Heroes that stomp your pubs but actually suck

In this video, Jenkins talks about 4 heroes that destroy in pubs, but actually suck, and how to counter them.
Spoilers:
1) Sniper
2) Riki
3) Bristleback
4) Lycan
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[@cktan7110]

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[@lemzpotutan2839]

Jenkins? Can you make a video about how to deal with smurfs in 2-3k? Like meepo, invo, morph, am and maybee ursa? I always saw players complaining about it but ofcourse I am not one of those. Infact, im excited to perform against them. But a lot of players i met complain too much and they cant deal with them properly. 😁 Thank you

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[@jamessalva4192]

So in summary, Enemy picks a hero that wins by being far? Go near him. Enemy picks a hero that wins by not being seen? Scout him. Enemy picks a hero that wins by being at the center of a fight? Ignore him. Enemy picks a hero that is unstoppable during his ultimate? Stop him when he doesn't have his ultimate. Deceptively simple, but effective.

[@fugopychotka7560]

what about faceless void & ck offlane that's a very hard matchup.

[@lessar2721]

@@fugopychotka7560enemy picks a hero that dominates the lanes? Dont lane him cheese him. Enemy picks a hero that has a team fight ulti? Save items or disable him during ulti. Against void try to have void ulti bad targets dont show on map and go for his back line. He cant do much after ulti.

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[@Painbow]

I came for the advice but stayed for the yoga.

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[@adude3691]

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[@Jsh1bT]

Same

[@kungpaolover555]

3:11 that tiny + ls going towards sniper looked so oddly satisfying

[@mha1162]

IKR IT LOOKS BADASS

[@MM-tf4xt]

And immediatly after they went to the Earthshaker because he is also a hero you want to focus first in fights. If you can kill an ES, before he can use echo slam then fights can also be super easy.

[@thezodiac8973]

Movement with purpose

[@leonbishop7404]

yes, kreygasm

[@migueeeelet]

@@MM-tf4xt Not to mention that ES has a crapton of stuns.

[@jpao1834]

That BB clip is too depressing. Imagine if you're the player and you just wanted to be hit to proc the Quill, but the enemy completely ignores you lol

[@LEGAZZI]

"The AUDACITY! To all chat!" One of my favorite lines from Jenkins this month

[@icariamcgordon358]

But jenkins, the quills. It hurt.

[@karlmarx5313]

That's why he said kite him with halberg or disables.. Or even diffusal to immobilized his movement speed and mana just like what Topson's Gyro did with Miracle's Bristle i the last TI.. Best of luck in you games bro

[@LordofPotatos]

Also don't go high ground unless you are prepared and at an advantage, as well as someone having key items that deal with physical damage, vlads/AC etc.

[@icariamcgordon358]

@@karlmarx5313 as support player I always thinking to buy eul if possible. But yeah, after this video I will convince to everyone including pos 1 to buy eul/halberd/diffusal just to kite BB

[@HAHA4625]

Armor helps

[@trihermawan9553]

The quil give more damage if you trying to kill him

[@HavaN5rus]

So your stepmom showed you how to do yoga at home? Sounds exciting...

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[@smilinggeneral8870]

8:00 that hurts me mentally. on the same situation in a different game, i was the sole carry of my team for the entire game and the enemy learned that if they disarm/stun me, i could do nothing and they rush throne.

[@sherwing9054]

We did this on a tournament as a meme, 3 halberld, 2 euls, 1 abysals. Chip down their bkb duration ti 5 seconds then made a comback.

[@GhostStyle007]

Jenkins before: i'm starting a programming carrier can't handle DotaAlchemy anymore Jenkins after: Ending up doing even more content, more coaching and now online courses xDDD

[@randjan8592]

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[@benjapincheira3044]

so you don t like his content?

[@jojot607]

In a 2k mmr bracket, its hard to counter pick such heroes as a pos 4 and 5 because my team will demand us to first pick. So, it depends on luck to be able to counterpick the enemy with these carries mentioned.

[@lukeclanwalker]

Just subbed because of this video. I have never played Ranked, i always play single draft (to help fellow gamers escape penalty and to improve my skills) and believe it or not, the four heroes you mentioned mostly demolish my single draft experience. Thanks for this useful tip, and may the odds forever be in your favor kind Sir.

[@bknight3391]

Jenkins, I think the main thing you got wrong about that first sniper game is that at 2k, the pos 5 ogre will most often blame his team when he gets jumped by an axe while standing under T2 and dies. This is usually after they rushed midas and didn't skill bloodlust until lvl 9

[@abaddonthelordofavernus.4353]

You're a fan of being alive?!

