бұрын
@@melissacooper8724 right, they were both willing actors in this, not just her, not just him. Sky daddy isn't a reason to abandon children.
@costelinha1867Ай бұрын
Not only do they want him to dump the woman as a sign of loyalty to god, but they want to dump her AND THEIR CHILD!
@tunnelcrawlerwaluigi2690Ай бұрын
I cringed when I heard the elders say “he wants to come back and it would be nice to associate with family or friends, but there is nothing about Robbie’s relationship with Jehovah” that is one of the most upsetting and infuriating things I’ve ever heard in my life.
@blazergamer64252 ай бұрын
I do think it's crazy that after he was disfellowshipped instead of going to be with his baby mama he decides to have his own rumspringa cross country for 6 months and then decides to come back later.
@Raphaeltheslayer2 ай бұрын
Who knows.. he could’ve been lying once he figured out telling the truth is what screwed him over in the first place
@enthusiastisch19222 ай бұрын
2:00 THAT SMIRK LMAO
@blindovision2 ай бұрын
Great vid! I lost the cringe challenge in the first two seconds when I saw Robbie crying. Even though I knew it was coming, it made me sad.😊
2 ай бұрын
All over disgusting ….. completed wicked. Lost it immedately
@roibu302 ай бұрын
So Robby has a gf who he finds wholesome and nice, but because of a cult he throws it away ?
@fukai-sama2 ай бұрын
Are you forgetting the kid, who now has no father?
@Raphaeltheslayer2 ай бұрын
@@fukai-samayeah I feel bad for everyone involved in this the dude who’s brainwashed the poor woman the poor unborn child
@fukai-sama2 ай бұрын
@@RaphaeltheslayerIf this were to happen irl he might get custody and indoctrinate the child, or he might all together abandon the both of them, all in the effort of making *"JEHOVAH REJOICE".*
@fukai-sama2 ай бұрын
@@Raphaeltheslayer same. I wish that the cult did not exist.
@bmonsterАй бұрын
She dodged a bullet there. And her kid (if she chose to have it) will be better off not being involved with his father or this cult
@jezebelrebel2502 ай бұрын
I love your videos. Thank you.
@joachimgoethe7864Ай бұрын
I would have remained silent and requested legal counsel. Whether a valid court of law or a JW kangaroo court, the accused deserves representation.
@floriansunbackyard2 ай бұрын
I've already lost it when I saw the man sobing in the very beginning. Heartbreaking
@Ohforgodssakethatsme2 ай бұрын
Elder: Or maybe he's just a good actor. Me: I've been watching quite a few of these videos and I've gotta tell you, sweetie, none of you are good actors. Also, I have to add that disfellowshipping isn't about teaching the "sinner" truth. It's about teaching the congregation terror.
@WatchtowerHunter2 ай бұрын
I can’t bear to watch this. Contrast this to Jesus with the woman caught in adultery or the Samaritan woman. By contrast, these god awful men make the Pharisees seem understanding and compassionate. And, is it just me, or does the black elder sound like he’s playing on the wrong speed? And has the line “this is not a court of law” ever been uttered even once in a judicial committee? Or was that put in to deal with government officials who are extremely concerned that an extra judicial process exists in their country? And do these men ever think that people who tell them precisely what they want to hear are actually a greater danger than someone who struggles to articulate their experience and the concomitant feelings? And please note not reading once from the Bible when making this horrid decision. And please note how the good ole boys call the committee to discuss. What chance do you think this kid has against that?
@lePirateManАй бұрын
Nooooo, not the AQUARIUM! Oldest trick in the book
@WestLight-l3uАй бұрын
Yeah..girls are so innovative these days!!
@stasacab2 ай бұрын
I was disfellowshipped 27 years ago. The original elders could even be dead or even... apostates. My disfellowshipping was not this nice. The brothers made it very easy for me to walk out. So now, when you guys cleansed the congregation of my evil influence, how are you guys doing? The theocratic blessings and increase in publishers must be so hard it makes your ears pop.
@drendabaerwolf7888Ай бұрын
I hardly remember mine but I had good elders. They still df me but that's what I wanted
@NinaSpeaks2 ай бұрын
I'd be interested to see how they present a scenario where a JW woman or older girl got pregnant out of wedlock, esp. by a "worldly person". What would the difference between her treatment and Robbie's be?
@elizabethyoung49002 ай бұрын
@NinaSpeaks.........they would question how she was dressed and if she led the boy on, they would blame the girl 😮
@melissacooper8724Ай бұрын
They would treat her like she was on trial for murder!
@kathybrem880Ай бұрын
They’d probably stone her!!
@drendabaerwolf7888Ай бұрын
Well my sister got pregnant twice and df twice by a worldly man. She got reinstated and found out 2 months later she was pregnant by him. They df her as soon as they found out she was pregnant.
@InisSchenkeveldАй бұрын
@@elizabethyoung4900
@inspectorspinda2 ай бұрын
This is legit like a police interrogation. All that’s missing is the Miranda warning
@CharlesPinetree-gl5joАй бұрын
Plot twist: an add for condoms
@FunFilmFare2 ай бұрын
Well said. At least confessionals won't expel you from church for confessing your sins.