[@joshuabinet3017]

Thanks, Jenkins for the video. Will definetly check you out on ProGuides. Can you do a part 2 covering a bit more about the laning stage of some other "broken heroes"? that'd be really helpful too.

[@KristophJeffers]

YES dude, loving stuff like this. How to counter nuisance heroes is such useful information because sometimes you get so wrapped up in what’s going on you lose your focus (just like how infamous spent 20 seconds trying to kill a clogged BB, but then remembered to just ignore him in subsequent fights).

[@Samarelitecsplaye]

As a Pos5 support, I have nightmares about riki

[@DrZaius3141]

As a Bane, I have nightmares for Riki.

[@ahmedkhalid7241]

It's all about positioning and itemizing. buy a force staff or a ghost scepter, and stick to ur position 3,2. Don't forget to smoke when you deward. Your carries can ward for you.

[@happy_thinking]

@@ahmedkhalid7241 The nightmares are mostly when you do everything right, but your cores are too stupid to push the advantage and or give needless kills to Riki. And the biggest problem is you don't have any space to farm as pos 5 especially if the opposing team had a good lane. P.S What this guy basically said is teamwork is the answer to countering every hero, but the biggest problem in any lower bracket is the lack of communication and teamwork. P.S I would say Riki is countered by magical burst and disables. (This is kinda true for all heroes, but it is more accurate for low hp agility heroes)

[@lunamoonfang2]

@@DrZaius3141 have a biscuit, sir.

[@comoestas288]

The sentries cost is killing me. Now u can counter riki with just neutral items

[@Mirrale]

I find the Lycan strat (which I think applies to Alch too) is the hardest to do in pubs because it's so hard to coordinate your team. It requires convincing them to interrupt their own farmingto inhibit his, but everyone thinks when they just get more dmg items themselves they're unstoppable.

[@markperalta4831]

I'm immortal 700 in SEA. And I thought it's pretty much common sense to focus on the hero who does the most damage or the hero who is the easiest to pick off. Strength in numbers is my motto.

[@AevenSong]

And then Echo Slam happened

[@svindal9029]

There is no common sense in lower brackets i play in, especially in itemization xd

[@grahhamratonel3656]

Honestly sniper is like the most broken hero in 3-4k people doesnt know how to jump him. And really its so frustrating.

[@lonnelomongos7159]

In SEA, even 2k knows which hero to target except they suck in game objectives, mostly just wants farm and kills and wants the game to be longer.

[@harshsawant4936]

@@lonnelomongos7159 TBH it's true. They want those kill streaks and KDA instead of taking towers and barracks, that's why those rat hero's like lycan, lone druid and nature's prophet win a losing game.

[@pentaly]

@@harshsawant4936 it just happened in my game, when lone druid with aghs taking barracks and my team still hunting for a single lion kill.

[@roronoazoro-lh1jz]

@@lonnelomongos7159 dota is not about winning its all about kill not even assist just kill its fps game in sea and i used to be one of them don't know how many domaniting game i threw away or like my first alchemist game where i didn't know alchemist farms so fast i was too much reach that i feed 2 rapier per 5 minutes

[@KidTrigger]

Grahham Ratonel no sniper is not broken in 3-4k you literally just ward enemy jungle smoke gank him reply so In fights even you don’t jump it won’t matter cuz he won’t have farm the actual broken heroes in 3-4k is no one. There literally is no current broken heroes the best heroes but they aren’t broken are Chen oracle, beast master , and lone Druid. Sniper is only good against drow ranger and medusa if you pick any other core against him you destroy him in his jungle or if it’s sniper support which will probably be picked early you pick spectre and bat rider and it’s automatic win

[@nothinphasesme5573]

Breeding an eating? My man's is living his best life

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i believe its breathing

[@alcimist]

He didnt have sex, did he?

[@del10artem]

Dude, he plays DOTA. He's definitely not breeding.

[@Sumosh27]

Thx for the tips Jenkins!

[@pumakam]

Something I would also like to say even just after watching the sniper part, the same goes for drow. I see so many people in my bracket just ignore the drow as she just marksmanships everyone to death. Also the biggest way to counter annoying picks? Pick stuns and lockdown.

[@trucci9108]

4:28 i wonder why observer is in low ground and sentry in high ground

[@calebfudrums]

thanks speed. I was so frustrated at snipers I was gonna sit out the patch. u save lives

[@borissukoi564]

i dont always watch dota stuff on youtube but when i do i watch jenkins. Keep keeping it real Jenkins!!

[@shinratensei187]

WOW ITACHI

[@poetryofcinema6957]

Great one mate!

[@jere8282]

Very good teacha Jenkins! Ty!

[@andreaswormanholmgaard1737]

Very nice, been itching my head about how to deal with lycan.

[@danny395]

Need more videos from Jenkins!

[@zakbermudez5389]

Yours are by far the best dota 2 educational videos out there

[@JohnnysaidWhat]

This is so true about sniper. When your team jumps on the front liners when sniper is there backline just right clicking, it's so sad and obvious...but they do it again and again.

[@TruePower44]

1:44 I'm like - Oh no no no I know where this leads to. *PepeLaugh*

[@UserJWR]

For Lycan you can also pick a hero that keeps up with him. Last time I played vs Lycan, one of my friends played WR and just pressed R and Windrun while running behind him. Get a Javelin and you wreck this hero. Even funnier when his ult is down and he literally has no move speed without boots.

[@cm3462]

awesome, a new Jenkins vid!

[@joeliamsocool7361]

Love your videos man. keep it up!

[@rokudoshinichee6279]

1:58 THE OGRE ,make me laugh so hard Jenkins. But thanks for making it fun for me to learn.

[@h3llhamza]

I love your videos man

[@erenyeager378]

great content as always

[@anarchyexe]

Thanks so much dude!

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

Actually in that first line-up, if their team wasn't getting stomped so hard, the CM could still get a Blink Dagger or a Force Staff and also jump the Sniper. Freeze him in place, throw an ult, that's a lot of damage. Add in a Glimmer Cape so he can't damage you back or stop your ult with his, and he's going to soak a lot of damage. But you can't do that if your team is feeding 16 kills in 20 minutes.

[@onemore512]

The main issue with fighting Sniper is not jumping him in the fight, it's that it is extremely difficult to siege HG at a crucial stage when he's around even when you are 5 vs 4. One bad siege and the game turned against you.

[@kadalkobong2800]

nice vid man! really struggle with these heroes in animal brackets TT

[@FogellofDot]

man, something about the heat and the musk of the cabana just rears me up for picking sniper.

[@Jenkins69]

LMAO

[@vasilhristov2659]

Me : Makes battlefury on riki to farm jungle Everyone that watched this video : visible frustration

[@greatestgrasshopper9210]

I hate when my team doesn't focus the sniper, but when I play, I get wrecked

[@kerbull708]

I have to say your contents are different and that makes it great contents.. huge fan here!

[@ivanmandelman1209]

Great video sir!

[@jakeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

That ad on the last bit was smoooothhh

[@icecrown7324]

Jenkins man you're the best guide he doesn't make video untill it's worth watching

[@veetheatheist]

Like so much your content, man. Best.

[@hakimiazian8348]

dude thank you so much for your content.. Now i can play peacefully Love your content

[@brunoamicone9733]

Liked when I heard of your yoga classes

[@altansener9015]

monkey was also going radiance in the clip, helps vs lycan a bit , shiva's guard is very good too due to lycan and his units having low attack speed and how attack speed scales, you pointed out crimson guard already.

[@sjfas_]

"He wants to get jumped! Ogre doesn't do anything, but get jumped. Like this is his dream!"

[@Insul1n_]

Yo Jenkins! Long time viewer here - I gotta be honest, the intro alone got me to subscribe real talk

[@namelesshappyending]

Nice video! I think u should put lone druid too

[@katakureen]

You deserve more subscribers Jenkins!

[@PressRToZeus]

thanks for being alive!

[@MustafaBirsoz]

Thanks Jen

[@cowpoke3702]

The most useful video i ever seen, thanks alot.

[@safd930]

Jenkins, those intros are radical! Keep it up man.

[@greedisbad9890]

Dude that first example with sniper is like dying of hunger in locked convenience store

[@hikikomorij1229]

Hey jenkins can u do a video on countering lone druid?

[@vinodvagadurgi414]

Loved the BB kite genius and intelligent

[@Buschnaga]

great video jenkins

[@vinaykumar-ew8hh]

nice video ,it was helpful

[@renzespinosa2745]

Nice video, but can you tell us how to properly lane with the heroes you mentioned?

[@LaughingSeraphim]

Defend and push are things as well. Good strategic tools. Miss the old lycan scepter tbh.

[@chhristiansolis7685]

Nice content thank youuu

[@ramzieyamani3480]

this is a great video because we lower bracket need something like this please make more video about lower bracket yes jenkin make online guide please cause you able to explain something thats important and not just anylyzing a game and youre amazing at coaching

[@byfall6163]

8:20 the Jugg Ward just running in front of Bristle while he is disarmed is just adding insult to injury

[@zachbrackett5778]

My favorite sniper counter is CK mid. It works exceedingly well. Gets absolutely stomped in lane then as soon as you get manta you get to this point where he shows himself, you manta + reality rift and he's sitting at 25% hp and running the other way.

[@gabudovx6913]

Very useful!

[@radostintrendafilov]

Jenkins can you make a video about how to counter cheese picks like meepo, tinker, broodmother, morph etc.

[@user-cs7kl7my1l]

You're the best educational dota youtuber! Wish you a lot of bepis!

[@ikhsan8489]

Bristles back counter methods will work only if you r team not hungry for kill. Especially in SEA server it's pretty hard to execute

[@arielnunez0612]

Probably the best sponsor plug I've seen ever

[@lemzpotutan2839]

Been a while since I played the game, but sniper, riki and bb (not so sure about lycan right now because of covid in was not able to play), i can assure you before starting the game when enemy picks this heroes (in 2-3k bracket) most of your team will type gg already. And i hate those type of attitude and its so hard to do things simultaneously when your team is expecting a gg and your just a support even if your performing higher level because your not afraid of the enemy picks. They dont know how to deal with this hero especially when enemy picks AM 😂. Great content Jenkins 👍

[@allenmiles199]

Great video. I would have loved to see how to counter sniper in early landing stage though. Especially mid lane. But still, super informative and useful

[@stereotypical_patriot7250]

In SEA sniper is usually no problem, unless we forget about him. For example, played a game yesterday, my team: AM, Sniper, SK, Viper, and ES. Enemy team ignored the mid sniper for first 25-30 mins, because they wanted to hunt AM, who got destroyed most the game. Sniper used this time to get hero killing items instead of maelstrom, like you would usually see. By the 30 min mark when sniper started his rampage, enemy could do nothing. Even when they jumped on him, he had so much knockback from his attacks that they need whole team to get him. Even then we had es and sk ult. Ez game.

[@webmube]

Please make a video on possible ways to counter AM in the late game

[@alimaleki6316]

best dota content in youtube hands down

[@dragonmyballsz268]

That BB kite clip and rushing throne can only be done cuz Radiant has a ton of sustain (Jugg, Necro, Oracle). Else BB will just chips all their hp.

[@silverbird4770]

Can you do another video to show how you deal with techies?

[@davidk7439]

All this video makes me think about is Relax You're Fine being dead. I miss the Dealing With series, since it actually went into much more depth on countering pub stars.

[@xyrildanmanuel783]

really great video. explanations are so simple and interesting. i can even imagine that noobs can fully understand this.

[@oz9692]

1:57 you went from 0 to a 100 real quick XD

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Ngl selfishly you splitting with dots alchemy is great I get like twice the videos now or at least feels like it. Even when you gets make videos on the same thing it's always nice to see different perspectives, or even check if they're the same!

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Where do i sign up for yoga classes? im already on your special diet, the bepis one, and ready to do some yoga...

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bcs of youtube ,algo xD Btw I love ur videos and big respect for you mate ! Keep it up !

[@v3rsistance]

jenkins is more creative with intros for this videos than og with their drafts

[@DickVanDick89]

I'm a Riki spammer in the 2k-3k bracket and the only games I lose are the ones where people just run around in groups of 3 and wars the jungle entrances, when it happens I get flamed a lot and feels so bad

[@christophemouawad6971]

Great! Maybe you can do some videos with Speed.

[@richierifle2990]

"Your own personal fan gay since Pugna here" How do you deal with Ursa and Lycan as a support?

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focre staff goul scepter and glimmer cape

[@brunoamicone9733]

Pick Pugna support: nailed

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Shadow demon

[@KidTrigger]

Richie Rifle oracle or chen

[@Hustlermetalftw]

Pick bane get aether lens and cast range talent

[@MxdicG]

Can you do one on how to deal with a morphling? Thanks.

[@migspilot8503]

Yeah, some events have this, its weird, when theres literally a subreddit for this

[@thiccking8716]

Jenkins which boots are better for void spirit, phase boots or power treads?